The Future Of Rose | Downton Abbey
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 11 ก.ย. 2019
- Robert and Hugh talk about Hugh's marriage and the uncomfortable situation that they are living at home, Especially because Rose is still living with them.
From season 3 episode 9: The Crawleys go to Duneagle Castle to celebrate Christmas with the MacClares. Everyone is delighted as they fish, hunt, and dine. Unfortunately, when the Crawleys return, tragedy strikes. Will things ever be the same again?
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I like how Violet first tries to mediate between Rose and her mother, and afterwards tries to cheer Rose up with a story.
At Rose’s wedding her mother tries to ruin the wedding before it even begins and when Violet speaks to her after she fails you can hear the controlled anger in her voice
This was a great moment. When Robert discovers how terrible things for Downton would have become if he hadn’t listened to his kids and modernized the estate. Now everybody respects him for being innovative and ahead of the time - when in reality he was just fortunate to have children and in-laws that were smarter than he thought he was.
It was smart of Robert to have listened to his kids and in laws.He didnt have to follow their advice.but he did.
He did reflect upon the demise of Shrimpie’s estate, and thank Matthew afterwards for saving Downton.
#Facts
@@thunberbolttwo3953 Actually, he wasn't in a position not to do it as the estate did not belong to him entirely.
potocatepetl exactly. He actually got the same fate as shrimpy until Matthew inherited some money and saved the state. And then after Matthew saved the state, Matthew had to fight against Robert and had the state agent quit so he could modernize. Robert was forced to modernize. He like shrimpy were raised not to lift a hand and let everything in the care of others thus their failure.
Rose turned out so sweet and amazing despite her horrible mother.
I am happy she was able to go to Downton and in the end finally found her happy ending
@Ber P. How did she settle? She loved him. And i doubt she lives in obscurity... and even if she was i don't think Rose would mind
@Joe Hopper yeah, if anything the only persons that have married down are Mary and Sybil.
@Ber P. She married a titled,wealthy man,a man she adores and who loves her,and is a happy wife and mother. That is hardly 'settling'.
@Joe Hopper You'll have to excuse Berp. The syphilis has really done a number on her cognitive abilities. The bigotry is merely icing.
@Ber P. How is it settling for less if it's love? That's what's more important here. Yes she married below her station, but she did for love. She rather had that than a higher up with no love at all. That isn't settling. That's going for what makes you happy
“Oh my dear, in my time I wore the crinoline, the bustle and the leg of mutton sleeve. I’m not in a strong position to criticize.”
Seeing Violet accept a bit of humility and understanding that she doesn’t have room to judge is surprisingly.... not on brand for her.
She is also admitted to being very fashionable (and attractive?) when she was young. So it's not really humility, more like she understands her place and Rose's place in the cycle of life and fashion.
I think what Violet meant was that fashion SO different when she was Rose's age that she had no valid reference point from which to comment or critique.
imo perhaps Violet was a bit forward fashioned in her younger ages. Didn´t she latter talked about a dance in 1860´s? because the fashion she described was "modern" for that decade. Perhaps she herself had to fight her own mother too!!
@@Hallows4 I think it was just her saying "When I was younger I wore some stuff folks considered outrageous, so I can't really condemn someone else". And she clearly didn't think there was anything wrong with Rose's outfit in the first place.
Klaus ,
The items of clothing that the Dowager Countess lists are all extremely exaggerated fashions.
I love how Bates just beams with pride and love for Anna, and just melts when he sees her dance all at the same time :)
Their romance is one of the most tested in the series as their set upon by so many terrors but they became stronger and overcame so much to have their happy ending.
It melted my heart and brought tears to my eyes look at her with joy seeing have a lovely moment. He looked so impressed and proud of Anna. That's what I dream of. At 53 is it ok to still dream of that? I think so. You're never too old to find love. My marriage has failed, but I still love to see the goodness that love can bring between a couple.
My favorite part of this particular scene. It’s wonderful
When your heart surges with affection for the one you love.
Speaking of Bates and Anna, I love how he never lets his disability stand in her way, but always encourages her to do the things she is capable of doing. That is very loving.
I always felt so bad for Shrimpie. He's a caring, intelligent, and hard working man who's shrew of a wife ruined his life. When Rose got engaged to Atticus he was supportive. Was he thrilled his daughter was marrying a Jewish man, of course not. However he cared way more about his daughter's happiness. Once he got to know Atticus the religious differences didn't seem to matter to him anymore.
Maxwell Housman that’s true. But she’s not entirely to blame for the fall of their marriage. The one thing that started to sour them was that Shrimpy lost their money. Because of that she had to lose her position and title, her house and servants and fortune. So she hated her husband and she got controlling of her daughter. Her first two children went away. Plus Rose being so carefree and happy reminding her of her husband, maybe making her think that she would end up like him. She said that she felt that she would grow up feeling entitled to everything they should have been enjoying. And she felt sad and a bit jealous that Rose got everything and with a man and family she majorly disapproves of. Of course this doesn’t excuse her being a sour cunt
And then at the wedding her mother spoiled it by announcing the divorce
@@itzzchristina1132 luckily Rachel Aldridge, Lady SInderby, was such a strong but kind woman. She threatened to divorce her husband if he did anything to stop the wedding.
@@doody244 yea true
@@KoiYakultGreenTea
I MM pas
I feel bad for Rose. I understand why she was so outlandish in the beginning because of the comments and such from her mother, but she definitely grew up. She was/is a very interesting and well written character.
And Anna dancing was absolutely adorable :)
I think her mother was very worried, that a gentleman in that era would be put off by her behaviour/sense of dress which was rather outlandish and uncouth for the time. If Rose didn't find a husband, she would be left destitute and without money or security. A woman had no freedom in those days, and it was important they married into good families for their very survival.
@@astroranger5528 Trust me, her style of dress or "wild" behavior was not going to keep her from getting a reputable husband.
Plopp R Yes I agree, naturally her mother would be worried about her and during those times Rose was definitely out there and taking many risks with her reputation which was very valuable while she looked for a husband. In the end though I think she turned out to be much better and maybe her mother would see that... you know what I mean?
@@StarlessOblivion 👍
@parrotprodigy productions agree, most of Rose rebelious behavior came from her hatred for her mother. In season 4 she even says she wanna see her mothers face crumble by the fact that she was dating a black guy.
I always loved how Rose is this kind of person who absolutely doesn't care what is your social status, class, skin colour, if you are a servant or royal, or whatever. She treats everyone like good folks, like Anna here. Really great and sweet person
She was rather like Sybil , a slight replacement if you think about it
@@LucyLovettLestrangeyeah, only "slightly" wilder and less sensible
I suppose Rose was there to be the “sybil” after Sybil died.
I always wished they’re was a prequel so we can see lady violets life. She had some fun....it could be like the crown...time jumps every season, then we could see lady granthams relationship with Cora.
I would like to see a little more of Violet and Kuragin's love affair in Russia.
That would be a missed opportunity if they never did that
I don't know why, but I see Violet's young years in Mary.
Get you someone that looks at you the way Bates looks at Anna.
Amen to that.
Do you have it I melted absolutely melted. I'm a puddle.
bugsboom I found me my Mr. Bates/Mr. Darcy years ago and we’re still together. Wooo whooo!! 😉💖
Otherwise it just ain't worth it
Learn Anna's dance.
At first, I though Rose would be a troubled and troublesome teen, but she had a heart of gold. Everyone grew to love her so quickly!
Rose was so nice, she always observed the servants and said hello to them and she didny care what anyone thought of her, she reminded me of sybil.
I don't think it was a coincidence that the character of Rose appeared after Sybil's death.
She was meant to take up her place and personality, with enough difference that Rose wasn't a carbon copy of Sybil.
If that makes sense.
@@xavierbeurre8064 well said!
When she visited Downton after their trip and immediately went downstairs to show the servants pictures of her baby. I loved that scene
I love how even Violet with her proper ways calls him Shrimpy.
Lily James is a talented actress. It’s harder to play the “good girl” than the bad girl. And she was like a breath of spring ! Same in Cinderella
You see her made up as Pamela Anderson in that new miniseries?
and war and peace !
I agree, but I don’t like how she hooked up with the married coworker. They caught them in photos and the poor wife had to see.
@@ShadowSonic2 Love her in The Guernsey Literary and Potato Peel Pie Society, along with fellow Downton cast members, Penelope Wilton, Matthew Goode and Jessica Brown Findlay. ... PEACE.
The way Bates looks at his Anna with such a deep love..... that is what I want .
The love of Anna and Bates is incomparable.
Kai C. Pure and beautiful
Shrimpie talking about how he and Susan were very unhappy. It just shows how different they were as a couple. Unlike Robert and Cora who grew to love each other as time went on, that same amount of time and more led to strife in Duneagle. Shrimpie loves all of his children but was constantly henpecked by Susan that no one could ever say that they were a happy family. Everything Shrimpie hoped to pass down to his son, including the manor, the fortune, and their legacy, was reduced to almost nothing. Shrimpie knew the party was the last hurrah before everything of monetary value was to be sold off. He knew he would be alright. It would take time to rebuild the fortune. He had his priorities right in one area though. He was concerned about his youngest child. He knew that she was the one most bothered by her mother and did what he could. He wanted Rose to be happy. Away from her mother, he knew Rose would thrive and thrive she did.
I'm glad the father was not a coward but stood up for Rose and dressed down her mother.
2:36 The face he makes when he gets the credit for what his Son In Laws did, priceless...
0:22 In just 5 seconds, the Dowager Countess sums down the entire Victorian fashion 😄
So beautiful how rose can make everyone be themselves and act so spontaneous taking out ut the shild inside them ...love her
The loving eyes when Mr. Bates says Yes she is marvelous. And he does not mean only for dancing. Anna is my favorite Carakter downstairs. Mrs. Hughes might be equally kind and more important. I like Anna the best.
The love Mr Bates has for Anna is lovely and oh-so-strong! "Yes, she is marvelous!"
You can Truly, Truly see the Love between Anna and John in this scene. How he looks at her while she's dancing is Pure Poetry. 💞 #TeamBates
I'm very glad that Rose has a sweet and heartwarming father, despite of her horrible mother~ Imagine both of her parents having similar personalities~
Anna and Bates relationship is simply profound!! So tender and beautiful :-)
Bates looking at Anna with pride and affection makes me remember how men are not supposed to hit you or spit on you.
“Yes she is marvellous” 😭
The way that Bates looks at Anna 🥺🥺
"Shrimpie Flincher," what a catch! How far he is able to extend his loving nature! I'd greatly enjoy seeing him find a happy ending!
I agree. He was so kind and good hearted,too bad he was saddled with the Hag From Hell for a wife.
He’d be a good match for Lady Rosamund, also a caring person, who could do with a nice man, and some (step)grandchildren to spoil rotten.
@@peadar-o Indeed he would, but wasn't he a first cousin? No, nevermind, he couldn't have been. They were second cousins, so fine. That was perfectly acceptable.
@@williamsstephens they were not related by blood. It was Susan that was the dowager’s niece and she liked to make clear to him after they became poor that that was HER aunt not his.
@@rayleigh8poor but owned houses in London and no doubt valuable artwork, wish I was that poor.
Oh Anna, a true treasure in Downton! Absolutely love her!
Dammit Bates, as soon as he smiles at Anna, I start crying LOL.
Awwwwww the way he looks at Anna is the best thing.
Give her hell, Shrimpy.
Give her a boot up her arse!
Love someone who looks at you the way Mr. Bates looks at Anna
The Estate issue always brings out Robert’s disappointing side, all he needed to have said was something like “yes Matthew did a great job” or some such. But no he takes the credit.
What a wonderful collage of Aristocratic England put together so finely ...each character so real & brilliantly portrayed. Looking forward to the film in Sept 2019....Cheers from India!!
Oh wow I had no idea you could watch it over there.....forgive my complete and total numptiness xxxx
@@janettetimms8650 India, Africa, Russia, China, Australia etc. Downton was a Worldwide hit
You know, you don't watch TV for a while; then your hit with a video like this. It makes it all the more worth it!
Imagine being stuck with that nickname, and so associated with it that even the Prince of Wales uses it when referring to him.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_of_Wales
@@SuperGreatSphinx I know who the Prince of Wales is, don't need a Wikipedia reference
flyboy152 lol
@@flyboy152dude chill💀
0:39 Rose "Girl, bye!" 😂😂😂
Watching Anna Bates Dancing I can truly say that Joanne Foggit is so talented even though I never even heard of her before Downton Abbey and when her Son grows up if he wants to become a Actor I can't think of a better teacher than his Mother
The bates and Anna story line could have been a series alone.
That look on Robert's face ..... says... " I am so embarrassed to take credit for something I fought against"
4:05 lesser men may have been jealous at Anna dancing while they would be unable to join in. But not Bates. Just how amazingly proud and in love he is with his wonderful wife is so plain to see. He is so happy for her to dance even though he can't because it's something that she obviously enjoys so much.
Ladies, search for a man who looks at you the way John Bates does at Anna when she dances ❤️❤️
I like how Anna Bates dances
Rose's mother is English through and through. Very aptly characterized
Omg Bates and Anne's theme is SO ROMANTIC. 😍
I love these little snip its from Downton Abbey, I ca nt sit threw movies much anymore & these minute scenes are great Thanks :)
I keep telling myself that then I end up spending hours on these little clips anyway...
@@hiepdang719 LOL I do too but it kills my neck back & legs :D
The fact that Shrimpie, even while he could see his entire personal and family fortune crumble around him, still prioritized the well-being of his youngest daughter speaks volumes of his character - all in the space of three minutes of screen time. There are entire film-franchises that don't manage to do that across multiple movies!
He was perhaps not a good husband, lord, or a manager, but he sure was a damned good father! And Rose blossomed because of that (pun definitely intended)!
Don't forget it's all acting.
So many negative comments about the mother, as if she is a real person.
What a wonderful profession acting is.
We’re are ripping the character because the actor does a marvelous job portraying her.
@@harleyquinn5774 That means, good job.
I'll be honest I at first believed Rose was some brat acting out because her mom was overly strict
.....buuuut her behavior when a jewish man was marrying her daughter proved Rose was right, that woman is awful
Simply wonderful acting superb wardrobes!
oh, i visited the castle in summer, it was amazing 😍
I think that the Crawley Family are very forward thinkers and very good Employers and any Problems then the Dowager is on hand to help because she loves and cares about not only her family's but the Employees as well and as much as she tries to a Prood she is very Broad Minded and Dame Maggie Smith is Marvellous as the Dowager as you never get a bad Performance from her only a Brilliant one
LoL! How her hair moved because he was shouting at her....😄😄😄
00:06 that is such a mum saying 😂 "that is final!!" Doesn't help my mum is called Susan too 😂😂
Made me cry…
That's not a word you often hear among the heather...bahahahaahaha LOVE Maggie Smith. And I love Shrimpy. I really do
This channel should really have more subscribers. Such a pity.
It's a shame that this episode is the Only time Rose's older brother and sister are ever mentioned. I'm presuming by Lord Flintshire's tone that James went off to war and sadly never returned. Anabelle is married and living her own life far, far, far away from her parents. (Her mother especially)
Shrimpie never mentions having to find a more distant relative as his heir, so it’s likely James is still alive.
I just realised Alastair Bruce is in this scene dancing. He is also the announcer at the debs' presentation at Buckingham Palace. I wonder how many other scenes he sneaked into.
He was butler in the castle when Robert and Cora arrive to announce engagement of Edith and Bertie.
I’m getting Cinderella vibes from Rose’s outfit (alluding to Lily playing Cinderella haha)
If there’s anywhere to be in a zombie apocalypse, Doneagle is the place. It’s a freaking arsenal. Just in the entrance hall, dozens of swords, pole arms, and shotguns, with more spread all over the house.
of this impresses you, visit the Tower of London and/or Windsor Castle, the armoury walls
Anna is SO adorable!
Mary being kind to Ana...
You do realize that this entire scene came in Season 3. But it's grouped in with videos from Season 1. Explaining, never complaining.
What scenes are from S1? As far as I can tell, the entire video consists of scenes from the final episode of S3.
Or do you mean it’s one scene in a mix? That happens because of the way TH-cam groups videos.
Seems like Roses mother has some serious baggage that she can't deal with
At first I thought the reason she was in such a foul mood was because her husband had lost their family home, but later on it seems she's always just been nasty.
Schlock Jocks You’re right. Even Violet commented that Susan has been “in rage since she was playing with dolls”.😣😖
what she has is called borderline personality disorder.
Find you a man that looks at you the way that Bates looks at Anna.
Maybe because they’re older and already “presented”
I hope to one day find a man that looks at me the way Bates looks at Anna :-)
Shrimpy is Much Better Than Susan
Her jealous Susamonster makes me crazy - it’s a wonder that Rose turned out as well as she did . Her father rocks though. :)
That Bates x Anna moment at the end
👉 For us "Bates'" fans, the show really put us through the ringer
as we had to endure their tough times apart. But in the end, they
were the most satisfying characters on the show! 💙🏰👗🧥
There's that room again. Seen in so many British productions. No one seems to notice.
I never noticed this before... The beginning shot... Is that a dollhouse? Or some sort of 3D render? It looks so fake. Lol.
No it's a real place - Inverary Castle in Scotland the seat of the Dukes of Argyll
@@pedanticradiator1491 Oh is it? I honestly had no idea. I learned something new. Lol thanks
Rose so got the style showing this off on this young age
Ew creepy
Anna...I do love her heart and how smart, capable and resilient she is. Bates is wonderful also. I love the pairing. Never mind Rose.
I wish I had a big house like that in Scotland
Love Rose's dress
Well, this explains why Susan is the way Susan is. Susan is very anxious, driven, and exacting, and her husband is so passive, he's done nothing while their entire fortune drained away and now they have to sell everything they own and their home. Susan feels she must take control, both because her personality needs stability like oxygen and because she no longer trusts her husband or thinks he's capable. But she is so high anxiety and so resentful of his failures that it twists. She isn't getting the reissuances she needs and has latched on to Rose as a thing she must fix and save, so she obsessively worries and criticizes. Hugh views Susan's comments as her being mean and nasty by nature (not as the result of her anxiety coming out wrong), and thinks he's being loving and kind when he steps in to shield Rose and let her get away with things. But Susan views Hugh as a waste who's ruined them, and when he interferes like this, he isn't being good--he's ruining yet another thing Susan is trying to hold together with duct tape. Rose MUST get married, and to a suitable person, before their ruin is revealed, and Hugh letting her do stuff like wear slutty dresses and sneak off actively undermines that. A softer hand might be useful with Rose, but Hugh has ruined Susan's trust in him and his judgement so thoroughly with his own actions she would never be able to believe him again.
They resemble the couple in Mrs. Doubtfire: one is all fun, and the other has to be the horrible stick in the mud and voice of reality, so the other one then tries to be even more fun, which then requires even more rule enforcing, and so on, until they are so far apart, there is no meeting in the middle anymore. I doubt Susan likes the person she feels she has to be when she's with Hugh, just as little as Hugh likes being criticized.
Nobody:
Bates: "I love my wife."
Shrimpy is one of my favs
Susan be like: Everything I do and say is the correct and absolute. HOW DARE U DISOBEY ME! EVERYTHING MUST GO MY WAY!
oh, I wish to have a chance with Scotsman.
Good man to plainly tell his wife.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wife
BATES AND ANNA FOREVER
What is the meaning of the phrase “a word you don’t often hear among the heather”? It must have a great story.
in and around duneagle there was lots of heather in the highlands, so she's saying 'slut' is not a word commonly used in duneagle
The look on Bates face when he realised Anna’s surprise for him. ♥️🥹
She cannot call rose that swear word absolutely rubbish
Lady Rose is so beautiful
YESSSSS
I looooove Susan's accent
He's a broken man
I believe that miserable people, want to crush happy people. Like the saying goes misery loves company. Lets face it Rose's mother Susan is very angry and miserable person. Rose is a very caring, and happy person.
Yeah, a person will not be that grumpy if they're happy.
But it makes you wonder what made Susan that miserable.
@@Furienna Her marriage is unhappy, her kids are growing up, and they have money troubles
@@glen7318 Yes, but I wonder if Susan wasn't neglected by her family as a child as well.
It is clear that even her aunt Violet doesn't have a high opinion of her and described her as a grumpy child.
I saw Shrimpy in another movie the other night forgot what it was I think with ricky gervais and matthew crowley's mother penelope whoever
that look iwish someone could give me this look
Anna ❤️ Bates
That's not a word you hear among the heather. Lol
I'm in 😍 lv just study his face looking at her.
What reel is that? It sounds a lot like the American fiddle tune "Devil's dream".
It's a Scottish fiddle tune, De'il Amongst the Tailors :)
@@kylahislop6212 Thanks. I looked that song up and it's almost the same song.