Wilwood Clutch and Brake Pedal Conversion - Firewall Mount Triple Master Cylinder Assembly
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- The manual shift conversion on the 1973 Mustang takes a giant step forward with the installation of the Wilwood Brake and Clutch Pedal assembly! The trick part that helps make the install a little easier for the home builder is the new Firewall Mount Kit from Wilwood, part number 250-13167, that helps locate the pedals in just the right position around the steering column.
In this video, I'll explain how to measure and mount the whole assembly in just about any car. All it takes is a little common sense, ingenuity and light fabrication skills.
The pedal assembly used in this application is the Forward Mount, 6.25:1 ratio, Adjustable Triple Master Cylinder. Part number 340-11295. www.wilwood.com...
With this highly tune-able piece in the car, I can now dial in the driving controls to my personal taste. Plus, I wanted to not only convert the car from automatic transmission to a manual shift, but I wanted to make sure it was a hydraulic clutch mechanism as well. This unit solves both tasks...and looks amazing.
After a lot of shopping around, I found a Lokar throttle pedal that worked perfect for this application. The pedal is designed for the earlier Mustangs but fits this setup well.
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I know this is an older video but it is still very relevant. I am putting this Wilwood system in a 66 Chevy II and was very concerned about the ability of the firewall alone to handle the wear and tear of actually driving the car. I appreciate the advice and the images of the support structures. It will help a great deal. thanks
Really glad to hear this and appreciate you taking a moment to share, thank you!
They look awesome and a proper top swing pedal will always be more comfortable than a floor mounted set up
Totally agree!
Damn I came to this channel for the brake line flaring and bending video. Amazing how one dude can make such quality content and shots of the work on par with the Speed channel. 👍🏻
Thanks so much!!! If you keep checking through the mustang videos... it's a really fun driver now!
Nice work. I want to do a t56 swap into my car and will probably do this
I knew there was a lot that went into a conversion like this but I hadn't considered the support mechanisms you'd have to have to keep the pedals and mounting bracket stable. Great video Jason. ttyl -Drew
+Supradrew™ Yup, that's the part that actually took more time. Getting them in the right spot wasn't as hard as I thought it would be. Now I just need to get that clutch figured out....
awesome to see you back at it, ready to see some progress on the mustang!
+Robert Ritchey Lots to do...I'm digging in!
I just got done going a big brake kit front and rear on our Jeep jk! I don't have the videos up yet, but I've found that brakes can be fun when the vehicle and all the parts are new lol.
+Rocky X TV Which brand brake kit did you install on your JK? I'm might try to get the Wilwood kit for mine.
autoedit I went with TeraFlex, upgraded to the slotted rotors as well. Went from 11" single pistons to 13.5" and dual piston calipers. I'm pretty sure Wilwood makes a kit for the JK but it seems more race inspired rather than trail, just my two cents. Thanks for the reply!
I really need this for my beetle! Nice job.
Thanks... they make a floor mount version of this as well which might work better for the beetle!
Hey Jason, I've learned a lot watching your video's keep up the good work.
Hey Thanks!
Hey bro where have you been miss your videos best on TH-cam
I'm here! Just got this project car started and will be doing a video on the current status this weekend.
Can you post what size masters you used? I am looking to do a very similar setup. Also, how did the car feel without a brake booster?
This helped me allot. I've been looking for this information type of information for a while now.
thanks I'm getting close to plumbing the brakes on a 56 studebaker truck and I'm leaning towards the nicop looking forward to your response
this is an amazing build series. I've been looking for one this detailed. definitely earned my sub
Awesome man! Really awesome. Great video and great explanation on the brake system.
Hey Jason love the videos have watched everyone and been following the build to get ideas for my project I have a 2 door 68 ford falcon futura I'm wanting to do the same as you basically and and the suspension and disc brakes and convert to manual but I'm having trouble finding some of the stuff i can't seem to find a rear coil over kit
I've been thinking about going with a manual brakes set up on my car as well
I can't wait until this thing is finally finished, even though i'm loving these videos.
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I somehow forgot my login password. I would appreciate any tricks you can give me
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@Phillip Manuel I really appreciate your reply. I found the site through google and Im in the hacking process atm.
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@Phillip Manuel It did the trick and I actually got access to my account again. Im so happy!
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@Kaiser Chaim Glad I could help =)
Hello I like the steering column you have in the car wondering where I can buy it?
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@@AutoEdits thanks
Can you list the part numbers of the master cylinders? Just want to know what ones to order to replicate this complete setup.
Thank you. I'd give you two thumbs up if I could!
Thank you! I'd give to hearts if I could!
so how did this setup work for you ?
I have a 69 camaro and I want to mimic your setup. what size masters are you running for the brakes and clutch ?
Great video sir can't wait until this baby is finished she's gonna have to be put on a magazine cover
+Mackenzie Yarbough Welllllll, maybe. If it looks like the car I picture in my head...it'll be pretty cool looking! Glad to hear from you Mackenzie!
Hey Jason I really like the videos you put up. Great stuff and I added some of the parts you used to my list of wants for my car.
Well my question is, is there anything I need to do or know when going from power to manual brakes? I got a 68 Mercury cougar and I wanna put that set up you put in your car.
Nice work! But let's see more of the Wrangler!
+alan jackson Roger that...started shooting Wrangler videos today! Hint, it might have something to do with 37" BFG's and it's going hilariously bad so far.
+autoedit I 2nd that. You shoot great videos and are easy to listen to and follow. I own a 2012 JKU and run a 3" BDS lift with 315/70/17 Nittos. Want to go to 37's and 4:88 gears so anxious to see your build come together.
+Orange Crusher How do you like that BDS lift? I'm planning on lifting my 2012JKU this summer.
+alan jackson Had it installed a couple of weeks after I purchased my JKU in 2012. I have not had any issues with it at all. Its got a lifetime warranty so you cant go wrong there. "We back our commitment to engineering reliable, quality 4x4 off-road Jeep and truck suspension products with our unique "No BS Hardcore Lifetime Warranty".If you are the original purchaser of any BDS lift kit and it breaks, we will give you a new part. Period."
Nice video, subscribed to see more.
I would like to do this upgrade on my 65 mustang project. What is the part number on the 3 master cylinders you used? Also, are there any other parts I would need other than the mounting plate, pedals, and MCs? Thanks, in advance, for your help.
Did you ever show in a video how you shaped and welded in the new firewall piece?
I don't think I did.
I'm building a 51 willeys 4x4 with a full floating dana 60 front & a dana 70 rear. The front brakes are 2009 dodge ram 3500 & the rear brakes are 2006 GM 3500. Will the master cylinders & reservoirs you have in your car move enough fluid for what I'm trying to do, or do I need something bigger? I really dig this set up, I gotta run something like it in my willeys.
Jason Great Video, I am also installing the wildwood pedals and a t5 transmission in my 68 fastback. What is the part number of maker and part number of the hydraulic throwout bearing you are using? Also did you use a 3/4 mastercylinder bore for that bearing?
Hey man can I get a pn# for the gas pedal? Have an lsx/t56 swapped 86 cutlass and would love that pedal, already have the same wilwood setup as you. Great build!!!
What is the firewall and engine bay coated with? Looks great
+Carlos DeLaTorre That's the spray can bed liner. I just apply it so the texture is nicer for an engine bay.
Great video! The one guy who disliked it is a very confused individual.
+Yuri Azarenkov HaHa...not so worried about that stuff. Being able to chat with you guys makes up for any of that nonsense! Thanks for taking a moment to say hey!
Oh its always fun watching your videos man! I learn a lot from you and can't wait to see large Marge cruise again.
hello! I have a 65 Mustang Fastback with Willwood brakes but I would like to change the Willwood brake pedal and clutch as well. Do you know which kit is correct? thank you
hey mate, nice video! what was the deciding factor for going with the dual master cylinder as opposed to a single with a brake booster? how is the pedal feel? stiff?
I'm worried without the booster that it might feel as stiff as the all drum setup I have on my mustang.. but I have the wilwood disc set ready to go in.. thanks,
+Troy Dawson It was mostly due to the fact that I wanted the really cool Wilwood pedals in this car. By the time I added up buying a stock clutch and brake pedal and master cyclinder... this option ended up only costing $50 more (all in) but required more labor to fabricate the install and it is totally worth it! I'll let you know how the pedal feels after the system is bled.
How hard was it to adjust the balance between rear and front brakes with the balance bar. I hear it can be tricky
It's not hard to adjust at all. The trick is in the initial setup and the key is to set both adjusters about the thickness of a quarter from the inside washer so they are pushing straight. That way when you do the balance adjustment they stay in perfect alignment.
@@AutoEdits was it preset for the balance?
@@wldtang Nope, not even close... took a few minutes to setup properly.
Is this pedal fits on 1969 mustang?
With some fabrication, yes.
How is the driving experience without a break booster?
Awesome... took some getting used to because the pedal is firm but I love it. th-cam.com/video/qSJ72eAVZFU/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/E5yeNDPPZOM/w-d-xo.html
what are the part numbers for the master cylinders you have used??? thanks!
Jason, What was the p/n of the Lokar pedal?
Scott Goodwin must be the Lokar BAG6115
Love the ride Jason, keep it up. Oh yeah first comment.
+Adrian Matthews Haha! Thanks dude.
anytime, been watching your videos for a while. You've had some cool projects.
Would that kit work if I'am using a hydroboost unit?
I don't think so. The tandem master cylinder would for sure and be an easier install.
haven't seen the mustang in a while how is it coming?
What’s the purpose of the three reservoirs?
Front brakes, rear brakes and clutch.
Does this system not require a brake booster anymore?
I'm designing this system specifically to eliminate the booster. Lots of equations to take into account. It's much easier to add a booster later.
i have these wilwood pedals im about to start fabbing a bracket for.. if i recall, the steering column mounts off the stock pedal bracket on a 68 mustang and that has to be removed.. do you have to fab a bracket for the column? or do you know??
I used the stock steering wheel drop bracket.
Can this fit like on a honda civic 1986,
6 years later, how did it withhold?
Up until I sold this project... the pedals performed amazing. Absolutely phenomenal product.
@@AutoEdits did you do a video showing how to bleed dual masters or balance bar systems
@@davecaresforyou7606 I didn't. It's the same process, very easy.
@@AutoEdits I tried to bleed one at a time with balance bar and it wouldn’t bleed all the way so stopped bad
@@AutoEdits did you have a balance bar set up as I don’t remember and you m being told I have to bleed one front and one back caliper at once
sold the 302 and bought a 351w to go in my 73
+TheSamplebridge Cool, more cubic inch means more power!
Yeah sold the 302. The guy took it to a shop and the shop said it looked brand new. Didn't even need bored over .030
Gonna put heads, cam intake and carb on the 351. Looking for about 350-400HP
what about the brake bleeding video or am i just not finding it on youtube?
Haven't done that yet on the Mustang.
Could this be used on a 1953 Chevy 210?
Sure!
gas pedal seems a little low for heel tow
+ImEnhalos Actually, in my experience for a sporty street car, it's safer to have the pedal slightly lower so that you don't hit the throttle accidentally when braking around town.
can the nicop line be double flared ?
It seems like it would. Next week I'll do a test and see.
one of the metale beracts are not welded
How do these pedals and master cylinders do in a autocross or track day setting since they have no brake booster? I’d like to do this to my 69 Mustang, but I’m wondering how they perform.
I haven't driven this vehicle on the road yet but I have raced cars with this exact setup and liked it very much.
autoedit Thanks for the reply. I think I’m going to go with a setup like yours. Maybe floor mount though. Will make the car more of a driver’s car!
Great job! Did that fancy Firewall Plate have drilled fasteners for safety wire, I could not tell in the video?
i have a Brake booster on my brakes, so what will i need to do to use a set up like this?
Patrick Dick
Either fine tune the parts as described in the latter half of this video, or use the booster and separate cylinders in oem fashion. Basically just copy the oem setup, or go all in and hire a shop to basically redo your hydraulics.