Top Characters RESISTANT to Powercreep in Honkai Star Rail (Historical Analysis)

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  • @davidsczepanik72
    @davidsczepanik72 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +242

    Thank you for mentioning the color blind folks, the struggle is real. I love your videos and break downs.

  • @Hannah_idk
    @Hannah_idk 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +382

    15:45 I think the reason why Seele spiked up here because of Fu Xuan, everyone was talking about mono quantum because there's now a quantum sustainer, that being fu xuan

    • @B1izs
      @B1izs 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

      Lynx was on the same banner as fu xuan too I’m pretty sure so double quantum sustainers

    • @luizotavio44
      @luizotavio44 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      ​@@B1izs And with sparkle coming double quantum is even stronger

    • @kikidffo8963
      @kikidffo8963 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yeah sparkle has changed that especially if you don't need sliver wolf

    • @Saryn.
      @Saryn. 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@kikidffo8963 Seele, Sparkle, RM, and FX goes crazy

    • @undeniablySomeGuy
      @undeniablySomeGuy 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Not if you dont need silverwolf. I think she has a way bigger impact on situations where you do need silverwolf. Before you had to hope that the enemy was weak to your 4th slot element, but with sparkle you have true monoq

  • @fuyutsukirai
    @fuyutsukirai 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +334

    Bro really dropped the best characters to pull for the long run and thought we wouldn't notice.

    • @fuyutsukirai
      @fuyutsukirai 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

      WTF BRO REALLY DID MAKE A VIDEO ABOUT IT

    • @hayond656
      @hayond656 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      ​@@fuyutsukirai Your profile picture is very fitting

    • @nonamepasserbya6658
      @nonamepasserbya6658 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      No he doesn't, the only character that is immune to powercreep is pre nerf Blade and no way Mihoyo would let you use a 1 man army in a turn based game

    • @fuyutsukirai
      @fuyutsukirai 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Who

    • @Grayewick
      @Grayewick 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@nonamepasserbya6658 Blade was "nerfed"? 💀

  • @Betsuni_Kagami
    @Betsuni_Kagami 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +655

    Seele probably got the boost to use in the Daniel section because the insects dropped and they're all Quantum weak.

    • @Justme-jp8ih
      @Justme-jp8ih 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Its DanIL not "Daniel"

    • @samplebample1194
      @samplebample1194 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ah yes, not like a good bit of the EN community online calls him daniel for the fun of it@@Justme-jp8ih

    • @Zilla010
      @Zilla010 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +200

      ​@@Justme-jp8ihcool i like daniel too

    • @Justme-jp8ih
      @Justme-jp8ih 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@Zilla010 daniel is a stupid name and doesnt even fit him

    • @rosebudwannabe
      @rosebudwannabe 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +156

      @@Justme-jp8ih Let people enjoy things.

  • @Lightning0803
    @Lightning0803 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +261

    One thing i am surprised with this video is that Yan Qing never get memtioned and bullied, which is rarely happened, what a respect

    • @hypemaddox
      @hypemaddox 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +118

      You cant powercreep something that wasnt good to begin with

    • @xenoemblem7
      @xenoemblem7 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      @@hypemaddoxThat means Yanqing isn't bad. A win in my book

    • @Helperishere
      @Helperishere 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +63

      ​@@xenoemblem7 his dmg isn't bad. His kit however is. His dmg is locked behind his passive being up. When Aventurine comes out he will be his absolute best support. Helps him in almost every single way. Makes him a budget Jingliu

    • @hypemaddox
      @hypemaddox 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@Helperishere Looking at aventurines kit he is gonna be a better dps than yanqing in that team, like tbh unless you like him aint no one gonna be using him over ratio

    • @Helperishere
      @Helperishere 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@hypemaddox Well obviously yeah but people who want to use him will need Aventurine to make it 10x easier.
      Like with Arland and Fu Xuan.

  • @ittehitteh9322
    @ittehitteh9322 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +127

    ice and imaginary weaknesses every where which contributes to imbibitor and jingliu high usage. perhaps also showing the weaknesses of the last 2 floors of each moc would also help with explaining the dps usage rates

    • @isaac-p6126
      @isaac-p6126 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      Well beside that Jingliu is just insanely strong tho.

    • @Josh-qt5zi
      @Josh-qt5zi 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Watch Archeon and Sam be the imbibitor and Jingliu of 2.x

    • @isaac-p6126
      @isaac-p6126 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@Josh-qt5zi I sure hope so. We need more versitility in hypercarry.

    • @ittehitteh9322
      @ittehitteh9322 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@isaac-p6126 yea and theres no other ice dps available

    • @ittehitteh9322
      @ittehitteh9322 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Josh-qt5zi a change in elemental weakness would be nice

  • @sasaegn
    @sasaegn 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +50

    0:31 Bronya
    2:52 Tingyun
    3:39 Pela
    5:06 Clara
    6:25 Sustain Characters
    13:17 Damage Dealers
    21:47 Utility / Sub DPS
    24:58 Limted 5* (FX, LF, JL, SW, HH)

    • @sasaegn
      @sasaegn 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      time stamps for my reference
      and thank you so much for this informational video! will be checking out your other content 🙏🏻👆🏻👊🏻👍🏻

    • @user-hs1lv1kh3s
      @user-hs1lv1kh3s 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you so much

    • @m.ridzwan99-26
      @m.ridzwan99-26 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@sasaegnthank you🫡

  • @Otaku-420
    @Otaku-420 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +105

    I've used Fire MC since day 1 in my main party. I recently got Clara with the free picker after 300 standard pulls. Clara can put out a hell of a lot more damage but Fire MC just doesn't die. Powercreep or not, the fact that MC can add/refresh shields on every party member, every turn, with any action, and let's not forget taunt, still puts him near the top of my list of favorite characters to use.

    • @aomafura3374
      @aomafura3374 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What are your stats like?

    • @jaykhobrekar3619
      @jaykhobrekar3619 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      That is why I love fire mc. They might not be a meta character but they help so much in clearing content we should die on

    • @rabbits2345
      @rabbits2345 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I used my free pick on Clara too! If you have her signature light cone, she is really tanky even without def investment thanks to the small heal on her LC and her permanent damage reduction passive. For really hard content, I use fire MC and try to get the one destruction buff where everyone shares damage, which goes perfect with the small teamwide shields

    • @djentmas867
      @djentmas867 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Fire MC has gotten a massive boost for me due to the Burn LC and how well it pairs with Kafka or BS. Her ult with the BP LC is very strong in pure fiction. Not needing a 100% sustain/healer helps a lot in Pure fiction too, cuz they can wipe out the smaller adds easily while providing shield just enough to keep you alive from the smaller attacks.

    • @djentmas867
      @djentmas867 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Clara on the other hand, i rock her with pure dps build. I dont have Argenti. She is a monster against enemies you wouldnt expect and also pairs really well with both Topaz or Xueyi. Every counter she does vs a phys weak enemy gives Xueyi 1 stack, which cheats the system in a way and no other character can do that for her. Absolutely broken characters that are highly undervalued if you look at what they can actually do and not just look at 100% tank

  • @malificajones7674
    @malificajones7674 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +99

    This was a fascinating analysis, well done!
    Having played from the start of HSR, it was interesting to see how new 5* made old characters obsolete. I remember benching Fire MC, Natasha, and March 7th when Luocha was released, because he could sustain one team on his own, while Bailu + Gepard sustained team 2. Then as soon as Fu Xuan was released, Bailu + Gepard got benched.
    Funnily enough, I dusted off Gepard yesterday toteam up with Fu Xuan on the higher levels of Gold and Gears. I don't think it's possible to complete that without running double sustain, so it was fun to use him again.

    • @Dark-hw7rt
      @Dark-hw7rt 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Works well enough until you start going into conundrums. For me personally I found it best to just drop any sustain units and run either another harmony or debuffer. Especially if you're doing anything higher than c8. I'll usually run bailu at the start just for the revive and swap her out during boss fights.

    • @CrimsonKobaNakirigumi
      @CrimsonKobaNakirigumi 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Makes you think of in the future there will be a character that will bench your Fu Xuan and Gepard by sustaining by himself

  • @riceboy2104
    @riceboy2104 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +104

    i think its good to mention in the sustain category was that the reason why the free sustains got such a huge dip in usage was because of lynx being in fu xuans banner, there was practically no reason why anyone would use natasha or the more readily available sustains anymore since even if they got unlucky or needed another sustain on second team, they could just use lynx. Im expecting another dip in usage now that she is in pure fiction.

    • @ak-sony
      @ak-sony 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      Exactly! Talk about powercreep in sustain characters without talk about Lynx was a mistake, Lynx is the main reeason why 4 star sustain really died, she finish what Luocha starts.

    • @Beldhan
      @Beldhan 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@ak-sony honestly it's more if you look at lynx, she do everything that natasha do and more. natasha have litterally nothing better than Lynx. Natasha need a rework for give her something that will make her stand out.... right now she is too weak.

    • @someoneinasia
      @someoneinasia 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      lynx powercrept both natasha and bailu.

    • @JGDGkot
      @JGDGkot 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      As someone who was very excited for Lynx I must say that I did that.
      That said ironically enough I use Natasha more, as the investment that she requires to sustain a team is just isn't worth it, when Natasha can just do the job with just temporary Relics and being under leveled.

    • @WestProZ17
      @WestProZ17 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Fu Xuan is just broken.

  • @nello7466
    @nello7466 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    Thank you so much! As a new player I am confused which characters are meta, because many guides are not very up to date. This helped a lot how the game has evolved.

  • @banir3736
    @banir3736 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +82

    You should also address the weakness seasons. Like Jingliu and Pela or Ruan Mei being ised more is because of the weakness of Ice being g there recently

    • @victorb5
      @victorb5 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Was going to mention this as well. Seele not getting used as much since there haven't been much Quantum challenges in MOC or Pure Fiction, at least to my memory.

  • @senyormamak3098
    @senyormamak3098 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +69

    As an engineer i love seeing analytical stuff like this.
    Since the first day I had Luocha, he is never unused in MoC & SU. Being the only healer in the game that provides a 'Lifesteal' style of healing, I believe he will stay very relevant in the game for a looong time. His kit (to me at least) provides more control and predictability to healing my party members due to him not requiring his ult or turn to provide the healing.

    • @ravebae
      @ravebae 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Do you prefer him over huo huo? My only sustain rn is fu xuan and lynx and im either saving up for luocha or huo huo

    • @lolhaha0526
      @lolhaha0526 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      ​@@ravebae You can get huohuo if you also need a buffer

    • @heron619
      @heron619 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@ravebae My Blade uses S5 Secret Vow so he needs to stay at a low health to do optimal damage which means Luocha's auto heal is not ideal for me so I'm saving up for a Huohuo rerun which is also BiS for Dot teams.

    • @ravebae
      @ravebae 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@heron619ohhh perfect I love DOT teams so good to know thank you!!

    • @Onixon777
      @Onixon777 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@ravebaeдруг, почитай и про Авантюрина. Возможно он тоже будет хорошим защитником.

  • @Static-EN-
    @Static-EN- 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +39

    Honkai Impact 3rd players laughing at this "powercreep"

    • @somedude077
      @somedude077 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Don't they release the same character with a new skin, new kit, same weapon all the time. The characters powercreep themselves.

  • @BloodyHowl69
    @BloodyHowl69 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    bronya was used less in beginning due to lack of accessibility. doesn't pertain just to me, but I recently had the 300 pull a couple months ago which I used to get her.

  • @wikidpsycokilla
    @wikidpsycokilla 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    So far, starting with Ruan mei, all of the new characters have had good synergy with pre-existing characters. Ruan Mei increases the value of any break oriented characters like Luka and Himeko, Dr. Ratio does the same for debuffers like Silverwolf, Guinaifen and especially Topaz, Black Swan and Kafka is insane, and Sparkle will do the same for Seele, QQ and DHIL. With the recent difficulty spike making the investment required to brute force off element incredibly high, this pattern of new+old having synergy as well as the ability to directly affect meta through enemy weakness seems to be decently effective at combating power creep.

  • @ocw5178
    @ocw5178 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Super fascinating to see the chart. Keep up the great content!

  • @FrozenIncurrsion
    @FrozenIncurrsion 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    i liked the analysis, I would like to see of this content in the future!

  • @niigolover
    @niigolover 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I really like these kind of discussions !!

  • @mikebiddle4070
    @mikebiddle4070 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Great breakdown of the thought process in who to pull for. Safer to invest in supports/sustains then pull for the new DPS if needed since they’ll be geared toward the Meta. Now looking toward the future, I think I’ll go for Acharacter versus Sparkler

  • @AyoSteezey
    @AyoSteezey 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Awesome analysis EOD! I’m not even colorblind and I appreciate your attention to the importance of accessibility in your videos. Your channel deserves more views!

  • @OtterPirate
    @OtterPirate 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Its also crazy cause with Acheron coming out in 2.1 we will have THREE limited 5 star lightning dps units, 2 being nihility

  • @Opti-Miser
    @Opti-Miser 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    LOVE seeing all this data with such a competent interpreter to guide me, amazing work! I found the trends in the sustain characters to be especially interesting. Everyone made due until they got their two primary sustains and then those characters never left their teams. I personally am a Luocha+Huohuo gamer for my two sustains, and I love them both!! i ended up getting huohuo because Fu Xuan dodged me on her first banner

  • @esmondgoh3112
    @esmondgoh3112 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +56

    Lynx got forgotten in the sustain category 😢

    • @roxas5071
      @roxas5071 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      i still use her 😭 (got literally nothing else other than my e1 fu xuan, gonna get aventurine)

  • @TheOtherSideCh
    @TheOtherSideCh 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I had a random kafka without LC that I got back in the day and was benched for a while. Then with release of Swan, I went for her E0S1 because I'm f2p and MAN... they do crazy amount of damage! but yes, pulling for supports is often times MORE important. In Houkai 3rd we've been clearing meta gameplay with 3 Support teams for years, and I'm sure Stareil will get to that point eventually.

    • @gonnabestupidbutactuallyno8295
      @gonnabestupidbutactuallyno8295 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Kafka and BS are just insanely good. In my calcs for E0S1 Kafka, E1+S5 EOTP BS and E1+S5 MOTP Mei they do damage comparable only to E2S1 Daniel with E1S1 Sparkle and same mei. That's 1 less limited LC and 2 less limited characters, which is just so dope. In FtP calcs they just obliterate any other comp...
      Hypercarry teams at this point need 5* version of TingYun to get close to DoT.

  • @bengenesis1989
    @bengenesis1989 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very interesting and enjoyable video. Love this type of analysis

  • @itzHammerhead
    @itzHammerhead 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +105

    Yanqing is truly one of the most uncreepable characters in hsr

    • @wiritpollapcharoenporn3168
      @wiritpollapcharoenporn3168 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +56

      Because you cannot creep the dead

    • @Helperishere
      @Helperishere 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      ​@@wiritpollapcharoenporn3168Very true. This is coming from someone who has him built. Once Aventurin comes out he will get so much better

    • @Josh-qt5zi
      @Josh-qt5zi 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @hunterishere14523 Aventurine actually learn more toward fua like Topaz

    • @Helperishere
      @Helperishere 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@Josh-qt5zi well yeah but Aventurin has built in effect resistance and effect hit rate down meaning his shields won't lot dots to hit through them. So Yanqing has a way to keep his much needed passive active. If his passive is down than he is worse than dps Pela

    • @dariel299
      @dariel299 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Helperishere even if doesnt get hit and keep his passive he still pales in comparison to other hunts like free ratio and fellow ice element JL

  • @mismismism
    @mismismism 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    It will be interesting seeing what happens to sustain. Right now Fu Xuan, Luocha and HuoHuo all offer something different so none completely outshine the others between Fu Xuan pseudo-shield, Luocha not taking skill points plus good damage, and HuoHuo giving energy and constant cleansing. It will be interesting to see what happens once 5* sustains start overlapping in their niche.

    • @midnight.blue42
      @midnight.blue42 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'm curious what will Aventurine's skills be like

    • @isaac-p6126
      @isaac-p6126 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@midnight.blue42 Yo his kit got leaked already! Take it with a grain of salt tho, Sparkle leaks were mostly wrong too.

    • @mismismism
      @mismismism 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@midnight.blue42 I've seen some of the leaks, but no spoilers and nothing is set in stone anyway, but it will definitely be interesting to see where he falls and if he pushes anyone out of the meta. There are still a lot of niches left to be filled though.

    • @jender_
      @jender_ 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@isaac-p6126 why?? the beta has already end so the kit is the one she will have when comes out

    • @isaac-p6126
      @isaac-p6126 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jender_ read. carefully.

  • @spyrothetimelord
    @spyrothetimelord 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    My fellow Jing Yuan supporters, I am with you ✊🏻😔

    • @Singleplayr
      @Singleplayr 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Im with you here brother

  • @mrpyrostorm3165
    @mrpyrostorm3165 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I always enjoy looking at the data.

  • @cherrycookie85
    @cherrycookie85 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is soooo interesting =) thank you!

  • @Thesp_The_Thesp
    @Thesp_The_Thesp 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Awesome to see Clara use being consistent. As a Clara main her usage in Simulated Universe as a Elation POWER house can't be understated! She's the special sauce that makes an Elation team work! Very much recommend to people who have her in their roster but not sure how to utilise her

  • @E_DIsos
    @E_DIsos 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    More insightful than I anticipated.

  • @brianpark2564
    @brianpark2564 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    These are great pls keep up videos also suggestions on variation of teams to build for story, new limited runs from f2p to pay but also for ppl new and not having chance to get some of older 5* banners

  • @malificajones7674
    @malificajones7674 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Although I agree with you that Fu Xuan is brokenly OP, I'm not sure she's all that resistant to powercreep.
    We need two teams of four characters for MoC and Pure Fiction.
    With the current meta, the best teams are: Sustainer/2x buffer/Hypercarry.
    Also, when you reach a certain power level, you can drop a sustainer completely and just use: 3xbuffer + Hypercarry.
    As we only need two sustainers at maximum, as soon as a new OP Preservation or Abundance character is released, then Huo huo or Luocha is going to end up obsolete. When two come out that are better than Fu Xuan, she's going to get perma-benched.
    The category that we need the most of are buffers, but we've only had one limited 5* Harmony character so far (Ruan Mei). Bronya is extremely good for a standard banner 5*, and the only one who hasn't been powercrept yet. But Sparkle will be released soon and she'll most likely be just as OP as Ruan Mei.
    For that reason I think that the only character that won't get powercrept for at least the next two years is Ruan Mei. She adds so many buffs, that she's amazing in almost every type of team. We ideally need 4 buffers (or 6!), and we currently only have one Limited Harmony unit.

    • @isaac-p6126
      @isaac-p6126 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      The thing is, my Fu xuan deletes one wave by her own with her Ult in pure fiction. She is very good at that. For MoC, we're getting more and more into a no sustain meta. (Thank you ruan mei 😠).

    • @malificajones7674
      @malificajones7674 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@isaac-p6126 True, pure fiction has certainly added a ton of value to characters with aoe attacks.
      But we still only need the next two protection/abundance characters to have better sustainability as well as aoe attacks, then Fu Xuan, as OP as she currently is, gets benched.

    • @wubbalubbabudbud
      @wubbalubbabudbud 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I have both Luocha and FX. So, if there is a better sustain character than both of them, i’ll still consider whether to pull for her/him or not. If both of them still can tank the whole content, maybe i’ll skip the newest. Unless he/she has a good synergy with my favourite dps.
      The thing with sustain is there is a limitation for which u should pull or not, whereas dpses are tempting bcs of the big pp number and variety of elements. You can fight with ease against wind weakness enemy with RM, but it’s gonna be quite harder with ratio or IL. Also, you dont care about 10k/heal as long as that sustain can save your whole team.
      IMO you dont need to always pull for the best sustain characters everytime they released, but latest OP dps has more value. Still with all of these being said, everything is depending on your current characters.

    • @isaac-p6126
      @isaac-p6126 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Do we really need better sustainability for pure fiction and moc? I think with huohuo they went an interesting way. Basically trading survivability for buffing potential.
      And i think a solo sustain with an aoe Ult with fuxuans damage potential is still far away. Remember, she buffs her own crit rate too.

    • @WestProZ17
      @WestProZ17 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It's hard to top Fu Xuan. Aventurine looks very strong and seems like he'll be the best in slot sustain for FuA but depending on his shield strength I don't think it'd be as strong as Gepard's since its off his skill and not his Ult.

  • @cpatten818
    @cpatten818 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I just got Bronya with the 300 summon standard selector and my biggest gripe with her is the speed tuning is such a PAIN. Especially if you want to try her with different carries

  • @Esperian
    @Esperian 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Curious to see how DHIL's usage changed (if it did) since Dr Ratio came out and was given out to everyone for free.

  • @yumi3489
    @yumi3489 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Im one of people who love statistics 😅
    And wanted to add that sustains big drop is tied not only to Fu but also Lynx (she was kinda forgotten 😢)

  • @TheZackzable
    @TheZackzable 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

    there are crazy dreams of sparkle and JY which seem solid. Tldr.: Because Sparkle gives so much SkillPoints, Ting kann use E every turn, which is enough for JY to get 2E and 1 Ult every 1ish turn thus maxing out lightning lord and this giving him a really solid increase in DPS.

    • @isaac-p6126
      @isaac-p6126 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      doesn't she gives 1 per ult, when she uses skill all the time? I mean shes positive while bronya... well

    • @haithammandangan804
      @haithammandangan804 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@isaac-p6126 She can give up to 7 sp per ULT if you just use basic atk on her 3x

    • @pixelrose_
      @pixelrose_ 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​​@@haithammandangan804she only give 4 sp on ult but her passive increases the max count of sp to 7

    • @haithammandangan804
      @haithammandangan804 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@pixelrose_ yes but if you basic 3x+ULT you get 7 SP from sparkle. That is what I am tryna say

    • @isaac-p6126
      @isaac-p6126 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@haithammandangan804 Yeah but thats not really what you wanna do right? You wanna fast forward and buff your dps. I mean you can use her basic situational, but there will be a loss in damage.

  • @hystericallyhysterical4263
    @hystericallyhysterical4263 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I've been building my march with clara in mind for the next build because I think their playstyle is pretty fun, but are they somewhat pretty effective on endgame content like moc and gold & gears?

  • @WithoutException
    @WithoutException 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I might pull for FuXuan E1 and S0 when she comes back around since she’s so OP. That team would have great buffs and never need a healer for the lifetime of her being powercreeped

    • @bobbycollins7620
      @bobbycollins7620 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      If you get her lc then she would also be an insane healer

  • @Yamazukisama
    @Yamazukisama 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I'm fairly sure Seele is gonna spike up again once Sparkle drops because of the 30% more Quantum Dmg passive she has when 3 Quantum characters are in 1 team.

  • @Otakho
    @Otakho 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great quality video. Correct me if I'm wrong but you're a Singaporean which is really rare to find good content from my own country. Keep it up! 🎉

  • @sergito_45
    @sergito_45 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    hey man great video! Im curious... is there a reason you pronounce Luota instead of Luocha?

  • @Justme-jp8ih
    @Justme-jp8ih 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    I have to disagree. Clara might be fun and strong, but the way she works is really bad for endgame. You wanna kill enemies with least turns ans possible. Whereas Claras kit wants enemies to attack you to deal dmg to them. Shes just not designed for endgame

    • @prawnhub357
      @prawnhub357 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Agree to disagree. Yeah i know Clara isnt that satisfying to play compare to other dps since she cant 0-cycle due to lacking burst/one shot power.But her consistency is amazing her value isnt going to drop any sooner when enemies has their speed ramping up every patch.She's a mix of Euridition and Destruction unit being able to hit ALL unit with skill and tanky as well compare to recent release destruction chara naturally she's excellent in both PF and MoC.

    • @IdeasAreBulletproof
      @IdeasAreBulletproof 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      She isn't as good at Endgame but doesn't mean you can't Clear with her.

    • @TheRoleplayer40k
      @TheRoleplayer40k 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      99% of players don’t care about 0 cycle

    • @Justme-jp8ih
      @Justme-jp8ih 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TheRoleplayer40k its not even about 0 cycle lol its about getting Max stars for max rewards

    • @jewontheskidoo
      @jewontheskidoo 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      She’s extremely useful in pure fiction and SU but other than that yeah she’s not very good for endgame

  • @VauseKV
    @VauseKV 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I really appreciate the consideration for people who listen while doing other things, as well as your consideration for colorblind folks ❤

  • @SkyBlue_32
    @SkyBlue_32 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    wait, where is lynx?
    edit: it might be the one in the same box as Fu Xuan. just forgot to put the pic there.

  • @allister21
    @allister21 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    some good stuff, keep it up !!

  • @neanahidden
    @neanahidden 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I’m curious. How much value do you usually put on pure utility compared to characters design/personality/lore?
    For me it varies. Pulled Ruan Mei because she’s so so useful even if I personally think her character is awful, zero ethics Dr Frankenstein on heels 😅
    But on the other hand I’m still resolutely sticking with Jing Yuan. Continuing to upgrade his relics and teams to make him work even better. He might not be the most powerful but I love his character too much to swap him for any other lightning dps.

    • @mvlus
      @mvlus 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I'm moving the same way)

  • @dyeung4190
    @dyeung4190 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    are you factoring the buffs and elemental weakness in each game version in this?

  • @MiroriYamata
    @MiroriYamata 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    well with the coming of blackswan, kafka rise to the top but this graph stop at 1.6

  • @wayneli4919
    @wayneli4919 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Idea for another video like this, is to graph the character points with 1/Number of characters, might give a better idea of character usage relative to others

  • @shy9384
    @shy9384 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    8:38... I still use March because I don't have any shielder plus I really like her follow up attacks and aoe freeze. My build is full def, Gepard's 5* LC and E6

  • @snackeetah2627
    @snackeetah2627 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

    Wait until Sparke releases. DanIL will skyrocket and overthrow Jingliu and just will stay there forever. Which is sad, he's meant to be balanced by his SP consumption. Also Kafka rn is probable skyrockenting since she amplifies Black Swan greatly.

    • @Sibylite
      @Sibylite 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Tbh his e2 is basically sparkle already without the extra sp at the start of the battle

    • @SuperExtremum
      @SuperExtremum 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@Sibyliteits not sparkle Inc. Damage and cd% by a ton. It was already calculated that sparkle + dan heng deal way way more damage then any other dps

    • @sathariel3231
      @sathariel3231 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      It really doesn’t matter in the end because everything will be decided with what they throw at us with moc and what buff they will give (up coming one literally made for skill consumption)

    • @Pedro-cq7zz
      @Pedro-cq7zz 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I dont think he will overthrow her he has competition alredy while she wasnt

    • @isaac-p6126
      @isaac-p6126 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Can you give the source? Not saying you're wrong, I would just like to see the math and how strong she makes him.@@SuperExtremum

  • @-Insert-Name_Here-
    @-Insert-Name_Here- 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

    *HOW COULD YOU FORGET WELT!* he never got powercrept, he’s just a really niche character and isn’t much of a priority build for people who have him unless you like the character like me. He’ll never get powercrept and if he does, I’ll eat Glowsticks

    • @brupts7297
      @brupts7297 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      His Ult effect is superrrr clutch though

    • @fishfood8711
      @fishfood8711 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      welt has always been underrated, probably because he’s hard to build and not a cute anime girl

  • @Scorpio9580
    @Scorpio9580 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +75

    You forgot about Dr. Ratio competing with DHIL in the same Element 😭

    • @luvylu1
      @luvylu1 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      It’s definitely going to impact his upcoming rerun banner. I have both and I prefer using ratio since he’s fun. But with sparkle inhibitor might rise a bit

    • @someoneinasia
      @someoneinasia 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      @@luvylu1 i think sam's burning skill point is hinting us that hoyo might nerf skill points in the future, more and more enemies will have ability to give penalty for using skill point.

    • @ayyjay1575
      @ayyjay1575 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +48

      ​@@someoneinasia IL is ironically the one who completely messes up and shredds that SP burning mechanic of SAM

    • @lucassa5083
      @lucassa5083 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@ayyjay1575 yeah lol, it is considered as one SP consumption not 3 XD

    • @lucassa5083
      @lucassa5083 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      @@someoneinasia it only counts as one SP consumed not 3 :D

  • @KakavashaForever
    @KakavashaForever 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Fire MC is such a weird case, they were in S tier in every tier list for like 3 months, then all the sudden they dropped to B tier, and now most tier lists put them in C or even D tier. So sad. I enjoy using them very much but its hard to find a spot for them on any team that isn't done better by another character.

  • @Iyoverse
    @Iyoverse 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    While I understand everything being said, the graph is destroying my eyes. LMAO My ADHD debuff is forcing me to look at every single line regardless of highlights.

  • @LustLord
    @LustLord 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Bronya stocks gonna go down after sparkle guys its nightmare😔

  • @pixelrose_
    @pixelrose_ 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

    for tingyun i think its more of players probably use dual dps on ruan mei, she isnt powercrept but just replaced by another dps instead
    nevermind it seems pela also dropped so it seems almost all supports is shafted by ruan mei😂

    • @gonnabestupidbutactuallyno8295
      @gonnabestupidbutactuallyno8295 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      TY's best comps (Daniel, Jingliu) AND basic hyper carry comps with 2 harmony just prefer Ruan Mei, simply due to her having bigger buffs. And pela got moved since we're getting more and more def shred in eidolons and LCs. I think Ruan Mei E1 is quite a culprit here, as it's a somewhat accessible great eidolon on a cracked character that a lot of people waited for in a patch with essentially dead 2nd banner... Now we have sparkle E2, BS and her LC and I can already sense more stuff like that coming soon.
      Just generally, I feel like they are playing on our genshin brain rot, that's why we see so many DMG%, CRIT and DEF stuff. It's just a synonym to "crack" for us since it's what makes Ganyu, Ayaka, Raiden C2 and so on so good.

  • @someoneinasia
    @someoneinasia 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    the only way a character would top fu xuan is they do exactly with fu xuan but not with damage mitigation but instead giving buffy shield to everyone with skill and passive, on demand shield for everyone.
    march is single shielder, gepard is burst shield, fire MC shield is very weak.

    • @stefanlolgame-3503
      @stefanlolgame-3503 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      If I'm not mistaken adventurine's kit is somewhat similar to that

    • @someoneinasia
      @someoneinasia 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@stefanlolgame-3503 if he can give gepard level shield just by using skill for everyone and give other buffs like fu xuan then he's probably the most broken unit.

    • @stefanlolgame-3503
      @stefanlolgame-3503 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Well his kit involves random shields like hearts spades etc, probably each having different effects, and yes, the shields activate on the skill

    • @eggpam8908
      @eggpam8908 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      ​@@someoneinasiahis shields refres on their own so he is like loucha, his shields give effect res to teammates and aventurine is also a sub dps with fua and the enemies he hits have their ehr reduced. He scales fully on def and one of his traces gives him cr based on def. So he looks like loucha level sp usage + fu xuan level sustain + huohuo's versatility (having other functions)
      I hate fu xuan's kit so I hope she gets powercrept to dust lmao. Aventurine looks like he will at least be near her level if not just straight up better

    • @jammed_yam
      @jammed_yam 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@eggpam8908 I am fully on the aventurine hype train bro has every category that I love: shielder, follow up attacker, debuffer, buffer, dual dps compatible

  • @piusbutarbutar1782
    @piusbutarbutar1782 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    im actually interested in the "enabler" category like kafka and topaz.
    Most people say that character like them will age alongside the game and i think the release of blackswan in penacony is a good time to show if the claim is true

  • @meghgireesh2106
    @meghgireesh2106 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    How come no lynx was shown with the sustains??

  • @jewontheskidoo
    @jewontheskidoo 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    “Well there’s been more ice weak enemies recently and there’s no other ice dps besides Jing Liu” yeah that’s true, but there’s also 2 other types of damage the enemy is weak to which means you don’t need to use an ice dps at all so that argument goes out the window for any element type

  • @minghanchua8462
    @minghanchua8462 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I hope Acheron Kafka and future black swan (because I want e0s1 Acheron) with that new 4 star fire healer will be a great team hopefully

  • @Uyhn26
    @Uyhn26 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    0:18 appreciate that a lot.

  • @SMZahin-bb3gx
    @SMZahin-bb3gx 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video. Also hope you consider adding time stamps.

  • @Yorkington
    @Yorkington 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    11:20 Who is the 2nd pink line in the red box, below FireMC line and above March line.

    • @MetricPolygon
      @MetricPolygon 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'm guessing Lynx, she came out in the same patch

  • @starthistle4261
    @starthistle4261 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What a king, caring for the colour blind folks

  • @poczciwy_delfin6111
    @poczciwy_delfin6111 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Realy good video ❤

  • @cseperegazesolefolyikazarcomon
    @cseperegazesolefolyikazarcomon 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    13:24 because of time I think😅 it's much more easier and faster finishing a battle with tons of dmg

  • @Memou22
    @Memou22 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    We need that they add a 3rd team for MoC, the accounts are getting so strong right now

  • @BatteryStaples
    @BatteryStaples 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I really like this content, personally I prefer to hold onto pulls and then go for e3-4 on a strong character that might stay evergreen so it's good to see what might remain relevant even if they are not the strongest (like clara)

    • @-Insert-Name_Here-
      @-Insert-Name_Here- 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Then you better stack your jade now cause I heard that Acheron is gonna be the next strongest DPS in the game (which I’m my opinion I doubt since Nihility Characters usually have low multipliers [I should know, I’m a Welt main with every Nihility character except Kafka and Luka] since they debuff/DOT) but I’m not completely sure

  • @aezzie3320
    @aezzie3320 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I have fuxuan full upgrde trace,good relic's set, with signiture Lightcones,, for support my Imbibitor Lunae

  • @vexuskraze8182
    @vexuskraze8182 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Glad to see Asta still somehow having consistently okay appearance rates despite being the most shafted out of all supps when fighting off element.
    If Asta was built to work universally like the other supps , we would probably see a slightly diff graph

  • @leoniichan1229
    @leoniichan1229 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I really like how he doesn't blindly praise jingliu despite having such a high appearance rate. People really thought she's the best there is and will stay so for a long time, when in reality it's simply because the environment has been flooded with ice weakness ever since she's released

  • @trashraccoon2635
    @trashraccoon2635 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    i spent money for imbibitor lunae and has been f2p before and since. no regrets tbh, i pulled him for lore reasons and the fact that he hits like a truck is a very nice surprise.
    the point about elements is very much true though, because i've been using him less in favor of using dr. ratio lately, though my build is still very much bad and i need more debuffers built for him. IL is still the one i go for when i want consistent and reliable damage, but dr. ratio also has points to make people gravitate toward him, like him being given to players for free and being less skill point hungry than IL.

  • @abdulwaduod11
    @abdulwaduod11 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    watching the video while i am collecting mint in genshin

    • @niigolover
      @niigolover 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Mint picker? 🤔

  • @JaviVice2
    @JaviVice2 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The statistics guy when the homework is free topic

  • @lbomb1121
    @lbomb1121 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Haven’t even watched but Ruan Mei’s kit makes it literally impossible for her to ever get power crept, since she does something so special

  • @DarthDionius
    @DarthDionius 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    No shine for Lynxy, she did really well in the sustain category, all told, 4th most used, though essentially replaced by Huo Huo for a lot of people, the graph would suggest.

    • @isaac-p6126
      @isaac-p6126 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I didnt pull huohuo bc i have an well build E6 lynx. I dobt regret it, even tho i play hypercarry. I could get ruan mei, Dhil AND Hanabi because of that skip. Plus one of my teams is the Jingliu blade thing, which works great with her obviously.
      But ngl... her time will come. She wont make it to 2025 in my 2 top teams :(

  • @RainStorm148
    @RainStorm148 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    one of the lines i live by ever since i start playing gacha games is: "DPS is temporary. Support is eternal."
    my friends and I made that line after we had a realization of how easy it is to powercreep big numbers but there will be those support party members who always find a way to remain relevant long after.
    currently waiting for Jingliu's rerun to snag her LC while i'm farming for better relics for her and Herta.

    • @t0q14s9
      @t0q14s9 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      To be fair hsr is already seeing so many op and very universal supports so it doesnt apply as much as in games like genshin. When you already have a few really good supports you will probably benefit more from getting really good dps units. Sustainers are also a consideration but when you have 2 good ones they will probably work for a very very long time.

    • @RainStorm148
      @RainStorm148 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@t0q14s9 ah yeah. i agree. i will find my favourite DPS eventually but for now i'm focusing more on supports

    • @JMike-bq6rl
      @JMike-bq6rl 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      "DPS are only as strong as their Supports."
      You can't just simply put 4 DPS in a team, and not struggle with SP issues.

  • @nello7466
    @nello7466 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can the jump of Pela be explained by the limited time event you got her for free?

  • @ichika25722
    @ichika25722 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think recently acheron has switched to a nihility character. So that means she will be competing against kafka. She will be the 1st chara that is a repeat of same element and path

  • @iwaslying_
    @iwaslying_ 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice video

  • @F.I.N.A.L.I.T.Y.
    @F.I.N.A.L.I.T.Y. 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Me: " alright im just gonna play hsr now" (starts pc)
    0:18

  • @Benisbucker
    @Benisbucker 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think Seele is honestly going to age one of the most gracefully, sparkle is going to make her even more busted in mono quantum. Jing Yuan will probably age the worst because of his backloaded damage and weakness to CC -- which Fu Xuan helps but there are often cases with two CC bosses at once in MOC that completely makes him frustrating to play.

  • @AgataGaming
    @AgataGaming 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Good analysis, thumbs up.
    Just want to place it here for the people that just start playing or anyone that have any interest for playing HSR.
    There is no powercreep in HSR, at least for now.
    People like to use powercreep this powercreep that in a pve game that doesn't have any incentive for player to actually pull for the better character. Wow this character will replace this character and be meta character for 0 turn floor 12 MoC, don't care, doesn't matter, except if you are a type of people that live by consuming other people attention instead of air to breath. In other game like PGR and HI3 ( onother pve game ) there is a little incentive because you get more reward per week if you can perform and score higher in their weakly challenges, it's not that bad but yeah you can say there is a powercreep in those game. In a pvp game like Epic7, you can't win any high rank pvp if you don't have the meta unit. But HSR ? for now there's no such thing as that.
    If you can 3 star MoC using Hook as a dps and Natasha as a healer, so be it. Pull for whatever you want, reject the meta embrace your waifu. I don't care even tough I already have kafka as lightning dps, I will still pull for acheron just to complete my nihility supremacy, and I bench all imaginary except YuKong even tough DHIL is one of the best dps in game right now, no place for husbando in my team.
    Peace.

  • @-JohnVieDaruca
    @-JohnVieDaruca 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I missed the goats banner because when i started playing its jingyuan banner so i missed DHil banner 😢

  • @dee6561
    @dee6561 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hmm! Interesting!

  • @thamismedina6394
    @thamismedina6394 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Hey man, u forgot about linx, her line was there but u didnt meantion her, poor girl

  • @PsnPocketsFulOfHope
    @PsnPocketsFulOfHope 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Surprised to see kafka on low with all the hype she has.

    • @frilo369
      @frilo369 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Kafka went up drastically in 2.0 because of black swan, this graphic only shows statistics for up to 1.6.3

    • @PsnPocketsFulOfHope
      @PsnPocketsFulOfHope 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@frilo369 still low imo, before Kafka came out a lot of people was talking crazy about her so I was expecting her to be up pretty high on the charts, now acheron is about to come out, will probably reduce Kafka 🤔

    • @saeta2624
      @saeta2624 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@PsnPocketsFulOfHopeно Кафка не дотер

    • @frilo369
      @frilo369 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@PsnPocketsFulOfHope People were talking about her because of her early drop marketing and a lot of bias due to her attractiveness however when it comes to gameplay statistics kafka was/is highly dependent on other DoT units due to her kit so with that said kafka will skyrocket every time a DoT limited character is released and her low appearance rate after her release is understandable

  • @niklasmirrazeghi3560
    @niklasmirrazeghi3560 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    If I'm honest, i firmly believe that kafka is the #1 character resistant to powercreep. With every new DoT character that comes out, kafka gets better, and there is simply no way around that level of consistency.

  • @xuanthivu4944
    @xuanthivu4944 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Silverwolf is probally the most resistant in HSR, her ability to apply weakness is too good since HSR is coming up with so many character with not only different path but also different mechanic like break, DOT, Follow up, ulti dmg focus, basic attack, skill dmg focus. So silverwolf is so good when you need to abuse one mechanic but you dont have the char in the beneficial path. I had doubt with SW but now im sure ill need her E1 and build her ERR rope.

  • @Hentai_Akuma
    @Hentai_Akuma 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Acheron will be on the same team as Kafka and Black Swan

  • @gallant3679
    @gallant3679 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Id argue that pela would not be seeing the use she is if it wasn't for "before the tutorial mission starts" LC. That one LC is the only reason she's viable because her kit is the same it's always been but she was never so universal

  • @mfyoungblood
    @mfyoungblood 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The fact that expensive ass tableau was used for this is crazy

  • @shiro98_ch71
    @shiro98_ch71 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    waiting for kafka's revival after black swan dropped lol, heavenly DoT pair

    • @PandaKing550
      @PandaKing550 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They cook I'll tell you that

  • @nappydappy7463
    @nappydappy7463 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Lynx 👁️👄👁️

  • @heilamwether8911
    @heilamwether8911 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Imma be honest: I have no doubt that Acheron is going to cause a ripple across the meta, since Black swan + Kafka is already 2# best, or even the best team comp in the game currently for every type of game mode. Acheron being added to that, and if she synergies with both of them will cause massive changes to meta, something we haven’t seen since jingliu.