@@MitsaelT SUV (sport utility vehicle) were initially intended for people who NEED off-road capabilities and high ground clearance, who actually go off-road, like mountain rangers and stuff. It was a niche class. American companies took advantage of those cars different class to avoid emission standards and started marketing to regular people. They are larger, use more fuel, are more dangerous, louder and don't even have much more space than regular sedans. Just google about it, there are many videos and texts about all that.
@@axelode45 That's more an indictment on modern interiors than it is on previous gen ones. I can't think of anyone who would take the clusterf**k that is a modern Ferrari interior over one from the 599/458 generation.
I'd take this interior over the new MB interiors any day of the week. Much more intuitive and physical buttons that aren't a nuisance with everything being some form of capacitive touch in newer cars nowadays. Another benefit to the prior infotainment is at least the dash has a semblance of interior design compared to huge screen in the new products from MB. There's nothing luxury about a big screen stuck on a desk
You are a real pioneer in HDR department. I subscribe to many TH-cam auto channels but you are the first to introduce it. Heck, you are the first non HDR channel to deliver 'regular' content in HDR. Thank you for that! Regards from Poland!
I don't trust the fuel economy numbers. Mercedes cars are adaptive. The vehicle takes like two weeks to learn the driver's usual patterns. After that you usually see I jump in fuel economy. With my benz when I first got it I got like 25 mpg after two weeks or so I regularly saw 35 mgp I can even get 40 mpg if I'm paying attention to it.
To be fair, the selling proposition of the Mercedes brand has never been that they're the best value for money in any segment. There are segments where you can make a decent argument that nobody in the class precisely matches their product, notably the S Class, although even there it sounds like the 7 is making that tougher.
I love that you guys hold Mercedes accountable for their embarrassing cost cutting measures. Especially with the safety features. Adaptive cruise should be standard
@@Justin_GFM It’s 2023 we’re not in the stone age plus many of the mainstream manufacturers have it as standard. It’s embarrassing that you pay upwards of 6 figures for a pretty well loaded Mercedes Benz and you still have to pay extra for a safety feature that’s standard that’s been standard of years on economy cars. But that’s just my opinion
Adaptive cruise has nothing to do with safety, unless driver is watching corn while driving or does some other stuff on the phone like most drivers in the US
I expect if from VW (not really), bit its absolutely shameless for all this ugly cheap plastic to be in a Mercedes. Yes, I know, they're used as taxis in Europe. But in North America we only get the full loaded versions.
At $93,000, the Durango and Kia comparisons are pretty crushing (although loaded Durangos inexplicably cost real money themselves). Agree with the comment below that the honesty is, as always, refreshing and something we've come to depend on in a Savagegeese review.
Durangos are awful what the fuck are you talking about..the interior alone speaks for itself in the Durango. There are better alternatives but suggesting the Durango is one of them is hilarious.
People that buy BMW and Mercedes don't care if it rides well or is quiet or if it even looks good. They just want the badge on the back, and that's exactly what they're buying with this.
That’s not true at all, listen. I understand that classist products like this are unnecessary, but and that’s a broad swath statement. Badge is great totally but I like my Lexus and bmw because of how they drive offering comfy luxury and sporty attributes when I want them. You’re totally allowed to make fun and it also just sounds like someone who’s never actually owned a vehicle like this and I just wonder if you spent a year with one of these what your take away would be.
Nah, it has to ride good, and drive good, or else it’s another brand I am getting. Badge means nothing to me, driving experience it’s what counts, and that’s why when car shopping, I test drive as many cars as possible, from mundane Kias to expensive luxury wannabes.
I drove this two years back and REALLLLLLYYY wanted it. $95K and didn't even have the A/C seat option on the one I drove. Incredibly fun to drive and fast. Yet.... I love the KIA reference...I "settled" for a Telluride SX-Prestige for half the price. It pained me not to continue my MB ownership after an E550 Coupe and E550 sedan over the last ten years but no regrets.
i can kinda see why it pained u, but not exactly, given how supposedly nice Telluride is. These MB's are unimginably overpriced. U always buy them used, duh.
@@18_rabbit The KIA is terrific but it has no turbo motor or performance option. That's reserved for the Genesis GV80 which I also looked at. Good thing I decided how I did; apparently GV80's are eating rear ends and Genesis hasn't sorted them out yet. Guess that turbo power and a normal diff isn't getting it done
The GLE is a great car but as a big Benz fan I myself would avoid this 53 model, either go full fledged 63s or go to non AMG models. Also I agree about the money pinching by Mercedes, as much as I love them, I hate them for that. We must put pressure on these greedy scumbags to give us more no extra costs standard features
scumbags is not what they are. They r simply able to charge a premium for the 'class' status of the brand and the adittedly impressive overall engineering prowess. Bmw, while excellent, is just not at MB level in quality/durability/longevity (and thus value or risk to owning)
I personally think the car is fine some of us don't want a v8 and if you have the money to spend it then I personally don't give a crap what people think.
You guys are very knowledgable and I like your videos, I always learn something. MY POV is that MB, porsche, Audi and BMW are all really good cars. Just ordered a new 2024 AMG GLE 53 W warts and all, though I almost cancelled to order a Porsche because MB deleted an option from my build that I really wanted without any notice. I was told to feel lucky that they did not send me a post card simply saying "Piss Off". However I have driven MB for 20 plus years. I would say that your comment that the car rode like "ass" while funny, is something I have not heard before, most people say that it rides very well. Yes I ordered the 21" wheels instead of the 22" wheels as I wanted to avoid the "STIFFER"ride. Putting all that aside, you guys are great and I really enjoy your videos. Keep it up.
Uh. No. Between the engine, transmission and suspension tuning, interior amenities this SUV is pretty reasonably priced. I don't see how you can say this looks like a $40,000 car lmao.
@@hexagonosaurus5848 if you need a trunk bigger than a Prius, these sedans, while very nice, simply won't cut it. I wish I could buy a wagon BMW 3-series in the US, like, a M340i touring. I couldn't so I got a X3 M40i, it's still pretty good...
if i had the money, yes. Especially if i also had a regular Suv namely the Toyota new Landcruiser, assuming it's even sold in the US, not sure. @@questionyourself718
Wel) that being said I love my gle 53 amg!!! It rides very good, very comfy and luxurious on the inside. Also when you put it in S+ mode, it really does sound like a V8. So I am happy with mine. Those guys who reviewed it just don't see the fun of it.
Nickle and diming standard features in high end vehicles seems like a pretty German car company thing to do. We got a Audi Q5 in May and it just spent the last month in the shop getting the steering sorted out. During that time we had a Honda Civic loaner vehicle and it has adaptive cruise and a touch screen on the infotainment amongst other things the Q5 didn't have unles you could find one with those options which we could not. Seems silly. And on another note, is it just me or is Mercedes Benz just dropping the ball on all of their vehicles lately?
Yeah I agree to buy either the high end V8 or lower end 350. The problem is the lower end version does not feel like a luxury SUV. No ventilated seats. No back seat climate control. 255hp motor. Same with driver amenities. At $70k you're getting a shell. And the high end AMG 63 is over $100k. To get a decently optioned GLE you will need to pay over $80k. Its why I did not buy/lease a 3rd one. I priced it out online and it was $84k for what I want which is a well appointed SUV but not over the top. I bought elsewhere.
So I can't deny how crazy expecnsive the benzes are but then again it's been that way for years. Technically the version you wanted to drive was a the gle 450. The 53 amg is the sport version of the 450.
They were cheaper. Before the the pandemic. In January of 2019 I bought an amg gle 43 for 20% off msrp no hassle. That’s worth it. Now..no way in hell lol
Most vehicles have it as an option these days. At least more expensive vehicles. Usually comes with a package anyways that is put on most vehicles from the port.
Having traded an RDX (2021) for a 2023 GLB lease. I quickly found out, that for a Mercedes to feel very luxurious…everything has to be optioned out. I ended up taking a $53-55,000 GLB in order to feel like I had a substantial upgrade over the RDX.
Right? I kept looking at MB/Audi/BMW's websites and configuring options to get what I wanted, and it started to bug me that basic safety shit like radar cruise are still extra cost when my wife's CR-V had it as standard equipment. (lemme sound like a Honda fanboy for a sec, because waaaaay back in, I think 1978, Road & Track published their very first test drive of the then-new Accord, and they made a big deal about how the car included so many standard features that were typically extra options from other manufacturers... I guess some things never change)
@@LJ-wo1wf I don’t know, but somethings like the safety features, should definitely be standard. Especially for the starting price that they ask for any of the Euro luxury brands.
You literally downgraded. The GLB is the piece of shit model that gets a cheap ass parts from the left over bin and gets a Mercedes start slapped on it. FWD for the Germans are all dogshit lets be honest.
I absolutely love how they purposely did not clean this vehicle up! This is a utility vehicle and people need to see how these things look after people live in them! Love this channel! Keep the content coming!
Hard to imagine buying or even leasing a car that does so little for so much money compared to even basic offerings from other manufacturers. Personal opinion, I don't think I would ever buy something in the guise of a "Luxury" product. I'm paying for capability, and if it comes with cloth seats, so be it. I definitely don't mind doing my part to try and reduce the ever increasing car prices slowly pricing working people out of transportation in the US.
I can't criticize those who have the money for wanting the experience of a luxury product, but I think your first sentence cuts to the heart of the problem: Whether a luxury customer or a regular Joe/Jane, it's impossible to justify paying full-on luxury prices and not getting a full-on luxury product.
Made a similar comment about the EQS. It's a struggle to find the appeal of this product beyond imagining that if you had *so much* disposable income that it didn't matter what you spent. But then, as was mentioned, it's not even the most capable, or the most comfortable, so who is it for? "Stretching" your budget for something so expensive gives the impression you're not the target market.
yeah, and then working ppl at the bottom will cost a ton more to whatever industry they're in, OR gvt will have to subsidize them, as they should, given the far-too-quick implementations of zero emissions in places like my state, Washington and other states now in the U.S. Here the new fuel industry tax has screwed the little guy, bcuz fuel rose ten percent due to it and only little ppl rely on cars to drive FAR to get to work. Worst regressive tax in american modern history IMHO, at THE worst moment to do it, i.e the worst inflation since ancient days. And im' very very politically liberal, so that's really saying something. We dem's are shooting ourselves in the feet here in WA and it's a risky thing to do at this stage of history.
Too bad this didn't have the Driver Assistance Package. The adaptive cruise control, lane keep and active steering is honestly the best thing about the vehicle. On long trips it's a godsend.
This car is a pass it should have the V8 in the 580 to be worth it. I recommend you pick the 580 or the 63s based on what you value more comfort or performance. Skip all the other variants of GLE except 450 of you want a low cost option.
Ouch I own a 53. Haha but I was ordering a 450 with E ABC, got cancelled so rolled into a 53 with active ride control. Handles great but I spent more time in dealer for recalls and warranty works.
I'll chime in on what's going on with GLEs, as a family member owns a GLE 53 albeit fully optioned at around 105K. First, MB is more "Porsche-fied" in pricing these days, and adding options like active ride control and AMG track package will make a huge difference in handling and ride qualities similar to Cayenne's PDCC&RAS. MB's traction control however is intrusive as usual, so you are not going to get oversteery characteristics but rather neutral to understeer. What you are going to get are nice massage seats, premium interior (go for the exclusive full beige leather!), huge rear seats and trunk space - biggest in the segment AFAIK. It is more SUV than a Cayenne for sure, but also for less money pound for pound. Of course because the price difference isn't huge, we tried to get the 63S at first, but there's essentially a stop-sale on all V8 4.0 models (including GLE580, GLE63S) this year, likely to meet the stupid emissions regulations. I suspect this is also why GLC63S V8 models never came to the US since last year.
This is just Mercedes Benz that holds on and tries to get their clients still into sedans and stationwagons. Just by keeping their SUV's bad and expensive. Thx MB!
Well, that's what you yanks want don't you stupid big boat SUV's ? So you get what you want don't you ? You hate sedans and station wagons , we call them estates elsewhere , and the German wagons are super super fast and great all rounder daily drivers but you yanks are oblivious to them and stick to your SUV craze . So there you go ! So stop complaining about expensive big boat SUV's that don't ride or handle that great. You wanted them you got them , period !
@@k0zzu21 Very true. I 'd prefer a great German wagon like the Audi RS6 Avant , the MB AMG E53 estate or the new BMW M3 Touring , they are great riding, handling ,practical and super fast all rounders than a big expensive SUV any day !
the durango looks nothing like this inside, what are these two smoking? I get the questionable value of this product, but if nothing else it looks pretty darn good with the panamericana grill
I bought a '24 63s. I considered the '53 but by the time I added up all the options that came standard with the 63s there was only about a$15k difference in price so.....hello '63s...it's been a great car so far with only 1 gripe: those haptic controls on the steering wheel....I can't count how many times I have changed the radio without wanting to!
I thought mbux was the gold standard in infotainment? If it’s not what is the best infotainment system now? I like it because it’s touch screen, touch pad, or voice control. Best of all worlds. Not sure what you mean when you say it’s “not the best”… when all the other reviewers rant and rave about it.
Except, it isn't $93k. At my local dealer that thing goes for $120$ without extras and the 63 AMG starts at $190k. You've got to be quite dumb to pay that price for a non-S-class tier Mercedes.
Mercedes has really become stronger in the "nickel and diming" department, frankly their offerings all cost more than their class competitors while really not adding anything over them. AMGs need a chiropractic subscription, they charge you for unbelievably basic equipment like adaptive cruise control, and the creaks on the interiors really just don't inspire me to spend more on a Mercedes compared to their competitors.
At this point, people who would buy this belong to a cult of Mercedes. Specs, reliability, and usability/feasibility mean nothing to them; just the prestige.
Running gear is the same for the 53 and 63. The difference is the 0-60 and top speed - speed you simply cant use on modern roads - ergo the only reason to buy a 63 is to say you have one. Let the ego go and save 30% on purchase price even more on depreciation and then a ton on running costs….the 53 begins to make sense
if they meant the Telluride, everybody pops the corks over how that car supposedly feels more expensive than its $50,000, so until you try to turn corners it's not that much of a stretch.
Thank you for the video, super concise and on-point - love it!! Also, I would love to know your thoughts on 350 vs 450 - is the 6 cylinder worth the extra $?. Or, would you go for a 580 or a 63 considering the price difference?
The X5 M50i (now X5 M60i on the refresh) is similar in price, has a lot more power (523 HP, in the 3’s 0-60 and low 12’s in the quarter), and has good handling with a decent enough ride. The one I test drive was $96K, but it was loaded with massaging seats (amazing) and the big money Bowers and Wilkins sound system. I’d take that all day over this Benz
No, I mean that click on top middle of the touch pad is a shortcut to bring up media control, where you swipe left or right for prev/next track.@@savagegeese
I love the comments about how it rides like trash. These giant wheels in all cars (even some less expensive ones) is starting to become ridiculous. I'm so happy I didn't go for the bigger wheels or the run-flats in my X3, and as a consequence, it actually is comfortable! Note about the title / description : Did you mean Audi SQ7 ? (and not SQ5?) the Q5 is in the same size category as the GLC not the GLE.
On the subject of SUVs, I know it’s not your usual fare, but I’d love to see you guys get a Ferrari Purosangue into The Shoppe to analyze its interesting new suspension tech that negates the need for anti-roll bars. No one does a technical analysis on things like that better than you guys 🤓
I think you mean the GLE has 6 different trims / engines, which is something Mercedes has always offered. Like how you could get an ML 350, 320 CDI, 550 or 63. Also I think the GL was also in production by 2008, and the R-Class if you want to consider that an SUV.
So V8 and GLE as an option, would you think about a GLE 580? It's not an AMG but it would have a V8 and still outperform the 53 in power/speed but be more "refined" like the 350/450 GLEs. Thoughts?
2:55 to fix your gripe, Jack, as a sort of "secondary" owner to my grandpa's 2022 gle350, you can make a shortcut to skip tracks, at least on Carplay. on the left gauge screen, press the home button and go to Media. there, you should see the song playing; you can swipe up/down to skip tracks. other than that i pretty much agree with his pros and cons about the car. i can't talk about the powertrain much since i've only got the 350 but still it's a decent car to drive as far as new mercedes products go. it's easier to drive/use than the EQS450 my uncle let me drive around LA once, at least.
I put an order for amg 53 w 3 rows , 84k waited 11 months during 21’-22’ summer, pretty sure dealer skip me over since I locked msrp, and they probably under sold me, no matter, they returned my deposit and I got a 23’ ford timberline expedition w way more space n capability 440 hp 510 lb towing my boat w ease , yes I paid a little more for the ford and loving it
Out of all of the "half-baked" AMG 53/43 offerings from Mercedes, what is the @savagegeese model of choice? I personally like the idea of a CPO E53/E43 sedan once they've gotten demolished by depreciation.
Any time I see a Coupe SUV, I look to see who was stupid enough to buy a car that sucks as an SUV and sucks as a sedan - the worst of both worlds. And yea, they always look ... special.
Should've put a B58 in it
😂😂😂
Best comment
The B58 just becoming the plug in engine for every car
It would probably be a lot more reliable with a B58
because BMW doesn’t make a car good enough?
At 93k, there are so many options for basically everything, so ANY car has to make a really strong case for itself at that price.
"Coupefied SUVs are an abomination..." well played, Jack.
He’s got my vote.
Well, all modern SUVs are an abomination, they are mostly driven by people who don't need an SUV in the first place.
@@white_shadow_123ive heard ppl say this. Why though??
@@MitsaelT SUV (sport utility vehicle) were initially intended for people who NEED off-road capabilities and high ground clearance, who actually go off-road, like mountain rangers and stuff. It was a niche class.
American companies took advantage of those cars different class to avoid emission standards and started marketing to regular people. They are larger, use more fuel, are more dangerous, louder and don't even have much more space than regular sedans. Just google about it, there are many videos and texts about all that.
@@white_shadow_123people want it.. case closed
I really love the brutal honesty in these reviews.
Those geese are SAVAGE
the fact that this cars cabin is 'older looking' is crazy
Yeah I thought it looked pretty modern and clean
@@axelode45 That's more an indictment on modern interiors than it is on previous gen ones.
I can't think of anyone who would take the clusterf**k that is a modern Ferrari interior over one from the 599/458 generation.
@@deanchur Have seat time in a 2020 812 and it's pretty last gen (in a good way). No idea why the other models get so mangled.
I'd take this interior over the new MB interiors any day of the week. Much more intuitive and physical buttons that aren't a nuisance with everything being some form of capacitive touch in newer cars nowadays. Another benefit to the prior infotainment is at least the dash has a semblance of interior design compared to huge screen in the new products from MB. There's nothing luxury about a big screen stuck on a desk
Yea that was a pretty dim comment
You are a real pioneer in HDR department. I subscribe to many TH-cam auto channels but you are the first to introduce it. Heck, you are the first non HDR channel to deliver 'regular' content in HDR. Thank you for that! Regards from Poland!
about as much fuel economy as a 911 turbo s, great job
And worse than a BMW V8
That's not the diss you think it is, it weighs 40% more
I don't trust the fuel economy numbers.
Mercedes cars are adaptive. The vehicle takes like two weeks to learn the driver's usual patterns.
After that you usually see I jump in fuel economy.
With my benz when I first got it I got like 25 mpg after two weeks or so I regularly saw 35 mgp I can even get 40 mpg if I'm paying attention to it.
@@shamarbovell4457 thats all modern luxury cars... they still are awful.its not getting that high no matter what.
I don’t think there is a price point at which I would buy a Mercedes right now.
To be fair, the selling proposition of the Mercedes brand has never been that they're the best value for money in any segment. There are segments where you can make a decent argument that nobody in the class precisely matches their product, notably the S Class, although even there it sounds like the 7 is making that tougher.
You don’t buy these, you lease.
@@yzhan225why?
Maybe the A45S as a super-hot-hatch
@@mullayho1759
It sounds so bad, especially for its price and having the AMG badge on it.
I love that you guys hold Mercedes accountable for their embarrassing cost cutting measures. Especially with the safety features. Adaptive cruise should be standard
Why should adaptive cruise control be standard?
@@Justin_GFM It’s 2023 we’re not in the stone age plus many of the mainstream manufacturers have it as standard. It’s embarrassing that you pay upwards of 6 figures for a pretty well loaded Mercedes Benz and you still have to pay extra for a safety feature that’s standard that’s been standard of years on economy cars. But that’s just my opinion
@@Justin_GFMour 2019 Subaru forester has it. The latest Prius has it. The most boring cars on the planet have it. Inexcusable
Adaptive cruise has nothing to do with safety, unless driver is watching corn while driving or does some other stuff on the phone like most drivers in the US
I expect if from VW (not really), bit its absolutely shameless for all this ugly cheap plastic to be in a Mercedes. Yes, I know, they're used as taxis in Europe. But in North America we only get the full loaded versions.
I did not expect this to cost as much as it does when Jack went over prices, gawd damn
Welcome to post covid 2023. Make cars cheaper yet charge more.
X5 40i is 100kcdn. Silly.
@@TermlessHGWi was about to say the same thing pre covid, you could pay for 2 of these for the price of one currently, it’s ridiculous
SL43 (4 cylinder) review will be interesting
Heck, I’d say the GLE 580 is a better value than this 53
oh yeah more power and comfort probably the trim to get
Problem is it doesn’t drive or look nearly as good
I agree, but you sacrifice AMG handling, suspension, magic etc for just that V8.
@@quan2x293tbh are people even using all that handling stuff in a GLE? I could understand a c or E class but the GLE is pretty much a soccer mom car.
@@quan2x293they specifically say It rides badly. It is not very fun to drive and not comfortable totally pointless
Your videos lower my blood pressure and soothe my hemorrhoids
Watched the whole video already and can certify that this is a spoonkid classic
Final thoughts: The car is pure ass.
If it isn't doing 0 to 60 in 3.5 seconds your assessment is correct😂
Spot on 😂
Not the good kind of ass either
@@cmontes7961 Seriously, at these prices, if a kid hauler doesn't also do that, what can it do to be worth $93,000?
spoken like a true poor man
At $93,000, the Durango and Kia comparisons are pretty crushing (although loaded Durangos inexplicably cost real money themselves). Agree with the comment below that the honesty is, as always, refreshing and something we've come to depend on in a Savagegeese review.
Not the unreliable durango there are much better cars to compare lollol
Durangos are awful what the fuck are you talking about..the interior alone speaks for itself in the Durango. There are better alternatives but suggesting the Durango is one of them is hilarious.
@@trollololol69fit and finish in a modern Mercedes? You clearly haven't been in one.
@@trollololol69he classic Mercedes creaks and plastic touch surfaces?
@@CortMarshal I own a GLE 53 and the materials are top notch. have YOU been in one? let alone owned one?
I rented a GLE 400D in the UK for a week and fell in love with the car. Really wish we got those modern diesel powertrains in the US.
Thanks to VW diesels are gone from North America and won't be coming back anytime soon.
People that buy BMW and Mercedes don't care if it rides well or is quiet or if it even looks good. They just want the badge on the back, and that's exactly what they're buying with this.
Would agree with SUVs, sport sedans and GT cars though, they are hard to beat, mostly because no one wants to compete in that market.
That’s not true at all, listen. I understand that classist products like this are unnecessary, but and that’s a broad swath statement. Badge is great totally but I like my Lexus and bmw because of how they drive offering comfy luxury and sporty attributes when I want them. You’re totally allowed to make fun and it also just sounds like someone who’s never actually owned a vehicle like this and I just wonder if you spent a year with one of these what your take away would be.
Nah, it has to ride good, and drive good, or else it’s another brand I am getting. Badge means nothing to me, driving experience it’s what counts, and that’s why when car shopping, I test drive as many cars as possible, from mundane Kias to expensive luxury wannabes.
only in america
$100k is the new $70k.
The Bronco Sport is looking good these days!
Ouch!
At least it has a 6 banger unlike the new C63 which is a 4 banger 😅😂😂
@@v____lit was a comment about the title more than anything calm down
@@v____l Well if you’re comparing the GLE 53 to an X5, it would be the X5 M60i which has a V8, IF we wanna get all technical lol
The clown show that is AMG now
@@mikeicee amg gt and sl seem to be still good. For all the other cars i agree. Soulless tech fests for IT Nerds.
Don’t remind me. I cry and cringe everytime I think about MB daring to put the 63 name on a 4 CYLINDER.
I drove this two years back and REALLLLLLYYY wanted it. $95K and didn't even have the A/C seat option on the one I drove. Incredibly fun to drive and fast. Yet....
I love the KIA reference...I "settled" for a Telluride SX-Prestige for half the price. It pained me not to continue my MB ownership after an E550 Coupe and E550 sedan over the last ten years but no regrets.
i can kinda see why it pained u, but not exactly, given how supposedly nice Telluride is. These MB's are unimginably overpriced. U always buy them used, duh.
@@18_rabbit The KIA is terrific but it has no turbo motor or performance option. That's reserved for the Genesis GV80 which I also looked at. Good thing I decided how I did; apparently GV80's are eating rear ends and Genesis hasn't sorted them out yet. Guess that turbo power and a normal diff isn't getting it done
The video isn't complete if the b58 isn't mentioned at least once in it 😂
The GLE is a great car but as a big Benz fan I myself would avoid this 53 model, either go full fledged 63s or go to non AMG models. Also I agree about the money pinching by Mercedes, as much as I love them, I hate them for that. We must put pressure on these greedy scumbags to give us more no extra costs standard features
Exactly, these brands have clearly adapted to people trying to min/max with trims and price.
Middle tiere tend to be also-rans, and not worth the trouble.
scumbags is not what they are. They r simply able to charge a premium for the 'class' status of the brand and the adittedly impressive overall engineering prowess. Bmw, while excellent, is just not at MB level in quality/durability/longevity (and thus value or risk to owning)
I personally think the car is fine some of us don't want a v8 and if you have the money to spend it then I personally don't give a crap what people think.
Can’t wait for Mark’s update on his X7. Seems to have been a much better experience with it than with his previous Volvo.
He did an update on it a few months back already
Buy a GLE 450 and get this 53amg grill installed myself 😊
You guys are very knowledgable and I like your videos, I always learn something. MY POV is that MB, porsche, Audi and BMW are all really good cars. Just ordered a new 2024 AMG GLE 53 W warts and all, though I almost cancelled to order a Porsche because MB deleted an option from my build that I really wanted without any notice. I was told to feel lucky that they did not send me a post card simply saying "Piss Off". However I have driven MB for 20 plus years. I would say that your comment that the car rode like "ass" while funny, is something I have not heard before, most people say that it rides very well. Yes I ordered the 21" wheels instead of the 22" wheels as I wanted to avoid the "STIFFER"ride. Putting all that aside, you guys are great and I really enjoy your videos. Keep it up.
Probably can’t afford one.
$93K for that thing? What?! Looks like a $40K - $45K car maximum. And with depreciation it will be worth about $20K in 5 years. Insane.
Uh. No. Between the engine, transmission and suspension tuning, interior amenities this SUV is pretty reasonably priced.
I don't see how you can say this looks like a $40,000 car lmao.
Dude in what world does that look like a $40k car LMAO that makes it seem as though you've been out of touch with the industry for the past 5 years.
Hard to make the case for this when the GLE 580 exists (not to mention the SQ7/SQ8 and X5).
Those are all ass, get an S class, A8 or a 7 series. Its 2023 and people still buy these icecream vans 😢
@@hexagonosaurus5848 if you need a trunk bigger than a Prius, these sedans, while very nice, simply won't cut it. I wish I could buy a wagon BMW 3-series in the US, like, a M340i touring. I couldn't so I got a X3 M40i, it's still pretty good...
@@MrTresto serious question: would you buy a M340i Wagon of somebody imported them to the USA?
if i had the money, yes. Especially if i also had a regular Suv namely the Toyota new Landcruiser, assuming it's even sold in the US, not sure.
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Wel) that being said I love my gle 53 amg!!! It rides very good, very comfy and luxurious on the inside. Also when you put it in S+ mode, it really does sound like a V8. So I am happy with mine. Those guys who reviewed it just don't see the fun of it.
Love Mark's constant stink face...😂
Mark is annoyed with everything everywhere and rightfully so.
When u said 93 thousand dollars i almost spit my coffee out😂
Do not v8 for ze bigger engine.
Are these made in Alabama?
Yes it is. In Tuscaloosa Alabama
Nickle and diming standard features in high end vehicles seems like a pretty German car company thing to do. We got a Audi Q5 in May and it just spent the last month in the shop getting the steering sorted out. During that time we had a Honda Civic loaner vehicle and it has adaptive cruise and a touch screen on the infotainment amongst other things the Q5 didn't have unles you could find one with those options which we could not. Seems silly.
And on another note, is it just me or is Mercedes Benz just dropping the ball on all of their vehicles lately?
Betcha they've shifted all the R&D onto their EVs and are mailing in the rest.
S-class seems to be still good but the rest of their models became ass. Bmw and Audi win in every other category.
Yeah I agree to buy either the high end V8 or lower end 350. The problem is the lower end version does not feel like a luxury SUV. No ventilated seats. No back seat climate control. 255hp motor. Same with driver amenities. At $70k you're getting a shell. And the high end AMG 63 is over $100k. To get a decently optioned GLE you will need to pay over $80k. Its why I did not buy/lease a 3rd one. I priced it out online and it was $84k for what I want which is a well appointed SUV but not over the top. I bought elsewhere.
So I can't deny how crazy expecnsive the benzes are but then again it's been that way for years. Technically the version you wanted to drive was a the gle 450. The 53 amg is the sport version of the 450.
Yeah benzes have never been cheap. My 93 500SL was 90k new in 1993 dollars which is insane.
They were cheaper. Before the the pandemic. In January of 2019 I bought an amg gle 43 for 20% off msrp no hassle. That’s worth it. Now..no way in hell lol
All of my neighbors will finally give me the respect I deserve when I pull up in this blasting Rammstein.
Adaptative cruise control is an option? That's unacceptable. A base Corolla comes with adpatative cruise control and a decent lane centering assist.
Most vehicles have it as an option these days. At least more expensive vehicles. Usually comes with a package anyways that is put on most vehicles from the port.
Having traded an RDX (2021) for a 2023 GLB lease. I quickly found out, that for a Mercedes to feel very luxurious…everything has to be optioned out. I ended up taking a $53-55,000 GLB in order to feel like I had a substantial upgrade over the RDX.
Right? I kept looking at MB/Audi/BMW's websites and configuring options to get what I wanted, and it started to bug me that basic safety shit like radar cruise are still extra cost when my wife's CR-V had it as standard equipment. (lemme sound like a Honda fanboy for a sec, because waaaaay back in, I think 1978, Road & Track published their very first test drive of the then-new Accord, and they made a big deal about how the car included so many standard features that were typically extra options from other manufacturers... I guess some things never change)
@@LJ-wo1wf I don’t know, but somethings like the safety features, should definitely be standard. Especially for the starting price that they ask for any of the Euro luxury brands.
@@sammyg4806 you could have bought a car for that money.
@@hexagonosaurus5848 Indeed, but it is a lease, so you don’t quite feel the hit as it happens 😂
You literally downgraded. The GLB is the piece of shit model that gets a cheap ass parts from the left over bin and gets a Mercedes start slapped on it. FWD for the Germans are all dogshit lets be honest.
Even a Forester comes with adaptive cruise control as standard. 😁
Lots of mid-priced cars do. But they're comparing it to their in-house measure. Not that of the industry standard. Poor measure.
You can skip between tracks by swiping left or right at the top of the touchpad in all Mercedes vehicles
I absolutely love how they purposely did not clean this vehicle up! This is a utility vehicle and people need to see how these things look after people live in them! Love this channel! Keep the content coming!
Hard to imagine buying or even leasing a car that does so little for so much money compared to even basic offerings from other manufacturers. Personal opinion, I don't think I would ever buy something in the guise of a "Luxury" product. I'm paying for capability, and if it comes with cloth seats, so be it. I definitely don't mind doing my part to try and reduce the ever increasing car prices slowly pricing working people out of transportation in the US.
I can't criticize those who have the money for wanting the experience of a luxury product, but I think your first sentence cuts to the heart of the problem: Whether a luxury customer or a regular Joe/Jane, it's impossible to justify paying full-on luxury prices and not getting a full-on luxury product.
Made a similar comment about the EQS. It's a struggle to find the appeal of this product beyond imagining that if you had *so much* disposable income that it didn't matter what you spent. But then, as was mentioned, it's not even the most capable, or the most comfortable, so who is it for? "Stretching" your budget for something so expensive gives the impression you're not the target market.
yeah, and then working ppl at the bottom will cost a ton more to whatever industry they're in, OR gvt will have to subsidize them, as they should, given the far-too-quick implementations of zero emissions in places like my state, Washington and other states now in the U.S. Here the new fuel industry tax has screwed the little guy, bcuz fuel rose ten percent due to it and only little ppl rely on cars to drive FAR to get to work. Worst regressive tax in american modern history IMHO, at THE worst moment to do it, i.e the worst inflation since ancient days. And im' very very politically liberal, so that's really saying something. We dem's are shooting ourselves in the feet here in WA and it's a risky thing to do at this stage of history.
Too bad this didn't have the Driver Assistance Package. The adaptive cruise control, lane keep and active steering is honestly the best thing about the vehicle. On long trips it's a godsend.
Too bad it cost $93,000 and still didn't have it.
Love the honesty in your review, I would love to see what you think of the GLS 580 or GLS 63 and maybe a real comparison with the X7.
$93k and I've forgotten what it looks like while writing this.
This car is a pass it should have the V8 in the 580 to be worth it.
I recommend you pick the 580 or the 63s based on what you value more comfort or performance.
Skip all the other variants of GLE except 450 of you want a low cost option.
Ouch I own a 53. Haha but I was ordering a 450 with E ABC, got cancelled so rolled into a 53 with active ride control. Handles great but I spent more time in dealer for recalls and warranty works.
I'll chime in on what's going on with GLEs, as a family member owns a GLE 53 albeit fully optioned at around 105K. First, MB is more "Porsche-fied" in pricing these days, and adding options like active ride control and AMG track package will make a huge difference in handling and ride qualities similar to Cayenne's PDCC&RAS. MB's traction control however is intrusive as usual, so you are not going to get oversteery characteristics but rather neutral to understeer. What you are going to get are nice massage seats, premium interior (go for the exclusive full beige leather!), huge rear seats and trunk space - biggest in the segment AFAIK. It is more SUV than a Cayenne for sure, but also for less money pound for pound.
Of course because the price difference isn't huge, we tried to get the 63S at first, but there's essentially a stop-sale on all V8 4.0 models (including GLE580, GLE63S) this year, likely to meet the stupid emissions regulations. I suspect this is also why GLC63S V8 models never came to the US since last year.
Would my choice of X6-40i (not the V8 version) be a better choice in terms of looks, handling and overall money's worth?
This is just Mercedes Benz that holds on and tries to get their clients still into sedans and stationwagons. Just by keeping their SUV's bad and expensive. Thx MB!
Well, that's what you yanks want don't you stupid big boat SUV's ?
So you get what you want don't you ?
You hate sedans and station wagons , we call them estates elsewhere ,
and the German wagons are super super fast and great all rounder daily drivers
but you yanks are oblivious to them and stick to your SUV craze .
So there you go !
So stop complaining about expensive big boat SUV's that don't ride or handle that great.
You wanted them you got them , period !
Well a wagon is superior in every way. It respects the laws of physics.
@@k0zzu21 Very true.
I 'd prefer a great German wagon like the Audi RS6 Avant , the MB AMG E53 estate or the new BMW M3 Touring , they are great riding, handling ,practical and super fast all rounders than a big expensive SUV any day !
Save 18k and buy an Acura MDX Type S
Video quality is very amazing keep it up.
the durango looks nothing like this inside, what are these two smoking?
I get the questionable value of this product, but if nothing else it looks pretty darn good with the panamericana grill
I bought a '24 63s. I considered the '53 but by the time I added up all the options that came standard with the 63s there was only about a$15k difference in price so.....hello '63s...it's been a great car so far with only 1 gripe: those haptic controls on the steering wheel....I can't count how many times I have changed the radio without wanting to!
I thought mbux was the gold standard in infotainment? If it’s not what is the best infotainment system now? I like it because it’s touch screen, touch pad, or voice control. Best of all worlds. Not sure what you mean when you say it’s “not the best”… when all the other reviewers rant and rave about it.
I feel like the average cost to get in a german luxury car is now $70k
wait till next year or two or there and buy a 2-4 y.o. unit. Duh.
Except, it isn't $93k. At my local dealer that thing goes for $120$ without extras and the 63 AMG starts at $190k. You've got to be quite dumb to pay that price for a non-S-class tier Mercedes.
I enjoy your HDR content thanks for uploading 4K hdr
I’m getting blinded in bed
I think there is an easier way to skip tracks with a swipe gesture at the top of the touch pad.
Mercedes has really become stronger in the "nickel and diming" department, frankly their offerings all cost more than their class competitors while really not adding anything over them. AMGs need a chiropractic subscription, they charge you for unbelievably basic equipment like adaptive cruise control, and the creaks on the interiors really just don't inspire me to spend more on a Mercedes compared to their competitors.
If it's ridding hard are you in comfort mode?
Get the Porsche 🙂
I will
At this point, people who would buy this belong to a cult of Mercedes. Specs, reliability, and usability/feasibility mean nothing to them; just the prestige.
GLE/ML has always been my favorite SUV from Mercedes Benz as far as design.
Running gear is the same for the 53 and 63. The difference is the 0-60 and top speed - speed you simply cant use on modern roads - ergo the only reason to buy a 63 is to say you have one. Let the ego go and save 30% on purchase price even more on depreciation and then a ton on running costs….the 53 begins to make sense
You can skip track by a swipe to the right on the touch pad
You should've mentioned like which KIA model it feels like :D
if they meant the Telluride, everybody pops the corks over how that car supposedly feels more expensive than its $50,000, so until you try to turn corners it's not that much of a stretch.
Do you own the garage where you use the lift
Mark, the Patreons should get that beeped clip.
Thank you for the video, super concise and on-point - love it!! Also, I would love to know your thoughts on 350 vs 450 - is the 6 cylinder worth the extra $?. Or, would you go for a 580 or a 63 considering the price difference?
“It’s not as hideous as an X5.” I actually think the X5 looks pretty good 🙂
They both look like shit, but the GLE somehow manages to look even shittier.
I agree, it is very handsome. Although I still think I prefer the looks of the GLE.
horrific grille! @@FranciscoDiaz-vf7mc
How is this car comparing with MDX Type S Adv?
Prediction before watching: they’ll talk shit about the tech
Love your honesty about these throwaway vehicles
How do I get the uncensored version?
The cancelled edition is not available.
The X5 M50i (now X5 M60i on the refresh) is similar in price, has a lot more power (523 HP, in the 3’s 0-60 and low 12’s in the quarter), and has good handling with a decent enough ride. The one I test drive was $96K, but it was loaded with massaging seats (amazing) and the big money Bowers and Wilkins sound system. I’d take that all day over this Benz
Yeah, but its a bmw...
@@danhobart4009 right, a BMW that is better than that Benz.
For almost $100k you should be able to get a X5 M. It's atrocious how expensive these premium cars got recently.
@@danhobart4009 a BMW that is better in virtually every way than this Benz.
I have an X5 M50i. Biggest difference is the torque, 0-60 is more like straight 4 seconds I'd say. I think the 40i is almost as fast as this "AMG".
I think you can click on the top middle of touch pad and swipe left/right to change tracks?
Yeah its all touch or or swipe on wheel.
No, I mean that click on top middle of the touch pad is a shortcut to bring up media control, where you swipe left or right for prev/next track.@@savagegeese
@@Archerussss How idiotic. "Modern interiors" suck.
This car at $93k is a slap in the face. Pretty soon they will price 4 pot engines at $100K+
An X3M would mop the floor with this car in every aspect.
I love the comments about how it rides like trash. These giant wheels in all cars (even some less expensive ones) is starting to become ridiculous. I'm so happy I didn't go for the bigger wheels or the run-flats in my X3, and as a consequence, it actually is comfortable!
Note about the title / description : Did you mean Audi SQ7 ? (and not SQ5?) the Q5 is in the same size category as the GLC not the GLE.
On the subject of SUVs, I know it’s not your usual fare, but I’d love to see you guys get a Ferrari Purosangue into The Shoppe to analyze its interesting new suspension tech that negates the need for anti-roll bars. No one does a technical analysis on things like that better than you guys 🤓
Is it just me or does Mark have similar looks and mannerisms to Maynard James Keenan?
Do you guys plan to do a video on the 24 LC500 revisions, namely the interior touchscreen?
The GLE line alone has 6 different models (not including the coupe). And to think that as of 2008 Mercedes had just 2 SUV's, the ML and the GLK.
An the older Mercedes would remember your drive mode
So like there was 9 different ML models in 2008? Pretty stupid comment lol
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If you're reading it backwards
I think you mean the GLE has 6 different trims / engines, which is something Mercedes has always offered. Like how you could get an ML 350, 320 CDI, 550 or 63. Also I think the GL was also in production by 2008, and the R-Class if you want to consider that an SUV.
So V8 and GLE as an option, would you think about a GLE 580? It's not an AMG but it would have a V8 and still outperform the 53 in power/speed but be more "refined" like the 350/450 GLEs.
Thoughts?
The HDR videos are really good
Love the honesty !
2:55 to fix your gripe, Jack, as a sort of "secondary" owner to my grandpa's 2022 gle350, you can make a shortcut to skip tracks, at least on Carplay. on the left gauge screen, press the home button and go to Media. there, you should see the song playing; you can swipe up/down to skip tracks.
other than that i pretty much agree with his pros and cons about the car. i can't talk about the powertrain much since i've only got the 350 but still it's a decent car to drive as far as new mercedes products go. it's easier to drive/use than the EQS450 my uncle let me drive around LA once, at least.
For the same money I can get a X5 M60i with a monster V8.
And similar MPGs
You can, but I will say it does not drive nearly as well. It rolls a lot more and feels heavier
@@heinman6250 The M60 rolls more? You`re joking, right?
@@michaelv6870 no, I’ve driven both. me and the owner of the M60i both feel it
What about the gle450 is it smooth ?
Its the same car
No B58 Jack AI?
I put an order for amg 53 w 3 rows , 84k waited 11 months during 21’-22’ summer, pretty sure dealer skip me over since I locked msrp, and they probably under sold me, no matter, they returned my deposit and I got a 23’ ford timberline expedition w way more space n capability 440 hp 510 lb towing my boat w ease , yes I paid a little more for the ford and loving it
Out of all of the "half-baked" AMG 53/43 offerings from Mercedes, what is the @savagegeese model of choice? I personally like the idea of a CPO E53/E43 sedan once they've gotten demolished by depreciation.
The face lifted C43 is a ton of fun
Why didn't you review (mention at least) GLE 580 which comes with V8?
$3 extra g's you can get a nicely equipped GLE580 with a superb ride and the glorious V8 engine!
A Hyrbrid making 18 mpg - _Ooh-wee!_
Any time I see a Coupe SUV, I look to see who was stupid enough to buy a car that sucks as an SUV and sucks as a sedan - the worst of both worlds. And yea, they always look ... special.
Love this channel for its unfiltered reviews.
You don't quite need the 63 (although that's a good thing), there is also the GLE 580.
What sunglasses are you guys using ?
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