Actually, I find talking to myself a lot more helpful than prayer. When I talk to myself, I can challenge my thought patterns and improve my way of dealing with things. Praying doesn't do that. At least, it never did for me, which is why I finally learnt to accept what I already knew: I don't believe in any gods, never really have.
yes. let the religiously deluded pray instead of using modern medicines and hospitals. We woukd save a fortune in health care costs. Prayer is ridiculous and I cannot believe that people can be so stupid as to believe it does.
There is a saying in my native language. "Thaan padhi, Daivam padhi. Which means you do your half and God does his. No God have said not to take medicines and just pray. When you encounter death in your family !! Say your father, mother or daughter are in the ICU near death and when human science fails to help you !!! Would you succumb to it and plan their funeral before pronounced dead, or would you let down your ego and sincerely pray for the one suffering and hope for some miracles !!!
@@davidregi7571 what does prayer even have to do with medicine !! Obviously I will take my loved ones to the hospital !! There is no question to that... But I am not going to throw a wrench at my religious belief either.
6 million dead in the holocaust spiro says god always had a purpose. People cant see how ridiculous that statement is? God always brings something good out of suffering he says. Another Christian said he wasn't sure if it was ivf or prayer that created his child. Surely he prayed for many years before without result.
It's actually quite easy, God responds with "yes", "no" and "wait", that is an optical illusion, cause with that kind of answers, God can never be wrong. If something happens "see? God responded" if something happens after a time "see? God responded, all you had to do was wait" if nothing happens "well, we need to trust that God knows better".
The more I watch these debates the more I realize that i never questioned my beliefs and that they are clearly wrong and immoral. Its disappointing to see how ignorant and heartless people of faith sound
If prayer worked, it would be demonstrated countless times, due to the trillions and trillions of prayers in history. Prayer has never been shown to work in the proper testing environment or scenario. The only prayers "answered" are done in situations, which cannot be verified, and the prayers are so vague that they praying enough is bound to leave to a "successful" prayer.
Does anyone else find it utterly disgusting that somebody prays endlessly to get better then dies and then some religious nut says that the lord works in mysterious ways. Then they have the nerve to say prayer works. It is pathetic.
Does Prayer Work? NO. Prayer does not work. If it did there would be no need to find solutions to problems. Just ask God or Jesus for something after you tell them how great they are and how much you love them and it will be given to you. Definition of Prayer: Talking to yourself. Second Definition: Wishful thinking.
Well put.... I always ask my self... Is there any difference between prayers and wishes????. Beggars then are a perfect example of nothing fails like prayers. Nothing fails like wishful thinking. If it did there would be no beggars on the streets.
Belief that Prayer works is the result of a fantastically successful religious indoctrination program set up by parents and teachers who are afraid to die, can't reason and refuse to admit they don't know. Children indoctrinating children into Bronze Age beliefs.
Yes it is like 6 year olds. Prayer does not work at all. I work with handicapped. Prayer does not help period. Ether there is no God or it can't do anything. I God knows what is exactly going to happen then there is no point of prayer. These people hear should admit this by now. Even when people believe God is blessing a nation it is people that made those changes and then believed they are blessed. No. People made those changes not an outside agency. I say no about the God. Empty promises. Love and help others if possible from atheist/agnostic Lee.
@@JamesRichardWiley Religion offers empty promises and hopes with no proof. Everytime something good happens it has always been people. The rest is like an empty sack. From atheist/agnostic Lee.
@@leegleissner9771 the reason why suffering exists while God exists is a topic the Bible deals with throughout. God is good, and the sense is that He has given us free will and we chose to live independently of God, which has been the root of such suffering. Pray works in a variety of ways, but we have to remember that if God of the Bible does exist, the main thing He is interested in is healing our hearts and bring is to fullness there, although it is clear He is interested in the physical world as well.
If prayer worked, there would be no starving children. When I was a teenager I prayed in Church that God would get rid of malaria. It has been calculated that more people have died from malaria than anything else. I am now 74 and still waiting for one simple little miracle.
Exactly. All the examples of the times prayer has allegedly worked are personal experiences and some allegedly miraculous occurences. The thing is though, given the amount of occurences, something lucky is bound to happen every now and then. Just a sprinkle of selection bias and gullibility and voilà, we have a "miracle". I don't remember who said this, but a quote goes: "A truly unusual day would be where nothing unusual happens."
Exactly! First speaker preached for ages without answering a single one of the questions he was asked: 'Does prayer work?/Does God answer prayer?, 'What are God's criteria for answering prayer?', 'Have you seen extraordinary results of prayer?', 'Why are some prayers not answered?' - and then he repeatedly interrupted and talked over every other person there. Infuriating!
God has a plan , he knows everything in the future and everything in the past .........He knows what is being thought in the present .........Prayer is only there coz he likes to hear you beg .......
Spiro speaks so well. God gives us freewill. This means we can choose to believe in prayer or not believe in prayer. However, anyone who doubts that prayer works should research into Lourdes. It is very difficult to get a miracle approved at Lourdes, and it requires a lot of hard scientific evidence. However the Media prefer to portray miracles as doubtful or random. The devil wants us to lose hope and to doubt. Scientifically prayer works but you are free to believe what you want!
Its very sad to say, God does not hear our prayers so naturally he isnt going to answer them!! Theres NO comfort in believing in a God who watches babies raped, beaten and murdered, or sees someone gasping for air til death over takes them, how can a Loving God watch these poor people starve to death when He has the power to help!! Im not angry😠 inside any more, Im disgusted😡 in all the years I spent at Church, praying for him to heal like his Word says, but NEVER seeing One person recover that wasnt on medication!!😢
I am amazed that people think that prayer is you getting what you want from God. "Oh, God please heal my dying sister,Amen." It is insane to even think you can do that and then when nothing happens thats your proof God is not real "See, I prayed and nothing" Give me a break! That is so manipulative its incredible. God if you heal my dying sister I will believe in you. That's scary how manipulative that is, , I hope you dont treat people that way. Dont buy into type of christianity that you find in the west that says "If you have great faith, you life will be great, you will be happy,healthy and wealthy" That is a straight up lie. Prayer is about you, a finite human being trying to develop a relationship with the all powerful God, it is not easy.
"When thou prayest, enter into thy closet and when thou hast shut the door, pray to the Father which is in secret and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly" said Jesus. So that's where I've been going wrong ! Praying in a group doesn't work !
@@alexbakerloo1979 Believing far-fetched events without evidence = delusion. If I believed I was Napoleon, I would be delusional. If people believe there is an invisible man in the sky, they are delusional.
@@MrJohndl invisible men in the sky does sound wired. But having a Creator as explanatory for existence of beauty, information and fine tuned design, amd creation ex nihilo, is not far fetched when one considers the alternative proposition. But yes, without evidence, don't believe anything. I'm only a Christian because of the evidence
@@alexbakerloo1979 There is no evidence. Who created the creator? The ''first cause'' argument you present has been debunked by philosophers for 2 thousand years.
@@MrJohndl there is evidence at a number of levels. Do you accept that first hand testimonies of a sexual abuse are admissible evidence? From a scientific point of view, therenis evidence at a cellular level, see "James Tour origin of life". No one created the creator, by definition He is uncreated. The first cause argument is evidence not proof
God has free will does he? So he cannot be omniscient then can he!!! You see, free will necessarily requires a period of indeterminacy, no matter how short and as god is supposedly omniscient, he never has a period of indeterminacy as he knows every about everything everywhere and at all times. Yet more religious absurdities
Matthew 7:7 “Ask, and it will be given to you seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you. Matthew @ And whatever you ask in prayer, you will receive, if you have faith.” Mark @ Therefore I tell you, whatever you ask in prayer, believe that you have received it, and it will be yours. John @-14 Whatever you ask in my name, this I will do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son. If you ask me anything in my name, I will do it According to the Templeton Foundation prayer study, prayer doesn't work, so god is lying, he makes promises he does not keep; he is unreliable
EXAMPLE; I shall pray for those who died in the Tornado, I bet those who died prayed the Tornado would go away; I guess fairy tales give ignorance relief; I pray gods followers would leave me alone, hasn't worked yet;
The most interesting speaker was the one we didn't get to hear because he got cut off. The American guy talking about a survey specifically looking at the effect of praying for other people. I know the survey he is talking about. People with serious illnesses who were told that other people were praying for them improved faster than those who were not aware they were being prayed for. There is no logical explanation for this. Perhaps being positive does have some sort of physical effect? I don't know.
If God existed and had this "divine plan", if you prayed for something that wasn't included in the plan, he wouldn't change his plan, but if what you asked for was in his plan it would happen anyways so what's the point of prayer?
If prayer actually worked then there would be no need to even get out of bed. All you have to do is pray away all your bills and problems. The first guy was delusional and clearly just making it up as he was speaking.
prayer is the best form of worship it shows submission Faith and the need for the Almighty Allah . Knowing that we are weak and helpless and Allah Almighty is the all powerful all knowing
If someone prays for an action of some sort that allows themselves or others to live longer....isn't that an attempt to prevent themselves or others from dying and going to the heavenly afterlife they expect? Getting into heaven is the ultimate goal for Christians. You'd think they would want to get there sooner.
Why doesn’t he (god) answer the prayers of those suffering horrible atrocities in which he has the power to intervene, but chooses to answer menial requests such as helping us to raise funds at a church car wash, or to win at a sporting competition?
The "Big Questions" show is one of the best in the world! because of this beautiful platform that brings people from different prospectives into a beautiful discussion. However, at the end of the day, we (simple knowledge people) look for something that can benefit us and not just listening to people with a closed minds and solid mindset, who just present thier views and rejects others firmly! I would suggest to choose people who have studied different religions, prospectives, field ... etc, and can present valuable thoughts which can make people enjoy the difference and get along with each other, by agreeing on what is common, logic and rational! I like this quote: "Faith without science is blind. And science without faith is lame!". Religion has to agree with science always, because religion urges people to learn. And science can be enriched and have beautiful meaning by understanding and explaining all the mysterious aspects of a religion. For example, instead of searching into whether prayers work or not, let us (both people of faith and atheist/scientists) study why prayers existed and what its impact on human health, psychology or any kind of changes that happens to body/brain cells during prayer, and let science disproof its influence on our bodies. This is just an example out of many can be thought of, which can bring people together in love and peace rather than rejecting each other. Peace out and love for all!
People ignore that the greatest answer to prayer is when God changes you to have a heart of love. I am in the process of experiencing this answer to prayer.
He wouldn't answer a single one of the questions he was asked: 'Does prayer work?/Does God answer prayer?, 'What are God's criteria for answering prayer?', 'Have you seen extraordinary results of prayer?', 'Why are some prayers not answered?' - and then he didn't fucking stop interrupting and talking over every other person there. Infuriating!
Trying to make the argument that a mere man cannot do everything that people ask him, and that's why god won't. Its amazing how god answers the prayers of those in these developed countries, but seems to let people die in developing countries. It's almost as if he doesn't car about them, or perhaps it has something to do with the medical care.
If prayers worked it would have been demonstrated without any doubt over a billion times, it clearly doesn't work - so this was yet another episode of kids versus rational grownups.
None, because God doesn't exist. There are only alleged answers in the form of lucky occurences or when the prayer was so vague and all-inclusive that anything could be interpreted to count as an answer.
Okay this gentleman says that in the Bible praying and praying heals and do all kinds of things all right let's just say for a second that he's right and science it's wrong... Okay let's just say for a second that his mother his father or his son or his daughter or any loved one close to him it's very ill sick or has a bad accident. it says in the Bible that if you have faith you can move mountains I am going to be fair with you Christians bring at least 9000 hundred billion people to pray for that loved one to get cure to get well.... I will take mine to medicine Science & let's see which one has more chance to survive.. I wonder if he's going to take a chance on praying for his loved one
Prayer works by giving psychological support. Group prayer helps by showing community assimilation. The source of prayer is in a few neurons of the right temporal lobe in the human brain. An area also associated with hallucinations.
Christians would have us believe that god has our lives mapped out in exact detail. If one ends up with a cancer that will claim ones life, then that is god’s plan for him to take you and be with him in heaven. If one is then prayed for and healed as a result, this sets up an interesting dichotomy. Either god is willing to change his plan based on prayer, which nullifies the original premise, or the prayer is useless and a recovery was planned in any event. Either way, I’m afraid this is all rubbish.
The man is mistaken. God has no free will. God (if he exists at all) is supposed to be all-knowing and all-mighty. Can god change the future as he has foreseen in his all-knowing ? No, because if he could, he has seen the future wrong and therefore is not all-knowing and therefore not god.. But if god cannot change the future he has foreseen, he is not all-mighty and therefore not god. So god is forever imprisoned in his all-knowing and all-might. Poor schlemiel.
I haven't prayed although my massive stroke, affluent right-side body, mutism and grammar sentences structures in my brain healed themselves. Why? Because, I work hard to strengthen my muscles. I work hard with my oral phonics. I work hard to strengthen my new neural pathways using neuroplasticity. Prayer does NOT work.
"Prayer never fails, the answer is always: YES, NO or LATER" - What an absolutely moronic sentence that is. Absolutely every outcome, no matter what can then be attributed to God without rebuttal. Yes - "See, it worked, God did it!" No - "God works in mysterious ways, it's all part of a greater plan" Later - "It cannot be counted on to act insantaneously, however at some stage it will be answered and you will see its benefits". What a ridiculous preposition to set up, one which cannot be proven by you nor argued against; a waste of time and in my opinion a dangerous position to hold if you are suggesting this to someone genuinly in need of help.
That first speaker just changes, twists and bends his prayer answers as he goes along to make it seem like god is actually doing something? NO FAIR WHEN YOU CAN JUST CHANGE YOUR GOD ANSWER PER QUESTION!!
We live in a world where 9 million children die every year before the age of 5. That's an Asian style tsunami, the likes of which we saw in 2004 that killed 250,000 people, every 10 days, only of children under 5. That's roughly 17 children per minute. This God either does not know about this suffering, which means he is not all knowing; or he can do nothing about this suffering, which makes him not omnipotent; or chooses to nothing about it, which makes him not all good. If this god is not all knowing, not omnipotent, and not all good, then why call him God? I'm certain, a vast majority of these children and their parents are praying for God to relieve them of this suffering, and receiving no answer. One thing I can't stand is people that pray before a meal. This implies that God chooses who will receive food, and who will not. When you look at the levels of starvation in the world, especially with regards to children who starving to death right now, prayer before meals just seems so arrogant and capricious.
God always answer prayers. Sometimes it's "Yes." But sometimes it's "No." And sometimes it's "Wait." He always answers "Yes" to prayers requesting for wisdom, salvation and forgiveness.
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It’s an absolute disgrace that our taxes go towards paying a police officer that tells to pray to reduce crime.
Perhaps they should race to a crime , get there and pray lol
When i feel depressed and feel like a failure i watch show like this!. Then i understand what a intelligent and broad-minded person i actually am.
Prayer fails. Why? Because it is nothing more then simply "TALKING TO YOURSELF."
Actually, I find talking to myself a lot more helpful than prayer. When I talk to myself, I can challenge my thought patterns and improve my way of dealing with things. Praying doesn't do that. At least, it never did for me, which is why I finally learnt to accept what I already knew: I don't believe in any gods, never really have.
You mean than, not then.
Whenever they get sick, I hope they don't go to a doctor. I hope they stay home, pray and let natural selection take its course.
How many amputees have had their prayers answered?
I believe there are some lizard species.
***** - so lizards pray? LOL
***** Yes, but to a Lizard god. Thats where we humans go wrong.
***** - I'm not praying to a lizard God. Have you seen the size of their churches?
Have you considered Amphibians, they are often seen as a watered down version of Reptiles, but their sermons have an engaging dry humour.
Why even go to hospital if you believe in prayer?
yes. let the religiously deluded pray instead of using modern medicines and hospitals. We woukd save a fortune in health care costs. Prayer is ridiculous and I cannot believe that people can be so stupid as to believe it does.
There is a saying in my native language. "Thaan padhi, Daivam padhi. Which means you do your half and God does his. No God have said not to take medicines and just pray.
When you encounter death in your family !! Say your father, mother or daughter are in the ICU near death and when human science fails to help you !!! Would you succumb to it and plan their funeral before pronounced dead, or would you let down your ego and sincerely pray for the one suffering and hope for some miracles !!!
@@JamesRichardWiley ///// You will be in a better place, but forget the 'Hebrew God'. God kills us all. There is no eternal hellfire.
@@sylargabrielsylar if your child was having s deadly disease, would you pray or let go of your ego and go to a hospital?
@@davidregi7571 what does prayer even have to do with medicine !! Obviously I will take my loved ones to the hospital !! There is no question to that... But I am not going to throw a wrench at my religious belief either.
6 million dead in the holocaust spiro says god always had a purpose. People cant see how ridiculous that statement is? God always brings something good out of suffering he says. Another Christian said he wasn't sure if it was ivf or prayer that created his child. Surely he prayed for many years before without result.
It's actually quite easy, God responds with "yes", "no" and "wait", that is an optical illusion, cause with that kind of answers, God can never be wrong. If something happens "see? God responded" if something happens after a time "see? God responded, all you had to do was wait" if nothing happens "well, we need to trust that God knows better".
The more I watch these debates the more I realize that i never questioned my beliefs and that they are clearly wrong and immoral. Its disappointing to see how ignorant and heartless people of faith sound
Like George Carlin said If you changed from praying to god to praying to Joe Pesci you would get the same results.
If prayer worked, it would be demonstrated countless times, due to the trillions and trillions of prayers in history. Prayer has never been shown to work in the proper testing environment or scenario. The only prayers "answered" are done in situations, which cannot be verified, and the prayers are so vague that they praying enough is bound to leave to a "successful" prayer.
WELL SAID MY FRIEND!! WHY DO THESE PEOPLE LIE TO THEMSELVES!!
Does anyone else find it utterly disgusting that somebody prays endlessly to get better then dies and then some religious nut says that the lord works in mysterious ways. Then they have the nerve to say prayer works. It is pathetic.
Have you considered God has a wry sense of humor?😁
Jeff///// Death is 'getting better'. The afterlife is wonderful.
Hence why society calls them religious nuts ;)
Everybody dies, so your argument is non sequitur.
@@alexbakerloo1979 Everyone dies but everyone wants to live.
Does Prayer Work?
NO. Prayer does not work. If it did there would be no need to find solutions to problems. Just ask God or Jesus for something after you tell them how great they are and how much you love them and it will be given to you.
Definition of Prayer: Talking to yourself.
Second Definition: Wishful thinking.
Don't forget Zeus bro.
Well put.... I always ask my self... Is there any difference between prayers and wishes????. Beggars then are a perfect example of nothing fails like prayers. Nothing fails like wishful thinking. If it did there would be no beggars on the streets.
Free will, the biggest get out of jail free card ever.
Has it ever been proven tho? I mean If the past and the present are reality why wouldn’t the future be?
@@shroomer8294 yet another non-answer
Nothing fails like prayer.
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The guy who talked about prayer at the start of this clip is so deluded.
The policeman needs to arrest him for sure!
@@ThurstonWhore1 😂😂😂
He is in the business of religion, puts beans on his table.
The whole world of religion is deluded
That childish style of thinking..so sad.
it's like listening to 6 year olds.
Belief that Prayer works is the result of a fantastically successful religious indoctrination program set up by parents and teachers who are afraid to die, can't reason and refuse to admit they don't know.
Children indoctrinating children into Bronze Age beliefs.
@@JamesRichardWiley Abso-bloody-exactly
Yes it is like 6 year olds. Prayer does not work at all. I work with handicapped. Prayer does not help period. Ether there is no God or it can't do anything. I God knows what is exactly going to happen then there is no point of prayer. These people hear should admit this by now. Even when people believe God is blessing a nation it is people that made those changes and then believed they are blessed. No. People made those changes not an outside agency. I say no about the God. Empty promises. Love and help others if possible from atheist/agnostic Lee.
@@JamesRichardWiley Religion offers empty promises and hopes with no proof. Everytime something good happens it has always been people. The rest is like an empty sack. From atheist/agnostic Lee.
@@leegleissner9771 the reason why suffering exists while God exists is a topic the Bible deals with throughout. God is good, and the sense is that He has given us free will and we chose to live independently of God, which has been the root of such suffering. Pray works in a variety of ways, but we have to remember that if God of the Bible does exist, the main thing He is interested in is healing our hearts and bring is to fullness there, although it is clear He is interested in the physical world as well.
Whether the Devil tempts us to gamble or God inspires us to pray, both defer to Lady Luck
Prayer always works!
Except when God works in mysterious ways.
Why bother praying when God have plan already?
and you know this how? and who are you to fuck up god plan - he spent a lot of time on it
See George Carlin
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Because His plan involves us.
If prayer work no child would suffer.
If prayer worked, there would be no starving children.
When I was a teenager I prayed in Church that God would get rid of malaria.
It has been calculated that more people have died from malaria than anything else.
I am now 74 and still waiting for one simple little miracle.
Exactly. All the examples of the times prayer has allegedly worked are personal experiences and some allegedly miraculous occurences. The thing is though, given the amount of occurences, something lucky is bound to happen every now and then. Just a sprinkle of selection bias and gullibility and voilà, we have a "miracle". I don't remember who said this, but a quote goes: "A truly unusual day would be where nothing unusual happens."
All these people saying god will do x. I have to ask
How do you know?
It all sounds like pure BS pulled out of someones rear end.
That is exsctly what it is! 😊
I have some unpaid bills, I think I need some spiritual finacial aid..
I'm also in need for some spiritual spell checking.
Yes, yes, yes, God works in mysterious ways, we've heard it before and it is a lame apology.
It is every religious person's scapegoat from accepting and trying to answer the question. its bs!!
I am Muslim but l admit that praying is 100 percent useless
Prayer is as much hearing from God as it is speaking to Him.
If you're hearing religious delusions you should speak to a professional.
So why are you Muslim?
Then why are you a Muslim? I note you post was 6 years ago, maybe now you are no longer a Muslim.
HOST: Does prayer work?
FIRST SPEAKER: blah blah blah
Exactly! First speaker preached for ages without answering a single one of the questions he was asked: 'Does prayer work?/Does God answer prayer?, 'What are God's criteria for answering prayer?', 'Have you seen extraordinary results of prayer?', 'Why are some prayers not answered?' - and then he repeatedly interrupted and talked over every other person there. Infuriating!
If your choking would you rather I pray or perform the Heimlich?
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God has a plan , he knows everything in the future and everything in the past .........He knows what is being thought in the present .........Prayer is only there coz he likes to hear you beg .......
Prayer, confession, forgiveness all these only encourages a criminal to repeat his crimes again and again.
1:50 The Dutch have a saying for that: "Operatie geslaagd, patient overleden" which translates to "Surgery was successful, [but] patient died".
Where's hitchens when you need him
According to Hitchens, he simply ceased to exist. I suspect we can agree that he is not in heaven.
who thought a 15 min format was a good idea?? this discussion requires at least an hour
actually it does take about 2 seconds. "No"
Does Paprika give you the ability to fly?
Yes...
And Marjoram let's you swim under water without needing to breath.
That man's logic is a disgusting and harmful in the first 4 minutes.
Yes it is! very deluded like the majority of the religious. It is a form of mental illness.
Why?
It's nice that man was let out on day release, (with a police escort)
Spiro speaks so well. God gives us freewill. This means we can choose to believe in prayer or not believe in prayer. However, anyone who doubts that prayer works should research into Lourdes. It is very difficult to get a miracle approved at Lourdes, and it requires a lot of hard scientific evidence. However the Media prefer to portray miracles as doubtful or random. The devil wants us to lose hope and to doubt. Scientifically prayer works but you are free to believe what you want!
Its very sad to say, God does not hear our prayers so naturally he isnt going to answer them!! Theres NO comfort in believing in a God who watches babies raped, beaten and murdered, or sees someone gasping for air til death over takes them, how can a Loving God watch these poor people starve to death when He has the power to help!! Im not angry😠 inside any more, Im disgusted😡 in all the years I spent at Church, praying for him to heal like his Word says, but NEVER seeing One person recover that wasnt on medication!!😢
I am amazed that people think that prayer is you getting what you want from God. "Oh, God please heal my dying sister,Amen." It is insane to even think you can do that and then when nothing happens thats your proof God is not real "See, I prayed and nothing" Give me a break! That is so manipulative its incredible. God if you heal my dying sister I will believe in you. That's scary how manipulative that is, , I hope you dont treat people that way. Dont buy into type of christianity that you find in the west that says "If you have great faith, you life will be great, you will be happy,healthy and wealthy" That is a straight up lie. Prayer is about you, a finite human being trying to develop a relationship with the all powerful God, it is not easy.
"When thou prayest, enter into thy closet and when thou hast shut the door, pray to the Father which is in secret and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly" said Jesus.
So that's where I've been going wrong ! Praying in a group doesn't work !
his prayer to keep his hair clearly didnt work
Lol.
You deserve a second Lol. That was brilliant.
Prayer is akin to throwing a 20 pound note in the vague direction of a gambling machine and expecting the jackpot
That first guy looks like he finds miracles at the bottom of a bottle of whiskey each and every night.
Faith really is just a delusional state of mind.
Why?
@@alexbakerloo1979 Believing far-fetched events without evidence = delusion. If I believed I was Napoleon, I would be delusional. If people believe there is an invisible man in the sky, they are delusional.
@@MrJohndl invisible men in the sky does sound wired. But having a Creator as explanatory for existence of beauty, information and fine tuned design, amd creation ex nihilo, is not far fetched when one considers the alternative proposition. But yes, without evidence, don't believe anything. I'm only a Christian because of the evidence
@@alexbakerloo1979 There is no evidence. Who created the creator? The ''first cause'' argument you present has been debunked by philosophers for 2 thousand years.
@@MrJohndl there is evidence at a number of levels. Do you accept that first hand testimonies of a sexual abuse are admissible evidence? From a scientific point of view, therenis evidence at a cellular level, see "James Tour origin of life".
No one created the creator, by definition He is uncreated.
The first cause argument is evidence not proof
God has free will does he? So he cannot be omniscient then can he!!! You see, free will necessarily requires a period of indeterminacy, no matter how short and as god is supposedly omniscient, he never has a period of indeterminacy as he knows every about everything everywhere and at all times.
Yet more religious absurdities
Matthew 7:7 “Ask, and it will be given to you seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you.
Matthew @ And whatever you ask in prayer, you will receive, if you have faith.”
Mark @ Therefore I tell you, whatever you ask in prayer, believe that you have received it, and it will be yours.
John @-14 Whatever you ask in my name, this I will do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son. If you ask me anything in my name, I will do it
According to the Templeton Foundation prayer study, prayer doesn't work, so god is lying, he makes promises he does not keep; he is unreliable
i have no words to describe this discussion....are they nuts?
I don't like a moderator that takes side in a debate. He interrupts the Christian side and and countered their points.
I pray for this undiagnosed mental illness to end.
EXAMPLE; I shall pray for those who died in the Tornado,
I bet those who died prayed the Tornado would go away;
I guess fairy tales give ignorance relief;
I pray gods followers would leave me alone, hasn't worked yet;
How come God has never answered the prayer of an amputee to grow their arm or leg back?
God hates cripples
The most interesting speaker was the one we didn't get to hear because he got cut off. The American guy talking about a survey specifically looking at the effect of praying for other people. I know the survey he is talking about. People with serious illnesses who were told that other people were praying for them improved faster than those who were not aware they were being prayed for. There is no logical explanation for this. Perhaps being positive does have some sort of physical effect? I don't know.
If God existed and had this "divine plan", if you prayed for something that wasn't included in the plan, he wouldn't change his plan, but if what you asked for was in his plan it would happen anyways so what's the point of prayer?
If prayer actually worked then there would be no need to even get out of bed. All you have to do is pray away all your bills and problems. The first guy was delusional and clearly just making it up as he was speaking.
Every living beings pray daily, what does it mean,
prayer is the best form of worship it shows submission Faith and the need for the Almighty Allah . Knowing that we are weak and helpless and Allah Almighty is the all powerful all knowing
Why do you believe this?
You sound like know god that well, what does that make you?
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where are the cars? :)
If someone prays for an action of some sort that allows themselves or others to live longer....isn't that an attempt to prevent themselves or others from dying and going to the heavenly afterlife they expect? Getting into heaven is the ultimate goal for Christians. You'd think they would want to get there sooner.
after every episode with religion as the topic I think I get a little more dumb after listening to some of the people talk about god an religion wtf
Ask an amputee, prayer never works for them
Why doesn’t he (god) answer the prayers of those suffering horrible atrocities in which he has the power to intervene, but chooses to answer menial requests such as helping us to raise funds at a church car wash, or to win at a sporting competition?
The "Big Questions" show is one of the best in the world! because of this beautiful platform that brings people from different prospectives into a beautiful discussion. However, at the end of the day, we (simple knowledge people) look for something that can benefit us and not just listening to people with a closed minds and solid mindset, who just present thier views and rejects others firmly!
I would suggest to choose people who have studied different religions, prospectives, field ... etc, and can present valuable thoughts which can make people enjoy the difference and get along with each other, by agreeing on what is common, logic and rational!
I like this quote: "Faith without science is blind. And science without faith is lame!". Religion has to agree with science always, because religion urges people to learn. And science can be enriched and have beautiful meaning by understanding and explaining all the mysterious aspects of a religion. For example, instead of searching into whether prayers work or not, let us (both people of faith and atheist/scientists) study why prayers existed and what its impact on human health, psychology or any kind of changes that happens to body/brain cells during prayer, and let science disproof its influence on our bodies. This is just an example out of many can be thought of, which can bring people together in love and peace rather than rejecting each other.
Peace out and love for all!
People ignore that the greatest answer to prayer is when God changes you to have a heart of love. I am in the process of experiencing this answer to prayer.
So something indistinguishable from personal inference?
2:49 talk about a tap dancer 🕺
He wouldn't answer a single one of the questions he was asked: 'Does prayer work?/Does God answer prayer?, 'What are God's criteria for answering prayer?', 'Have you seen extraordinary results of prayer?', 'Why are some prayers not answered?' - and then he didn't fucking stop interrupting and talking over every other person there. Infuriating!
Trying to make the argument that a mere man cannot do everything that people ask him, and that's why god won't.
Its amazing how god answers the prayers of those in these developed countries, but seems to let people die in developing countries. It's almost as if he doesn't car about them, or perhaps it has something to do with the medical care.
If prayers worked it would have been demonstrated without any doubt over a billion times, it clearly doesn't work - so this was yet another episode of kids versus rational grownups.
At least a trillion prayers a day, how many answered?
None, because God doesn't exist. There are only alleged answers in the form of lucky occurences or when the prayer was so vague and all-inclusive that anything could be interpreted to count as an answer.
Does prayer work? Easy answer: no.
It's your own body who is curing you, when ll start looking in?
COMING UP NEXT: do we pray to the milk gallon for answers
Okay this gentleman says that in the Bible praying and praying heals and do all kinds of things all right let's just say for a second that he's right and science it's wrong...
Okay let's just say for a second that his mother his father or his son or his daughter or any loved one close to him it's very ill sick or has a bad accident. it says in the Bible that if you have faith you can move mountains I am going to be fair with you Christians bring at least 9000 hundred billion people to pray for that loved one to get cure to get well.... I will take mine to medicine Science & let's see which one has more chance to survive.. I wonder if he's going to take a chance on praying for his loved one
It works , but only religious people know.
How are the healers doing now in the middle of the pandemic? Or is it God made therefore there's nothing they can do.....
No, but doctors do. And they're very good at their jobs.
NaN Atheistic doctors do not pray. Sowwy.
Its a wrong question? It presupposes that it has to be. God hasn't made that promise and neither prayer is needed for salvation. Its a choice.
Prayer works by giving psychological support. Group prayer helps by showing community assimilation. The source of prayer is in a few neurons of the right temporal lobe in the human brain. An area also associated with hallucinations.
Christians would have us believe that god has our lives mapped out in exact detail. If one ends up with a cancer that will claim ones life, then that is god’s plan for him to take you and be with him in heaven. If one is then prayed for and healed as a result, this sets up an interesting dichotomy. Either god is willing to change his plan based on prayer, which nullifies the original premise, or the prayer is useless and a recovery was planned in any event. Either way, I’m afraid this is all rubbish.
If prayer works, then we don't need the Police anymore.
Funny how god never really does anything that is testable.
Jeez Mickey, you get some awful prosletysers on this show!
The man is mistaken. God has no free will.
God (if he exists at all) is supposed to be all-knowing and all-mighty.
Can god change the future as he has foreseen in his all-knowing ?
No, because if he could, he has seen the future wrong and therefore is not all-knowing and therefore not god..
But if god cannot change the future he has foreseen, he is not all-mighty and therefore not god.
So god is forever imprisoned in his all-knowing and all-might.
Poor schlemiel.
"God has free will."
Yeah the free will to never ever provide any evidence that your prayer has been answered in any meaningful way.
I haven't prayed although my massive stroke, affluent right-side body, mutism and grammar sentences structures in my brain healed themselves. Why? Because, I work hard to strengthen my muscles. I work hard with my oral phonics. I work hard to strengthen my new neural pathways using neuroplasticity. Prayer does NOT work.
No. Next question
I can not understand how anyone can believe this first guys argument.
I wonder how their mind works,it’s beyond me.
No I still haven't won the lottery.
I pray all the time, and God answers my prayers.
Same. Njörðr answers my prayers all the time.
DeterminationForever.......ok........
I assume you only pray for the sun to rise each day.
Ms NYC Girl you must be praying out loud and God is the name of some guy
Not Important NO!
If a spiritual healer is ill, I think they've lost their right to our NHS.
Institutionalize begging.
6.19 have you ever heard of chance
Prayer never fails, the answer is always: YES, NO or LATER.
God has all angles covered!!!
"Prayer never fails, the answer is always: YES, NO or LATER" - What an absolutely moronic sentence that is. Absolutely every outcome, no matter what can then be attributed to God without rebuttal. Yes - "See, it worked, God did it!" No - "God works in mysterious ways, it's all part of a greater plan" Later - "It cannot be counted on to act insantaneously, however at some stage it will be answered and you will see its benefits".
What a ridiculous preposition to set up, one which cannot be proven by you nor argued against; a waste of time and in my opinion a dangerous position to hold if you are suggesting this to someone genuinly in need of help.
I had no idea that having an imaginary friend was a passport to impersonate police officers.
Now you do!!
Prayer is telling god that he got it wrong and how he should have done it.
That first speaker just changes, twists and bends his prayer answers as he goes along to make it seem like god is actually doing something? NO FAIR WHEN YOU CAN JUST CHANGE YOUR GOD ANSWER PER QUESTION!!
Does prayer work? My answer and thoughts are 🤣🤣🤣
We live in a world where 9 million children die every year before the age of 5. That's an Asian style tsunami, the likes of which we saw in 2004 that killed 250,000 people, every 10 days, only of children under 5. That's roughly 17 children per minute. This God either does not know about this suffering, which means he is not all knowing; or he can do nothing about this suffering, which makes him not omnipotent; or chooses to nothing about it, which makes him not all good. If this god is not all knowing, not omnipotent, and not all good, then why call him God? I'm certain, a vast majority of these children and their parents are praying for God to relieve them of this suffering, and receiving no answer. One thing I can't stand is people that pray before a meal. This implies that God chooses who will receive food, and who will not. When you look at the levels of starvation in the world, especially with regards to children who starving to death right now, prayer before meals just seems so arrogant and capricious.
Apparently prayer works sometimes and sometimes it doesn’t......funny that. So does luck and coincidence.
God always answer prayers. Sometimes it's "Yes." But sometimes it's "No." And sometimes it's "Wait." He always answers "Yes" to prayers requesting for wisdom, salvation and forgiveness.
That's the dumbest response. "Maybe, maybe not" There is no point.
@@ThatDamnPandaKai She’s lost. Can’t blame her really.
Praying is like wishing.
_No, prayer does not work._