Guys, THIS REVIEW IS FULL OF MISINFORMATION !!!! The guy owns a Mach-e and IS TOTALLY BIASED !!!!!!!!!!!!!! The route planner in ID.4 can be filtered for loading activities with> 50kW ... you have not done the previous study and you are misleading people. THERE IS TRAVEL ASSIST ON THE ID.4 THAT IT'S ALMOST AUTONOMOUS DRIVING !!!! YOU ARE BIASED OR AT LEAST YOU ARE NOT DOING YOU JOB RIGHT! THE ID.4 DOES HAVE AUTO-HOLD !!!!! ONCE AGAIN YOU ARE LYING !!! GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT AND BE MORE PROFISSIONAL !!!!!!! THE ID.4 DOES HAVE HEAT PUMP !!!!!!!!!!!!! JESUUUSSSSSSSSS YOU ARE A TOTAL INCOMPETENT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THE ID.4 DOES CAME WITH EVSE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THE ID.4 DOES FULL OTA !!!!!!!!!!
@@BUNKERPT A heat pump is offered in Europe but not in American models. Alex is discussing models sold here in North America. (Obviously!) I won't bother addressing the rest of your insane rant. Screaming in all upper case letters is rude and completely nullifies any credibility you might have.
@@BUNKERPT and here i am thinking hes biased towards the VEW :OP 100% sure the Mustang will travel further in real life than the VW. Plus what he failed to mention about the VW is the horrible amounts of plastic on the VW.
This was probably your best video. Not just the added benefit of it being a comparison but the more frequent edits and camera angels made it much more enjoyable. The effort was noticed and appreciated
It's really so difficult to test drive the Volkswagen without the sales people harassing me. Thanks to Alex and his reviews. He shows pretty much like the test drive I would do at the dealership. I think these pushy sales people are the main reason many opt to get Teslas instead.
Alex is the best reviewer for actual car shoppers. Great real-life comparisons on actual practical matters. Must watch for buyers. This a great video for folks considering either of these vehicles.
No mention of the fact the US version has lots of missing features from the European version, including less paint options, no 3D HUD, no heat pump, no Matrix LEDs, no 3D matrix rear lights. As an aside those pointless ugly orange reflector strips on the wheel arches North American markets insist on.
I especially like the fact that he is EV savvy. So many reviewers trip over aspects of electric cars that are just not a problem for me with my EVs. I need a car reviewer that knows EVs. Alex is good at this.
Guys, THIS REVIEW IS FULL OF MISINFORMATION !!!! The guy owns a Mach-e and IS TOTALLY BIASED !!!!!!!!!!!!!! The route planner in ID.4 can be filtered for loading activities with> 50kW ... you have not done the previous study and you are misleading people. THERE IS TRAVEL ASSIST ON THE ID.4 THAT IT'S ALMOST AUTONOMOUS DRIVING !!!! YOU ARE BIASED OR AT LEAST YOU ARE NOT DOING YOU JOB RIGHT! THE ID.4 DOES HAVE AUTO-HOLD !!!!! ONCE AGAIN YOU ARE LYING !!! GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT AND BE MORE PROFISSIONAL !!!!!!! THE ID.4 DOES HAVE HEAT PUMP !!!!!!!!!!!!! JESUUUSSSSSSSSS YOU ARE A TOTAL INCOMPETENT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THE ID.4 DOES CAME WITH EVSE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THE ID.4 DOES FULL OTA !!!!!!!!!!
It boggles the mind that we're still dealing with laggy entertainment systems on new cars after all these years. Targeting the electronics for the relatively static software that goes in cars isn't rocket science, and there's really no excuse for not building something that is absolutely responsive 99% of the time.
@@alwaysiyi272 Maybe so, but that is so counterproductive. A faster processor would cost how much per car? $100? I’d pay that to not have a laggy frustrating infotainment system. It is a penny wise and pound foolish decision.
@@M1911jln may have something to do with the chip shortages the entire planet is facing with increasing competition from cryptocurrency miners. Could be that they cannot physically get their hands on something to handle the performance, regardless of cost.
Yeah ground clearance and the Mach E having no official tow capacity vs the ID4 2200lbs/2700lbs is a consideration. Torklift is working on a Mach E hitch, but it's careful to say any towing issue won't be because of their hitch. torkliftcentral.com/2021-ford-mustang-mach-e-trailer-hitch
Guys, THIS REVIEW IS FULL OF MISINFORMATION !!!! The guy owns a Mach-e and IS TOTALLY BIASED !!!!!!!!!!!!!! The route planner in ID.4 can be filtered for loading activities with> 50kW ... you have not done the previous study and you are misleading people. THERE IS TRAVEL ASSIST ON THE ID.4 THAT IT'S ALMOST AUTONOMOUS DRIVING !!!! YOU ARE BIASED OR AT LEAST YOU ARE NOT DOING YOU JOB RIGHT! THE ID.4 DOES HAVE AUTO-HOLD !!!!! ONCE AGAIN YOU ARE LYING !!! GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT AND BE MORE PROFISSIONAL !!!!!!! THE ID.4 DOES HAVE HEAT PUMP !!!!!!!!!!!!! JESUUUSSSSSSSSS YOU ARE A TOTAL INCOMPETENT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THE ID.4 DOES CAME WITH EVSE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THE ID.4 DOES FULL OTA !!!!!!!!!!
@@BUNKERPT Paulo, Your constant harping on this issue reminds me of our former President repeatedly telling us there was no Covid. For my personal choice, I've already chosen the ID.4 because there are features that appeal to me more.
@@brownro214 They are getting close though. The range and the tech in these Tesla competitors are getting there. The main advantage to Tesla's is the Supercharger network. Either way, I think it is important to have competition and people need to realise that the Tesla isn't the only option.
I have the Mach E First Edition with a glass panoramic roof. While it is still spring weather in Los Angeles, we did have a 90-degree weather recently, thankfully the Infrared coating on the panoramic roof was great! I noticed no heat affecting me from the roof and was similar to my other car which is a sunroof with shade. We have not had 110 degree weather yet so I cannot comment how it handles rejecting that level of heat.
Right!? Not for me, but my wife has me close the sunroof in our current car every time she gets in. I love the Frunk in the Mach E, but the ID4 wins overall. Either way...the new electric cars make for very exciting times in automobiles!
The Mach E is inspired heavily by the Ford Evos concept model that was displayed around 2010. Ford used a lot of styling cues from that concept in recent years, but the Mach E is the closest thing you’ll see.
I think the difference is that the Ford Mach-E is made for the American market, it is not very common to have a tow hitch on normal cars in USA but the VW is made for the European market and it is very common with a tow hitch in Europe.
Things are really starting to heat up in the mainstream EV space. Once the Koreans and Japanese manufacturers join the fray, there will be plenty of options for people to choose, and hopefully dealers will get serious about understanding them and caring about them.
If you like the Lancia Delta, Hyundai Pony, and the original VW Golf/Rabbit; you will like the Ioniq 5. The designer who designed the Pony also designed the other 2 vehicles i mentioned. What i find fascinating about the Ioniq 5 is, it is more VW than the VW I.D. 4.
Excellent review. Tires aside, I love styling of MachE. Shape of front fender and hood are very appealing to me. Interior design is a winner. I am waiting for Tesla Y to give me heads up display or instrument cluster like MachE and better build quality like the Ford. Will buy in another year or so.
@@goochigoochs3836 Ford Escape sold 11,000 in Feb, 17,000 in Mar, and 15,000 in April. Which was like 10x more than the Mach e. The Toyota Rav4 sold 35,000, 47,000 and 40,000 those same months These are just the few I looked up. Even the Chevy Blazer that a lot of people don't like sold more than the Mach E. Tesla Model Y selling 33,000 just in March alone tripled the total sales of the Mach e
I test drove the ID.4 last week (in Europe) and the one I drove had brake hold. You get a heat pump in the ID.4 in the higher trim versions and in the lower trim versions it's optional (about $650 option).
VW was very nice, test drove one earlier last week. It was very. Comfortable and quiet, Great headroom at 6’3”. Havent tried the mach-e yet, recently bought the ModelY
In Europe the ID.4 comes standard with auto-hold. Got my car early January, happy with it, but consumption is a bit high (as a result of lower temperatures). I hope this improves in spring and summer. Auto-coasting is also part of my car provided you put it in either Eco or comfort mode. In sports mode it does regen braking when lifting off your foot from the pedal. The ID.4 als comes with a kind of auto pilot, even, which I think works very well. In addition it has a function that auto-brakes for curves and roundabouts, even in non-auto pilot mode. The infotainment is indeed very laggy and sub-standard (with Software 0783 aka ME2.0), version 0793 (or 2.1) is being rolled out in Europe, I hope that imporves the speed of the infotainments system, and that should allow for OTA updates starting this summer
@@tomj4371 Hi Tom, is it ok if I answer in metric? First of all I have a 11kW wallbox at home which makes that charging is effortless in most instances. My practical range is some 250-300km, that is mostly highway at speeds of 110-120km/h and by practical range I mean charge till 80pct and charge when at 100pct. When leaving home fully charged, at 100% then depending of ambient temperature I reach 350-400 km when getting nervous at around 10% State of Charge. In general sanitary pauses are needed more often then charging. But as said I mostly charge at home and can return with sufficient charge. I am happy with my EV.
I have test driven a VW ID4 and the Tesla Model Y. I haven't had a chance to test drive a Mach E yet. I will say this, the ID4's ride felt much more like a car/crossover. The Model Y's ride was extremely bumpy. The sales guy told me they have heard that complaint and there should be an update this year to address that. The interior of an ID4 is more like that of a regular car than Tesla's since it has an instrument cluster as well. I didn't like the interior if the Model Y. The minimalist approach was just weird feeling to me. If I get one of these, the ID4 is leading the race right now but I want to check out the Mach E. With that being said, it almost seems like Ford got a Model Y and reverse engineered it and said "let's see if we can make the same thing for less and put a Mustang badge on it" which kind of turns me off.
Th ID 4 is a great deal. It beats the Mach E when it comes to ride quality and cabin noise. Also if you are in the US you will get 3 year free charging on EA chargers.
I would take the ID4 simply because i want the power seats. Would never buy another vehicle without them. Next years models should have most of the bugs worked out. Comfort is everything when you get older. I can’t stand that fixed glass roof with no shade. A deal breaker for me.
This is the only review that’s made me actually like the ID4. I don’t really care about the frunk but am planning on getting my first EV next year. I always shied away from the ID4 but after this I may have to give it a look.
I was heading towards the Ioniq 5 and then I noticed that the ground clearance was pathetic, worse on a car with such a long wheelbase. In fact most ESUVs have poor ground clearance. I'm now seriously considering the AWD ID4, which in the UK is being marketed as the GT.
The Mach-E will sell more because there are more Ford dealers. My VW dealer is 60+ miles away, my Ford dealer is 13 miles away and right next to my Walmart.
Alex's comment about the Mach E's glass roof being a solar oven was spot on. As a previous owner of a Subaru Outback wagon with a sunroof and living in FL, we kept is closed all of the time for that very reason. This would be a deal breaker for me concerning the Mach E.
2021 production of Ford Mustang Mach E is only estimated at just under 50,000 vehicles. The ID 4 is predicting 100,000 but they are already having battery, software, and chip delays. So that prediction from VW might be way off. I would suggest they will follow Ford on this one and produce 50,000 this year. Tesla will most likely sell more than 500,000 Model Y alone, not counting Model 3, S, X, or Cybertruck.
Guys, THIS REVIEW IS FULL OF MISINFORMATION !!!! The guy owns a Mach-e and IS TOTALLY BIASED !!!!!!!!!!!!!! The route planner in ID.4 can be filtered for loading activities with> 50kW ... you have not done the previous study and you are misleading people. THERE IS TRAVEL ASSIST ON THE ID.4 THAT IT'S ALMOST AUTONOMOUS DRIVING !!!! YOU ARE BIASED OR AT LEAST YOU ARE NOT DOING YOU JOB RIGHT! THE ID.4 DOES HAVE AUTO-HOLD !!!!! ONCE AGAIN YOU ARE LYING !!! GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT AND BE MORE PROFISSIONAL !!!!!!! THE ID.4 DOES HAVE HEAT PUMP !!!!!!!!!!!!! THE ID.4 DOES CAME WITH EVSE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THE ID.4 DOES FULL OTA !!!!!!!!!!
These ID4, ID3, etc just feel like half assed attempts at making an EV. They seemed like they were rushed to the market with little development and that shows with the poor packaging. These early Evs from VW feel like they were made for damage control. That’s why they keep insisting no one compares them to the Tesla alternative because they know the Tesla’s are just better.
No Porsche Taycan Cross Turismo. Tesla is toast - Ioniq5 and Kia EV6 look great too and have useful features that Tesla don’t have like a solar roof and ability to transfer electricity out of the battery
So maybe the ID4 is more for Subaru and Rav 4 buyers because = more ground clearance, tow certified. People driving those cars don’t care about the looks and more about the outdoors and practicality. Mach E is more for car people who cares about looks and acceleration. So maybe the man gets the Mach E and the wife gets the ID4 😁 And the tech nerd gets the model Y
The appeal of electric cars has gone way down for me. Have you seen the electric rate increase in California? Almost 50% over the last 3~4 years, depending on your plan. Soon it will be more expensive to "fill-up" than gas. Electrify America already charges $0.43 per kilowatt, without membership. I can depend more on gas companies to keep prices competitive than California utility companies. Alex, where do you think the tipping point is where people will not choose electric over gas?
Yes, the much faster Mach-e with only skinny tires is a concern. As what good is speed without handling to go with it. The lack of a roof sunshade is a concern as well. But if exterior looks is a main concern, the Mach-e looks so much better than the VW.
"...The Mach-E "has this angry handlebar mustache going on..." Now I have to clean the coffee I spit up all over my screen! As usual, a tremendously informative review. I have to say if I were seriously in the market I'd have to pull out a spreadsheet and go slowly through the video to construct a point-by-point checklist to make a decision. As a GTI owner living in Washington State I tend to prioritize handling over straight line acceleration so my ultimate preference might go to the ID.4. But I'm very impressed by the job Ford has done in the initial incarnation of the Mach-E. Frankly, I didn't think they had it in 'em. Of course the elephant in the room is Tesla. And I have tremendous respect for Musk & Co's efforts to design and build not only several compelling automobiles but the even more challenging job of successfully building an automotive manufacturer from scratch. No one else has managed to do that in America since well before WWII. (e.g. noble failures like Kaiser and Tucker.) But while pioneers are deservedly lauded they're frequently long term failures. (e.g. Nikola Tesla.) The jury's still out on Tesla's challenges in terms of fit/finish and building a service and repair network to match mainstream manufacturers like Ford and VW. I wish Tesla the best of luck but many consumers are likely to opt for more familiar nameplates. And ultimately the future of EVs is in the hands of those automakers.
Mainstream manufacturers have the advantage of making EVs that are much less weird to own and operate and do not project the cultish image of an Elon stan. I did not even consider Tesla when EV shopping because of the brand image, the lack of Carplay, the build quality, the awful soft paint that makes PPF mandatory (assuming the car is completely painted at all), and the unpredictable performance in terms of range and power that only meets advertised specs under very specific circumstances. And that's not even talking about $10,000 in tax credits where I live.
Guys, THIS REVIEW IS FULL OF MISINFORMATION !!!! The guy owns a Mach-e and IS TOTALLY BIASED !!!!!!!!!!!!!! The route planner in ID.4 can be filtered for loading activities with> 50kW ... you have not done the previous study and you are misleading people. THERE IS TRAVEL ASSIST ON THE ID.4 THAT IT'S ALMOST AUTONOMOUS DRIVING !!!! YOU ARE BIASED OR AT LEAST YOU ARE NOT DOING YOU JOB RIGHT! THE ID.4 DOES HAVE AUTO-HOLD !!!!! ONCE AGAIN YOU ARE LYING !!! GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT AND BE MORE PROFISSIONAL !!!!!!! THE ID.4 DOES HAVE HEAT PUMP !!!!!!!!!!!!! JESUUUSSSSSSSSS YOU ARE A TOTAL INCOMPETENT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THE ID.4 DOES CAME WITH EVSE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THE ID.4 DOES FULL OTA !!!!!!!!!!
@@hiiiofficial8306 I guess practicality really goes towards vw but unfortunately I speak by experience I have not had good experience with this brand that is why my decision to go towards Ford
Guys, THIS REVIEW IS FULL OF MISINFORMATION !!!! The guy owns a Mach-e and IS TOTALLY BIASED !!!!!!!!!!!!!! The route planner in ID.4 can be filtered for loading activities with> 50kW ... you have not done the previous study and you are misleading people. THERE IS TRAVEL ASSIST ON THE ID.4 THAT IT'S ALMOST AUTONOMOUS DRIVING !!!! YOU ARE BIASED OR AT LEAST YOU ARE NOT DOING YOU JOB RIGHT! THE ID.4 DOES HAVE AUTO-HOLD !!!!! ONCE AGAIN YOU ARE LYING !!! GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT AND BE MORE PROFISSIONAL !!!!!!! THE ID.4 DOES HAVE HEAT PUMP !!!!!!!!!!!!! THE ID.4 DOES CAME WITH EVSE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THE ID.4 DOES FULL OTA !!!!!!!!!!
Guys, THIS REVIEW IS FULL OF MISINFORMATION !!!! The guy owns a Mach-e and IS TOTALLY BIASED !!!!!!!!!!!!!! The route planner in ID.4 can be filtered for loading activities with> 50kW ... you have not done the previous study and you are misleading people. THERE IS TRAVEL ASSIST ON THE ID.4 THAT IT'S ALMOST AUTONOMOUS DRIVING !!!! YOU ARE BIASED OR AT LEAST YOU ARE NOT DOING YOU JOB RIGHT! THE ID.4 DOES HAVE AUTO-HOLD !!!!! ONCE AGAIN YOU ARE LYING !!! GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT AND BE MORE PROFISSIONAL !!!!!!! THE ID.4 DOES HAVE HEAT PUMP !!!!!!!!!!!!! JESUUUSSSSSSSSS YOU ARE A TOTAL INCOMPETENT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THE ID.4 DOES CAME WITH EVSE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THE ID.4 DOES FULL OTA !!!!!!!!!!
Did he use user submitted captions before? I know google killed that and this weekend I’ve only been able to get auto-captions on most channels. It’s a mess :/
Guys, THIS REVIEW IS FULL OF MISINFORMATION !!!! The guy owns a Mach-e and IS TOTALLY BIASED !!!!!!!!!!!!!! The route planner in ID.4 can be filtered for loading activities with> 50kW ... you have not done the previous study and you are misleading people. THERE IS TRAVEL ASSIST ON THE ID.4 THAT IT'S ALMOST AUTONOMOUS DRIVING !!!! YOU ARE BIASED OR AT LEAST YOU ARE NOT DOING YOU JOB RIGHT! THE ID.4 DOES HAVE AUTO-HOLD !!!!! ONCE AGAIN YOU ARE LYING !!! GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT AND BE MORE PROFISSIONAL !!!!!!! THE ID.4 DOES HAVE HEAT PUMP !!!!!!!!!!!!! JESUUUSSSSSSSSS YOU ARE A TOTAL INCOMPETENT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THE ID.4 DOES CAME WITH EVSE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THE ID.4 DOES FULL OTA !!!!!!!!!!
Guys, THIS REVIEW IS FULL OF MISINFORMATION !!!! The guy owns a Mach-e and IS TOTALLY BIASED !!!!!!!!!!!!!! The route planner in ID.4 can be filtered for loading activities with> 50kW ... you have not done the previous study and you are misleading people. THERE IS TRAVEL ASSIST ON THE ID.4 THAT IT'S ALMOST AUTONOMOUS DRIVING !!!! YOU ARE BIASED OR AT LEAST YOU ARE NOT DOING YOU JOB RIGHT! THE ID.4 DOES HAVE AUTO-HOLD !!!!! ONCE AGAIN YOU ARE LYING !!! GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT AND BE MORE PROFISSIONAL !!!!!!! THE ID.4 DOES HAVE HEAT PUMP !!!!!!!!!!!!! JESUUUSSSSSSSSS YOU ARE A TOTAL INCOMPETENT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THE ID.4 DOES CAME WITH EVSE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THE ID.4 DOES FULL OTA !!!!!!!!!!
Guys, THIS REVIEW IS FULL OF MISINFORMATION !!!! The guy owns a Mach-e and IS TOTALLY BIASED !!!!!!!!!!!!!! The route planner in ID.4 can be filtered for loading activities with> 50kW ... you have not done the previous study and you are misleading people. THERE IS TRAVEL ASSIST ON THE ID.4 THAT IT'S ALMOST AUTONOMOUS DRIVING !!!! YOU ARE BIASED OR AT LEAST YOU ARE NOT DOING YOU JOB RIGHT! THE ID.4 DOES HAVE AUTO-HOLD !!!!! ONCE AGAIN YOU ARE LYING !!! GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT AND BE MORE PROFISSIONAL !!!!!!! THE ID.4 DOES HAVE HEAT PUMP !!!!!!!!!!!!! THE ID.4 DOES CAME WITH EVSE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THE ID.4 DOES FULL OTA !!!!!!!!!!
When you called the Mach E a fatter Mustang you really meant PHATTER right? PH FAT? ;). Alex, you are incredibly detailed. And objective. I watch every one of your videos because you don't gloss over the faults of every vehicle. Thank You! I'm leaning toward the AWD version of the ID4 as it will have a lot more kick ass to it. The alternative is the IONIQ 5 AWD. The Mustang would be in the running but in Canada they didn't mark a base model starting at 45k which means none of the trims get the 5k dollar gov't rebate. Ford Canada, anybody home???
Guys, THIS REVIEW IS FULL OF MISINFORMATION !!!! The guy owns a Mach-e and IS TOTALLY BIASED !!!!!!!!!!!!!! The route planner in ID.4 can be filtered for loading activities with> 50kW ... you have not done the previous study and you are misleading people. THERE IS TRAVEL ASSIST ON THE ID.4 THAT IT'S ALMOST AUTONOMOUS DRIVING !!!! YOU ARE BIASED OR AT LEAST YOU ARE NOT DOING YOU JOB RIGHT! THE ID.4 DOES HAVE AUTO-HOLD !!!!! ONCE AGAIN YOU ARE LYING !!! GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT AND BE MORE PROFISSIONAL !!!!!!! THE ID.4 DOES HAVE HEAT PUMP !!!!!!!!!!!!! THE ID.4 DOES CAME WITH EVSE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THE ID.4 DOES FULL OTA !!!!!!!!!!
I drove the Mach E in California Route 1 guise. I echo what you say about the tires. I took a corner quickly to see how flat is stays, but could not even focus on that, because the tires were squealing so badly. The acceleration, while quick, does not feel quick. I expected more of a throw back in the seat from what is supposed to be instant torque delivery. Maybe the AWD will be better. Premium has the best looking wheels. GT has the ugliest wheels. I think my choice would be the Select model with AWD. That way, I can avoid the needless glass roof and spend the savings on some aftermarket wheels and tires. It will be worth having to recharge sooner to have decent handling. I'm not a fan of perforated seats, either, so win-win. The seats were pretty comfy for me, but I have not tried the VW.
I think I would be happy with either one. (I currently drive a 15 year old Odyssey, so pretty much ANYTHING else would make me happy). I'm currently leaning toward the ID.4, though. I'd really like to be able to put a hitch receiver on my car and the Mach-e isn't rated for towing. I'm not looking to tow an RV, but I would like to be able to put a bike rack on it or get a 4x8 trailer for runs to the home center. To me, the biggest drawback to the ID.4 is that they didn't design it with a frunk. That just seems like they didn't fully embrace the current EV design possibilities. I also really like that VW included 3 years of free charging with ElectrifyAmerica. They just put a charging station in around the corner from my house.
I like the VW, it doesn’t scream I’m driving an EV. Given that electrics are mechanically much simpler what are the odds Volkswagen has managed to produce an EV that is halfway reliable and not drive you crazy on repairs like the typical Touareg?
I think the same, the accent colors on the vw are nice. The problem is there are no real EV features, no front trunk, not as amazing 0-60, not as much of a range, inferior software, have to buy L2 charger. Electrify America stations for free are nice.
I'd not bet my money on it, and in most ways I prefer the ID.4. VW just can't make a reliable car right now, at least not what Americans consider reliable
@@markmiller3279 I dunno, I think VW can make a reliable car, they own porsche who seems to make pretty reliable cars. Though like as another commenter said, it's not cheap.
Out of Spec Reviews has a great deep dive of ID.4 and Mach E. Kyle points out that the “Mustang’s” (not worthy of the name due to stodgy performance) touchy electronic braking is practically a deal breaker (pun intended). If VW adds one pedal driving and fixes the software bugs with the screen and the EA charging handshake, I think it’s the model to beat. th-cam.com/video/VQdsbuEo6w4/w-d-xo.html
In term of styling, I go with iD 4. But, the id 4 body can add12 inch more on the rear end, makes it an true wagon. inspired by EVs, Now I can see sporty and fuel econemy can go together.
Guys, THIS REVIEW IS FULL OF MISINFORMATION !!!! The guy owns a Mach-e and IS TOTALLY BIASED !!!!!!!!!!!!!! The route planner in ID.4 can be filtered for loading activities with> 50kW ... you have not done the previous study and you are misleading people. THERE IS TRAVEL ASSIST ON THE ID.4 THAT IT'S ALMOST AUTONOMOUS DRIVING !!!! YOU ARE BIASED OR AT LEAST YOU ARE NOT DOING YOU JOB RIGHT! THE ID.4 DOES HAVE AUTO-HOLD !!!!! ONCE AGAIN YOU ARE LYING !!! GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT AND BE MORE PROFISSIONAL !!!!!!! THE ID.4 DOES HAVE HEAT PUMP !!!!!!!!!!!!! JESUUUSSSSSSSSS YOU ARE A TOTAL INCOMPETENT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THE ID.4 DOES CAME WITH EVSE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THE ID.4 DOES FULL OTA !!!!!!!!!!
Great detailed review ..... you kept it moving. No Fronk in the WD ? Are you kidding me? VW needs to get that off the road ASAP. It is making earth look bad. VW is not as sexy inside and out.
picking up my id4 next week...main issue was towing...I have three trailers, a bike rack for two heavy 60lbs e-bikes and a cargo carrier for storing external coolers and BBQ for trips to the beach...mustang doesn't seem to be able to tow which is a non-starter for those of us that use our vehicle to tow jet-ski, utility trailers etc. The big question is: Why cannot the Mustang Mach e tow anything at all? Is it possibly a design flaw in how they designed the electric framework? VW's MEB platform and its surrounding framework can tow at least 3,000 lbs maybe more with a bigger vehicle. So that means when the VW Dune Buggy or VW e-Microbus get released they should be able to tow as well...but mustang? what framework did Ford design that cannot tow even a tiny amount?
Great review. I drive hwy 17 in the Santa Cruz mountains and my premium Mach-e handles great! I love the way it drives. It handles almost as well as my 2012 Mazda Miata. I’m surprised you didn’t mention the different drive settings on the Mach-e . I stick with “engage”
It's hard to get either one at the moment. I was told by the Ford dealer that the one they had they were not able to sell for 40 days. So, even though I drove it and had a favorable impression, I did not have the option to buy it. I asked when they'd be getting some stock in and they replied that they way of the world with the Mach-e was that it would be an order only car at the moment. One reason given for this was the microchip shortage. At the moment, there is going to be a wait unless you can snag one on the lot at a fair price vs. having to have a bidding war with other buyers to get the one on the lot. I don't know what the lead time is for the Mach-e if you order one? No VW around here even has an ID.4. So, I can't even try out to compare and see visually.
Where do you live right now? I live in the Tampa/Saint Pete/Clearwater area, and my two closest VW dealers each have an I.D 4, though only Lokey VW in Clearwater has salesstaff just dying to take you for a test drive in it. AutoNation Ford in Saint Pete has a “California Route 1“ model that they are happy to have you test drive, and Walker Ford is allowing you to sign up to take a Mach-e home for a couple days to see how you like living with it!
@@beach1963 I'm in the Omaha, NE area. There are Mach-e's around, but I've not seen any ID.4's yet. I've not checked at the other dealers to see if theirs are for sale or if they got them as service loaners and can't sell them until they get their service loaner miles. It's not hard to test drive one, it's just hard to find one that they can sell you. I don't particularly want a service loaner as I think those will be "tested" out pretty thoroughly. I don't know how long the wait would be if I ordered one would be.
In Canada, ID.4 base pricing is much more aggressive at 45k$Cdn towards the Mach-E at 52. Additionally even the Id.4 upped trim at 53, it still qualifies for both federal 5k$ and Quebec's 8k$ EV rebates for a total 12k$. Mach-E does not qualify for the fed and there is no way to get the big battery AND the Qc rebate. Pricing wise, ID.4 becomes a real deal here! Mine on order, amongst the first Cdn deliveries due later this summer. BTW for now available only in British Columbia and Québec. Rest of Canada will have to wait longer.
I always appreciate your in-depth reviews Alex and had vested-interest been awaiting this one. I do agree with your assessment that if you want to stand out in the crowd get the Mustang Mach-E. I took delivery of an ID.4 First Edition just yesterday (17 March 21) and I'm really enjoying it. But no one is turning their heads. At a casual glance they likely think it's just another VW Tiguan and don't bother to look more closely. I actually want some anonymity this time around so I'm good with it, but again I do concede your point.
Great video comparison. I still don't understand why Ford used the Mustang moniker instead of Edge, or Explorer, or just Mach -E. I do know why they didn't name it the Escape -E. And what's up with "Mach"? There is nothing on the car that is the speed of sound, except the electrons that run the car, and they go at the speed of light.
The ID.4 has been tested, validated and survived the European market. They have been successful with the ID.3 version too. I suspect the issues with electrify America are more to do with them being built and shipped from Europe which operate a different electrical grid. I wouldn't be writing off VW anytime soon!
Guys, THIS REVIEW IS FULL OF MISINFORMATION !!!! The guy owns a Mach-e and IS TOTALLY BIASED !!!!!!!!!!!!!! The route planner in ID.4 can be filtered for loading activities with> 50kW ... you have not done the previous study and you are misleading people. THERE IS TRAVEL ASSIST ON THE ID.4 THAT IT'S ALMOST AUTONOMOUS DRIVING !!!! YOU ARE BIASED OR AT LEAST YOU ARE NOT DOING YOU JOB RIGHT! THE ID.4 DOES HAVE AUTO-HOLD !!!!! ONCE AGAIN YOU ARE LYING !!! GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT AND BE MORE PROFISSIONAL !!!!!!! THE ID.4 DOES HAVE HEAT PUMP !!!!!!!!!!!!! THE ID.4 DOES CAME WITH EVSE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THE ID.4 DOES FULL OTA !!!!!!!!!!
My son just purchased a premium Awd Mach E. After taking my opportunity to test drive his Mach E. From your review and seeing the VW. I would pick the Ford hands down in overall styling and performance. Looking at the VW. It looks like a VW used an SUV and made an EV. The interior was bland in the VW. Batteries under the hood seems strange. When I drove my son's Mustang Mach E premium Awd. It was fantastic. I was surprised at it's performance and charging time was more than exceptable. It's ride and handling was great. Hands free driving is currently being offered thru Ford with a download. You mentioned the Frunk. The Frunks deviders are removable and had a removable drain plug if you want to ice down some cold ones at a tailgate party. The Ford is sexy and imo, I feel handles amazing. If you looked at your Mach E. I don't think you'll find the ford name. I believe Ford will eventually make the Mustang it's own brand within the Ford motor company. Many people like myself have owned several Mustangs and love them. The Mustang Mach E opens a new Mustang consumer market that wants a Mustang, but need four doors and a usable rear seats. I'm one of those customers.
Skoda Enyaq will be same as Volkswagen in driving (same platform), but more space and way better interior and exterior design. Picking the upcoming 4-wheel from that will also be faster than the rearwheel version. Not on par with the Mach E in speed, but 1.5 seconds faster than this ID4 in 0-60, while keeping the benefits of better suspension.
"Half baked".. lol. That's how people at Ford decided to call this a Mustang. Honestly though, having seen both, I'm already considering buying a VW ID.4 and Im a Ford guy
That is the dealbreaker for me. It has a lot of Prius vibes to it (gimmicky for the sake of gimmicks) and the center console is imminently impractical. I'm not sure why they didn't go all the way with the traditional styling if that is how they were going to market it.
This was a great review and super useful. Very densely packed with information. So glad I watched. Have test driven both plus the model Y and leaning towards the Mustang, but still stuck on Tesla’s network and thinking the EV rebate will be extended.
Guys, THIS REVIEW IS FULL OF MISINFORMATION !!!! The guy owns a Mach-e and IS TOTALLY BIASED !!!!!!!!!!!!!! The route planner in ID.4 can be filtered for loading activities with> 50kW ... you have not done the previous study and you are misleading people. THERE IS TRAVEL ASSIST ON THE ID.4 THAT IT'S ALMOST AUTONOMOUS DRIVING !!!! YOU ARE BIASED OR AT LEAST YOU ARE NOT DOING YOU JOB RIGHT! THE ID.4 DOES HAVE AUTO-HOLD !!!!! ONCE AGAIN YOU ARE LYING !!! GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT AND BE MORE PROFISSIONAL !!!!!!! THE ID.4 DOES HAVE HEAT PUMP !!!!!!!!!!!!! THE ID.4 DOES CAME WITH EVSE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THE ID.4 DOES FULL OTA !!!!!!!!!!
The problem with VW in my area they don't have any dealers you have to drive 2 or 3 hours for a dealer. Don't care much for VW either mustang looks better and has more usable features.
Guys, THIS REVIEW IS FULL OF MISINFORMATION !!!! The guy owns a Mach-e and IS TOTALLY BIASED !!!!!!!!!!!!!! The route planner in ID.4 can be filtered for loading activities with> 50kW ... you have not done the previous study and you are misleading people. THERE IS TRAVEL ASSIST ON THE ID.4 THAT IT'S ALMOST AUTONOMOUS DRIVING !!!! YOU ARE BIASED OR AT LEAST YOU ARE NOT DOING YOU JOB RIGHT! THE ID.4 DOES HAVE AUTO-HOLD !!!!! ONCE AGAIN YOU ARE LYING !!! GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT AND BE MORE PROFISSIONAL !!!!!!! THE ID.4 DOES HAVE HEAT PUMP !!!!!!!!!!!!! THE ID.4 DOES CAME WITH EVSE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THE ID.4 DOES FULL OTA !!!!!!!!!!
Kudos to both manufacturers for bringing competitive EVs to the marketplace. Mach E is my choice, but I could see someone taking the VW. Enjoying the hell out my 2017 Ford Focus Electric. Next one one will probably be a Mach E GT.
Guys, THIS REVIEW IS FULL OF MISINFORMATION !!!! The guy owns a Mach-e and IS TOTALLY BIASED !!!!!!!!!!!!!! The route planner in ID.4 can be filtered for loading activities with> 50kW ... you have not done the previous study and you are misleading people. THERE IS TRAVEL ASSIST ON THE ID.4 THAT IT'S ALMOST AUTONOMOUS DRIVING !!!! YOU ARE BIASED OR AT LEAST YOU ARE NOT DOING YOU JOB RIGHT! THE ID.4 DOES HAVE AUTO-HOLD !!!!! ONCE AGAIN YOU ARE LYING !!! GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT AND BE MORE PROFISSIONAL !!!!!!! THE ID.4 DOES HAVE HEAT PUMP !!!!!!!!!!!!! JESUUUSSSSSSSSS YOU ARE A TOTAL INCOMPETENT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THE ID.4 DOES CAME WITH EVSE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THE ID.4 DOES FULL OTA !!!!!!!!!!
Love your work! I visited a Ford dealer who had a demo of MachE premium. They only allow you to ride as passenger. The sales rep demonstrated the route planner with a trip to Disney, normally a 12 hit drive. The Mache planner gave a 43 hour drive with charging. Not sure if the east I95 corridor doesn’t have fast charge, but that presentation really dampened my enthusiasm. .
I tested a Mach-e Premium last weekend from my local Ford dealer. I called the salesman ahead to schedule it. He was working from home. My son and I arrived, I talked to the receptionist, she handed me the keys and pointed to the car. Did not even check my DL,credit, or send a salesman with me. They did not limit my time. We took it for an hour. It probably helped that I bought my Ford Edge from them 5 years ago (my first Ford). We have an excellent local Ford dealer (Anderson Ford). The nearest Tesla dealer is an hour away. My son owns a brand new Tesla Y performance edition which we arrived in and parked in front of the showroom. so i test drove both cars the same day. I am conflicted. I have a reservation in for a GT right now. I like many things better on the Tesla. Build quality on my son's Tesla is excellent but he waited for that to improve and took delivery on Dec 31st 2020. I'll probably go with the Mach-e GT at this point. But when Tesla gets the tax credit back, I might reconsider. Sorry for not being specific with details but I would have to write a full review to cover all the different things i like best on each car and don't have time while reading this at work.
10:42 It's pretty obvious that your leg lays flatter in the ID4 and more crouched in the Mach E where the front half of your thigh wasn't supported at all.
I don't think either of these are going to win a beauty prize. Seems like the boxy Bronco styling could have been a better retro choice for Ford. To me Ioniq 5 seems more interesting inside and outside.
Disagree, but of course looks are personal. Look at the Mustang in person, and it’s quite striking. I REALLY liked it in white when I saw it last year. Was not expecting to.
Alex read my mind. I wanted to see this comparison exactly.
U read each other's minds...
Guys, THIS REVIEW IS FULL OF MISINFORMATION !!!! The guy owns a Mach-e and IS TOTALLY BIASED !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The route planner in ID.4 can be filtered for loading activities with> 50kW ... you have not done the previous study and you are misleading people.
THERE IS TRAVEL ASSIST ON THE ID.4 THAT IT'S ALMOST AUTONOMOUS DRIVING !!!! YOU ARE BIASED OR AT LEAST YOU ARE NOT DOING YOU JOB RIGHT!
THE ID.4 DOES HAVE AUTO-HOLD !!!!! ONCE AGAIN YOU ARE LYING !!! GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT AND BE MORE PROFISSIONAL !!!!!!!
THE ID.4 DOES HAVE HEAT PUMP !!!!!!!!!!!!! JESUUUSSSSSSSSS YOU ARE A TOTAL INCOMPETENT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THE ID.4 DOES CAME WITH EVSE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THE ID.4 DOES FULL OTA !!!!!!!!!!
@@BUNKERPT A heat pump is offered in Europe but not in American models. Alex is discussing models sold here in North America. (Obviously!) I won't bother addressing the rest of your insane rant. Screaming in all upper case letters is rude and completely nullifies any credibility you might have.
@@BUNKERPT and here i am thinking hes biased towards the VEW :OP 100% sure the Mustang will travel further in real life than the VW. Plus what he failed to mention about the VW is the horrible amounts of plastic on the VW.
This was probably your best video. Not just the added benefit of it being a comparison but the more frequent edits and camera angels made it much more enjoyable. The effort was noticed and appreciated
It's really so difficult to test drive the Volkswagen without the sales people harassing me. Thanks to Alex and his reviews. He shows pretty much like the test drive I would do at the dealership.
I think these pushy sales people are the main reason many opt to get Teslas instead.
Alex is the best reviewer for actual car shoppers. Great real-life comparisons on actual practical matters. Must watch for buyers. This a great video for folks considering either of these vehicles.
Agreed! He really knows his stuff, and he does a great job sharing it with the world!
No mention of the fact the US version has lots of missing features from the European version, including less paint options, no 3D HUD, no heat pump, no Matrix LEDs, no 3D matrix rear lights.
As an aside those pointless ugly orange reflector strips on the wheel arches North American markets insist on.
He’s also easily the most thorough. I wouldn’t buy a car without reviewing his video first.
I especially like the fact that he is EV savvy. So many reviewers trip over aspects of electric cars that are just not a problem for me with my EVs. I need a car reviewer that knows EVs. Alex is good at this.
Guys, THIS REVIEW IS FULL OF MISINFORMATION !!!! The guy owns a Mach-e and IS TOTALLY BIASED !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The route planner in ID.4 can be filtered for loading activities with> 50kW ... you have not done the previous study and you are misleading people.
THERE IS TRAVEL ASSIST ON THE ID.4 THAT IT'S ALMOST AUTONOMOUS DRIVING !!!! YOU ARE BIASED OR AT LEAST YOU ARE NOT DOING YOU JOB RIGHT!
THE ID.4 DOES HAVE AUTO-HOLD !!!!! ONCE AGAIN YOU ARE LYING !!! GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT AND BE MORE PROFISSIONAL !!!!!!!
THE ID.4 DOES HAVE HEAT PUMP !!!!!!!!!!!!! JESUUUSSSSSSSSS YOU ARE A TOTAL INCOMPETENT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THE ID.4 DOES CAME WITH EVSE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THE ID.4 DOES FULL OTA !!!!!!!!!!
They should've called the mustang a Pon-Eeee🤣
Or E-Quine
I call it the Paper Mache
The extra "eee's" are options, the base is just called the Pon-e.
@@casualsuede 😆😆😆 dealers would do it too
My vote would be The Escape E
It boggles the mind that we're still dealing with laggy entertainment systems on new cars after all these years. Targeting the electronics for the relatively static software that goes in cars isn't rocket science, and there's really no excuse for not building something that is absolutely responsive 99% of the time.
It's because of the chips they use, most of these manufacturers use really cheap chips thay don't have a lot of power
@@alwaysiyi272 Maybe so, but that is so counterproductive. A faster processor would cost how much per car? $100? I’d pay that to not have a laggy frustrating infotainment system. It is a penny wise and pound foolish decision.
@@M1911jln may have something to do with the chip shortages the entire planet is facing with increasing competition from cryptocurrency miners. Could be that they cannot physically get their hands on something to handle the performance, regardless of cost.
@@M1911jln No, probably about 20-30 dollars. Carmakers are ultimate cheapskates.
@@ALMX5DP I agree
I lust after the Mach-E GT, but I'm unbearably practical - the boxy shape, tow rating and greater ground clearance of the ID 4 warms my heart.
Honest and reasonable. Tell your friends how lucky they are.
Yeah ground clearance and the Mach E having no official tow capacity vs the ID4 2200lbs/2700lbs is a consideration. Torklift is working on a Mach E hitch, but it's careful to say any towing issue won't be because of their hitch. torkliftcentral.com/2021-ford-mustang-mach-e-trailer-hitch
Guys, THIS REVIEW IS FULL OF MISINFORMATION !!!! The guy owns a Mach-e and IS TOTALLY BIASED !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The route planner in ID.4 can be filtered for loading activities with> 50kW ... you have not done the previous study and you are misleading people.
THERE IS TRAVEL ASSIST ON THE ID.4 THAT IT'S ALMOST AUTONOMOUS DRIVING !!!! YOU ARE BIASED OR AT LEAST YOU ARE NOT DOING YOU JOB RIGHT!
THE ID.4 DOES HAVE AUTO-HOLD !!!!! ONCE AGAIN YOU ARE LYING !!! GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT AND BE MORE PROFISSIONAL !!!!!!!
THE ID.4 DOES HAVE HEAT PUMP !!!!!!!!!!!!! JESUUUSSSSSSSSS YOU ARE A TOTAL INCOMPETENT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THE ID.4 DOES CAME WITH EVSE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THE ID.4 DOES FULL OTA !!!!!!!!!!
@@BUNKERPT Paulo, Your constant harping on this issue reminds me of our former President repeatedly telling us there was no Covid. For my personal choice, I've already chosen the ID.4 because there are features that appeal to me more.
@@BUNKERPT The U.S. ID.4 does not have a heat pump. I have no idea about your other ramblings.
Great review without the cliche “Tesla killer” clickbait. Wonderful job Alex.
Neither of these is a Tesla killer at this point.
@@brownro214 that's not the point
@@brownro214 They are getting close though. The range and the tech in these Tesla competitors are getting there. The main advantage to Tesla's is the Supercharger network. Either way, I think it is important to have competition and people need to realise that the Tesla isn't the only option.
Not being able to close the panoramic roof would be a big problem for me.
Deal-breaker in Phoenix. No way to get a simple, solid roof?
@@barry28907 My friend has the base model ford and no sun roof at all. The seat are the most comfortable car seat my butt has ever sat on.
I agree. I have no desire for a glass roof. We have a Toyota 4Runner with a sunroof. It hasn't been open for a combined total of one hour in 12 years.
I have the Mach E First Edition with a glass panoramic roof. While it is still spring weather in Los Angeles, we did have a 90-degree weather recently, thankfully the Infrared coating on the panoramic roof was great! I noticed no heat affecting me from the roof and was similar to my other car which is a sunroof with shade. We have not had 110 degree weather yet so I cannot comment how it handles rejecting that level of heat.
Right!? Not for me, but my wife has me close the sunroof in our current car every time she gets in. I love the Frunk in the Mach E, but the ID4 wins overall. Either way...the new electric cars make for very exciting times in automobiles!
The Mach E is inspired heavily by the Ford Evos concept model that was displayed around 2010. Ford used a lot of styling cues from that concept in recent years, but the Mach E is the closest thing you’ll see.
Love it!
Love your reviews Alex. If I were to choose between these, I would go with VW after a year so they can work out any bugs and provide updates.
Tow rating is "0" because they want you to get the F150
I think the difference is that the Ford Mach-E is made for the American market, it is not very common to have a tow hitch on normal cars in USA but the VW is made for the European market and it is very common with a tow hitch in Europe.
I read someplace that the European version has tow capability. I'm not sure why the US version doesn't, other than they wanted to buy an F-150, LOL
Ford dropped its sedan line up to give us a cross over with sedan ground clearance 😕
Most crossovers are just tall hatchbacks.
Total Ford F150’s sold in 2021: 726,004
Total Ford Mustangs sold in 2021: 79,554
Ford didn’t kill the sedan. People did. No one wants sedans.
"Angry handlebar mustache" OMG I'm never going to be able to unsee that now! I needed that laugh thank you!
I am going to call that the Trejo grill!
Looking forward to the Ioniq 5
Mach E for me. Better looking and the infotainment on the id4 is a disaster.
A no shit Sherlock moment
Yes, I have read and view numerous reviews stating precisely that
Software updates will improve that though
Things are really starting to heat up in the mainstream EV space. Once the Koreans and Japanese manufacturers join the fray, there will be plenty of options for people to choose, and hopefully dealers will get serious about understanding them and caring about them.
The new Ioniq 5 is doing some strange things to me....
If you like the Lancia Delta, Hyundai Pony, and the original VW Golf/Rabbit; you will like the Ioniq 5. The designer who designed the Pony also designed the other 2 vehicles i mentioned. What i find fascinating about the Ioniq 5 is, it is more VW than the VW I.D. 4.
That why I am waiting 😁😁😁😂
Are any of the Japanese manufacturers ever going to join the fray?
@@shawnhill4779 two cars from Toyota is incoming, dunno if they included one as a Lexus (there's new plugins on the way)
Love how much USEFUL information Alex fits into his vids. Clear, complete, concise. Great job!
Excellent review. Tires aside, I love styling of MachE. Shape of front fender and hood are very appealing to me. Interior design is a winner. I am waiting for Tesla Y to give me heads up display or instrument cluster like MachE and better build quality like the Ford. Will buy in another year or so.
If Ford didn't put the name Mustang in that Mach-E, people wouldn't bother stopping to take pictures. Well done Ford marketing.
Must be why the sales for the Mach e are exponentially declining.. great Ford strategy and marketing
@@RW-zh7kl Well, name me one small SUV that did better from Feb-to-April?
@@goochigoochs3836 Ford Escape sold 11,000 in Feb, 17,000 in Mar, and 15,000 in April. Which was like 10x more than the Mach e.
The Toyota Rav4 sold 35,000, 47,000 and 40,000 those same months
These are just the few I looked up. Even the Chevy Blazer that a lot of people don't like sold more than the Mach E.
Tesla Model Y selling 33,000 just in March alone tripled the total sales of the Mach e
@@RW-zh7kl Dude! Thanks for the number - they all did NOT do better! Comparing Ford Escape to a new model hahaha!
@@goochigoochs3836 you just wanted one, I gave you 3, that was easy
I test drove the ID.4 last week (in Europe) and the one I drove had brake hold. You get a heat pump in the ID.4 in the higher trim versions and in the lower trim versions it's optional (about $650 option).
Heat Pump is now standard in Europe, but not even an option in the US, at least for now.
VW was very nice, test drove one earlier last week. It was very. Comfortable and quiet, Great headroom at 6’3”. Havent tried the mach-e yet, recently bought the ModelY
How is the VW compared to Model Y?
In BC Canada here. Our version comes with a heat pump! Also a heated windshield. ID 4 all the way!
Drive the Mach-e also. Its outstanding! I have one on order now.
I love your shows Alex. To the point and less subjective. Keep up the great work. My vote will be the VW ID4
Great comparison video. Good to see them side by side at different angles. Thank you AA!
In Europe the ID.4 comes standard with auto-hold. Got my car early January, happy with it, but consumption is a bit high (as a result of lower temperatures). I hope this improves in spring and summer. Auto-coasting is also part of my car provided you put it in either Eco or comfort mode. In sports mode it does regen braking when lifting off your foot from the pedal. The ID.4 als comes with a kind of auto pilot, even, which I think works very well. In addition it has a function that auto-brakes for curves and roundabouts, even in non-auto pilot mode. The infotainment is indeed very laggy and sub-standard (with Software 0783 aka ME2.0), version 0793 (or 2.1) is being rolled out in Europe, I hope that imporves the speed of the infotainments system, and that should allow for OTA updates starting this summer
May I ask you how much range you get from a full charge?
@@tomj4371 Hi Tom, is it ok if I answer in metric? First of all I have a 11kW wallbox at home which makes that charging is effortless in most instances. My practical range is some 250-300km, that is mostly highway at speeds of 110-120km/h and by practical range I mean charge till 80pct and charge when at 100pct. When leaving home fully charged, at 100% then depending of ambient temperature I reach 350-400 km when getting nervous at around 10% State of Charge. In general sanitary pauses are needed more often then charging. But as said I mostly charge at home and can return with sufficient charge. I am happy with my EV.
Hi Bert,
Of course, metric is easier.
That is most helpful, thank you very much! Very good to know.
Tom
@@bertsteenbergen6729 thanks for your infomation, may i know the battery size?
@@jianghe2212 My battery size is 77kWh nett.
Lack if ID 4 frunk is because VW moved all the HVAC components out of the cabin area . Giving more interior space
I have test driven a VW ID4 and the Tesla Model Y. I haven't had a chance to test drive a Mach E yet. I will say this, the ID4's ride felt much more like a car/crossover. The Model Y's ride was extremely bumpy. The sales guy told me they have heard that complaint and there should be an update this year to address that. The interior of an ID4 is more like that of a regular car than Tesla's since it has an instrument cluster as well. I didn't like the interior if the Model Y. The minimalist approach was just weird feeling to me.
If I get one of these, the ID4 is leading the race right now but I want to check out the Mach E. With that being said, it almost seems like Ford got a Model Y and reverse engineered it and said "let's see if we can make the same thing for less and put a Mustang badge on it" which kind of turns me off.
The Mach E is SO sexy. The only thing that pushes me towards the ID.4 is the 3 years of free charging with EA. That’s huuuuuge for me.
I will go with the ID4
I'm a VW fan , bought many of them but to be honest the Mustang Mach-e wins today by a hairline ! But both are great vehicles!
I prefer the vw id4
Th ID 4 is a great deal. It beats the Mach E when it comes to ride quality and cabin noise. Also if you are in the US you will get 3 year free charging on EA chargers.
looking at the frunk, you know VW hasn't figured out EV yet.
@@bigsean628 why? You mean if there is no Frunk its not an EV? even if there is plenty of room in he back?
Does not make sense to me sorry
@@bigsean628 Not really. Having all the mechanical stuffs in front allows more space in the front cabin. ID 4 outmatches MY and Mach E in that area.
Have a eGolf and I prefer more space in back then a front trunk! I prefer have access to front mecanic
Crossover, SUV - none of these terms are correctly relevant. They should all just be called not-a-sedan
Tall wagon.
Minivan with swinging doors
I would take the ID4 simply because i want the power seats. Would never buy another vehicle without them. Next years models should have most of the bugs worked out. Comfort is everything when you get older. I can’t stand that fixed glass roof with no shade. A deal breaker for me.
I test drove both last week. VW drives a LOT better! Ford felt every bump in the road and felt cheap.
This is the only review that’s made me actually like the ID4. I don’t really care about the frunk but am planning on getting my first EV next year. I always shied away from the ID4 but after this I may have to give it a look.
It looks better in person.
I was heading towards the Ioniq 5 and then I noticed that the ground clearance was pathetic, worse on a car with such a long wheelbase. In fact most ESUVs have poor ground clearance. I'm now seriously considering the AWD ID4, which in the UK is being marketed as the GT.
The Mach-E will sell more because there are more Ford dealers. My VW dealer is 60+ miles away, my Ford dealer is 13 miles away and right next to my Walmart.
8:30. in fact...it didn't close 🤣
Sure looked like it closed
It has a double latch so like a Tesla you have to give a second press to fully close it.
Amazing how VW have managed to fill and entire front section even though there's no engine of gearbox!
I would cover the roof in the darkest tint available or wrap in an opaque body vinyl.
Alex's comment about the Mach E's glass roof being a solar oven was spot on. As a previous owner of a Subaru Outback wagon with a sunroof and living in FL, we kept is closed all of the time for that very reason. This would be a deal breaker for me concerning the Mach E.
2021 production of Ford Mustang Mach E is only estimated at just under 50,000 vehicles. The ID 4 is predicting 100,000 but they are already having battery, software, and chip delays. So that prediction from VW might be way off. I would suggest they will follow Ford on this one and produce 50,000 this year. Tesla will most likely sell more than 500,000 Model Y alone, not counting Model 3, S, X, or Cybertruck.
Guys, THIS REVIEW IS FULL OF MISINFORMATION !!!! The guy owns a Mach-e and IS TOTALLY BIASED !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The route planner in ID.4 can be filtered for loading activities with> 50kW ... you have not done the previous study and you are misleading people.
THERE IS TRAVEL ASSIST ON THE ID.4 THAT IT'S ALMOST AUTONOMOUS DRIVING !!!! YOU ARE BIASED OR AT LEAST YOU ARE NOT DOING YOU JOB RIGHT!
THE ID.4 DOES HAVE AUTO-HOLD !!!!! ONCE AGAIN YOU ARE LYING !!! GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT AND BE MORE PROFISSIONAL !!!!!!!
THE ID.4 DOES HAVE HEAT PUMP !!!!!!!!!!!!!
THE ID.4 DOES CAME WITH EVSE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THE ID.4 DOES FULL OTA !!!!!!!!!!
These ID4, ID3, etc just feel like half assed attempts at making an EV. They seemed like they were rushed to the market with little development and that shows with the poor packaging. These early Evs from VW feel like they were made for damage control. That’s why they keep insisting no one compares them to the Tesla alternative because they know the Tesla’s are just better.
Tesla is way more expensive. the ID range fits the market pretty well. if you want something better, VW has other brands with EV.
@@nox5555 I'm not just talking about range...
FYI, according to the VW website, the Canadian ID4 will have a heat pump
Tesla Model Y after the tax credit is reinstated, most likely soon...
No Porsche Taycan Cross Turismo. Tesla is toast - Ioniq5 and Kia EV6 look great too and have useful features that Tesla don’t have like a solar roof and ability to transfer electricity out of the battery
ID 4 has no frunk, VW was lazy in the engineering even Munro Live pointed it out. Mach E wins
So maybe the ID4 is more for Subaru and Rav 4 buyers because = more ground clearance, tow certified.
People driving those cars don’t care about the looks and more about the outdoors and practicality.
Mach E is more for car people who cares about looks and acceleration.
So maybe the man gets the Mach E and the wife gets the ID4 😁
And the tech nerd gets the model Y
The appeal of electric cars has gone way down for me. Have you seen the electric rate increase in California? Almost 50% over the last 3~4 years, depending on your plan. Soon it will be more expensive to "fill-up" than gas. Electrify America already charges $0.43 per kilowatt, without membership. I can depend more on gas companies to keep prices competitive than California utility companies. Alex, where do you think the tipping point is where people will not choose electric over gas?
3 years gratis with VW.
I hope that future Mach-e comes with cloth seats along w/ optional roof sun shade. Tire and rim options would be welcome as well.
Yes, the much faster Mach-e with only skinny tires is a concern. As what good is speed without handling to go with it. The lack of a roof sunshade is a concern as well. But if exterior looks is a main concern, the Mach-e looks so much better than the VW.
"...The Mach-E "has this angry handlebar mustache going on..." Now I have to clean the coffee I spit up all over my screen!
As usual, a tremendously informative review. I have to say if I were seriously in the market I'd have to pull out a spreadsheet and go slowly through the video to construct a point-by-point checklist to make a decision. As a GTI owner living in Washington State I tend to prioritize handling over straight line acceleration so my ultimate preference might go to the ID.4. But I'm very impressed by the job Ford has done in the initial incarnation of the Mach-E. Frankly, I didn't think they had it in 'em.
Of course the elephant in the room is Tesla. And I have tremendous respect for Musk & Co's efforts to design and build not only several compelling automobiles but the even more challenging job of successfully building an automotive manufacturer from scratch. No one else has managed to do that in America since well before WWII. (e.g. noble failures like Kaiser and Tucker.) But while pioneers are deservedly lauded they're frequently long term failures. (e.g. Nikola Tesla.) The jury's still out on Tesla's challenges in terms of fit/finish and building a service and repair network to match mainstream manufacturers like Ford and VW. I wish Tesla the best of luck but many consumers are likely to opt for more familiar nameplates. And ultimately the future of EVs is in the hands of those automakers.
Mainstream manufacturers have the advantage of making EVs that are much less weird to own and operate and do not project the cultish image of an Elon stan. I did not even consider Tesla when EV shopping because of the brand image, the lack of Carplay, the build quality, the awful soft paint that makes PPF mandatory (assuming the car is completely painted at all), and the unpredictable performance in terms of range and power that only meets advertised specs under very specific circumstances. And that's not even talking about $10,000 in tax credits where I live.
Are you thinking of trading in your H/K for one?
Guys, THIS REVIEW IS FULL OF MISINFORMATION !!!! The guy owns a Mach-e and IS TOTALLY BIASED !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The route planner in ID.4 can be filtered for loading activities with> 50kW ... you have not done the previous study and you are misleading people.
THERE IS TRAVEL ASSIST ON THE ID.4 THAT IT'S ALMOST AUTONOMOUS DRIVING !!!! YOU ARE BIASED OR AT LEAST YOU ARE NOT DOING YOU JOB RIGHT!
THE ID.4 DOES HAVE AUTO-HOLD !!!!! ONCE AGAIN YOU ARE LYING !!! GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT AND BE MORE PROFISSIONAL !!!!!!!
THE ID.4 DOES HAVE HEAT PUMP !!!!!!!!!!!!! JESUUUSSSSSSSSS YOU ARE A TOTAL INCOMPETENT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THE ID.4 DOES CAME WITH EVSE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THE ID.4 DOES FULL OTA !!!!!!!!!!
@@BUNKERPT is that slated foe the U.S.? Seems like all of thr reviews so far are German versions and not U.S.
Alex, did you not find the Travel assist option on the ID.4, its hands free driving option? Why only comparing lane assist?
I will definitely go for Ford
Id go ve
Id go vw
ID = Immediate Dieselgate
@@hiiiofficial8306 I guess practicality really goes towards vw
but unfortunately I speak by experience I have not had good experience with this brand that is why my decision to go towards Ford
Guys, THIS REVIEW IS FULL OF MISINFORMATION !!!! The guy owns a Mach-e and IS TOTALLY BIASED !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The route planner in ID.4 can be filtered for loading activities with> 50kW ... you have not done the previous study and you are misleading people.
THERE IS TRAVEL ASSIST ON THE ID.4 THAT IT'S ALMOST AUTONOMOUS DRIVING !!!! YOU ARE BIASED OR AT LEAST YOU ARE NOT DOING YOU JOB RIGHT!
THE ID.4 DOES HAVE AUTO-HOLD !!!!! ONCE AGAIN YOU ARE LYING !!! GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT AND BE MORE PROFISSIONAL !!!!!!!
THE ID.4 DOES HAVE HEAT PUMP !!!!!!!!!!!!!
THE ID.4 DOES CAME WITH EVSE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THE ID.4 DOES FULL OTA !!!!!!!!!!
I would buy the Mach-E.
I would buy you, Joe 😈
@@JimBobe Very Creepy. I hope your padded cell is escape proof.
@@joecanis484 Joe, please. Be kind to others. No need for such rudeness
Guys, THIS REVIEW IS FULL OF MISINFORMATION !!!! The guy owns a Mach-e and IS TOTALLY BIASED !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The route planner in ID.4 can be filtered for loading activities with> 50kW ... you have not done the previous study and you are misleading people.
THERE IS TRAVEL ASSIST ON THE ID.4 THAT IT'S ALMOST AUTONOMOUS DRIVING !!!! YOU ARE BIASED OR AT LEAST YOU ARE NOT DOING YOU JOB RIGHT!
THE ID.4 DOES HAVE AUTO-HOLD !!!!! ONCE AGAIN YOU ARE LYING !!! GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT AND BE MORE PROFISSIONAL !!!!!!!
THE ID.4 DOES HAVE HEAT PUMP !!!!!!!!!!!!! JESUUUSSSSSSSSS YOU ARE A TOTAL INCOMPETENT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THE ID.4 DOES CAME WITH EVSE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THE ID.4 DOES FULL OTA !!!!!!!!!!
Excellent video as always. Alex, please enable close captioning for your hearing impaired viewers.
Did he use user submitted captions before? I know google killed that and this weekend I’ve only been able to get auto-captions on most channels. It’s a mess :/
8:30 Does it REALLY closed? Really? it doesn't seem to be latched to my eyes. LOL
Mach E all the way
Guys, THIS REVIEW IS FULL OF MISINFORMATION !!!! The guy owns a Mach-e and IS TOTALLY BIASED !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The route planner in ID.4 can be filtered for loading activities with> 50kW ... you have not done the previous study and you are misleading people.
THERE IS TRAVEL ASSIST ON THE ID.4 THAT IT'S ALMOST AUTONOMOUS DRIVING !!!! YOU ARE BIASED OR AT LEAST YOU ARE NOT DOING YOU JOB RIGHT!
THE ID.4 DOES HAVE AUTO-HOLD !!!!! ONCE AGAIN YOU ARE LYING !!! GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT AND BE MORE PROFISSIONAL !!!!!!!
THE ID.4 DOES HAVE HEAT PUMP !!!!!!!!!!!!! JESUUUSSSSSSSSS YOU ARE A TOTAL INCOMPETENT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THE ID.4 DOES CAME WITH EVSE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THE ID.4 DOES FULL OTA !!!!!!!!!!
For Auto Hold in ID4 you need to swipe down on the touchscreen and turn it on.
Guys, THIS REVIEW IS FULL OF MISINFORMATION !!!! The guy owns a Mach-e and IS TOTALLY BIASED !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The route planner in ID.4 can be filtered for loading activities with> 50kW ... you have not done the previous study and you are misleading people.
THERE IS TRAVEL ASSIST ON THE ID.4 THAT IT'S ALMOST AUTONOMOUS DRIVING !!!! YOU ARE BIASED OR AT LEAST YOU ARE NOT DOING YOU JOB RIGHT!
THE ID.4 DOES HAVE AUTO-HOLD !!!!! ONCE AGAIN YOU ARE LYING !!! GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT AND BE MORE PROFISSIONAL !!!!!!!
THE ID.4 DOES HAVE HEAT PUMP !!!!!!!!!!!!! JESUUUSSSSSSSSS YOU ARE A TOTAL INCOMPETENT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THE ID.4 DOES CAME WITH EVSE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THE ID.4 DOES FULL OTA !!!!!!!!!!
@@BUNKERPT The ID.4 doesn't have a heat pump...
The Mach e is my dream EV
Its outstanding! We just ordered one. -Ohio
Well done, that was a pretty legit EV car review which is more than I can say for most car reviewers who get their hands on an EV.
Neither. I'll wait until VW brings ID.3, thanks. Don't need a monster for urban/suburban daily driving, prefer the agility and efficiency.
Id4 looks literally VW made an EV... in other words, boring
Still handles better than most EV and top-notch build quality.
Guys, THIS REVIEW IS FULL OF MISINFORMATION !!!! The guy owns a Mach-e and IS TOTALLY BIASED !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The route planner in ID.4 can be filtered for loading activities with> 50kW ... you have not done the previous study and you are misleading people.
THERE IS TRAVEL ASSIST ON THE ID.4 THAT IT'S ALMOST AUTONOMOUS DRIVING !!!! YOU ARE BIASED OR AT LEAST YOU ARE NOT DOING YOU JOB RIGHT!
THE ID.4 DOES HAVE AUTO-HOLD !!!!! ONCE AGAIN YOU ARE LYING !!! GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT AND BE MORE PROFISSIONAL !!!!!!!
THE ID.4 DOES HAVE HEAT PUMP !!!!!!!!!!!!!
THE ID.4 DOES CAME WITH EVSE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THE ID.4 DOES FULL OTA !!!!!!!!!!
Mach E for me but i think more people will buy the ID4.
Nooooo Ford will sell a ton of these its excellent! I've ordered one.
When you called the Mach E a fatter Mustang you really meant PHATTER right? PH FAT? ;).
Alex, you are incredibly detailed. And objective. I watch every one of your videos because you don't gloss over the faults of every vehicle. Thank You! I'm leaning toward the AWD version of the ID4 as it will have a lot more kick ass to it. The alternative is the IONIQ 5 AWD. The Mustang would be in the running but in Canada they didn't mark a base model starting at 45k which means none of the trims get the 5k dollar gov't rebate. Ford Canada, anybody home???
Guys, THIS REVIEW IS FULL OF MISINFORMATION !!!! The guy owns a Mach-e and IS TOTALLY BIASED !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The route planner in ID.4 can be filtered for loading activities with> 50kW ... you have not done the previous study and you are misleading people.
THERE IS TRAVEL ASSIST ON THE ID.4 THAT IT'S ALMOST AUTONOMOUS DRIVING !!!! YOU ARE BIASED OR AT LEAST YOU ARE NOT DOING YOU JOB RIGHT!
THE ID.4 DOES HAVE AUTO-HOLD !!!!! ONCE AGAIN YOU ARE LYING !!! GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT AND BE MORE PROFISSIONAL !!!!!!!
THE ID.4 DOES HAVE HEAT PUMP !!!!!!!!!!!!!
THE ID.4 DOES CAME WITH EVSE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THE ID.4 DOES FULL OTA !!!!!!!!!!
The Ford didn't interest me. I bought an ID 4.
I drove the Mach E in California Route 1 guise. I echo what you say about the tires. I took a corner quickly to see how flat is stays, but could not even focus on that, because the tires were squealing so badly. The acceleration, while quick, does not feel quick. I expected more of a throw back in the seat from what is supposed to be instant torque delivery. Maybe the AWD will be better. Premium has the best looking wheels. GT has the ugliest wheels. I think my choice would be the Select model with AWD. That way, I can avoid the needless glass roof and spend the savings on some aftermarket wheels and tires. It will be worth having to recharge sooner to have decent handling. I'm not a fan of perforated seats, either, so win-win. The seats were pretty comfy for me, but I have not tried the VW.
I think I would be happy with either one. (I currently drive a 15 year old Odyssey, so pretty much ANYTHING else would make me happy). I'm currently leaning toward the ID.4, though. I'd really like to be able to put a hitch receiver on my car and the Mach-e isn't rated for towing. I'm not looking to tow an RV, but I would like to be able to put a bike rack on it or get a 4x8 trailer for runs to the home center. To me, the biggest drawback to the ID.4 is that they didn't design it with a frunk. That just seems like they didn't fully embrace the current EV design possibilities.
I also really like that VW included 3 years of free charging with ElectrifyAmerica. They just put a charging station in around the corner from my house.
The Honda will prob outlast them both. Lol.
I like the VW, it doesn’t scream I’m driving an EV. Given that electrics are mechanically much simpler what are the odds Volkswagen has managed to produce an EV that is halfway reliable and not drive you crazy on repairs like the typical Touareg?
I think the same, the accent colors on the vw are nice. The problem is there are no real EV features, no front trunk, not as amazing 0-60, not as much of a range, inferior software, have to buy L2 charger.
Electrify America stations for free are nice.
@@robertm.9515 I mean EV's don't need to be fast at all, range is the main thing
@@alwaysiyi272
That's true, though it's surprising that it's not when older cheap EVs like the fwd chevy bolt are.
I'd not bet my money on it, and in most ways I prefer the ID.4. VW just can't make a reliable car right now, at least not what Americans consider reliable
@@markmiller3279
I dunno, I think VW can make a reliable car, they own porsche who seems to make pretty reliable cars. Though like as another commenter said, it's not cheap.
Out of Spec Reviews has a great deep dive of ID.4 and Mach E. Kyle points out that the “Mustang’s” (not worthy of the name due to stodgy performance) touchy electronic braking is practically a deal breaker (pun intended). If VW adds one pedal driving and fixes the software bugs with the screen and the EA charging handshake, I think it’s the model to beat. th-cam.com/video/VQdsbuEo6w4/w-d-xo.html
In term of styling, I go with iD 4. But, the id 4 body can add12 inch more on the rear end, makes it an true wagon.
inspired by EVs, Now I can see sporty and fuel econemy can go together.
Guys, THIS REVIEW IS FULL OF MISINFORMATION !!!! The guy owns a Mach-e and IS TOTALLY BIASED !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The route planner in ID.4 can be filtered for loading activities with> 50kW ... you have not done the previous study and you are misleading people.
THERE IS TRAVEL ASSIST ON THE ID.4 THAT IT'S ALMOST AUTONOMOUS DRIVING !!!! YOU ARE BIASED OR AT LEAST YOU ARE NOT DOING YOU JOB RIGHT!
THE ID.4 DOES HAVE AUTO-HOLD !!!!! ONCE AGAIN YOU ARE LYING !!! GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT AND BE MORE PROFISSIONAL !!!!!!!
THE ID.4 DOES HAVE HEAT PUMP !!!!!!!!!!!!! JESUUUSSSSSSSSS YOU ARE A TOTAL INCOMPETENT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THE ID.4 DOES CAME WITH EVSE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THE ID.4 DOES FULL OTA !!!!!!!!!!
11:15 Is the "IQ" logo a variation on the ID? 😊
It’s an iD. logo.
“Even though it looks like it might not close” ( while it doesn’t close 😂) @ 8:30
Makes the most unsatisfying sound ever
The ID 4 steering wheel looks just gorgeous and modern while the mustang steering wheel looks a bit old fashioned but does its job...-my opinion-
Great detailed review ..... you kept it moving. No Fronk in the WD ? Are you kidding me? VW needs to get that off the road ASAP. It is making earth look bad. VW is not as sexy inside and out.
VW is in the business of ridding the world of Fronks. 😋
@@abraxastulammo9940 lol..... That can't be good ... can it?
If Tesla gets the federal tax credit back, I'd go with a Model Y in a heartbeat. Otherwise, I'd consider the Mach E or the new Hyundai Ioniq 5.
Well thanks to Manchin and Sinema that's never gonna happen. I'd buy a Model 3 in a heartbeat otherwise
picking up my id4 next week...main issue was towing...I have three trailers, a bike rack for two heavy 60lbs e-bikes and a cargo carrier for storing external coolers and BBQ for trips to the beach...mustang doesn't seem to be able to tow which is a non-starter for those of us that use our vehicle to tow jet-ski, utility trailers etc. The big question is: Why cannot the Mustang Mach e tow anything at all? Is it possibly a design flaw in how they designed the electric framework? VW's MEB platform and its surrounding framework can tow at least 3,000 lbs maybe more with a bigger vehicle. So that means when the VW Dune Buggy or VW e-Microbus get released they should be able to tow as well...but mustang? what framework did Ford design that cannot tow even a tiny amount?
Great review. I drive hwy 17 in the Santa Cruz mountains and my premium Mach-e handles great! I love the way it drives. It handles almost as well as my 2012 Mazda Miata. I’m surprised you didn’t mention the different drive settings on the Mach-e . I stick with “engage”
It's hard to get either one at the moment. I was told by the Ford dealer that the one they had they were not able to sell for 40 days. So, even though I drove it and had a favorable impression, I did not have the option to buy it. I asked when they'd be getting some stock in and they replied that they way of the world with the Mach-e was that it would be an order only car at the moment. One reason given for this was the microchip shortage. At the moment, there is going to be a wait unless you can snag one on the lot at a fair price vs. having to have a bidding war with other buyers to get the one on the lot. I don't know what the lead time is for the Mach-e if you order one? No VW around here even has an ID.4. So, I can't even try out to compare and see visually.
Where do you live right now? I live in the Tampa/Saint Pete/Clearwater area, and my two closest VW dealers each have an I.D 4, though only Lokey VW in Clearwater has salesstaff just dying to take you for a test drive in it. AutoNation Ford in Saint Pete has a “California Route 1“ model that they are happy to have you test drive, and Walker Ford is allowing you to sign up to take a Mach-e home for a couple days to see how you like living with it!
@@beach1963 I'm in the Omaha, NE area. There are Mach-e's around, but I've not seen any ID.4's yet. I've not checked at the other dealers to see if theirs are for sale or if they got them as service loaners and can't sell them until they get their service loaner miles. It's not hard to test drive one, it's just hard to find one that they can sell you. I don't particularly want a service loaner as I think those will be "tested" out pretty thoroughly. I don't know how long the wait would be if I ordered one would be.
I have chosen Mach E.
The hands-free bluecruise is already here and it really works.
In Canada, ID.4 base pricing is much more aggressive at 45k$Cdn towards the Mach-E at 52. Additionally even the Id.4 upped trim at 53, it still qualifies for both federal 5k$ and Quebec's 8k$ EV rebates for a total 12k$. Mach-E does not qualify for the fed and there is no way to get the big battery AND the Qc rebate. Pricing wise, ID.4 becomes a real deal here! Mine on order, amongst the first Cdn deliveries due later this summer. BTW for now available only in British Columbia and Québec. Rest of Canada will have to wait longer.
I always appreciate your in-depth reviews Alex and had vested-interest been awaiting this one. I do agree with your assessment that if you want to stand out in the crowd get the Mustang Mach-E. I took delivery of an ID.4 First Edition just yesterday (17 March 21) and I'm really enjoying it. But no one is turning their heads. At a casual glance they likely think it's just another VW Tiguan and don't bother to look more closely. I actually want some anonymity this time around so I'm good with it, but again I do concede your point.
Being invisible is a good thing - not as many speeding tickets!
Only convertible drivers need the “Look at me” thing. I don’t want or need to be gawked at.
Great video comparison. I still don't understand why Ford used the Mustang moniker instead of Edge, or Explorer, or just Mach -E. I do know why they didn't name it the Escape -E. And what's up with "Mach"? There is nothing on the car that is the speed of sound, except the electrons that run the car, and they go at the speed of light.
The ID.4 has been tested, validated and survived the European market. They have been successful with the ID.3 version too. I suspect the issues with electrify America are more to do with them being built and shipped from Europe which operate a different electrical grid. I wouldn't be writing off VW anytime soon!
Guys, THIS REVIEW IS FULL OF MISINFORMATION !!!! The guy owns a Mach-e and IS TOTALLY BIASED !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The route planner in ID.4 can be filtered for loading activities with> 50kW ... you have not done the previous study and you are misleading people.
THERE IS TRAVEL ASSIST ON THE ID.4 THAT IT'S ALMOST AUTONOMOUS DRIVING !!!! YOU ARE BIASED OR AT LEAST YOU ARE NOT DOING YOU JOB RIGHT!
THE ID.4 DOES HAVE AUTO-HOLD !!!!! ONCE AGAIN YOU ARE LYING !!! GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT AND BE MORE PROFISSIONAL !!!!!!!
THE ID.4 DOES HAVE HEAT PUMP !!!!!!!!!!!!!
THE ID.4 DOES CAME WITH EVSE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THE ID.4 DOES FULL OTA !!!!!!!!!!
My son just purchased a premium Awd Mach E. After taking my opportunity to test drive his Mach E. From your review and seeing the VW. I would pick the Ford hands down in overall styling and performance. Looking at the VW. It looks like a VW used an SUV and made an EV. The interior was bland in the VW. Batteries under the hood seems strange. When I drove my son's Mustang Mach E premium Awd. It was fantastic. I was surprised at it's performance and charging time was more than exceptable. It's ride and handling was great. Hands free driving is currently being offered thru Ford with a download. You mentioned the Frunk. The Frunks deviders are removable and had a removable drain plug if you want to ice down some cold ones at a tailgate party. The Ford is sexy and imo, I feel handles amazing. If you looked at your Mach E. I don't think you'll find the ford name. I believe Ford will eventually make the Mustang it's own brand within the Ford motor company. Many people like myself have owned several Mustangs and love them. The Mustang Mach E opens a new Mustang consumer market that wants a Mustang, but need four doors and a usable rear seats. I'm one of those customers.
Skoda Enyaq will be same as Volkswagen in driving (same platform), but more space and way better interior and exterior design. Picking the upcoming 4-wheel from that will also be faster than the rearwheel version. Not on par with the Mach E in speed, but 1.5 seconds faster than this ID4 in 0-60, while keeping the benefits of better suspension.
Mach-e for me, until the Koreans arrive and the Ariya disrupts the scene.
Glad to see more EVs because I am buying a fully loaded Mustang Mach-E 4X Premium.
"Half baked".. lol. That's how people at Ford decided to call this a Mustang.
Honestly though, having seen both, I'm already considering buying a VW ID.4 and Im a Ford guy
MME is rated to tow in Europe. Any thoughts?
From what I've seen on a previous video vw needs to scrap this ev and go back to the drawing board, Especially that ugly ass info system!
How can you buy a EV that’s German when they can’t even have electrical systems work in ICE cars ???
Damn George you speak the truth and gave me something to think about.
George I gotta 💩 now
It’s not that bad
@@noonesbusiness959 lol
ID4 interior design and materials has that Walmart vibe to it, while the Mach-E feels more IKEA. I prefer the E aesthetics(in&out) and performance.
That is the dealbreaker for me. It has a lot of Prius vibes to it (gimmicky for the sake of gimmicks) and the center console is imminently impractical. I'm not sure why they didn't go all the way with the traditional styling if that is how they were going to market it.
This was a great review and super useful. Very densely packed with information. So glad I watched. Have test driven both plus the model Y and leaning towards the Mustang, but still stuck on Tesla’s network and thinking the EV rebate will be extended.
The VW seems like a mediocre attempt on an electric car.
Why? It’s not perfect but I wouldn’t say it mediocre.
Guys, THIS REVIEW IS FULL OF MISINFORMATION !!!! The guy owns a Mach-e and IS TOTALLY BIASED !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The route planner in ID.4 can be filtered for loading activities with> 50kW ... you have not done the previous study and you are misleading people.
THERE IS TRAVEL ASSIST ON THE ID.4 THAT IT'S ALMOST AUTONOMOUS DRIVING !!!! YOU ARE BIASED OR AT LEAST YOU ARE NOT DOING YOU JOB RIGHT!
THE ID.4 DOES HAVE AUTO-HOLD !!!!! ONCE AGAIN YOU ARE LYING !!! GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT AND BE MORE PROFISSIONAL !!!!!!!
THE ID.4 DOES HAVE HEAT PUMP !!!!!!!!!!!!!
THE ID.4 DOES CAME WITH EVSE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THE ID.4 DOES FULL OTA !!!!!!!!!!
The problem with VW in my area they don't have any dealers you have to drive 2 or 3 hours for a dealer. Don't care much for VW either mustang looks better and has more usable features.
Guys, THIS REVIEW IS FULL OF MISINFORMATION !!!! The guy owns a Mach-e and IS TOTALLY BIASED !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The route planner in ID.4 can be filtered for loading activities with> 50kW ... you have not done the previous study and you are misleading people.
THERE IS TRAVEL ASSIST ON THE ID.4 THAT IT'S ALMOST AUTONOMOUS DRIVING !!!! YOU ARE BIASED OR AT LEAST YOU ARE NOT DOING YOU JOB RIGHT!
THE ID.4 DOES HAVE AUTO-HOLD !!!!! ONCE AGAIN YOU ARE LYING !!! GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT AND BE MORE PROFISSIONAL !!!!!!!
THE ID.4 DOES HAVE HEAT PUMP !!!!!!!!!!!!!
THE ID.4 DOES CAME WITH EVSE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THE ID.4 DOES FULL OTA !!!!!!!!!!
Looking forward to my Mach e, 4 wheel drive and extended Battery!
Kudos to both manufacturers for bringing competitive EVs to the marketplace. Mach E is my choice, but I could see someone taking the VW. Enjoying the hell out my 2017 Ford Focus Electric. Next one one will probably be a Mach E GT.
Excellent review, as usual!
Guys, THIS REVIEW IS FULL OF MISINFORMATION !!!! The guy owns a Mach-e and IS TOTALLY BIASED !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The route planner in ID.4 can be filtered for loading activities with> 50kW ... you have not done the previous study and you are misleading people.
THERE IS TRAVEL ASSIST ON THE ID.4 THAT IT'S ALMOST AUTONOMOUS DRIVING !!!! YOU ARE BIASED OR AT LEAST YOU ARE NOT DOING YOU JOB RIGHT!
THE ID.4 DOES HAVE AUTO-HOLD !!!!! ONCE AGAIN YOU ARE LYING !!! GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT AND BE MORE PROFISSIONAL !!!!!!!
THE ID.4 DOES HAVE HEAT PUMP !!!!!!!!!!!!! JESUUUSSSSSSSSS YOU ARE A TOTAL INCOMPETENT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THE ID.4 DOES CAME WITH EVSE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THE ID.4 DOES FULL OTA !!!!!!!!!!
@@BUNKERPT nonsense
ID4 wins, mustang is ugly
Love your work! I visited a Ford dealer who had a demo of MachE premium. They only allow you to ride as passenger. The sales rep demonstrated the route planner with a trip to Disney, normally a 12 hit drive. The Mache planner gave a 43 hour drive with charging. Not sure if the east I95 corridor doesn’t have fast charge, but that presentation really dampened my enthusiasm. .
I tested a Mach-e Premium last weekend from my local Ford dealer. I called the salesman ahead to schedule it. He was working from home. My son and I arrived, I talked to the receptionist, she handed me the keys and pointed to the car. Did not even check my DL,credit, or send a salesman with me. They did not limit my time. We took it for an hour. It probably helped that I bought my Ford Edge from them 5 years ago (my first Ford). We have an excellent local Ford dealer (Anderson Ford). The nearest Tesla dealer is an hour away.
My son owns a brand new Tesla Y performance edition which we arrived in and parked in front of the showroom. so i test drove both cars the same day. I am conflicted. I have a reservation in for a GT right now. I like many things better on the Tesla. Build quality on my son's Tesla is excellent but he waited for that to improve and took delivery on Dec 31st 2020. I'll probably go with the Mach-e GT at this point. But when Tesla gets the tax credit back, I might reconsider.
Sorry for not being specific with details but I would have to write a full review to cover all the different things i like best on each car and don't have time while reading this at work.
10:42 It's pretty obvious that your leg lays flatter in the ID4 and more crouched in the Mach E where the front half of your thigh wasn't supported at all.
I don't think either of these are going to win a beauty prize. Seems like the boxy Bronco styling could have been a better retro choice for Ford. To me Ioniq 5 seems more interesting inside and outside.
Disagree, but of course looks are personal. Look at the Mustang in person, and it’s quite striking. I REALLY liked it in white when I saw it last year. Was not expecting to.