Friday Fun: Novation Summit Synth Jam
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 14 ต.ค. 2024
- The Novation Summit Bi-Timbral Poly Synth arrived for review today and after firing it up we figured it was a good candidate for the Friday Fun - with a dual engine synth based on the Oxford Oscillators (made in FPGA) essentially its like a couple of peaks with a keyboard (there is more obvs).
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Nick is such the artist that it is apparent how he feels about things. And whoa am I glad.
Less is more - beautifully shown here by Nick... This was one of the most expensive synth videos for me to watch, as it eventually made me press the "order" button after having the Summit in my shopping cart for a few days already. Very mean and sneaky of you, Nick :o) All the best, love and light to you from Thailand
Ill bd pressing order button, did you get it 😉
1) keybed quality: feeling, dynamics, velocity, noises, clickings-tickings, reaction on hard pressure
2) midi routing complexity and external gear manipulation using summit as a master keyboard: split keyboard and assign different midi channels on each of part for output , while listening other midi channels on each of two layers from output.
3) fm-stability for any routing (except self-looping)
4) different in sound design in comparison with peak. dual filter separation modulation examples please ;)
separate resonance control on dual filter?
separate audio range mod from osc3 on each part of dual filter?
separation is a additive unipolar addition to cutoff frequency, or additive and subtractive on both part of filter from the cutoff?
possibility of changing dual-filter combinations (routing) as a modulation destination in mod matrix?
new wavetables? new destinations in mod matrix? new settings? aftertouch feelings, aftertouch polyphony
Lovely ambient jam there, Nick! I have to say yet again, Hybrids are a just blowing my mind right now - so good, so lush when well executed (as we've been demonstrated here).
This is the first video where I really am deeply impressed by the sound of this synth. Both patches are great!
Daniel Fisher made a great video
I think one of the most over looked, and least used controls on the Summit is the unispread function. 3,4, and 8 voice voice selection, and go play with the unispread option. Great way to make this beast even fatter or add a different timbre that might surprise you
The Peak is my favorite modern polysynth. Despite the duplication, I really want the Summit. It's such an amazing synth.
It is. Summit has kinda 'darkish' edge. I've compared it at home with Deepmind, Kyra, Hydra and the decision was quite simple...Deepmind is cheap but lacks waveforms and a 3rd OSC. Kyra has a zillion OSC's and possibilities, but sounds very digital and 'sterile'. And Hydra ? Good sound but only 8-voice...Aarrgh. So I hope you bought the Summit. I own a Peak and made some really extraordinary sounds with it that go from very digital to very analog... Now I'm waiting for my X-mass gift from my wife... A Summit on top !!! Hell yeah.
Its pretty much twin peaks.
Well done! I have a Peak, and adore it. I wish I could get this, but...food and shelter.
I would buy this album.
Sounds so good, Nick! Please make a whole album of stuff like this... Love it! Cheers
He recently released a volume 1 of Fun Friday jams on bandcamp soniclab.bandcamp.com/album/fridays-vol-1 :)
Excellent musical idea for the presentation, as usual.
That reverb is divine.
That thing's pretty sick...i have a mininova and love it, Novation can do some amazing things.
Tony Hill same, the mininova is super fun. So I can imagine this synth
Oh man, your patch on layer B just takes me places. I love the harmonic effect blending into the long reverb tail. It is pure joy to my Ears!
i realize Im kinda randomly asking but does anybody know of a good place to watch newly released tv shows online ?
@Khalil Diego Flixportal xD
@Darian Judah Thank you, I went there and it seems to work :) Appreciate it!
@Khalil Diego No problem =)
Now that analog has run its coarse, again, maybe we can all appreciate the digital/analog synths and the expansive sound pallet of using digital or analog or, both. Is the analog snobbery over yet :) ? Lets have more of both analog and digital dancing together to create truly new sounds from one synth.
such beautiful sounds....you just made my decision clear to buy this synth...thanks a lot and keep up the good work!
Same, mine came yesterday and I love it. Really intuitive to use and sounds gorgeous. Did you get one?
@@vaiman7777 yes i did!! Congrats mate:) im very happy with it, made lots of pads an funk sounds already...check out the wavetables they are so nice to work with! Greetz from swiss
@@erz5196 Awesome! Me too, I'm just starting my journey but I'm loving every minute of it. What a synth! Have a great day weekend mate :)
@@vaiman7777 thx man you too! :)
Simply beautiful, Nick. Thx 4 sharing
It's a shame they didn't put sample RAM in this thing for custom oscillators and wavetables, because as far as I can tell it's basically a perfect hybrid modulation-monster otherwise. Sounds great for what seems like relatively basic patches, too.
Great harmonies, Nick. I like the Reverbtail on the upper sound. The quality is really dense and becomes not metallic in the end of the decay. And... the cool feature with the red and blue color of the pitchbend and the modwheel, when switching between upper and lower. This is very handy.
I've been singing the praises of FPGA for a while, this sort of proves it. Reminds me of a sore throat that's been eased by a heavy dose of Benylin
I still think the UDO Super 6 sounds better though.
It does sound good, will need to try
Loving that hold/freeze feature. What other, more modest synths has got this? Makes it look
great for just enjoy playing. I guess Nick normally use the Ventris reverb for Friday Fun freeze 😎
The Peak is one of my absolute favorite synths. This just sounds great. Eventually this 💾will be in our drive. ❤️
It simply is the best synth made since the Acces Virus A, B, C...
nice pad , very Kraftwerk. The effects sound excellent. Looks like a lot of fun. Nick is a great programmer and will inevitably get a great sound but he seems very excited by what you can do with this. Looking forward to the review but based on this, I'd like to give it a try.
OK - that's the first Summit video that made me want one... Damn you Nick! :-p
I don't want one. So many of the new synths, there is just something missing. It is like it is just slightly... disposable.
Legit honest question: did Nick ever consider doing a "masterclass" type thing in synthesizers?
Ooh. This would be great. I loved the Zimmer and Deadmau5 master classes. Nick on synth programming would be pretty cool.
Yes please! I could help out on the courseware/learning design side of things. Hit me up 😊
This is great. Definitely one of the best synths to come out for 2019.
Indeed!!!
@@rodrigolaporte274 Thank you. I'm a Man City fan by the way so your name rings a bell. Defensive midfielder and centre back (Rodri of Spain and Laporte of France, both of Man City)
After watching this,I ‘m gonna have to buy this.Best vid
I’ve got mySummit money box all set
Quick question? That arpeggio? Not quite following how you did that? Lovely! Is it fwd/reversing or a sequence or a stock arp setting maybe?
Looks awesome. I have a Peak, and that's enough for me. I can carry it on the bus to the pub for my own Friday fun. This would be too big for me, but is obviously more for a studio or live set. Yes, Friday is the best day for fun, and looks to me as if you're having far too much fun with this :)
You gelled with it very quickly Nick.
Great vibes.
What do you think of the Sound compared to say a Prophet Rev 2 or Prophet X (just the syhtn engine) ... seems to sound a little bit with more Low End Bassy / Girth ? The Prophets seem maybe a little Brighter ?
I would not swap with a PX
Can you please give us a review of the keybed? I know it's subjective, but some aren't able to try it in a store. I want to know how shallow it feels, how sturdy, material feel, the velocity and aftertouch response etc. You get the idea. Maybe use the Sequential REV2 as a reference, because it uses a keybed that is widely available in many synths.
Robbinsffxi I think it’s fatar
@@uhldev It's not. It's a custom keybed. If it was fatar, Novation would list it on the spec sheet.
@@uhldev
"Our best keyboard ever
Five-octave, semi-weighted, velocity-sensitive keyboard with aftertouch - the same premium-quality keybed as introduced with our SL MkIII controller keyboard."
"Keys for the player
The SL MkIII boasts our finest, most playable and expressive synth-style semi-weighted keybed, with a sprung action and our highest scan rate, all tuned to the needs of the experienced player. It’s got aftertouch too, assignable to anything."
@@uhldev From the keyboardkraze.com review: "The key-bed on the Novation Summit is a custom-built bed that synth lovers will definitely dig. You will find this same key-bed on the SL MK III controller that Novation has. The thought here for Novation was, “if it’s not broke, don’t fix it.”"
Robbinsffxi good question! i am worried about keybed too
Awesome. For me, it's a question of buying the Summit or Prologue 16. I tried the Rev 2 and didn't care for it. I have spent a lot of time with the Prologue 16 and love it. With the new lower price, the custom osc, full analog and tuning problem fixed, I was just about SOLD on it..........until I saw the Summit. Any thoughts comparing the 2?
Did you ever sort this out for yourself? I’m facing the same question here in 2022!
@@KipCount Prologue 16.
@@TheChaziv62 cool, thanks. For what it's worth , I recently tried the Rev2 and I was surprised at how much I did not like it. Just felt alien to me and didn't like it's core character at all.
@@KipCount I had you're reaction to it when I test drove it. Prologue....from the second I plugged it in, I connected with it.
Bravo, sounds great and I just love the fish shirt.
Nice to hear someone getting great sounds out of this thing. I was more impressed by the specs than the early demos.
What a Beautiful Performance
Thank GOD I have this wonderful synth!!!
Envious!
Love your music Nick! Nail it every time for me.
Thank you for sharing your JOY, Nick. 👍😎🇨🇦
Nice jam, Nick! Sounds good. Nice use of multi-timbral split.
Yet, my 15 year old Novation KS-4 is 4-part multi-timbral/split/arp... Summit4 soon???
Yes, at double the price ! :-)
It's the new Depeche Mode song.
Good Lord...you were serious about the fishing thing...
Excellent video and jam, apart from describing it as "virtual analogue". It's not VA, it and the Peak, are mostly-analogue hybrids; NCO oscillators (digital, but allegedly indistinguishable from analogue) into a fully analogue signal path.
VA would be things like Gaia, King Korg, Sledge, Skulpt, MiniNova, etc, with no analogue parts...
I could listen to a whole album like this. Unless Nick makes one, which artist would get into this ballpark?
I'm sold on this
The first couple of minutes reminded me of Lighthouse by Hawkwind/Tim Blake
Cheers Nick, rather lovely that, gently uplifting, .........off to the shed....... :)
sounds great as always nice to run into the weekend with a bit of inspiration
Very similar in features and sound to the yamaha an1x but it has more knobs and seems to be a more friendly and better thought out user interface
Yes, but sound is much better on Yamaha.
Tempting as it is with all the knobs, i would take a second an1x over this just because the yamaha synth sounds so good. Infact its about time yamaha revamped and re-released the an1x.
@@silverlight2004db I agree :)
Its a great sounding synth but for the filters. These 'musical' analogue filters beat the steppy digital filters of the AN1x to my ears by quite a lot. A heck of a lot actually.
I loved my an1x... the plastic, though.
Looks like a real players synth, lots of knobs and a keybed.
Nick, you are a great improvisor, oh and the synth was ok as well!
Looking forward to the review Nick 👍🏻
Bought a Peak a few weeks ago and love it. No regrets, although I would love this but just don’t have the room or the funds!
Nice ... Looking forward to a review.
Very beautiful Nick! And loving the fishy shirt😉🐟
Well spotted :)
Maybe I don;t need to save up for an old v-synth anymore - this likely covers it and then some...
thanks nick
Gorgeous.
Sweet! I hit the 1000th like! Go Nick!
nick the best
Not sure how much further it's possible to take a digital synth as we know them to be, some might say the summit?
That is super nice.
Sounds super great
Lovely piece
Sounds great
LOVE the Summit!!!
I'm hoping to have one by year end!
Been listening to and Loving Dave Spiers' demos of his patches. They're marvelous!
Can't wait to hear what you have to say in your review, Nick.
Between the Peak's 1.2 firmware update and the hardware mods in the Summit, Novation appear to have addressed all of the concerns you noted in your original 2-part Peak review!
Peace.
Sounds great . It’s just that Novation became this world of layer after layer of shift command stuff I eventually gave up on them .is that the case here? The UDO is my next poly synth. But you are always a great source of information so.... Peace Christo 👽🎶🐕🛸☮️😉
No shift functions on the Peak/Summit. The screen is big enough, shows three parameters at a time - you select a section from the buttons above it, and left/right to the page you want (e.g. select Mod and page right 5 times to get to mod matrix slot 5), so it's not too deep, like some labyrinthian synths of the 90s and early 2000s. But there's plenty there.
Also entirely possible to do a whole patch without using any menus, and many of the modulation sources on the panel even multiplex several modulation sources, like wave shape, you can set amounts for LFO1, EG2, and a Manual amount, simultaneously, just with the front panel controls.
Summit has more controls than the Peak, though they both have 99% the same synth voice and FX parameters, it just puts a bit more on the panel. Like Peak has LFO3/4 in the menu, whereas it has a panel section for that on the Summit. Biggest difference is that Summit has a split pole filter mode and FM on the front panel (and of course the bitimbrality).
Bradley Gray thank you! Peace Christo 👽🎶🐕🛸☮️
Beautiful stuff Nick!
I do have a Peak and love it and this jam is as great as your shirt
ok the layer option is great for live stuff
You should release this as a track. I’d love to own this.
I like Roland V-Synth GT controls: double D-beam & time trip pad. No other synths has this!
This sounds awesome.
Gotta T-Dream vibe going on! It is a nice synth, too.
very nice! beautiful.
the shirt has me ready for the weekend my friend
Fish on!
He has started a shirt competition with Ujiie. :D
Speak up, Nick. We can’t hear you over your shirt
He just started a fishing channel here th-cam.com/channels/5MSWcflBIIsY2Jh6PeXM-g.html :)
@@Wagoo excellent! Turns out I love synths & fishing also.
such a great shirt choice
Fabulous sounding a instant modern classic.
Great melodies Nick, I always enjoy hearing you play these instruments.
In your reviews i like to hear you discuss the envelopes, that would be my request.
Sounds gorgeous to my ears, and looks like a serious instrument. Novation have really stepped up the game. Cheers Nick
so good dude
Man... The Peak/Summit's reverb is just awesome. Nice Synth jam Nick!
The summit has finally begun shipping! Http://www.MajorOSC.com there's a killer patch bank available for the summit. Def worth checking out. Calc from novation picked it up too! He's been demoing it on the summit now for several months. Cheers! :)
My Peak is one my favorite synths ever and I don't have the space, but sheesh you make this sound good.
Do you know if the patches of the peak are transferable to the summit?
Remco Hoonte yes (peak->summit), but not always otherwise (summit->peak)
Sounds like EVE's "Let Me Blow Ya Mind".
like from outer galaxis!
saving best synth so far 2019
Love the shirt, Nick!
great jam session
can anyone help me, please? The Summit, Korg Prologue, or the Roland System 8? Any opinions?
Bit late now, I've had all 3 of those and many others like the Polybrute, rev 2, etc....Summit offers a much broader sonic palet, without doubt the very best Effects on any hardware synthesizer and one of the best designed for hands on knob control you can get.
An absolute killer synth, I'm not surprised the prices of new ones have gone up a lot over it's time.
I've sold many synthesizers over the decades, but this is the only one I've ever regretted...I'm actually looking for another now, I'll gladly trade the Polybrute for one.
Nice analog sound.
Is this the keyboard version of "PEAK"?
Friday Fish.
Also i have a question about fm synthesis. I had a problem with my novation peak. Can you stable fm osc1->osc2->osc3 on the same frequency or two more complex (eg zing) wavetable on the same frequency?
Was it fixed at the summit?
1) If you modulate a wavetable by wavetable most often (for almost all harmonically rich wave tables, eg zing->zing), the frequencies of wave tables fail: you need to increase the carrier frequency through fine tuning by + 25 for 63 value FM oscA>oscB (if maximum fm amount) (fine tune +25 for 63 fm amount proportionally)
2) If you create a 3-operator fm patch, for example, osc1-> osc2-> osc3, the frequency osc1 must be greater than osc2 by at least a fifth, otherwise an unpredictable effect begins (e.g., inharmonic if they are on the same frequency)
Is it an factory multi you play ?
Awesomesauce
When are you planning on doing a proper review?
There it is: th-cam.com/video/5YHZXq1c6tk/w-d-xo.html
Summit or Hydra? Which would you get?
Summit!
waaaaww. only heard the intro so far but that was fantastic.