Remember the $35,000 car Tesla talked about in 2018 and then was criticized for not producing? The 2024 Model 3 costs $39,000. Adjusted for inflation, that'd be $31,350 in 2018. Price mark beaten and it's an incredible value when the you consider all the features.
Yeah yeah sure you have, but for 39k? This model 3 I'm sure is inferior in some respects to other cars, but I guarantee there isn't a single better car at this price point @@JohnnyZenith
Especially compared to previous model 3. It actually drives much more like my 2008 BMW 328 coupe. Comfortable over bumps but you can lean on it in the curves. Tesla really caught up to the germans on ride quality with this one
This makes up for Sandy's rather simple (good/bad), emotionally binary (total joy, total disaster) and untechnical (hardly uses technical terms) lingo.
Yep. 'All these interfaces make a symphony of closures'. That's engineering poetry you only get when you couple craftmanship with love. Like Robert Pirsig pointed out in 1974.
@@PazLeBon That’s a matter of opinion. The CT bed is as big as any other truck. If you need more volume, get a truck top as you would for any other truck.
As an ex acoustic engineer, you want the glass panes in a laminated window to be different thicknesses. That ensures coincidence regions don't overlap when it comes to noise transmission loss through the glass.
I’m so darn impressed with this upgrade. The Model 3 is already the best car I’ve ever owned- this is a huge evolution, so an amazing car just got even better ❤❤❤
I’ve owned my Model 3 for 6 years put 105,000 miles on it and in 55 years of driving, it’s the best car I’ve ever owned. There has been no major detractions for me , just slight ones like occasionally having to open the app before unlocking or the sports suspension on a rough road or the front end which I was never a total fan of. The Highland has addressed every aspect of things I would have changed, I cannot wait for the new Performance model to come out.
This is gorgeous. Extremely fast, quiet, refined, comfortable. I thought it was very fun to drive. I love the minimalism, tech , stalkless design. I ordered the M3 LR stealth grey black interior beginning of February. Now today I got my VIN!! Should be ready in a week🎉🎉 super excited my first EV.
Congratulations! I one of the folks that stood in line & put down my $1k deposit before Elon introduced the m3 to the world. I have had mine for 5 years 7 months & have been very pleased with my early model & had been one of the best cars o have ever owned! Realible, fun to drive, low maintenance. I bought it with everything possible $57k & added FSD for 3 K. I will never go back to a ICE car.
@@edornelas8275 thank you for that. Your experience puts me at ease as this is my first EV and not knowing what to expect. Everyone I speak to love their Teslas and would never go back to another car. I have a feeling I will only buy a Tesla from now on
I only had to drive the refreshed Model 3 a mile to know I was going to buy one to replace my current Model 3. I ordered one the moment I got back from the test drive. There is nothing at this price point that can touch it. It is now a real luxury car with premium materials everywhere.
@@dwylhq874 - I have a 2019 Model 3 SR+, I also have a 2021 Model Y. The refreshed Model 3 is better in every conceivable way, quiter, smoother, redesigned interior made with more premium materials, more aerodynamic (which results in greater range), sleeker styling, adaptive headlights which were just approved in the US and will be implemented soon, V4 computer, higher resolution cameras, ventilated seats, glass roof reflects more heat... I could go on.
These are the kind of video I come here for. I wish you'd stop all the other noise videos you're doing these days, but these are still as great as they ever were.
Sandy and Jordan-excellent together. They are engineers who just come across as knowledgeable, smart, and normal. They are not nerdy nor un-relatable. Thanks to both for taking some of their valuable time for the interesting discussion!
17:19- no issue. Lars has said that they took a look at their very good crash data and discovered a way to make the cars even more safe based on how crashes actually happen to their cars in the real world, not just guessing based on official crash tests.
The trunk lid wiring harness change is sutely related to NHTSA 21V00D000 recall recarding an issue where repeated opening abd closing would stretch the wiring harness and cause reliability issues with the backup camera. Something I hope they fixed that I haven't seen covered is water ingress into the cabin air intake under the frunk lid. Water running down th windshield/firewall drainage channel would splash into the tube feeding the condenser due to a suctioning effect, causing smells to form around the cabin filters. I've heard the side impact standards are changing in the next couple years so they took advantage of the refresh to implement the structural change to get ahead of the test.
There's a couple of YT videos on how to fix the water ingress problem yourself. I know Tesla ought to, but all cars have annoyances built in that are never addressed by the manufacturers...
This is the first time that I have seen the ‘hook’ on the bottom edge of the door. Without fanfare Tesla has also introduced midline airbags to protect passengers and drivers from colliding with each other in a side impact. Project Highland was no ordinary mid life face lift. The Model 3 was already one of the world’s safest cars but the Tesla team took the time, effort and cost to improve upon it.
Maybe the model 2 will be a hatchback design for the EU and Spainish market's where small hatches sell very well? And yes with how well wagons sell overseas and the upcoming+on sale ev wagons already out? Tesla would do well imo to offer an eu&China only wagon variant of the 3. 👍🏻 Just like they recently offered a 2 seater model Y cargo edition for France only sales!
Washer bottle placement is definitely (at least in part) for consumer convenience. I have an older Model 3 and it's a bit tricky to get washer fluid in with some of the bottle geometries you can buy without some spillage. Happy to see that they moved it.
Top speed has been reduced, suspension geometry and dampening also changed. So for most normal driving, it will probably feel a bit more plush and smooth, while still being quite nimble. Get above 120mph and the differences will become more apparent. The older 3's stiffer suspension and dampening will feel much better in this scenario. Not a common one though, and I imagine Tesla is ok with a step away from the performance as they will more than make up for it with the, uh, performance model. So handles better? For most people, most of the time, probably.
From what I've gathered elsewhere (haven't driven it yet), the suspension is a bit softer than the old Model 3 (less firm) and so the handling is not quite as sharp, but still very good. For most people that's probably a good compromise - one of the complaints with Model 3 and Model Y was that the suspension is a bit too firm and harsh over bumps etc. Lars also talked about tuning the frequency of the damping to better absorb bumps, while maintaining handling and steering feel etc. While the standard models are a bit softer to cater for the masses, it seems to me that they are doing a lot more work to differentiate the Performance version with this new Model 3. I suspect the Performance model will be a lot more focused for those who want a sportier drive and handling.
Absolutely the suspension is much softer and more compliant on the new car. This is likely going to be an improvement for most customers since most people aren't pushing the car past 100mph frequently. Tesla is likely saving the high level performance experience for the performance trim coming in a few months. I suspect it's suspension will be much more sporty.
not really. The older one was sportier, faster, more responsive and the 2024 highland has problems with a bouncing tail once you drive faster. They've softened it a little bit to much. But you can improve that by correcting the geometry a little bit. Other than that it is a big improvement over the existing model 3. I've got both at home. 2024 M3 LR and 2022 M3 LR. Former MS90D driver for over 7 years :) Just the indicator thing is a deal breaker for many drivers in EU due to roundabouts. But I got used to it fastly.
I am driving a Volvo and a Tesla model 3 2024, and I truly love the Tesla a lot. One thing I am struggling with to get used to and FIND is the indicator lights buttons on the steering wheel while driving around roundabouts and the steering wheel is upside down and rotating 😅 Really funny hearing Sandy imitating engineers fighting over inches, I am an engineer and been there so many times 😂😅
I know the biggest fans will yell at me for thinking the lack of stalks is a dumb idea. I'm sure you can get used to it just like I got used to not having a driver HUD, but I really like operating the stalks. Being able to maneuver in and out of the drive way, especially with multi point turns has got to be so much better. Otherwise I really like this update, but I'm still going to keep my 2021 as long as I can. Stalks + US sensors is really nice. If they added a bumper cam up there, I could deal with no US. I gotta get less than a foot from the front of my garage, and the accuracy of those US sensors are awesome.
Same. Ultrasonics allowed for good park assist, plus I actually hate the removal of stalks but lke the new interior. I have to pick used with US and stalks or new with updated interior.
Agreed. Removing the stalks without steer by wire is a really bad idea compromising security. Removing the US sensors without an appropriate camera suite to see in 360 and objects right in front of the car is also a really bad idea. It cannot function reliably even with the best AI FSD software. And for me removing the warm natural touch of the wooden dash and replacing it with a cold soulless LED light is also a really bad idea - though it is more subjective. Hopefully there will be some aftermarket wooden dashes in the Highland format. After turning off the LED lights I could feel home again with that.
The lack of stalks was a deal breaker for me. The turn signal buttons are extremely frustrating to use in tight roundabouts, which is what we tend to use instead of intersections here in Europe.. I had my mind set on buying the highland, but changed my mind after test driving it. I've previously driven a model S with the same setup, and utterly hated it.
@@FireWalkMusic I'd keep an eye out for companies that have an aftermarket stalk kit, I heard that might wind up happening but have yet to see any. You would think that once the FSD gets good enough it would know that you are still turning and in a roundabout and then keep the turning sensors on someday down the road.
@@FireWalkMusic I drive the Highland in Europe for 3 weeks. I completely got adapted to it on the roundabouts. On a sharp roundabout, you just press on the lower button on the right side. For me it is easier than with stocks. If you only have driven the Highland for half an hour. I can understand the frustration, but your muscle memory learns fast. I had BMW's in the past and a Model 3 AWD. The Highland Model 3 RWD I have is just incredible to drive, and what a difference compared to the previous Model 3. Also the efficiency is that good, that it has slightly longer range than my previous long range.
I have a CT dual motor on order... ... but after the M3 reviews... I may just go with the car. Either way, Tesla is def crushing it. Thank you Elon, the Tesla team... and of course Munro and Co..
For 2023 I noticed Tesla has two lamination strategies on the front of the Model Y depending on supplier. One has equal thickness and the other has one thick and one thin. I compared two model Ys with two different glass suppliers. It was a while ago so I forgot the name. I think it was American Glass Company and Saint Gobain.
It's probably a factor but like they said plumbing and or relocation of the reservoir is an arduous task and I don't know they would commit to it without other benefits besides improved customer input.
I've read and seen mention of Tesla planning to add a HEPA filter to the model 3. In that case, they would need every cubic inch of space that they can free up in that area; and moving the wiper fluid bottle makes sense.
The new shocks are (Koni) FSD (frequency sensitive dampeners). According to a Tesla engineer on Jay Leno's Garage. They have two sets of piston vales one for high HZ and an other for normal dampening. I put them on my Mini Cooper S and they worked wonderfully.
They didn’t mention the better looking front bumper the wraps around without the ugly flat middle from the first iteration. It really does make it a great looking car.
I actually didn't mind the old look but I have to agree that this new one looks so much better. I saw the performance front end leak which is an amalgamation of the previous with the new front end and I think a lot of people will really like it.
Indeed. It's very unpractical to use here in the EU where there are tight roundabouts everywhere. I really can't stand it. The car just lost it's five star Euro NCAP safety rating because of this. Not surprised, because it forces you to constantly take your eyes off the road in a critical situation to look down at the wheel to figure out where the buttons are before you can actually use them. Really stupid design for EU roads. It probably works well in the US though, where they'll be able to engage the turn signals before they actually start turning the wheel 99,9% of the time since they mostly use intersections instead of roundabouts like the EU.
Yet they have no problem forcing you to look down at your speed every 3 seconds to avoid “speeding” rather than just letting you be engaged with the road and drive how you see fit. So it’s a BS argument.
@@BlaineRush-b8h You don't have to look down to check your speed every 3 seconds. You can just enable cruise control or drive at a steady speed. Checking your speed is optional. In a roundabout however it's different, because it's a situation that forces you to use the turn signals, and you then HAVE to look down, taking your eyes off the road in a critical situation with cars all around you. Either that or just not use the turn signals at all. Neither is safe. This is why Euro NCAP is revoking their flawless 5 star safety rating. It's a bad design! Done purely for cost cutting purposes. Norwegian driving schools have already started banning the tesla model 3 because they say it's distracting and unsafe, and that they can't have a car that causes their students to fail their test in roundabouts. I've used this for a while in the new model S, and I've also tried the new model 3 (it's the same system) and it really is a distraction in tight roundabouts. Even when you manage to find the button, it's way too easy to press the wrong one, and they are also not as responsive as they should have been, so oftentime it doens't even engange. It's quite frustrating to use to be honest.
As a model Y owner I can easily hear the sloshing of the windshield wiper fluid when it is about half full. I wonder if noise is a concern and a major reason they moved the windshield wiper fluid bottle.
It's quite a bit more expensive, so it might come to the S/X at some point, but maybe not. Unlikely to appear in the 3/Y. It also relies in part on the 48V system, and Tesla has already stated they have no current plans to retrofit 48V into existing models which would be a major impediment.
Maybe you have not so much roundabouts in the US, but here in Norway and the rest of Europe we have a lot of them. Using buttons on the steeringwheel instead of a stick at the steering collom is a pain in the A.. when you drive into a town with only roundabouts instead of level crossings. And in town you have roundabouts every few hundred meter of all sizes. Try to press the right button to signal right when you take a small roundabout and your steeringwheel is 130 degrees turned upsidedown in a fraction of a second........ Removing the turnsignal stick is a big mistake and is a safety issue in my opinion.
There are lots of roundabouts in the US and more being added every day. No one, and I mean no one. Use is there a turn signal in a roundabout, and there’s really no reason to unless they’re multi lane roundabouts. Most of them in my area are single lane wear a turn signal is not important.
@rvo8915 When you're on a roundabout with 130° lock on, it's not the kind of roundabout you indicate to leave. . You indicate left (in your case) *as you approach* The time between the "previous exit and yours is so small, you don't have time to indicate right, and anyway everyone saw you indicate as you approached(?) . On a LARGER (multi lane?) roundabout, you're not applying that angle of steering.
We have roundabouts here, and I've never had a problem signaling my exit. It's less difficult with wheel buttons than when your hands are at 12 and 6 in the turn and having to let go with one hand to get to that turn signal stalk. Now if you take a roundabout at 80 mph, yes you need to really wrap the wheel to make a turn and any type of turn signal is going to be difficult. Fortunately, few drive roundabouts at high speed and live to talk about it.
Tesla is the best car company ever! No gas stations, No oil changes, No smog check, No corrupt dealership, No catalytic converter and as fast as a $650,000 Lamborghini.
@@marcinmerrimack1726Naw, you just upset 'cause he's 100% right. I dislike Elon but absolutely love Tesla and engineering teams behind it. You're not getting such an EV for the money anytime soon.
@@budgetaudiophilelife-long5461 Exactly! the whole Detroit area is one giant test track of poor roads. Fun trivia: when scientists discovered that the dinosaurs went extinct due to a massive asteroid, they first looked for the crater on Detroit area roads.
THANKS ERIC ,FOR ENLIGHTENING US…PUTTING THE LIGHT 💡 WHERE WE COULD SEE… I also love ❤️ the cleaner, smoother, simpler lines, and features ,THANKFUL SUE SUGGESTED IT🤗💚💚💚
From an engineering standpoint this car seems to be a great leap in evolution. However I found the wooden interior in my M3 much warmer and closer to nature, than a cold LED light would ever be able to produce as a feeling and atmosphere in the car. Hopefully they will at least allow to regulate the strength of the light (instead of just turning it on and off), to make it less disturbing at night.
yeah as long as you only drive lane by lane in the US it's easy. But with all the roundabouts in other countries it gets a little bit annyoing.. still you can live with it :)
Well maybe they are good at asking customers what they need but it also depends which customers they asked. I bet they did not ask those in cities with a lot of roundabouts. Good luck using buttons on the wheels on roundabouts of different sizes. Got a lot of new small ones recenlty in my city in Poland and have hard time thinking how I would use those buttons on them.
Your thoughts on the imminent update to the Model Y (Juniper)… The Cybertruck now has steer-by-wire, the updated Model 3 has deleted the indicator stalks, do you think it’s possible that the New Model Y could arrive with steer-by-wire?
Unlikley to have steer-by-wire. Quite a bit more costly, and less need in a lighter car like the Y. Still, it would be cool! Also, Tesla has said Juniper is not imminent - expected next year.
Excellent report. I own a 2021 Model 3 and test drove the 2024. Big improvements in ride quality, and noise reduction. One point, the heat exchanger at the front of the car will get cold in the winter, and hot in the summer, so it's not going to heat the windshield washer fluid in the winter. It's a heat pump. In the winter the hot side heats the interior and the cold side would be the front heat exchanger.
Regarding the rear hinge on the trunk and the change in the wiring harness ... there had indeed been issues on the previous version and had been the subject of a recall to provide more protection. This will be the reason for the re-design. The reason for the washer bottle relocation is so you don't spill so much ... and in the previous location that spillage could drip onto wiring loom connections.
@@gmv0553Silverado EV dosen't even EXIST for consumers yet. Range is honestly impressive considering the cells are 4680 on all models. Same for charging curve, better than MY 4680.
This is the first time I ever felt like Sandy being biased! To me buy a model s if you want a softer ride. The model 3’s benchmark was a BMW, not everyone wants or needs a soft ride. The stalks are more desired than they aren’t for most drivers. The buttons don’t function in real life as well as the tried and true stalks, something don’t need to be fixed or replaced. All in all, like BMW, Mercedes, if you want a plusher ride, by a 7 series or s class, if you want a more sporting experience you by a 3 series, or a c series, Now I understand that Tesla doesn’t yet have a middle experience vehicle like the 5 series or the e class, and that the model 3 kinda fits both categories to a degree, so I suppose as I’m typing that maybe sandy is correct after all with the softer ride as a compliment to the platform, and perhaps the performance model is where Tesla can continue to give those of us who specifically purchased the model 3 as the Electric 3 series competitor it is.
Removing the stalks probably works well in the US, but not in the EU! We tend to use tight roundabouts everywhere instead of intersections, so we constantly have to operate the turn signals while turning the wheel, and you end up having to constantly take your eyes off the road to look down at he wheel to figure out where the buttons are before you can use them, which is also why the model 3 is losing it's 5 star Euro NCAP safety rating. It's a distraction! Norwegian driving schools are even banning the new model 3 now because they say it causes their students to fail their test in roundabouts... No problem in the US though, where you can activate the turn signals with the wheel straight 99,9% of the time. But try operating the buttons while doing some U-turns and you'll understand why this is a pain in the ass to use in Europe. It's unpractical and unsafe, and for me it became a deal breaker unfortunately, because it's just so damn annoying to use when there are tight roundabouts all over the place.
getting rid of the stalks results in turning the wipers on in one spot & changing their speed in another. A dumb idea. Bring back the stalk or put a wiper switch with speed control on the dash.
Hot hatches are definitely doing a come back in Europe & I'm seeing N Americans asking for them too (feeling like Rivian got more interest for their R3 than their R2 but I could be wrong).
Turn signals are required for roundabouts (you may signal left at entering when leaving at the last exit and always right by leaving any exit - at least In Europe) and then having the switch on the steering wheel makes it almost impossible. You always know where the stalk for turning light is. Having steering by wire that would not require you to move your hands and then getting rid of the stalk seems OK.
My wife looked at me as if I was talking a foreign language when I referred to our car's front bumper as front fascia. Tell me you've watched too much Munro Live, without telling me you've watched too much Munro live 😅. Great video guys and can't wait to get a refreshed Model 3/Y.
@ChristinePerkins-yt7ie not yet! Got a Model Y currently. Was hoping its refresh would follow soon, as I prefer the Y's size. If that takes too long, I'm definitely going to take the new 3 for a spin
I drove this car yesterday. I was very impressed by how quiet and responsive it was. I liked the autopilot but didn't have the opportunity to use the FSD. I scheduled a test drive at a local charging station, where the Tesla Model 3 was just sitting there waiting for people to drive it. I am now seriously thinking about getting the 3 or the Y model., lets see what happens.
@@TheLastMoccasin In the interview with Jay Leno, Lars said that there wasn't enough room for two rear motors, so I doubt there will be a tri-motor version. From the various 'rumours' it does look like the rear motor will have a nice boost in power though and Tesla seem to be doing a lot more work to differentiate the Performance model this time around. Look forward to seeing what changes they've made.
9:09 they did have an issue with pinching on some 2018/19 Model 3's that took out the back camera. They did a recall a few years ago and fixed the ones that were problematic (neither of ours were). So I assume these changes are to alleviate any chance of that.
Thank you for your excellent content. Always a pleasure when Sandy is on and share a lifetime of experience and knowledge. We all love "the old fart"! 👍🏻
The missing stalk for the turn signal is actually a big problem for us in Europe. Not being able to find and hit the right button in the tremendeous amounts of roundabouts on our streets is really a security relevant issue. One agency has just decided to give penalty points on the security rating if no easy physical input is possible for basic driving related functions. We will see how Tesla reacts when they lose their 5 star rating because of this in Europe.
I am also living in Europe (Sweden) and the removal of stalks is a dealbreaker for me. How is the response from rental firms? I guess they have a need for cars that a customer instantly can feel accustomed to. I guess the removal of stalks will hurt fleet sales to rental firms.
@@stallis2009 True. But unfortunately car rentals like Hertz are dumping their EV and Tesla fleet already because of the depreciation issue. The missing stalk is just another argument to feel good with their decision.
I had decided to get the model 3 highland, but changed my mind after trying it, for one simple reason: The lack of stalks. Those turn signal buttons on the steering wheel are extremely frustrating to use in tight roundabouts, which are everywhere here in the EU. It became a deal breaker for me.
No doubt about it, it’s a fantastic upgrade to my 2021 GigaShanghai build, though that one was already a very nice EV. This is truly German beating for comfort performance and ease of driving, finally incredible value.
Talking about the wipers, Citroen CX designed in 1970s was a saloon with shallow angle rear window. The glass had a concave curve which used the air stream to sweep water away. No wiper needed.
Thanks Sandy and team, always respect your opinions. Is the new model 3 2 cast piecing like the model Y? Can’t wait for the tear down of the Model 3 (hopefully the performance model) and the cyber truck. ⚡️😎
Jordan, looking at the old Model 3 IIHS side impact rating it was the top rating so as you suggested it is perhaps a change related to battery pack design.
Hey Munro people!! Love you vids guys/gals. You have great feed back, BUT, I dont think all your opinions are of my thought. My 23' M3P got hit and totaled after 9 months. That was December 7. I waited for the 24' to release, only to find out the M3LR only had a 125mph top speed. This is totally unacceptable. And getting rid of the Fog lights on the LR is unacceptable as well. Those are the only two things That kept me from getting a 24' M3LR. I instead choose to get a 21' M3P with the 162mph top speed and those LED fog lights. Two small things to you, BUT HUGE deal breakers for me. I couldn't wait for the 24' M3P to come out. I needed another car now. Also, I like the door handles. I don't want buttons for door handles.
@@jamesengland7461 yeah, my Tesla M3P is my slow car, but great for a daily. I have 800hp-1000hp cars on the side. So, I like speed. I prly do 130 everyday. And once a week almost top it out, 162mph. Fun is Fun. I should note, I work second shift, roads are wide open when I go home. Lots of people like to race.
Sandy, I'm 99% sure they moved the washer fluid bottle forward because of the extra space needed for the revised suspension. If you locate the bottle on the outgoing Model 3, you'll see the proximity to the top of the suspension mount. The revised suspension takes a bit more room.
I've seen some beta test drives of the new FSD 12 where they said the functionality of the auto-wiper system was getting a drastic improvement but I'm not sure if this improvement was tied to FSD.
I`m a car guy meaning I have owned over 75 cars and not an engineer . Everything that you have focused on seems to be a big improvement and i`m so happy to see the fish faced bumper cover gone this car is such a huge improvement I would love to drive this , the one thing I can`t stand is noise and the previous design was very noisy . I`m hoping the juniper Y becomes a reality . Thanks guys !
Interesting points, but I would like to point out some things You may not have realised due to living in a warm climate. The rear lights have had a lot of warranty cases due to moisture building up inside them. I bet the new lights have a larger internal volume, which may have an affect in resolving this issue. Also as for only having push buttons on the doors, that does not work when doors are frozen shut. There needs to be a good lever to actually get the doors open in all conditions. I dont like those recessed handles on my Model Y, but at least they can be used to really pull the door open even if its frozen. Unless the handles them selves have also frozen shut, which seems to happen to some users. Also the washer bottle location is a poor choice on Model Y and old Model 3. If you miss anything pouring it in, it will spill in the frunk. Its also difficult to pour anything in from a full big container, as you cant get it anywhere close the hole. When its in the front, you can lower the bottom of the container in front of the bumper and get a lot closer to the hole when pouring. And as for the blinkers and drive mode stalls missing, that is a deal breaker for many buyers, me included. I might learn to live with the blinker buttons, but drive modes being guessed by the car will not work reliably in snowy conditions and having to swipe the screen to change directions is just stupid. EU is currently looking in to changing some regulations to actually force manufacturers have certain things be operated without a touch screen. I think this is a good thing. All things that the driver needs to interact with during driving should be operable without taking eyes off the road. For an example radio control is not essential and can be on the touch screen, but drive modes, wiper speeds, lights and things like these need to be operable without eyesight. Tesla is currently moving in the wrong direction, claiming its for usability, when in reality they are just cutting manufacturing costs.
There is a simple solution to adding washer fluid, Use A Funnel! I love the simplicity that Tesla engineers build into their cars. These things take getting used to, but after a while, you don’t wanna go back to the old way.
@@joehowe9532 Yes I have one too, but then again, my 20 years old Toyota has abuilt in funnel in the washer fluid hole that I can pull out when adding washer fluid. Why does Tesla not have one? Anyways, that new location for the hole is better than before considering usability.
Remember the $35,000 car Tesla talked about in 2018 and then was criticized for not producing? The 2024 Model 3 costs $39,000. Adjusted for inflation, that'd be $31,350 in 2018. Price mark beaten and it's an incredible value when the you consider all the features.
+ it's a much better product than what was presented in 2018. So they made it cheaper and better than originally stated
Good point.
I bought my 2020 model three SR for 36k (I added white seats).
Too bad my income only inflated like 1%
in February 2024 , the Tesla model Y was selling for $35,000.
I drove this today and it’s the best driving car I’ve ever driven. Silent, precise, dampened over bumps. Impressive engineering.
I've driven superior many times.
Yeah yeah sure you have, but for 39k? This model 3 I'm sure is inferior in some respects to other cars, but I guarantee there isn't a single better car at this price point @@JohnnyZenith
@@spacebound1969especially an EV with almost maintenance, sure bmw might be little better but will cost $10k+ more.
@@JohnnyZenithwhat have you driven Johnny?
Especially compared to previous model 3. It actually drives much more like my 2008 BMW 328 coupe. Comfortable over bumps but you can lean on it in the curves. Tesla really caught up to the germans on ride quality with this one
I am always impressed with how well Jordan describes things. He is very well spoken.
Yes he is well informed and nice humble guy. Keep it up guys
This makes up for Sandy's rather simple (good/bad), emotionally binary (total joy, total disaster) and untechnical (hardly uses technical terms) lingo.
Yep. 'All these interfaces make a symphony of closures'. That's engineering poetry you only get when you couple craftmanship with love. Like Robert Pirsig pointed out in 1974.
Yeah. Jordan is great.
Jordan should've been the Dr facto Cory replacement imo. 👍🏻
Maybe Boeing needs to hire Munro Associates to do an investigation of Boeing's quality control procedures.
Their money is spent on lobbyist to ensure regulations to allow them to do what they do.
Boeing has cultural and management problems. (the recent door plug ejection wasn't a design problem but a maintenance quality problem, missing bolts)
Better not. In the end he will end up like John Barnett.
Don't work with criminals.
😂😂
Missing parts and even they taking scrap parts from bins
I cannot wait for the Cybertruck tear down!
Will most likely be the highest viewed series to date. Bring on the Cybertruck!
Hoisted up already!!
rather see a garbage truck tbh, similar look but more use cases and can carry more
@@PazLeBon That’s a matter of opinion. The CT bed is as big as any other truck. If you need more volume, get a truck top as you would for any other truck.
@@Dave5843-d9m lol it obviously is not as big as a gargage truck mate, but it kinda looks like one, just stupid :)
As an ex acoustic engineer, you want the glass panes in a laminated window to be different thicknesses. That ensures coincidence regions don't overlap when it comes to noise transmission loss through the glass.
Like a ray of light that gets refracted through water, if you have two density liquids it be more effective
Thanks to the video editors and cutters to include images of details in the previous model. I liked this visual reference a lot.
I’m so darn impressed with this upgrade. The Model 3 is already the best car I’ve ever owned- this is a huge evolution, so an amazing car just got even better ❤❤❤
I’ve owned my Model 3 for 6 years put 105,000 miles on it and in 55 years of driving, it’s the best car I’ve ever owned. There has been no major detractions for me , just slight ones like occasionally having to open the app before unlocking or the sports suspension on a rough road or the front end which I was never a total fan of. The Highland has addressed every aspect of things I would have changed, I cannot wait for the new Performance model to come out.
Get a date and have sex for the first time, kid.
This is gorgeous. Extremely fast, quiet, refined, comfortable. I thought it was very fun to drive. I love the minimalism, tech , stalkless design. I ordered the M3 LR stealth grey black interior beginning of February. Now today I got my VIN!! Should be ready in a week🎉🎉 super excited my first EV.
Congratulations! I one of the folks that stood in line & put down my $1k deposit before Elon introduced the m3 to the world. I have had mine for 5 years 7 months & have been very pleased with my early model & had been one of the best cars o have ever owned! Realible, fun to drive, low maintenance. I bought it with everything possible $57k & added FSD for 3 K. I will never go back to a ICE car.
My New model highland Standard Range feels much quicker than its posted acceleration, I don't know why
Congrats! You will love it and never go back to gas cars again. Welcome to the Tesla family
@@edornelas8275 thank you for that. Your experience puts me at ease as this is my first EV and not knowing what to expect. Everyone I speak to love their Teslas and would never go back to another car. I have a feeling I will only buy a Tesla from now on
@@edornelas8275 oh I forgot to add that is awesome you were one of the first owners of the M3 and still love the car it says a lot
I only had to drive the refreshed Model 3 a mile to know I was going to buy one to replace my current Model 3. I ordered one the moment I got back from the test drive. There is nothing at this price point that can touch it. It is now a real luxury car with premium materials everywhere.
Nekem is rendelj egyet kérlek, 15 éves kia ceed-emet szeretném lecserélni.
Please share which Model 3 you _currently_ own and why you are upgrading? Thanks.
We have a 2021 Model 3 … have been waiting for Cybertruck …
@@dwylhq874 - I have a 2019 Model 3 SR+, I also have a 2021 Model Y. The refreshed Model 3 is better in every conceivable way, quiter, smoother, redesigned interior made with more premium materials, more aerodynamic (which results in greater range), sleeker styling, adaptive headlights which were just approved in the US and will be implemented soon, V4 computer, higher resolution cameras, ventilated seats, glass roof reflects more heat... I could go on.
@@peterbaranyi5027Chia Seed??.... 😉😁
@@alexmanojlovic768 No chia, it is Korea. 😀
These are the kind of video I come here for. I wish you'd stop all the other noise videos you're doing these days, but these are still as great as they ever were.
Sandy and Jordan-excellent together. They are engineers who just come across as knowledgeable, smart, and normal. They are not nerdy nor un-relatable.
Thanks to both for taking some of their valuable time for the interesting discussion!
17:19- no issue. Lars has said that they took a look at their very good crash data and discovered a way to make the cars even more safe based on how crashes actually happen to their cars in the real world, not just guessing based on official crash tests.
TESLA designs ALL their Vehicles to be 6 stars in Every catagory.
Was going to mention the same thing 👍
The trunk lid wiring harness change is sutely related to NHTSA 21V00D000 recall recarding an issue where repeated opening abd closing would stretch the wiring harness and cause reliability issues with the backup camera.
Something I hope they fixed that I haven't seen covered is water ingress into the cabin air intake under the frunk lid. Water running down th windshield/firewall drainage channel would splash into the tube feeding the condenser due to a suctioning effect, causing smells to form around the cabin filters.
I've heard the side impact standards are changing in the next couple years so they took advantage of the refresh to implement the structural change to get ahead of the test.
We've had the bad smell from the cabin air system water ingress problem in both of our 3s and both of our Ys.
There's a couple of YT videos on how to fix the water ingress problem yourself. I know Tesla ought to, but all cars have annoyances built in that are never addressed by the manufacturers...
This is the first time that I have seen the ‘hook’ on the bottom edge of the door. Without fanfare Tesla has also introduced midline airbags to protect passengers and drivers from colliding with each other in a side impact. Project Highland was no ordinary mid life face lift. The Model 3 was already one of the world’s safest cars but the Tesla team took the time, effort and cost to improve upon it.
They absolutely did. The engineering team puts in a lot of effort, unlike another brand that starts with a T when it comes to their EVs.
Yep. For legacy, they spend most of the time designing a new ugly grill so it can be a "brand new" model. Everything else is the same old crap.
@@casualgamer1209 spell it out please, don't be shy 😊
The Model 3 as hatchback or shooting break would be my dream car
Maybe the model 2 will be a hatchback design for the EU and Spainish market's where small hatches sell very well?
And yes with how well wagons sell overseas and the upcoming+on sale ev wagons already out? Tesla would do well imo to offer an eu&China only wagon variant of the 3. 👍🏻
Just like they recently offered a 2 seater model Y cargo edition for France only sales!
Model Y, in my opinion, is more of a hatchback than an SUV
Stop trying to have sex with your stupid Tesla and ask a girl for a date before your 40 years old.
@@lemongavinefrom a US point of view you are right, from a european point of view not.
@@4literv6for me, the Model 3 is the sweet spot in size. If only the boot was more accessible.
I have driven my new model 3 for 3 weeks, the best car I have had...better than Cadillac, BMW, Lexus, Mustang Mach E...I had in the past.
Any idea if the ride feel is better in standard/long range or performance m3 refresh?
Washer bottle placement is definitely (at least in part) for consumer convenience. I have an older Model 3 and it's a bit tricky to get washer fluid in with some of the bottle geometries you can buy without some spillage. Happy to see that they moved it.
2:41 Another one.. Muscle memory.. but the stalk is missing... LOL
It handles better than the old model 3? Good God, that’s hard to imagine. My 2020 drives like it’s on rails as it is.
Top speed has been reduced, suspension geometry and dampening also changed. So for most normal driving, it will probably feel a bit more plush and smooth, while still being quite nimble. Get above 120mph and the differences will become more apparent. The older 3's stiffer suspension and dampening will feel much better in this scenario. Not a common one though, and I imagine Tesla is ok with a step away from the performance as they will more than make up for it with the, uh, performance model. So handles better? For most people, most of the time, probably.
From what I've gathered elsewhere (haven't driven it yet), the suspension is a bit softer than the old Model 3 (less firm) and so the handling is not quite as sharp, but still very good. For most people that's probably a good compromise - one of the complaints with Model 3 and Model Y was that the suspension is a bit too firm and harsh over bumps etc. Lars also talked about tuning the frequency of the damping to better absorb bumps, while maintaining handling and steering feel etc. While the standard models are a bit softer to cater for the masses, it seems to me that they are doing a lot more work to differentiate the Performance version with this new Model 3. I suspect the Performance model will be a lot more focused for those who want a sportier drive and handling.
Absolutely the suspension is much softer and more compliant on the new car. This is likely going to be an improvement for most customers since most people aren't pushing the car past 100mph frequently.
Tesla is likely saving the high level performance experience for the performance trim coming in a few months. I suspect it's suspension will be much more sporty.
not really. The older one was sportier, faster, more responsive and the 2024 highland has problems with a bouncing tail once you drive faster. They've softened it a little bit to much. But you can improve that by correcting the geometry a little bit. Other than that it is a big improvement over the existing model 3. I've got both at home. 2024 M3 LR and 2022 M3 LR. Former MS90D driver for over 7 years :)
Just the indicator thing is a deal breaker for many drivers in EU due to roundabouts. But I got used to it fastly.
@joewiley6927
My '19 Dual Motor 3 starts to wallow over 120mph.
We got a Highlander! 🎉 That made my day!
There can be only one!
👏 👏👏
@@DuckRiceFarmerbeat me to it...😭
Thanks Sandy and team for an informative walkaround the new Model 3. As always, great to see you
I am driving a Volvo and a Tesla model 3 2024, and I truly love the Tesla a lot.
One thing I am struggling with to get used to and FIND is the indicator lights buttons on the steering wheel while driving around roundabouts and the steering wheel is upside down and rotating 😅
Really funny hearing Sandy imitating engineers fighting over inches, I am an engineer and been there so many times 😂😅
Think of the right signal button as a clock hand, it's always the one going forward first
I know the biggest fans will yell at me for thinking the lack of stalks is a dumb idea. I'm sure you can get used to it just like I got used to not having a driver HUD, but I really like operating the stalks. Being able to maneuver in and out of the drive way, especially with multi point turns has got to be so much better.
Otherwise I really like this update, but I'm still going to keep my 2021 as long as I can. Stalks + US sensors is really nice.
If they added a bumper cam up there, I could deal with no US. I gotta get less than a foot from the front of my garage, and the accuracy of those US sensors are awesome.
Same. Ultrasonics allowed for good park assist, plus I actually hate the removal of stalks but lke the new interior. I have to pick used with US and stalks or new with updated interior.
Agreed. Removing the stalks without steer by wire is a really bad idea compromising security. Removing the US sensors without an appropriate camera suite to see in 360 and objects right in front of the car is also a really bad idea. It cannot function reliably even with the best AI FSD software. And for me removing the warm natural touch of the wooden dash and replacing it with a cold soulless LED light is also a really bad idea - though it is more subjective. Hopefully there will be some aftermarket wooden dashes in the Highland format. After turning off the LED lights I could feel home again with that.
The lack of stalks was a deal breaker for me. The turn signal buttons are extremely frustrating to use in tight roundabouts, which is what we tend to use instead of intersections here in Europe.. I had my mind set on buying the highland, but changed my mind after test driving it. I've previously driven a model S with the same setup, and utterly hated it.
@@FireWalkMusic I'd keep an eye out for companies that have an aftermarket stalk kit, I heard that might wind up happening but have yet to see any. You would think that once the FSD gets good enough it would know that you are still turning and in a roundabout and then keep the turning sensors on someday down the road.
@@FireWalkMusic I drive the Highland in Europe for 3 weeks. I completely got adapted to it on the roundabouts. On a sharp roundabout, you just press on the lower button on the right side. For me it is easier than with stocks. If you only have driven the Highland for half an hour. I can understand the frustration, but your muscle memory learns fast. I had BMW's in the past and a Model 3 AWD. The Highland Model 3 RWD I have is just incredible to drive, and what a difference compared to the previous Model 3. Also the efficiency is that good, that it has slightly longer range than my previous long range.
I have a CT dual motor on order...
... but after the M3 reviews... I may just go with the car.
Either way, Tesla is def crushing it.
Thank you Elon, the Tesla team... and of course Munro and Co..
For 2023 I noticed Tesla has two lamination strategies on the front of the Model Y depending on supplier. One has equal thickness and the other has one thick and one thin. I compared two model Ys with two different glass suppliers. It was a while ago so I forgot the name. I think it was American Glass Company and Saint Gobain.
🙋♂️ THANKS SANDY,JORDAN AND THE MUNRO TEAM, FOR THE REVIEW 😎💚💚💚
The windshield wiper reservoir cap is likely in that new position because it's easier to reach.
Exactly, and no spillage into the storage bin.
@@surf-n-turf Spillage could also drip down onto the wiring harness in its previous position ...
It's probably a factor but like they said plumbing and or relocation of the reservoir is an arduous task and I don't know they would commit to it without other benefits besides improved customer input.
I've read and seen mention of Tesla planning to add a HEPA filter to the model 3. In that case, they would need every cubic inch of space that they can free up in that area; and moving the wiper fluid bottle makes sense.
What's the point when the wipers don't work properly majority of the time anyway.
Nice to see that Sandy wants to operate the turn signals behind the steering wheel when turning right after the wash board. So they are not there.
I haven't driven the 24, but the 21 I drove felt like the chassis was milled out of a piece of aluminum. I can't wait to try one of these.
You know Juniper refresh is gonna be crazy
Yep! Hoping its for MY25 and not MY26, so people who are holding out can buy the thing.
The new shocks are (Koni) FSD (frequency sensitive dampeners). According to a Tesla engineer on Jay Leno's Garage. They have two sets of piston vales one for high HZ and an other for normal dampening. I put them on my Mini Cooper S and they worked wonderfully.
They didn’t mention the better looking front bumper the wraps around without the ugly flat middle from the first iteration. It really does make it a great looking car.
I actually didn't mind the old look but I have to agree that this new one looks so much better. I saw the performance front end leak which is an amalgamation of the previous with the new front end and I think a lot of people will really like it.
The removal of the signal stalks is definitely a polarizing choice. OG front end looks better, but this rear end looks better.
If they used a steering wheel like the one in Citroens of the mid 2000s it would not be as bad
Indeed. It's very unpractical to use here in the EU where there are tight roundabouts everywhere. I really can't stand it. The car just lost it's five star Euro NCAP safety rating because of this. Not surprised, because it forces you to constantly take your eyes off the road in a critical situation to look down at the wheel to figure out where the buttons are before you can actually use them. Really stupid design for EU roads. It probably works well in the US though, where they'll be able to engage the turn signals before they actually start turning the wheel 99,9% of the time since they mostly use intersections instead of roundabouts like the EU.
Yet they have no problem forcing you to look down at your speed every 3 seconds to avoid “speeding” rather than just letting you be engaged with the road and drive how you see fit. So it’s a BS argument.
@@BlaineRush-b8h You don't have to look down to check your speed every 3 seconds. You can just enable cruise control or drive at a steady speed. Checking your speed is optional.
In a roundabout however it's different, because it's a situation that forces you to use the turn signals, and you then HAVE to look down, taking your eyes off the road in a critical situation with cars all around you.
Either that or just not use the turn signals at all. Neither is safe. This is why Euro NCAP is revoking their flawless 5 star safety rating.
It's a bad design! Done purely for cost cutting purposes.
Norwegian driving schools have already started banning the tesla model 3 because they say it's distracting and unsafe, and that they can't have a car that causes their students to fail their test in roundabouts.
I've used this for a while in the new model S, and I've also tried the new model 3 (it's the same system) and it really is a distraction in tight roundabouts. Even when you manage to find the button, it's way too easy to press the wrong one, and they are also not as responsive as they should have been, so oftentime it doens't even engange. It's quite frustrating to use to be honest.
As a model Y owner I can easily hear the sloshing of the windshield wiper fluid when it is about half full. I wonder if noise is a concern and a major reason they moved the windshield wiper fluid bottle.
When will Tesla incorporate steer by wire on all of its vehicles? It would make sense to combine the narrow steering range (
It's quite a bit more expensive, so it might come to the S/X at some point, but maybe not. Unlikely to appear in the 3/Y. It also relies in part on the 48V system, and Tesla has already stated they have no current plans to retrofit 48V into existing models which would be a major impediment.
@@tesla_tapthat is why they should have kept the stalks. At least for the turn signals. At least in Europe with tons of roundabouts.
Vehicles made at GigaTexas will be the first with steers.
It's always a treat to watch your videos. Love the engineering insights.
Great to see you two doing videos together. My two favorite presenters on your team.
well, Cory is OFF the Munro team.
@@markplott4820 I know Cory is off. I really miss him and wish him all the best. It’s his time to grow in another direction I suppose.
*Sandy and team, thank you for a great review as always.*
Our pleasure!
Add drive-by-wire and you have no complaints from missing stalks 😁
Agree
Saw you reaching for the indicator stalk before using the buttons. Here in Europe these buttons are a no go because of the many roundebouts.
Maybe you have not so much roundabouts in the US, but here in Norway and the rest of Europe we have a lot of them.
Using buttons on the steeringwheel instead of a stick at the steering collom is a pain in the A.. when you drive into a town with only roundabouts instead of level crossings.
And in town you have roundabouts every few hundred meter of all sizes.
Try to press the right button to signal right when you take a small roundabout and your steeringwheel is 130 degrees turned upsidedown in a fraction of a second........
Removing the turnsignal stick is a big mistake and is a safety issue in my opinion.
There are lots of roundabouts in the US and more being added every day. No one, and I mean no one. Use is there a turn signal in a roundabout, and there’s really no reason to unless they’re multi lane roundabouts. Most of them in my area are single lane wear a turn signal is not important.
@@joehowe9532 in larger roundabouts not using indicators will get you a ticket.
Removing them is dangerous and dumb.
100%. Unless drive by wire the lack of indicators is stupid and dangerous.
@rvo8915
When you're on a roundabout with 130° lock on, it's not the kind of roundabout you indicate to leave.
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You indicate left (in your case) *as you approach*
The time between the "previous exit and yours is so small, you don't have time to indicate right, and anyway everyone saw you indicate as you approached(?)
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On a LARGER (multi lane?) roundabout, you're not applying that angle of steering.
We have roundabouts here, and I've never had a problem signaling my exit. It's less difficult with wheel buttons than when your hands are at 12 and 6 in the turn and having to let go with one hand to get to that turn signal stalk. Now if you take a roundabout at 80 mph, yes you need to really wrap the wheel to make a turn and any type of turn signal is going to be difficult. Fortunately, few drive roundabouts at high speed and live to talk about it.
Tesla is the best car company ever! No gas stations, No oil changes, No smog check, No corrupt dealership, No catalytic converter and as fast as a $650,000 Lamborghini.
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*And that's just the Appetizer, the main meal is yet to come.*
Do you also own a tesla model?
@@marcinmerrimack1726Naw, you just upset 'cause he's 100% right. I dislike Elon but absolutely love Tesla and engineering teams behind it. You're not getting such an EV for the money anytime soon.
T car’s forever.
Fantastic video guys, really enjoyed it!
Cant wait to get my hand on one. So good looking,quiet, SCREEN in the back for kids.. LOVE IT
I'm glad you posted this after Doug's lack luster review 👍🏻
DOUG, is not even an Engineer.
DOUG , is a FAKE tuber.
You don’t need to be an engineer to have an informed opinion. Doug has driven and evaluated many more cars than Munro.
Fakr? @@markplott4820
@@marcinmerrimack1726You can cook many meals without getting good at it.
@@marcinmerrimack1726is that why Doug couldn't even get the names of the paint options right?
Love your no-nonsense (full of pertinent facts) reviews. Thanks gentlemen.
“…the Munro test track, known as Featherstone Road…” 😂
WE HAVE TEST TRACKS ALL OVER OHIO 😞🤷♂️
@@budgetaudiophilelife-long5461 Plenty in Indiana, too.
😂🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@ElliottNest41 MY SYMPATHIES 😅
@@budgetaudiophilelife-long5461 Exactly! the whole Detroit area is one giant test track of poor roads. Fun trivia: when scientists discovered that the dinosaurs went extinct due to a massive asteroid, they first looked for the crater on Detroit area roads.
THANKS ERIC ,FOR ENLIGHTENING US…PUTTING THE LIGHT 💡 WHERE WE COULD SEE… I also love ❤️ the cleaner, smoother, simpler lines, and features ,THANKFUL SUE SUGGESTED IT🤗💚💚💚
From an engineering standpoint this car seems to be a great leap in evolution. However I found the wooden interior in my M3 much warmer and closer to nature, than a cold LED light would ever be able to produce as a feeling and atmosphere in the car. Hopefully they will at least allow to regulate the strength of the light (instead of just turning it on and off), to make it less disturbing at night.
Agree. I hate those LED strips
Pointless Gimmick....
We appreciate this and it was a very nice look at the car. Thank you Sandy and Jordan.
21:25 can't believe Munro praises the removal of the stalks 😅
Yeah, that's my biggest gripe with this. Stalks and parking sensors.
It's a good idea.
He can walk and chew gum at the same time too.
yeah as long as you only drive lane by lane in the US it's easy. But with all the roundabouts in other countries it gets a little bit annyoing.. still you can live with it :)
sure you can live with it. But from a customer and safety perspective, there's just not a single upside.@@dominolehmann8227
It just keeps getting better cheers guys
1:34 He reaches for the turn signal lever 😂
"Phantom Reaching" is real.
Later he praises Tesla for removing them 🤔
@@haselhofler You can praise it from an engineering point of view but not like it from a driving point of view.
Hand gesture is all you need in a tesla 🎉
Well maybe they are good at asking customers what they need but it also depends which customers they asked. I bet they did not ask those in cities with a lot of roundabouts. Good luck using buttons on the wheels on roundabouts of different sizes. Got a lot of new small ones recenlty in my city in Poland and have hard time thinking how I would use those buttons on them.
Thank you for going over terrible road. This is the biggest improvement to me. Once MY gets this kind of lift, it will be truly incredible.
Your thoughts on the imminent update to the Model Y (Juniper)…
The Cybertruck now has steer-by-wire, the updated Model 3 has deleted the indicator stalks, do you think it’s possible that the New Model Y could arrive with steer-by-wire?
MY refresh COULD have steer by wire w/o mech backup like Cybertruck, but will probably be "model 3 but SUV" like current, so no steer by wire?
Unlikley to have steer-by-wire. Quite a bit more costly, and less need in a lighter car like the Y. Still, it would be cool! Also, Tesla has said Juniper is not imminent - expected next year.
Excellent report. I own a 2021 Model 3 and test drove the 2024. Big improvements in ride quality, and noise reduction. One point, the heat exchanger at the front of the car will get cold in the winter, and hot in the summer, so it's not going to heat the windshield washer fluid in the winter. It's a heat pump. In the winter the hot side heats the interior and the cold side would be the front heat exchanger.
Fantastic vehicle. Very refined in every way.
Regarding the rear hinge on the trunk and the change in the wiring harness ... there had indeed been issues on the previous version and had been the subject of a recall to provide more protection. This will be the reason for the re-design. The reason for the washer bottle relocation is so you don't spill so much ... and in the previous location that spillage could drip onto wiring loom connections.
That's a nice Cybertruck in the back there. 😬
Oh, I thought that was a fridge on wheels.
No such thing as a nice Cybertruck! $120,000 for a truck with low range and a terrible charging curve! The Silverado ev is king of the ev pickups!
@@gmv0553Silverado EV dosen't even EXIST for consumers yet. Range is honestly impressive considering the cells are 4680 on all models. Same for charging curve, better than MY 4680.
My '19 M3 SR+ feels EVERY imperfection in the roads. I've had a Model S loaner once or twice and that was smooooooooth.
This is the first time I ever felt like Sandy being biased!
To me buy a model s if you want a softer ride.
The model 3’s benchmark was a BMW, not everyone wants or needs a soft ride.
The stalks are more desired than they aren’t for most drivers. The buttons don’t function in real life as well as the tried and true stalks, something don’t need to be fixed or replaced.
All in all, like BMW, Mercedes, if you want a plusher ride, by a 7 series or s class, if you want a more sporting experience you by a 3 series, or a c series,
Now I understand that Tesla doesn’t yet have a middle experience vehicle like the 5 series or the e class, and that the model 3 kinda fits both categories to a degree, so I suppose as I’m typing that maybe sandy is correct after all with the softer ride as a compliment to the platform, and perhaps the performance model is where Tesla can continue to give those of us who specifically purchased the model 3 as the Electric 3 series competitor it is.
Not many😂 people can afford the bigger BMWs/Mercs. What an asinine comment!! "Let them eat cake".... 🤡
Removing the stalks probably works well in the US, but not in the EU!
We tend to use tight roundabouts everywhere instead of intersections, so we constantly have to operate the turn signals while turning the wheel, and you end up having to constantly take your eyes off the road to look down at he wheel to figure out where the buttons are before you can use them, which is also why the model 3 is losing it's 5 star Euro NCAP safety rating. It's a distraction! Norwegian driving schools are even banning the new model 3 now because they say it causes their students to fail their test in roundabouts...
No problem in the US though, where you can activate the turn signals with the wheel straight 99,9% of the time. But try operating the buttons while doing some U-turns and you'll understand why this is a pain in the ass to use in Europe. It's unpractical and unsafe, and for me it became a deal breaker unfortunately, because it's just so damn annoying to use when there are tight roundabouts all over the place.
getting rid of the stalks results in turning the wipers on in one spot & changing their speed in another. A dumb idea. Bring back the stalk or put a wiper switch with speed control on the dash.
Hitting the wiper button on the wheel let's you adjust speed with the right scroll wheel
15:51) Thanks, Jordan and Sandy. When you opened the Frunk, I appreciated that you didn't show that I am living in there...
I wish The model2 redwood will come with an option for 3 motors and 100kw pack. I just love hot hatch.
not likely, as its a MASS MARKET $20,000 k car.
Hot hatches are definitely doing a come back in Europe & I'm seeing N Americans asking for them too (feeling like Rivian got more interest for their R3 than their R2 but I could be wrong).
@@mystisith3984yeah, I am very excited to see more on R3 and more specifically R3X.
Turn signals are required for roundabouts (you may signal left at entering when leaving at the last exit and always right by leaving any exit - at least In Europe) and then having the switch on the steering wheel makes it almost impossible. You always know where the stalk for turning light is.
Having steering by wire that would not require you to move your hands and then getting rid of the stalk seems OK.
My wife looked at me as if I was talking a foreign language when I referred to our car's front bumper as front fascia.
Tell me you've watched too much Munro Live, without telling me you've watched too much Munro live 😅.
Great video guys and can't wait to get a refreshed Model 3/Y.
@ChristinePerkins-yt7ie not yet! Got a Model Y currently. Was hoping its refresh would follow soon, as I prefer the Y's size. If that takes too long, I'm definitely going to take the new 3 for a spin
I drove this car yesterday. I was very impressed by how quiet and responsive it was. I liked the autopilot but didn't have the opportunity to use the FSD. I scheduled a test drive at a local charging station, where the Tesla Model 3 was just sitting there waiting for people to drive it. I am now seriously thinking about getting the 3 or the Y model., lets see what happens.
As much as I love my MY I still miss my M3, this thing looks amazing! My dream car would be the Plaid M3.
The Ludicrous version of the new Model 3 has been spotted. Tri motor mini Plaid it seems.
@@TheLastMoccasin In the interview with Jay Leno, Lars said that there wasn't enough room for two rear motors, so I doubt there will be a tri-motor version. From the various 'rumours' it does look like the rear motor will have a nice boost in power though and Tesla seem to be doing a lot more work to differentiate the Performance model this time around. Look forward to seeing what changes they've made.
@@richardjones8395 You are correct. Sorry, their drip drip drip method of releasing info along with all the speculation is confusing AF!
9:09 they did have an issue with pinching on some 2018/19 Model 3's that took out the back camera. They did a recall a few years ago and fixed the ones that were problematic (neither of ours were). So I assume these changes are to alleviate any chance of that.
I wonder what impact removing the stalks will have on sales especially in Europe where they have plenty of roundabouts
Thank you for your excellent content. Always a pleasure when Sandy is on and share a lifetime of experience and knowledge. We all love "the old fart"! 👍🏻
Thanks, nice complement to the Lars and Franz segment, really enjoying the dynamic between you two, all the best
Glad you enjoyed it
🔥🔥🔥❤ Last words - it's funny and extremely good qualit mark for Tesla, and they Tesla Model 3 Upgraded!
Cybertruck video coming soon?
In due time.
Now THAT was a cheeky reveal! 😍 Hella keen for the Cybertruck pull down!
The missing stalk for the turn signal is actually a big problem for us in Europe. Not being able to find and hit the right button in the tremendeous amounts of roundabouts on our streets is really a security relevant issue. One agency has just decided to give penalty points on the security rating if no easy physical input is possible for basic driving related functions. We will see how Tesla reacts when they lose their 5 star rating because of this in Europe.
I am also living in Europe (Sweden) and the removal of stalks is a dealbreaker for me. How is the response from rental firms? I guess they have a need for cars that a customer instantly can feel accustomed to. I guess the removal of stalks will hurt fleet sales to rental firms.
@@stallis2009 True. But unfortunately car rentals like Hertz are dumping their EV and Tesla fleet already because of the depreciation issue. The missing stalk is just another argument to feel good with their decision.
Euro NCAP will need to adjust to a changing world. That agency is a "follower," not a regulator with authority.
I had decided to get the model 3 highland, but changed my mind after trying it, for one simple reason: The lack of stalks. Those turn signal buttons on the steering wheel are extremely frustrating to use in tight roundabouts, which are everywhere here in the EU. It became a deal breaker for me.
I have driven the Highland extensively. It took me a short while to adapt, but now I LOVE stalkless.
Fact : people hate change. Give it time.
Looking forward to future videos on this car. Interested to see the other NVH and suspension changes.
No doubt about it, it’s a fantastic upgrade to my 2021 GigaShanghai build, though that one was already a very nice EV. This is truly German beating for comfort performance and ease of driving, finally incredible value.
I always learn so much about automotive engineering on this channel. Fascinating!
The suspension is great
Good to see team back in action again.
01:32 can't go against that muscle memory of using the indicator stalks... ;)
Talking about the wipers, Citroen CX designed in 1970s was a saloon with shallow angle rear window. The glass had a concave curve which used the air stream to sweep water away. No wiper needed.
Appreciate the great detail!
Thanks Sandy and team, always respect your opinions. Is the new model 3 2 cast piecing like the model Y? Can’t wait for the tear down of the Model 3 (hopefully the performance model) and the cyber truck. ⚡️😎
Jordan, looking at the old Model 3 IIHS side impact rating it was the top rating so as you suggested it is perhaps a change related to battery pack design.
Hey Munro people!! Love you vids guys/gals. You have great feed back, BUT, I dont think all your opinions are of my thought. My 23' M3P got hit and totaled after 9 months. That was December 7. I waited for the 24' to release, only to find out the M3LR only had a 125mph top speed. This is totally unacceptable. And getting rid of the Fog lights on the LR is unacceptable as well. Those are the only two things That kept me from getting a 24' M3LR. I instead choose to get a 21' M3P with the 162mph top speed and those LED fog lights. Two small things to you, BUT HUGE deal breakers for me. I couldn't wait for the 24' M3P to come out. I needed another car now. Also, I like the door handles. I don't want buttons for door handles.
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@@rogerstarkey5390 haters gonna hate.
You need the top speed?
@@jamesengland7461 yeah, my Tesla M3P is my slow car, but great for a daily. I have 800hp-1000hp cars on the side. So, I like speed. I prly do 130 everyday. And once a week almost top it out, 162mph. Fun is Fun. I should note, I work second shift, roads are wide open when I go home. Lots of people like to race.
Taking delivery of mine tomorrow!
Sandy, I'm 99% sure they moved the washer fluid bottle forward because of the extra space needed for the revised suspension. If you locate the bottle on the outgoing Model 3, you'll see the proximity to the top of the suspension mount. The revised suspension takes a bit more room.
Improved rear seat thigh support and better rain sensing technology would be a welcome improvement :)
I've seen some beta test drives of the new FSD 12 where they said the functionality of the auto-wiper system was getting a drastic improvement but I'm not sure if this improvement was tied to FSD.
I see them more and more here in Belgium.
Thanks for the review.
Great video guys 👍
Thanks 👍
@@MunroLive Holy Moly....The Legend Sandy has replied to me....🤠You absolut made my day....👍 Thank you great Sandy....Regards from Switzerland Lucerne
No stalks and parking sensors were the dumbest cost-cutting measures. Instead, they could have done without that miniature screen in the back
Very refined!
I miss the wood trim inside the cabin on the dash. It was a nice touch that added to the value of the car.
They definitely pulled off the cover in the frunk off camera 🤣🤣
Do you mean EVeryone can see what I'm doing in the Frunk???
I`m a car guy meaning I have owned over 75 cars and not an engineer . Everything that you have focused on seems to be a big improvement and i`m so happy to see the fish faced bumper cover gone this car is such a huge improvement I would love to drive this , the one thing I can`t stand is noise and the previous design was very noisy . I`m hoping the juniper Y becomes a reality . Thanks guys !
Interesting points, but I would like to point out some things You may not have realised due to living in a warm climate. The rear lights have had a lot of warranty cases due to moisture building up inside them. I bet the new lights have a larger internal volume, which may have an affect in resolving this issue. Also as for only having push buttons on the doors, that does not work when doors are frozen shut. There needs to be a good lever to actually get the doors open in all conditions. I dont like those recessed handles on my Model Y, but at least they can be used to really pull the door open even if its frozen. Unless the handles them selves have also frozen shut, which seems to happen to some users.
Also the washer bottle location is a poor choice on Model Y and old Model 3. If you miss anything pouring it in, it will spill in the frunk. Its also difficult to pour anything in from a full big container, as you cant get it anywhere close the hole. When its in the front, you can lower the bottom of the container in front of the bumper and get a lot closer to the hole when pouring.
And as for the blinkers and drive mode stalls missing, that is a deal breaker for many buyers, me included. I might learn to live with the blinker buttons, but drive modes being guessed by the car will not work reliably in snowy conditions and having to swipe the screen to change directions is just stupid. EU is currently looking in to changing some regulations to actually force manufacturers have certain things be operated without a touch screen. I think this is a good thing. All things that the driver needs to interact with during driving should be operable without taking eyes off the road. For an example radio control is not essential and can be on the touch screen, but drive modes, wiper speeds, lights and things like these need to be operable without eyesight. Tesla is currently moving in the wrong direction, claiming its for usability, when in reality they are just cutting manufacturing costs.
There is a simple solution to adding washer fluid, Use A Funnel! I love the simplicity that Tesla engineers build into their cars. These things take getting used to, but after a while, you don’t wanna go back to the old way.
@@joehowe9532 Yes I have one too, but then again, my 20 years old Toyota has abuilt in funnel in the washer fluid hole that I can pull out when adding washer fluid. Why does Tesla not have one? Anyways, that new location for the hole is better than before considering usability.