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20mph in a housing estate with not one accident or fatality...come on...cash cow's...camera van parked on the otherside of a bend...its adaylight robbery...
Obviously haven't seen the speeds people do in our area. Even with speed pillows, they will be doing upto 40mph. In an area with kids in! Also the same ones complain (normally with two fingers) when I go between the speed pillows to avoid damage to my car. This is NOT illegal, especially if I'm at the speed pillow first and doing the limit.
Speed pillow?
@ANGLERSPARADISE91 yeah what's he going on about!!!! Wtf! 🫣🫣🫣
@@paulmcallister8948 dont even think he knows lol
Yep! Where I used to live, 30mph we had I think 6 cameras in the estate.
To my certain knowledge there had been no fatal accidents in 20 year.
Another road a few miles away, 60mph road, 3 or 4 fatals a year. No speed cameras there though.
Not safety cameras, revenue grabbers.
Always use your speed limiter and my car lets me know where they are 😂😂😂
Apart from learner drivers under instruction or on a test, I have never seen anyone stick to a 20mph limit!
I know, right.
I did the other week in wales residential area 20 mph loads of average speed cams youve got these houses from like the 1500s and these great big yellow eye sores i fucking hate cardif
I done 20mph with a police car behind me,he overtook and went up to about 50mph.2am in morning no blue lights, the law breaking the law.
Police don’t either was driving in central London the other day and police were doing 30mph when it’s strictly 20 no one follows the limit
You WILL get caught. The technology is coming to your area
and always remember, they will nearly ALWAYS be just around a bend, so the electronics can get u before you can react to seeing the van.
Finally….factual information and well presented.
I would have watched till the end but the continual waving of the hands done my head in!
haha, sorry!
@@MoneyNerdyes when you are watching the subtitles, thank you for the video🙏💯😀
Are there rules about what kind of weather camera vans operate in - eg temperature and rain
What if i am in xxx outside UK when i receive notice to ????
Just ignore the tickets they can't do anything they need your name for contract joinder I've ignored two they did write and say I had a wk to sign it otherwise court action still ignored them didn't hear from them again
I suggest the words ‘safe’ and ‘speed limit’ are not used in the same sentence. Here is why. I live on an estate where there are few footpaths, many turns and even more young children. The speed limit is 30 mph. At 3:00 am 30 mph is reasonable. When the kids are playing 15 mph might be excessive. Then, if you consider how a speed limit is made. Firstly, it is put in place by an unelected, unaccountable nobody in the council. They should consider the road width, number of carriage ways and lanes, lighting, junctions, proximity of houses, road camber, topology, geographical features, natural features, road surface, road furniture, safety provisions, traffic volume etc. Then vehicle characteristics and driver performance should be considered. And then they pull one of five numbers out of their arses, typically going for 10 or 20 mph less than similar roads used be before improvement 20 years ago. Now tell me about speed limits and safety.
If caught by a manned camera does the camera have to be calibrated at the end of that day.
Can you ask for proof that the camera was calibrated for and after that day.
Surely calibrated prior. Otherwise, it could be inaccurate at the time it's catching people.
No not calibrated, that is only done once a year by the importers. If it was done every time it was used it would invalidate the certificate when actually calibrated. The checks done daily are just confidence checks not calibration.
Is the person operating it qualified?
On motorway 🛣️ i was doing 72 i seem so late speed camera van will i get fine
I doubt it, most cars speedometers are not that accurate so you should be okay.
No people got tickets doing 79 or 80 mph. Anything below they’re mostly good.
No. Your speedometer runs a bit faster anyway..
No
Remember it 10% plus two mph.......so that is 79 mph to risk a ticket ......Speedos are not totally accurate, and even tire pressures can affect your speed.
Nice and helpful video - thanks. One of the things that I've been looking at is calibration certificates that speed cameras use, and I wonder is anyone had some ideas on the issue below.
I think that the handheld speed cameras need an annual calibration certificate and an addition calibration check at the start and end of a day, together with records of where the officer stands and what the weather conditions are - so that in effect two calibration certificates are needed, although the one done on the day is called something other than a calibration certificate.
The most common devices used in the UK are probably the handheld Trucam devices. One thing that confuses me though is could anyone explain why for Laser Tech UK, there appears to be a discrepancy between the Home Office calibration certificate requirements for the mobile Trucam speed camera devices and examples of the calibration certificates available online from different police forces?
My understanding was that there is guidance that set out some minimum requirements, which is similar in the newer and older Home Office guidance. An extract from the guidance says....
"In addition the following information shall appear on the calibration certificate:
i) the pulse repetition frequency or appropriate clock frequency shall be listed against the expected value;
.....
iv) a table of actual and corresponding measured range. If presented, the corresponding speed readings shall also be listed, or a statement verifying they were all 0 mph, given. "
So for point (i), sometimes only one value of pulse repetition or clock frequency appears on some Laser Tech calibration certificates (Dorset Police 21-0319) and it is not clear if that is actual measured or the nominal manufacturer value, whilst on others no value appears and they simply write "Pass" (Warwickshire Police 23-0698). Can anyone explain why this does not appear to be compliant with these minimum requirements as the expected and actual values need to be recorded for the pulse repetition frequency or appropriate clock frequency of the device , i.e. there should be two values of frequency on the certificate? Writing "Pass" is not writing a frequency value and writing one frequency value is not writing an expected value and an actual value for the unit. The word "against" clearly sets out that there should be two values doesn't it? If the values were only a very small amount out it could introduce significant errors in the speed measurement I guess.
For point (iv) it appears from the Home Office guidance that a table is required with actual and corresponding measured range values. Most Laser Tech Trucam calibration certificates seem to have only the actual range value column, which looks to be the ranges measured out on the ground with a measuring wheel or similar, with no indication of the speed camera measured range value or any error in that measurement. The guidance says that the actual distance value should be recorded with the measured value. This does not appear to have been done on the calibration certificates that you can find on the web - again, am I missing something? Instead, "Pass" is usually written in a column titled "0 mph" next to a column of fixed distances. Surely this is totally ambiguous and does not appear to be compliant with the minimum required information that should appear on the certificate. It would not be clear if the "0 mph" column was meant to indicate if the distance measurement was a "Pass" or the 0mph reading was a "Pass" at that distance - neither of which would appear to be compliant with the guidance in any case. I'd thought that the reason that the minimum requirements for calibration certificates are specified to be measured values, is as an extra safeguard, to give confidence that the annual calibration has actually been performed. So does anyone know how these LTI devices have calibration certificates that do not appear to have a calibration measurement of distance on the calibration certificate, that would indicate that the device had been properly calibrated for distance measurements in compliance with the guidance.
The second part of point (iv) says " If presented, the corresponding speed readings shall also be listed, or a statement verifying they were all 0 mph, given." - again, this does not appear to be what is done on the Laser Tech calibration certificates. Am I misunderstanding something else here ?
You can find lots of examples of calibration certificates on google searching "lti calibration certificate" - and there is some variability in the format and type and amount of quantitative information in them. Guidance on calibration certificates can be found googling "a guide to calibration requirements for traffic enforcement " - and whilst newer guidance has been released in the past couple of years, I though that the newer guidance still contained the requirements specified above.
Hi @stevedixon6230, thanks for the additional information!
20mph zone with green outer band
Hi, Can they even catch the motorist while moving?
Of course, that's when the speed reading is taken.
No, the range is not 1m, it is 1km and the kit records rolling video and does not take photographs.
I can exceed 20 MPH on a bicycle but am not required to have a speedometer on my bike, so, am I immune to speed limits.
A bicycle is not a motor vehicle.
Yes, and you have no number plate so they cannot identify you anyway.
Must a mobile speed camera be operated by a police officer or can a civilian do it?
Anybody tasked by an appropriate senior officer may operate a mobile speed camera.
Thanks for the input, Trevor!
What’s the difference between a police constable and officer? 😉
Boom.
@@Hrossey yes that needs to be answered by The Black Belt Barrister. 💯😀
@@HrosseyPolice Officer, Police Constable are one and the same. Mobile vans im led to believe are civilians.
and if he is a motorcyclist, he does not have numbers plate in front part,that means he will get away with no fine
really? I just got caught with one of these on a bike and wondering about this.
I've done that twice, there's usually some way of turning before going past the van
Or maybe don't be that idiot biker who decides roads are for your own enjoyment and other cars are just obstacle to weave through@@leahheffernan4644
@@IseeGwilydo speedy vans have cameras all around the van❓🤔🤔🤔
@@rogerjoesbury9410 I got no clue but I didn't get the ticket!
These mobile units are always located in a hidden location combined with a bend and just inside a restricted zone after leaving an unrestricted one. It's definitely a cash cow, but they seem to be always absent when an idiot insists on overtaking you and others at break neck speeds
It's called entrapment.
If everyone adhered to the speed limit then these camera vans would lose money and then they would be redundant. The vans at first glance look like refridgerateddelivery vans at first glance with the ventilation unit on the roof. I was done for 34 in a 30 on a deserted road by one of these hiding in a layby. Stick tothe speed limit and stay alert is the only way to avoid them
How many times have you been overtaken by a lunatic doing way over the speed limit and thought to yourself " they need to be banned doing that speed " .....Well these are the guys that do that , it means that the majority of us get home safely every night , while the lunatics are at the bus stop
Nah. Foreign on fake plates. Laughing at us and causing accidents. Only 10% are ever caught !
GET WAZE EVERYONE
What the speed camera tolerance work
Can you reword the question?
This guys hand movements is extreme and annoying
Agreed!
I suppose its just by chance that I've often encountered police checking speeds while the sun completely blinds the drivers ability to see them and while often on a downhill section.
Funny that.
Hi Jessica! that definitely sounds fishy. Thanks for sharing
"the sun blinds them" .... "on a downhill section" ...... TWO reasons in one sentence proving people dont THINK while driving .... allowing for, you know, the sun to be in your eyes and, whoah a hill, maybe apply brakes or lift off the gas before! If these are your "excuses" then yore not in full control of your vehicle and shouldnt drive, youre not ready
@@danhodge2337 captain obvious here
@@danhodge2337 speed cameras should not be at the bottom of any hill or dip in the road, it's unfair as it's very easy to drift over the speed limit. The cameras should be reserved for straight, wide, flat bits of road, otherwise the claim that it has nothing to do with money is laughable.
just pass my test 3weeks agao and get flash on a 30mp zone and I was doing 37 what will happen to me will I lost my license
Most likely a fixed penalty fine and 3 points on your license as a new driver in the first two years 6 points accumulated will get you a ban . So watch your speed
You only passed your test 3 weeks ago and you're already breaking the law by speeding?
You deserve to lose your licence. Stop trying to show off and being an immature knob. Did you not pay ANY attention to the driving lessons.? Grow up!
@@kestondaniel7737 did you get off for your fine buddy?
@@kestondaniel7737 or did you get free points?
You might be lucky. Most forces operate a 10% +2 mph meaning 35 and over will land you either a course or 3 points and a fine. Factor in your speedo will read high you may have only been doing 34 ish. Most forces will offer a course unless you’ve already had one.
Not true. Speeding fines can exceed £1000 on non motorway roads.
really informative i was driving a works van in a 40 and the speedo said 45 but google maps fluctuated between 40 and 43 bow likely am i to get a ticket from a parked van i do not speed and didnt realise speedo had gone over 40
Thanks for the comment. In this case it's really hard to know because it depends on the speed you were doing and the tolerance of the camera.
Google maps is updating your device based on pings in the area you're driving in, although a phone etc can be tracked very accurately, doing so on google maps while driving is a different matter, go onto your monthly google tracker to see where youve driven, it wont be exact, even if you go onto JustEat app theres an "exact location" button now, this combined with the fact yore travelling at 40mph means that by the time youve travelled 14.6 metres per second every second and the app is trying to update itself ....... with not exact locations at each attempt, then an "overall" picture is given via google maps, deffo NEVER rely on anything other than your own speedo
What happens when the police lie when prosecuting for speeding
They claimed i had not provided information when I had a letter from them anollinging that I had .
Show the letter to the court. It's your get out of jail free card.
Excellent vlog. Thank you
Hi @rogerchanning! Glad you enjoyed it!
It's the increase in insurance due to getting points that's the real cost 🤪
And no harm or damage done, another rip off.
Waves his hands like a Uni lecturer.
what i want to no is when does 10yrs or more driving experience without accidents prove your safe .sod the cops and there revenue collecting i for one wont pay or comply to there bs
Great video, very informative
Someone help me out with this question ?
Was driving and I had both sat nav and phone sat nav on my dash (lower right corner) while working and my phone sat nav glitched so I had to touch then screen for like a minute or just under so I was tapping the screen sorting it out only noticed the speed camera can when I was around 300 yards away 🤦🏽♂️ but I do know that you can legally have your phone on the whindscreen and they government do advise having a phone holder so idk if I’m done for…. ??? Thanks
You will be done for speed not handheld phone, if you are done.
Just put a bit of tape over your number plate 🤷♂️
Sorry, I'm deaf, and I didn't understand your signing
If they park on anyone’s private land make sure you all tell ‘em to get lost notifying them that they are trespassing
Is this camera works on wifi
No.
Tax collection. This bloke has to be a copper or hmrc
Of all the governments of the last 20 years we now have one which is likely to make max use of these cash generating tools !
There is an easy way to get out of a fine and points on your License.. 😂
In excess of 100mph = instant ban unless your names Katy Price or your a footballer or any other celebrity tosser 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬
Can’t keep your hands still very distracting.
haha, sorry about that!
We ain't BSL users, sign language
Pointless buying a Rambogeenee
Everyone knows its just a way of making money. If it was about safety you'd get an instant ban 1st time you got caught. The technology already exists to stop cars speeding electronically no matter how far the pedal is pressed. But that would lose a lot of income from speeding fines. Secretly the government want us to speed because its easy to prosecute drivers and make money out of it. Speed doesn't kill in itself. Accidents happen when other factors come into play, for instance a driver going along a motorway at 120mph would not be dangerous in any way until someone pulls into their lane without looking. Who's at fault there? I'd argue it was the one changing lanes without checking it was safe to do so but in this country the guy doing 120 would get most or all of the blame. If someone causes a crash then yes they should be charged if their driving was the cause, but to be heavily fined for speeding when nobody got affected by it I think is wrong. Not that it matters what me or anyone else says, motoring is fast becoming less of a pleasure sad but true
I've made it impossible for ANPR to read my plates. I can't legally tell you how but a google search will tell you how.
The video camera is not ANPR, if the eyes can see it so can a video camera.
Please remake this video with your hands in your pockets
Is this bloke doing sign language? 😂
If for one minute you think the police don’t employ sneaky tactics(hidden vehicles) then you are very naive my friend???
Keep your arms still ffs!!
haha, sorry!
the over use of your hand gestures detracts from your presentation!😶
What about the privilege not to incriminate yourself ?. Saunders vs UK
What about it?
@@Dean-t9g Errrrrr, thicko
This guy is talking legalese.
A criminal offence is not a criminal matter but a civil matter which requires consent.They always demand to know who was DRIVING.Driving is a terminology for reward or hire so you are therefore travelling in a personal conveyance!!
They can’t do anything lawfully if you don’t fill out the yellow contract form.
Under 1969 rice vs connelly case law nobody has to answer the questions of the police without it being a criminal matter.If they try to force you into submitting then they are committing a crime as they are coercing you into a contract under duress!!! And also its a violation of the modern slavery act!!!
I sent the yellow form back to them and stated i was excercising my right under the said act which overrules the criminal offence of not identifying the DRIVER of the said offence!!!
The police have no power of enforcement in law without consent.Teresa may stated in 2014 that we govern by consent.
These scumbags are terrorising motorists by extroting revenue from us and we have allowed them too hence why we are in such a bad state!!!!!
Consent cannot be withdrawn. Don't respond and you will simply be done for failure to furnish, 6 points, £500.
@ tell that to teresa may who stated that governments govern by consent.They can’t force you to admit liability.Legislation is civil procedure
Could do without all the crazy hand waving
But isn't telling them who was the driver at the time, incriminating and you aren't bound lawfully to disclose this information...🤔
Yes you are. Failure to nominate the driver is an offence.
Thanks for clarifying @sidwills!
An NIP is the form that the registered keeper of a vehicle will receive which asks them to provide the driver's details. It is an offence not to provide these details and failure to do so can be punishable by 6 points on your licence and a fine of up to £1000.
Your obligation is to confirm who was driving, not who could have been driving. If you are unable to identify one driver, unless you can prove that you have made diligent enquiries, you have committed the offence regardless of how many potential drivers you name.
Keep you hands still bloody distracting
Keep yer bloody hands still
Don't be rude the guy is trying to help.
Go read a book on body language and HOW humans communicate information, the brain interprets gestures as another form of speech, if you have an issue possibly a visit to the doctor to make sure everythings ok, "scientists observe the ability of infants as young as 18-months to use hand gestures as a predictor of later language abilities" direct quote from the neuroscience of speaking
Stop complaining, stick below the speed limit…duh