It makes sense, no magic works in the TVA. Even the infinity stones were just useless paperweights there. So of course humans are the perfect fit to run the place.
@@TheFrickinFrenchFry thanous is like 8ft tall and beat hulk with his bare hands , even without the stones he's be a problem for a bunch of humans that's the OPs point this plave doesn't make sense cause it not only blocks magic and and tech but biological attributes as well
It’s not just magic, no powers work in the TVA. Any superhuman abilities whether they’re biological or from technology don’t work in the TVA. The Infinity Stones are not magic, they’re fundamental powers of the universe, and they are dampened. So anything else being able to be shut down by the TVAs technology makes sense.
They didn’t even bother making sure his hair matches the end of Avengers/The scene from Endgame. He goes through the portal and comes out with shorter curlier hair.
Loki should a dark show sprinkled with comedy, not the other way around. In the myth, he can be an awesome Allie even though he was shat on but he can be a threatening Foe/villain
This is more like Disney's Tom Hiddleston Adventures Because we are only here for Tom where as Loki is just a puppet for actor to play as and the writers can use while ignoring consistency
You'd think that Loki, right after his defeat at the hands of the Avengers, would want to do everything in his power to avoid being imprisoned yet again, along with avoiding his death. So why the fuck would he even go near the TVA members and not just throw knives at their very vulnerable faces?
I also hate how MCU's power level are pure shit or how miserable their magic system is. Loki is a Ice giant, like Asgardians they have "inner sources" for magic, meaning Loki (without restrains, blocking his magic) shoud spam his OP abilities and being OP, yet somehow he's a 3rd rate idiot, who get clapped by everyone. Female Loki was spamming "Enchant" over and over again, why our Loki couldn't do the same (for idiots, who like Loki, I mean "Spamming HIS abilities, not Enchantment itself")
Michael Waldron, the series showrunner (and also the hack writer of "Multiverse of Madness") clearly had no interest in acknowledging past MCU events. Like many current screenwriters in charge of long-existing IPs these days, he and the episode writers decided to use and manipulate an already established character to tell the stories THEY wanted, character continuity be damned.
His connection with Sylvie instantly, actually makes sense considering how narcissistic Loki is that he literally falls in love with himself, like he said in the first episode, he only trusts himself.
I think that the Loki show could've really worked as an indie, sci-fi drama. But as a Marvel show with Loki as the main character, it flops, hard. Sometimes I want to like it, but I can't :(
I'm sorry but if Loki isn't Loki in Loki, then why Loki being low-key Loki meet Loki and fall in love with Loki in Loki thanks to Loki low-key killing TVA's agent to get revenge on Loki not being the Loki we know ? In my opinion, Loki being Loki is not about Loki being Loki, it's about Loki becoming Loki developping into the Loki he becomes during Loki, thanks to a therapeuthic session of Loki watching a future Loki getting Loki's mom killed and becoming buddy-buddy with Loki's brother anyway. Furthermore, the fact that Loki end up betraying Loki is low-key the best thing about Loki : Loki doesn't trust Loki, no matter what Loki we're talking about, no matter if Loki understands Loki better and becomes a better Loki, Loki still can't trust Loki, because Loki is a trickster and can't be trusted. Anyway, all that to say : Loki.
To be fair. Sofie IS Loki, so he falls in love with a variant of himself. It would have been clever if they didn’t feel the need to spoon feed the point in the show itself.
Are we gonna pretend that Loki's turn into a punching bag didn't start with Ragnajoke? The Dark World was a dull waste of time, but one thing it did that was interesting was the reveal of Loki siting on the throne and impersonating Odin. One would think that such reveal would be a good setup for a third Thor movie, where Loki is yet again the main villain. Especially considering which story the movie was (in the loosest terms) adapting, in which both in the comics and the myths Loki seeks revenge and wants to bring on the end of the world. And what we got instead was: the movie glossed over Loki's grand scheme with Odin in two seconds and from that point on made him a third wheel in the so-called ''story''. Point is, if it wasn't for that piece of sh1t movie, we would not have this nonsensical idea of Loki as some funny anti-hero.
I noticed most of those issues but I don't mind. I remember thinking, "this is great, but he stops being Loki". The reason I like it is because I believe in reincarnation and I think this is an example of the great journey we all hope to complete one day. The greatest journey of all.
The guy who wrote this show is apparently the same genius who wrote “Multiverse of Madness”, so we’re working with a hefty IQ here, huh? The word on the block is that he also didn’t watch avengers or Thor prior to making this show, because he made some jokes about Loki having super strength on Twitter while watching it. Smooth
As soon as I saw those first scenes in the show with him landing in Mongolia I was shocked he didn't send himself to Norway or even Sweden, Denmark, or Iceland.
For all the D+ show, this one confuses me the most BECAUSE IT'S CALLED MARVEL'S LOKI, but this guy DOES NOT look like loki, DOES NOT ACT like Loki, DOESN'T HAVE the powers of looki, DOESN'T TALK NOR HAS ANY RESEAMBLENCE with Loki, this is just TOM HIDDLESTON: The Series
I absolutely hated this show, and a huge part of that was its mischaracterization of Loki. It was so baffling and it infuriated me as a fan of his character. This video is a masterpiece.
Loki in Loki always struck me as a confused then overpowered then unsettled then desperate then humbled then unsure character during the show. He didn’t firmly get his bearings until he saw his variants fighting like spoiled children. Then he changed, not in the first episode
tbh havent finished it but i hope you tackle how all the building blocks to deconstruct a transform a character into another version of himself are there in the Loki series and his setting since it literally shows him his irrelevance in the multiverse infinite times
Well this is interesting. I remember this being the same exact thing that was also done to thor where he was easily over powered by those weaker himself. Both loki and thor got mercilessly mocked.
he literally saw someone being desintigrated by those office worker, so it's smart when he cooperate for a moment. Also, TVA have these gadgets that made him rewind like sh*t.
The main piece of equipment that everyone has with current Marvel (including the writers) is the idiot ball. With this piece of gear, every characters action's make sense. Need Loki to forget about his powers, physiology, psychology, etc, just slap that idiot ball in his hands and watch him be the complete dunce you need him to be.
Oh boy, some more quality reviews of the horrifying marvel Disney plus shows. Character assassination of once beloved characters seemed to be a running theme. If you're gonna do more, I vote for The Falcon and the Winter Soldier next. It's incredible how they managed to make a character like John Walker while being blatantly hostile to him as writers, all to prop up a now monstrous Sam and Bucky.
I still dont understand why loki is a varient at all. granted i havent watched the show so i may be missing something but his escape was directly caused by the avengers so how is he deviating from the sacred timeline? Honestly endgames timetravel rules are just kinda fucked and loki makes this more complicated
Endgame time travel made sense. Changes make new timelines. New timelines without infinity stones just die to Thanos (and other villians) returning the stones still means seperate timelines, but close enough to the point where everything will work out. Loki the series messes this up by saying that any change to the timeline has drastic effects, except the endgame one for no reason, because new timelines create the possibility of creating new Kangs. Endgame time travel would still result in more Kangs so the show is what makes no sense, not Endgame
This show lost me almost in ep.1 I keep watching expecting some twist and Loki doing something amazing........................................I still waiting for that and we already got a season 2 announcement, not falling for that again, F this show.....who ever this imposter is, he is NO LOKI.
A great, concise video. I've been working on videos about the same thing but they're... a little less concise. 😅 Love the appreciation for Thor and Avengers, the show does both those movies an extreme disservice in every way, and comparing scenes from them to scenes from Loki shows just how much they dropped the ball
I’m sorry. But if a Character going through a CHARACTER SHIFT (Or CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT) is considered a Bad thing these days. The. We as People, as the audience really don’t understand how storytelling works. The fact that this review is demonizing a Great show with an even better season 2, is freaking moronic.
Thank you for reminding me that this awful series exists. But now I wonder. If Loki got TVA-ed because he took the stone he wasn´t supposed to take then how did endgame happen? They erased that timeline so it can happen the proper way right? Because there´s no way endgame could have happened the way it did if TVA exists.
Your ecperiences change you I can Ser hoe people say this is inconsistent seems like to me they wanted Loki back but he's dead so they're like ok we can pluck him from this time give him a run down of what has happened and during that run down he goes on journey like other Loki did he changed over time but that's more earned this seemed rushed nut I get it they gonna get on with it take too long for that lol this is more like Loki if it turned out he didn't die and had fajed his death like he did before lol. Why is it that big DEal if thanks really killed him or not once he gets all stones snap gingers Loki might be gone anyway lol
Loki wasn't supposed to be same. He was no longer under the influence of the Mind Stone, and in the TVA he lost his powers so therefore his personality would shine clearer, we learn he did have goodness inside him. Odin saw it, while no saint himself in Mythology or Marvel, did. Let's just presume his sense of humor came back. But yeah, his complete 180 from watching a few hours of videos was a bit inexplicable.
"They can hardly be considered the same person."?! But they are literally not the same person! Avengers Loki was taken as a prisoner to Asgard and died by Thanos' hand. TVA Loki was taught empathy and found love and is still alive. Obviously a person is shaped by their experiences, and these Lokis clearly led vastly different lives from the moment Toni fumbled the Tesseract.
I don't think you watched the video. Just because Loki escaped with the tesseract it doesn't mean that his core character should automatically change. You're right that TVA Loki would change but at the beginning of the series he should be acting like Avengers or even Thor Loki which he is not.
I personally think that he was the same but we just saw a different side of him that was always there that we hadn't seen before. This was just a goofy care free Loki. Great video though.
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Can you make an analysis video on Obi-Wan Kenobi from the "Obi-Wan Kenobi" series?
He's like some dude going through a divorce in Loki
The TVA just being normal humans never made sense. How the fuck did they stop variants of thanos.
It makes sense, no magic works in the TVA. Even the infinity stones were just useless paperweights there. So of course humans are the perfect fit to run the place.
@@TheFrickinFrenchFry thanous is like 8ft tall and beat hulk with his bare hands , even without the stones he's be a problem for a bunch of humans that's the OPs point this plave doesn't make sense cause it not only blocks magic and and tech but biological attributes as well
Makes less sense now after Deadpool decimated them in his movie's intro. These TVA agent aint no fighter
Technology? Technology that is in the present isnt that great, but everyday humans with greater tech can stop a thanos
It’s not just magic, no powers work in the TVA. Any superhuman abilities whether they’re biological or from technology don’t work in the TVA.
The Infinity Stones are not magic, they’re fundamental powers of the universe, and they are dampened. So anything else being able to be shut down by the TVAs technology makes sense.
They didn’t even bother making sure his hair matches the end of Avengers/The scene from Endgame. He goes through the portal and comes out with shorter curlier hair.
Its like they forgot Loki is the GOD OF MISCHIEF
It’s called character development he was going to change eventually
@@sylkilaufeyson Shut the fuck up, watching a video of a life you _didn't have_ and crying about it isn't character development.
@@sylkilaufeyson he did change then they killed him off
@@spritemon98 I was talking about Loki from the show not the original one
@@sylkilaufeyson he is the original loki
Loki should a dark show sprinkled with comedy, not the other way around.
In the myth, he can be an awesome Allie even though he was shat on but he can be a threatening Foe/villain
Unrelated to Loki, but did anyone else forget how blond Thor was in the first movie? He almost looks like a different person to me.
and his face
They bleached his eye brows too. And eye lashes
This is more like Disney's Tom Hiddleston Adventures
Because we are only here for Tom where as Loki is just a puppet for actor to play as and the writers can use while ignoring consistency
20:45 I absolutely refuse to believe they're in love. Its completely idiotic because there's nothing romantic between them
Loki shouldn't even be a variant because the avengers were incompetent and left the cube for him to grab
You'd think that Loki, right after his defeat at the hands of the Avengers, would want to do everything in his power to avoid being imprisoned yet again, along with avoiding his death. So why the fuck would he even go near the TVA members and not just throw knives at their very vulnerable faces?
You’re completely right except it’s possible his knives would’ve taken away after being detained by the avengers
The knives that he can create from thin air with his magic you mean?
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Exactly! Especially knowing Thor, who WAS STABBED IN THE AVENGERS MOVIE!!!
@@danielramsey6141 He makes knives with magic, they cannot be taken from him.
The actual Loki died in Infinity War; this 'new' Loki is just some off brand knock off
Yep they dropped the ball on Loki one of the best villains in the franchise
I was expecting a time travel adventure with Loki becoming president
@@spritemon98 yesss that’s how they made the trailer look. The DB cooper bit was one of the biggest let downs of my life.
Pretty sure that first started with Ragnajoke. In the comics Loki is the main villain of Ragnarok.
My god,they turned Loki into Kylo ren.
I also hate how MCU's power level are pure shit or how miserable their magic system is.
Loki is a Ice giant, like Asgardians they have "inner sources" for magic, meaning Loki (without restrains, blocking his magic) shoud spam his OP abilities and being OP, yet somehow he's a 3rd rate idiot, who get clapped by everyone.
Female Loki was spamming "Enchant" over and over again, why our Loki couldn't do the same (for idiots, who like Loki, I mean "Spamming HIS abilities, not Enchantment itself")
Michael Waldron, the series showrunner (and also the hack writer of "Multiverse of Madness") clearly had no interest in acknowledging past MCU events. Like many current screenwriters in charge of long-existing IPs these days, he and the episode writers decided to use and manipulate an already established character to tell the stories THEY wanted, character continuity be damned.
His connection with Sylvie instantly, actually makes sense considering how narcissistic Loki is that he literally falls in love with himself, like he said in the first episode, he only trusts himself.
nope.
@siqqybaby12 I didn't mean it in a bad way, just my theory
I think that the Loki show could've really worked as an indie, sci-fi drama. But as a Marvel show with Loki as the main character, it flops, hard. Sometimes I want to like it, but I can't :(
I honestly like the Loki show but I also couldn’t ignore how this Loki acts nothing like he should. Another great video keep it up!
Loki should’ve infiltrated the TVA and burned it to the ground.
I'm sorry but if Loki isn't Loki in Loki, then why Loki being low-key Loki meet Loki and fall in love with Loki in Loki thanks to Loki low-key killing TVA's agent to get revenge on Loki not being the Loki we know ? In my opinion, Loki being Loki is not about Loki being Loki, it's about Loki becoming Loki developping into the Loki he becomes during Loki, thanks to a therapeuthic session of Loki watching a future Loki getting Loki's mom killed and becoming buddy-buddy with Loki's brother anyway. Furthermore, the fact that Loki end up betraying Loki is low-key the best thing about Loki : Loki doesn't trust Loki, no matter what Loki we're talking about, no matter if Loki understands Loki better and becomes a better Loki, Loki still can't trust Loki, because Loki is a trickster and can't be trusted.
Anyway, all that to say : Loki.
THANK YOU :)
To be fair. Sofie IS Loki, so he falls in love with a variant of himself. It would have been clever if they didn’t feel the need to spoon feed the point in the show itself.
I wish Marvel movies were more serious these days
Are we gonna pretend that Loki's turn into a punching bag didn't start with Ragnajoke? The Dark World was a dull waste of time, but one thing it did that was interesting was the reveal of Loki siting on the throne and impersonating Odin. One would think that such reveal would be a good setup for a third Thor movie, where Loki is yet again the main villain. Especially considering which story the movie was (in the loosest terms) adapting, in which both in the comics and the myths Loki seeks revenge and wants to bring on the end of the world. And what we got instead was: the movie glossed over Loki's grand scheme with Odin in two seconds and from that point on made him a third wheel in the so-called ''story''. Point is, if it wasn't for that piece of sh1t movie, we would not have this nonsensical idea of Loki as some funny anti-hero.
I noticed most of those issues but I don't mind. I remember thinking, "this is great, but he stops being Loki". The reason I like it is because I believe in reincarnation and I think this is an example of the great journey we all hope to complete one day. The greatest journey of all.
The guy who wrote this show is apparently the same genius who wrote “Multiverse of Madness”, so we’re working with a hefty IQ here, huh?
The word on the block is that he also didn’t watch avengers or Thor prior to making this show, because he made some jokes about Loki having super strength on Twitter while watching it. Smooth
Loki is all about tricking people and wanting to be in charge.
Marvel missed out on taking Thor and Loki to Sweden, Iceland or Scandinavia
As soon as I saw those first scenes in the show with him landing in Mongolia I was shocked he didn't send himself to Norway or even Sweden, Denmark, or Iceland.
For all the D+ show, this one confuses me the most BECAUSE IT'S CALLED MARVEL'S LOKI, but this guy DOES NOT look like loki, DOES NOT ACT like Loki, DOESN'T HAVE the powers of looki, DOESN'T TALK NOR HAS ANY RESEAMBLENCE with Loki, this is just TOM HIDDLESTON: The Series
I absolutely hated this show, and a huge part of that was its mischaracterization of Loki. It was so baffling and it infuriated me as a fan of his character. This video is a masterpiece.
Aaaand... this is why I didn't even finish season 1 and was sooooo disappointed.
I LOVE YOUR ICON!!! God/Goddess of stories Loki ftw!
This is too well explained and absolutely on the money
This channel is far too good to only have 8k subs.
Ong. Quality analysis
Loki in Loki always struck me as a confused then overpowered then unsettled then desperate then humbled then unsure character during the show. He didn’t firmly get his bearings until he saw his variants fighting like spoiled children. Then he changed, not in the first episode
tbh havent finished it but i hope you tackle how all the building blocks to deconstruct a transform a character into another version of himself are there in the Loki series and his setting since it literally shows him his irrelevance in the multiverse infinite times
🙏😤 I've been waiting for this
Been waiting on your new vid🙏🏾🔥
Well this is interesting. I remember this being the same exact thing that was also done to thor where he was easily over powered by those weaker himself. Both loki and thor got mercilessly mocked.
For the telekinesis bit, he did show some of it in Thor 2 so there’s that
he literally saw someone being desintigrated by those office worker, so it's smart when he cooperate for a moment. Also, TVA have these gadgets that made him rewind like sh*t.
I agree with this video so much
he self reflected and matured.
The main piece of equipment that everyone has with current Marvel (including the writers) is the idiot ball. With this piece of gear, every characters action's make sense. Need Loki to forget about his powers, physiology, psychology, etc, just slap that idiot ball in his hands and watch him be the complete dunce you need him to be.
*E X A C T L Y*
I really liked loki even if it strayed from who loki was. It was really fun and a really cool arc.
Ye i did well by not giving any slight of chance on this show
I already agree with the title😂
I want my bad boy.
love your videos
I like your character analyses!
This is Loki, a good video.
Good one!
#classic
4:09 was gold😂
Oh boy, some more quality reviews of the horrifying marvel Disney plus shows.
Character assassination of once beloved characters seemed to be a running theme.
If you're gonna do more, I vote for The Falcon and the Winter Soldier next.
It's incredible how they managed to make a character like John Walker while being blatantly hostile to him as writers, all to prop up a now monstrous Sam and Bucky.
Good job
I still dont understand why loki is a varient at all. granted i havent watched the show so i may be missing something but his escape was directly caused by the avengers so how is he deviating from the sacred timeline? Honestly endgames timetravel rules are just kinda fucked and loki makes this more complicated
Endgame time travel made sense. Changes make new timelines. New timelines without infinity stones just die to Thanos (and other villians) returning the stones still means seperate timelines, but close enough to the point where everything will work out.
Loki the series messes this up by saying that any change to the timeline has drastic effects, except the endgame one for no reason, because new timelines create the possibility of creating new Kangs. Endgame time travel would still result in more Kangs so the show is what makes no sense, not Endgame
Thank you for that Bugs Bunny. I miss The Looney Tunes.
This show lost me almost in ep.1 I keep watching expecting some twist and Loki doing something amazing........................................I still waiting for that and we already got a season 2 announcement, not falling for that again, F this show.....who ever this imposter is, he is NO LOKI.
Lore of LOKI isn't LOKI in LOKI momentum 100
Why is this the last video?
A great, concise video. I've been working on videos about the same thing but they're... a little less concise. 😅 Love the appreciation for Thor and Avengers, the show does both those movies an extreme disservice in every way, and comparing scenes from them to scenes from Loki shows just how much they dropped the ball
I’m sorry. But if a Character going through a CHARACTER SHIFT (Or CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT) is considered a Bad thing these days. The. We as People, as the audience really don’t understand how storytelling works.
The fact that this review is demonizing a Great show with an even better season 2, is freaking moronic.
@@danielramsey6141
Cute. Offered no refutation, though, especially not to what was said in the video.
Thank you for reminding me that this awful series exists.
But now I wonder. If Loki got TVA-ed because he took the stone he wasn´t supposed to take then how did endgame happen? They erased that timeline so it can happen the proper way right? Because there´s no way endgame could have happened the way it did if TVA exists.
Is it me or does Loki is a lot like trickster in supernatural both fake their deaths so much got lots of magic can do anything almost lol
He is the "fixed" Loki. All toxic masculinity removed, for your pleasure.
Yay..........🤦😒
I hate that term so much as it thinks only men can be toxic
Wonderful🙄
@@Anthonydavis65No it doesn't. It just describes a certain type of toxicity. There can also be toxic femininity or toxic feminism for example.
@@Anthonydavis65It also implies there can be healthy masculinity.
You’re one of my favorite channels to watch are you done with TH-cam?
I'm not done with TH-cam. I'm working on stuff, it's just taking a lot longer than I expected.
Your videos are so good, hope you return soon with a new review 👍
Your ecperiences change you I can Ser hoe people say this is inconsistent seems like to me they wanted Loki back but he's dead so they're like ok we can pluck him from this time give him a run down of what has happened and during that run down he goes on journey like other Loki did he changed over time but that's more earned this seemed rushed nut I get it they gonna get on with it take too long for that lol this is more like Loki if it turned out he didn't die and had fajed his death like he did before lol. Why is it that big DEal if thanks really killed him or not once he gets all stones snap gingers Loki might be gone anyway lol
Loki wasn't supposed to be same. He was no longer under the influence of the Mind Stone, and in the TVA he lost his powers so therefore his personality would shine clearer, we learn he did have goodness inside him. Odin saw it, while no saint himself in Mythology or Marvel, did. Let's just presume his sense of humor came back. But yeah, his complete 180 from watching a few hours of videos was a bit inexplicable.
Exactly my thoughts. It’s not perfect, but the problem isn’t as bad as it’s made out to be by some.
No, sure he can be antihero, they tried that in infinity war, but now he isn’t smart or cunning, we aren’t laughing with him but at him
Great.
"They can hardly be considered the same person."?! But they are literally not the same person!
Avengers Loki was taken as a prisoner to Asgard and died by Thanos' hand. TVA Loki was taught empathy and found love and is still alive. Obviously a person is shaped by their experiences, and these Lokis clearly led vastly different lives from the moment Toni fumbled the Tesseract.
I don't think you watched the video. Just because Loki escaped with the tesseract it doesn't mean that his core character should automatically change. You're right that TVA Loki would change but at the beginning of the series he should be acting like Avengers or even Thor Loki which he is not.
@@anikabeauty547 Keep in mind the mind stone was influencing him in Avengers.
@@melancholyentertainmentand the example in this video is from Thor 1
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More I need more 😈
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loki is a liar who got lied 😅
I personally think that he was the same but we just saw a different side of him that was always there that we hadn't seen before. This was just a goofy care free Loki. Great video though.