AMG EQE 53: Brilliant EV. Terrible AMG. //Full Review
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- Can #AMG convince us with this 687BHP Electric Midsize Sedan?! Welcome back to RBR guys and to the second #MercedesAMG of this new electric Era, based on the Mercedes Benz EQE sedan. Today I’ll be talking about both the EQE 53 4Matic+ and EQE 43 4matic.
Much like the normal EQE, it’s extremely similar to it’s EQS bigger Cousin. Both in design, interior and power components. Both are aimed squarely at the Tesla Model S and 3, a lot of that explains the uninspiring design choices of the one-bow design.
In terms of AMG specifics - the car features two AMG-specific electric motors - one on each axle. Both have been modified with adapted windings and laminations, higher currents and a specific AMG inverter - but still based on the Mercedes unit.
The rear one is larger - with a six phase motor, allowing for more power. Also lots of AMG specific thermal measures most notably a water lance - all done to allow for more power for the 43 and 53.
The EQE 53 has a slightly larger motor inside the rear unit, and changes in both to allow higher speed vs the 43. Otherwise, hardware very similar in both.
The battery is an interesting point. It’s a 90.6 kw battery which is smaller than the EQS, and more akin to Taycan size. Thus the range is actually very similar too - 240miles quoted to me on full charge, which is the same as my Taycan 4S. Battery behaves differently depending on if you’re looking to conserve or drive faster. So where are these aerodynamic benefits of the one-now design that Mercedes keep using as justification for the design? I’m not convinced.
As for power, the EQE 43 has a healthy 476BHP, 858NM and a 0-60 of 4.2 seconds. EQE 53 is much more powerful at 626BHP but a further 687BHP on limited overboost with a huge 950/1000NM. Launch is officially 3.3 or 3.5 seconds - but you’ll see me test it much faster.
Also - Different driving modes give different output, with comfort having the least.
The power goes to 43’s 4matic and 53’s 4matic+ all wheel drive - this is confusing because normally the plus please totally variable, but here both are totally variable. The plus now means… 53 is more dynamic? I don’t get it.
Chassis wise, we have AMG ride control plus with adaptive dampening. Basically the same as the EQS and GT 4 door - 4 link front and multi link rear, and those pressure limiting valves that make the adaptive even more accurate. AMG-specific wheel carriers, suspension links and anti-roll bars etc and a useful Rear axle steering 3.6 degrees. Brakes have the AMG I-booster marries recuperation with either steels or AMG ceramics.
Finally a big topic for today is AMG sound experience - for this they have hardware, including special speakers, a bass actuator and a sound generator +Two types of authentic or performance which comes with dynamic plus pack! I’ll test both on idle and on the move.
Weight is an issue, 43 is a porky 2525KG, and the 53 is 2655KG!! When do you think there’s only about 100 kg in between that and the EQS, that’s not much of a mid-level sedan. Also consider the weight of Porsche’s taycan turbo S is only 2380… and it’s faster and better looking; oh dear.
Today I’ll also show you a bunch of different specs, and then more crucially talk about AMG’s true electric goals, shown by the Vision AMG Concept : along with my render of what a real production version could look like!
My overarching question today is: can the EQE 53 replace both your electric car and something like the E63?? Is it AMG enough to pull this off?
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All Mercedes’ EQ sedans and SUV be looking like a bar of soap.
exactly hahahaha
Bruh
Gorden Wagener seems to dislike edges and every form that is not round. Not really a fan of this anymore tbh
@@Pietiepie uh no
All EVs in general look bad, except the Taycan and the E Tron GT. EVs just aren't it
I love AMGs... but I'd still have a Taycan over this... EQ AMGs just don't look the part.
As a former AMG E63S owner, these Ev AMG looks like vacuum cleaners and sounds like them 🤔
😂😂😂😂 I had a Miele cat and dog vacuum that looked the same it was even the same colour!
The new c63 is a joke.. its just a powerful hybrid c, not even a shadow of the original.. I have owned it for 6 years, that was a proper amg 🥹
The funny thing is that these vaccum cleaners will rip your AMG a new one every day plus Sunday🤣. BTW another idiocy of this review is there are no measurements at all! This version will rip 3 seconds to 60!
Current Mercedes amg owner and considering an ev in the next couple of years but it definitely won’t be an eq, the current lot are all hideous in design, porsche and Audi evs are miles ahead. Mercedes really missing a trick here and it’s worrying, £120,000 for something like like this that looks like an old civic
I think Mercedes has a better interior than both the Audi and Porsche, IMO. The external needs some work, that I totally agree with. I wish they were a little more aggressive looking for the AMG versions and they didn't look like a Dove bar of soap with wheels.
Tought so too at first, but kinda growing on me... More interested in the tech behind it though...
I honestly don't think this looks all that bad. The shorter wheelbase helps the side profile ALOT and that's rly the only problem I have with the EQS. Living with this as a daily must be awesome.
Mercedes lent me a EQE350 while my C205 C63S coupe was in for a service. It felt like going from the past to the future in one step, it handled and rode incredibly well, the suspension was soft and supple while still taking corners at speed. The all digital dash with the big central screen was incredible compared to my own car. I really missed the C63S and loved the noise and vibration when I got it back but I could live with one of these (providing I can keep the V8).
I like the Eqs and eqe design. I think it looks futuristic and sleek
I saw the white EQE AMG in person. And it doesn't look that bad. It grows on you in time. The interior is beautiful with the neva grey. That is the car I would get if it only got better distance with a charge. Hopefully Mercedes will give the AMG more range in the future.
Good detailed review Raz. Nice work. 👌👏
Sporty EVs can work together… see the Taycan but this is just.. meh. As is the current Mercedes EQ lineup imo
100%, the taycan and etron gt are perfect examples
It's such a pleasure to watch your reviews every single time. The level of detail and honesty is so important and second to none on YT. I am fully with you, technically very close to a master piece, except for that exterior design and the porky mass. Anyway, it's only AMG's 2nd attempt on an EV, so I am confident that they will sort this out eventually :-)
I think the issue is that they chose S/E class as the base for an AMG. They are simply too big and heavy to be a sporty sedan.
@@cenakaze Agreed. The next generation EVs will hopefully be the coupe/CLS types.
I still hate this generations steering wheel and the hyper-screen is a turn off - fine during warranty but anything outside of warranty that's going to be a headache. The price, quality, features, range everything in my eyes says "Get a Taycan". Also you're right, why would I get this when the E-class Wagon exists, this current MB/AMG EV line up screams first gen A-class failures to me.
So your primary worry on buying a luxury car is replacing components? Honestly have you ever heard of anyone needing to replace a screen from an MB out of warranty? Folks like you always complain about made up problems.
Screen will prob outlast rest of car. Screens tend not to fail.
@@freepadz6241 you can hope so but thats not always the case, especially as this is not a long lasting LCD screen, but an O-LED screen, in fact the first O-LED in a production car from the ICE S-class, curious how it will hold up.
Good detailed review Raz. Nice work.
I love you videos and how you do editing. Props for your editor.
He's the editor bruv, and, regardless of the content, he deserves a medal for that alone.
@Bowie yeah he is lol what u on bruv
Thank you for being honest about the dreadful design! Lovely review as always👍🏼
The interior looks very nice. But no thanks I'll stick with the AMG SL 55...🙂
I'd pick an SL500 every day over this.
The intro 😂 a soap bar
Please !!! We need a comparison with the Amg eqs 53. Love your videos
You should campare these cars more to their gas counter parts because a lot us will be switching sometime soon anyway and this way we get more comparison. love your detailed reviews man
The EQE is a tragedy in terms of interior space compared to its ICE-counter part the E-class. In fact because of the one bow design it even has less head room in the rear and far smaller trunk than a C-class wagon. If you drive an E-class you better wait for a BMW 5-series EV (i5) rumoured for 2023 or Audi A6 e-tron in 2024.
@@AOTanoos22 Tragedy in terms of interior space? It has a lot more room than E-class.
@@Hyrppa95 lmao it has less than a C-class wagon.
10:58: I believe the reason for EQE AMG being so similar to EQE is that at the moment they will not have the scale for the EQE to make it worth to create a much different AMG. The other thing is that EQE is already optimized for aerodynamics. They do not want to make it worse, since range is important.
The problem is they have to be so focused on drag because of Range so they can’t add much to Amg versions. Which makes them not worth buying
That's not correct, the Tesla Model S has the lowest drag coefficient and looks great. The Kia ev6 even looks better than this. Except for the ugly front the Porsche Taycan looks better all the way around.
Current AMG owner. I know my next car would be an EV, but the EQ design is hard to accept(Porsche Taycan is so beautiful), and I do not need that hyperscreen on the dashboard. Please sone physical buttons.
Waiting for the EQE Shooting Break!!!!
"Bar of soap" is still quite friendly, ik you ask me... Porsche and (sometimes) BMW show that electric cars don't need to look like blobs
💯 agree been electric doesn’t need to look strange. If something they need to make the look more appealing.
The EQE rear light is the only thing that i like …. Lets hope new ICE will be kept for longer than 2030 …
I agree with every resemblance you've made about the exterior. the interior is amazing though... and just like you, I dont find the sectoring of the hyperscreen amazing.
On Point.🙏🏼
I've heard this time and time again. Moral of the story is pointless getting the AMG unless you want better styling. I'm sold
I watched this the other day before you took it down? How come?
I find it beautiful, I hope you’re right and later releases create some depreciation, which means I can afford a used one some day.
I wonder if regenerative breaking will wear out carbon ceramics faster.
Looks nice
I loved the design of the Vision EQS and yes, the production models aren't quite like that but they are futuristic and cool looking in my oponion. I like the EQE/EQS models a lot; it still is all in the eye of the beholder ... isn't it! 😉🙂
The AMG VISION EV you were talking about is a concept at the moment as Mercedes has confirmed that a production version of the VISION AMG will debut in 2025 in a all new platform called AMG.EA, a platform dedicated for performance cars.
It may grow on me with time but it looks hideous, like a big jelly bean. I would gladly give up a few miles of range for something that is beautiful to look at.
I'm very pro-electric but I'd take than beautiful wagon too.
Think I'm the only person in the world that likes the design, it's slippery and futuristic.
This is Michael. This review is the best EQE review the whole internet. Graphics are interesting, camera angles just right, the drive was well done, drone shots were nice; it was just a great review. I also agree with everything you said about the car except for the view of the vehicle from the rear. The light bar going across the back is a great idea. Mercedes is still under the impression that EVs need to look frumpy like something your grandmother wants to drive. But an AMG model that looks like this is absurd. The ONLY reason I would get this car is for the hyper screen, but you can't get it in the 43 model which is down right nasty of Mercedes to do. The exterior is a deal breaker. Looks like the Tesla Model S is still the best choice. hopefully the EQE AMG will improve in 3 years.
Will there be an EQE 63?
It would better explained about the designed regarding the drag coefficient. You can't have a box and expect range to be spectacular. Design a vehicle based on your merits and sell it. I am awaiting entry into the NA market...
Are there any rumours of an estate version yet ?
I like it... but the dream is the e63 wagon e-performance or something. Taycan Cross Turismo is tough competition.
How many D cells does it use
EQC coming out?
They did many things with the car that is counterproductive to the range (no heat pump, heavy materials etc.) so the EQE having this shape because of aero efficiency & range is bs, especially if we look at the EQXX which is far better looking and has better aero, i start believing Gorden Wagener thinks this “one bow” design genuinely looks good. Never been a fan of Gorden Wagener anyways, had some good designs over the past years but generally more screw ups than good designs. He’ll make Mercedes loose millions if not billions in the EV market if he keeps up this design, imo Mercedes should have warned him when he came up with the current S-class and sacked him when he came up with the EQS’ design.
At this point, Gorden Wagener is caught up in his own hubris. He believes that everything he makes is just wisdom and forward-looking, often without considering the opinions of the people that may actually buy and use these things + he doesn't handle criticism very well. I once had him delete my reply to his personal IG, for saying that I didn't like the design of the EQS.
@@tbn22 yea im no designer but there are a couple of design philosophies from him that bugged me like him saying: 'If you like it, take a line off. If you still like it, take another line off'."...well my friend that's how we ended up with designs and rear ends looking like a shapeless sack. Car designers just like fashion designers live in their own bubble and sometimes they tend to get more and more extreme with their designs as they always look for the next big thing, just like fashion designers designing ugly cloths for the catwalk that no one ever will wear, designers need to get slapped back into reality every once in a while imo, which Mercedes failed to do.
@@AOTanoos22 I love the whole Mercedes lineup that was introduced with the W222 S-Class. Those cars are such a joy to experience, both as an onlooker observing one pass by, and also for the guy driving one. I get that they want to make the car as aerodynamic as possible, but as you said, they use no heat pump, and the cars are heavy as a mountain range. Also, as Raz explained, the soap bar design doesn't really help at all, when the range is similar to the Taycan (one of the least efficient EVs in terms of range).
It is very very clear that these radically different designs are an exercise in "destroying the old for the new". A world where individualism is no longer allowed, and where everything has to look and feel the same. If the car is "up for questioning", as everything is these days, then why is it always the radical and challenging ideas that receive respectful consideration, while the conservative and familiar get labelled as "old and outdated". It is difficult to have this discussion when it gets so blatantly one-sided.
Because of this, and because of the encounter I experienced, I've lost a lot of respect for Gorden Wagener. The guy needs a reality check. I have not seen any review, video or article about these two models that don't mention how ugly they look.
Absolutely agree!
The Volkswagen group are crushing it in the EV scene. The E-Tron and Taycan look *LEAGUES* better than anything coming out of Munich and Mercedes’ region of Stuttgart… and this is coming from a BMW/Benz fanboy. :(
Interior and sounds are sublime. Exterior is an abject abomination
I’ve never bought any other car but a Merc. I’ve had 20 and currently driving an GT63S. I will never buy an EQ in the current guise. Revolting.
Portland, JAMAICA in the Building !!!!!!!
You should have compared it more to E53 or E63s AMG cars
I wouldn't call that acceleration sound "brutal" 🤣
Really sad that Mercedes made it a technical marvel but dropped the ball on the design of the EQE and EQS. For half the cost, there are much better looking cars. Even a pre-owned S-class coupe will turns more heads any damn day.
Great review - I like that you do have good things to say without harping 100% on the exterior design. I agree it could be better. If you’ve sat in a Taycan, it’s pretty obvious how much interior cabin space suffers due to its design. It looks great and performs well, but the EQE would be better as a daily driver. So it’s depending on your priorities. My personal opinion is that the EQS looks great driving on the road next to other cars - it’s different and has a “spaceship” look to it. Some people like that.
All the EQ series are hideous.
AMG is trying so hard. Unfortunately they are losing their mind. This car will NEVER appeal to AMG buyers any time soon. I think the full electric amg is a doomed concept. A electric/4 cyl amg engine is the only choice for amg fans. Most of us are losing the passion for fast cars with a soul and sound thus will buy boring family suvs and call the end to the fun. I was invited to drive the EQS and I founded it way over the top with blink and silly stuff. These cars look weird, are too heavy, too many fillers, no passion or handling. M2 is my next purchase,
Can't agree more, will be impossible to justify enourmous price tags in the future for cars....
Yeah, I mean no. AMG and EV should never appear in the same sentence so, when you say "terrible", to me it means unfathomable, absurd, bloody unacceptable! The same goes for "M" and "RS" and the likes. In my mind, the future of the automotive industry is bleak, to say the least. I consider myself a very open-minded person, being a computer wiz and all, but I will never be able to come to terms with an exhaustless car. Ok, eventually, given where the market is heading for, I'll be forced to get one myself but I do hope that day is still in a very distant future, like star trek future 😂
EV ≠ enthusiast driving machine with current battery tech. One day the technology will get there but for now they’re daily appliances. Taycan is an exception but it still lacks many elements from gas cars.
You should work as an AMG EQXX Designer
WHY IS THERE NO NIGHT PACKAGE
Reupload?
That has got to be the coolest launch control sound ever 😎😎😎
One of the best looking cars I have ever seen, except all of those ugly screens inside.
I have to agree with you on all points. But we shouldn’t be surprised as this new MB trend of all models looking same is just multiplying. Look at the AMG GT 4 door, you can order a GT43 to look like a GT63. Now MB has taken the trend to an EQE 53 that looks like Standard EQE. Comments from the younger crowd are posting that it’s not what it looks like, it’s what it does that counts. Well, let’s see if they will shell out the money and buy one. I say, vote with your wallet. I for one who owned 3 of the V8 CLS63s, I can assure you my money is no longer with AMG since the C43 was introduced and I will certainly pass on the current offerings, ok maybe a G63 I would go for honestly but that’s it.
I don't like the way it looks and I despise the hyperscreen (which, as you said, is just 3 different screens under one glass cover rather than one dashboard-shaped screen Merc wants you to think it is). Man, this is just another excuse to get a Taycan instead.
What I want to know is when will Mercedes come out with a key fob that has a touchscreen on it? Like what BMW has done, already!
I just can't shake the exterior looks like a 2009 Honda Civic Si with a German bodykit..
Hang on, am I quantum leaping again?...I watched this vid yesterday
I love the hyperscreen!
AMG should ditch these EV efforts and stick with what they're good at..... V8s
10:42 DID YOU JUST EXPOSE THE UNRELEASED AMG C43🎉🎉🎉🎉
Sorry Honda Civic but great review
Just to think that a model X Plaid would leave this in the dust. The long way legacy automakers still have to go to get there…
Telsas are joke cars
These cars are like skateboards the same platform just the body around changes just like iphones
And?
TLDW; Good: RGB lighting and fake noises. Bad: Everything else.
It's gorgeous, that's all.
Mercedes isn't competing against itself! They are competing against other OEMs that stated their cars are in the luxury lines with fit/finish/etc. and clearly they are not for the same price...
Thanks for your honesty. Awful design (bar soap) lol 100% true.
Agree on the design , it’s hideous and worse design of mercades I wonder if they have good sales on those ?!!…Taycan on the other hand has some much presence way more
Why does the Infotainment/HMI look like the old Windows Media Player
The acceleration would be impressive if the Plaid didn't exist
Bizarre even to use AMG namesake on new breed Merc, EV. Blows my brains
I hope Mercedes improved the design for EV car, at least make it beautiful just like Porsche Taycan.
Not only do they look lackluster but the dash is TOO high in every MB electric car. Without an engine up front there is no reason you have to look up and over the intermant cluster and dash. Almost every other EV on the market has better forward visibility.
I just couldn't daily drive a car that ugly, no matter the performance. Love the Infinity Gauntlet sound though, time to Thanos snap quarter mile times out
I have the same feeling about AMG EQE - the design is bland (trying to be kind here), it doesn't feel like an AMG. Take a away the badges you can say it's a generic Japanese or Korean family sedan. Very disappointing. 🤷♂️
This might be the point we look back to in a few years and say EV was the death of AMG. I hope that doesn't turn out to be true, but this is disappointing.
Alcantara steering wheel in dis😝😝
Mercedes and AMG design team need to re-think and reimagine their interior design. You can pin point from which periods previous/old Mercedes car are from just by looking at the interior design, the steering wheel, the buttons and screens. Why does an EV, that has been developed for getting the longest range as possible have 3 digital screens that's using electricity for selecting things that could've had buttons, switches and knobs instead that are tactile and safer to use whilst driving.. you dont need to look down/where you are touching and pressing, you can feel it with your finger tips.. Mercedes and AMG are going absolutely in the wrong direction.
Only the hyperscreen is good nothing else to shout about
The design is just so basic vanilla. Not sure if Mercedes can maintain that ultra premium Mark that they used to have
That design is a total MISS by MB. I think it's going to take a few model years for the designers to figure out the aero and make it look good.
I like the technology of these cars, but never the look( especially with this color)
I’m going to buy a regular engine Mercedes and hope when they redesign these, they will get it right. With that said, I’m not hearing nearly as much negativity about this car I’m real life as I do online. I think they will actually sell decently!
More expensive than the current ICE cars and a boring bland design, I’m not so sure. As a current Mercedes owner and long term buyer I won’t be buying one unless the design changes drastically
I've been living in germany for a few years now and see all these new cars on the roads pretty quickly after release...except these EQ Mercs. They're so freaking ugly. I think anyone in the market for something like this just end up going with Tesla.
i cant belive what mercedes has done , such a good enginiered car, ruined by a huge factor wich will affect the sale numbers , the exterior design is so bad , thank you for being honest and telling mercedes that you did a huge mistake going after number in this case aero coificent , who cares about aero when the thing is the ugly car in the entire class , i dont know any ev that is uglier than this
Ive owned Mercedes, Porsche, Audi, GM(Ugh, don't hold that against me) and Infinity sport and luxury cars. I've always gone back to Mercedes. Just love the design, handling, and attention to detail. But this car is one ugly big bubble. Ooff. I'm hoping for more from AMG in the future.
Looks like someone has painted a dolphin blue and put some wheels on it. The whole mercedes EV range looks terrible.
Its shame watching TH-cam car reviewers nowadays, promoting electric cars…
Merc has the worst looking EV cars on market.
Hyundai and kia have better looking evs.