What is the Mustang Mach-E's Real World Range?
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Ford's all-new Mustang Mach-E is an electric crossover that comes (for now), with RWD or AWD, and with a smaller battery, or a larger one. This is the AWD with extended battery, which Ford estimates will go 270 miles on one charge. In this video we test the real-world range of the Mach-E by taking a mixed-road journey on highways and two-lane side roads to see what range a driver would expect from the Mach-E Extended Battery.
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Maybe the 6% battery use on “outside temp” is the computer factoring the charge loss due to chilly outdoor temps.
That's what I was thinking, it might need to spend some energy heating the battery to the ideal temperature.
Exactly, the manual states: "Exterior Temperature - This includes energy losses due to outside temperature and other conditions which reduce vehicle system efficiency."
This could be a big problem for people that live in cold climates
Yeah it was pretty clear I thought
@Steven Turner which is a shame because at 0°F I feel like you’d be most likely to want to get as far away as possible.
The upside to all of this range anxiety is it will hopefully make people do more math
Yeah, like a truck driver or an air pilot.
@A M lol! Yeah, ev drivers are like airline pilots. They have to calculate before going on a drive.
@A M u have basically contradicted urself😂
@A M mate. Plz😂
@A M the clownery 🤡 of urs...
One of the positive things about the “phone is your key” thing is that the Mach E recognizes which driver is using it based on your phone, and then tailors range estimates to who is driving it. So if you always drive aggressively but your spouse drives very eco friendly, your range estimates will be different.
I'm pretty sure there's a few manufacturer's that do that with individual key fobs.
@J B lol EV guys always think Tech is invented exclusively and specifically for EV's and couldn't possibly be in other things
I hate this approach, can’t tell you how many times I’ve gotten into my car with a dead phone
@@googleleavemynamealone9145 Do you see the car in my profile picture? I daily drive a 1979 Camaro. I am most certainly not an EV guy, and show me where I said that Ford invented this technology. I was simply pointing out that the Mach E had this feature.
@@kev8682 That's when you punch in the access code into the door and enter a different code onto the screen to start the car. A dead battery on your phone won't leave you stranded.
Even if you can’t see him, he’s always a welcome addition to the One double take
I've been kickout of bars, clubs, couple of restaurants and a cinema but never a car park. That's impressive.
Actually it's a State Park and really nice, too. Bummer that Matt got 86'd from there like that.
@@realkarfixer8208 I was making a funny, but I get your point.
@@ruk2023-- I got it, still had to point it out, just the OCD in me.
@@realkarfixer8208 No worries man, it's nice to meet someone as pedantic as myself from time to time.
@@ruk2023-- Technically correct is the best kind of correct.
First good range test I’ve seen and it looks like the numbers are right where they said they’d be. If you tried hyper mileling I’d be willing to bet you’d beat expectations. Well done.
I think I saw in the Edmund's review they broke 300 miles on their test track in this model. Of course that would not transfer to real world driving conditions.
I must say, I’m a Bit excited for the performance version. All the reviews I’ve seen are quite positive.
It's out already, I think
@@georgebull7526 no. Not yet. There are two versions now but The really high performance version comes this summer.
@@jagpilotohio Yep. The GT looks incredible.
The performance version is not yet out, all the reviews has been many for the premium and a few for the select .. iMO the AWD premium is the base value that gives you the best of both worlds.. good performances, range and cost.. then again all trims are perfect value with the incentives lol
Very nice video - thanks for showing us your field test! I've been driving my Mach-E in much colder northern Michigan winter and have felt the effects of the external temperature on the range (especially during the polar vortex) and could lose 30% range in roughly zero degree weather, but now that temps are normalizing I am experiencing similar results to your work.
The exterior temp "usage" is the temp affecting the energy your pack can deliver.
Well done!! Each to their own and everything. But we need these types of vids Matt! Not as thrilling as the V8s obvs, but sooo important!! With the bollox WLTP over here, it’s great to see real world driving and how far these EVs actually go. So important. Please do more, Polestar2 etc. Bravo young man, bravo 👏🏼
From the manual regarding the How Is My Driving section of the Trip Computer:
Display’s scores for trip driving behavior. Higher scores result in better energy economy.
• Acceleration - Light to moderate acceleration will improve your score.
• Braking - Slow and steady braking is recommended.
• Speed - Maintain reasonable vehicle speeds for best scores.
So he had room for improvement, but that might require a hyper-miling attitude.
The one in VW ICE vehicles works in the city, but does not take into account highway driving, which is the most efficient at a steady speed
really great to see real world run on the Mach-e, thanks for sharing this!!!
A really informative and useful video. Great job!
Best tribute to the Mustang name yet... really reminds me of the original.
Sarcasm?
Exterior temp has to be how the outside climate affected the battery state. For example, how freezing temps hurt range as the battery needs to be heated.
Good to hear that Ford's estimates are accurate. InsideEVs did a 70mph highway test on the Model Y and got 276 mi versus the advertised 326, so the Mach-E is very close in the real world.
I have a model 3, real world range is about 70% of stated, no matter if you are driving in the city or freeway!
Wow, I just cannot imagine Elon exaggerating...😜
@@lespaulranger Same here. Not only that, your interstate travel speed can MASSIVELY affect the total range. You lose avg 40~45 miles if you go 80 mph vs 70 mph in the M3 Performance. Real world mileage in warm/moderate weather is about 11% less than advertised and 15~ish % less in cold weather give or take a few % if you have the heated seats on and temperature cranked up.
@@FastRedPonyCar Yeah I go 80mph, but average 65mph in my Model 3 2021 and get 70% of range estimate in moderate Northern CA climate.
Great real world test. My wife and I watched so boys and girls watch your shows. I've driven almost the exact route you drove except for stopping at Bill's. Looks like the Mach e did very well and I like the styling of it. Cheers!
This is excellent. Thanks, TST.
Real nice real world mix driving.. 249miles + 9 or so more remaining with mix driving up to 75+ on the freeway and local driving.. I am truly impressed... as for EPA if anyone want to test that you will need to drive at a lower highway speeds .. but no one drive at 55mph .. great 👍 to see this real world driving, stopping, even picking up a friend ... awesome!
Wonder how far it would go if you stayed off the highway. A could see this car doing 300+ with ease with a route staying on 45-65 mph roads.
@@tealruby582 I don’t know the roads or elevation he was driving on however all the different types of things he did shows this car has loads of real world range!
I can't help but think a Hyundai/Kona or Tesla EV product with a similar Cd*A would do the same trip with 20-30% higher efficiency tho...why is Ford only getting 3.1 mi/kWh even on the highway? That's pretty poor by EV standards.
@@Trendyflute well you would be wrong, my Tesla model 3 performance with 290 miles EPA range is BS because my real world driving at freeway speed 75-80mph the best I get is 208 miles to 5% SoC .. the only time I see very good range is driving at 50-55mph on the freeway and I only do that to extend my range.. so no; Tesla has very high EPA bs numbers but not good real world range .. that is the very reason I am so impressed with the Mach E ..
Nice video bro, thanks for posting
I really like what you did here. 4 hours of 'real' driving. That satisfies my curiosity.
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Great video, thanks Matt!
Thanks for this, I have high hopes for the Mach-E, hopefully you can get a GT when it comes out and give us some updated impressions.
Gaviota Wind Caves are awesome and a short hike from the parking area you drove by if you ever go back. Easy little hike and the caves are super kid friendly since theyre basically a naturally made jjungle gym. Love SB County
Cool. This was helpful. I didn't notice any percentages for regen, tho. I'll scroll down more.
Nicely done, thanks.
Exterior temp is probably the battery conditioning bringing its temperature up in the morning when it was chilly.
Great video, thanks! Any chance you could do this with a VW ID.4 if you can get your hands on one?
dude his west side garage is the hotness... so glad he finally go that place done.
Great video, enjoyed it muchly! That final 3.1 mi/kWh is a bit disappointing, though highway travel is not an EV's strong suit...still, would be nice to see at least 3.5.
For a 5000lb vehicle going 70+ mph, that's actually really respectable efficiency.
Great drive sir! My daughter goes to Cal Poly SLO. I live near Playa Vista and do that same drive periodically of course I then continue to SLO further up the 101. Now if only there were public fast charging there.
The percentages to see where the energy went and how it was used is super interesting to see. Almost 10 percent on climate? Crazy! That's way more then I would have guessed
@@simonburkeisable AC isn't nearly the range killer that heating is.
I can't get over the beginning where it looks like you pulled out of the parking lot for "the office" tv show. But this was a great review thanks. I ordered a mach e myself. Premium rwd standard range space white. I don't have a huge commute and installed a 240v charger in the garage. Not sure when it's coming tho lol
Thanks for making this. Gotta ask though, why would you sit in the middle lane if you aren't passing anyone? That's what the right-hand lane is for.
15:58 Most likely, that's referring to the impact of the outside temperature on your efficiency. Basically, it was either hot enough or cold enough to reduce your efficiency by 6%. During winter, it would probably be double digits.
Hopefully you reached out to Emma Berg at Ford to get your hands on one too?
I can't wait for the Volkswagen Id4 review!
I think 250 miles of range is really the sweet spot for an electric vehicle. Great to see this one can make that in a real world scenario.
Depends on where you live. EVs lose a lot of range in colder climates. But that range will likely work for most people. I stop every 250 when towing for gas and leg circulation.
@@jghall00 Ones without climate control for the batteries do (like the Nissan Leaf). This would still lose some, but not a significant amount.
@@Stuka87 I think even the ones with liquid pack management lose range, especially if the pack isn't conditioned before unhooking shore power.
@@jghall00 I found with my Tesla it's WAY more energy efficient to leave the heat ON(in cold temps) when going into a store than to turn the car off and let the battery cold soak. It makes a HUGE difference
400 miles
I really liked how the drive video with Zach, this video and the podcast all fit together concerning the Mach E...trifecta.
And I get why they call it a Mustang. Because it does bare resemblance to the Mach 1... in my opinion.
Ok maybe not...lol
New video new car, day just got a bit better
Ah memories, I came over and spent a week doing the PCH from Huntington Beach up to San Francisco. 1998, in a bloody Sebring 🤦🏼♂️
Exterior temperature might be the amount of energy used by the battery to keep the battery within its optimal temperature operating range, relative to the external environmental factors: mostly temperature.
Good realistic test. High speed kills range and the climate control took a surprising amount of energy. This tells me you can usually use plenty of go-pedal since I'm seldom anything like 250 miles from a charger. It also tells me that doing a little hypermiling will work well if I get short of charge and have to limp to a charger. Thanks!
I cant believe ive been subscribed to the channel for 9 years
I remember the videos you used to make with super speeders rob
Fastest one to get a ticket 😂😂🤣
16:00 Heat loss from the internal resistance of the battery. heats is dissipated through the battery surface and through the cooling system
I would definitely choose this over a Model Y if I were looking to buy an EV. No question about it...
The 7500 federal tax credit makes it worth the risk of a new model. Ford is on the right track. The Tesla model Y has a history and is a great vehicle.
Would cross shop both, no matter which I liked more on paper. Excited for Tesla to get some real competition.
@@garygw I have a Tesla. Build quality is junk. I'd give the Mach E a try in a heartbeat
Exterior Temp refers to the fact that your range will be different due to the external ambient temperature.EVs typically do best between 50-75 degrees F. Partly due to battery chemistry, but also because of reduced vehicle HVAC system use at those temperatures.
Bro... love the True Romance soundtrack
nice to see that the range figures keep what promised! as for EVs, wouldn't a sort of overdrive better the range (compared to it being singlespeed) or would the power loss from a transmission worsen the range?
I'd imagine exterior temp has an effect on the battery. Batteries don't hold as much charge if they are cold etc
Exterior temp must be the Mach-E keeping the battery warm/cool versus outside?
That was an interesting choice of music...
🐎🏁congratulations on 1M🎉
Hopefully this video gets plenty of views. The Mach E is such a great vehicle.
Exterior temperature is probably for battery cooling due to the outside ambient air temperature
Great video, unfortunately 248mi probably a little less when the rest of USA is in 30’s and 40’s. Still great video, how many kWh to charge from 9mi to 250?
I knew a Bill's sandwich was going to factor into the re-routing. So good.
If I can get 400km daily usage here in the Vancouver BC area and lower mainland this unit will work for me w standard RWD option which I can afford
Would be optimal to have used the preconditioning and reduced the heating while driving
I would hate to worry about range and planning road trips based on charging ports. That would be topic of conversation through the whole ride with family.
Exactly! These things are interesting, but ultimately, simply stylish, expensive, grocery getters. Not really practical for people who take actual "trips". Until the physics/battery tech can allow you to "fill it up" in 10ish minutes, I won't purchase one, and I could afford it if I wanted to, no problem.
@@simonburkeisable I understand. Once again. NOT practical, for me, at $50k+. I go on 700-800 mile drives, in a single day. I realize most people don't. Now if they'd charge me $10-15k for the fancy go-kart, to only use around town, fine. But that's not the case. It sounds like the MachE is a good choice, in it's segment. Just not for me 😉
Ext temp might be the heat losses? KInd of neat if they indeed isolate it from drive delivered.
Apropos of nuthin’, what do you think of that light gray interior? Did you scuff/stain it during your week with the car? It looks good in the video.
Would have liked to have heard what the recharge time was after draining it down to 9 miles.
I’m impressed the mache can get this close to 270 miles with the heater on and most miles driven on highway at 72mph. I don’t know if my Tesla model 3 could achieve that. The guy was bundled up like it was chilly (but he is in SoCal so how cold could it have really been?
I would imagine exterior temp is from environmental effects on the battery pack. The batteries give less or more charge based on how hot it is outside
Good video
Regen helped more in stop and go driving than in highway driving.
I was wondering if regenerative breaking is factored into the manufacturer's claim. Like listing a petrol cars HWY MPG only.
Love the new Mustang Maki, brilliant name there marketing team lol
11:15
Quality podcast 👌🏻
Matt, did you pre-heat the battery pack and pre-heat the cabin on the charger before leaving? That can save you some energy and extend the range.
I did not, I just showed up and drove
@Peter Evans what lol
@Peter Evans Actually if you do the math on the Watt hours per mile divided by the usable battery capacity it would’ve made it 270 miles. The display range left is overly pessimistic. The whole point of warming up the battery and cabin on the charger is to extend the range. And the Tesla model Y long range gets about the same range (270-280 miles) despite the claimed 320+ mile EPA range.
@Peter Evans It’s basic math. Matt averaged 322.5wH/mi and the Mach-E long range has 88kWh of usable battery capacity. Let’s do the math 88,000/322.5 = 272.8 miles of range. Go ahead and tell me where the math is wrong. I won’t hold my breath.
@Peter Evans As I expected you wrote a bunch of nonsense without refuting the basic math. Not really surprised at this point. I am using the actual data from Matt Farah’s drive and not some theoretical consumption numbers. You don’t seem to be entertaining the most basic explanation which is that the Mach’E
S remaining mileage calculation leaves about 15 miles of buffer so that you don’t get stranded on the side of the road with no battery left.
I keep thinking of different things to be concerned about: Will the battery maintain the same change in 3-4 years? What range will you get with the heat or air condition on? How will the battery perform in a real winter with below freezing temperatures for months at a time?
Your answers are specific to lith-ion batteries, not really a specific car
- Matt used AC during this trip. It used about 10% of the battery
- Modern lith-ion batteries do not see significant capacity losses year over year. Model S from 2012 can still charge up to 90% of original capacity. Tech has only gotten better since.
- Expect to lose about 10-25% in cold weather. But again, cold doesn't "hurt" batteries, it just makes them less efficient.
I imagine Ford's 170 miles figure leans conversative and is what you'd expect on a 15 degree day in Ann Arbor. 250 for nice CA weather and 170 for Michigan sounds about right.
Also, for now at least, Ford has locked out the top and bottom portions of the batteries' actual capacity, so you can never either fully charge or fully discharge them. That will likely help the longevity of the batteries over time, even if Ford unlocks more via an over-the-air update in the future.
@@tealruby582 Matt misspoke at the end; the estimated range of this model is *270,* not 170. Your points remain valid.
Oxnard is near to where my cousin and family lives ... Ventura. Greetings from GERMANY. (looking so much for a review about the Mach E 2WD extended battery)
Congrats on 1Million
Interested to know how hot the car will get in the summer with that roof.
I've heard a lot of comments from Mustang fans that hate on the Mach E. Being the owner of a (genuine) '70 Boss 302, I can understand it to an extent. BUT, this is the 1st 'Mustang' ever in which I can carry a drum kit. That is a big thing, bro.
Cool vid but what kind of sunglasses are those? They are slick...
I avoid that pothole multiple days a week but I go on the right side
The things about EVs are mileage will vary if you expect to take a trip over 200 miles often an EV may not be for you. in California you can drive around cities easily before hitting 200 miles of range and do a quick charge for 30 mins and pretty much get anywhere in SoCal. just be responsible and charge your car every other day and you will learn to fall in love. Look how far cellphones and battery tech have improved in the past 15 years EVs haven’t even been mainstream in the industry for 10 years. These cars have much to improve on but for many can be used daily just fine.
4:39....ah, going down the conejo grade into my neighborhood I see! lol
Hey, what range you guys see when you fully charge your mach-e? Please say if it's extended range / AWD, etc.
The thing to look at will be how there battery holds up
Funny how batteries have made 'man takes car for a drive' interesting. Can't even do that legally here in the UK right now!
Dude, talking with a mouth full of sticky protein bar, epic fail 🤣
At 17:15 you said Ford estimated 170 on the sticker? I though you said earlier it was 270..or?
He made a verbal error.
Hey Matt, do like the Urban Gentry and do a watch check at the beginning of each video.
I don’t know what that is and I’m wearing a Bremont World timer
@@TheSmokingTire The Urban Gentry is a popular watch enthusiast YT channel. At the beginning of each video the host shows and explains to the audience the watch he's wearing that day.
Anyone know where to get the suction cup mount he is using for the GoPro hero8 looking at the dash?
when I saw that this car had a cooler in the frunk I thought to myself man does Ford know their customers
Oh wow, I didn't realize how bad the roads have become in LA. Huge potholes.
does it show on monitor where each charging station is
The computers for fuel economy in the Mustang averages your last three "tanks" when estimating range. So it's not uncommon to see it saying less, based on your driving style.
He does the same thing over train tracks that i do. Hold on with both hands and brace for a bumpy ride.
I kind of get the feeling that this is his favorite car ever!!
Nice!
This video is back... Wanted to see what happens after getting the sandwich
250 real world is a great first effort from Ford. I expect them to be at 300-350 at ease within the next few yrs.
That's great in warm area's. In the north east taking a 40% hit due to winter temperatures really makes you charge a LOT
@@tonyc6996 Maybe if you had an older Leaf. Even with a 150 mile real world range, you would still only need to charge overnight on a 240V outlet for most days. On a 4-5 hour trip, like in the video you would need to charge once for 20 minutes to over an hour. Definitely more inconvenient than gas, but still quite feasible...
@@OlJackBurton 150-40% is 90 miles. No way that's feasible for a daily even if you charged every night
@@tonyc6996 Where did you get 90 miles from? The 150 miles i cited came from multiplying the 250 mile "real world" range tested in this very video in CA weather, by 60%. Or 250 miles x .6 = 150 miles a day "real world" if you live in Antarctica, where it still isn't freezing all year round in some areas. Why would you take another 40% off? Also that 40% reduction is the maximum reduction which includes using full heat and accessories, not the average reduction in cold weather. Now for you, 150 miles a day might be usual, 2-3 hours of driving a day at highway speeds depending on traffic, 54,000 miles a year and oil changes every month or more.
For the vast majority of people, 100 miles a day (or even 90 miles) will be enough; most people don't drive 36,500 miles a year or more and usually get their oil changed every 3 months or more. And they usually see less than 100 days of freezing weather, so their average range on most days is well over 150 miles (or even 90 miles) on a full charge. The bigger issue will be the longer road trips or business trips or out of city/state traveling (4-5 hours or more) where you will need to find a charging station and deal with the non-Tesla network and variable charging speeds of 10 minutes to well over an hour. It shouldn't be a deal breaker though. Now an older Leaf with a 70 mile range with the hypothetical "40%" reduction and no garage to park it and charge it or protect it from the winter and late fall elements and a commute longer than 15 miles one way? Yeah, that old Leaf or a similar ranged BEV wouldn't work out for that person...
@@OlJackBurton the leaf you referenced keep up
I believe you are going to make it.
I have the extended range awd and only getting 190 miles of range. and theories?
It probably has a few miles left in it after it gets to zero, so I would believe this gets to 270 miles of range w/ no problem
..."probably"..."I believe"...
true. most ford cars can run at least 20 miles after the gage reads zero
...it's a calculable number...fuel in reserve ÷ mpg...if the battery is not binary as most modern lithium ions then somewhere there is a spec of what's there when the gauge reads empty/zero...
...or just like gas you could start when the light comes on and run it empty...
3.1 m/kw x 88 kw = 272.8
Ext Temp is for battery heating or cooling
remember, batteries (not just in EVs) are less efficient in cooler weather. So if it was warmer outside you would most likely have more range.
Damn imagine living somewhere actually cold lol
Is that Zuckerman's M5 outside your window at 13:52?