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  • @Ghost_of_Avalon
    @Ghost_of_Avalon ปีที่แล้ว +147

    Grey Knights: Rejoice children of the Emperor, we are here to save you!
    Imperial Citizen: Hurray it's the Grey Knights!
    GK: FROM YOURSELVES!
    IC: Oh no, it's the Grey Knights...

    • @andreibaciu7518
      @andreibaciu7518 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      "You saved us"
      "Oh i wouldn't say saved, more like, _under new management_ "

    • @luigivercotti6410
      @luigivercotti6410 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      Based Hellsing enjoyer

  • @oysterscrolls
    @oysterscrolls ปีที่แล้ว +465

    God i love Grey Knights. Im such a Grey Knight enjoyer. Every day i wake up and put on my finest clothes, go down to the hobby shop and buy more Grey Knights. They have the best writing in the setting and absolutely wipe the tabletop. Grey Knights could beat Custodes so easily if you really think about it. I love the Grey Knights. I can feel Kaldor Draigo coming inside me

    • @lykos2738
      @lykos2738 ปีที่แล้ว +88

      There is no way you meant to write that last sentence.

    • @lemonzrus9042
      @lemonzrus9042 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      amen brother

    • @Bread-nx9fo
      @Bread-nx9fo ปีที่แล้ว +72

      Grey Knights could really beat the Emperor tbh I love spending 140 dollars on patrols please let my family go GW

    • @TacticalReaper56
      @TacticalReaper56 ปีที่แล้ว

      "Unlimited nutting"

    • @Mondy667
      @Mondy667 ปีที่แล้ว +74

      Least insane Grey Knights player

  • @drxtale9446
    @drxtale9446 ปีที่แล้ว +318

    Lamenters would be hilariously sad. Well, I’ll wait till the cursed founding comes up.

    • @patrickiamonfire965
      @patrickiamonfire965 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Certainly tragic but they try their best no matter what and they’re very skilled. They managed to widdle the numbers of one of the biggest tyranid fleet and survived over 100 years in the warp, held their grounds against chaos long enough for other astartes chapters they reinforce them. These guys are tragic but they’re no where near the term weak.
      Anyways this isn’t an angry comment rather a supportive comment about the Lamenters and I’ll be waiting for the video too.

    • @drxtale9446
      @drxtale9446 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@patrickiamonfire965 I have no words.

    • @hpenvy1106
      @hpenvy1106 ปีที่แล้ว

      To get from the second to the 21st founding will take some time.

  • @bearsayshet710
    @bearsayshet710 ปีที่แล้ว +113

    Lore aside, I actually really vibe with the GK aesthetic something fierce. I LOVE the sharp terminator knight heads and the wrist bolters. Genuinely some of my fave designs, shame they have such inconsistent lore :(

    • @klortikterra4423
      @klortikterra4423 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      AT LAST A FELLOW GK ENJOYER FOR THE ARMOR! HUZZA!

    • @bearsayshet710
      @bearsayshet710 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@klortikterra4423 I love the blend of middle ages plate with the grimfuture tech of 40k. It kinda feels like what the marines were going for but never quite hit for me (except for MK2-3 which are appreciated)

    • @klortikterra4423
      @klortikterra4423 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@bearsayshet710 i am a massive history nerd, and the medieval look was one of two big factors to playing them. other being they countered my dads chaos (he's been collecting since 2nd)

    • @corvidcorax
      @corvidcorax 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      MK6 helm looks a bit like a bascinet too.

  • @5555petros
    @5555petros ปีที่แล้ว +345

    While the vast majority of their Ward Era lore has been de-canonized, the damage is still very much done amongst the old guard (or anyone who joined pre-8th edition). You'll still find many people who consider the Grey Knights as nothing than a chapter of Gary Stu archetypes.

    • @Roknese
      @Roknese ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Yeah agreed. They were my chapter till Matt ward. I quit entirely and sold my Grey knights and now I play battle tech.

    • @ElJorro
      @ElJorro 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Good

    • @Mechagodzilla128
      @Mechagodzilla128 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      In your dreams maybe. Draigo 1v1 Morty and carving a name into his heart is still canon. I haven't seen evidence that any of his other feats aren't canon either.

    • @killerflamingo9566
      @killerflamingo9566 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I played against that when it came out I had chaos marines at the time

    • @Xogroroth666
      @Xogroroth666 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      There is no such a thing as "de-canonisation".
      Period.
      What once was canon, always will be canon.

  • @totalnerd5674
    @totalnerd5674 ปีที่แล้ว +313

    I have the idea that the Grey Knights are secretly not of the Emperor's Geneseed and are actually Thousand Sons. Janus was a TS after all and was their first grand master, and it would fit the whole "Everyone is a psyker" thing

    • @whysogrim697
      @whysogrim697 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Wasnt he also infused with the good shard of Magnus the Gays soul

    • @matteussilvestre8583
      @matteussilvestre8583 ปีที่แล้ว +50

      Also, during the Siege of Terra the Emperor offered Magnus a second chance to serve the Imperium, with a new Legion. Coincidence?
      Maybe.

    • @eldonte7775
      @eldonte7775 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      And the Emperor for all of his power, is a normal human, an Alpha Psyker and perpetual, but an biological human, not transhuman.

    • @totalnerd5674
      @totalnerd5674 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@matteussilvestre8583 Hey, out of curiosity, has anyone else thought of this?

    • @alastor8091
      @alastor8091 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      No flesh change though. If they were of Magnus they'd be very corruptible.

  • @tevin4006
    @tevin4006 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    Keep in Mind, the grey knights were written, concepted and "WrItTeN" by the same guy of "he who shall not be named" that made the ultramarines Gary sues until 8th edition.
    That being said, I do like that they're the inquisitions true hammers against chaos, there's some cool lore behind them (first battle of Armageddon) that is there. Like you said though, its like they're the 40k equivalent to a faction wide very, VERY bad fan-fic.

  • @encinoman903
    @encinoman903 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    I love the idea that there is a 1/100 chance that summoning a daemon will summon Caldor Draigo instead.

    • @Stannyboyyyyyy
      @Stannyboyyyyyy หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      That such funny idea. Like imagine being in their shoes.
      Y’all are a chaos cult, you’ve gotten the evening ready, Steve has brought the blood and skulls it’s gotta be great.
      Y’all get around the pentagram and say Hamana eight hundred times. Then there’s a giant flash of light. And the a great ass, sliver knight runs out, kills everyone, doesn’t elaborate, and disappears

  • @keingdougie24
    @keingdougie24 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    I can’t believe “The emperors gift” finally came out in audio form after all these years. It’s been a good summer for 40k

    • @MrZPal2099
      @MrZPal2099 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That is where I learned about them lol

  • @arionofotherworld
    @arionofotherworld ปีที่แล้ว +143

    The Grey Knights should be the very embodiment of the all that's best about the Astartes ( who are in the words of the Emperor 'the defenders of humanity' ), right down to not allowing Inquisitors to wipe out uncorrupted loyalists, sadly their writing is generally bad because it apparently has to be grimdark ( such as wiping out the sisters for no sensible reason, fighting the Space Wolves because an Inquisitor with questionable authority says so, or killing innocents who 'know too much' ).
    Much like the Custodes, they were also never conceived in the game as being an Army in their own right, originally they were meant to be a small elite unit to drop on a Greater Deamon/Avatar like a bomb for Imperial forces.

    • @edgieststalker8141
      @edgieststalker8141 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      To me they should be like the Men In Black of 40K, and I think one of the better interpretations of the grey Knights was in Chaosgate: Daemonhunters, showing them not beign lap dogs of inquisitors and actually questioning them and confronting the one in their ship, and you know, ACTUALLY SHOWING EMOTIONS!

    • @SeanCrosser
      @SeanCrosser ปีที่แล้ว +12

      The Sister Blood thing was decanonised as edgy bullshit, and are any innocents REALLY safe after exposure to daemoni fuckery?

    • @arionofotherworld
      @arionofotherworld ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@SeanCrosser I think if the baseline humans are aware that daemons are real then so too are the angels of the God Emperor, it's something to reaffirm faith when you see the deamonic foe slain by the Grey Knights, and you shouldn't be killed just for bearing witness.

    • @arionofotherworld
      @arionofotherworld ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@edgieststalker8141 I sometimes think since the Fall of Cadia they should stand in the light now rather than hide in the shadows, the Imperium needs such things to rally against chaos. I really should get around to looking at the Chaosgate game, that sounds cool.

    • @nomus1172
      @nomus1172 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@SeanCrosserthough it wasn’t really decanonized . 40k usually retcones things by replacing those moments in the old lore .
      For instance older lore said space marines were space cops .
      Now their super soldiers
      That moment where the grey knights kill the sisters hasn’t been replaced by newer lore or officially confirmed to be noncanon

  • @Streygenmoment
    @Streygenmoment ปีที่แล้ว +157

    I've always imagined the Grey Knights as having strength in between the regular Astartes and Custodes, as they are classified in lore as Sanctic Astartes instead of Adeptus Astartes, as well having tougher and more rigorous training in comparison to the other Astartes. I do understand the unappeal of having Spacier Marines that are better just because, and I do hope that their lore is written in a way to make them earn that Spacier Marines title. Hel, I'd even do it myself if I had experience writing at all lol

    • @Streygenmoment
      @Streygenmoment ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Also if it makes you feel better, the Grey Knights on tabletop are just worse than other astartes in general. They are basically a shooting army without the shooting, as their melee is alright but nothing better than anyone else's, and they have no good shooting weapons for their infantry. Their best model is the fucking Thunderhawk, and that costs over $900

    • @ruinerblodsinn6648
      @ruinerblodsinn6648 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Streygenmoment Well, if the models would be as good as they are in the lore, Custodes would win every game. So of course you have to balance it out. I really like the elite nature of the GK's. One of my favorite characters in 40k is Garran Crowe - unfortunately, there aren't too many books with these boys.

    • @Streygenmoment
      @Streygenmoment 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ruinerblodsinn6648 counter point, the army cannot fight vehicles effectively unless you spam Paladins/Chaplain combos, Librarians, or Nemesis Dreadknights. We are an Elite army without the strength of one

    • @xXREDstoneMANXx
      @xXREDstoneMANXx 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@ruinerblodsinn6648 custodians are stronger in the table top. They just have less numbers in the table top. Should of done something like that

    • @UrielVentris1984
      @UrielVentris1984 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      thier actually equal since a grey knight can increase thier strength speed and resilience beyond that of a marine. they literally bless thier bodies with battle powers, to enhance combat ability.

  • @andrewallen6860
    @andrewallen6860 ปีที่แล้ว +92

    I view Grey Knights (which I also play) as an over specialized force meant to deal with a specific threat and nothing else. Their gear is so tailored to deal with demonic forces that to be used in any other setting other than to smash demons to paste makes them look like generic space marines in overly polished war gear. Like a Grey Knight Grand Master could be using a master crafted, finely inscribed, thrice blessed, dipped in the blood of saints, thunder hammer so holy that to even look at it makes demons explode. But against orks, tau, eldar or some human that blinked when he should have ran, its just a lead weight on a stick.

    • @theodorehodbor5080
      @theodorehodbor5080 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      With that in mind it's really funny to imagine a squad of Grey Knights genuinely struggling more against a "simple" Genestealer Cult infestation over something insane like boarding a daemon-possessed ship.

    • @SeanCrosser
      @SeanCrosser ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Yeah. Against demons, their thrice-warded, perfectly honed minds are the sharpest, hottest 1000° kitchen knife.
      In front of a zoanthrope, they're fancy canned food. Losing a Librarian to brain burnout sucks, but it's even worse when the entire chapter is made up of Librarians.

    • @CoffeeMaus
      @CoffeeMaus ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I do love the idea that Grey Knights fare terrible against everything else, even though I'm pretty sure the lore states they have 3 times more plot armor than Ciaphas Cain.

    • @andrewallen6860
      @andrewallen6860 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@CoffeeMaus OH heavens no. They lost a Grand Master to Logan Grimnar during the Months of Shame exodus, they lost an entire brotherhood to Angron, They lost another to warp travel drive failure (which came back a few centuries later), and nearly lost another to gellar field failure. They got it rough.

    • @RetroRadianceLight
      @RetroRadianceLight 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@theodorehodbor5080forget genestealer cult, imagine a grey knight squad being wiped by a simple chaos cult.

  • @NapGod
    @NapGod ปีที่แล้ว +22

    The Emperor's Gift is an excellent read and now on audible for those that prefer audiobooks. It's a slower-burn than other ADB stories. I found the pacing drew me closer to the main characters such that the things they eventually see and do hit harder than the usual bolter-porn action that can be absorbed at a distance. He quite literally places the reader inside the minds of the main characters as much of the dialogue between them is done psychically. So, communication isn't just restricted to words and largely incorporates touches of images, emotions, etc. It's a good book.

  • @Hot_Garbage__
    @Hot_Garbage__ ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Have you ever eaten. A tangerine.

    • @h3vystonks690
      @h3vystonks690 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Would you like to try one?

  • @LowRentLefty
    @LowRentLefty ปีที่แล้ว +38

    Going off of you mentioning how Grey Knights are the better overall Space Marines, there is a story (I know, writers can be inconsistent with portrayals, as you mentioned) of the Grey Knights getting shit-stomped by the Space Wolves in something called the Months of Shame. It's definitely something to look into if you haven't already and kinda shows that while they are cool, at least in my opinion, they can struggle against other loyalist chapters.

    • @NF-nv3xw
      @NF-nv3xw ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Joros, the biggest shame the GK Order had ever brought to the Imperium.

    • @theodorehodbor5080
      @theodorehodbor5080 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Honestly I like how the Grey Knights are portrayed in the whole Armageddon fiasco. Instead of being uber-chads who can beat daemon primarchs on a regular basis literally almost the entire force deployed there was killed trying to banish Angron, and even then not permanently. Along with them also getting the fuck beaten out of them by the Space Wolves while the whole of the Inquisition was backing them I feel like it a lot better showed how while the Grey Knights are very good at dealing with Chaos they'll struggle against other threats, and even then when dealing with Chaos even they have limits.

    • @SeanCrosser
      @SeanCrosser ปีที่แล้ว +8

      If Grey Knights are the biggest bestest space marines who can all have Terminator Armor, here's the BIGGERER, BETTEREREST Space Wolves man who can SPRINT FULL SPEED in terminator armor and follow that up with a perfect decapitation of a Grey Knight Grandmaster!

    • @luketfer
      @luketfer 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@SeanCrosser to be fair space wolves are probably the worst chapter for any Astartes to fight just because they've been used as executioners of Space Marines for a very long time. Leman Russ even wrote an entire book on the subject of how to wipe out an Astartes Legion.
      Not to mention they're use to fighting psykers. Honestly there wouldn't be a worse match up for the Grey Knights than the Wolves.

    • @williamritchie693
      @williamritchie693 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah but space wolves are just plain murder. Anybody who tries to fight them always gets bodied.

  • @morganfragola653
    @morganfragola653 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Bro the grey knight that fell to slaanesh's corruption pulled a LEEEEEREROOOOOY JENKINS

  • @thewerdna
    @thewerdna ปีที่แล้ว +13

    "Someone wants them to be the main characters of 40k" - Matt Ward. It was Matt Ward

    • @RetroRadianceLight
      @RetroRadianceLight 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I thought the Ultramarines were Matt Ward Gary Stus

    • @thewerdna
      @thewerdna 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@RetroRadianceLight he did both. They both were powers by Matt Ward

    • @SWProductions100
      @SWProductions100 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@thewerdna
      To be fair, Ward also worked on the Necrons 5th edition - the one that turned the Necrons from 'scary emotionless robots' to 'bickering Egyptian robots.'
      Your opinion on that change could vary, but that codex also introduced all the big Necron characters we know today - the Silent King, the forgetful Zandrekh, and even Trazyn the Infinite

  • @rottenmeat5934
    @rottenmeat5934 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    Grey Knights are fine, just not in GW’s hands.

    • @RetroRadianceLight
      @RetroRadianceLight 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I wish GW would decanonize the grey knights

    • @UrielVentris1984
      @UrielVentris1984 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      they are here to stay bud and likely more lore too.@@RetroRadianceLight

    • @42smash36
      @42smash36 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      they should make female grey knight

  • @jamesf3871
    @jamesf3871 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    Say what you will about the Grey Knights, but their armor is simply incredible. They are a royal pain in the ass to paint well, but when they are done right, very few armies can match their look on the tabletop.
    Lore-wise, yes they are kind of all over the place. But I think it’s fitting that they did pick up a “Primarch” in the Horus Heresy Lore: the Noble Shard of Magnus.

  • @15DEAN1995
    @15DEAN1995 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    No one can get through a grey knights video without mentioning "that" sisters moment

    • @SeanCrosser
      @SeanCrosser ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It was such a stupid, edgy thing. Makes zero sense to slaughter incorruptible sisters to fight demons instead of... just fighting demons with them.
      Nemesis Force Weapon +1 or a squad of highly devout, furious women bearing bolters and flamers that could hold off enemy advance while you huddle up for a banishment ritual? Silly question, stupid choice.

    • @duskzer0816
      @duskzer0816 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I has hat

  • @themangix357
    @themangix357 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    3:13 Kitten be like "It's NOT CANON!"

  • @inductivegrunt94
    @inductivegrunt94 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The Grey Knights are cool in concept, but dumb in execution and inconsistent in lore.
    I still prefer the Blood Ravens for the role of Loyalist Psychic bois.
    Nathaniel Garro is still better than Kaldor Draigo. No cap. He just is.

    • @Bread-nx9fo
      @Bread-nx9fo ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Blood Ravens are OGs, just ignore the third dawn of war game and they stay awesome.

  • @TheGreatAukGaming
    @TheGreatAukGaming ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Can't wait for carcharadons!

  • @thewretchedpleb7484
    @thewretchedpleb7484 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Grey Knights were my favorite when I first got into the lore but I think Imperial Fists and Black Templars will always be my real favorite chapters. I really like the Salamanders, Iron Warriors and Blood Ravens as well. Most legions or chapters are pretty easy to get behind.
    But I guess i just like the I.F. and B.T. for personal reasons.
    Fists embody the calmness and objectivity I wish to aspire to and the Templars wrestle most directly with the bottomless well of rage that resides in them all.
    I know none of that is about GK but tbh my favorite thing about them is how they're represented in TTS, especially Draigo xD

    • @genefactor007
      @genefactor007 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Haha! I'm glad I'm not the only one who's a fan of multiple chapters. Hell, I'm sure this is the norm but being new to the community, it's still cool to see. My favs are the Salamanders, Raven Guard, and Dark Angels.

    • @thewretchedpleb7484
      @thewretchedpleb7484 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@genefactor007 Nice, man! Welcome to the community :D Yeah as far as I can tell most people like multiple factions, even if they don't play multiple or dive as deep into the lore. For a long time I was a total Imperium fanboy, but got into some chaos factions and the necrons. An' den derez da ORKS (deyz da best)
      Dark Angels and Raven guard are cool as hell too! Really there aren't many chapters I dislike, off the top of my head. There's a lot of surface level stuff and good/bad jokes about most factions. But there's something for just about everyone in Warhammer :)

  • @MrBenMcLean
    @MrBenMcLean ปีที่แล้ว +19

    The Grey Knights are essentially just loyalist Thousand Sons. Their gene seed obviously comes from Magnus despite what the lore says, because the Emperor clearly doesn't have gene seed since he's neither a Primarch nor even an Astartes and only Magnus's gene seed has the properties of the Grey Knights, making almost all recipients into psykers. The Grey Knights aren't (or shouldn't be) the best at everything: they're just the best psykers among the Space Marines, with an exclusive focus on fighting Chaos, especially demons, and that's all. If you really like the Thousand Sons but you want to play loyalists then the Grey Knights are your guys. GW / Black Library needs to get somebody on the Grey Knights who knows how to write. They look amazing and just need some better stories about them.

  • @lunardeathblade2570
    @lunardeathblade2570 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I enjoy the theory that each Supreme Grand Master of the Grey Knights hosts the Noble Shard of Magnus. Instead of the shard having died along with Janus, it just possessed the next Supreme Grand Master and continues to do so. Which would give at least some plausibility to how Kaldor Draigo could have gone up against Mortarion.

  • @The_Crimson_Fucker
    @The_Crimson_Fucker 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    The Gray Knights used to be my favorite...when they were a mysterious super-special anti-demon taskforce, basically when the lore actually treated them like an actual secret.
    They stopped being cool when Kaldor Drago beat all of Chaos and they got issued Tactical Baby Carriers. Now I like Guardsmen.

  • @Tokumastu1
    @Tokumastu1 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    These lads can also be such a tragic bunch. Their recruitment comes from taking members from other chapters and further breaking them down mentally and physically just to remake them into stronger warriors. So you're taking someone that was already broken down and had parts of their personality burned away to make a super soldier and you're doing it again, but more brutally. Poor knights don't even have memories of their childhood, if their lucky they have faint echoes of their past. In the hands of more competent writers we could have some very interesting stories, sadly more often than not the Greryknights feel like either like diet Custodes or jobbers in order to highlight just how strong a daemon ,or daemon prince, is.

    • @Miron_Marnic
      @Miron_Marnic ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Where did you find this information???

    • @Tokumastu1
      @Tokumastu1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Miron_Marnic its part of their lore. If you want a more indepth dive luetin has a vid on how Greyknight training works.

    • @Eagle-eye-pie
      @Eagle-eye-pie ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Miron_Marnicin the 8th and 9th addition codex’s, it states that Grey Knights recruit from all manner of Imperial worlds, barbaric worlds, Black Ships, civilised worlds and also the recruiting worlds of the Astartes, often without their knowledge. Some chapters, notably The Exorcists and The Silver Skulls identify certain of the own recruits in whom the Grey Knights may show an interest and offer them over. It’s not clear how far down the road these recruits have gone before being transferred.

    • @Miron_Marnic
      @Miron_Marnic ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Eagle-eye-pie Alright. I knew that the GK recruit from basically the entire Imperium, but I didn't know that the Astartes homeworlds also count. But still, they have the Emperor's own gene seed, so it is not possible to make an aspirant with some organs implanted a Grey Knight. Or maybe they can. I don't know, it is the inquisition after all.

    • @Eagle-eye-pie
      @Eagle-eye-pie ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Miron_Marnic I couldn’t find any indication that the recruits taken from Astartes worlds had received any implants or especially any gene seed before being taken. As you say, this wouldn’t make sense anyway, so it should be assumed the recruits are at an early stage of recruitment imo. The real trials begin on Titan!

  • @etiennegarant7545
    @etiennegarant7545 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This reminds me of an old-ish SsethTzeentach video where he was browsing Sonic OC characters and there it was, Terminus, the Knight of Endings, literally a Grey Knight, which got as edgy as you can imagine.

  • @AAZ-yu5ss
    @AAZ-yu5ss 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Grey Knights are the only 40k faction I genuinely wish would be Squatted from the entire setting.

  • @starkill97
    @starkill97 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I love the grey knights I think them being "better" then other Astartes comes down to the fact that they are all space wizards with all the positives and negatives that entails
    I can see in a fucked up way why they can kill greater daemons far easier then normal heretic Astarte's since their gear is designed to hunt Daemons, It makes sense they can crush daemons that normal marines would struggle against but have a far harder time killing normal traitors since they special anti daemon gear is far less effective.
    I kind of like that since it makes them seem like the specialists they are meant to be rather then just better space marines

    • @SeanCrosser
      @SeanCrosser ปีที่แล้ว +3

      A custodes remarks that without them being psykers (since they were fighting alongside Custodes, and therefore Sisters Of Silence), they're JUUUST a bit better than standard Astartes in combat, due to their focus in teamwork, and working together in small groups against hordes is practically their schtick.
      I doubt they could hold a siege as well as Imperial Fists, do taxes like Ultramarines, or sneak behind you like Raven Guard, though.

  • @joemiller361
    @joemiller361 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Drago is the Shadow to Catos Sonic, and you know it.

  • @natanaelsantos3924
    @natanaelsantos3924 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wacky Nonsense basically descrips the entire franchise

  • @carcionpetto
    @carcionpetto ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I love the aesthetic, especially in the artworks since the minis are kinda outdated with those bulimic thigh, and I don't really see them as just another chapter but better. I like how their psychic trait is more oriented towards channeling it through their weird weapons or in a defensive way, while having the classical sorcery represented better in the thousand sons. I'm ok with there being a top secret psychic chapter that excels against daemons and as a result are on average better than other SM. Too bad their lore is all over the place and mostly sucks.

  • @nick0875
    @nick0875 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Another case of why trying to powerscale anything in 40k is a futile effort. Each BL and Codex writer is working off their own headcanon on that and GW doesn't care as long as the models sell. Characters are as powerful as the plot needs them to be which gets crazy with the authors that dont understand the meaning of restraint.
    Which isn't helped by the fact that there are several characters who are essentially immortal so them getting beaten doesn't change anything major. The Avatar of Khaine, Grearer Daemons, Daemon Primarchs and the Tyranid Swarmlord all have enough notable losses to put a sizeable dent in their perceived threat level.

  • @dralcatraz-gu7up
    @dralcatraz-gu7up 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    8:17 hopped up on ground up eldar warpstone crack. my gods this guy is hilarious!

  • @RetroRadianceLight
    @RetroRadianceLight 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I wished that GW had balanced out the Grey Knights as being the most corruptable astartes due to being knee deep in demon stuff all the time. And that corrupted grey knights being some of the most dangerous type of chaos marines to fight. Kind of like the Hunters from Bloodborne. It would turn them from Gary Stus to being extreme double edge swords for the imperium to use.

  • @myonlyfriendtheend4958
    @myonlyfriendtheend4958 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Chaos gate was actually a pretty fun game with a good story it was written by adb who wrote the night lords trilogy

  • @pepethefallenmemelord3908
    @pepethefallenmemelord3908 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have yet to see a TH-camr make a video of specifically successor chapters of each legion. Good job mr bones

  • @h3vystonks690
    @h3vystonks690 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    “Ever eaten a tangerine? Would you like to try one?”

  • @TheNerindil
    @TheNerindil ปีที่แล้ว +12

    There are a few armies in 40K that really should just be units in other army’s books. Gray Knights are the most egregious examples of that.

  • @bourneco
    @bourneco 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    i am compelled to say hi back to you every time you introduce yourself in a video.
    thank you for your efforts arthur.

  • @Arnisboy
    @Arnisboy ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Grey Knights are "the hammer blow of the Ordo Malleus" -- I see what you did there

  • @IanB.2022
    @IanB.2022 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    For my Halloween costume, I am gonna wear skeleton Pajamas, and a Grey Knight helmet that I am making myself.

  • @seangrey
    @seangrey 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nathaniel ''my sword is long, my balls are heavy'' Garro. lol

  • @wolflordgio6320
    @wolflordgio6320 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    They like to think they’re better until they Run into Space Wolves and Salamanders.

    • @RetroRadianceLight
      @RetroRadianceLight 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I feel like Space Wolves are just as much Gary Stus as Wardian Era Ultramarines or Grey Knights

  • @sharlockshacolmes9381
    @sharlockshacolmes9381 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Greyknights in a nutshell: "what if space knights but more knights... and with magic"

  • @TwistedMajora
    @TwistedMajora ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You should discuss the Carcharodon chapter. But otherwise the Black Templar would make for a fun episode.

  • @unclesamlore
    @unclesamlore ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Grey knights when written well and in concept are super cool, but the way they are portrayed seem like that one kid at recess with an anti everything shield.

  • @xs10chil_dre-d
    @xs10chil_dre-d 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    "Yes! I am comparing Grey Knights to Sonichu".....
    My sides have gone into the warp XD

  • @BlueSatoshi
    @BlueSatoshi ปีที่แล้ว +1

    7:15 I see you've discovered Ward.

  • @jumpysniper
    @jumpysniper ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Grey knights just always called to me as Gray Knight has been my handle for many things for years before I even heard about them, and they're just really cool with their paladin aesthetic, and well, paladins, another thing I've been a big fan of. Castellan Crowe is a BAMF, and also nearly saved me in a game I played against my friend playing nids with his fight on death and repeat nearly wiping a unit on his own. His fuck you I'm the most uncorruptible deal with it, this insanely powerful sword with a demon inside it constantly trying to turn me and everyone around me to chaos, ya it's just a regular ass sword in my hand because I refuse to give in and use it. He's the best.

  • @CorrodedFilms
    @CorrodedFilms ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You should do a video on what happened to the countries on terra

  • @strat550
    @strat550 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Honestly I like the Grey Knights because futuristic super soldiers in knight armour fighting demons with power swords is a really cool aesthetic. The main problem with them is how they were/are handled in the lore with their main character stndrome and such. But still I personally just think having a middle ground between space marines and custodes being neat, partly justified with their niche being nigh uncorruptable psykers whose job it is to fight demons but... I understand other people's disliking of them since the space marines but better part of them does add to the "im specihul" aura around them. Do I have a point or am I just an outlier?

  • @Lancersilva
    @Lancersilva ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Have you ever had a tangerine?

  • @lonecolamarine
    @lonecolamarine 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My new canon for the GKs is that Kaldor Draigo is impeccably stupid and insane, and prone to random fits of screaming.
    "HAVE YOU EVER EATEN... A TANGERINE??!"

  • @ckl9390
    @ckl9390 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    That bit where they struggled against a plague marine when they could normally defeat a greater demon with little difficulty may be an example of the perils of overspecialisation. They're too good at fighting demons that they are ill-equipped for even proxies for demons.

  • @gmanplaysgames256
    @gmanplaysgames256 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thematically cool but not always interesting on their own, Grey Knights are, however, the catalyst for more than one interesting story centered around another faction, like when the Space Wolves punched them in the face over killing a planet they just fought and bled to defend, or the Fall of Shadowbrink where they fail outright ad get eaten by Tyranids because they were so worried about the Daemon relic they were guarding cracking open, only for the bugs to easily defeat the Daemons and banish them back to the Warp pretty much by accident.

  • @crisr.8280
    @crisr.8280 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I thought you would make a quip like "the 50 shades of grey knight power levels with how inconsistent they are" or something like that.

  • @mediocremouse405
    @mediocremouse405 ปีที่แล้ว

    And sonichu is exactly why exterminatas is not just advised but the reasonable step

  • @TYPHON13KTA
    @TYPHON13KTA ปีที่แล้ว +2

    First you diss my beloved Space Wolves, and now you diss my beloved Grey Knights tooo???? I hate you... But i like your style and content. I always look forward to your uploads!!!

  • @brexthompson
    @brexthompson ปีที่แล้ว +1

    listen all you need to know is that they'll provide the hams

  • @bunnydexter7178
    @bunnydexter7178 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I happened to view your social and i must say. I love oatmeal and his derpy little face🥰

  • @shoelessking6286
    @shoelessking6286 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Looking like the deathwatch is the clear choice for the 11th video.

  • @Reaper9-4
    @Reaper9-4 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    To fight the insanity of chaos you must become insane yourself - grey knight's most likely.
    And oh their "primarch" is the emperor, same as the shiny golden boys.

  • @Dasacht095
    @Dasacht095 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    My first real interaction with GK's was chaosgate daemonhunter, where it fekt harder to deal with marines than it did daemons. You can bench press that plaguebearer but you gotta use true xcom tactics against deathguard.
    I really like how their task force in Angron's Ark of Omen book was described too.
    Very much so a "oh hey GK's are here!....oh fuck gk's are here what the fuck is coming"
    They showed up are preparing for Angron and theres nowhere where i felt like that was not a serious notion

  • @ivanivanovic5586
    @ivanivanovic5586 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The one thing I really dislike about them is the "remove those who shouldn't know about us" bit(the novel of hyperion does redeem this part a bit). Also the matt ward treatment(1d4chan hates him with a passion). Speaking of 1d4, they're at odds deciding who's the chuck norris of war40k, draigo or logan grimnar(I'd vote for latter). Still, they do have a good trilogy (and few short stories), in said trilogy book 2, there's a cool moment where protagonist trades wits with a demon titan no less (book 3 was a shake up but with a reasonable ending), check it out if able.

    • @Bread-nx9fo
      @Bread-nx9fo ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It's obviously Sly Marbo, he can solo the entire armies of chaos if he felt like it.

    • @mizublackriver7021
      @mizublackriver7021 ปีที่แล้ว

      What's the trilogy name?

    • @ivanivanovic5586
      @ivanivanovic5586 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mizublackriver7021 It's just called Grey Knights (book 1 called as such, book 2 is dark adeptus, book 3 hammer of daemons). There's also prequel Sacrifice(it's quite...grimdark), and the Emperor's Gift (novel where you follow guy called Hyperion(who becomes prognosticator later) during the 1st war for armageddon (he breaks angron's old demon sword) and the "months of shame"(he brokers the truce between inquisition and space wolves)).

    • @ivanivanovic5586
      @ivanivanovic5586 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Bread-nx9fo Oh yeah, completely forgot about him, he's actually the top contender for the chuck norris, grimnar close second(also santa, bcs of wolf sled he uses).

  • @JellyFish728
    @JellyFish728 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    All Lore issues aside, the aesthetic of the Grey Knights design is my absolute favorite. The Silver armor and unique helmets just looks so amazing. Along with the glowing blue Halberds, they just look so damn badass!

  • @rickeyheard4454
    @rickeyheard4454 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like it when the funny greay space marine shows up and removes my brain bits from the soul bits

  • @jkellyid
    @jkellyid 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I like grey knights as a faction for the same reason I like the custodes. They are just so unique.
    Sure they have some bad dysfunctional lore, but this is GW, everything has some of that.
    The army plays with a heavy inflection of lore flavor that is more pronounced particularly in 10 th than other sm fractions.

  • @amshi9835
    @amshi9835 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    GOTTA LOVE HOW U CAN SEE HIS SELF CONFIDENCE IN THE OPENING RISE BY EVERY VIDEO

  • @andrewmaderer1989
    @andrewmaderer1989 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That title is certainly some fighting words

  • @blackwolf671
    @blackwolf671 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    As a player that really got into 40k in 5th, Grey knights have for a long time left a sour taste in my mind. Their the sort of army I would never want to own and thats its honestly only within the last few months that Iv gradually started to soften on them. ..that boarding patrol box was actually tempting.
    A restaurant will be judged by the worst cook in the kitchen, One bad meal and you'll never go back to that restaurant again. 40ks has a big kitchen with a lot of cooks. Ward was, even looking back years later after the hate and the memes have burned down to bitter coals, a pretty bad cook. But that doesn't mean those other cooks didn't put out some amazing dishes. Its been a long while, and that chef that gave everybody on /tg/ diarrhea years ago is gone. It might be time to see what somebody else can do with that recipe.

    • @EugenTemba
      @EugenTemba 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      True

  • @arnantphongsatha7906
    @arnantphongsatha7906 ปีที่แล้ว

    Banishers of low quality razor blades, eaters of tangerines.

  • @TheFirstVonGunther
    @TheFirstVonGunther ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Grey Knights would do better with a Night Haunter style scribe system

  • @meganobgutzkraka2398
    @meganobgutzkraka2398 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I LIKE the idea of the greyknights, BUT as the idea that they are the best to use against daemons...as they were made for.
    like yes army wise, tech wise, gene wise, psychic wise they are one of if not THE best space marine chapter to exist ever...there's really only one group of marines that can compete with them and that's thousand sons, and even there the comparison is just a wizard duel and daemonology mastery
    AND THATS WHERE IT SHOULD BE. Grey Knights are the guys you send out for a daemon prince, a daemon primarch, a daemon world ect ect... if it has anything to do with a large scale daemonic influence the GK's should show up and just be absolute monsters WITH THE CAVEAT that because of their secrecy, and their elitism, the numbers they bring in...like the tabletop, are fewer than other responses.

  • @NicholasVernem-GroovyNickyLee
    @NicholasVernem-GroovyNickyLee 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    "What do you think about the Grey Knights?"
    I don't. Nice try, Inquisitor.

  • @tomarmadiyer2698
    @tomarmadiyer2698 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One branch for tau women simps, one branch for slaaneshi demon simps
    Slaanussy

  • @theyawningowlbear6758
    @theyawningowlbear6758 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My sword is long, my balls are heavy...Garro. 😂😂😂😂😂

  • @hankvirus9305
    @hankvirus9305 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    They look cool. The Sonichu point is funny.

  • @geronimo8159
    @geronimo8159 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "They're bureaucrats, Morty, we don't respect them!"
    I like the part in the lore where Logan Grimnar kicked some of their shiny asses...
    The Knight Errants were cool though...

  • @fva1835
    @fva1835 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    In Chaos Gate Daemonhunter. Morty still seething about the heart carving XD.

  • @AverageIrishDude
    @AverageIrishDude ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You should do a video on black shields or the sharterd legions

  • @themocaw
    @themocaw 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The problem with the Grey Knight is that the Adeptus Custodes exist now, and the Custodes really do the whole "Hyper Elite Super Marines" thing better than the Grey Knights ever did. And I say this as someone who fucking loves the Grey Knights. Mostly because I'm a huge fan of the Paladin archetype in fiction, and the Grey Knights are all about that paladin archetype, from their helmets that resemble knightly great helms, to their whole "shining silver armor" aesthetic.
    If I were writing these guys, I'd lean into the idea that these are Traitor Legion Marines who chose to stay Loyalist, and give them a complex about this that leads to them seeking martyrdom even more than other Astartes. Every Grey Knight knows that they are kin to traitors, and every other Astartes does too. They should specialize in fighting Warp Entities (Daemons, Psykers, etc.), but struggle against horde armies due to their focus on slaying monsters and sorcerers.
    If I were in charge of the next Grey Knight codex. . . I wouldn't write one. I'd fold them into the Inquisition Codex instead, and move their HQ units to elites or something similar, so that every Grey Knight army needs to be led by an Inquisitor. Make them an MEQ troops option for Inquisition armies or something.

  • @thepolishlithuaniancommonw8986
    @thepolishlithuaniancommonw8986 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It totally makes sense the grey knights would be better on average than most other space marines it’s like comparing tier 3 special forces to tier 1 special forces they are both great but one is better

  • @DaniDeFig
    @DaniDeFig ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have the Sonic OC issue you brought up, but with Custodes.
    They're just too obviously Golden Special Best Space Marines. "Each hand-crafted by athe Emperor himself!"
    It turns me off completley.
    I don't have that with The Grey Knights, so this was interesting :)
    Maybe becuse I never engaged in specific stories of thier lore? Perhaps I DO see them as having a niche that they excell at?
    (The Chaos Gate game has also recently reinforced how BADLY outnumbered they always are. Always vulnerable. Every mission is one mistake away from losing the whole squad)

  • @moafwaz5563
    @moafwaz5563 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I like the helmets of the grey knights

  • @EpicFiddleGuy
    @EpicFiddleGuy ปีที่แล้ว

    "They cannot lose."
    Logan Grimnar would like a word.

  • @TacticalReaper56
    @TacticalReaper56 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Jesus the bloody sisters story is very unhinged lol. Like im all for horror and descimating a readers brain with terrible acts of war. But that felt far fetched asf.

    • @thewerdna
      @thewerdna ปีที่แล้ว

      Its even worse because you know who they were fighting? Khorne daemons. Totally, killing your allies and covering yourself in your blood will totally help with that...

  • @sneedmando186
    @sneedmando186 ปีที่แล้ว

    Other Vids: *HI! i’m ARTHUR!*
    This vid: *hi. I’M arthur.*

  • @Channel-23s
    @Channel-23s ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Death Watch certainly are a weaker but cooler version of the grey knights but both have weird rules with the great rift and Gullimen and Lion back here’s hoping they fight out in the open

  • @Volcano22207
    @Volcano22207 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Don’t forget the one time caldor drago ended up in the warhammer fantasy end times

  • @warhounds
    @warhounds ปีที่แล้ว

    Mr Bones wants to cover all 2nd founding:
    proceeds to talk about the fallen and grey knights

  • @Baconlazer
    @Baconlazer 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I liked the Grey Knights lore that was back in 3.5 edition Daemonhunters codex, it was more grounded ( like every 1 to 1000 human survive the Geneseed implantation like every other Space Marine Chapter ) and was less cartoony that it is today. They had that mysterious but rad af vibe to them up to the point where M.Ward self written himself in the GK's lore.
    To say that Guilliman was to all Space Marines their spiritual liege was catastrophic mistake on a memeable level was the overstatement for many years.

  • @Arex778
    @Arex778 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The secret to liking Grey knights is not knowing much about grey knights.

  • @maxneedham1384
    @maxneedham1384 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What I learned. Grey nights = Sonichu

  • @kennethquinnies6023
    @kennethquinnies6023 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just imagine the waste of about 1 million candidates to make just one Grey Knight

  • @Kohl293
    @Kohl293 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    8:31 they basically just turned up to lay the smack down on Typhus the traveler, who got like 3-4 of them before a Grand Master took him down

  • @isenhertor
    @isenhertor ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i guess the -death guards- deathwatch would be next ?

  • @fluffywolfo3663
    @fluffywolfo3663 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nevar forget:
    The Grey Knights are the one of the only reasons some people see the Space Wolves as (almost) Reasonable Marines.