Relationship Therapist Ranks '90s Romcoms
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How do romances in romantic comedies compare to real life? What’s your favorite ‘90s romcom?
Licensed therapist Jonathan Decker and filmmaker Alan Seawright are doing a blast from the past by watching and ranking ‘90s romcoms. They’re ranking the romances from Clueless, Never Been Kissed, Pretty Woman, Sleepless in Seattle, and While You Were Sleeping. Jonathan ranks them from worst to best in terms of relationship quality, and Alan makes snide remarks about the quality of the films - though some of them are great - and he really goes off one one of them. Can you guess which one?
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Why do I feel like Alan just vented the weight of the world off his chest!?! Haha. In all seriousness, that was hilarious! I now want to know what other movies Alan needs to rant about, because if its so bad that ALAN (one of the most compassionate people and film makers out there) NEEDS TO VENT...that movie messed up BIG TIME!
Please review the relationship in Love Hard. My 18 year old daughter and I watched it and both loved it. ❤
Okay, While you were sleeping is my favorite movie. I love it! It’s a daily quote movie in our family haha
“Nice uhh…. Sweater.” In sweater weather haha of course. ❤😂
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The fact that the teacher in Never Been Kissed thinks she's a minor for most of the movie should put it at the bottom of the list for that reason alone
Agreed, their entire relationship is based on a lie, and there's no way that either of them would be viewed sympathetically today.
THIS. I was just thinking the same thing. At least Pretty Woman is two informed, consenting adults. NBK is a woman lying about her identity and a man attracted to his minor female student. Hard. Pass.
EXACTLY!!! At least with Pretty Woman they were both adults, he knew what she did for a living AND he paid for services.
FACTS!
As a teen, I loved NBK, but watching it in my late 30s after copious growth and therapy really opened my eyes. That movie is awful realistically and sets a bad message to young women.
The hero of this video was the editor who so flawlessly illustrated the scope and magnitude of Alan's anger. Chef's kiss.
Came here to write the same, absolute legends, the editors!
this is the comment I was looking for! TH-cam Editing Award goes to....this video!
It truly was amazing. I was in tears. Absolutely hilarious.
The editing was amazing. My husband only heard it and couldn't understand why I was laugh-crying so hard that my face muscles hurt.
Running through the dramatic onlookers of V for Vendetta during V's big speech - and plastering Alan on the screens instead - absolutely killed me.
I suspect the reason for the (lingering) darkness in the Pretty Woman script is that it wasn’t meant to be a romantic comedy to begin with. I also don’t see their relationship quite as one-sided. On paper Vivienne is the one that needs saving, but really she isn’t broken. He is. She lives in bad circumstances, yes, but Edward can’t hold down a relationship, does a horrible job, has all the money in the world, but no idea how to enjoy it… The nastiness of the fight shows the difference between them quite well. She is a lot more mature in many ways. And she’s absolutely willing to walk away until he digs into his feelings and gives her a proper apology. In the end, too, he tries to “buy” her to stay in his life, but it’s not what she wants, so she walks away. He has to get over himself to deserve her. Really it’s a story of personal growth as well.
Very good analysis! I was a young adult when Pretty woman came out and heard years later that Vivienne was supposed to die at the end, but they switched it up.
Yeah... I was listening to them wondering if they had ever even seen Pretty Woman.
Very well said
That's so true. She did have a hurtful past but she is mostly healed while he is currently leading with multiple problems. She is more mature than him in most cases because she knows how to be strong and true to herself while being treated badly by most ppl.
BTW your comment made want to do a video analysis of this movie. 😂
Thank you! I am shocked that they ranked that one at the bottom. I mean, they at least are pretty honest with each other. They know truths about each other that they hide from others and being with each other let’s them be more honest with even themselves. Three of the others are based on pure lies! In two of them, they know so little about the other person, it’s crazy!!
While You Were sleeping: the actress who played Elsie, Glynis Johns, passed away this January at the age of 100. RIP Elsie, you were amazing. ♥
She was also the mom in Mary Poppins
OMG REALLY? She passed? 😭
honestly I'm surprised she was still alive
Oh no!! I just looked her up in December after watching “While You Were Sleeping”. I recognized her voice as the mom from “Mary Poppins” and wanted to confirm, and was glad to find she was still alive. 100 is a good long go of things.
Loved her in mary Poppins
I'm German and I remember my mum ranting about Hollywood romcoms one day back in the 90ies when I was a teenager. She sat me down and said: "Americans might believe this is what love is about, but here in Germany actually falling in love isn't the story and isn't the complicated part, the story starts at the wedding and is nothing like those films. It's about accepting that your partner isn't perfect and about respecting yourself and each other as people. This stuff is like food from MC Donald's and true love is like grandma's roast pork with red cabbage and dumplings."😂
I agree about all of that… except the cabbage LOL
And btw I’m American and think normal people agree with your mum. It’s a shame that other countries view Americans through the lens of entertainment, which is always stilted toward some story goal and rarely realistic.
I have a lot of Asian friends who think this about our American family culture and I keep telling them that what they see on TV isn’t how we really are (for the most part)… for instance, me and my siblings take care of our aging parents and they are usually shocked.
@@Liberteabelle yes unfortunately Hollywood promotes very negative stereotypes about the USA.
But don't worry, there's negative stereotypes about every country. 😁
@@helgaioannidis9365 lol so true! (But a LOT of American entertainment out there…)
I love that analogy!
I am LIVING for Alan's pure rage at Never Been Kissed. Literally the highlight of my day, thank you 😂💀
I live, but to serve. (Alan here)
It spoke to me! I have always hated that movie, even when I was a teen!
Never been kissed just refers to her young age she is portraying.. nothing literal. (Love you, Alan! 😁 Pls don’t hate me!
I'm watching this at night, cackling at the rant, and hoping I don't wake my daughter.
This is the sort of passion I LOVE and often do myself lmao
"love is a commitment, not an action" YES
Soooo good!!
while you were sleeping is simply the best, for all the reasons. that scene in the church when she finally comes clean with all of them, her raw honesty and vulnerability, their grace and humor, just gets me every time, and i start ugly blubbing all over the place. so incredibly well acted all around. one of my top 10 rainy day feel-good movies 💗
I totally agree!! That scene gets me every time😍
I cried at this clip. ‘Nuff said.
Same
Just as Alan finished his rant, a firetruck and ambulance drove past my house and it was perfect.
Damn you made me laugh so hard 😂😂😂
My favorite part of this video because I agree 100%. I LOLed so hard
😂😂😂
The editor deserves an Oscar for Alan’s rant
David is the best!!
Oh my that was hilarious! 🤣
It’s even funnier for me because I just recently watched V for Vendetta, so it’s hilarious seeing the reference so soon after watching it. But yes, 10/10 amazing editing and brilliant joke
I will say, Bill Pullman's character in Sleepless in Seattle, Walter, might be one of my favorite parts about the movie. Sure, Annie and Walter basically don't have any romantic chemistry or passion in the movie, reading more as friends than future wife and husband, so they're clearly not supposed to be right for each other even though they're engaged, at least in movie-language... But I appreciate how he takes their breakup. He's obviously hurt, but understands that Annie's looking for a different kind of relationship than he can give her. He's not the jealous, possessive or mean-spirited type that Rom-Coms often paint the ex as. Instead he gives her his blessing to find her happiness elsewhere simply because he wants her to be happy.
Despite you being very specific, my brain still managed to mixed up your comment as talking about Bill Pullman in While You Were Sleeping not Sleepless in Seattle and I was SO confused lol.
@@charlief3169 Ah yes, the Bill Pullman in "While You Were Sleepless In Seattle" mix-up
@@charlief3169same here😅
Walter is a good solid man in the film - in the beginning when he’s trying to learn her family and romantically treating her to New York and going to Tiffany’s and picking out china - they are obviously two peas in a pod. His reaction when she broke their engagement was kind and I think he would have taken her back if it didn’t work out.
I like Walter's line "I don't want to be someone you're settling for. I don't want to be someone that anyone settles for." He has self-respect.
Alan going off on Never Been Kissed is something I never knew I needed to see, but I did. I couldn't stop laughing the longer it went on, and your editor did a great job at escalating it all. 😂🤣
In Clueless, Josh has this talk with Cher, after the stressed lawyer scolds her and says she’s destroyed her father’s case. What Josh says there, shows how Josh sees her good heart, he sees how she tries to take care of everyone. It’s not just that she’s cute, he sees her good core.
Fully agree with this. He appreciates the core of who she is and sees the lovely young woman that she has been growing into.
Agreed. She is attractive sure, but the arc of the movie shows Josh wouldn't fall for just that. And I think it's implied that he actually doesn't have a problem getting dates if he feels like it (of course looking like Paul Rudd certainly doesn't hurt XD).
He also sees her taking on helping others in her way like the makeover and the food/stuff drive. I don't think he realizes he helps influence those changes but he ends up in situations where he gets to see her grow and appreciates her efforts. ❤
@@ariwl1I agree. Josh likes her looks but he also likes Cher for her personality and all of her quirks.
Yes. I loved how he stood up for her in that scene because he knew she didn’t mean anything malicious by it and he pointed out if he really cared about these files, the lawyer should have paid close attention.
Agreed. He did see how much she cared about people and if she cares about someone or something, she puts her mind to it.
Props to the editing team for how they handled that Alan Meltdown xD
I fully enjoyed the V for Vendetta editing to the fullest. That is praiseworthy
I enjoyed the editing on this so much. It enhanced everything and Jono is trying to get the video back on track and Alan says hold my popcorn 😂
I'm watching it right now and I'm fkng DYING!! This is the best thing that's ever happened on the channel. 😂😂
A bit harsh on Drew Barrymore. But definitely entertaining rant.
Kinda agree on her acting in that movie though 🤣🙃. Definitely worst movie of all 5.
I got to the Meltdown... so very good. God, this will be in my head whenever I go on a rant
I LOVE LOVE LOVE how they were able to respect Allen's VERY strong opinions (which i uave none on this subject) but at the same time made it almost impossible for people to get offended. They've done it a few times but this is the most drastic example. What an important skill to have as a channel. Everyone on this team is a genius and I love all of it.
I saw While You Were Sleeping five times in the movie theatre with different family members and didn't get tired of it. Bill Pullman was so wonderful in Space Balls and played the best grieving widower with an angel wife in Casper.
And his speech almost at the end of "Independence Day", oh my, how he escalated the words. 😍
"You don't jump straight to engagement." You do when it's Bill Pullman! 😍
Fair!
Bill Pullman's cocky smirk is The best
Was just watching his son in “Lessons in Chemistry”. He was fantastic. But his VOICE and mannerisms. I knew he was his son before I knew he was his son.
People have done crazier things.
I think Bill Pullman in "While You Were Sleeping" was my first crush 😍
Thanks so much for your "Never Been Kissed" rant, Alan! Teacher/Student relationships always make me uneasy, especially if they're romanticised. It doesn't matter if Sam and Josie are both adults around the same age, he THOUGHT that she was his underage student for all the time he knew her, meaning that their entire relationship was based on a lie. He also had a girlfriend, and I don't think that it was mentioned if they'd broken up or not. Sam actually compliments Josie at one point, then adds, "Actually, I shouldn't say that, BECAUSE I'm your teacher."
I hate that line so much,
> Their whole relationship is based on a lie
It's a NON-ISSUE.
@@Zeithri come on dude literally hit on a teen without knowing her well enough as a person...of course it's based on lie
@@wengeltesema8724The uncomfortable truth is that he had the hots for what he thought was a teen and I don't know how old he's suppose to be in the movie, but I can tell you from experience that this is relatively common... Not defending, just saying.
However the point of it in the end is that she isn't a teen, she is an adult, and that makes it alright.
But it say " _it's all based on a lie!_ ", that's stupid. So what, you like cheese but your partner doesn't, yet lies about it and now your relationship isin jeopardy for a cheese? Do you honestly believe that?
@@Zeithri Who bases their whole relationship on cheese? Stupid analogy
The whole foundation of their relationship was the idea that she was underage and he was her teacher
If thats a lie then the foundation is damaged
Yeah as a teacher those relationships freak me out
Never been kissed was one of my favourite movies as a teenager, but when I watched years later and I had teenage nieces, I realised the huge ick factor…
Whilst you were sleeping was always my favourite and remains so these days. The chemistry of both leads is unmatched, the whole cast is hilarious and those family conversations where everyone is talking about different things (“can you imagine Dustin Hoffman taking the Alamo?”) are so much like my family that I find them really endearing. But like you said, for me the biggest pull was the fact that they were both so attracted and so respectful of his brother, regardless of how deserving he was
While You Were Sleeping is my all time favorite romcom. It’s a Christmas movie to me and I watch it several times a year. I love Lucy and Bill Pullman together-but better yet, I LOVE THE FAMILY, the neighbors, the coworkers, the things that happen while Peter is sleeping, Chicago, I’m in NYC and it makes me nostalgic about Christmas lights seen from apartment windows, the winter, the Christmas Tree she pulls up the window. I love that it ended being ranked no. 1 on here.
Same. The overlapping dinner conversation gets me every times.
@@McShelf1 These mashed potatoes are so creamy.
@@grutarg2938 John Wayne wasn’t Spanish.
@@McShelf1 Would you want to see Duston Hoffman save the Alamo?
To the editor who overlay V for vendetta during Alan's rant, your my hero. I started rolling with laughter when I saw that.
I rewound the video to that part SO MANY TIMES because it's just freaking hilarious 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Same hahahaha the drama
11:42 Alan’s rant
12:20 First V for Vendetta clip
You took the words right out of my mouth.
im loosing my shit with alan so pissed about never been kissed with the jaws music im DYING
Jono looks a bit shellshocked by the end there too!
Came here to say the same. Him going off was the funniest frickin' thing I've seen all week!!
The rant, the music, and the shots from V for Vendetta were a masterclass in editing magistry. KUDOS to the editing team for Cinema Therapy :D
I may be off base, but I get the vague impression that Alan doesn't care for that movie.
"Growing into a version of you that was always in there" is so beautiful and powerful!
I agree that While you were sleeping is healthier. Also, the rant about Drew Barrymore and the editing was hilarious. Keep up the great work!
Actually you got it spot on with Clueless being so like Emma - because it actually is Emma! Clueless was actually a reworking of Emma for modern audiences. This was right around the 90s resurgence of Austen being popular thanks to the success of the BBC version Pride and Prejudice. That's why you feel the narrative beat-for-beats match. Cher is Emma, Josh is Mr Knightley, Tai is Harriet Smith, Elton is Mr Elton and Christian is Frank Churchill. Those are the direct changeovers, other characters were blended to make singular characters to trim the story down but yeah, that's why you guys hit it on the head noticing the Emma similarities 😊💜
Came to the comments to see if someone made this point... Good on you!! ;) Austen is everywhere.
Came here to make the exact same comment haha, thank you for your service 😂
@@PillowHairBlog Austen 3:16
I listen to this podcast that said the Jane Fairfax of clueless was the gay agenda.
Also Pretty Woman is "Pygmalion" / "My Fair Lady"... which is another reason Pretty Woman a "classic" but also a big part of why he's so terrible... because Henry Higgins is terrible...
"Love is safety and respect." Put that on stone!
I would watch While You Were Sleeping over and over as a little girl. I introduced the movie a couple years ago to my daughter and she's just as obsessed. Now we watch it together. It's a great mommy/daughter movie.
The editing for this episode was so perfectly unhinged and I love it
I just want to give your editor a massive round of applause. Alan's rant was fun, but damn, you took it to a whole new level of awesome and amazing!
Yes that was excellent!
Yes!!! Sooo dang good!!! 😂
I agree, the editing was excellent and fun this round
That rant and Sleepless in Seattle are excellent examples of how editing and sound engineering can impact the viewing experience 😂
I cackled and immediately rewatched it
Alan *goes on rant* 😠
Jono: "Now, Sleepless in Seattle"
Alan "ooooh" 😁
He was 💯% correct about the scabs.
I agree about Clueless, it’s a wonderful film.
If you want to analyse more rom coms, my suggestions would be: the Princess Bride, Notting hill, 27 Dresses, Bridget Jones Diary, Strictly Ballroom,
Shakespeare in Love, Amelie, Chungking Express, Punch Drunk Love, Silver Linings Playbook, The Fault in our Stars
Strictly Ballroom, YES!
Kate and Leopold is one of my favorites
The editing during that rant montage was oscar worthy 🤣
I love yours guys' constant freak outs during Never Been Kissed. 😂 Totally appropriate. And Alan freaking out is pure gold, lol.
Agreed, I loved Alan shamelessly going off on the inappropriate relationship, it was pure gold!
And Alan's rant about his Drew Barrymore hate finally being vindicated by her scabbing during the strikes is just awesome. He got a lot off his chest here 😂
Forget # crying with alan. It is now # ranting with alan.
My sister thinks i hate love because i get so aggravated at the depictions of romance in media. Fighting until you realize oh no its love is NOT LOVE. A grand gesture is NOT LOVE. And neither is most of what we saw on TV, so when i see one now thats good and makes me happy, it feels so rare and sooo good.
She’d probably hate me since I am actually romance repulsed. My mom also thought I hated love because I found the romcoms she watched BORING and I kept calling the characters idiots. It’ll why do so many romcoms have the “idiot plot”? I also never had the “boy crazy” phase growing up and had no context for it so I just thought my classmates were having some collective mental breakdown. And whenever adults would do the “so who do you wanna marry and have babies with?” Question I actually would dry heave. Weird that they never asked the boys that…why is there so much stigma against women having no interest in romance. It it’s perfectly fine for men?
Just get off my case Aphrodite! I’m outside your jurisdiction!
Growing up I also hated most of the romance in media which my parents always ridiculed and said is unreasonable reaction. Having grown up and seeing that I was always right to feel icky about those - that feels good to realize. And yeah, seeing the healthy relationships depictions in media more and more is just heartwarming!
@@navineon4961 it’s especially rough when you’re a girl and you don’t like the romance genre. People act like it’s some crime.
Too many times the Grand Gesture is used as a love bomb in manipulative relationships. Is it always that? Of course not! But is it an elevation of an already caring respectful relationship or is it used as a replacement for same?
I think I've only once seen a character that does grand gestures and it comes of as actual love. That would be Jack from This is Us. And it only works because he tries his best to do the little things to be a good husband and father too. And then tries to improve on himself to not cock it up like that again.
You should do a whole series ranking the characters of specific actors, like Drew Barrymore, Meg Ryan, Tom Hanks, etc!
I love Alan’s rant, I feel that level of frustration about quite a few movies/tv shows in my bones lmao
We do see Josh fall in love with Cher slowly, it's just subtle!! First, the car scene with Josh, Cher, and Josh's at the time girlfriend is the first sign that Josh finds her charming/sees her hidden intelligence. Also, the more Cher grows and begins to genuinely care about other people and put their needs first, Josh is the first to take notice and he begins to fall in love with her. He goes from calling her out on her crap to seeing how much she's changed from an annoying sister figure to a generous, loving and genuinely selfless young woman. He only starts to like her when she starts to mature and better herself, "makeover her soul" if you will.
Also it's addressed in the movie that Cher isn't interested in anything below the equator until she KNOWS he's the right one, and even toward the end when we see they're together, she says "gosh I'm only 16!" so she's very aware of her age and willing to take it very slow until she's a consenting adult. :)
I think that he starts liking her even before then as he was jealous when she started hanging out with Christian
@yummysushipyjamas you're so right I forgot about that!! He looks past the chiffon and sees her heart a lot throughout the film
He's her step brother though... how is that my super weird and unhealthy.
@nonyabidness5708 I think that part is because it's an Emma spinoff, where everyone is related basically haha. They do make it very clear that Cher's dad and Josh's mom weren't married for very long and haven't been together for YEARS to try and soften that ick. EX stepbrother😅
Josh totally falls in love with her! My favourite scene is where they’re in the car with his pretentious college girlfriend, and Cher actually corrects her on Shakespeare. The look on Paul Rudd’s face at that moment, when he realizes Cher is actually smart, is my fave.
Editors are WINNING this. They've comepletely elevated the content and are absolutely putting theyre creative into the world. Just. Chef's kiss.
We love our editors so much!
The cancelled cycle was great.
@@KrisRN23935I was laughing so hard during that! The best X)
Complete with Swiftie reference!
I watch While you were sleeping every year while I decorate my Christmas tree. Her story of being alone and falling in love with the whole family mirrors mine… I love the scene where they are opening presents and she’s just watching them, just drinking in the interactions. And then you see a stocking with her name on it . Such a wonderful feeling. It’s less about two people and more about finding your village.
“While You Were Sleeping” is one of my FAVORITE romcoms EVER!!! Though Lucy was a tad selfish of trying to hang around Jack’s family just to hide her loneliness, there is SUCH a great relationship development between Lucy and Jack that ACTUALLY develops into love because they spend time with each other (without it being sexual). There’s a GREAT cast, GREAT humor, and GREAT respect between Jack and Lucy. PLEASE everybody watch for a great feel-good movie ♥️♥️♥️
It's really a great cast. Everyone is perfect. So many who only have a few seconds in the movie but you remember them because the acting was so great. One favourite scene is when Jack drives Peter in the wheelchair to the elevator and Peter decides to "confess". They're both hilarious.
So Alan…tell me how you really feel about “Never Been Kissed” 😂😂😂
😅😂😅😂🤣
90's Rom-Coms lied to us about what relationships look like. There is no "happily ever after". Relationships are tough and require constant work and compromise.
Preach
Plus drew Barrymore best work!!
So no fairy godmother?
I mean, it shows us what the generation that made it thinks about the relationships. If you look at many older people now - it's not a lie, it's literally how these relationships look like. That they're not really healthy is a different story.
It's not like 90's rom coms are different in that regard, basically all romance books and movies end at the engagement or wedding like there isn't anything afterward to worry about
The editing on the rant was fire! 😂
The first time my husband went out of town I missed him so much I bought French kiss, Dirty Dancing and Dances with Wolves. He passed recently and I miss him in every way people show love. In everyday moments. He taught me a lot and is why I have love for anything at all. He is my best friend and I miss him.
The Never Been Kissed tirade set to Jaws music was absolutely hilarious omg
With the editing of V for Vendetta. Perfect!!
I loved While you were sleeping as a kid, because Bill Pullman. But as an adult I love it even more, because I’ve lost my parents pretty early and I totally get her not just falling in love with Bill Pullman, but also falling in love with his family and being a part of a family again. Makes me cry almost every time 🥲
You might enjoy Alexis Hall's romance novel take on it, Ten Things That Never Happened.
I love Bill Pullman too, and his entire family are wonderful. My son and I love the Christmas present scene with the sister and her gloves. So sweet! And… I don’t drink any more; I don’t drink any less either!
Hugs to you, I also experienced early loss and I feel ya. This is my top comfort movie and even thinking about the Christmas scene makes me tear up.
That movie had an absurdly stellar cast. I'm embarrassed by the number of times I watched that movie not recognizing the grandma as Mrs. Banks.
@@willah.7259 thanks I´ll have a look
Bless the editors who created the MASTERPIECE that is Alan's rant omg 😂😂😂
I have a movie recommendation! Have you ever considered watching A League Of Their Own, maybe touching on "sibling rivalry," jealousy, and sacrifice? I feel like you guys would get a lot out of that one, it always makes me cry. Such a classic!
I also just want to say, your videos uplift and inspire me so much both as someone on the track to recovery and as a creator. I have been suffering some serious writers block lately but the way you break down relationships AND story structure always makes me want to fight it and start again. I watch your videos when I'm down and tired after long, stressful days, and they always generate great conversation between me and my best friend. Thank you both for what you do, your channel is a safe haven for so many and it's always a joy to see you uploading new and insightful things. And this one was just a lot of fun!
Plus…. More Bill Pullman and Tom Hanks 😂😂
Yes! Love this movie!
The JAWS music while Alan goes off the rails about why Never Been Kissed is terrible has me DEAD 😂
Not the editors putting Alan in over the V for Vendetta montage 🤣🤣🤣
i'm LOSING it
Probs to the editing team 😂 I absolutely lost it when you edited Jonathan’s expression with the little “horrified looks from everyone in the room” lyrics 😂👏👏
Alan's Meltdown was GOLD! More please!
Alan flipping out over Never Been Kissed and Drew Berrymore made my day. And the drama the editors made it, was fantastic!
Alan’s rant on Never Been Kissed is so unhinged, I can’t.
The editing!!! The rants!! I love it. 10/10 you guys!
15:55 Thanks you 2 for quoting "Joe versus the volcano", my favorite Meg Ryan & Tom Hanks movie that nobody remembers and talks about... I simply love your show.
While You Were Sleeping is in my top 10 movies. When I was a hopeless romantic teenager/YA desperate for a large family holiday with my future spouse, I'd cry at the Christmas scene where she's just watching the entire family and you can tell it's what she's never had but always longed for. I still remember the first family Christmas with my husband, feeling similarly to Lucy in that scene, just relishing the chaos and love with a full heart 🥹
It's such a warm and comfy scene. I'm glad your dream eventually came true. :)
It is not a 1990s Romcom, but I would love to see the two of you address "When Harry Met Sally" (1989) as how relationships develop, how our romantic history impacts our current relationship, and whether or not it is true that men and women can't be friends because the sex thing gets in the way. I will be upfront that I have used this film in an undergrad sociology class about Marriage and Family. Just would love Jonathan's take on Harry and Sally's relationship and Alan's on the filmmaking.
Yes!!
Easily my favorite romcom of all time. Harry’s speech at the end is one of my favorite pieces of dialogue.
LOVE that film! Lots of topics to cover on Rob Reiner’s directing genius and the writing and complexity of platonic and romantic relationships both good and bad, the clips of how other couples met and ended up together! Oh my gosh! That would be amazing!!!
Yes! One of the best films!
I just realized how much her son Jack has her same smile @ 14:30
Her looks so much like her when he smiles
I can't tell how much I was wanting for you guys bring "While you were sleeping"! Thas one of my favorite movies
While you were sleeping!!! Always my favorite Rom Com but hardly anyone has seen it. Bill Pullman 👌🏼 Paul Rudd 👌🏼 love them both
Hardly anyone your age 😉
Josh definitely sees Cher for more than others do. When Cher’s father’s associate attorney calls her a moron for filing something “incorrectly” (because he gave a professional lawyer task, that he didn’t want to do, to an unqualified 16-year-old girl), Josh immediately responds with “she’s *not* a moron”
Throughout the movie he discovers that she’s charming, charismatic, and has a strong way with words (those take intelligence), but he knows the world only sees her as a dumb blonde.
Besides, she recalls Mel Gibson correctly, and he didn’t say that. It was that Polonius guy.
I always felt that he was able to relax and be himself around her, which he doesn't seem to do with anyone else, she makes him feel safe, valued and respected.
I’m baffled that the two hosts do not see one reason Josh would like her beyond that she’s hot. Absolutely baffled.
Now, please do 5 more: Notting Hill, Runaway Bride (because we need a Gere/Roberts rematch), Blast From the Past, Green Card & 10 Things I Hate About You.
Agreed. Yes please more of this
I'd also like a series of dying gasp of rom com films. How to Lose a Guy, The Proposal, 27 Dresses, Kate and Leopold, Someone Like You.
I LOVE GREEN CARD SO MUCHHH
Oh, yeah. I'd love to see their take on Kate and Leopold. I love that film!
Runaway Bride is one of my favorites, I hope they do it eventually. These are all great holy cow
YESSS more rant please from Alan! I'm so here for it!! 😂❤❤❤
This is an adorable video. Love hearing two guys break down the rom com genre with taste and humor! You picked two of my favorites as your top two. But really, it’s refreshing to talk about what these movies get wrong and right about healthy relationships. And your unabashed crushes on Bill Pullman and Paul Rudd are so cute and totally on point.
I like that in Pretty Woman the fight is more realistic. He’s not the most up-standing, respectful guy treating her perfectly all the time, he is the type of guy who would hire a prostitute. And she shouldn’t stay with a guy who treats her like that, but he may be the first guy she’s been with who attempted an apology and admitted he was wrong, so she thinks that’s pretty respectful. They do truly care about each other, flaws and all, and I think he does learn to do better.
Agree. And in real life, do men always or even often apologize so well? Most don't. This is far from the bottom relationship for me.
@@hcf4kd1992it's certainly one of the better apologies in film!
“There’s a difference between fundamentally changing who you are, and growing into a version of you that was always in there”
👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Jonno hitting the nail right on the head once again. Thank you, that was perfect and so full of clarity.
Honestlyyyy this guys just drop one liners that are golden
david coming through with top tier editing, i laughed my ass off through alan’s ranting (could not agree more btw) ✨ thanks folks, love this channel
I just fell in love with both of you. Alan for the Drew Barrymore/Never Been Kissed meltdown. And Jonathan for fixing his mistake there at the end. Well done, guys!
Whoever edits your videos deserves a raise from this video alone cause the whole Never Been Kissed segment was outstanding, from the cancelled gag to the entire V For Vendetta bit it is hilarious and that is all done in the edit
edit: editors name is David Sant, fantastic job here
David is a hilarious human being. If you haven't watched the video where he guest stars, you definitely should!
Oh yeah, I know him, he's the guy who did that shot for shot remake of Psycho
Alan violently ranting was the best part
And then Jono : happy valentine’s day 🥰
😂😂😂😂favourite episode. It hurt to see you critique some favourites but it was very entertaining!
Great video, guys! I'd love to see you do the same type of analysis with some older films - for example, The Courtship of Eddie's Father (w/Glenn Ford) and some other 1950s-60s films or even a few videos covering this topic as related to movies of the 1940s to Tootsie, Murphy's Romance, and other films of the1980s. It could be interesting to compare those romcom scripts/storylines to those in later years. Again, thanks for a fun & intelligent discussion!
I came for the therapy, I stayed for Alan's rant. It was beautiful.
Jono and Alan: It’s Valentines!
Me: Frantically checking the date even though I know it’s still the 13th in the UK
Me too! And then realizing that in the USA it's earlier and not later than in EU hahah :3
Same
They needed pancakes. It's Shrove Tuesday
nope its the 13th in the USA too so I guess they uploaded it early
@@wenonadawn3974Valentine’s day is on the 14th in the states & this showed up on my feed on the 13th.
Maybe they uploaded early as a friendly reminder to people
I am laughing out loud at your dialogue with this one! Thanks for the joy!
Would love to see a part 2!
I think Meg Ryan’s “nice to meet you” in the elevator implies that they don’t run off into the sunset and instead choose to start seeing each other like any other newly found relationship. That’s actually one of my favorite things about sleepless in Seattle - it would’ve been easy to do some big romantic kiss like every other movie. Instead they replaced it with smiles and awkward staring and a sweet “nice to meet you” to tie it off. Perfect ending and dare I say pretty realistic if we get past all the other coincidences earlier in the movie.
Now dissect French kiss! It’s my favorite Meg Ryan movie and one of the best movies for a love that grows naturally over the course of the film to where when they finally get together, it makes perfect sense. It’s one of those movies that still gives me butterflies and the acting is unbelievable.
Yes, I though that too. It seemed like he was asking her to go somewhere so they could start getting to know each other, and in the process they both felt the spark when their hands touched. We the audience know that it will all work out because we know how compatible they are (and we're supposed to see them as meant to be) but the characters aren't declaring lifelong love yet. Also it's never clear if she's "leaving her life behind" like the speaker in this video implied, it's left unanswered exactly how they work the distance out - but we are just supposed to have faith they will, because we know they are fated to be together.
wait what? there's a Meg Ryan moview i havent seen yet?! (goes to Google) 😂
I’ll check it out
yall are majorly missing the point, yes its great that the ending isnt framed like theyre instantly in love and dating. but the problem is the woman STALKED HIM. If this was about a man who hears a womans voice and stalks her all the way to her town and the movie implies thats normal and okay and healthy and theyre GOING to end up together, i would really hope at least then you would realize how absolutely bonkers and scary that is. Stalking is not a healthy start to a relationship, people that resort to stalking usually dont see their target as an equal human being that they want a healthy strong relationship with, but rather an object to admire and to own. THAT IS NOT OKAY. A WOMAN STALKING A MAN IS NOT ROMANTIC.
Just rewatched French Kiss over the weekend.
Thank you Jonathan for still trying to give us advice while Alan is absolutely heated 😂😂😂 you guys make a good team 🤣
We really do 😂😂
@@CinemaTherapyShow You are correct good sirs
Omg PLEASE do more of these rom com reviews!!
We're already working on a 2000s one!
I loved the editing of Alan's extended scorched earth rant!
Thank you for the laughs Alan! Your rant over Never Been Kissed and the *editing* was SPECTACULAR. Hardest I've laughed in a long time. Mad props. :)
David (editor) made a funny moment way, way more funny! Glad you enjoyed it!
I am 100% here for Alan's rant on Drew Barrymore and follow up rant on Never Been Kissed
He is right about Drew Barrymore. She is not a great actress, but she has charisma in spades.
I was about to get upset. I grew up watching her. Then he mentioned the writers strike and I remembered “oh yeah, she crossed the picket line. Okay Alan, go off.”
@@Leonnie13 what are you talking about? She is nailed some really good roles.
Please, do more videos like this!! So good!
These videos are amazing! I always learn something new about life watching these!
Please do "A man called Otto" some time! It is more to it than you might think 🤩
While you were sleeping is one of my favorite movies. I think their relationship has the best potential for working (despite the proposal at the end) bc they learned to really see each other and the dreams of the other and encouraged the furniture making and Italy passport stamp even when it didn’t seem either would gain or benefit from the other’s desires. They were already supportive of each other when it appeared they were to be in-laws. And she came clean about her lies before any true relationship could start and when she told the truth, she didn’t expect anything from him, asked for no second chance and took responsibility for deceiving everyone. Was the whole movie a bit silly far fetched? Yes, but in a delightful way. Hands down, my fav rom-com. I adore Bullock’s and Pullman’s chemistry, and agree supporting cast is… chef’s kiss!
I agree about it being a healthier relationship (by rom-com standards). It is fun watching them get to know each other is such a normal and sweet way. And like you said, they have real, substantial conversations, which doesn't often happen in this genre. The best part about that movie is still the crazy grandma and her one liners. "I like mass better in Latin. It's nicer when you don't know what they're saying."
@@wanderer7956 Also helped that the grandma is one of the Hollywood legends, and the female lead in one of my favorite films ever, The Court Jester.
@@anarionelendili8961 The vessel with the pestle has the brew that is true… 😉👑
@@wanderer7956 I adore the grandma and ALL the other family members! Their dinner conversation was a delight! And let us not forget the leaning… lol
One of my favourite movies but I do find myself yelling at her to tell Jack, she has so many opportunities right at the start!
Richard Gere is so good at White Knighting that he later got cast as Sir Lancelot 😁
Ironically, Sir Lancelot wound up sleeping with a married woman. Who's husband, by the way, he had sworn loyalty to. He was lousy by modern AND medieval standards.
@@18Hongo Also I think I recall that Lancelot was a later addition to the Arthur stories, tossed in by French influences of courtly romance at the time.
Friggin’ fanfic.
@@TrueYellowDart Thats the fun part of the Arthurian mythos, its like 90% fan fic. The original stuff is basically just Arthur, Bedivere and Sir Kay.
@@18Hongo and yet he's depicted as the most loyal and noble of all the knights.
@19Rena96 Largely because medieval readers really buzzed off a tragedy. Watching Lancelot fall from grace was probably very popular with 15th century audiences.
THANK YOU for giving a shout out to "Joe vs the Volcano!" It's a wonderful movie & I would love to see the two of you discuss it (maybe in your Psychology of a Hero series) at some point.
Joe vs the Volcano is thr best. Wish we could stream it.
😂 the editing on the rant 👄
Sleepless in Seattle always creeped me out, I always imagine it as a prequel to a true crime documentary
Yeah! Already at the time I thought Meg Ryan in it is the scariest female character right after Glenn Close in Fatal Attraction, and Sharon Stone in Basic Instict.
I remember everyone telling me how amazing sleepless in Seattle was and I was excited to watch it then was horrified that people I liked and respected thought the movie was romantic. I found it super creepy.
@@91splamyit's like when women were all crazy for the main character of YOU and wanted to find someone like him because he "was romantic". WTF
@@doraga6390 yes! It’s disturbing huh!
@JakeKilka I was lliterally thinking that it has the potential to turn into a Fatal Attraction type scenario...
“ They just gotta keep their hands north of the equator for the next couple years.”
Jono, that was an excellently eloquent line.
Allan's rant on NBK! Props to editing (always), Jono's reactions, Allan's brain!? That needs to be a tiktok or capcut template. Also, why I love y'all and this channel. Thanks for always helping us grow. 😊
Love these genre deconstruction videos! For a future video might be fun to show some romcoms that have a unique play on tropes (or even just an absence of standard ones) such as "The Valet" (2019), "Plan B" (2009), and "Ek Ladki Ko Dekha Toh Aisa Laga" (2019)
the way I was so invested in Alan’s Never Been Kissed rant. I was on the edge of me seat, that was so flawlessly edited
I am a teacher, AND i had a teacher have a thing for me when I was in high school. His rant was balm for my soul.
I want cinema therapy to start a Dundee's kind of award ceremony for their staff. because that editor deserves an award.
Nah I love that movie. And I take issue with soooo many pedo issues in Hollywood.
@@melissabrown2156nooo! That’s so sad. :(
The spark is a moment, real love is safety. Keep saying this, we all need to hear it
I never expected Alan would go so hard like that. I'm dying over here!
Alan you made me laugh so hard! Thank you editors for the way you did that!
I watch While You Were Sleeping MULTIPLE times a yr and even more during Christmas Time. It's so wholesome and warms my heart. "I don't drink anymore....I don't drink any LESS either" Elsie was the frikkin best.😂
Best romcom ever
The whole family dialogues were the best! "I didn't say he was Spanish, I only said he was tall!" - "Those mashed potatoes are so great!"
@@DoloresLehmannunmatched!!!
I recently introduced my children to it, and realised how lovely it was to be able to watch it with them because it is wholesome.
This is the first time ever that someone shares this experience of this movie with me. Thank yooouu, its the best romcom
i cannot express how much i love Alan for his rant rn, best episode of cinema therapy ive ever seen solely for the fact that i relate SO much to Alan here, i am VERY passionate about critiquing film and i get exactly this heated over problematic and shoddy writing/marketing/film making and Alan is extremely right the entire time go off king
alan's movie experience always keeping it real and we love him for that
Watching you two TEAR APART these romcoms is AMAZING 😂😂😂😂😂