@@unleashthedragonwithin2057 or because there’s quite a lot of elderly people that go to hospitals and if there’s a road near they might have to cross it.some might not be able to tell how fast someone is going in their car.Do you not have any common sense?
@@ihavenoname4851 It isn't a matter of common sense, it's a question of data - verifiable data. Old people do not walk miles to get to hospitals, such establishments provide transport and unless there are stats to support collisions, motor vehicle vs pedestrian, at or near hospitals, then there is no reason to provide enforcement. Exactly the same applies outside schools - it's the 500m radius around schools where kids cross unsupervised that the problems arise, NOT outside schools.
@@unleashthedragonwithin2057 did I say that they walk miles? I said if there was a road nearby. You’re also talking about the 500m outside schools. You do realise that a majority of schools are on a main road? If there was a van there people will take their speed into consideration because there’s always somebody that drives too fast.
@@ihavenoname4851 Well unless every elderly patient lives close to the hospital, which is highly implausible, then if they walk there, it would be miles. Please provide verifiable evidence that the majority of schools are on main roads. Please provide verifiable data that there is a recognised collision history outside schools.
Speeding on fast roads isn’t much of a big deal tbh. It’s more dangerous when cars do less than 70 in the middle Lane or fast Lane. Idiots like that need to be getting done for dangerous driving
@@thegamingdimension8665 The problem is that car speedometers always underreport speed, so 99% of people will keep the needle on 70 whereas in reality they are actually going 60-65.
@@thegamingdimension8665 No such thing as a fast lane. Technically, unless you're not allowed up to 70 (large lorries, caravans, trailers etc) you should be doing 70mph. Left lane for driving, all other lanes for over taking only
@@unleashthedragonwithin2057 the sudden stop is governed by the object you collide with. A fence will slow you, a tree will stop you. Speed is very much not everything
@@pixlhound Not quite. Yes, what you collide with will influence deceleration and every collision will have uniquely relative conditions, but regardless of the what, where or how, impact speed sits at the core of resulting injury. The DfT Road Safety Web Publication No. 16 entitled 'Relationship between Speed and Risk of Fatal Injury: Pedestrians and Car Occupants' is a great place to start. Speed is unquestionably everything.
@Unleash The Dragon Within no, your explanation just proved that speed is unquestionably not everything. If it was, what you hit would have no bearing on the outcome. No matter if its a mattress or a mountain, if speed were the only factor hitting either at the same speed would cause the same injury... if that's the case, safety equipment is redundant as it provides nothing in the equation. Speed may well be the largest contributing factor, but it demonstrably is not everything
@@pixlhound No, I clearly typed '...and every collision will have uniquely relative conditions...'. Your explanation just proved that speed is unquestionably everything. Was the mattress just lying on the carriageway or supported by metal framework? What safety 'equipment' are you citing that pedestrians carry? The faster you collide with something, the greater the level of inertia that requires dissipating, so the risk of injury increases exponentially with impact speed.
Maybe if they stopped wasting as much money on those vans and wasting an officers time sitting in them they could spend more money and officers time finding the thieves that broke in to 4 of my vans last year as well as stealing 1 entire van. Not so much as a phone call from them on any of the crimes......I’m sure someone doing 80 on an empty motorway is far more serious.
The use of ANPR (which this van has) is powerful in stopping the larger criminals and known thieves. Criminals have to travel so the more they can be tracked on their location, these “flagged” vehicles will be stopped, searched and wanted suspects arrested. Remember Jack the Ripper was caught because of his number plate, it’s a useful tool. Unfortunately the only way we can get more police on the streets is to increase our council tax, but we’d all moan about that too.
ANPR is great on travelling police vehicles which are ready to act. By chance we drove by our stolen van on the motorway (with a new number plate 8 hours after going missing). When the thief recognised another van with the same sign writing they erratically pulled off the motorway, down a slip road, smashed in to 2 cars, drove off and was never seen again and we never heard a thing back on it after reporting all this as it was happening. Surely a white Mercedes sprinter with a red Nissan micra registration plate travelling down one of the biggest motorways in Britain should have been picked up by a fixed ANPR camera? No because they don’t spend money on them or policing them because they won’t make as much money as mobile speed camera vans. The mobile speeding camera vans and the operators in them will have a huge set up and running cost which is mainly spent as the vans make money. Real officers fighting real crime is what we need. Can those vans detect a drink driver weaving all over the road doing 50 on the motorway in an old banger that just scraped through its MOT. No. Can actual police cars with actual officers driving around the roads looking for all forms of crime. Yes. The money being spent on the mobile speed vans is purely profit driven.
@@anwaaraslam723 That seems fair. You should be at the correct speed limit as you cross the Speed Limit threshold. So if you're speeding, and you get caught speeding, and then get a fine for your speeding, do you think that's someone else fault or something?
@@Smithjw haha everytime you get in the car do you do checks on all your bulbs and tyres? Haha they sit there on purpose knowing that it’s the easiest way to get tickets, there’s no danger in what they’re doing, there’s normally no houses around or anything at that point. They just sit there racking in money from people slowing down slowly lol. The point of the police and speeding is to make the roads safer, but they do that just gain more money. Sit in the middle of the 30 zone or on the motorways if you want to. But most the time it’s at the change in speed limit lol yes it’s still illegal if that’s what your pointing out? Otherwise yes they wouldn’t be getting the ticket.
@@anwaaraslam723 well, yes, don't you? Would you seriously drive off with broken headlight bulbs and flat tyres? I mean, the vans are bright yellow, and the speed limit signs are not a secret code. If you get caught you can't claim you were tricked somehow so why be so mad?
Meanwhile in a street not far away, criminal's are busy releaving citizens of their belongings 😡 It amazes me how Police Force's are always "short staffed" 😖
The female above is a member of police staff and cannot deal with theft. The traffic officer deals with traffic offences and not street theft, that would be beat or response officers. Meanwhile on TH-cam comments people are busy typing misinformed nonsense.
Unleash The Dragon Within yes. And whilst i have no excuse for being caught speeding on the M5 on a bright sunny day at 1300, what on earth has that do with safety priority? Safest roads are motorways, but two camera vans and one police car sat on bridges. Meanwhile speeders in built up areas. Police are interested in revenue and making tik tok videos. Must be a fulfilling job :)
@@davidm-1965tb Police have no interest in revenue - every single penny goes into The Treasury. Speeding fines equate to around £100m a year (non-Covid years that is), however the national debt currently stands at more than £2,004 billion, so more than £2 trillion. No-one is interested in the pocket change generated by speed cameras.
Unleash The Dragon Within as maybe.... but sitting on the M5 on a sunny afternoon with three vehicles wasn't exactly protecting the most vulnerable people on the roads (towns, villages). Yes i was speeding, and i was penalised , but ridiculous that they sit on a motorway in perfect conditions
In another street, also not far away, there's a prick in a Fiesta, who's only deterent against driving like a maniac and potentially plowing through other cars and pedestrians, is the threat of being caught by the Police Force. That smack on the back of your head, is your circular argument making it's return trip.
Fully agree withbyour comments. I'm an ex traffic cop (retired) from back in the day when we stopped people and spoke to them..... Its a blatant misuse of public funds to use these camera vans. People want real policing back....
It’s not paid for by public funds, mobile speed enforcement is self funded via a % of the fee for the speed awareness course so without it the money wouldn’t exist.
@@PenzancePete the problem is that when the police say they have limited resources and don't turn up the things like burglary. And then hanging around and trying to catch people doing 33 miles an hour is a disgrace. I am willing to bet during their entire afternoon of sitting in a van they don't actually witness an accident. They just collect money.
Try saying that when you just played Russian roulette with a hgv. It wasn't your speed that got you hurt. It's the moron manoeuvre you tried either cutting them up or sneaking down the inside when the hgvs turning and you get crushed coz the driver hasn't seen you.
You can definitely fight it in court and you'd probably win if you have evidence, such as dash cam footage etc. Generally when they don't set out signs they are already on a road that has speed cameras sign posted. As it's already sign posted they won't need to
So long as it is advertised that they will or might be doing speed checks on a stretch of road in the media be it internet or news paper it is legal most have a camera sign on the stretch of roads any rate meaning it's legal and don't forget don't speed can't complain otherwise. Yes I do speed
Had one of these vans following me the other day on the way to its next stop. I was doing about 40 in a 30 and it was up my backside the whole way nudging me to go faster. Honestly you couldn’t make it up.
@@johnflavin1602 The high beams won't stop you getting a ticket if you are speeding. The laser gets you from the front and the camera on the roof gets you on the way past. The only thing high beams are going to do is piss off anyone else coming the other way.
@@zyonchaos1818 what are you talking about? High beams will help you see the hidden speed vans. I didn't say keep high beams on when cars are coming against you.
Between these and average speed cameras surely Safety goes out the window and accidents go through the roof as drivers focus more on their speedometer than the road ahead. Driving somewhere you don't know nowadays is like juggling 5 balls looking out for what speed you should be doing at any given time, trying to decipher the road ahead, traffic lights, crossings, bus lanes, cameras etc. I used to enjoy driving but now they have killed all enjoyment and replaced it with stress and anxiety for people just trying to be sensible and earn a living
As a driver your focus is the road ahead and that's where the posted threshold will be. Why would you need to keep looking out any differently than simply doing what you'd be doing anyway? Mobile speed enforcement has been out there for a couple of decades, nothing has changed.
@@tomf4547 Posted thresholds are just signs and part of the ever changing vista in front of a moving vehicle. Why would they require 'more' concentration?
@@unleashthedragonwithin2057 obviously I can't judge my speed down to 1mph between cameras and I refuse to sit at 40 hr on end so I'm monitoring the speed more than I'm monitoring miss daisy as she changes lanes without looking
I’ve been in a police car with a police officer driving, he was giving me a lift over to another police station where I was to give a statement regarding something I had witnessed a week earlier. He floored it all the way, the speed limit was 30. I asked him about how fast he was driving and he said he is allowed to drive at the speed! 😂
@@KING0SISQO You're wrong I'm afraid. Common misconception. NO warning equipment has to be activated for trained police drivers to make use of exemptions. It's commonly stated by the public that the equipment has to be used but that isn't correct. It's down to the driver to justify and also to be accountable for their actions should they be asked to account for their actions in a court of law. Many of the public are also wrong on the "Can't use them unless going to an emergency"... the actual rule is "making use of warning equipment or exemptions FOR a policing purpose"... doesn't have to be an emergency call. If they were trying to discreetly catch up to a vehicle that had been reported stolen up ahead, say in an unmarked car, blaring a siren and flashing blue lights gives the game away completely and the driver of said stolen car might then take off, starting a dangerous pursuit when it's not necessary. On the other hand if an unmarked car with no lights activated and no siren overtakes a car or two it's less noticeable and less obvious.
Police don't take any of the money, the fines go to The Treasury via Conditional Offer Unit and course fees are paid direct to the course provider. A card slot would be pointless.
It's amazing all this technology available to make money but if your house gets broken into all you get is a crime number. This makes me feel very safe.
Basically karen basically sits on a basically modified seat, with a basically speed camera that basically measures speed and basically catching speeding motorists basically. Basically this is a basic idea which basically picks up on the basics basically rendering the basic camera system basically noting speed and basically identifying drivers, basically. 🤦♂️
“Interesting, interesting.” “Amazing!” “Wow!” “Out of interest” “Interesting” How funny was the part where he asked if she had a vast knowledge about cameras, she basically said no, then he says “awesome, sounds exciting!” - is this video is a giant fucking spoof or something 🤣
When I got caught speeding the van was in a farmers field on a bend totally hidden, 30mph limit doing 36mph (got the picture) road conditions, dry road empty of all human and animal life, from that day on I always refer the police as the Revenue collection agency (RCA) well rules are rules and I broke one but the speeding awareness course afterwards which was conducted by 2 ex police officers left me with the impression that I and others were funding their lucrative life styles.
I know some who was nicked two mph over thirty coming out of a village. He was accelerating toward the higher speed limit . He assured me he was under 30 mph through the village. He had to undertake a speed awareness course and lost valuable wages toward mortgage and family costs . They are revenue raising plain and simple. Cars are safer now than ever before . No wonder people suddenly don't see serious crime or help the police . The working man pays for everything and yet the bone idle and lazy prosper .
@@johnniethepom2905 You know someone who claimed to have got a notice for 2mph over - they were however just embellishing the story. Constabularies who are National Scheme members who offer the course option must observe the same criteria to maintain continuity across the country. None have ever issued a notice for 2mph over. None. Ever.
I never knew about the camera on the top to catch bikes. Clever! I wonder if Karen zapped me on the A38. My laser detector went off. Luckily I wasn't speeding. And fair play to Devon & Cornwall police for getting involved and running through the kit - as well as the useful lecture at the end on thinking distances.
Yeah I understand that speeding kills but you can’t judge someone else’s thinking time based on your own opinion. A lot of people that drive at a faster speed watch the cars wayyyyy ahead of them to ensure they have a better reaction time.
Its that difference in speed. If you got fast reactions you're going to stop quicker at 70 but still have the same reaction time if you're driving at 90 so the difference is still the same
@Phuket Wurd your reaction time doesn't change regardless if you've got good reactions or not. If its the same person drive both at 70 and at 90 you'll still get a gap
In my experience the vast majority don’t. Speeding isn’t synonymous with good driving and often (probably more frequently) it’s the opposite. The point I think being made in the video is that reaction times are the same irrespective of speed, meaning that a faster car will travel more distance before the reacting driver starts to apply the brakes. He’s correct of course.
As motorists we all know we shouldn't exceed the given speed limit yet we also ALL know that these camera vans are also set up deliberately at non accident spots, where the speed limit should have been raised by the powers that be but wasn't because its a nice little earner.. I wonder how Karen actually feels when she is helping this scam?
@@phillkirby a navigation app that is updated live by community, so worth having, you can mark on the map anything like objects/potholes/police/accident etc and so can anyone else using the app and it shows up for a fair amount of time so you can rely on it for everything. Definitely worth getting especially as it’s free too
@@U2021-k4c No, you confuse the cause of a collision with the cause of death - impact speed is most certainly the factor in a crash that determines the level of physical trauma, varying factors not withstanding. The faster you hit something, the more inertia there is that has to be dissipated. Of course, not every collision is the same, combined with the design and build of the relevant vehicles, hence the reason why some walk away, whilst others leave on their back in a bag, or in several bags.
Firstly, I haven't been done by the plod for speeding, but why do a lot of them sit on major dual carriageways or M-Ways doing people on what are the safest roads. The dual A64, the A3, M74 - the list goes on. And if its about safety why not put a fixed camera there?
possibly because of the chaos closing a dual carriageway/motorway causes. M8 was closed for 12 hours both east & west bound after somebody died in the crash.
A64 Malton Bypass. They are on the Bridge over the road. Motor bikes after Scarborough road races is a fantastic time for them. ££££££££££££££££££. It pays for a new camera in a day.
It's actually the severity of the sudden stop that determines the level of physical trauma, so the speed immediately prior to the impact is everything.
I'm a compliance officer working for a local authority. The council have a policy around the use of council vehicles that all drivers are responsible for upholding all the road rules. The vehicles are monitored for speed, acceleration/ braking, and cornering and we get a weekly report regarding our driving behaviour. Some of my colleagues have complained that they can't drive to the road rules, particularly around speed, and I'm like, we are compliance officers, how can we expect to enforce others if we can't comply ourselves.
I'm an advanced driver of 42 years and I have to admit that I speed everyday and jump red lights (early of course) but I still think these guys do a great job. Most people who speed are shit drivers, have no observational road reading skills, drive shit cars and just put their foot down and hope for the best. When I go out to make a journey in my car I always walk around the car to check my tyres. If I approach the car from the front I always walk around the back of the car to make sure there is no obstacle or more importantly a person behind the car. If I pull away on the road I check behind by using my mirrors but I always look over my shoulder as mirrors have blind spots. I was surprised when I had advanced driving lessons and then took my advanced test that most of the stuff I learned was just basically common sense such as, don't drive too close, slow down when it's wet or dark or both, use brakes to slow down instead of gears as you can control the vehicle more easily and safely with brakes than gears and brakes are cheaper to renew than a clutch and so on. These guys do a necessary job in areas where residents are are worried about their kids being knocked down by speeding idiots who can't drive.
@@unleashthedragonwithin2057 You’re here as a defensive voice for police staff, and what a fucking brilliant advertisement for the force you are; Picking fights online, trying to trigger people, being cocky as fuck and instigating arguments. You’re one of those who thrive off the hate. Bit sad, no? And with a username like that...? Probably a filthy rogue cop, claiming to be morally superior. There’s a reason this comment section is 80% hate and you’re helping fan the flame.
To be fair, the Police aren’t forcing anyone to speed and everyone behind a wheel knows the rules of the road. I’ll confess to speeding occasionally but when I do I know I can’t complain if I get caught. It’s important the speed limits are policed and there are consequences for exceeding them. Otherwise even more people than already do would drive way above their capability level and/or demonstrate poor judgement.
The reason they have a forward facing camera now is so no one pinches their front number plate and puts it on their car and then keep driving past the camera van over the speed limit lol
Obviously but if they want to they can try looking at other cameras on the highways such as ANPRs to try finding your reg and then you’d risk getting done for trying to not get caught
Can't do you from other cameras they aren't Mi5 😅👌 it's a myth you drive past you get caught you see window open you immediately turn 90 or get back on yourself I've never once had van troubles and I ride a stunted f4i everywhere 😅🤫🤟👌
near Stoke on Trent a speed camera van was caught speeding by the police it was going over 70 miles per hour on a dual carriageway which is illegal for a van as they are limited to 60mph
@@gingernutpreacher class 4 ie cars etc are up-to 3.5t. vans under 3.5 can also be class 4 but still 60mph restricted unless it's a van made from a car. 2 classes, van and car derived van. A lot of people are really caught out by this silly grey area and it should be stopped.
@@frazerguest2864 No, every fine payment is sent to the Conditional Offer Unit at Southend and then on to The Treasury's Consolidated Fund. Not a penny is seen or given to police. assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/648328/FOI2017-13509_-_Revenue_collected_in_fines_and_penalties_from_driving_offences.pdf Please provide verifiable evidence of targets. This is the internet and such information will be easily and readily accessible.
For part 2 can you ask if the speed gun works at night time as the head light from the car would make me think it would blur/dazzle the video footage on the speed gun and if it can read spaced out number plates please
I am curious about that, cause I know the lasers used by stuff like speed guns operate outside the visible light spectrum, but some lights release a lot of stuff like UV light that you can't see in addition to the light you can. I doubt there's any kind of dazzle effect though, after all, lasers and visible light are very far away from eachother in wavelength I'm fairly certain.
@@markmawson1 from what I’ve heard they place the van where a community of people report speeding, there’s a sharp bend 5 minutes from me and many times people speed round there so the police put a camera van just after that bend
Just a quick question... does the front camera record the speed or does it just track the reg... as I was coming towards the front end of the speed van but it's camera was at the back ?? So wondering has the van caught my speed from the front camera ?.
They just say the only rule is for the public to be doing the speed limit they can check the public however they like. One of the tabloids caught them getting people from a horsebox on the side of the road once in Sussex I think or Wales can't remember, all legal, sneeky, but all legal
Surely it’s a bit pointless saying that the van is painted in bright colours when they measure your speed instantly when you pop into view a kilometre away, before you even have chance to react? At the end of the day if you break the speed limit it’s a risk that you take that you get caught, but a van can hardly be seen as a deterrent if they use that kilometre range to ambush people as they come around corners.
I guess maybe the idea of telling people 1km is so that they act as a deterrent for the whole time the van is in view. I think it depends on the copper how quickly they snap you when u come into view. I’ve come across lots of these vans speeding and managed to slow down enough all but two of the times, so I reckon they must give some leeway..
@@ciaranoloan6199 They don't go much into technique in this video, but typically they aim the laser at the point a car comes into view, to be able to take a reading instantly. If you can see the van, it's already too late.
They do not work on motorcycles from 1km, bikes have to be 500-600 metres to get an accurate reading by which time any observant biker would have seen these revenue makers ! 😁
Karen the tax collector - could never morally do this job or a parking inspector - just not right. We all speed sometimes but often drop back down to the right speed when we notice it. Most people who are caught are people who have never knowingly sped in the past. If we constantly look at the speedo we would constantly have a collision.
Amber Hammilton If you ever had to attend an RTA where a child was killed or seriously injured by a speeding vehicle there's just a possibility you might develop a more mature attitude.
They park in stupid places hiding in blind corners tucked up behind bushes or road signs also on bridge like camper vans parked up over dual carriageway in North Yorkshire ! Aswell being parked up inbetween cars at side of road no signs out etc entrapment !
Do they feel happy in their jobs I wonder, with 95% of their role being about revenue raising. Apparently due to lock down their revenue is severely down. What a shame.
@@unleashthedragonwithin2057 enough for sitting in an air-conditioned van with their feet up haha. They will be salary based so no idea, i expect 24-28k + pension
@@SuPrAmAd101 Air conditioned - evidence please? How is the above any different or special to someone working in an office like countless other roles that provide the salary option?
@@unleashthedragonwithin2057 what do you mean “evidence”? Why have i got to prove that? Purely for the fact someone sits in it all day is enough evidence but also the fact it has computer equipment onboard is another. I also don’t understand your second comment, whats that got to do with anything? I said i wouldnt mind the job.. minimal work, warm, comfortable and dry. Whats not to love. Stop with the sarcastic remarks and keep them to yourself if you’re unable to interact with other humans.
The issue with speed control is that it is taking your mind off controlling the car and observing the driving environment. When a speed camera van is seen the first thing I do is check my speed. How long does it take? Rather than having police vans maybe a better system would be to have tech built into the car to warn of overspeed or control the throttle/brake to stop you going over speed. Sat navs can do the audible warning but it needs to be upto date. Road works are difficult and the average speed assessment types are a night mare. So it makes me annoyed to have a police Sargent say no one else is to blame but you. I bet you have gone above 33 mph many times mr Sargent.
A hot spot here was hidden away on the other side of a fly over / bridge that used to coincide with a speed limit change from 60 to 40 and on a dual carriage way which was 30, but a lot of people believed it to be 40. I would 100% support zero tolerance around schools etc but it does seem that on occasions, different vans are deliberately trying to catch people out.
No, it's the speed just prior to that sudden stop that determines the level of physical trauma and damage. So impact speed is a fundamental component of a collision.
@@unleashthedragonwithin2057 Speed doesnt kill if you stay in control. Accidents on the autobahn are minimal yet people are zooming there 180mph on a daily basis. UK road structure is fucking trash and people cant drive because education is minimal. Thats the issue not speed...
Drivers speed through town centres and schools you see it daily but NO speed vans however on dual carriage ways and motorways there's always plenty and why 1000s of drivers and millions of pounds generated weekly for the treasury its got nothing to do with road safety.
If you look at other TH-cam clips that feature Devon & Cornwall speed camera vans, they are only parked in urban locations and one just metres from Notre Dame School.
Try driving in Somerset. The speed limit varies hugely between 20 M.P.H. and 60 M.P.H. and just for amusement they are changed from time to time. I spend far more time, effort and concentration trying to work out what the speed limit is than I do looking at the road. Very dangerous indeed! With all the money they must rake in from speeding fines it is no wonder the Somerset and Avon police have such big balls.
A few years back I was driving on a road I used quite a lot its very steep and downhill, there was a white van sign written like it was a builders vehicle, The back doors were wide open revealing a speed camera, it was left like that for a few hours, obviously someone realised what they were up to. I myself had got a speeding ticket on the same road prior to this and I could never remember seeing a police speed camera van. I realised as soon as I saw the ‘builders van’ that was the one that got me. Very sneaky move by the police!
@@unleashthedragonwithin2057 I've seen that van subsequently. Police inside. They also have a number of unmarked cars including a Skoda Fabia estate! Be careful if you're driving in that area.
@@unleashthedragonwithin2057 It's an unmarked van with a camera at the back window (single window on one of the two rear doors). On the two occasions I've seen it it has been parked alongside areas where speeding is common. Maybe I'm putting two and two together to make five.
Nice one George, great series. I'd like to see these "community concerns" for the A30 Cornwall Services, they must get lots of concerned members of the public in this great hiding location under the bridge 😂🤷♂️
The kit has a range that allows speeds to be measured the instant a vehicle comes in to view. This means that the enforcement position has no bearing on anything - you've been targeted long before you've had the opportunity to move your foot from the throttle to the brake.
@IDazI Show me someone who says they have NEVER driven over the speed limit, and I’ll show you a liar. Even these pigs will have gone over the speed limit at some point in their miserable lives. Police love lawbreakers, keeps them in work, gives them purpose. Police would be defunded if crimes stopped being committed. Sociologists agree crime is useful to society. If speeding is so bad, why aren’t cars limited to 70...?
So if I’m speeding going head on with the van as long as I slow down before I pass it I should be ok?? This just happened so I’m curios to know if I’ve got a fine coming
Tbh iv watched a few of these videos , some cops get a bad rep and some rightly so . This guy's actually one of the good ones ,nice to see cops engaging with the car scene . Well done 👍 top cop
@Sosso Mund Proof they are doing it? The clip is thirteen years old and was an operation intended to catch specific habitual motorcyclists on a certain stretch of carriageway.
@Sosso Mund You misunderstand, you stated 'Thanks for that proof they are doing it!' based upon an old clip. Yes, they resorted to extreme measures to catch specific offenders, there is nothing to suggest that this is common practice today, if it were here in the UK, it would be easily located on the internet. One cannot prove that which doesn't exist.
@Sosso Mund Evidence please (although I have no clue what '..in Matlock also sometime back a biker put a video on here of a plain gold speed camera van in Deryshire' - means?).
Very interesting video. Thanks for the insight. I find that using the cruise control in my car illiminates chance of speeding. It's saved me a couple of times as if I wasn't using it I'm sure my speed would've drifted up Infront of a camera van
Do you think it’s acceptable for a force to use the YELLOW light bar (on the roof) while trying to enforce speed limits on a road, which is clearly done in order to make it look like a highway maintenance/recovery van?
Was doddling along around 80ish and saw one of these cash machines! No traffic in-front and clear road. High performance vehicle and was on eco cruise control. Lets wait and see now!
Waiting for the video about all the technology, strategy and techniques they use when your 20 grand motorbike is stolen. Oh wait, there is none. They just give you a crime number with a ‘what did you expect’ shrug.
@@unleashthedragonwithin2057 what he's getting at is they are quick to give out speeding tickets when they are handed speeding drivers on a plate but when it involves investigation of an expensive item stolen they have no interest cause it means they will have to do some work.
@@eugbrat The above is specialist police staff, not a regular officer so she can do nothing about things being stolen. This frees us regular officers to do just that.
Or like when your pushbike gets nicked from the front of a Hospital and Police say they’ll check CCTV. But then tell you that due to too much footfall they couldn’t pinpoint the time of the crime etc... I bet they tell this to everyone who’s CCTV footage they can’t be arsed viewing.
@@unleashthedragonwithin2057 like the time my bike was stolen from my shed and all I got was a crime number and not even a visit from the police or shed checked for finger prints. Sorry but some us have been wronged and have little faith in police
Speeding really isn’t the issue here, It’s the way that people are taught to drive. Our driving test are just too simple and do not show you how to control a vehicle, in any situation. Unlike some counties where you’re taught on how to correct skids, loss of traction, etc, etc. One can simply drive around for 45 mins and park or reverse around a corner and then pass. Our driving standards need to be improved and the test needs an overhaul. A lot has changed over the last 20/30 in regard to driving but that tests have remained the same.
Agree, I was fortunate enough to have a wonderful Dad who taught me to drive off road as a child so that all I had to do was have lessons on how to pass the test. I learned in 4WD, 3 speed column change and four speed floor change depending on which vehicle he wanted to take out. He taught me to tow trailers and caravans; and trucks. He taught me to drive in convoy and high speed driving, mud, gravel, snow the lot. He taught me about vehicle and road conditions and the differences they made. Also taught me how cars worked (I then became a mechanic and welder too). We loved to go out driving together and I will be forever grateful to him. Now I'm almost 62 but with the same passion for driving.
Agree 100% that's why there ripping all the roundabouts out and putting traffic lights in or adding traffic lights to roundabouts... I used to go round 5 roundabouts to get to work, now I go though 8 sets of traffic lights and I have to set off for work 10 mins earlier then I used to 🤦🏻♂️ The amount of people that don't know how to correctly use a roundabout is shocking....
@@gaz7097 tell me about it but have u realised how dangerous it is when coming off a roundabout and the lights are red everyone has to stop higher chance of being rear ended.
@@Muss786g have you noticed nobody looks to the right when entering a roundabout if there's a traffic light. most people don't look when there's traffic lights in general they just stare at the light and go when it turns green totally oblivious to anything else. I see so many people driving badly or making mistakes and other people adjusting around them to avoid an accident but they have no idea that they are doing anything wrong because they don't see it themselves. I've beeped at a few cars that have cut me up and if I didn't react would have caused an accident. then you get that vacant look.. and you know they have no idea why you beeped them 🤷🏻♂️
How serious is the extra 35ft? What’s more dangerous a driver doing 70 and j day dreaming or someone doing 90 focusing and looking far ahead for possible problems. It’s not as simple as extra thinking time, when people speed they tend to be more focused.
@@unleashthedragonwithin2057 haha great input bro genius, my point definitely wasn’t people who speed tend to be more focused and plan ahead, the people doing the speed limit tend to get a bit lazy with reactions and tbf are the ones more likely to be on their phone.
No they’re calibrated annually it’s carried out by Laser Tech uk (based in Warwick) they are the uk supplier of the equipment, there are distances and speed checks done daily but this is not calibration.
Great series, can tell your police friend is a lot more comfortable on camera. More content like this series defo although into the mods aswell for sure!!
What about spacing on number plates. So the camera can still see number plates so why does spacing really matter. Even ampr cameras still see them as my friend got see by one and he has it spaced out
@@littledtraining5387 most car thief’s will swap the plates for a car that isn’t reported stolen and by then your car is either stripped down or on a boat
Hadn’t picked that up to be honest . My favourite Police speak is “ At this moment in time “ , ie now. An honourable mention please for Priti Patel and “ the facts of the matter “ which she says so often it’s laughable.
I can see you have the large rear window fully open. Is this always the case ? Iv seen vans with a small opening in each window (say 10cm x 30cm) can they get you through this gap ?
Regardless of whether they are hiding behind a bush, under a bridge or round a blind corner.. the fact still remains... if YOU don't speed you will never get caught. Even if it was a money making scheme... the fact still remains... don't speed and you won't get caught. Police don't set the speed limits they just enforce them. Aim your anger at transport minister etc. As the officer said... you are in control and so if youre caught speeding the only person to blame is you!!!
@@uktech Lol... I'm guessing you got caught then. People generally don't like being told how it is and prefer things sugar coated. If they are money making schemes wouldn't it be awesome if no-one sped and they made 0!! Wouldn't that be sticking it to the Gov? Anyways I agree with the concept of speed cameras, I'm just not sold on how they are currently used
The thing i hate the most is when the Camera Van is parked half on the pavement meaning you have to walk around it in the road. If that was a normal driver - they would get done for it. I have seen this locally near a primary school , watching a woman with a pushchair and two kids having to step out from behind it into the road - all whilst the van is trying to catch people speeding past the school.
Of course it's a Karen catching people speeding...
And she loves her job too much
And they’ve tried to make her look like a Police officer when she’s not.
@@LickyDischarge yes, they’ve tried to trick people that she’s police by clearly indicating that she is not a police officer lmao.
@@SD-oi9gr did I miss something then?
@@LickyDischarge What difference does it make if she's a police officer or not?
9:18 “it’s there for you to see” yet parks behind bushes or bottom of steep banks in blind spots . Never outside a school or a hospital
Why would she need to be near a hospital, are the patients tumbling out of bed and out the front doors and on to the carriageway?
@@unleashthedragonwithin2057 or because there’s quite a lot of elderly people that go to hospitals and if there’s a road near they might have to cross it.some might not be able to tell how fast someone is going in their car.Do you not have any common sense?
@@ihavenoname4851 It isn't a matter of common sense, it's a question of data - verifiable data. Old people do not walk miles to get to hospitals, such establishments provide transport and unless there are stats to support collisions, motor vehicle vs pedestrian, at or near hospitals, then there is no reason to provide enforcement. Exactly the same applies outside schools - it's the 500m radius around schools where kids cross unsupervised that the problems arise, NOT outside schools.
@@unleashthedragonwithin2057 did I say that they walk miles? I said if there was a road nearby. You’re also talking about the 500m outside schools. You do realise that a majority of schools are on a main road? If there was a van there people will take their speed into consideration because there’s always somebody that drives too fast.
@@ihavenoname4851 Well unless every elderly patient lives close to the hospital, which is highly implausible, then if they walk there, it would be miles.
Please provide verifiable evidence that the majority of schools are on main roads.
Please provide verifiable data that there is a recognised collision history outside schools.
The amount of people hitting the brakes when they see these revenue collectors is more dangerous than the speeding.
Speeding on fast roads isn’t much of a big deal tbh. It’s more dangerous when cars do less than 70 in the middle Lane or fast Lane. Idiots like that need to be getting done for dangerous driving
@@thegamingdimension8665 The problem is that car speedometers always underreport speed, so 99% of people will keep the needle on 70 whereas in reality they are actually going 60-65.
@@thegamingdimension8665 …..I bet more motorists slam on their brakes when Karen is outside the vehicle and they see that boat race.
@@Doug1885 You really find her that attractive?
@@thegamingdimension8665 No such thing as a fast lane. Technically, unless you're not allowed up to 70 (large lorries, caravans, trailers etc) you should be doing 70mph. Left lane for driving, all other lanes for over taking only
“Speed has never killed anyone. Suddenly coming to a stop, that’s what gets you.”
- Jeremy Clarkson
It is the severity of the sudden stop that is governed by the speed at the moment of impact.
Speed is everything.
@@unleashthedragonwithin2057 the sudden stop is governed by the object you collide with. A fence will slow you, a tree will stop you. Speed is very much not everything
@@pixlhound Not quite. Yes, what you collide with will influence deceleration and every collision will have uniquely relative conditions, but regardless of the what, where or how, impact speed sits at the core of resulting injury. The DfT Road Safety Web Publication No. 16 entitled 'Relationship between Speed and
Risk of Fatal Injury: Pedestrians and Car Occupants' is a great place to start.
Speed is unquestionably everything.
@Unleash The Dragon Within no, your explanation just proved that speed is unquestionably not everything. If it was, what you hit would have no bearing on the outcome. No matter if its a mattress or a mountain, if speed were the only factor hitting either at the same speed would cause the same injury... if that's the case, safety equipment is redundant as it provides nothing in the equation.
Speed may well be the largest contributing factor, but it demonstrably is not everything
@@pixlhound No, I clearly typed '...and every collision will have uniquely relative conditions...'. Your explanation just proved that speed is unquestionably everything. Was the mattress just lying on the carriageway or supported by metal framework?
What safety 'equipment' are you citing that pedestrians carry?
The faster you collide with something, the greater the level of inertia that requires dissipating, so the risk of injury increases exponentially with impact speed.
CASH MACHINES
Hence why I've never had a speeding ticket?
Only for fools.
Since when has the gov never tried to turn us all into ATM’s? Its like another tax this lol
Karen really likes to use the word ‘Basically’ rather a lot.
It is for those that like to speed
it's amazing how reliable the sd cards are for speeding when they corrupt so many body cam recordings when they are in the wrong.
It's CF cards, not SD.
there are over 100 languages on this earth and you chose to speak straight facts
@@creamcheesenation Straight facts are the same whatever language they appear in.
@@unleashthedragonwithin2057 If you read my comment again you'll notice I was referring to 'straight facts' being it's own language. Class dismissed.
@@creamcheesenation Why have you added an apostrophe to 'its'? It isn't 'it is own language'?
Maybe if they stopped wasting as much money on those vans and wasting an officers time sitting in them they could spend more money and officers time finding the thieves that broke in to 4 of my vans last year as well as stealing 1 entire van. Not so much as a phone call from them on any of the crimes......I’m sure someone doing 80 on an empty motorway is far more serious.
The operators sitting in the vans are Police Staff, not officers.
@@williammitchell1267 still a waste of funding
Don't be silly they don't make any money catching criminals or finding your property they just think fuck you chore you have insurance claim on it
The use of ANPR (which this van has) is powerful in stopping the larger criminals and known thieves. Criminals have to travel so the more they can be tracked on their location, these “flagged” vehicles will be stopped, searched and wanted suspects arrested. Remember Jack the Ripper was caught because of his number plate, it’s a useful tool. Unfortunately the only way we can get more police on the streets is to increase our council tax, but we’d all moan about that too.
ANPR is great on travelling police vehicles which are ready to act. By chance we drove by our stolen van on the motorway (with a new number plate 8 hours after going missing). When the thief recognised another van with the same sign writing they erratically pulled off the motorway, down a slip road, smashed in to 2 cars, drove off and was never seen again and we never heard a thing back on it after reporting all this as it was happening. Surely a white Mercedes sprinter with a red Nissan micra registration plate travelling down one of the biggest motorways in Britain should have been picked up by a fixed ANPR camera? No because they don’t spend money on them or policing them because they won’t make as much money as mobile speed camera vans. The mobile speeding camera vans and the operators in them will have a huge set up and running cost which is mainly spent as the vans make money. Real officers fighting real crime is what we need. Can those vans detect a drink driver weaving all over the road doing 50 on the motorway in an old banger that just scraped through its MOT. No. Can actual police cars with actual officers driving around the roads looking for all forms of crime. Yes. The money being spent on the mobile speed vans is purely profit driven.
Karen is the sort of person that reminds the teacher about homework
When he was waiting for the first car round the corner I half expected a popping and banging ST at 80 mph
Yh I was expecting him to come drifting around fast and furious style because obviously drifting makes you go faster
11 mph. look out vin diesel. your gunna be out of a job
@@devilscousin4643 Not very fast and the copper was furious 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂
I wish
That is just too slow🫤🙂
9 times out of 10 they don’t put the signs up in my area....
I've never seen the signs up.and they always park on blind corners so once you see them it's to late and parking where the speed limits change.
@@stichupman literally from 60 to a 30 most people cross it j below 40 and get ticketsss
@@anwaaraslam723 That seems fair. You should be at the correct speed limit as you cross the Speed Limit threshold. So if you're speeding, and you get caught speeding, and then get a fine for your speeding, do you think that's someone else fault or something?
@@Smithjw haha everytime you get in the car do you do checks on all your bulbs and tyres? Haha they sit there on purpose knowing that it’s the easiest way to get tickets, there’s no danger in what they’re doing, there’s normally no houses around or anything at that point. They just sit there racking in money from people slowing down slowly lol. The point of the police and speeding is to make the roads safer, but they do that just gain more money. Sit in the middle of the 30 zone or on the motorways if you want to. But most the time it’s at the change in speed limit lol yes it’s still illegal if that’s what your pointing out? Otherwise yes they wouldn’t be getting the ticket.
@@anwaaraslam723 well, yes, don't you? Would you seriously drive off with broken headlight bulbs and flat tyres?
I mean, the vans are bright yellow, and the speed limit signs are not a secret code. If you get caught you can't claim you were tricked somehow so why be so mad?
Meanwhile in a street not far away, criminal's are busy releaving citizens of their belongings 😡 It amazes me how Police Force's are always "short staffed" 😖
The female above is a member of police staff and cannot deal with theft. The traffic officer deals with traffic offences and not street theft, that would be beat or response officers.
Meanwhile on TH-cam comments people are busy typing misinformed nonsense.
Unleash The Dragon Within yes. And whilst i have no excuse for being caught speeding on the M5 on a bright sunny day at 1300, what on earth has that do with safety priority? Safest roads are motorways, but two camera vans and one police car sat on bridges. Meanwhile speeders in built up areas. Police are interested in revenue and making tik tok videos. Must be a fulfilling job :)
@@davidm-1965tb Police have no interest in revenue - every single penny goes into The Treasury. Speeding fines equate to around £100m a year (non-Covid years that is), however the national debt currently stands at more than £2,004 billion, so more than £2 trillion. No-one is interested in the pocket change generated by speed cameras.
Unleash The Dragon Within as maybe.... but sitting on the M5 on a sunny afternoon with three vehicles wasn't exactly protecting the most vulnerable people on the roads (towns, villages). Yes i was speeding, and i was penalised , but ridiculous that they sit on a motorway in perfect conditions
In another street, also not far away, there's a prick in a Fiesta, who's only deterent against driving like a maniac and potentially plowing through other cars and pedestrians, is the threat of being caught by the Police Force. That smack on the back of your head, is your circular argument making it's return trip.
Fully agree withbyour comments. I'm an ex traffic cop (retired) from back in the day when we stopped people and spoke to them..... Its a blatant misuse of public funds to use these camera vans. People want real policing back....
It’s not paid for by public funds, mobile speed enforcement is self funded via a % of the fee for the speed awareness course so without it the money wouldn’t exist.
I agree, if they want to educate, then drivers should be stopped and spoken to, not fined and banned. Police are just government enforcers sadly.
“ There not called camera vans, they’re RRVs, Revenue Raising Vehicles”.
dont speed and you wont pay
The police don't actually get the money, so it's obviously not about revenue for them
The police don't get the money. Your car has a speedometer, the roads are marked with the limit. What's your problem?
@@SkidM3rks Maybe not the revenue. But they'll have targets and boxes to tick.
This is way easier than solving real crime.
@@PenzancePete the problem is that when the police say they have limited resources and don't turn up the things like burglary. And then hanging around and trying to catch people doing 33 miles an hour is a disgrace. I am willing to bet during their entire afternoon of sitting in a van they don't actually witness an accident. They just collect money.
After a hard days work catching criminals Karen likes to go home to her cold flat to enjoy a microwave dinner for one with her 16 cats for company
@@deancoleman3059 I'm sorry to hear that bro :)
@@deancoleman3059 love the fella comment, doesn’t excuse what your Mrs does!
@@deancoleman3059 lol 🤣
And frig off to police interceptors
@@deancoleman3059 what? Your married to a royal marine?
Don't talk rubbish, royal marine hahaha 🤣 royal flush more like
They never put signs up 🤣they just sit behind bushes & on bends waiting to catch people out 🤦🏽♂️
Don't speed past bushes or on bends then 🙃
If they haven't put a sign out, I'm fairly sure the signage on street furniture covers it anyway.
Don’t speed and you won’ get caught. It’s not hard!
@@Ben-db5re Why thank you for that pearl of wisdom captain obvious!
@@Ben-db5re ok grandma
True, i got speeding at 134mph lol
It’s all about money not safety remember that
How so?
Try saying that when you just played Russian roulette with a hgv. It wasn't your speed that got you hurt. It's the moron manoeuvre you tried either cutting them up or sneaking down the inside when the hgvs turning and you get crushed coz the driver hasn't seen you.
very true
I've never seen a sign up near a speed camera van.
You can definitely fight it in court and you'd probably win if you have evidence, such as dash cam footage etc.
Generally when they don't set out signs they are already on a road that has speed cameras sign posted. As it's already sign posted they won't need to
There is no requirement whatsoever for warning signs at or near mobile speed camera sites. You cannot fight it in court.
@@hgg219 There is no need for camera warning signs, so your advice is pretty rubbish I’m afraid.
TJ P If you use dash cam footage the you are just giving more proof that you were speeding lol
So long as it is advertised that they will or might be doing speed checks on a stretch of road in the media be it internet or news paper it is legal most have a camera sign on the stretch of roads any rate meaning it's legal and don't forget don't speed can't complain otherwise. Yes I do speed
Had one of these vans following me the other day on the way to its next stop. I was doing about 40 in a 30 and it was up my backside the whole way nudging me to go faster. Honestly you couldn’t make it up.
Complete hypocrites they are. In the dark keep your full beams on as much as possible so you see these highway robbers.
Perks of the job! When she not working her mukkas text her to tell her what times they'll be about.
@@johnflavin1602 The high beams won't stop you getting a ticket if you are speeding. The laser gets you from the front and the camera on the roof gets you on the way past. The only thing high beams are going to do is piss off anyone else coming the other way.
@@zyonchaos1818 what are you talking about? High beams will help you see the hidden speed vans. I didn't say keep high beams on when cars are coming against you.
@@johnflavin1602 doesn't matter if you see them though as they clocked your speed about 300 metres earlier lol
Between these and average speed cameras surely Safety goes out the window and accidents go through the roof as drivers focus more on their speedometer than the road ahead. Driving somewhere you don't know nowadays is like juggling 5 balls looking out for what speed you should be doing at any given time, trying to decipher the road ahead, traffic lights, crossings, bus lanes, cameras etc. I used to enjoy driving but now they have killed all enjoyment and replaced it with stress and anxiety for people just trying to be sensible and earn a living
As a driver your focus is the road ahead and that's where the posted threshold will be. Why would you need to keep looking out any differently than simply doing what you'd be doing anyway?
Mobile speed enforcement has been out there for a couple of decades, nothing has changed.
@@unleashthedragonwithin2057 he's right, limits are up n down constantly which takes up more of your concentration.
@@tomf4547 Posted thresholds are just signs and part of the ever changing vista in front of a moving vehicle. Why would they require 'more' concentration?
@@unleashthedragonwithin2057 obviously I can't judge my speed down to 1mph between cameras and I refuse to sit at 40 hr on end so I'm monitoring the speed more than I'm monitoring miss daisy as she changes lanes without looking
@@tomf4547 If limits change continuously as you stated, when would you get the opportunity to 'sit at 40 hr on end'?
I’ve been in a police car with a police officer driving, he was giving me a lift over to another police station where I was to give a statement regarding something I had witnessed a week earlier. He floored it all the way, the speed limit was 30. I asked him about how fast he was driving and he said he is allowed to drive at the speed! 😂
They aren’t allowed no matter what. Unless those blue lights are on for an emergency. Your case doesn’t sound like it was.
@@KING0SISQO You're wrong I'm afraid. Common misconception.
NO warning equipment has to be activated for trained police drivers to make use of exemptions. It's commonly stated by the public that the equipment has to be used but that isn't correct. It's down to the driver to justify and also to be accountable for their actions should they be asked to account for their actions in a court of law.
Many of the public are also wrong on the "Can't use them unless going to an emergency"... the actual rule is "making use of warning equipment or exemptions FOR a policing purpose"... doesn't have to be an emergency call.
If they were trying to discreetly catch up to a vehicle that had been reported stolen up ahead, say in an unmarked car, blaring a siren and flashing blue lights gives the game away completely and the driver of said stolen car might then take off, starting a dangerous pursuit when it's not necessary. On the other hand if an unmarked car with no lights activated and no siren overtakes a car or two it's less noticeable and less obvious.
Does the camera have a slot that takes all major credit cards?
😂😂😂😂
No, you're confusing them with the toilets and emergency exits on Ryanair aircraft 😂
@@glenjarnold and my Mrs 😯
Police don't take any of the money, the fines go to The Treasury via Conditional Offer Unit and course fees are paid direct to the course provider. A card slot would be pointless.
@@unleashthedragonwithin2057 So it's like money laundering then....................
The best cash cow on earth .
Arse holes who speed are the cash cows! Just how it should be :-)
@@Chief-Instructor you’ve never speeded in Your life, eh Luke.
Second to the police
I'd say that tobacco is the best cash cow on the planet.
@@unleashthedragonwithin2057 no way...cant beat speed cameras
I always imagine the person inside as a little troll laughing when they catch me 🥱
Wouldn't it be better just to stop dreaming about imaginary creatures whilst driving and focus on driving safely and within the posted threshold?
..and what do you know, turns out you were right ...
@@unleashthedragonwithin2057 listen dreaming an driving’s better than drink driving🙄
@@R_RPerformance If either results in a collision, neither is acceptable.
@@unleashthedragonwithin2057 your so boring, why you still here?
It's amazing all this technology available to make money but if your house gets broken into all you get is a crime number. This makes me feel very safe.
Basically karen basically sits on a basically modified seat, with a basically speed camera that basically measures speed and basically catching speeding motorists basically. Basically this is a basic idea which basically picks up on the basics basically rendering the basic camera system basically noting speed and basically identifying drivers, basically. 🤦♂️
Basically it's down to basics basically
“Interesting, interesting.”
“Amazing!”
“Wow!”
“Out of interest”
“Interesting”
How funny was the part where he asked if she had a vast knowledge about cameras, she basically said no, then he says “awesome, sounds exciting!” - is this video is a giant fucking spoof or something 🤣
She speaks 'officialese' with a strong 'jobsworth' accent.
@@OmniDubStep 7
Absolutely
Money making exercise.
Motorists = easy pickings.
Always has been, always will be.
Currently rivalled by dishing out tickets to middle aged women drinking coffee on park benches. These are the real heroes.
@@djb7302 Good one !!
Oh do grow up. What a load of uninformed tosh.
You know how you can stop them from making a penny?
So don't speed... Can't "steal" your money if you don't break the law..
When I got caught speeding the van was in a farmers field on a bend totally hidden, 30mph limit doing 36mph (got the picture) road conditions, dry road empty of all human and animal life, from that day on I always refer the police as the Revenue collection agency (RCA) well rules are rules and I broke one but the speeding awareness course afterwards which was conducted by 2 ex police officers left me with the impression that I and others were funding their lucrative life styles.
You were adding to their monthly income, but ultimately it was a choice you made.
I know some who was nicked two mph over thirty coming out of a village. He was accelerating toward the higher speed limit . He assured me he was under 30 mph through the village. He had to undertake a speed awareness course and lost valuable wages toward mortgage and family costs . They are revenue raising plain and simple. Cars are safer now than ever before . No wonder people suddenly don't see serious crime or help the police . The working man pays for everything and yet the bone idle and lazy prosper .
@@johnniethepom2905 right in every respect.
@@johnniethepom2905 You know someone who claimed to have got a notice for 2mph over - they were however just embellishing the story. Constabularies who are National Scheme members who offer the course option must observe the same criteria to maintain continuity across the country.
None have ever issued a notice for 2mph over. None. Ever.
@@unleashthedragonwithin2057 I'll message him to confirm tomorrow ( due to time difference ) and double check .
I never knew about the camera on the top to catch bikes. Clever! I wonder if Karen zapped me on the A38. My laser detector went off. Luckily I wasn't speeding. And fair play to Devon & Cornwall police for getting involved and running through the kit - as well as the useful lecture at the end on thinking distances.
The roof mounted camera was originally mounted on the inside of the windscreen, or they just looked out of the window and wrote down the VRM.
@@NoBody-gf8ie A good pair of pre-focused binoculars and they can forget luck.
Anyone who takes that long to think about hitting the brakes shouldn't be behind the wheel!
As a biker I will pull a wheelie from now on ,thank you Karen x
Mate exactly what I was thinking 😂😂
For a whole kilometer matey? 😅🤣
As a biker I thought the easiest way was to stretch your leg back and put your foot over the number plate so they can't read it...
couldnt you just stop before you pass the camera, cover the plate and walk it out of view? ive always thought about if that would work
When I'm out riding and I see one of the vans I always flip them the middle finger.
This is why everyone uses Waze. Imagine that being your job 😂
@Aorus PC RiG Tard
Does waze let you know about temporary speed cameras as well?
Fizzy Purple people report them when they are sat there. Every time I’ve come across one of these speed cameras I’ve known about it well in advance.
@@LetsHaveALuke same here, that app has literally saved me so many times
Until people have to take regular eyesight tests and a practical driving test every 10 years accidents will not decrease ffs its not rocjet science
Yeah I understand that speeding kills but you can’t judge someone else’s thinking time based on your own opinion. A lot of people that drive at a faster speed watch the cars wayyyyy ahead of them to ensure they have a better reaction time.
Its that difference in speed. If you got fast reactions you're going to stop quicker at 70 but still have the same reaction time if you're driving at 90 so the difference is still the same
@Phuket Wurd your reaction time doesn't change regardless if you've got good reactions or not. If its the same person drive both at 70 and at 90 you'll still get a gap
In my experience the vast majority don’t. Speeding isn’t synonymous with good driving and often (probably more frequently) it’s the opposite.
The point I think being made in the video is that reaction times are the same irrespective of speed, meaning that a faster car will travel more distance before the reacting driver starts to apply the brakes. He’s correct of course.
@Phuket Wurd nope clearly not
Speed doesn't kill. It's stopping quickly.
As motorists we all know we shouldn't exceed the given speed limit yet we also ALL know that these camera vans are also set up deliberately at non accident spots, where the speed limit should have been raised by the powers that be but wasn't because its a nice little earner.. I wonder how Karen actually feels when she is helping this scam?
Can you explain why you want people to die at locations that have a recognised speeding before action is taken to tackle the problem?
Speed limit is not for safety. The most dangerous drivers on the motorway are often driving below 70mph and in the middle lane!
Love these type of videos - know thy enemy and all that.
Waze is your friend to notify where these are... but obviously don’t speed!
But that relies on people using their phone to report that
@@jordan4541 no it doesn’t. CarPlay....
Whats waze? does it detect mobile units
@@phillkirby a navigation app that is updated live by community, so worth having, you can mark on the map anything like objects/potholes/police/accident etc and so can anyone else using the app and it shows up for a fair amount of time so you can rely on it for everything. Definitely worth getting especially as it’s free too
google bought Waze and that functionality is in google maps too now.
Speed doesn't kill, its coming to an abrupt stop that gets you. 😂
@@U2021-k4c No, you confuse the cause of a collision with the cause of death - impact speed is most certainly the factor in a crash that determines the level of physical trauma, varying factors not withstanding. The faster you hit something, the more inertia there is that has to be dissipated.
Of course, not every collision is the same, combined with the design and build of the relevant vehicles, hence the reason why some walk away, whilst others leave on their back in a bag, or in several bags.
Up 80mph plus 80mph equals a killing speed of 160mph in a head on, only the undertaker will be laughing
Although I haven't been in and driven in the UK for 20 years now, moved to Thailand, I found this video very informative and fascinating.
Firstly, I haven't been done by the plod for speeding, but why do a lot of them sit on major dual carriageways or M-Ways doing people on what are the safest roads. The dual A64, the A3, M74 - the list goes on. And if its about safety why not put a fixed camera there?
possibly because of the chaos closing a dual carriageway/motorway causes. M8 was closed for 12 hours both east & west bound after somebody died in the crash.
A64 Malton Bypass. They are on the Bridge over the road. Motor bikes after Scarborough road races is a fantastic time for them. ££££££££££££££££££. It pays for a new camera in a day.
Speed does kill my mate took 2 ounce in 1 night & died 😁
Legend
I mean sorry for your loss
LoL
should of tried something a bit slower like Ibogaine
i can hear him in Heaven laughing at your grammar
He was right, speed doesn't kill...suddenly becoming stationary, that's what gets you.
Yes I am quoting Clarkson here but he's right :')
It's actually the severity of the sudden stop that determines the level of physical trauma, so the speed immediately prior to the impact is everything.
It's a bit like jumping out of a plane without a parachute, it's not the fall that will kill you but the sudden stop at the bottom lol
@@zyonchaos1818 No, it's hitting the ground at 150mph that kills you.
@@unleashthedragonwithin2057 twice you have failed to grasp the humour in comments, well done you!
@@zyonchaos1818 If you have to explain something is funny, then Michael McIntyre needn't be worried.
I'm a compliance officer working for a local authority. The council have a policy around the use of council vehicles that all drivers are responsible for upholding all the road rules. The vehicles are monitored for speed, acceleration/ braking, and cornering and we get a weekly report regarding our driving behaviour.
Some of my colleagues have complained that they can't drive to the road rules, particularly around speed, and I'm like, we are compliance officers, how can we expect to enforce others if we can't comply ourselves.
You didn't ask the number one question, How Do You Sleep At Night?
Mostly on my back, sometimes on my right side. You?
Anything but control the speed of your car.
I'm an advanced driver of 42 years and I have to admit that I speed everyday and jump red lights (early of course) but I still think these guys do a great job. Most people who speed are shit drivers, have no observational road reading skills, drive shit cars and just put their foot down and hope for the best. When I go out to make a journey in my car I always walk around the car to check my tyres. If I approach the car from the front I always walk around the back of the car to make sure there is no obstacle or more importantly a person behind the car. If I pull away on the road I check behind by using my mirrors but I always look over my shoulder as mirrors have blind spots. I was surprised when I had advanced driving lessons and then took my advanced test that most of the stuff I learned was just basically common sense such as, don't drive too close, slow down when it's wet or dark or both, use brakes to slow down instead of gears as you can control the vehicle more easily and safely with brakes than gears and brakes are cheaper to renew than a clutch and so on. These guys do a necessary job in areas where residents are are worried about their kids being knocked down by speeding idiots who can't drive.
@@unleashthedragonwithin2057 You’re here as a defensive voice for police staff, and what a fucking brilliant advertisement for the force you are;
Picking fights online, trying to trigger people, being cocky as fuck and instigating arguments. You’re one of those who thrive off the hate.
Bit sad, no?
And with a username like that...?
Probably a filthy rogue cop, claiming to be morally superior.
There’s a reason this comment section is 80% hate and you’re helping fan the flame.
To be fair, the Police aren’t forcing anyone to speed and everyone behind a wheel knows the rules of the road. I’ll confess to speeding occasionally but when I do I know I can’t complain if I get caught.
It’s important the speed limits are policed and there are consequences for exceeding them. Otherwise even more people than already do would drive way above their capability level and/or demonstrate poor judgement.
The reason they have a forward facing camera now is so no one pinches their front number plate and puts it on their car and then keep driving past the camera van over the speed limit lol
🤣🤣🤣 Omg I'd love to do that.
someone did that, I remember it being talked about on top gear.
Yeah I remember hearing about that one. 😂
So if I stop before I get to the van and push my bike backwards they’ll never know who I was?
Obviously but if they want to they can try looking at other cameras on the highways such as ANPRs to try finding your reg and then you’d risk getting done for trying to not get caught
Can't do you from other cameras they aren't Mi5 😅👌 it's a myth you drive past you get caught you see window open you immediately turn 90 or get back on yourself I've never once had van troubles and I ride a stunted f4i everywhere 😅🤫🤟👌
@@Jordan_ZX6R I’m in rural North Norfolk, so I’m hoping that would be unlikely. But I guess you never know.
Or don't have a plate in the first place. 👀
How far would you push your bike backwards on the A38?
Great video, very informative, my late father was an Advanced Driving Instructor for Staffordshire Police many years ago, i learnt a lot from him 🙏🏼
near Stoke on Trent a speed camera van was caught speeding by the police it was going over 70 miles per hour on a dual carriageway which is illegal for a van as they are limited to 60mph
😂Brilliant! That's made mage my day 😂
/not/ if its a 'car derived van' ie a pug partner is an 806/807 chassis
@@lezbriddon no it's to do with Max weight I believe is 2.6 ton
@@gingernutpreacher class 4 ie cars etc are up-to 3.5t. vans under 3.5 can also be class 4 but still 60mph restricted unless it's a van made from a car. 2 classes, van and car derived van. A lot of people are really caught out by this silly grey area and it should be stopped.
@@lezbriddon I'm sure I read something that says anything I've 2.6ton is not considered car derived
Imagine all the middle fingers they see per day
Why?
@@unleashthedragonwithin2057 : Because it’s never, ever about ‘road safety’, but always about maximum revenue collection.
@@frazerguest2864 Police don't see a penny from fines collected - what is the incentive?
@@unleashthedragonwithin2057 : Correct, but ‘Road Safety Partnerships’ do, and yes, they do have targets to meet.
@@frazerguest2864 No, every fine payment is sent to the Conditional Offer Unit at Southend and then on to The Treasury's Consolidated Fund. Not a penny is seen or given to police.
assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/648328/FOI2017-13509_-_Revenue_collected_in_fines_and_penalties_from_driving_offences.pdf
Please provide verifiable evidence of targets. This is the internet and such information will be easily and readily accessible.
For part 2 can you ask if the speed gun works at night time as the head light from the car would make me think it would blur/dazzle the video footage on the speed gun and if it can read spaced out number plates please
As far as I’m aware it worlds. But part two we will address the most liked comments on this video. Thanks for the input pal :)
Some police forces have been testing a new gun that works at night and are getting rolled out this year, at £1OK a pop
I am curious about that, cause I know the lasers used by stuff like speed guns operate outside the visible light spectrum, but some lights release a lot of stuff like UV light that you can't see in addition to the light you can. I doubt there's any kind of dazzle effect though, after all, lasers and visible light are very far away from eachother in wavelength I'm fairly certain.
They spend 10k of tax payers money on a camera just to steal more money off poor tax payers
@@markmawson1 from what I’ve heard they place the van where a community of people report speeding, there’s a sharp bend 5 minutes from me and many times people speed round there so the police put a camera van just after that bend
Just a quick question... does the front camera record the speed or does it just track the reg... as I was coming towards the front end of the speed van but it's camera was at the back ?? So wondering has the van caught my speed from the front camera ?.
Same situation here 😢
Did you get caught in the end?
what are the rules for officers hiding behind a bush wish gun pointing down the road?
why are they always usually placed after blind corners too?
There are no rules.
They just say the only rule is for the public to be doing the speed limit they can check the public however they like. One of the tabloids caught them getting people from a horsebox on the side of the road once in Sussex I think or Wales can't remember, all legal, sneeky, but all legal
@@bonkeydollocks1879 Yes, all legal, they can operate covertly and with no warnings.
@@unleashthedragonwithin2057 if there are no rules how come so many celebs get away with it?
@@bonkeydollocks1879 thanks.
Surely it’s a bit pointless saying that the van is painted in bright colours when they measure your speed instantly when you pop into view a kilometre away, before you even have chance to react?
At the end of the day if you break the speed limit it’s a risk that you take that you get caught, but a van can hardly be seen as a deterrent if they use that kilometre range to ambush people as they come around corners.
I guess maybe the idea of telling people 1km is so that they act as a deterrent for the whole time the van is in view. I think it depends on the copper how quickly they snap you when u come into view. I’ve come across lots of these vans speeding and managed to slow down enough all but two of the times, so I reckon they must give some leeway..
@@ciaranoloan6199 They don't go much into technique in this video, but typically they aim the laser at the point a car comes into view, to be able to take a reading instantly.
If you can see the van, it's already too late.
They do not work on motorcycles from 1km, bikes have to be 500-600 metres to get an accurate reading by which time any observant biker would have seen these revenue makers ! 😁
That's why it's a rrv
Karen the tax collector - could never morally do this job or a parking inspector - just not right. We all speed sometimes but often drop back down to the right speed when we notice it. Most people who are caught are people who have never knowingly sped in the past. If we constantly look at the speedo we would constantly have a collision.
Wonder if Karen has ever gone over 30mph in a built up area?
@@jezstokes8592 .....and the rest
@Amber Hammilton , if you find that checking your speedo regularly is so distracting perhaps you shouldn’t be driving .
@@kennethhume8628 So you you rarely check the speedo?
Amber Hammilton If you ever had to attend an RTA where a child was killed or seriously injured by a speeding vehicle there's just a possibility you might develop a more mature attitude.
Only thing worse than a Karen is Karen’s bloke lecturing me on how to drive my car ! Have a day off mate 👍🏾
The above is a lecture no-one forced you to watch. Why did you not simply turn it off?
Calm down Karen 🤦🏾♂️
@@4eyes239 There is nothing in what Karen said that indicates anything compromised her emotional composure.
They park in stupid places hiding in blind corners tucked up behind bushes or road signs also on bridge like camper vans parked up over dual carriageway in North Yorkshire ! Aswell being parked up inbetween cars at side of road no signs out etc entrapment !
A64?? Seen tonnes there by York and tadcaster
So you actively endorse speeding around blind bends? There's no requirement to deploy warning signs.
Got photos of them in a tractor and in a horse box in North Yorkshire safe to say they haven't done that again
like he said in the video, your the 1 speeding. i have been caught a few times and just suck it up. it was my fault at the end of the day
@@TheDaz2708 Which they are quite entitled to do.
Why is everything interesting, awesome and super exciting???
You sound like a year 10 interviewing his nan for a school project
He literally fucking speaks like he’s trying to reach a word count.
and says "guys", meaning perhaps those watching his video after every second sentence. Bloody irritating!
Do they feel happy in their jobs I wonder, with 95% of their role being about revenue raising. Apparently due to lock down their revenue is severely down. What a shame.
Going to be honest, id love that job.
Piece of piss, warm and dry and good pay.
@@SuPrAmAd101 Good pay? How much are they paid?
@@unleashthedragonwithin2057 enough for sitting in an air-conditioned van with their feet up haha. They will be salary based so no idea, i expect 24-28k + pension
@@SuPrAmAd101 Air conditioned - evidence please? How is the above any different or special to someone working in an office like countless other roles that provide the salary option?
@@unleashthedragonwithin2057 what do you mean “evidence”? Why have i got to prove that?
Purely for the fact someone sits in it all day is enough evidence but also the fact it has computer equipment onboard is another.
I also don’t understand your second comment, whats that got to do with anything? I said i wouldnt mind the job.. minimal work, warm, comfortable and dry. Whats not to love.
Stop with the sarcastic remarks and keep them to yourself if you’re unable to interact with other humans.
The issue with speed control is that it is taking your mind off controlling the car and observing the driving environment. When a speed camera van is seen the first thing I do is check my speed. How long does it take? Rather than having police vans maybe a better system would be to have tech built into the car to warn of overspeed or control the throttle/brake to stop you going over speed. Sat navs can do the audible warning but it needs to be upto date. Road works are difficult and the average speed assessment types are a night mare. So it makes me annoyed to have a police Sargent say no one else is to blame but you. I bet you have gone above 33 mph many times mr Sargent.
A hot spot here was hidden away on the other side of a fly over / bridge that used to coincide with a speed limit change from 60 to 40 and on a dual carriage way which was 30, but a lot of people believed it to be 40. I would 100% support zero tolerance around schools etc but it does seem that on occasions, different vans are deliberately trying to catch people out.
There is no data to support speed enforcement around schools.
@@unleashthedragonwithin2057 Moot point
It's not speeding that kills.. suddenly becoming stationary from speed is what gets you
No, it's the speed just prior to that sudden stop that determines the level of physical trauma and damage. So impact speed is a fundamental component of a collision.
@@unleashthedragonwithin2057 He never said it wasn’t. He said it’s the act of going from speed to a complete stop is what kills you, which is correct.
@@unleashthedragonwithin2057 Speed doesnt kill if you stay in control. Accidents on the autobahn are minimal yet people are zooming there 180mph on a daily basis. UK road structure is fucking trash and people cant drive because education is minimal. Thats the issue not speed...
@@waifuracer6516 agreed - it’s poor driving that kills.
Did he introduce them as "The Devil in Cornwall Police"?
Drivers speed through town centres and schools you see it daily but NO speed vans however on dual carriage ways and motorways there's always plenty and why 1000s of drivers and millions of pounds generated weekly for the treasury its got nothing to do with road safety.
If you look at other TH-cam clips that feature Devon & Cornwall speed camera vans, they are only parked in urban locations and one just metres from Notre Dame School.
Try driving in Somerset. The speed limit varies hugely between 20 M.P.H. and 60 M.P.H. and just for amusement they are changed from time to time. I spend far more time, effort and concentration trying to work out what the speed limit is than I do looking at the road. Very dangerous indeed! With all the money they must rake in from speeding fines it is no wonder the Somerset and Avon police have such big balls.
A few years back I was driving on a road I used quite a lot its very steep and downhill, there was a white van sign written like it was a builders vehicle, The back doors were wide open revealing a speed camera, it was left like that for a few hours, obviously someone realised what they were up to. I myself had got a speeding ticket on the same road prior to this and I could never remember seeing a police speed camera van. I realised as soon as I saw the ‘builders van’ that was the one that got me. Very sneaky move by the police!
Yes, there's one of those based at Camborne Police Station. Damaged wing mirror for effect.
@@fatbelly27 Devon & Cornwall do not operate from unmarked vehicles.
@@unleashthedragonwithin2057 I've seen that van subsequently. Police inside. They also have a number of unmarked cars including a Skoda Fabia estate! Be careful if you're driving in that area.
@@unleashthedragonwithin2057 It's an unmarked van with a camera at the back window (single window on one of the two rear doors). On the two occasions I've seen it it has been parked alongside areas where speeding is common. Maybe I'm putting two and two together to make five.
Nice one George, great series. I'd like to see these "community concerns" for the A30 Cornwall Services, they must get lots of concerned members of the public in this great hiding location under the bridge 😂🤷♂️
Hahaha. Not sure I’ve been there.
The kit has a range that allows speeds to be measured the instant a vehicle comes in to view. This means that the enforcement position has no bearing on anything - you've been targeted long before you've had the opportunity to move your foot from the throttle to the brake.
"Community Concerns", my Arse.
@IDazI Your vehicle's speed would be measured if it was considered your were over the set threshold. No-one mentioned or suggested otherwise.
@IDazI Show me someone who says they have NEVER driven over the speed limit, and I’ll show you a liar. Even these pigs will have gone over the speed limit at some point in their miserable lives.
Police love lawbreakers, keeps them in work, gives them purpose. Police would be defunded if crimes stopped being committed. Sociologists agree crime is useful to society. If speeding is so bad, why aren’t cars limited to 70...?
So if I’m speeding going head on with the van as long as I slow down before I pass it I should be ok?? This just happened so I’m curios to know if I’ve got a fine coming
Correct, although some vans have a flap above the windscreen they can use the camera out of!
@@NoBody-gf8ie cheers
I really enjoy slowing down relative to how close someone is behind me. They seem to get quite excited too, so everyone's a winner.
Tbh iv watched a few of these videos , some cops get a bad rep and some rightly so . This guy's actually one of the good ones ,nice to see cops engaging with the car scene . Well done 👍 top cop
There are no good cops.
For part 2 can you find out about laser jammers. asking for a friend
dont work. they will have got you by the time the jammer tell you and you react
@@ClassicTrialsChannel They do work when installed properly.
It’s called perverting the course of justice and lands people in jail.
@@ClassicTrialsChannel you have no ideal what your talking about
@@BLX187 it comes up on her screen that you have a jammer. You will the potentially face a custodial sentence.
Where I am from, you know where the cameras are as vehicles flash their lights, when they pass you in opposite direction
@@U2021-k4c in Ireland so different rules but still have cameras operated by a Spanish company
@@U2021-k4c you’re wrong all you’re doing is warning someone not to speed & break the law
@@johnodonnell7094 Maybe but flashing your lights to warn of a speed trap (because that is what they are) is also against the law.
It's white is there for you to see. That's why we hide them on bends and behind bushes etc. etc. Karen
Hide them on bends?
@Sosso Mund Who do? Evidence please.
@Sosso Mund Proof they are doing it? The clip is thirteen years old and was an operation intended to catch specific habitual motorcyclists on a certain stretch of carriageway.
@Sosso Mund You misunderstand, you stated 'Thanks for that proof they are doing it!' based upon an old clip. Yes, they resorted to extreme measures to catch specific offenders, there is nothing to suggest that this is common practice today, if it were here in the UK, it would be easily located on the internet.
One cannot prove that which doesn't exist.
@Sosso Mund Evidence please (although I have no clue what '..in Matlock also sometime back a biker put a video on here of a plain gold speed camera van in Deryshire' - means?).
Only inappropriate speed kills. Any police driver will tell you , you don’t spontaneously combust when you hit 150 mph 😇
88 and you time travel! LOL
@@kevinwyatt9771 Well that's great, can go to the pub then!
You would if you were driving my car :)
I think my car would though 🤣🤣
If you are driving from York to Scarborough you’ll see at least one of these on each leg of the journey. Beware!
Then only use arms to get there.
he thought that was 90mph when it was about 20, typical copper.
You really think they can do 90 in that short space on gravel? 😂 you really are dumb
@@EnglishDrifts69GTxRED I may be dumb but at least I understand the concept of sarcasm.
Very interesting video. Thanks for the insight. I find that using the cruise control in my car illiminates chance of speeding. It's saved me a couple of times as if I wasn't using it I'm sure my speed would've drifted up Infront of a camera van
Eliminates correct spelling.
Do you think it’s acceptable for a force to use the YELLOW light bar (on the roof) while trying to enforce speed limits on a road, which is clearly done in order to make it look like a highway maintenance/recovery van?
Anyone can use a yellow lightbar
Was doddling along around 80ish and saw one of these cash machines! No traffic in-front and clear road. High performance vehicle and was on eco cruise control. Lets wait and see now!
Waiting for the video about all the technology, strategy and techniques they use when your 20 grand motorbike is stolen. Oh wait, there is none. They just give you a crime number with a ‘what did you expect’ shrug.
Which is nothing to do with the above.
@@unleashthedragonwithin2057 what he's getting at is they are quick to give out speeding tickets when they are handed speeding drivers on a plate but when it involves investigation of an expensive item stolen they have no interest cause it means they will have to do some work.
@@eugbrat The above is specialist police staff, not a regular officer so she can do nothing about things being stolen. This frees us regular officers to do just that.
Or like when your pushbike gets nicked from the front of a Hospital and Police say they’ll check CCTV. But then tell you that due to too much footfall they couldn’t pinpoint the time of the crime etc...
I bet they tell this to everyone who’s CCTV footage they can’t be arsed viewing.
@@unleashthedragonwithin2057 like the time my bike was stolen from my shed and all I got was a crime number and not even a visit from the police or shed checked for finger prints. Sorry but some us have been wronged and have little faith in police
So many times I’ve seen 2 vans within miles of each other on the A50! Money grabbing A holes 🤬🤬🤬 Waze is a saviour!!!
There must be a significant speeding problem then on the A50.
@@unleashthedragonwithin2057 or two bridges that are out of site until it’s to late...
@@bensmith4666 Too late for what?
@@unleashthedragonwithin2057 to bake a cake and send it to your mother.
@@bensmith4666 Can you recommend a good medium, my mother passed away decades ago?
I think I know her and her name is Karen Karen.
That’s not her full name. She has a middle name as well. It’s Karen.
@@drybiscuit Sorry but you're wrong, her middle name is double barreled.
@@dodoubledragon Dammit....She's Karen Karen-Karen Karen.
Does the camera van flap open or closed? If you get caught speeding?
So to conclude you can floor it when you are 20metres from the van 🤣
19 just to be on the safe side 👍🏻
My mind will never change on these. Hate them with a passion
Speeding motorists?
I'm agree, speeding motorists really are ignorant tw#ts
Speaking of tw@s! are you two police of the comments in this video?
@@eugbrat can guarantee they are the people who pull out on you and then drive 20 under the limit
@@eugbrat ? wtf, what sort of indecipherable drivel is that?
Never ever seen one of these anywhere near a travellers site. I wonder why???.
Obvious because it would get stolen
Revenue razing craziness, what about compounding Parallax error? Hello!
Huh?
Obviously its a bloody Karen 😂
Speeding really isn’t the issue here, It’s the way that people are taught to drive. Our driving test are just too simple and do not show you how to control a vehicle, in any situation. Unlike some counties where you’re taught on how to correct skids, loss of traction, etc, etc. One can simply drive around for 45 mins and park or reverse around a corner and then pass. Our driving standards need to be improved and the test needs an overhaul. A lot has changed over the last 20/30 in regard to driving but that tests have remained the same.
Agreed as I'm an instructor my self most instructors haven't even experienced proper car control them selves never gone above 71mph 😂😂😂
Agree, I was fortunate enough to have a wonderful Dad who taught me to drive off road as a child so that all I had to do was have lessons on how to pass the test. I learned in 4WD, 3 speed column change and four speed floor change depending on which vehicle he wanted to take out. He taught me to tow trailers and caravans; and trucks. He taught me to drive in convoy and high speed driving, mud, gravel, snow the lot. He taught me about vehicle and road conditions and the differences they made. Also taught me how cars worked (I then became a mechanic and welder too). We loved to go out driving together and I will be forever grateful to him. Now I'm almost 62 but with the same passion for driving.
Agree 100% that's why there ripping all the roundabouts out and putting traffic lights in or adding traffic lights to roundabouts...
I used to go round 5 roundabouts to get to work, now I go though 8 sets of traffic lights and I have to set off for work 10 mins earlier then I used to 🤦🏻♂️
The amount of people that don't know how to correctly use a roundabout is shocking....
@@gaz7097 tell me about it but have u realised how dangerous it is when coming off a roundabout and the lights are red everyone has to stop higher chance of being rear ended.
@@Muss786g have you noticed nobody looks to the right when entering a roundabout if there's a traffic light. most people don't look when there's traffic lights in general they just stare at the light and go when it turns green totally oblivious to anything else.
I see so many people driving badly or making mistakes and other people adjusting around them to avoid an accident but they have no idea that they are doing anything wrong because they don't see it themselves.
I've beeped at a few cars that have cut me up and if I didn't react would have caused an accident. then you get that vacant look.. and you know they have no idea why you beeped them 🤷🏻♂️
so another reason why front plates aren't needed... 360 cam
Thank you for this video, much appreciated!
another karen how many is there we are not short of em thats for sure.
Don't agree with them but that was very interesting and great to see the police being quite open about how it operates.
How serious is the extra 35ft? What’s more dangerous a driver doing 70 and j day dreaming or someone doing 90 focusing and looking far ahead for possible problems. It’s not as simple as extra thinking time, when people speed they tend to be more focused.
100%
Unless they are texting.
@@unleashthedragonwithin2057 haha great input bro genius, my point definitely wasn’t people who speed tend to be more focused and plan ahead, the people doing the speed limit tend to get a bit lazy with reactions and tbf are the ones more likely to be on their phone.
No mention of calibrating the camera before use. How do we know that it isn't faulty. Should be calibrated every time it is used.
No they’re calibrated annually it’s carried out by Laser Tech uk (based in Warwick) they are the uk supplier of the equipment, there are distances and speed checks done daily but this is not calibration.
What would be the point of having a dated calibration certificate issued at the time of calibration, if it had to be done every day?
Great series, can tell your police friend is a lot more comfortable on camera. More content like this series defo although into the mods aswell for sure!!
What about spacing on number plates. So the camera can still see number plates so why does spacing really matter. Even ampr cameras still see them as my friend got see by one and he has it spaced out
If you're number plate has been altered so that ANPR/Speed Cameras can't read it........ imagine if you're car got stolen 🤔
@@littledtraining5387 most car thief’s will swap the plates for a car that isn’t reported stolen and by then your car is either stripped down or on a boat
@@leweee you're absolutely right.
And yet people still whine that the Feds "ain't done nofink"
Karen, let’s see how many times I can say the phrase “so basically”
Hadn’t picked that up to be honest .
My favourite Police speak is “ At this moment in time “ , ie now.
An honourable mention please for Priti Patel and “ the facts of the matter “ which she says so often it’s laughable.
So yeah, no, basically...blather blather!
No; it’s.......”So basically” Get it right.
@@willbee6785 true..have edited accordingly 👍
I can see you have the large rear window fully open. Is this always the case ? Iv seen vans with a small opening in each window (say 10cm x 30cm) can they get you through this gap ?
If the gap was too small, they'd probably notice when the kit didn't work?
Regardless of whether they are hiding behind a bush, under a bridge or round a blind corner.. the fact still remains... if YOU don't speed you will never get caught.
Even if it was a money making scheme... the fact still remains... don't speed and you won't get caught.
Police don't set the speed limits they just enforce them. Aim your anger at transport minister etc.
As the officer said... you are in control and so if youre caught speeding the only person to blame is you!!!
Well said. Agreed fully. 🇬🇧
Sounds like the condescending 💩 they say on a speed awareness course.
@@uktech Lol... I'm guessing you got caught then.
People generally don't like being told how it is and prefer things sugar coated.
If they are money making schemes wouldn't it be awesome if no-one sped and they made 0!!
Wouldn't that be sticking it to the Gov?
Anyways I agree with the concept of speed cameras, I'm just not sold on how they are currently used
Should of asked the question if they operate at night mate good knowledgeable video this 👍🏻
You can always test whether they operate at night.
More cameras than logitech
Last sunday, a camera van 800mtrs from a major sliproad had no warning signs that the van was there would that be a legal to get a ticket?
Yes, the people were still speeding regardless of where the van was and they don’t have to put signs out 👍🏻
The thing i hate the most is when the Camera Van is parked half on the pavement meaning you have to walk around it in the road. If that was a normal driver - they would get done for it.
I have seen this locally near a primary school , watching a woman with a pushchair and two kids having to step out from behind it into the road - all whilst the van is trying to catch people speeding past the school.
Any supporting evidence?