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- Hulk returns in She Hulk Episode 1. Does Jennifer Walter's origin properly build off of Bruce Banner's story? Or has Hulk yet again become a victim of terrible writing?
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Lazy writing, horrific character development & too arrogant to treat the audience like we have a 🧠!! The character who'll eventually become a super hero IS 👎PLAYED OUT 👎!! The MCU''S basking in their success believes throwing any script against the wall like 🤎 CRAP 💩 paper & "Those Who Dwell In Darkness "( Die Hard MCU Fans) buys & eats it Up. That's why I'm going to buy The Kang Dynasty 📙& read it before I go watch the MCU version
Never in the history of physics whether it's fictional or not have blood move that rapidly (even gamerated blood) through out the anatomy of any living creature an effect them within seconds of contact. Although writers ✍️ have to squeeze a narrative into a 20 mins showtime, still, writing a lame -half- assed excuse of an origin story is REALLY QUITE PATHETIC 👎👎
They need some kind of backstory lets say that Skaar ship actually beamed those two for Bruce to Hulk out because he was needed in another planet and affected Jen as well why she was able to Hulk out. Easy fix, but writers can't think like that.
read the comics
Feminism
I hate this so much. Jenn in the comics was a fun character, in human form she was shy, lacked self confidence and was easily scared, but also a very loving and compassionate person who always offered a shoulder for Bruce to lean on when he needed it.
Bruce HATED the fact he had to turn Jen into a Hulk to save her but Jen was totally cool with it. Becoming She-Hulk gave her self confidence, made her feel good about her self and brought out the best in her, she outright thanked Bruce for it, and felt guilty she had more control over it then Bruce did. She knew what he was suffering through and felt bad she got it easy.
This Jen is litterally none of those things. She's an arrogant, petty, narcissitic misandrist who only seems to care about herself and her problems. I can't imagine Bruce and her getting along for even a couple of seconds, let alone for her giving enough of a shit about Bruce to help him when needed.
I hate this version of Jen, I hate this show and I hate all the people who made it.
sounds like an infinitely more interesting character right there than this dumb stuff..
God FORBITS the independent woman Jenn needs ANY help from men. Nah thats just sexist that a person needs another person's help
If u say u don’t like this show people freak out
i completely feel where youre coming from. They've completely destroyed alot of who this character is and what she stands for, and it's only the first episode 💀💀💀marvel is really running itself into the ground
@TheBlueKing I can't tell if ur playing or u dead serious rn
20:12 And ironically Bruce Banner saved a woman from being catcalled by violent men in his first movie. He stopped a woman from being sexually harassed even though it drew attention to himself while he was undercover. If any man can empathize with the dangers women are exposed to, it's Bruce Banner. Also in the three episodes of She Hul I've seen so far, She-hulk has done almost nothing for other women.
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Xddd
" Have you ever read She Hulk comic? " - No.
" Have you ever watched The Incredible Hulk movie ? " - No.
" Congratulations... you're hired as a writer for She Hulk "
“Do you know how to make a likable protagonist?”
“ I know how to make a strong character like Captain Marvel.”
“Your hired!”
And adding another ‘strong’ female character go woke go broke
You forgot "Have you ever written a law show/court case or even seen one (1) episode of Law and Order SVU?" To which the answer is also no
@@flowersandcheesecake1710 Easy there incel. That's not the problem. It's just written badly.
I’m an untrained fool who wishes to serve marvel and dc out of love for the characters and stories. To see this disrespect to the characters and the utter dreck that is the phase 4 stories.
It’s more than I can stand from Disney.
I swear I would laugh if I wasn't so depressed right now!
The worst part is that many people on twitter actually agreed that being chased by a country, attemting to suicide and other shit bruce went through is actually easier than being a woman
This reminds me of how disappointed I was that Captain Marvel never had a moment of realization that she was partly responsible for the oppression and/or destruction of a number of alien civilizations in the border of the Kree Emporium. I watch superhero stories to see heroics, responsibility, and self-sacrifice, and it's discouraging how little we see of it in the 'strong female' trope.
these people write these female characters like villains instead of heroes
@@budgiecat9039 there making the masses hate woke stuff more and more my parents are even get fed up with the wokeness and strong female thing now there taking 1 step forward and 1000 steps backward.
@@lights_utopia1130 and whats more frustratign is the turn your brain off brainlets who eat anything the Church of Marvel dish out wil just say you must have a fragile male ego of a toxic alt right, racist sexist bigoted White straight male misogynist (even though the criticism is coming from people of all races, gender and pollitical preference who are recognizxing the carrot on a stick pandering, virtue signaling, hypocrisy and misandry coming out of Disney, a company ironically known for being historically racist)
that's Mary Sue
@@budgiecat9039 in an attempt to make it seem that females can be equal competent super heroes like men, they're doing the exact opposite. Now it seems like we need to be scared just for the fact that a woman is a hero. Especially because I'm most cases, they lact the mental and emotional fortitude that men have in their shows
😣I've never once thought women aren't equal to men except in terms of physical strength, but this wokeness culture has helped build a little prejudice against women in me that I never had. Now I'm so selective with the media I watch, especially those that make you think less of women in an attempt to glorify them with unearned victory, no hardships and the idea that the world revolves around them. Like can we just see people for people without a gender bias
I miss the days when Hulk was allowed to be written well and have great stories, Hell the comics to this day have hardly even been adapted on screen unlike pretty much everyone else in the MCU. She Hulk from the comics was very likeable, fun and written well by John Burn and Chris Clairmont. Every time we see Hulk on screen now, he barely gets any development and even when he does it's immediately overlooked and forgotten about. I get that Marvel technically can't make a full-fledged solo Hulk movie but come on by now we could've had a Series, or something dive deep into the story and rich lor of this character "ON SCREEN" we should at the very least get to see maybe flashbacks of Bruce and Hulk's life that led up to his appearances in the Avengers team ups, fun fact a lot of the early phases were gonna adapt his Peter David era stuff like Gray Hulk and Devil Hulk bur for some reason or another whether it be Marvel, Disney or the directors and writers Hulk never got to be fully realized on screen the way the other heroes were even within the constraints of the team ups. I wish we had someone at Marvel who loved the comics as much as the fans write for these characters but even though we may see a World War Hulk type story happen after this show (I doubt we will however) I hold very little confidence that it'll be even good let alone "Incredible" This character deserves justice
I feel the same, I really hope that in 2023, when Universal lost the shared rights, they give him a proper arc. i was really pissed when they just "killed" the Hulk Personality off-screen
@@aliciaechodumont2808 And now look what they did to Abomination... they made him act like Korg. At this point if The Leader ever shows up, I'm expecting him to be treated as the biggest clown in the MCU since he who remains (Kang) and I'm willing to put Money down on that especially if he turns out to be the big bad of this series
@TheBlueKing just think for a second. What in this series sets up a solo Hulk movie? Literally nothing. Smart Hulk is gonna show up one more time near the end of the show as another cameo I'm calling it now.
@TheBlueKing Also shut up. I have been advocating Marvel to do Abomination comic accurately since before 2008s Incredible Hulk. You weren't even allowed on the internet most likely and further more yes while he looks accurate his personality and characteristics are anything but. You don't know anything about these characters from the comics. I've been a comic book Fan long before we got movies or even mainstream shows about these characters. Blonsky in the conics is a KGB spy whole got his hands on Banners Gamma Tech and used it on himself out of curiosity becoming the Abomination to then go on and fight the Hulk and actually win their first fight. We also learn about Blonsky wife Nadia who thought he was dead but then learned of his transformation and went to Banner right as Blonsky figured out what happened he went gunning for Bruce only to find out his wife rejected him and said something along the lines of he's dead to her. Blonsky and the Hulk had a never ending rivalry that went beyond the grave literally. Abomination came back from Hell after Red Hulk killed him just to torture Banner with the ghosts of his parents Brian and Rebecca Banner. My favorite iterations of the character of Emil Blonsky outside of the comics come from the 90s animated series and the overlooked and under appreciated Incredible Hulk Ultimate Destruction Video Game and comic tie in which gives us a very gritty and interesting take on the character and his story in relation to Banner and the Hulk. I've been a Hulk fan, a comic book fan since before sites like YT existed so don't ever say I'm not. In the show they simply take his comic accurate design and make him act like a hippie yoga in structure therapist with "7 soul mates" which is nothing like the comic portrayal or really any good portrayal of this character. They even took away his intimidating growl in his voice. Oh and one more thing in the comics and pretty much everything else he can't change back and forth at will. He's literally unable to change back to his human form which is partially why he has such a grudge against Banner and even when Banner got a chance to try and help him Blonsky only made it worse because he poisoned and killed Betty Ross with his blood over what he believes banner did to his wife Nadia. Banner then refused to help Blonsky and told him to rot in Hell. In the show we get pretty much 0 explanation on how he's able to turn back and what happened to him all those years ago. Fuck we don't even get a flashback or anything aside from some bland basic dialog and corny jokes. I'm sorry but if this is comic accurate to you then maybe it's time you actually went online or go to a Damn bookstore and picked up some Damn comics and READ THEM. Use your EYE'S And read. It's not hard. I'm dyslexic and I've been reading comics just fine for 20 + year's. I love these characters and I want them adapted properly on the big/small screen. To this day that has not been done. Hulk deserves better than this. All these characters deserve better.
The only reason I wanted to watch she hulk was because of abomination
Someone brought up an interesting fact. Jen constantly talks about how she disapproves of men telling her what to do in her own area of expertise but rams on to hulk, the literal definition of anger, that she is better than Hulk and more experienced with anger.
Also JLongbone TH-camr brought up a good point about that bathroom scene with the woman prettying Jen up instead of doing the normal thing like calling paramedics, police etc:
It had to be done because if Jen looked like meth head crackwhore shit from the car accident; then we couldnt have the guys hitting on her outside later lol
Tf did you get the last part from my guy?😶watched the show from your ass or something?
“I know more about managing anger than you possibly could”
-Says it to a guy who’s been controlling an internal rage monster for over 15 years.
@@stlchucko The show said 15 years which was also a mistake. Its 20 years.
2003 to 2023 (when he became Smart Hulk.)
This is because the writer, Jessica Gao, is a moron who didnt pay attention to the plot of the 2008 Hulk movie.
Bruce was already the Hulk in that since 2003 as the plot explained he was in hiding on the run for 5 years.
@@stlchucko and who saw his father kill his mother
problem: she doesn't want to be the she-hulk, want to live the normal life.
also, she can control the transition.
solution: just don't turn into she-hulk, live your normal life.
but no, she wanted to whine, at the same time wanted to enjoy the power.
Also how the fuck is Titania not arrested lmao
Is it cause she's a popular female social media influencer and they forgave her because she had a low blood sugar attack? (actually said this in the show)
jfc
I guess when in real life we got wackos like Ezra Miller still walking around with no accountability, they figure this can make sense too lol
In the recent episode she excepted being she-hulk it looks like people just jumped the gun on this show it’s becoming popular to dump on the mcu without even watching it for reason.
@@michaeltaylor788 That doesn't solve the fact that she has no flaws and is always right. Along with that she is an unlikable character 🗿
@@pootispow3232 most people who watched the show say Otherwise.
@@michaeltaylor788 Most? Where? I don't see em. I legit saw more videos criticizing the show than me finding a compliment video. She hulk sucks. She has no struggles. She does everything easy. COMPARES CATCALLING to a guy like BRUCE who attempted suicide multiple times, Lost Natasha, Saw half of the world disappear and had to endure the infinity gauntlet. She has no character. She is literally a walking mary sue like rey who puts on the name she hulk.
Such a dislikable main character but if you criticize it you are a misogynist
lol modern feminism for you. not exactly the smartest audience to pander to when you know a good 70% of your viewers are going to be dudes who are nerds. not women who think they need "empowering" through a self-righteous and down right annoying character.
I wonder what name they have for women that criticize it too
@@ninjanibba4259 prudes. Probably.
@@ninjanibba4259 the most popular one is “pick me”
because the people stanning the series dont read the comics nor understand the character. They just see 'the message' and run with it. Hypocrites right alongside the writer and director.
Oh Jen thinks Steve Rogers is a virgin and has a picture of his ass on her phone? How cute.
If Daredevil (Matt Murdock) did that with Natasha (Black Widow) the show would be canceled.
As a fan of both Hulk and She-Hulk this is beyond disappointing.
Jen is nothing and I mean nothing like her comic book counterpart. I understand taking a few liberties but this changes core personality traits. The first and most important is Jen absolutely loves being a Hulk. Being She-Hulk let's her be someone she never thought she could be. She's strong, confident, sexy, witty just to name a few.
They got what they wanted when they said they wanted this to be a comedy cause two episodes in and this series is a joke.
The most baffling thing for me is that they couldn't even be bothered to use the (perfectly understandable) reason for her to become She-Hulk; Jen was in an accident and in critical condition, and Bruce, not even hesitating or thinking about what would happen, gave her some of his blood to save her life.
But see that would require Bruce and Jen to have the close bond they do in the comics (hell, just having that scene alone could have established a lot in a few minutes), but then...the writers would have to ease up on the Man hating, and we can't have THAT apparently
that's the point...this is woke she hulk...this is the M SHE U in full swing...
spam
@@minime96100 And Bruce has to save Jen.. which isn't allowed.
@@minime96100 Since they had Daredevil cameo coming up; they coulda just said the mob was working for Kingpin. They fucking had the slam dunk and they ran the ball to the other teams net lol
Remember when Jenn was a fun, realistic, and overall a pleasant character in the comics? Maybe not everyone's favorite but was always decent when she appeared. Bruce saved her life with the blood he had because if not she would've died and he hated himself for a long time because of it. She was grateful and thankful for him saving her and both had a great bond and teamwork.
11:59 It's extra stupid when as we saw in the Incredible Hulk a simple, nonlethal shock, was enough to trigger a Hulk transformation. The writers litterally made the Hulk look like an idiot for the sake of a gag.
These writers are ruining The Hulk and She-Hulk. If they don't care about the characters they're writing for, If they're using these characters and stories as a selfish therapeutic experiment for themselves, completely disrespecting the fans, than they shouldn't be writing in the first place.
These “writers” never read any She-Hulk comics! In fact, it was an original IP Lawyer series but the writers decided to convert it into a She-Hulk series instead (without knowing the source material)!
That cant be right, cause the writers admitted they cant write courtroom scenes (because they're talentless)
@@wood5174 They “tried” to make an original IP Lawyer series, but they can’t write for jack, so instead, they turned it to a She-Hulk “comedy” series without knowing anything about its lore!
Kevin feige make reading the comic of the character your playing mandatory so what you guys are saying makes no sense.
@@michaeltaylor788 No! I said the writers, not the actors! (besides, actors aren’t forced to read comics neither) Like Star Wars, Marvel writers and actors don’t need to know source material to get hired.
@@mattimusprimal637 I heard when he was working on the original x-men movies he secretly gave the actors x-men comics to read so they can get into character even when his superiors did not want him to the writers actually talk about the comics in interviews so it’s more of them taking liberties with the characters not them being clueless .
Hulk has to put up with this Jen, that alone is a bigger feat than any anger management Jen had to do in her entire life.
Thank you for this. I've been saying these exact same thing about the idiocy of that first episode and how it completely contradicts the 2008 Hulk movie. I was surprised more TH-cam reviewers and journalist reviews didnt catch onto this enormous continuity error plothole which compltely retconned Bruce's origin.
The 2008 movie went through a lot of strides to try to make the science of the Hulk make sense.
The Gamma Pulse was the name of the MRI-Like machines Bruce aimed at his head.
Dr. Stern used the term "amygdala" which is the part of the grey matter of the brain that controls fear and emotions and stores repressed memories.
This is important because we know Bruce has this from his backstory.
Dr. Stern also mentioned the term 'primer'.
In the original script ; they went further and used the terms "Myostatin Protein primer" and "Uranium" and "radiation mitigation"
These are important because Myostatin controls skeletal muscle growth. Remove that function and the muscle growth grows out of control (like those steroid looking cows you see in pictures)
Uranium poisoning is something soldiers often went through.
So Betty and Bruce were working on an antibody for General Ross (or at least they were lied to) to create a resistance to radiation sickness and Uranium has gamma rays in it; hence why Bruce used the Gamma Pulse machine on himself because he trusted the work Betty and he did to test it on himself.
So there was a lot of scientific research done in order for the plot to make sense and this stupid ass She-Hulk writer just throws all of that out of the window, practically calling Bruce and Jen Mutants now, and citing "the bathroom scene" as the most important scene of the episode. A scene she said she fought to keep in,
A writer who admitted she's not that adept at writing a lawyer show.
A writer who tried to say she read the John Byrne She-Hulk comics yet misquoted them in an interview.
A writer who admitted she was rejected 3 times before by Marvel before she got hired, and said she was gonna keep at it even if she would have to 'burn their offices down' in the process.
A writer who in interviews bragged how she can bully Kevin Feige into what she wants.
Are you fucking kidding me with this dumb bitch.
Lol go outside get some fresh air and a woman because this is pathetic. It's called a retcon loser. Happens in comics all the time, see house of M, see the latest Eternals comic run.
@@Maxrepfitgm There isn't a retcon in the world that excuses this show from being plotless, holey dog shit. It was supposedly made for comic fans and it doesn't give a shit about the comics or movies. People are annoyed
In the comics Jen is in an accident (or attacked I forget) and she lost a lot of blood and she was in danger because she was with Bruce/Hulk and Banner in order to save his cuz life he reluctantly gives her a blood trans to save her …. Because the bloodline and matching blood type she finds herself becoming SHEHULK she’s in more control of her alter and not as powerful considering it was a transfusion not an explosion of Gama …. It’s also why she becomes attractive outgoing charming instead of a Monster …..
In the comics her transformation isn’t because of stress but danger and/or when she needs to get out of her timid shell ….. she’s in control of her trans UGGGH they are litterally effin’ up what gave her depth …. She eventually Hulks out years later finding out someone finally killed Bruce and her waking from a Coma after Thanos killed Warmachine lol
Can you imagine if Jen met Nat. Nat reflecting on her traumatic backstory and all her friends she’s lost. Then Jen cuts her off to tell her she understands that trauma coz she’s been cat called on the street.
jesus what a way to be apathetic about street harassment
Man I'm loving all the Hulk love you're showing.
I've basically given up on the MCU, and the pussification of Hulk was the 1st thing that started my disinterest.
He's my favorite comic book character of all time, I even have a horribly ugly giant Hulk tatt on my back that I got as a kid, let my drunk buddy use me as practice because I was so in love with the idea of a Hulk tattoo.
I use to think that the problem in the MCU, was that Hulk had been handed to people who didnt understand him.
Now it's fairly obvious that the issue is they hate him,
They hate his fans,
And they are going out of the way to ruin the character.
I'm hearing a lot of WWHulk buzz , I don't understand how they can do a movie that has even 1/4th of the spirit of WWH when they have made him a Nursemaid.
You can't have World War Hulk without The Monster.
Marvel/Disney has Killed the monster.
It's not just the hulk they hate. The handling they've made recently of Thor, Dr Strange, pretty much any main lead who white and male has been made a joke of
In the words of the late great Stan "The Man" Lee; "Nuff Said"!
And not only he has also killed Thor
I don't know what trauma Kevin Fish has for those characters who hate them and soon the X Men I'm sure will be a joke
@@MrOrcshaman
Don't forget Black Bolt Mr Fantastico, this last one is reported that John Krassinski is out precisely because of the horrible treatment they gave him and not to mention the mythical Patrick Stewart brought back to die in the most pathetic way
@TimeSentinel 🎯🎯🎯💯💯💯Facts!!!
These writers only care about pushing 3rd Wave Feminism,not telling a Hulk story.
THIS!!!☝☝☝
@@DraGanix33 she-hulk in the comics is a good person in mcu not
That "BITCH, the court room is destroyed." made me crack up laughing. 😂
The thing is I'm pretty sure it's normal for Jen to be completely conscious in her Hulk form from the get go.
I think Blonsky was also conscious as the Abomination, in fact that's one of the reasons it makes sense to put him in prison and keep him there.
Because he uses his Abomination form as a weapon, and commited actual murders doing so since he was legitimately conscious and aware of what he was doing.
Which gets ruined in the show anyway lol.
Nonetheless Jen's mind isn't fractured like Bruce's is since she doesn't have a multiple identities in her head.
That doesn't mean her journey can't be interesting, because what I remember from my childhood. Jen as a human wasn't confident, was kind of shy and honestly just another person in the background. Her Hulk form gave her a ton of confidence, she was THE She Hulk.
It paints this massive contrast between two versions of Jen but what's interesting is that she isn't actually 2 different people in the same mind like with Bruce. She doesn't have any disorders she just changes her personality because her Hulk form changes her looks.
The show however does that no justice, she's just perfect from the get go and a massive narcissist that's overconfident in herself even before she gets her Hulk form...
"Because I'm better than you?"
"It's basically different."
"In a better way."
Where have I heard this malicious comic book hatred dialogue before? Ah yes:
"[The Batsuit] is literal perfection."
"It will be. When it fits a woman."
These smug female "characters" honestly sound more like supervillains than heroes.
RIP World war hulk it’s going to be hard for someone to fix these mistakes in a new hulk movie
There thinking of making a world war hulk movie one the contract with universal runs out sometime in 2023 .
I disagree on one point with you in that the writers didn't read about Hulk or She-Hulk's past they simply don't give a sh*t. These writers are squatting and releasing all their daddy and boyfriend issues on to Marvel as well as DC.
You should have more views given the quality of these videos! I would love to hear you analyze the quality of the mcu movies/shows going forward.
Looks like someone really likes and understand Hulk character. This channel needs more attention and views because content and video quality is really good.
But I have few points to critique (I agree with most that was said in the video):
1) don't think gamma radiation is needed to create another Hulk... maybe in the world of MCU but She-Hulk in the comics got her powers after transfusion from Bruce
2) car crash was not Jen's fault. There was clear road without any turns in front of her and that space ship appeared out of nowhere. I know driver should pay attention to road all the time but there was no indication of any danger.
I have an issue with point 2, Jen is a licensed driver and thus responsible for operating her vehicle safely.
Keep in mind, she had the option to slowdown and pull over when the spaceship appeared. What she did instead is panic, ignore the brakes, swerve the vehicle into the nearest barrier and down into a ditch endangering herself and her passenger. Luckily there were no other vehicles nearby because she would have endangered them as well.
@@K05H that's fair point. I was talking more about what she did before not during and after crash. She didn't handle the situation at all
The second point reinforces women are bad drivers
I just hate that they nerf Hulk to high hell and make him look weak when that is not the case. His power is literally the angrier he gets the stronger he gets and they just don't follow that rule at all.
In the first episode he tosses a balder into space and over powered her in there training fights he was only nerfed in two movies ( the director’s admitted it they did not know what to do with him ) people really need look stuff up and get over those two movies .
@@michaeltaylor788 but he is super weekend compared to his comic book counter part and also he I just used for jokes and is not taken serious the 2003 and 2007 hulk are the best ones
@@lights_utopia1130 all the characters in the mcu are super weakened compared to there comic counterpart and some are used the same way as him just look at Thor .
@@michaeltaylor788 tryhard marvel fan spotted!!!!!!!
@@clover9725 huh 🤔.
MCU writers seem to pull from comics instead of established MCU canon. It was in the comics that Gamma radiation alone caused Bruce to become the Hulk, and Jen became She-Hulk due to a a blood transfusion from Bruce.
It feels kinda insulting to Hulk and to the fans when this new character is shown to be better than our Hulk without any practice or development.
I would love to hear you review the pilot episode of the Incredible Hulk from 1978. I think it's far superior in writing, tone, music and emotional depth than any later version. The only thing I feel it lacks are the effects.
So if you haven't seen it, maybe you get pleasantly surprised. If you hate it, I would love to hear your intricate answer for that too.
Thank you for making great content.
I can't wait for his thoughts on episode 3 oh boy...
6:28-- I agree with the video 100%. And I agree the She Hulk show has contrivances. But the source material does establish that Banner has a biological difference that allows him to HULK whereas other don't.
In the comics, his Father exposed Banner to Gamma and physical abuse as a young boy. So that established Banner's tolerance to Gamma AND his repressed personality.
In the TV show, Banner thinks his DNA is lacking something his test subjects had. But when he tests himself, he actually has the most. But then he discovered they had Hulk like incidents when the Sun was emitting high Gamma, but he didn't. So his logic is to expose himself to Gamma directly. It didn't give him permanent strength, but it did give him that ability after bouts of anger.
I think Bruce (?) referring to himself as "Smart Hulk" was supposed to be a reference to Iron Man 1 because as Tony said while holding a newspaper before saying "I am Iron Man":
_"That's kind of catchy. It's got a nice ring to it."_
Tony never gave himself the name Iron Man but it was what the press was referring to him as.
So presumably the press used the term Smart Hulk and he never changed it.
It’s sad cause she hulk in comics is actually cool and different I don’t even get this character 🤷🏾♂️
Maybe the gamma resistant serum was the reason he has 2 personalities and the large amount of direct gamma is the reason that he gets super big. I also believe that if Emil didn’t get that large dose of game but just Bruce’s blood, he would have just gotten stronger but not larger. This may not be true but this is how I am viewing the situation to create a cannon explanation
I agree with everything you said, except the control part, because Hulk (the real) is actually a second personality from Bruce , so I thin she wouldn't have this issue
Yeah in the comics basically every other character that gains the ability to hulk out has better control than Bruce because they don’t have DID like he does
We just don’t know what it’s like to be annoyed, condescended, judged or threatened like she does. /s
Good video, and thank you for using those examples from the first MCU Hulk movie.
Watched your Hulk in Infinity War and Endgame hindsight review and this.
Definitely subbing.
A bit late to this, but I wanted to let you know that I love your character/oc design a lot! Reminds me of Eldritch gods/beings.
this first episode was pretty much just pandering to feminists. you see it with most of their talking points. Jens stronger than hulk as you pointed out, even though she's smaller and got less of the resources, like you said. much like feminists say. the comparison of being cat called to Bruce trying to commit suicide is another common theme among modern feminism. that's why the directing makes it seem as though she's right. albeit, it's entertaining to watch without thinking, but this kind of stuff is getting rather old.
This is one of the most un-likeable protagonist I’ve ever seen. Yet, at the same time, you can tell they were trying to create a ‘strong independent wahmen’. But it backfired in every single way. It’s amazing, really
I'd say it seems more like the writers just blatantly hate men, not specifically the hulk
I mean just look at her; she's looks like a sack of potatoes lol she's prob the last girl asked out at the bar if that. Bitter af
What are you saying she loses to hulk in her training fight and they treat Bruce very well according to people who actually watched the episodes.
@@michaeltaylor788 no. They don’t. She literally says being catcalled is worse than having your mother shot in front of you by your father. The father who also physically abused you.
@@excaliburknives3572 I don’t judge and entire series based on one dumb line from one episode
@@michaeltaylor788 I judged from all three episodes. YEAH, from the character of Dennis, from the lack of a spine from Bruce, from the calling old men as fossils, and to Jen's COMPLETE hypocrisy on how she sees men.
I knew that it was bad, but i didn't think this far. Watching this horrid show i didn't even think about the continuity errors and blatant disregard of what has already been established in the MCU. I watched the show suspending my disbelief (and even THEN it was atrocious), but this deep dive into episode 1 of She-Hulk is making me lose all hope in the MCU and its writers. How dare they do Hulk dirty like this.
This is a great quality video btw. 👌🏻👏🏻
Also side note: In the previous movies, they never called him "Hulk" once? I thought i heard Cap say in an Avengers movie "and Hulk.... Smash". I know they called Hulk "the other guy", but still... Not once? Maybe it's a Mandela Effect thing.
hulk after endgame has been nothing more than a punching bag. comedic punchline at that.
Thor
Hawkeye
Iron Man
Hulk
Cap
pretty much all the OG heroes
Shit, they dont even bother to recast T'Challa
I mean why bother when you can just replace him with a woman while making millions exploiting the death of an actor.
I'm gonna say it...STOP LETTING MIDDLE AGED WOMEN DIRECT ENTERTAINMENT MEANT FOR KIDS AND TEENS!!!!!!!!!!!
THIS!!!☝☝☝
Through all of this I still can't get over how the writers overlooked something so simple as Hulk can heal better than any human. Choosing to keep Bruce as a human to heal faster is one of the worst writing mechanics I've ever seen.
This is why to me, phase 4 is not canon to the MCU at all
The complete bastardisation of the hulk here and just everyone else in phase 4 is just terrible
It is. And phase 6 will be the ending of the MCU w/ Avengers Secret Wars. Ending the multiverse & creating a rebooted MCU.
@@midnightdeluxegaming6582 I heard Kevin Feige will leave at that point.
@@budgiecat9039 That would be good that means fresh minds, fresh ideas.
@@budgiecat9039 That would be good that means fresh minds, fresh ideas.
Matches the comics perfectly, just 2 generations later. Can't exactly have a modern woman going crazy over disco..... Jen does NOT need gamma radiation. In the comics she got a blood transfusion from Bruce because they both have a super rare blood type and she was shot outside the courthouse. That's WHY she isn't "insane hulk" like bruce was. Very little radiation in her. You really should look up the original origin before you try and criticize this one.
Yeah I was going to say a lot of the issues he cites come from the comics and while the MCU is a different continuity any contrivance isn't worth critiquing if Jen's whole conception has always been a plot contrivance.
Bro remember me when you get famous I love your videos and you're one of the very few people who view TIH like I do. I also love when it cuts away to your character and shows your face of how you feel about what you're talking about. Keep up the good work !
7:26 this sound like crap... the Hulk has an insane healing factor- his arm should have been healed a long time ago..
After seeing what they turned hulk into I’m glad Edward Norton bailed
4:10 "How considerate of them to respect the abuser's identity."
This is disturbingly on-point, if Chris-chan getting arrested taught me anything.
17:52 Maybe the writers confused the difference between being drunk and getting a hangover when writing that line... being able to get as drunk as you want without waking up with a hangover would be a benefit (no idea when Banner worked that out though because if I were in his position I'd never drink alcohol again regardless of whether I was standard Hulk or 'Smart' Hulk).
Love this video, great points throughout it all, glad youre getitng more and more subs
2003 Hulk examined Bruce's biology and how his gamma radiation came from his experimenting on himself.
*_I realized something. Why didn't Jen, after telling the "ladies" that she doesn't need help, "hulk out", because she CLEARLY told them "no" but they persisted. Shouldn't THAT be seen as a "triggering event"? After all.. She flipped out on GUYS WHO DIDN'T EVEN TOUCH HER BUT THE FEMALES IN THE BATHROOM DID TOUCH HER._* 🤨
*_I already know. It's BECAUSE they're FEMALES who came into physical contact with her AFTER SHE SAID "NO"._* 🙄😒
The female director said it was an important to show the "sisterhood" of the womans bathroom. Whatever the hell that means
@@carlospomares3225 *_Ah. It figures. Jussie Gao. A true ¢unt to the bitter 🔚._* 🤨
*_Thank you for shedding light on the behind-the-scenes aspect of it all._* ☺️
Whenever I see that yoga dialogue a part of my soul dies out of how stupid and unlikable it is.
Great critique. The writers seemed to have no knowledge of or care about the hulk and simply wanted to write a show with a key message of female victimhood and superiority to men.
I imagine they would insert these messages into whatever they were writing, regardless of whether it made sense for the characters or show.
Here before 1k subs. Great content man.
Remember that Jen was in the car,obviously Bruce is not going to kill his cousin.
Everyone likes Norton as Hulk but I think Eric Bana's Hulk was the Hulk we needed in the MCU.
I swear the writers want us to HATE Jen. There is literally no other explanation I can think of. She has no likable or redeemable qualities whatsoever. I get angry the more I watch. And I’m a woman. I truly don’t know who this show was made for.
Dude your channel is insanely underrated 🥺
egotistical women up their own bottoms. Mark Ruffalo as the Hulk isn't much better. I bet he wears pink, frilly nickers and does the washing and ironing.
How is this kind of man ever going to know how to smash? He might be able to get juice out of an orange or hurt his arm in the process.
This is easily one of the best videos someone has made on this series. No melt downs, no woke accusations, and all the facts are put succinctly and professionally. For this, I thank you.
We need more criticisms like Valtium’s
I like how you show clips from The Incredible Hulk, one of the few or the only actually real movie from the mcu.
bro i haven’t even seen episode one but man u convinced me not to what have they done to hulk 😔
This assessment is spot on. Well done.
I'm glad your videos are getting more views bro. Quality content here👌
This is the type of sh*t you gotta expect when you have one of the most mainstream corporations making the content.
How ironic of them to make a woman not pay attention when driving then end up crashing🤣
Being that the MCU Hulk is a soft-reboot of the 2003 Ang Lee Hulk, you can add a manipulative and abusive father and overall traumatic childhood, not to mention the death of his mother at a young age to his long list of life-long hardships. Same with the comics.
I kinda wish it wasn't a soft reboot now I hope it stays away from the mcu that movie had a fair share of problems but they did they hulk really well in that movie and then they did him just aswell if not better in 2008 after that it was all downhill from there
Him calling him self smart hulk it's like Steve Rogers calling him self strong Steve instead of captain América
Dan Slott endorsing the MCU She-Hulk doesn't do any favours. It implies that Jen is just as rude and obnoxious in the comics.
The MCU has hated the Hulk since Thor Ragnarock. She Hulk is further urinating on the Hulk’s MCU character.
If the writers were *actually* clever they'd have had Hulk activate the saw blades and *claim* he can't shut it down while showing his hand on an emergency shut off button
One of the problems, I think, is that they're pulling from Jenn's comic origin without fully acknowledging Hulk's MCU origin. Further complicated by his inconsistent portrayal across the MCU. It's true that in the comics Jenn gets his blood and is just She-Hulk from then on and she demonstrably doesn't suffer from the same crises as Banner. Usually, comics are fucking stupid so it's never a 100% thing. The problem is that clashes with what's been presented in the MCU and IF they're drawing more heavily from the comics it makes her look even worse as a family member, because the entire reason comic Bruce is ballistic goes back to things like abuse and PTSD finally given true manifestation.
Although if they are pulling from the comics it would explain its treatment of Banner a bit (as well as his Ragnarok characterization now that I think about it). It's established in the comics that Banner is kind of an asshole that really deserves a calling out or two, or currently an entire series, as the current Hulk run dedicates a lot of its time punishing Banner for his actions in the previous run.
There are no competent writers in the MCU anymore, just people who know people and get work. Say what you want about Whedon, but he understood the characters.
Yeah, just have him as a consultant. A CONSULTANT. Because this is just beyond saving now.
Has anyone seen The Hulk destroy a building lately? Anyone? Nerfed!!!
When she fell through the cliff, a normal human would panic immediately and try to keep balance, or scream...
...But she lifts the middle finger instead, as if she was already incredibly used to falling said heights.
Isn't Jen a lawyer? Cause if thats the case then she would want to help people. 💀💀
I want to point out the reason why hulk might have not stopped the car was not the fact he wasn’t strong enough in my opinion he was holding back he does this throughout the episode (as god awful as it is) as he doesn’t want to hurt Jen
7:45 Good night. Ruffalo really phoned in that performance.
Great review, the best I’ve seen so far.
She-Hulk: Attorney at Law is the kind of show that makes me wish there was some cheesy 90s TV movie adaptation I could watch instead.
Hulk fan and enjoyer here subbed
They could've said that Bruce needed some Vibranium in order for it to actually be worth using, cause without it it would've just turned her into a walking Gamma bomb. The hulk transformation metabolizes Gamma and Vibranium's primary use is modulating and manipulating energies, so without the vibranium, which he can't get a hold of more of right now, she would emit the gamma that would normally be metabolized to power her hulk form instead.
Hulk was called smart hulk, toy biz action figures- mid 1990s
Of her claps are so loud that it hurt hulks ears then it's going to destroy her ears. as her hands are way closer to her ears than his ears.
I think you missed the part when Jennifer Walters term sushi hot and Bruce asked her hey can you control yourself and she said yes why wouldn’t I saw from the jump with those guys were approaching her I think it was a scare tactic not necessarily going to kill them
25:27 super bimbo 😂 you’re goated bro
I've seen lots of reviews about She Hulk from highly regarded TH-camrs with several hundred thousands of subscribers. Your review is far better than all of them. +1 Subscriber
Although I agree with pretty much everything you say but, and this is just me, I think jen should not be forced into being a super hero especially when she is a lawyer. Nobody should be forced into a role they did not ask for
Hulk is so beautiful. It truly brings tears to my eyes when I say "Look how they massacred my boy!".
The stuff the lawyer dude said does make sense smiling makes people like you more
Rewatching this back through your lens the hints that this was a show was there from the start. So Jen going to the writer's room was their plan from the start of the show which is really odd to me.
Yeah, this looks more like a villain origin story masquerading as a hero one.
20:59 I cannot agree with this sentiment since Jen transforms into her Hulk form while she's finishing up her ranting, which implies that she's not nearly as good at controlling her anger as she lets on and that she shouldn't dismiss everything Bruce is saying. I don't know why so many reviews on TH-cam keep omitting the end of that rant as it's kind of important to the overall narrative.