Why a Used Jaguar is SO Cheap (And Why I'm Buying One)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 ธ.ค. 2023
- If you look at the used car market, you'll find used Jaguar cars are cheap! Does that mean you should buy a used Jaguar? Well, I'm going to explain why they're cheap, and it includes things like reliability, depreciation, and quality. We'll walk through why I'm going to pick up another one of these Jaguar vehicles on the used car market and why I think it's going to be a great idea for some.
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Gotta hand it to you Mark, you put out a lot of credible information, video after video after video. People don't realize how difficult this is to maintain 👍
Thank you very much, it is a lot and I love to share with others. Hope you have a wonderful holiday season.
@@ECPP As fellow car guys ourselves we certainly appreciate your dedication 👏 Happy holidays! 🏁☃️🎄🦾
I just hope that his camera stays strong after being hit so many times
I agree.
I just bought a 2017 F pace thidbpast May with just under 80k miles. I love it and it definitely is a head turner. I change the oil and perform minor maintenance myself. Im now up to 90k miles, and she's still purring.
How is it running now? Any problems?
I bought a 2002 XJR 100 for 16000$ in 2007. I ran the piss out of this car from 50,000 until 110,000 miles. I had to replace the thermostat and a shock! Got 10,000 for the car in 2015 ! Best car I ever owned!
Jag makes some beautiful vehicles.......reliability, parts availability, and dealership access are all reasons why i never touched one. Closest dealer is about 35 miles away......that can get bothersome if you have to go there frequent. Thanks for sharing Mark. I do enjoy hearing about yours!😊
I bought a jaguar xe petrol five and a half years ago, had the main module replaced under warranty and that is the only problem I've had ,but I have only done 20,000 miles,very reliable so far
I’ve had my 2018 XE since new, 55k miles and car is fantastic ❤
11:01 very informative, Mark. Thanks for the perspective!
It does take a certain appetite for risk to buy one of these used. Even when they're working fine, those supercharged engines drink a lot of fuel, and even basic services like oil changes are more expensive than average. That being said, I've had my XKR for a year and a half now, and it's been pretty fuss-free. It doesn't act like a pampered princess. It starts every time and gets me where I need to go without issue. In terms of reliability it's certainly been better than some other cars I've had, though I recognize I may just be lucky and my experience may not be everyone's. I still see buying a used Jag as a lottery - you may hit the jackpot and get one that doesn't give you any issues in which case they're tremendous value for money, or you may get one that becomes your worst nightmare. May the odds be ever in your favor.
I've owned a Jag 2011 XJL for about 3 years now (without a warranty) and its been waaay more reliable than I expected.. Its my weekend car so that may be whats been saving me.. I've had such a good experience with this car that I'm considering upgrading to a newer XJ or keeping it and picking up a older F-type..
Go for it we only live once 👍🏽
I'm blown away by the honesty.
We had a 2005 S-Type, the car (black with biscuit interior) looked and drove awesome. Ford, back then, did a decent job with the drive train and chassis. There were no issues we experienced. Have not heard anything good about the Tata products, but the XJL is gorgeous. Sad about the depreciation and reliability issues. Complete awakening here (comes with age): Toyota Tacoma and a RAV 4 in our garage.
An interior made from biscuits will not last.
Ford actually shored up some of the historic Jaguar problems, specifically Lucas electronics. i owned a Lincoln LS years ago, and the car was essentially a Jaguar, in terms of suspension and power plant. i was very pleased with it (V8).
A joke decades ago: Why are some British beers warm? Lucas refrigerators.
We brought a new F-Type 8 years ago and a new XE 7 years ago, still have them lovely cars. No real problems, will keep them for the foreseeable future.
Mark is the real deal boys, everything he said about my Charger is true, he does not mess around and I feel like I can come here to get the real scoop, love this guy
Amazing Content Mark!
Thanks very much. Trying to up my game on all aspects. Have a great Holiday Season
I love Jaguars. I had a old 2003 Jaguar S-Type . I bought it used & I was able to drive it for 7 or 8 years without any problems. Around the 7th year of me having it I had to get a new fuel pump but that was it. The car ran smooth & that was the only problem I had. I probably would still be riding it today if it didnt get stolen.
There were many great Jags in the past. The X type was a bit of a mess and a few older V12 ma we’re pricey to run but honestly not out of line with most luxury competitors
love the phrase you get the screaming kitty cat and the screaming kitty cat of despair lol.
Excellent summary.
Thank you very much
Bought an Fpace for cheap. Pulled the supercharger, 24$ coupler upgrade and supercharger oil change. Swapped all coolant pipes for metal versions. Cost $180 total and 4 hours of my time (Jag wanted $3800). Purs like a kitten now with no leaks.
Thank you for the honest opinionated information! I’m on the line and ready to jump. You just slowed me down to take more time to think and make a right decision!
Great cars though, thats why I bought one
The 2013 XF that I bought in 2019 is my most beautiful and classy car. It's been fairly reliable: the EGR valve needed cleaning and had two rear parking sensors replaced. I love the looks - inside and out - and the way it drives. That blue F type is gorgeous and so is yours 👍.
Thanks very much, great buy going for the XF, they are wonderful cars and takes the already great XE and steps it up. These Jags are all so under appreciated and that’s how buying used makes so much sense for people like us who “get it”. Great rides. Hope you have a great holiday season.
Merry Christmas Mark, family and friends 🇨🇦✌🏻🫶🏻
Thank you very much and wishing you and your family a very Merry Christmas.
I love this explanation I was looking into buying a used E pace
Thanks fornwatching
I bought my XJL during the height of the used car apocalypse over 2 years ago for less than a same year Honda accord w/ leather interior. As one that does their own repair work, I find these cars are not horrible to work on and if you are willing to do a bit of looking, most parts can be obtained for decent prices. I've owned 4 Jags now, and the Ford era and newer have been pretty good to me. In reality my XJL was designed under Ford, and there is a lot of carry over from the Ford era in the current generation cars. The one exception is the 2011 XJ my eldest bought, it has some weird communication issues between the modules that didn't get noticed on our test drive that are a bit of a nuisance and the only fix is to take it in and have the BCM reprogramed. So they are just driving it for now and we will fix it someday.
Cracking the price mystery
I have a jaguar xe r sport, absolutely love it and to date no issues, look after your jaguar and it will look after you.
I get a oil change twice a year with premium oil.
Great vlog.
Cars in general. I always wonder when people say this car or that car isn't reliable. Like did you ever get the car serviced? Like ever? Did you ever keep up with routine maintenance?
My question won't fitbin this video but I left toyota for a mazda cx-30 2024 and it's been very quiet ride i can say. My question is they have a turbo version and was wondering if this channel can tell me more about it as though i may change it for a turbo or not.
I’ve had a 2016 XF 3.0 SC for about five years now. My issues have been nagging rear camera fuzziness, a leaking front differential, and a coolant pressure tank. Other than that it’s been absolutely perfect, and all repairs were done under warranty. It’s now at 115,000km and frankly I’m at a loss on what I would replace it with. It drives beautifully, plenty of poke, etc.
Three words: service, service, service.
I’d absolutely get into another Jag - ideally a CPO just in case.
And the same would be said for a Merc, BMW, or Audi.
Good morning Mark, Merry Christmas to you and your family 🎄🎅💗🌹🤜
Good morning Scott, great to hear from you again, and hope you have been keeping well. How have things been? You also be sure to have a wonderful holiday season and a Merry Christmas
I'm good, or as good as I can be with lung cancer 😂, so when are you moving to the Okanagan Valley 🎉😂🎉
Im looking at a 2014-2015 Ftype are for 26,000.. I dont know how this video made me feel about it lol. How has your held up? would you recommend the car??
I have a 2012 Jaguar XF V8. I am the 2nd owner. I ABSOLUTELY LOVE IT!! It has been just as reliable as my previous Acura, Infinity, and way. Way better than a previous BMW. I am looking to get a 2021 F-Pace P400 next . I can't wait for prices to come down a little more. I highly recommend Jaguar as the reliability is getting much better since Ford had them.
I agree, that’s been my experience as well, in my V8 F Type R
I almost traded in my rx350 2017 for a 2020 f pace SVR. Just couldn't justify the cost and likely repairs in the future. However if money wasn't as much of an issue I would have done it.
I've had a 2017 F Pace S, a 2020 F-type SVR, my wife has a 2020 E Pace and I have another F PACE. I've never had any issues with any of them! I blown away there aren't more on the road. The warrantees 5/60000 lead the line, and I love the brand.
I'm actually happy more of those terrible cars aren't on the road, jaguars are soo expensive and unreliable.
@@pastoryoda2789Have you owned a modern Jag, or are you still living in the 80 and 90s like most of the nay sayers?
I’m not surprised to hear you say this. I have friends and family who have owned, or do own, modern Jags, and they have been completely happy with them. My buddy said his Jag was far more problem free than the Audi and BMW he had before it.
@@dlj1285 yes I owned a jaguar and it was a piece of trash 🗑 sold it and bought a Toyota
@@pastoryoda2789 What model and year?
I bought a used 2019 f pace S. Ive placed over 35,000 miles on it so far since I made the purchase and have had zero issues so far. currently at the 72000 mile mark with the vehicle. Also i constantly show off in this thing and force it to live up to that S badge. The car has been really reliable so far
I’m looking at a used f pace that has 98k on it for $16k. Everybody’s telling me don’t do it especially since it’s coming up on 100k but it’s sure is tempting
Can you do a review video on Kia stringers??
At least in the US market, it's best to buy a Jaguar brand new as a build-to-order, and drive it for at least 10 years. It worked out beautifully for me for two models (2012 XF V8, and 2022 F-Type P450 RWD). The first 5 years are covered by full warranty and complete cost-free maintenance in the US market.
By the tenth year of the car ownership, any Jaguar models have held up better or have similar depreciation rates than BMW's, Mercedes, and Audi's for similar mileage examples. Furthermore, in my experience, owning the car from the beginning (preferably, build-to-order ones) ensures that the "previous" owners did not abuse the car or skip on important maintenance items. You'd be amazed how many cars get neglected or abused by the first owner, especially if it is a leased vehicle.
9:38 Ive driven the FtypeR Amazing car. The experience clearly shows you why it was a 6 figure car at MSRP. I dont see how the SVR could be much better.
Thanks for reaching out and yes the SVR has a couple nice touches and the extra cash covers the lower production numbers, but performance difference is negligible, so the R is the best bang for buck.
Like I've said before, you really know what you're talking about, you're on point 99.99%.I owe a 2011 XF, best car I've ever had, I won't trade it for a bag of chips 😷🤣😂. I've kept up with the maintenance, hick ups, even the major ones. It's my daily drive, 160k miles now, I was planning to drive it until the wheels fall off, but my Dad is impressed by it and wants it. I'll have to give it up and get myself a Nissan GT-R. I wasn't impressed by the new Jag models, cheaply made, too much electronics. 12 years with that brand are good enough for me.
Thanks for sharing and I would definitely buy some new Jags. The latest F types are amazing as are some F Paces and the XJL. Some cool cars and for an amazing price on the used car market make them a tremendous buy.
@@ECPP the XJ got my attention before they discontinued it. But I'll definitely check the F types as you recommend. I love the new front headlights design for sure.
Thanks for talking me out of buying a used f pace 😅
I guess if you know every point of failure because of your research, you can buy any vehicle in peace.
Thanks for sharing your video those jaguar suv look like my toyota venza hybrid
Yes they do
Reliability is king!
Growing in the Northeast, I remember the Popular Luxury Vehicles people Drove in the 80s and early 90s where the Yuppies definitely had the BMW & Mercedes, Snooty Elites had the Saabs & Volvo and the Mafia or Pastors of Churches had their Cadillac & Lincoln. And Drug Dealers Drove a little bit of everything 😆. And all other Luxury Vehicles fell in between. But I do remember seeing a lot of Jaguars back then. I kinda believe that when Lexus & Infiniti came out ,there was a shift of Options. By the Early 2000s when Jaguar came out with the Ugly Twins the X and S Type it started going down Hill from there. I rarely see a lot of Jags on the road anymore. They are kinda like what Audi's used to be at a stop light. What is that?...lol Jags are still beautiful Cars. But the only one I've ever considered was just something simple and thats a pre owned XE.
Did you compare the issues to the ones of f01 7 series and w221 s class? This one stands way better in that term, coming form an owner of a xjl with 80k miles now
Jags are really dependent upon specific engines/years. The x300 era of 95-97 are built like tanks and main issue is rust over time. The 4.0 litre v8s late 90s-03 had timing chain tensioner issues. The 4.2 litre v8 until 2010 is solid. The early Stypes are not very good; the later ones are pretty good. 5.0 litre v8s and early SC v6 2010-2913 have timing chain tensioner issues (again). The Turbo I4 is suspect subject to early engine wear. The later 5.0v8 is quite good.
Absolutely some great points as they have some big ups and downs. Most brands have similar challenges too.
@@ECPP your videos are always great btw and I learn a lot. 👍. Jaguar never seems to learn, like with the multiple timing chain tensioner issues. It seems like there is a loss of corporate knowledge/history, sort of like where I work.😂
@@marial8235 you say later 5.0v8 is quite good. Which year onward?
@@johanboshoff5554 Allegedly timing chain tensioners were fixed 2013 and later. I’d do more research because that was what I read a few years ago.things may have changed since.
@@marial8235 much appreciated.
There are really 2 rules when buying a Jag and they are as follows: make sure you can afford the maintenance and paying someone a ridiculous amount to fix them or know how to and have the space to fix everything yourself.
Thanks for sharing
Question How are the 2.0 to 3.0 Diesel as far as Reliability? I see a lot of these for sale at good prices in the SUV and Sedan just need your expertise and opinion.
For the 2.0 diesel I would change to 5w40 oil and change it every 5thousand miles to not have timing chain problems
Never seen a soul patch like that. It’s huge
You would think I was Texan
Just bought a 2021 F Pace SVR as a CPO with 40k miles. Have unlimited miles for 3 yrs warranty. I hope she stays reliable for a while
Fun SVR I deed
Keep it up Mark. Love the info. I'm still aiming for that F Type. The new headlights look like a Ford Mondeo, don't do it
So you also prefer the older body style?
The pre-facelift is more characterful, but both are gorgeous.
They’re both nice but the new front end serves to make the gen 1 car look dated in comparison. People seem split on it though.
Best review so far!!!
You are so right, "Timing is everything in Sales". Having spent hundreds of hours in a Jaguar and many in a Service Waiting Room, I laughed all through your excellent presentation. But when you talked about the Jag engine and ended it with something like, "And here it sits in the Dumpster"...I swear, I almost pissed myself!!!🤣🤣🤣🤣
Are Jaguars or Maseratis less reliable?
Wondering can you do a segment on Cadillac cars
Absolutely I can
Im about to drop 25 grand on a low milage f-pace with 2 years warranty...im terrified this will be a tragic mistake. Heard the Diesels are a nightmare so im going for the 2L petrol.
Merry Christmas 🎅 🎄 Mark
I have a 2017 Jaguar XE 35T. It's been one of the most reliable cars I've ever owned. Only oil changes, tires, and brakes (all done myself). I also own a 2021 Mazda CX-9 Carbon Edition. Everything in the Mazda feels cheap compared to the Jaguar.
Hi from Nevada. I'm looking at a CPO 2021 or 2022 Mercedes-Benz GLB 250 for around $31k-$32k with less than 15k miles. Anyone know if these are reliable?
It has been said that they are on THE BOTTOM OF THE LIST FOR RELIABILITY!!!!!!!!!!
Well…. I did buy a used Jaguar. I know it will cost me but I can expect this. Got a F-Pace S and I love it. Just got to keep it up…. I paid after market warranty.
what year? the supercharged one? i was thinking about getting one but was skeptical on reliability and heard about many issues, would you reccomend?
I put 220,000 miles on a 2004 Jag. It was a work horse.
Cheers
Jaguar money pit love the comfort and style of older J cars though.
Almost all
Modern vehicle have huge potential to be money outs especially European vehicles, however, these are wonderful to drive in every way
agree which is why I fixed everything on my older E46 M3 BMW car as it still drives better and nicer than 90% of newer vehicles and cost less than new@@ECPP
........................... OPERATIVE WORD......FIXED...........................Get a Lexus LC500.............No Fixes....Far and away a Better Vehicle!.....@@GuitarsAndSynths
Audi is WAY worse. The fan boys over there are fooling themselves
The engine in the dumpster was great!!!
Haha, indeed
Id love to hear your opinion on the glb300 im really eyeing one would be a huge uograde iver my current kia Sportage 2017 but is it worth the extra $ for the glc? And overall your opinion on the glb!
I have the Jaguar XJL and you damn right i would have no other. I have no problems at all except one thing, where in the hell to drive it next? Very luxurious and offers me a range of 570 miles which supersedes any EV. Yeah I'll keep my jaguar XJl....
The coolant leaking issue is not just on Jag but also existing on all their RangeRovers...
Us British are proud to feature these weight reducing features on vehicles.
@@Blue-moon12 good job
Love my Jaguar XE.
Gorgeous car 👍.
Know someone who had one. He said it was very reliable.
Smart to buy a used Jaguar instead of new vehicle to minimize the depreciation cost.
There is still some money lost but a great deal can be had.
TY,,,,,,WOW incredible very interesting great information super kool,
AAAAAAAAAAA++++++++++++ ,keep up the great work.
I am buying a 2023 CPO F-Pace SVR next week. So pumped to own this V8 beast. Full warranty. Don't care about cost of ownership with this one. It's a legend that is going away soon. If it turns out to be a lemon, so be it I will deal with that and get a different vehicle. But I'm betting it;ll be fine. YOLO
Good luck with getting your jaguar through emissions.😮
I.Miss. My. Audi. So. Badly. Its sitting on the side of the house with a seized supercharged 3.0 V6
Sad that Jaguars went from the XJS and XKE to what they are now.
Yes, it’s sad that they are probably more reliable than they have ever been.
I also have a ford era 2008 XJ no problems whatsoever. So I do not agree that Ford messed up Jaguar. In fact , just the opposite! Now that Tata has taken it over, major problems and everything else - and let's not talk about the HORRIBLE styling.
You would rather own a heavy jag then a Corvette. I feel that's a stretch.(Bmw owner)
How much was the used Jaguar? I missed that part.
I paid 75k for mine
I see, thank you.
while I love Jaguar, admittedly, it does suffer from it's fair share of maladies, but apart from the Japanese brands, it's no worse than it's other European counterparts. There's far fewer Jaguars on the road so statistically a few problems translates into a higher % failure rate. 5 Jaguars failing when 100 is sold is 5% vs 5 BMW's in a market that has 1000 ! Jaguar still makes some of the most wonderful cars.
Wonderful for sure.
That F-Type R has 575 hp.
I alwwys enjoy your videos. I find that Jaguar is still suffering their credibility that was destroyed way back when they were owned by British Leyland. Ford changed all that, and i think their bad reputatoon is obsolete. My F-type R has performed flawlessly for years. I wouldn't hesitate to buy another. I had a Corvette Z06 with the mighty LS7 and was told it was a ticking time bomb, as it would drop one of those huge valves and destroy the engine. Never happened. The big V8 in my SL63 AMG is also supposed to be a brick waiting to happen. 13 years and still no problem. Perhaps I have just been lucky, but i'm enjoying premium cars that i bought at deeply depreciated prices.
You are totally right, its the old reputation that hurt the Jag brand the most. Far more than reality and my experience has also been at least as reliable as anything else from the likes of Benz or Bimmer and honestly so far even better. A little maintenance keep abuse off the table and they will run for a long time.
Isn’t it funny how people will just not let go of the past, even though the true reality is that modern jags are pretty good. The other complicating factor that haunts them beyond their past is the current reality that there are quite a few problems on the Land Rover Range Rover side of the house. So perhaps they get some reliability guilt by association. It’s seems odd that the LR RR side would be so much worse for issues, but it is.
Dude! You get it, there are DEALS to be gotten within the brand. Just pad your offer and you'll be fine. Jag has made some of the most beautiful motorcars of our time.....E TYPE anyone? Your like me, you can afford to pay when work needs to be done so just BUY SMARTLY and you'll enjoy beautiful English styling and luxury!
The kitty of despair….. 😂
Haha, cheers
Merry Xmas man 🎄
Merry Christmas to you and yours as well. Have a great holiday season.
@@ECPP Same to you and your loved ones 🙏🏼
I still want an F-Type.
The problem of the US market is poor maintenance.
I don't change my Toyota Corolla ❤️ for nothing else...
If it works then no point in replacing it
Mine have been reliable. People who buy these things do not do the deserved meticulous maintenance on these cars so they depreciate prematurely.
JAGWUAR
Haha, nice, I get that all the time
How cheap ? I’ll buy one for myself, also any cheap Range Rover ? once you drive those machines a new Camry or a Rav-4 feels like a “transportation” 😂
WICH JAGUAR DID YOU BOUGHT
Jag
Love your content.
Please stop hitting the screen.
🙁
You can probably make a decent living specializing in repairing Jaguars and Landrovers.
Exactly
If only XK-Es were SO cheap...
second mark .. joy christmans with japan cars not with fFrankenstein jaguar🥳
Thanks for watching
@@ECPP thanks for uploading
tata kind of gave land rover and range rover more over jag ..now ..its kind of dead .. here in india iam actaully finding a good well maintained jag actually
“Life’s too short to drive unreliable cars!”
Nice
the real reason y they are so cheap because they r all mazda well dress up
They ar cheap because they are junk. The two best days in a jags owners life is the day they buy and the day they sell it 😂
Nice
Ill take the new vette .
Maybe the Z06, but I test drove the new Stingray, and the F Type R has better punch on the fly as well sounds a lot better. I even drove the Vette with the upgraded “race exhaust” and the V8 Jag still sounded better.
@@ECPP lets go Brandon !
@@ECPPC8 is ugly as sin in comparison as well. Z06 improves on things a bit though. Proportions are better.
High maintenance !
So basically what you’re telling me is if you know your house is on fire, you’re gonna walk into it anyway knowing that it’s on fire, at some point, since he’s got a kick and it doesn’t matter if you have the money or not it’s a complete idiotic move, you might go buy yourself a key in the Hyundai, to you since money doesn’t matter
Hyundai is both problematic and boring, so that would be a strong NO. At least a Jaguar is fun and a Corolla is reliable.
I just wish I could understand what the hell you are saying.
That's easy. They're cheap on the used market because they're junk. 😂😂 Same as the German cars. Great for a couple of years and then reliability plummets.
Jags were never meant to be for daily commutes. These were just cars meant to be driven 5k a year to the country club and back.
The problem is with suburbanites using these cars for their commutes and placing stresses on them which they were never built to withstand.
If you drove the jag for only 5k a year I doubt reliability would be an issue.
The same goes for people who buy a truck with a v8 and complain about fuel economy.
Thanks for sharing.
Rather have a Volvo
Nice cars but less sporty than Jaguars.
True Volvos are nice but Jags are a bigger focus on torquey engines
@@zsb707 True very true , but the are not reliable and Volvo are hands down.