SECRETS ON SPEED CAMERA VANS FROM A REAL POLICEMAN - what can they really do?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 ม.ค. 2021
- In today’s video - The police spill secrets on speed camera vans - probably the most contentious issue we could look at!
Speed is right up there in the Fatal Five and we see collisions daily caused by inappropriate and excessive speed.
This video shows you inside the camera van and also how it’s not just ‘braking distance’ it’s ‘thinking distance’ that effects how quickly you can stop. The difference in distance travelled in your ‘thinking time’ between 30mph and 40mph is 15 feet or nearly 5 meters. That’s potentially the difference between hitting or not hitting a child!
Police forces differ on thresholds for speeding offences. Most forces will allow 10% plus ‘x’ mph that then takes into account discrepancies in speedometer readings etc.
Thresholds can however be changed at any time so do not rely on this and it differs between forces. 1mph over the speed limit is technically an offence.
However it’s not all about limits. Not driving to the conditions and inappropriate speed are huge contributory factors in RTCs. The limit is a limit, not a target.
It’s not about revenue it’s about safety. If the camera identifies no offences that’s great as it’s done its job.
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Of course it's a Karen catching people speeding...
And she loves her job too much
And they’ve tried to make her look like a Police officer when she’s not.
@@LickyDischarge yes, they’ve tried to trick people that she’s police by clearly indicating that she is not a police officer lmao.
@@SD-oi9gr did I miss something then?
@@LickyDischarge What difference does it make if she's a police officer or not?
The amount of people hitting the brakes when they see these revenue collectors is more dangerous than the speeding.
Speeding on fast roads isn’t much of a big deal tbh. It’s more dangerous when cars do less than 70 in the middle Lane or fast Lane. Idiots like that need to be getting done for dangerous driving
@@thegamingdimension8665 The problem is that car speedometers always underreport speed, so 99% of people will keep the needle on 70 whereas in reality they are actually going 60-65.
@@thegamingdimension8665 …..I bet more motorists slam on their brakes when Karen is outside the vehicle and they see that boat race.
@@Doug1885 You really find her that attractive?
@@thegamingdimension8665 No such thing as a fast lane. Technically, unless you're not allowed up to 70 (large lorries, caravans, trailers etc) you should be doing 70mph. Left lane for driving, all other lanes for over taking only
“Speed has never killed anyone. Suddenly coming to a stop, that’s what gets you.”
- Jeremy Clarkson
It is the severity of the sudden stop that is governed by the speed at the moment of impact.
Speed is everything.
@@unleashthedragonwithin2057 the sudden stop is governed by the object you collide with. A fence will slow you, a tree will stop you. Speed is very much not everything
@@pixlhound Not quite. Yes, what you collide with will influence deceleration and every collision will have uniquely relative conditions, but regardless of the what, where or how, impact speed sits at the core of resulting injury. The DfT Road Safety Web Publication No. 16 entitled 'Relationship between Speed and
Risk of Fatal Injury: Pedestrians and Car Occupants' is a great place to start.
Speed is unquestionably everything.
@Unleash The Dragon Within no, your explanation just proved that speed is unquestionably not everything. If it was, what you hit would have no bearing on the outcome. No matter if its a mattress or a mountain, if speed were the only factor hitting either at the same speed would cause the same injury... if that's the case, safety equipment is redundant as it provides nothing in the equation.
Speed may well be the largest contributing factor, but it demonstrably is not everything
@@pixlhound No, I clearly typed '...and every collision will have uniquely relative conditions...'. Your explanation just proved that speed is unquestionably everything. Was the mattress just lying on the carriageway or supported by metal framework?
What safety 'equipment' are you citing that pedestrians carry?
The faster you collide with something, the greater the level of inertia that requires dissipating, so the risk of injury increases exponentially with impact speed.
“ There not called camera vans, they’re RRVs, Revenue Raising Vehicles”.
dont speed and you wont pay
The police don't actually get the money, so it's obviously not about revenue for them
The police don't get the money. Your car has a speedometer, the roads are marked with the limit. What's your problem?
@@SkidM3rks Maybe not the revenue. But they'll have targets and boxes to tick.
This is way easier than solving real crime.
@@PenzancePete the problem is that when the police say they have limited resources and don't turn up the things like burglary. And then hanging around and trying to catch people doing 33 miles an hour is a disgrace. I am willing to bet during their entire afternoon of sitting in a van they don't actually witness an accident. They just collect money.
9:18 “it’s there for you to see” yet parks behind bushes or bottom of steep banks in blind spots . Never outside a school or a hospital
Why would she need to be near a hospital, are the patients tumbling out of bed and out the front doors and on to the carriageway?
@@unleashthedragonwithin2057 or because there’s quite a lot of elderly people that go to hospitals and if there’s a road near they might have to cross it.some might not be able to tell how fast someone is going in their car.Do you not have any common sense?
@@ihavenoname4851 It isn't a matter of common sense, it's a question of data - verifiable data. Old people do not walk miles to get to hospitals, such establishments provide transport and unless there are stats to support collisions, motor vehicle vs pedestrian, at or near hospitals, then there is no reason to provide enforcement. Exactly the same applies outside schools - it's the 500m radius around schools where kids cross unsupervised that the problems arise, NOT outside schools.
@@unleashthedragonwithin2057 did I say that they walk miles? I said if there was a road nearby. You’re also talking about the 500m outside schools. You do realise that a majority of schools are on a main road? If there was a van there people will take their speed into consideration because there’s always somebody that drives too fast.
@@ihavenoname4851 Well unless every elderly patient lives close to the hospital, which is highly implausible, then if they walk there, it would be miles.
Please provide verifiable evidence that the majority of schools are on main roads.
Please provide verifiable data that there is a recognised collision history outside schools.
it's amazing how reliable the sd cards are for speeding when they corrupt so many body cam recordings when they are in the wrong.
It's CF cards, not SD.
there are over 100 languages on this earth and you chose to speak straight facts
@@creamcheesenation Straight facts are the same whatever language they appear in.
@@unleashthedragonwithin2057 If you read my comment again you'll notice I was referring to 'straight facts' being it's own language. Class dismissed.
@@creamcheesenation Why have you added an apostrophe to 'its'? It isn't 'it is own language'?
It’s all about money not safety remember that
How so?
Karen is the sort of person that reminds the teacher about homework
9 times out of 10 they don’t put the signs up in my area....
I've never seen the signs up.and they always park on blind corners so once you see them it's to late and parking where the speed limits change.
@@stichupman literally from 60 to a 30 most people cross it j below 40 and get ticketsss
@@anwaaraslam723 That seems fair. You should be at the correct speed limit as you cross the Speed Limit threshold. So if you're speeding, and you get caught speeding, and then get a fine for your speeding, do you think that's someone else fault or something?
@@Smithjw haha everytime you get in the car do you do checks on all your bulbs and tyres? Haha they sit there on purpose knowing that it’s the easiest way to get tickets, there’s no danger in what they’re doing, there’s normally no houses around or anything at that point. They just sit there racking in money from people slowing down slowly lol. The point of the police and speeding is to make the roads safer, but they do that just gain more money. Sit in the middle of the 30 zone or on the motorways if you want to. But most the time it’s at the change in speed limit lol yes it’s still illegal if that’s what your pointing out? Otherwise yes they wouldn’t be getting the ticket.
@@anwaaraslam723 well, yes, don't you? Would you seriously drive off with broken headlight bulbs and flat tyres?
I mean, the vans are bright yellow, and the speed limit signs are not a secret code. If you get caught you can't claim you were tricked somehow so why be so mad?
They never put signs up 🤣they just sit behind bushes & on bends waiting to catch people out 🤦🏽♂️
Don't speed past bushes or on bends then 🙃
If they haven't put a sign out, I'm fairly sure the signage on street furniture covers it anyway.
Don’t speed and you won’ get caught. It’s not hard!
@@Ben-db5re Why thank you for that pearl of wisdom captain obvious!
@@Ben-db5re ok grandma
True, i got speeding at 134mph lol
It's amazing all this technology available to make money but if your house gets broken into all you get is a crime number. This makes me feel very safe.
Had one of these vans following me the other day on the way to its next stop. I was doing about 40 in a 30 and it was up my backside the whole way nudging me to go faster. Honestly you couldn’t make it up.
Complete hypocrites they are. In the dark keep your full beams on as much as possible so you see these highway robbers.
Perks of the job! When she not working her mukkas text her to tell her what times they'll be about.
@@johnflavin1602 The high beams won't stop you getting a ticket if you are speeding. The laser gets you from the front and the camera on the roof gets you on the way past. The only thing high beams are going to do is piss off anyone else coming the other way.
@@zyonchaos1818 what are you talking about? High beams will help you see the hidden speed vans. I didn't say keep high beams on when cars are coming against you.
@@johnflavin1602 doesn't matter if you see them though as they clocked your speed about 300 metres earlier lol
When he was waiting for the first car round the corner I half expected a popping and banging ST at 80 mph
Yh I was expecting him to come drifting around fast and furious style because obviously drifting makes you go faster
11 mph. look out vin diesel. your gunna be out of a job
@@devilscousin4643 Not very fast and the copper was furious 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂
I wish
That is just too slow🫤🙂
Maybe if they stopped wasting as much money on those vans and wasting an officers time sitting in them they could spend more money and officers time finding the thieves that broke in to 4 of my vans last year as well as stealing 1 entire van. Not so much as a phone call from them on any of the crimes......I’m sure someone doing 80 on an empty motorway is far more serious.
The operators sitting in the vans are Police Staff, not officers.
@@williammitchell1267 still a waste of funding
Don't be silly they don't make any money catching criminals or finding your property they just think fuck you chore you have insurance claim on it
The use of ANPR (which this van has) is powerful in stopping the larger criminals and known thieves. Criminals have to travel so the more they can be tracked on their location, these “flagged” vehicles will be stopped, searched and wanted suspects arrested. Remember Jack the Ripper was caught because of his number plate, it’s a useful tool. Unfortunately the only way we can get more police on the streets is to increase our council tax, but we’d all moan about that too.
ANPR is great on travelling police vehicles which are ready to act. By chance we drove by our stolen van on the motorway (with a new number plate 8 hours after going missing). When the thief recognised another van with the same sign writing they erratically pulled off the motorway, down a slip road, smashed in to 2 cars, drove off and was never seen again and we never heard a thing back on it after reporting all this as it was happening. Surely a white Mercedes sprinter with a red Nissan micra registration plate travelling down one of the biggest motorways in Britain should have been picked up by a fixed ANPR camera? No because they don’t spend money on them or policing them because they won’t make as much money as mobile speed camera vans. The mobile speeding camera vans and the operators in them will have a huge set up and running cost which is mainly spent as the vans make money. Real officers fighting real crime is what we need. Can those vans detect a drink driver weaving all over the road doing 50 on the motorway in an old banger that just scraped through its MOT. No. Can actual police cars with actual officers driving around the roads looking for all forms of crime. Yes. The money being spent on the mobile speed vans is purely profit driven.
I'm a compliance officer working for a local authority. The council have a policy around the use of council vehicles that all drivers are responsible for upholding all the road rules. The vehicles are monitored for speed, acceleration/ braking, and cornering and we get a weekly report regarding our driving behaviour.
Some of my colleagues have complained that they can't drive to the road rules, particularly around speed, and I'm like, we are compliance officers, how can we expect to enforce others if we can't comply ourselves.
I’ve been in a police car with a police officer driving, he was giving me a lift over to another police station where I was to give a statement regarding something I had witnessed a week earlier. He floored it all the way, the speed limit was 30. I asked him about how fast he was driving and he said he is allowed to drive at the speed! 😂
They aren’t allowed no matter what. Unless those blue lights are on for an emergency. Your case doesn’t sound like it was.
@@KING0SISQO You're wrong I'm afraid. Common misconception.
NO warning equipment has to be activated for trained police drivers to make use of exemptions. It's commonly stated by the public that the equipment has to be used but that isn't correct. It's down to the driver to justify and also to be accountable for their actions should they be asked to account for their actions in a court of law.
Many of the public are also wrong on the "Can't use them unless going to an emergency"... the actual rule is "making use of warning equipment or exemptions FOR a policing purpose"... doesn't have to be an emergency call.
If they were trying to discreetly catch up to a vehicle that had been reported stolen up ahead, say in an unmarked car, blaring a siren and flashing blue lights gives the game away completely and the driver of said stolen car might then take off, starting a dangerous pursuit when it's not necessary. On the other hand if an unmarked car with no lights activated and no siren overtakes a car or two it's less noticeable and less obvious.
CASH MACHINES
Hence why I've never had a speeding ticket?
Only for fools.
Since when has the gov never tried to turn us all into ATM’s? Its like another tax this lol
Karen really likes to use the word ‘Basically’ rather a lot.
It is for those that like to speed
I've never seen a sign up near a speed camera van.
You can definitely fight it in court and you'd probably win if you have evidence, such as dash cam footage etc.
Generally when they don't set out signs they are already on a road that has speed cameras sign posted. As it's already sign posted they won't need to
There is no requirement whatsoever for warning signs at or near mobile speed camera sites. You cannot fight it in court.
@@hgg219 There is no need for camera warning signs, so your advice is pretty rubbish I’m afraid.
TJ P If you use dash cam footage the you are just giving more proof that you were speeding lol
So long as it is advertised that they will or might be doing speed checks on a stretch of road in the media be it internet or news paper it is legal most have a camera sign on the stretch of roads any rate meaning it's legal and don't forget don't speed can't complain otherwise. Yes I do speed
Fully agree withbyour comments. I'm an ex traffic cop (retired) from back in the day when we stopped people and spoke to them..... Its a blatant misuse of public funds to use these camera vans. People want real policing back....
It’s not paid for by public funds, mobile speed enforcement is self funded via a % of the fee for the speed awareness course so without it the money wouldn’t exist.
I agree, if they want to educate, then drivers should be stopped and spoken to, not fined and banned. Police are just government enforcers sadly.
I never knew about the camera on the top to catch bikes. Clever! I wonder if Karen zapped me on the A38. My laser detector went off. Luckily I wasn't speeding. And fair play to Devon & Cornwall police for getting involved and running through the kit - as well as the useful lecture at the end on thinking distances.
The roof mounted camera was originally mounted on the inside of the windscreen, or they just looked out of the window and wrote down the VRM.
@@NoBody-gf8ie A good pair of pre-focused binoculars and they can forget luck.
I always imagine the person inside as a little troll laughing when they catch me 🥱
Wouldn't it be better just to stop dreaming about imaginary creatures whilst driving and focus on driving safely and within the posted threshold?
..and what do you know, turns out you were right ...
@@unleashthedragonwithin2057 listen dreaming an driving’s better than drink driving🙄
@@R_RPerformance If either results in a collision, neither is acceptable.
@@unleashthedragonwithin2057 your so boring, why you still here?
After a hard days work catching criminals Karen likes to go home to her cold flat to enjoy a microwave dinner for one with her 16 cats for company
@@deancoleman3059 I'm sorry to hear that bro :)
@@deancoleman3059 love the fella comment, doesn’t excuse what your Mrs does!
@@deancoleman3059 lol 🤣
And frig off to police interceptors
@@deancoleman3059 what? Your married to a royal marine?
Don't talk rubbish, royal marine hahaha 🤣 royal flush more like
Only thing worse than a Karen is Karen’s bloke lecturing me on how to drive my car ! Have a day off mate 👍🏾
The above is a lecture no-one forced you to watch. Why did you not simply turn it off?
Calm down Karen 🤦🏾♂️
@@4eyes239 There is nothing in what Karen said that indicates anything compromised her emotional composure.
Thank you for this video, much appreciated!
The best cash cow on earth .
Arse holes who speed are the cash cows! Just how it should be :-)
@@Chief-Instructor you’ve never speeded in Your life, eh Luke.
Second to the police
I'd say that tobacco is the best cash cow on the planet.
@@unleashthedragonwithin2057 no way...cant beat speed cameras
Meanwhile in a street not far away, criminal's are busy releaving citizens of their belongings 😡 It amazes me how Police Force's are always "short staffed" 😖
The female above is a member of police staff and cannot deal with theft. The traffic officer deals with traffic offences and not street theft, that would be beat or response officers.
Meanwhile on TH-cam comments people are busy typing misinformed nonsense.
Unleash The Dragon Within yes. And whilst i have no excuse for being caught speeding on the M5 on a bright sunny day at 1300, what on earth has that do with safety priority? Safest roads are motorways, but two camera vans and one police car sat on bridges. Meanwhile speeders in built up areas. Police are interested in revenue and making tik tok videos. Must be a fulfilling job :)
@@davidm793 Police have no interest in revenue - every single penny goes into The Treasury. Speeding fines equate to around £100m a year (non-Covid years that is), however the national debt currently stands at more than £2,004 billion, so more than £2 trillion. No-one is interested in the pocket change generated by speed cameras.
Unleash The Dragon Within as maybe.... but sitting on the M5 on a sunny afternoon with three vehicles wasn't exactly protecting the most vulnerable people on the roads (towns, villages). Yes i was speeding, and i was penalised , but ridiculous that they sit on a motorway in perfect conditions
In another street, also not far away, there's a prick in a Fiesta, who's only deterent against driving like a maniac and potentially plowing through other cars and pedestrians, is the threat of being caught by the Police Force. That smack on the back of your head, is your circular argument making it's return trip.
As motorists we all know we shouldn't exceed the given speed limit yet we also ALL know that these camera vans are also set up deliberately at non accident spots, where the speed limit should have been raised by the powers that be but wasn't because its a nice little earner.. I wonder how Karen actually feels when she is helping this scam?
Can you explain why you want people to die at locations that have a recognised speeding before action is taken to tackle the problem?
Speed limit is not for safety. The most dangerous drivers on the motorway are often driving below 70mph and in the middle lane!
Although I haven't been in and driven in the UK for 20 years now, moved to Thailand, I found this video very informative and fascinating.
This is why everyone uses Waze. Imagine that being your job 😂
@Aorus PC RiG Tard
Does waze let you know about temporary speed cameras as well?
Fizzy Purple people report them when they are sat there. Every time I’ve come across one of these speed cameras I’ve known about it well in advance.
@@LetsHaveALuke same here, that app has literally saved me so many times
Until people have to take regular eyesight tests and a practical driving test every 10 years accidents will not decrease ffs its not rocjet science
Does the camera have a slot that takes all major credit cards?
😂😂😂😂
No, you're confusing them with the toilets and emergency exits on Ryanair aircraft 😂
@@glenjarnold and my Mrs 😯
Police don't take any of the money, the fines go to The Treasury via Conditional Offer Unit and course fees are paid direct to the course provider. A card slot would be pointless.
@@unleashthedragonwithin2057 So it's like money laundering then....................
The issue with speed control is that it is taking your mind off controlling the car and observing the driving environment. When a speed camera van is seen the first thing I do is check my speed. How long does it take? Rather than having police vans maybe a better system would be to have tech built into the car to warn of overspeed or control the throttle/brake to stop you going over speed. Sat navs can do the audible warning but it needs to be upto date. Road works are difficult and the average speed assessment types are a night mare. So it makes me annoyed to have a police Sargent say no one else is to blame but you. I bet you have gone above 33 mph many times mr Sargent.
Very informative, thank you!
Basically karen basically sits on a basically modified seat, with a basically speed camera that basically measures speed and basically catching speeding motorists basically. Basically this is a basic idea which basically picks up on the basics basically rendering the basic camera system basically noting speed and basically identifying drivers, basically. 🤦♂️
Basically it's down to basics basically
“Interesting, interesting.”
“Amazing!”
“Wow!”
“Out of interest”
“Interesting”
How funny was the part where he asked if she had a vast knowledge about cameras, she basically said no, then he says “awesome, sounds exciting!” - is this video is a giant fucking spoof or something 🤣
She speaks 'officialese' with a strong 'jobsworth' accent.
@@OmniDubStep 7
Absolutely
Between these and average speed cameras surely Safety goes out the window and accidents go through the roof as drivers focus more on their speedometer than the road ahead. Driving somewhere you don't know nowadays is like juggling 5 balls looking out for what speed you should be doing at any given time, trying to decipher the road ahead, traffic lights, crossings, bus lanes, cameras etc. I used to enjoy driving but now they have killed all enjoyment and replaced it with stress and anxiety for people just trying to be sensible and earn a living
As a driver your focus is the road ahead and that's where the posted threshold will be. Why would you need to keep looking out any differently than simply doing what you'd be doing anyway?
Mobile speed enforcement has been out there for a couple of decades, nothing has changed.
@@unleashthedragonwithin2057 he's right, limits are up n down constantly which takes up more of your concentration.
@@tomf4547 Posted thresholds are just signs and part of the ever changing vista in front of a moving vehicle. Why would they require 'more' concentration?
@@unleashthedragonwithin2057 obviously I can't judge my speed down to 1mph between cameras and I refuse to sit at 40 hr on end so I'm monitoring the speed more than I'm monitoring miss daisy as she changes lanes without looking
@@tomf4547 If limits change continuously as you stated, when would you get the opportunity to 'sit at 40 hr on end'?
If you are driving from York to Scarborough you’ll see at least one of these on each leg of the journey. Beware!
Then only use arms to get there.
Nicely done and well articulated to the viewers. Well done lads. Just needed a degrading comment about Georges ST from Owen lol
Speed doesn't kill, its coming to an abrupt stop that gets you. 😂
@@user-ec3gj1lw9z No, you confuse the cause of a collision with the cause of death - impact speed is most certainly the factor in a crash that determines the level of physical trauma, varying factors not withstanding. The faster you hit something, the more inertia there is that has to be dissipated.
Of course, not every collision is the same, combined with the design and build of the relevant vehicles, hence the reason why some walk away, whilst others leave on their back in a bag, or in several bags.
Up 80mph plus 80mph equals a killing speed of 160mph in a head on, only the undertaker will be laughing
As a biker I will pull a wheelie from now on ,thank you Karen x
Mate exactly what I was thinking 😂😂
For a whole kilometer matey? 😅🤣
As a biker I thought the easiest way was to stretch your leg back and put your foot over the number plate so they can't read it...
couldnt you just stop before you pass the camera, cover the plate and walk it out of view? ive always thought about if that would work
When I'm out riding and I see one of the vans I always flip them the middle finger.
Good video. That was really interesting. 👍
Can't afford to send an Officer out to investigate a reported crime, but one is able to sit all day in a very expensively equipped van, usually in a remote spot, raising revenue.
The mobile camera operators a trained police staff so regular officers are free for more important duties, and the van and equipment cost the police nothing as it's self funded, they are no put in places to make money they are put in places where there is a problem with speeding.
If the police don't attend a minor crime immediately it's not because they can't afford its because they're massively under staffed.
Money making exercise.
Motorists = easy pickings.
Always has been, always will be.
Currently rivalled by dishing out tickets to middle aged women drinking coffee on park benches. These are the real heroes.
@@djb7302 Good one !!
Oh do grow up. What a load of uninformed tosh.
You know how you can stop them from making a penny?
So don't speed... Can't "steal" your money if you don't break the law..
Speed does kill my mate took 2 ounce in 1 night & died 😁
Legend
I mean sorry for your loss
LoL
should of tried something a bit slower like Ibogaine
i can hear him in Heaven laughing at your grammar
Was doddling along around 80ish and saw one of these cash machines! No traffic in-front and clear road. High performance vehicle and was on eco cruise control. Lets wait and see now!
Keep up the good work 🇬🇧👍🤗😁 brilliant job
Yeah I understand that speeding kills but you can’t judge someone else’s thinking time based on your own opinion. A lot of people that drive at a faster speed watch the cars wayyyyy ahead of them to ensure they have a better reaction time.
Its that difference in speed. If you got fast reactions you're going to stop quicker at 70 but still have the same reaction time if you're driving at 90 so the difference is still the same
@Phuket Wurd your reaction time doesn't change regardless if you've got good reactions or not. If its the same person drive both at 70 and at 90 you'll still get a gap
In my experience the vast majority don’t. Speeding isn’t synonymous with good driving and often (probably more frequently) it’s the opposite.
The point I think being made in the video is that reaction times are the same irrespective of speed, meaning that a faster car will travel more distance before the reacting driver starts to apply the brakes. He’s correct of course.
@Phuket Wurd nope clearly not
Speed doesn't kill. It's stopping quickly.
It's white is there for you to see. That's why we hide them on bends and behind bushes etc. etc. Karen
Hide them on bends?
@Sosso Mund Who do? Evidence please.
@Sosso Mund Proof they are doing it? The clip is thirteen years old and was an operation intended to catch specific habitual motorcyclists on a certain stretch of carriageway.
@Sosso Mund You misunderstand, you stated 'Thanks for that proof they are doing it!' based upon an old clip. Yes, they resorted to extreme measures to catch specific offenders, there is nothing to suggest that this is common practice today, if it were here in the UK, it would be easily located on the internet.
One cannot prove that which doesn't exist.
@Sosso Mund Evidence please (although I have no clue what '..in Matlock also sometime back a biker put a video on here of a plain gold speed camera van in Deryshire' - means?).
I feel so much safer living in England knowing there is all this time and money invested in these machines. I feel so glad these police officers aren’t investigating murders and thefts. Good job guys, you are so great, aren’t you?
Your car odometer will read 30mph, the actual true speed of the vehicle will be 27mph. The camera van will also give you a percentage of tolerance over the limit.
So if you stay within the odometer limit you are significantly below a speed at which you can be prosecuted. Don’t speed. Don’t give your hard earned money away.
Waze is your friend to notify where these are... but obviously don’t speed!
But that relies on people using their phone to report that
@@jordan4541 no it doesn’t. CarPlay....
Whats waze? does it detect mobile units
@@phillkirby a navigation app that is updated live by community, so worth having, you can mark on the map anything like objects/potholes/police/accident etc and so can anyone else using the app and it shows up for a fair amount of time so you can rely on it for everything. Definitely worth getting especially as it’s free too
google bought Waze and that functionality is in google maps too now.
You didn't ask the number one question, How Do You Sleep At Night?
Mostly on my back, sometimes on my right side. You?
Anything but control the speed of your car.
I'm an advanced driver of 42 years and I have to admit that I speed everyday and jump red lights (early of course) but I still think these guys do a great job. Most people who speed are shit drivers, have no observational road reading skills, drive shit cars and just put their foot down and hope for the best. When I go out to make a journey in my car I always walk around the car to check my tyres. If I approach the car from the front I always walk around the back of the car to make sure there is no obstacle or more importantly a person behind the car. If I pull away on the road I check behind by using my mirrors but I always look over my shoulder as mirrors have blind spots. I was surprised when I had advanced driving lessons and then took my advanced test that most of the stuff I learned was just basically common sense such as, don't drive too close, slow down when it's wet or dark or both, use brakes to slow down instead of gears as you can control the vehicle more easily and safely with brakes than gears and brakes are cheaper to renew than a clutch and so on. These guys do a necessary job in areas where residents are are worried about their kids being knocked down by speeding idiots who can't drive.
@@unleashthedragonwithin2057 You’re here as a defensive voice for police staff, and what a fucking brilliant advertisement for the force you are;
Picking fights online, trying to trigger people, being cocky as fuck and instigating arguments. You’re one of those who thrive off the hate.
Bit sad, no?
And with a username like that...?
Probably a filthy rogue cop, claiming to be morally superior.
There’s a reason this comment section is 80% hate and you’re helping fan the flame.
To be fair, the Police aren’t forcing anyone to speed and everyone behind a wheel knows the rules of the road. I’ll confess to speeding occasionally but when I do I know I can’t complain if I get caught.
It’s important the speed limits are policed and there are consequences for exceeding them. Otherwise even more people than already do would drive way above their capability level and/or demonstrate poor judgement.
I often see police vehicles going faster than the speed limit without any blue lights on so a shame the law doest apply the same to all of us.
Oh thank you PC Pickle next time I'm traveling at 20mph I'll check myself.. Thanks nanny state!!!
When I got caught speeding the van was in a farmers field on a bend totally hidden, 30mph limit doing 36mph (got the picture) road conditions, dry road empty of all human and animal life, from that day on I always refer the police as the Revenue collection agency (RCA) well rules are rules and I broke one but the speeding awareness course afterwards which was conducted by 2 ex police officers left me with the impression that I and others were funding their lucrative life styles.
You were adding to their monthly income, but ultimately it was a choice you made.
I know some who was nicked two mph over thirty coming out of a village. He was accelerating toward the higher speed limit . He assured me he was under 30 mph through the village. He had to undertake a speed awareness course and lost valuable wages toward mortgage and family costs . They are revenue raising plain and simple. Cars are safer now than ever before . No wonder people suddenly don't see serious crime or help the police . The working man pays for everything and yet the bone idle and lazy prosper .
@@johnniethepom2905 right in every respect.
@@johnniethepom2905 You know someone who claimed to have got a notice for 2mph over - they were however just embellishing the story. Constabularies who are National Scheme members who offer the course option must observe the same criteria to maintain continuity across the country.
None have ever issued a notice for 2mph over. None. Ever.
@@unleashthedragonwithin2057 I'll message him to confirm tomorrow ( due to time difference ) and double check .
Why is everything interesting, awesome and super exciting???
You sound like a year 10 interviewing his nan for a school project
He literally fucking speaks like he’s trying to reach a word count.
and says "guys", meaning perhaps those watching his video after every second sentence. Bloody irritating!
When I once diagnosed charging problems (alternator) on vehicles, I would ask the driver if the charging light was on full or half brilliance (can help diagnosis) I was amazed at how many drivers told me that they do not know, because they never looked at the dashboard. This admission led me to believe that they probably were also not monitoring their road speed.
This also gave me an insight as to why past vehicles, that ''had'' a temperature gauge, had overheated and in some cases, caused engine damage. The same thing applies for the low oil warning light. Regularly checking ones instrument panel can save a driver expense not only on possible engine damage, but also that costly letter from H.M.C. Traffic Division.
How do they know when they were low on fuel if they never looked at the gauge?
Just a quick question... does the front camera record the speed or does it just track the reg... as I was coming towards the front end of the speed van but it's camera was at the back ?? So wondering has the van caught my speed from the front camera ?.
Same situation here 😢
Did you get caught in the end?
Police talk absolute rubbish regarding the speeding breaking distance! High powered & newer cars have bigger brakes .the old cars use to have drum brakes the new cars have disc brakes some are steal disc brake some are ceramic. The speeding laws are simply there to make money out of you!
The money doesn't all go to the Police though 🤦
That may be so,but on this video he was demonstrating the thinking distance not the braking distance ie the average distance you go between seeing a hazard,processing that information and start to brake, not the braking distance.You have to add the braking distance to the thinking distance.
Also all speed limits brake distance etc where based on cars of the time the 70 mph limit is because the car used in the test could not go any faster without scarying the driver at the time not some scientific research
@Josh Ryder You act like distracted drivers dont kill going legal speeds. MOST people who are speeding are safer because they are actually concentrating on the road. Meanwhile Karen swerving in her lane at 70mph and being totally unaware of her surroundings because shes talking/dealing with her kids or being on the phone etc... Majority of accidents on the autobahn where people regularly go at 150-180mph+ on a daily basis are mainly crashes caused by inexperienced drivers unnecessarily entering the inside lane, and people falling asleep. Crashes that are caused by the speeding it self are minimal to NONE.
As a sidenote, people speeding in residential areas are the problem, not speeding on the motorways and carriage ways that are flat, and straight...
He video shows distance traveled while thinking and processing what you are seeing,, no amount of expensive gadgets will make your brain/eyes/feet work quicker
Imagine all the middle fingers they see per day
Why?
@@unleashthedragonwithin2057 : Because it’s never, ever about ‘road safety’, but always about maximum revenue collection.
@@frazerguest2864 Police don't see a penny from fines collected - what is the incentive?
@@unleashthedragonwithin2057 : Correct, but ‘Road Safety Partnerships’ do, and yes, they do have targets to meet.
@@frazerguest2864 No, every fine payment is sent to the Conditional Offer Unit at Southend and then on to The Treasury's Consolidated Fund. Not a penny is seen or given to police.
assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/648328/FOI2017-13509_-_Revenue_collected_in_fines_and_penalties_from_driving_offences.pdf
Please provide verifiable evidence of targets. This is the internet and such information will be easily and readily accessible.
Hi there I was working there and spoke to you guys very nice guys great speaking to you 👍
Speed doesn't kill, Its how quickly you come to a stop that kills!
No, it's the severity of the sudden stop which is governed by the impact speed.
So if I stop before I get to the van and push my bike backwards they’ll never know who I was?
Obviously but if they want to they can try looking at other cameras on the highways such as ANPRs to try finding your reg and then you’d risk getting done for trying to not get caught
Can't do you from other cameras they aren't Mi5 😅👌 it's a myth you drive past you get caught you see window open you immediately turn 90 or get back on yourself I've never once had van troubles and I ride a stunted f4i everywhere 😅🤫🤟👌
@@speeddemon8786 I’m in rural North Norfolk, so I’m hoping that would be unlikely. But I guess you never know.
Or don't have a plate in the first place. 👀
How far would you push your bike backwards on the A38?
He was right, speed doesn't kill...suddenly becoming stationary, that's what gets you.
Yes I am quoting Clarkson here but he's right :')
It's actually the severity of the sudden stop that determines the level of physical trauma, so the speed immediately prior to the impact is everything.
It's a bit like jumping out of a plane without a parachute, it's not the fall that will kill you but the sudden stop at the bottom lol
@@zyonchaos1818 No, it's hitting the ground at 150mph that kills you.
@@unleashthedragonwithin2057 twice you have failed to grasp the humour in comments, well done you!
@@zyonchaos1818 If you have to explain something is funny, then Michael McIntyre needn't be worried.
Aslong as we are not driving dangerous or weaving in and out of traffic just let us enjoy driving jesus christ, speed limit everywhere is also 20mph now it's abit of a joke this country
normally agree with everything said on here, but having been caught by one of these only a little over the speed limit on the motorway, downhill, no signs, nothing on the gps, still got a bit of a hatred of these
No signs? There's no requirement for warning signs. No-one even suggested there is.
The reason they have a forward facing camera now is so no one pinches their front number plate and puts it on their car and then keep driving past the camera van over the speed limit lol
🤣🤣🤣 Omg I'd love to do that.
someone did that, I remember it being talked about on top gear.
Yeah I remember hearing about that one. 😂
Firstly, I haven't been done by the plod for speeding, but why do a lot of them sit on major dual carriageways or M-Ways doing people on what are the safest roads. The dual A64, the A3, M74 - the list goes on. And if its about safety why not put a fixed camera there?
possibly because of the chaos closing a dual carriageway/motorway causes. M8 was closed for 12 hours both east & west bound after somebody died in the crash.
A64 Malton Bypass. They are on the Bridge over the road. Motor bikes after Scarborough road races is a fantastic time for them. ££££££££££££££££££. It pays for a new camera in a day.
Driving around in the UK on NL numberplates, I just shrug my shoulders whenever the camera goes off 😂😂
I just wondered, that if you are driving by a sat nav, I have noticed that a sat nav will show you are driving at 30 mph when the car speedometer indicates about 33 mph, so which is correct and does the police camera verify this?
The camera will simply provide the vehicle's speed rounded down to the nearest whole number. If your vehicle is on a gradient, your sat-nav will not provide an accurate reading.
what are the rules for officers hiding behind a bush wish gun pointing down the road?
why are they always usually placed after blind corners too?
There are no rules.
They just say the only rule is for the public to be doing the speed limit they can check the public however they like. One of the tabloids caught them getting people from a horsebox on the side of the road once in Sussex I think or Wales can't remember, all legal, sneeky, but all legal
@@bonkeydollocks1879 Yes, all legal, they can operate covertly and with no warnings.
@@unleashthedragonwithin2057 if there are no rules how come so many celebs get away with it?
@@bonkeydollocks1879 thanks.
Love these type of videos - know thy enemy and all that.
Get after them Motorists the easy option easy prey we now have a police force and system that is entirely motivated buy road users and Motorists the easy option and easy prey..
Brilliant. Thanks
Did he introduce them as "The Devil in Cornwall Police"?
Only inappropriate speed kills. Any police driver will tell you , you don’t spontaneously combust when you hit 150 mph 😇
88 and you time travel! LOL
@@kevinwyatt9771 Well that's great, can go to the pub then!
You would if you were driving my car :)
I think my car would though 🤣🤣
Is the speed accurately measured if the vehicle is not travelling directly towards the camera ie moving around a corner.
The thing i hate the most is when the Camera Van is parked half on the pavement meaning you have to walk around it in the road. If that was a normal driver - they would get done for it.
I have seen this locally near a primary school , watching a woman with a pushchair and two kids having to step out from behind it into the road - all whilst the van is trying to catch people speeding past the school.
Any supporting evidence?
Karen the tax collector - could never morally do this job or a parking inspector - just not right. We all speed sometimes but often drop back down to the right speed when we notice it. Most people who are caught are people who have never knowingly sped in the past. If we constantly look at the speedo we would constantly have a collision.
Wonder if Karen has ever gone over 30mph in a built up area?
@@jezstokes8592 .....and the rest
@Amber Hammilton , if you find that checking your speedo regularly is so distracting perhaps you shouldn’t be driving .
@@kennethhume8628 So you you rarely check the speedo?
Amber Hammilton If you ever had to attend an RTA where a child was killed or seriously injured by a speeding vehicle there's just a possibility you might develop a more mature attitude.
Nice one George, great series. I'd like to see these "community concerns" for the A30 Cornwall Services, they must get lots of concerned members of the public in this great hiding location under the bridge 😂🤷♂️
Hahaha. Not sure I’ve been there.
The kit has a range that allows speeds to be measured the instant a vehicle comes in to view. This means that the enforcement position has no bearing on anything - you've been targeted long before you've had the opportunity to move your foot from the throttle to the brake.
"Community Concerns", my Arse.
@IDazI Your vehicle's speed would be measured if it was considered your were over the set threshold. No-one mentioned or suggested otherwise.
@IDazI Show me someone who says they have NEVER driven over the speed limit, and I’ll show you a liar. Even these pigs will have gone over the speed limit at some point in their miserable lives.
Police love lawbreakers, keeps them in work, gives them purpose. Police would be defunded if crimes stopped being committed. Sociologists agree crime is useful to society. If speeding is so bad, why aren’t cars limited to 70...?
Like Harry Metcalfe always says: "I am very sorry officer, it's not me, it's the car, it's a total maniac!"
It really is fair to be honest, as a biker I’m aware I do speed, nothing mental ( I long since hung up my ‘power ranger’ suit ) but if I’m caught it’s on me. I’d rather have these visible and posted vans then a more stealthy approach.
So to conclude you can floor it when you are 20metres from the van 🤣
19 just to be on the safe side 👍🏻
he thought that was 90mph when it was about 20, typical copper.
You really think they can do 90 in that short space on gravel? 😂 you really are dumb
@@EnglishDrifts69GTxRED I may be dumb but at least I understand the concept of sarcasm.
my partner and son were walking past tescos on Newbold Road Chesterfield and they noticed a load of nails had been dropped in the road, luckily (or so they thought) they spotted a police van further down on the opposite side of the road so went to report it, this van turned out to be a mobile camera van, and when they reported nails being on the road they were told by the people in the van that they were aware of it and they ignored the report carried on trying to catch motorists, making the lie that what they are doing is for public safety.
I have gained 9 points over last two years due to high pressure job delivering medication to hospitals and patients at private addresses, 3 more and i'm out of a job. Thanks Police.
"Thanks police"?? Were they controlling your car?? I'm afraid you only have yourself to blame.
Did you opt for the course instead of points, or were you just to fast to meet the criteria?
@@unleashthedragonwithin2057 couldnt do the course as i had done one before i got the 9 points. And no my speeds were'nt ridiculous, just under pressure with job and sneaky mobile speed cameras. Just have to be careful now.
@@deannelson1388 maybe if you'd been careful in the first place you wouldn't have 9 points!
@@NoBody-gf8ie yeah ur right there buddy, but its made me a better driver i believe, thanks for ur input.
near Stoke on Trent a speed camera van was caught speeding by the police it was going over 70 miles per hour on a dual carriageway which is illegal for a van as they are limited to 60mph
😂Brilliant! That's made mage my day 😂
/not/ if its a 'car derived van' ie a pug partner is an 806/807 chassis
@@lezbriddon no it's to do with Max weight I believe is 2.6 ton
@@gingernutpreacher class 4 ie cars etc are up-to 3.5t. vans under 3.5 can also be class 4 but still 60mph restricted unless it's a van made from a car. 2 classes, van and car derived van. A lot of people are really caught out by this silly grey area and it should be stopped.
@@lezbriddon I'm sure I read something that says anything I've 2.6ton is not considered car derived
It's not speeding that kills.. suddenly becoming stationary from speed is what gets you
No, it's the speed just prior to that sudden stop that determines the level of physical trauma and damage. So impact speed is a fundamental component of a collision.
@@unleashthedragonwithin2057 He never said it wasn’t. He said it’s the act of going from speed to a complete stop is what kills you, which is correct.
@@unleashthedragonwithin2057 Speed doesnt kill if you stay in control. Accidents on the autobahn are minimal yet people are zooming there 180mph on a daily basis. UK road structure is fucking trash and people cant drive because education is minimal. Thats the issue not speed...
@@waifuracer6516 agreed - it’s poor driving that kills.
Travelled 277 miles from Essex to Blackpool the other night.
Felt like 99% of that trip was on motorway sections with variable and average speed limits. So in the 4.5 hours it took me to get home, late at night on clear roads I was subject to ridiculous limits of 40 or 50mph!
Im now waiting for a potential letter to arrive informing me how many points I have.
These pointless limits were up and down like a yoyo and totally frustrating, as were the rolling Road blocks (lorries overtaking lorries both at 60mph).
This isn't about safety, it's about the gov making car journeys difficult maybe under the pretence of emissions!
I think I was just caught today, driving around the speed limit all day, stopped for a red light and decided to have a bit of fun and floor it for a few seconds, went past a corner and saw a bloody speed camera van facing me, obviously I slammed on the brakes, but I heard that once you have seen them, they already have your speed recorded. I know I was going fast, but I have no idea how fast as I only looked at the speedo when I had slowed down. Been driving 8 years and no offences so I'm literally praying I only get a speed awareness course. 🤞
@@rowan6207 Not yet unfortunately, my xbox always asks or updates, so I know it hasn't done it automatically.
Hiii what they give you if they caught you for first time
Surely it’s a bit pointless saying that the van is painted in bright colours when they measure your speed instantly when you pop into view a kilometre away, before you even have chance to react?
At the end of the day if you break the speed limit it’s a risk that you take that you get caught, but a van can hardly be seen as a deterrent if they use that kilometre range to ambush people as they come around corners.
I guess maybe the idea of telling people 1km is so that they act as a deterrent for the whole time the van is in view. I think it depends on the copper how quickly they snap you when u come into view. I’ve come across lots of these vans speeding and managed to slow down enough all but two of the times, so I reckon they must give some leeway..
@@ciaranoloan6199 They don't go much into technique in this video, but typically they aim the laser at the point a car comes into view, to be able to take a reading instantly.
If you can see the van, it's already too late.
They do not work on motorcycles from 1km, bikes have to be 500-600 metres to get an accurate reading by which time any observant biker would have seen these revenue makers ! 😁
That's why it's a rrv
Very interesting video. Thanks for the insight. I find that using the cruise control in my car illiminates chance of speeding. It's saved me a couple of times as if I wasn't using it I'm sure my speed would've drifted up Infront of a camera van
Eliminates correct spelling.
My father in law worked in the Police in traffic, his opinion was “cash making machine” on speed vans.
I’ll agree.
I've seen a van driver backup right against the camera hole, get out, and walk away before.
Not only stopping the camera from functioning, but also boxing the van in :D
That's an offence, with a maximum punishment of 51 weeks in prison.
Do they feel happy in their jobs I wonder, with 95% of their role being about revenue raising. Apparently due to lock down their revenue is severely down. What a shame.
Going to be honest, id love that job.
Piece of piss, warm and dry and good pay.
@@SuPrAmAd101 Good pay? How much are they paid?
@@unleashthedragonwithin2057 enough for sitting in an air-conditioned van with their feet up haha. They will be salary based so no idea, i expect 24-28k + pension
@@SuPrAmAd101 Air conditioned - evidence please? How is the above any different or special to someone working in an office like countless other roles that provide the salary option?
@@unleashthedragonwithin2057 what do you mean “evidence”? Why have i got to prove that?
Purely for the fact someone sits in it all day is enough evidence but also the fact it has computer equipment onboard is another.
I also don’t understand your second comment, whats that got to do with anything? I said i wouldnt mind the job.. minimal work, warm, comfortable and dry. Whats not to love.
Stop with the sarcastic remarks and keep them to yourself if you’re unable to interact with other humans.
A hot spot here was hidden away on the other side of a fly over / bridge that used to coincide with a speed limit change from 60 to 40 and on a dual carriage way which was 30, but a lot of people believed it to be 40. I would 100% support zero tolerance around schools etc but it does seem that on occasions, different vans are deliberately trying to catch people out.
There is no data to support speed enforcement around schools.
@@unleashthedragonwithin2057 Moot point
If these speed camera vans were really about safety, why don't the offending drivers get pulled over immediately, so they can be informed about their dangerous speeds straight away, rather than the police telling them through the post several days later ?
The above is police staff with no authority to stop vehicles. However, at busy sites where say speeders are being recorded at one a minute, you pull the first over and all those speeders following are immune as the officers are tied up with the first.
Think it through.
@@unleashthedragonwithin2057 I have thought it through thanks. And it's a profitable business model, but it doesn't take the speeding drivers off the road fast enough.
@@TheLeedsAppreciationSociety Explain about the profit and running costs please.
@@unleashthedragonwithin2057 Lazy git. Go on a business studies course if you need to ask that.
I mean saying speed doesn't kill is accurate it's the rapid deceleration that does the job
Not quite, it's the speed immediately prior to the rapid deceleration that determines the level of injury.
A few years back I was driving on a road I used quite a lot its very steep and downhill, there was a white van sign written like it was a builders vehicle, The back doors were wide open revealing a speed camera, it was left like that for a few hours, obviously someone realised what they were up to. I myself had got a speeding ticket on the same road prior to this and I could never remember seeing a police speed camera van. I realised as soon as I saw the ‘builders van’ that was the one that got me. Very sneaky move by the police!
Yes, there's one of those based at Camborne Police Station. Damaged wing mirror for effect.
@@fatbelly27 Devon & Cornwall do not operate from unmarked vehicles.
@@unleashthedragonwithin2057 I've seen that van subsequently. Police inside. They also have a number of unmarked cars including a Skoda Fabia estate! Be careful if you're driving in that area.
@@unleashthedragonwithin2057 It's an unmarked van with a camera at the back window (single window on one of the two rear doors). On the two occasions I've seen it it has been parked alongside areas where speeding is common. Maybe I'm putting two and two together to make five.
For part 2 can you ask if the speed gun works at night time as the head light from the car would make me think it would blur/dazzle the video footage on the speed gun and if it can read spaced out number plates please
As far as I’m aware it worlds. But part two we will address the most liked comments on this video. Thanks for the input pal :)
Some police forces have been testing a new gun that works at night and are getting rolled out this year, at £1OK a pop
I am curious about that, cause I know the lasers used by stuff like speed guns operate outside the visible light spectrum, but some lights release a lot of stuff like UV light that you can't see in addition to the light you can. I doubt there's any kind of dazzle effect though, after all, lasers and visible light are very far away from eachother in wavelength I'm fairly certain.
They spend 10k of tax payers money on a camera just to steal more money off poor tax payers
@@markmawson1 from what I’ve heard they place the van where a community of people report speeding, there’s a sharp bend 5 minutes from me and many times people speed round there so the police put a camera van just after that bend
I can see you have the large rear window fully open. Is this always the case ? Iv seen vans with a small opening in each window (say 10cm x 30cm) can they get you through this gap ?
If the gap was too small, they'd probably notice when the kit didn't work?
Ah the police are so kind informative and helpful.