Why You Should Never JUST Install A Leveling Kit
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 20 มิ.ย. 2021
- In today's video we show you why JUST installing a leveling kit on a truck is a terrible idea. These Motofab leveling kit spacers need supporting upgrades to operate efficiently. We show and explain how the Eibach Prolift Kit for our 2017 Ram 1500 is a much better option to life your truck!
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I have the same same moto fab and mine has the squeak as well did you notice any extra break feedback in the peddle?
I hot that same kit 2 years ago and i decided to go with the 6” rough country lift so wouldn’t have to switch my coil spings that i brought from eibach
I have the same noise and it drives me insane! glad to find out the cause, thank you!!
Idk how I drove months with it! You're welcome!
Mine just started doing it yesterday and thought it was coming from the rear! glad I found this video. About to order struts. I'm done with the puck crap
Looks fricken awesome for 2.75 in lift I did a fab tech 4 inch lift. I want eventually get front coil overs toss the spacers in the trash lol
Thanks for your video. Both you guys did a Great job. 💪
Thank you appreciate it a lot!
Thank God. I thought it was just my truck!!! Lol I'm gonna put these in ASAP lol. I bought this truck pre leveled and love the look. But mines started squeaking as well. So I will definitely gets this done.
Nope it's a common problem! We ended up going with the 2nd ring spacer on the bottom and I'd recommend Zoneoffroads Upper control arms in addition it really completes the front end and you won't have any issues with UCA geometry issues!
Thought for sure this video would be about the stock upper ball joint not being able to stay put with the lift and needing aftermarket UCA’s. You can see the upper joint move in the UCA when it was knocked free from the spindle. It was still crooked put back together later. That thing will creak rocking back and forth and eventually push through the stock UCA. Spacer lifts are fine. Stock Ram UCA’s with any lift is no bueno.
So if I am considering installing a 2in level kit ( either spacer or a spring) should I also get new UCA's?
@@_jay51yes for any truck I would believe this is better to do
This whole time I thought it was my side mirror making that squeak !😂 def I’m about 30k miles into my 2.5 block level as well 😦 definitely wouldn’t mind getting this upgrade
It's definitely an annoying sound! This Eibach kit was pretty affordable for the quality
My truck is doing the same thing smh I might just take those spacers off for now till I can get this upgrade
I took mine off, Beveled the edge, and no more squeak.
But u will have tonpit a 1/2” spacer on top of strut to bring it back level after strut breaks in it will drop a 1/2” i got mine from amazon
I put the Eibach kit on my truck and they said to install the height ring at the second groove from the bottom of the shock. You're not even suppose to use the 5th groove. My truck is 1 inch lower in the front than the back. I would recommend the 3rd groove for a dead level ride.
Sorry to pop up I have the same kit and I did the second to the highest ring set on my ram 4x4 a year ago so far so good and you get a even stance on the truck and the cv axle don’t rub at all on the components Great kit for the price 😊tb furniture
2017 Ram 1500, install motofob 2.5" leveling kit in the front. Have any problem or issue at all. 3 yrs until now with any problem. I don't even due the alignment in 3 yrs and my tires thread is even. Now Im going to switch bigger tires and Im going to replace my control arms, and some others parts in my front suspension, but overall everything is working perfect.
You probably didn't have any issues because you didn't have larger/heavier tires. Once you have those on, the front end of the truck will have a lot more strain with the extra weight added. Definitely upgrade UCA's and other suspension components if needed
I Have The Same Truck I Put The Motofab 2.5in Leveled Kit On It About And I Put About 20,000 Miles On It Been Making That Same Squeaking Noise It Also Driving Me Crazy, Am Fixing To Switch Set Ups
Yep it's very common to happen and very annoying like you said! Good luck with the new set up.
nice truck bro,,thanks for all good advise :)
Appreciate it thanks and our pleasure!
I just did the moto fab leveling kit in my truck did you ever have to tighten the bolts that hold the spacer in once in awhile after few miles on just. I was just wondering
We haven’t but that’s very common, usually after you fool with suspension parts even if torqued you’ll have to adjust them roughly 1000 miles later. It’s just breaking in the product and the screws back out a tad bit. I suggest when you retighten them to put on some blue thread locker just as another precaution!
Can't thank you guys enough for this video. I was about to take mine out. I have alignment issues
Glad we could help out!
Just find you guy’s great 👍 video! I liked, shared, and subscribed. Kentucky here
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The dealer installed a front leveling kit on my 2011 1500 when I bought it brand new. Never any problems to this day.
That's awesome! Was it the "puck" style?
I believe so.
So when you put this after market suspension on as well as the leveling kit spacers it will lift it even more??
You eliminate the spacers with this kit
I’m getting a rough counter lifted struts 2 inch installed next week on my 2017 Ram! Question should I replace the upper control arms as well with rough country ? Since I’m getting that stuff taking apart anyway
Nice! And yeah I'd highly recommend changing the UCA's when you're doing the struts! I went with Zone Offroad and they are way beefier and better then the stock ones. I'm sure Rough County makes a decent set too
Love the look and Eibach, Unfortunately...I've tried to piece a kit together for my Eco Diesel for over a year now, and they've been out of stock for this or that every time.
Eibach is a very reputable brand and honestly that doesn’t surprise me, car parts are very hard to come by lately with the supply issues etc
@@RatchetWrenches probably been 2 years of trying.
@@johngeorge2081 oh damn lol maybe they discontinued them or something
What size wheels are on this truck and how much offset? thanks
They are 20x10's with -24mm offset
Will you film the zones? This is literally the same setup I want to go with I think...thx
I didn't film it, I did it last night. Pretty straight forward literally just 3 bolts / nuts. But yeah looks so much better then stock!
@@RatchetWrenches any pics with new angles and clearances?
I think you said 33s for tires could you fit 35s?
Also you said front looks a bit higher now. I'm wondering did you measure your rake beforehand? If front went up 2.75" and rear went up 1" that's means there was a + 1.75" gain in front. From nearly everything I have ever read or heard the stock truck is 2-2.5" lower in the front. If so shouldn't it still be higher in back by at least .25"?
@@eagle1hd I put 2 pictures on our Instagram story if you wanna check it out. The zone off road UCAs are great they are heavy duty and you can grease the ball joints. Yea before I had 2.5 inch front and nothing in rear so the truck sat completely level. Now it's .25" inches higher because of new suspension. You can barely tell though
You should change the control arm too, they make cheap ones that are a bit longer they change that nasty angle of the ball joint
I did end up upgrading to Zone Offroad UCA's which are significantly better!
Hey bro what was that squeak in the beginning? I swear my 2012 is leveled with spacers and makes that same noise. I just changed the brakes and it still squeaks
On my Ram is was that top strut mount bushing making the squeaking noise but it could be a variety of things in your case
Stock comparison good
Was the old spacers left on & transferred onto the new coil?
Nope disregard the spacers entirely!
@@RatchetWrenches what type of control arms you ended up buying? I have the same truck just a 2012 I’m planning on doing the same.
Is this only on rams? I just purchased motofab 2.5in leveling kit to put on my Silverado
I mean I would recommend it on all trucks once you alter the suspension but that’s truly up to you!
@@RatchetWrenches where did you purchased your kit from? Link?
@@RatchetWrenches I would hate to have the Motofab installed only to have them squeaking
What about a front and rear leveling kit? Would that cause the same thing or would it ride well since it’s not squatted so much
I'm not sure but I would imagine if you lower the rear to the ride height in the front it would be ok. The main reason leveling the front causes more wear overtime is because the front suspension is strained from being up higher with the heavy engine and it changes the geometry and driving angles of everything
You guys put the height ring wrong tho ,with eibach spring alone capable of lifting the truck 2.75 inches but if you are using original springs then you have to put the ring all the way up,
how truck feels on larger bumps ?
becuase i put 35 x12.5 with this kit with original spring and when i hit bumps at higher speed the truck wants to go side ways like the rebound is slow for a bit.
That squeeking could be fixed with some silicon, or maybe some rubberized undercoating spray.
Sprayed mine with wd40 and it went away.
any time you alter the factory lift its gone ride like a 2 horse wagon
Unless you spend a lot of money on a high quality kit then yeah
I use four 80 pounds cement bags and “presto”, it’s level. Boy that was cheap!
To each their own
Perfect the way it is. As the springs and everything wear in it will start to sag. Inch higher on the front should be perfect after a few thousand miles.
That's true the suspension will settle a bit I guess it all comes down to personal preference
A brand new set up will normally be a little stiff at first👍
It's higher off the ground and stiffer suspension overall so yeah I feel a lot more of the road with bumps and pot holes etc
You got the caliper bracket bolts out with a 3/8”impact? Clearly didn’t tighten those down correctly the last time.
Broke them loose off camera then used 3/8"
Is this kit for a 2wd or 4wd? Cannot find anything online for a 2wd classic that is not a puck.
I think it was for 4wd only if I recall correctly
@@RatchetWrenches ah man, thanks
Sick
How's your cv axles doing lol?
On my second set 😂
Was it like a faint cherping sound?
No it was pretty loud actually
@@RatchetWrenches Took mine apart today
My motofab front spacers were just rubbing the top of the strut mount.
Just leveled my truck with a spacer . Damn i wish i would have went wyt coils
They are a lot more money but definitely worth it for the quality and customization aspect!
It gets you the level you need for new wheels and tires... this is what I am doing.... I am having the level kit (Puck style) installed this week... just got my new wheels and tires last week..... now I can save up for new Upper Control Arms. I did a 2.5 level
Like a double leveling kit that turns into a lift
So if you are interested in installing a leveling kit solely for looks and appearance but don't want to do it because it may ruin the vehicle, try looking at the whole entire truck, including the cabin/rooftop area multiple times before you get it installed and spend the money to get one. It's what I did and it actually looks amazing to me. It may take practice to let it all sink in. I don't know if anyone agrees with that. Sometimes, I think we look at the middle to bottom body of the truck only and forget about the top. I also think cool looking tires especially wheels can be distracting and grabs a lot of attention from the driver for an attractive look to the vehicle, probably more than what you see at the top.
Think of convertibles where the rag top folds down and all you can see is the body, wheels, and tires.
I could be wrong but trying to make things better for those who wish to install leveling kits to make their vehicle look more aesthetically pleasing but also don't want to put a leveling kit to wear out suspensions, the tires faster, etc. Spending the money on one can hurt especially if it hasn't been installed the right way. Try talking to a professional mechanic who can level your truck the right way along with an alignment done at least.
Did you change your upper arms when you put your leveling kit?
@@soonwillmoon4479 You mean the front end? I wanted a leveling kit to give my 2012 Colorado a more balance appearance. No angles. So actually I traded it in for a 2021 Tacoma and left it stock. The Tacoma already looks pretty leveled with just a slight rake appearance which is good enough. 👍 leveling kits and lift kits sure did wear down my tires on the Colorado faster.
Definitely need 35 12.50s now
33's still fit nicely I upgraded to some BF Goodrich AT's since I got a nail in 2 of my tires and they were bald too
@@RatchetWrenches that’s exactly what I ran on my F150 in 2006 BFG At. On 16.5 wheel 35x12.50s I have 33s going on now on my Ram because I had a BOLT a 1/4” x1” long bolt in my tire I don’t know how a blunt nosed bolt got in it but it forced me to buy A set of mud tires
should of just bought Bilstein 531 adjustable struts to start
We live and learn haha
An Eibach box in a box ;)
Exactly!
GUESS THEY DONT MAKE ONE FOR A 2001 RAM
You proud would of spent same on a 4" lift
Probably but at the time I was parking in a parking garage for work that had lower ceilings so I couldn't have done the 4"
Never install just pucks.... it changes the suspension and drivetrain geometry but also moves the compression range as well. Just spend the extra and do it right.
Yeah we live and learn
Bottom line is: any squeak with new crap is a joke.
i have the same wheels l.faoo
Nice! I love these wheels
Mustang mustang mustang mustang
What about it ?