Thank you very much, i searched everywhere and couldnt find the problem. But thanks to you i know it now, i have to replace the clutchbasket. Thanks 🙏🏽 bud!!
I am working on my girlfriend's '01 YZ125. Clutch doesn't engage until lever is almost all the way out, and if you try to start the bike in gear with clutch pulled, the bike will lurch forward as the crank spins over with the kick-start. I also feel the bike is lacking power, but I've dialed in jetting and oil ratio. The bike sounds really good and crisp. It just feels like something is holding it back as the bike is slower than my 125 but has more done to it haha. Thanks for reading.
That's awesome you're helping out your girlfriend! Have you tried adjusting the clutch cable? It sounds like the clutch plates might just be worn out, which is pretty common on a 125 motocross bike. They're fairly cheap and easy to replace.
@MotocrossHideout your amazing for trying to help that rider hey just got a 125 4stroke apollo thing and with the clutch pulled in on first gear it's hard to roll the back tire but when I put it in neutral it rolls fine mind u it's new haven't started it yet
Just wanted to say thanks for all your videos! Can't even count how many times I've used your vids to help with my bikes! Great way of explaining things! Keep up the great work man!
Not really related to the clutch I dont think but when ever I turn or accelerate it feel like I have no traction like it’ll slip on slow turns in dry grass and driving straight feels like I’m on a tightrope it all started when I was riding in a field 6th gear pinned I go to slow down and turn till the wheel slipped out. I made sure apl bolts were tight and swingarm doesn’t have play it feels nice and tight. It also starts and runs good Yz85 2005 any help is appreciated
operating the clutch while shifting is flawless, but at first gear when i start rolling and let the clutch out slowly it feels notchy, but only when i start rolling, and it happens rarely. as i remember from recent teardown the baskets are just fine, and i dont know whats causing the problem
Dude ! I have a 1968 Yamaha ysc1 , 180 !!! I release slowly on the clutch and it starts to move . But the it does a notchy issue . I filed them . Not all the way down . But relatively flat . Still does it. Also added new fiber plates . Still same issue !!
Notchy is usually the basket, as you mentioned. I would replace the basket, otherwise filing them all the way down might fix it. It will wear out sooner than later though.
Got a 2023 klx 140 recently, not many hours- while I was riding for an hour, near the end the engine sounded different and the throttle felt like it was losing power while I revved it. It dies while I downshifted and kept dying while I tried to start it and go into gear. I even tried giving it some throttle while holding in the clutch until it engaged- it just kept dying. I dont know if it's the gas, I still see fuel in the bottom of the tank, not much but theres some. I put my hand near the engine and it did not radiate super hot. I dont know if it was because I was mainly running in 2nd even for some hills. Y'all know what it might be?
Ended up taking it apart. Found out my springs are done. So the rattling was coming from some of the bolts (with the springs) that went loose and was hitting my case and making grooves. I caught it before it was too late though. Washed out my bikes oil to be safe from shavings.
Just rebuilt a cr80r I cleaned the carb set it back to normal for the most part, also put a new top end on and now it starts first kick, but when I put it in gear it doesn’t go????
@@CalumMac-ox4ek clutch plates where fried like I suspected, So bought sum new clutch plates and bolts (whole kit basically) and was fine after that clicked into gear
Yes. But when you let it out completely it should stall. This is because you're putting it into gear. But yes it's normal on every bike to have that. It's the "catching point", we call it.
I just bought a ssr 125 foot shifter goes through all 4 gears but it’s not engaging into gear . It will free wheel no matter what gear it should be in .
Hey Wade, sorry about your new bike issue. Did it do this before you bought it? So are you saying that you shift it into gear but when you let out the clutch and give it gas, it won't move?
@@MotocrossHideout I bought it as a project . The motor starts and runs fine . But when trying to select gear it’s not engaging . The bike will still move as if it’s still in neautral .
Okay, it's hard to know for sure over text, but it sounds like there's something in the transmission that's either bent, worn out, or not installed properly. Was just doing a quick search and found this: www.planetminis.com/threads/ssr-125-semi-auto-transmission-issue.238250/
I got a 98 yz125. When my bike is off and in gear I grab the clutch to see if I can move it while in gear. It just wont move. Its a new clutch and cable which adjusted so many ways
Problem with mine is that it feels naughty but it is a hydraulic KTM clutch. Basket has only 50 hours on it and does not have any notches at all. It feels almost as if the lever pin is dry and catching but I just greased it so the Nazi feel must be coming from the slave cylinder. Any ideas? I did recently reinstall this OEM slave cylinder after it was uninstalled from the bike for 6 years. 2017 KTM 250 xcw.
i have tc 85 2020 in very good condition engine in nice after work like 10mth everything good but i have one problem when the bike is cold clutch works good but after faster ride clutch starts to dragging like i put in in 1st or 2nd and stay there waiting it runs like for 20-30seconds and rpms goes down and engine turns off.. sometimes its running fine sometimes it dies plates is fine clutch basket is fine too when its hot and i put it in 1st and give some few seconds a little bit of gas it dont stall and i can move or stay without "stalling" it dont die when im riding when im shifting when im going from hill with clutch pulled in and no gas it dont stall too only when stop and in gear do someone know what can do that? clutch pump? i have hydraulic clutch maybe islander? i have good motul oil in gearbox but i will change it to what husqvarna recommend motorex help :D
Every time I start my bike and put it into 1st gear it stalls and have to push it to get it going, but after that I can downshift to 1st just fine, any thoughts?
@@MotocrossHideout not having so many issues with it this season been giving the bike a lot of time to warm up and after changin last years oil she’s running like a dream I like to just kick it into first while it’s on the stand so the rear wheel has no resistance and the clutch frees up easy then it’s all warmed up for when I wanna be on my way.
nice content, need your advice, my CRF250L when i engage 1st gear without releasing it, the motor moves a little, whats the problem with it, where should i adjust?
Thanks! Sounds like the clutch perch might need to be adjusted so that you can fully disengage the clutch. Otherwise your clutch plates could be warped, causing clutch drag. I cover that more in my article here: motocrosshideout.com/dirt-bike-clutch-dragging/ Looks like you were having fun practicing some log hopping last week ;)
@@MotocrossHideout Thank you for your reply and visiting my YT. As you can see, my log hopping practice and wheelie lead to my clutch problems. So I keep on adjusting it. The article was very useful to me thanks for sharing it.
Make sure the wheels are straight and the chain is properly adjusted on both sides first. If the clutch is properly adjusted at the cable, I would probably take the cover off and see if anything is loose/missing.
is it normal that while the bike is off (also so can hear it better) and it is in gear with the clutch pulled in that it makes a click sound at first when rolling the bike forward or backward? Also seems like there is still some resistance when spinning the rear wheel with it off of the ground, with the clutch pulled in while in gear?
just picked up a bike yesterday (Xpro storm 150 2022) and got it running changed oil and sparkplug , but when i have the clutch in and try to go into first gear and release then go for the throttle the bike just instantly dies smh
Have you tried adjusting the clutch cable? Check this video out: th-cam.com/video/xGXXff7-2VY/w-d-xo.html Otherwise, the clutch plates might be getting warped, which is common after a lot of hours.
On my 2000 kx250 the clutch engages at the very end of the level pull so when it's 100%out and it engages very hard. Grabs and causes me to stall the bike. It feels like the bike doesn't have enough power so maybe it's not completely disengaging? Any ideas where I should start?
Plates n basket bro, I got a 00 kx125 and my basket had notches in it n plates worn change thoughts you should be good. Also I put some lube down my cable cause you literally needed 3-4 fingers to pull it😭🤣🤦🏾♂️, now I can do it with 1!
@@MotocrossHideoutmine does the same thing but its an 04 nd it will just stall, when you actually get it to ride it the throttle is pretty jumpy and the bike sometimes will shut off when pulling in the clutch and slowing down it will just get rlly quiet nd die
My bike just started making a loud sound when I kick start it. When I let the clutch out. It begins to whine. Whenever my clutch is engaged. The noise stops.
If it wasn't making it before, I would look into it. It could be something loose/worn in the clutch or could be a bearing going out in the engine. Hard to say over text. Let us know what you find.
I have a problem that's different to all of these. My bike starts and runs fine but when I pull the clutch in, put it into gear, release the clutch I hear this clicking sound and no drive.
Yeah its going, I need to spend a weekend on it tho and take apart the selector because it's real stiff, just give it a clean and some new grease and see if that fixes how hard it is to select forward and reverse. Thanks for your replys. :)
Do you think a problem with my idle not being able to go lower might be because of a clutch problem? Also while I was in fifth gear it suddenly disengaged and went to neutral
If your idle is too high in neutral, then the clutch doesn't have anything to do with it. If you were accelerating in 5th gear, it could've slipped, making it feel like neutral. Hard to know over text.
Most likely carb related if you have one. what kind of bike? Air leaks can also cause a high idle. If you have a throttle body like on the ktm's with the yellow knob at the bottom then try backing that knob out (counterclockwise) as far as you can til it stops.
What if the motorcycle is new and it works great, then it goes in for the first service at 600 miles, and the clutch hose in first gear only as you let it out ?
Hello, I have a KX 85, it starts and runs, however when I put it in gear and release the clutch it stalls. Already replaced the clutch plates but still stays the same, also tried adjusting the clutch but doesn't work either. When I try it on the bike stand it does work.
When i press the clutch on gears for exemple on a red light, i feel there’s a bit of power going on the rear tire even tho it’s clutch in.. what can be the problem?
I have same issue. I changed disk clutches and it worked but after few days it started doing the same thing. Then i noticed the clutch cable was in very bad condition so i changed the cable and it was good again. Now i have new clutch cable and new clutch disks but it still does the same thing.
hi , i have a problem , when i put in first gear it just stalls also when im stopping i have to give it throtle because if i not i just stalls even when the clutch is fully pulled
I put a new 125cc engine in a dirt bike and it ran great for a couple of days and now it feels like it is slipping when I give it more than half throttle.
@@MotocrossHideout ,thanks for the reply. I have the cable adjusted to the best of my knowledge, and even tried it a little tighter and a little more loose than what seems right. I guess I need to open it up and take a look at the clutch plates
@@MotocrossHideout honestly, it's kinda odd how it acts. At first, it seems like the clutch isn't fully engaging. It's hard to find neutral while it it running. It also acts like it wants to jump forward just slightly when you put it in gear, which seems opposite of how it's doing on the top end.🤷🏻♂️ It takes off good, with good throttle response, but once you give it some juice, the rmp's jump and it barely pulls.
@@Curtis86 Hmm, yeah it sounds like it's dragging at idle (which is fairly common and could be an easy fix), but also slipping at high RPM under heavy load. I 2nd checking the plates. Make sure they metal discs are flat and not discolored, and that the fiber plates are within thickness spec. Also, check that there are proper numbers for each plate and in the correct order.
when i put my bike into gear and have the clutch pulled all the way in it stalls, i have tightened the clutch perch fully and loosened it fully, any tips?
Do you have the proper amount of freeplay that I cover in this video? th-cam.com/video/xGXXff7-2VY/w-d-xo.html If so, does it get better when the engine is fully warmed up? It could just be dirty oil that's causing the clutch plates to stick together, especially when the engine is cold.
my bike on 4th and 5th gear is slower than it used to be, the power on the other gears its the same as it was but it just goes 15 km slower than it used to. Help
While I'm riding the clutch works great then all of a sudden becomes very loose and doesn't even work till I turn off the bike and then it works again the fluid is completely full but still makes a squeaky noise what could it be
my problem is the bike slips out of neutral into 1st ALL the time, if the bike sits there and i go to try and move it, its in gear without even touching the shifter. even just pushing the bike without it on it will slip into neutral, i can barely get the bike to start without it slipping into 1st and then when it does even while holding the clutch in the bike starts to go like im barely coming the clutch in. i can also can BARELY find neutral to the point i have to use my hand to find it, its a kx85. not sure what the problem is, has fresh gear oil too.
Interesting. Sounds like the shift fork could possibly be bent inside the transmission. Have you tried searching Thumpertalk forum for this specific issue?
@@MotocrossHideout yeah one of the forums said the issue was the detent spring. i haven't taken it apart yet to look sense i'm waiting for the parts to come in so hopefully that's the case and i won't have to split the cases
Does anyone know why when I do a clutch up wheelie it’s like the clutch slips or the engine rpm drops quick enough to not give me enough power to pop it up? I’ve tried dumping the clutch at different speeds but it doesn’t seem to work. I can wheelie other bikes like surrons and pedal bikes well but I can’t pop up this crf250l. Any tips?
I see you respond to a lot of your comments and was wondering if you could help me, i have a yz85 and just ordered a new clutch kit, in first gear it almost feels notchy at the powerband, and when I stall it in the trails on a hill it will move back a foot then stop(while in gear and off clutch not pulled in) then move again and stop. Feels good riding normally but since my last ride first gear almost felt like it had a neutral 55-65% throttle. It cut out on moving the bike not the throttle. If that makes sense. Have engine oil coming I haven’t changed it in a while but I’m doing that when I put the new clutch in. Should I replace the basket as well? Would that be the cause of it moving in gear and off? Thank you any help is appreciated.
Hard to know for sure over text. Sounds like it's slipping under heavy acceleration, making it feel like a false neutral, right? Might just be worn/old clutch plates. If the basket isn't notched/has grooves then I wouldn't replace it.
Hey Michael, it's hard to know for sure unless you take it apart and inspect for wear/damage/loose parts in the clutch. My WR450F is noticeably louder in neutral and quiets down when I pull in the clutch. If it recently started doing that, I'd look into it before it causes a major failure.
Quick question. Hope you or anyone can answear this? Got a crf 450r 2016. My clutch lever got tiny slack but when i hit the gas slightly, the slack on the clutch lever increase quite alot, almost all the way. Never experienced this before, tried to google it but i found nothing. Have a good day yall! 😊
Problem im having with 2012 crf250r is when i shift in to gear i no longer need to hold my clutch the bike just runs and drives with out me pulling clutch any reason it would do that but other than that weird thing no issues rides fine
So are you saying that pulling in the clutch lever doesn't do anything - it doesn't disengage the clutch? If that's the case, then the clutch cable either needs major adjustment, or something isn't right internally.
I’m working on my buddys 2000 warrior 350 bored 40 over hot cam and new clutch but there no clutch I’ve adjusted it out and still bucks and stalls when put into gear I’m bout to get into the clutch and look at it but I was wondering if anyone can help me out
My 1990 yz125 only kicks over in neutral and it stalls out if I’m in 1st or 2nd with the clutch pulled all the way in. Any idea of what may cause that? Only been in the dirt bike world for a year now so I have no idea..
KTM's often do that. It could also be old/sticky oil. Try fresh oil or a different oil that's made for wet clutches. It could also be worn/warped clutch plates from getting too hot too many times.
Hi, I have a little problem with my crf230f when I upshift at low rpms it works perfect but if I try to upshift at high rpms it wont shift, I can downshift at any rpms, low or high. I have the right amount of clutch freeplay at the lever and the shift pedal doesn't hit the case.
@@MotocrossHideout with the clutch, I took it for a test ride with normal footwear to feel the shifting better, the shifting problem is really random some times I can shift through all the gears without a problem, I bought it used a little over a week ago, I ended up ordering the gearshift star and the gearshift plate. I hope thats the issue.
@@MotocrossHideout I changed the gearshift star and the gearshift plate and now the bike shifts like a dream. Now I think I need to re jet, I took out the spark plug and it was a little too white, the bike came with a aftermarket exhaust and without the airbox snorkel, If i put back the stock exhaust can that help with the lean condition or without the snorkel the only option is re jetting?
Hey I have a 2013 Honda crf 250r. When I’m riding, I get high rpms really fast and my top speed is very slow. A 150 can keep up with me. Any ideas or advice as to why?
Perhaps the clutch is slipping. Check out this video on adjusting it: th-cam.com/video/xGXXff7-2VY/w-d-xo.html If that doesn't fix it, then it might just need new clutch plates if they're slipping (sounds/feels like you're hitting neutral when accelerating in gear).
Hi my friend my problem is that my dirt bike rides fine but there a little problem with shifting but when I’m driving it and I pull the clutch in it just turns off any solution brother
So the engine dies when you pull in the clutch? If there's a safety switch on the clutch lever going down to the engine, I'd check that connection first.
My ktm 350 when I put it into gear it shuts right off but when it warms up after 5 minutes is doesn’t do it no more I thought maybe the oil or cable but I’m not sure
Hey James, sounds like the clutch plates might be sticking. This is somewhat common on KTM's because they have tighter tolerances on clutch plates. You could try changing the oil more often or use a motorcycle-specific oil that's made for "wet clutches" and is more slippery of an oil.
My bike wont roll in nuetral, even when i pull in the clutch. I was going 60+ when the engine immediately stoped and the back wheel locked, took forever to get it started again and it did it again when i shifted into 2nd. It wouldnt shift at all for a min, but after sitting for a lil i got it into 1st, any ideas?
Hate to say it, but it sounds like the engine might have temporarily seized and then cooled down and unlocked enough to move and start again. Hard to know for sure, but that's what it sounds like to me.
Hi, my problem is stiff and not so easy pulling the clutch, i just change the fluid 5.1 and take off all air bubbles but still its stiff littlebit i wont to be softer (ktm exc-f 450 19) thank you
That bike is naturally going to have a stiffer pull because the clutch springs are stiffer so that it doesn't slip. I recommend checking out the Midwest Mountain Engineering lever to make it easier to pull: midwestme.com/
when bike is on stand is it normal for the wheel to spin kinda fast? its a 23 fc250 hydraulic clutch, has 30 hours on it and my 21 yz125 has over 125 hours or more and the clutch is all oringinal and gets abused yet is in perfect condition. was wondering because i think its kind of odd
I just finished rebuilding my 2010 crf250r and I was test riding it the other couple days and my clutch was slipping out of neutral and when I put it into neutral after an hour long ride it made an awful calling noise or like a grind, does this mean I have to replace my clutch and gear or is this a replace the fibres issue?
Hello need some help ! Every time I pull my clutch in put it in gear and I go to release the clutch the bike does nothing it’s acting as if it’s in nuetral what could that be ? 2001 gsxr 600
There's either something wrong with the clutch or perhaps the transmission shift fork got bent. Did the bike fall over on the left side before this started happening?
This so called clutch creep that he mentioned as the first problem is what bothers me right now and I don't know how to fix that and another thing is I can't transport my bike to a workshop so I'm kind of stuck
Hey Zvonimir, did you already try the things I mentioned in this vid? I highly recommend buying an OEM service manual for your bike if you plan on working on it yourself - they're super helpful with step-by-step tutorials and specs for tuning and maintaining your bike.
I have a question, I hear a weird spinning sound, almost rattle when I put my head to the bottom of the left side of my bike. Is this clutch or trans related? No symptoms other than that.
Hello yeah so when i start my bike when its cold i put it in gear with clutch in it stalls however if i warm it up and if i start it up when its warmed up i can put it in 1 geat just fine another thing even if its warm and i stall it on any gear and when i start it up with the clutch pulled in it just starts going even if the clutch is pulled in
Sounds like the clutch is sticking and grabbing when it cools down. Using a different oil that's more slippery could help, or just changing it more often.
@@MotocrossHideout hello i changed the oil but i still have the same problem however i am working on a Aprilia RS 125 2stroke thats Ben sitting for 6 years not being started could it be that the clutch plates are stuck together from the old oil?
That's definitely possible. I had a similar problem with my GasGas trials bike. Using a super slippery and lightweight oil with fresh clutch plates made the most difference. Even after a few hours they would start sticking again. It was a hydraulic clutch, so that could also be a part of it if it's not functioning 100%.
Hi my young lad was at the track the day he hit a jump in 2nd it sounded like the bike went into nutril parked it up the gear lever wuden move finly got it going again wude go into first but not 2nd any idears what coud be the problem thanks
I have a crf250x and i was riding the other day and all of a sudden i have 6 neutrals after a bit it fixes itself and back to normal and it does that a couple more times. The clutch also drags alot when pulled in starting to move the bike. Are these worn out clutch in need of replacing symptoms?
I would pop the clutch cover off and inspect. There's definitely something wrong. Hopefully it's a minor clutch problem and not a major transmission issue. On a side note, did the bike recently fall over on its left side?
So whenever I put my bike into 1st or any gear I have the clutch in and it stalls but it never did that before but then I give it more gas and it doesn’t stall but it’s almost like the clutch isn’t there because it just wants to move I and I don’t want the bike to move like that because I need to break and stop so how do I get that to stop happening and to where the clutch can be free and work good? Please respond I need help
Watch this first: th-cam.com/video/3NdX9bWZgFk/w-d-xo.html Otherwise it could be old/sticky oil. Changing the oil or using a motorcycle specific oil for wet clutches can help. Or it could be warped clutch plates from getting too hot.
Hey i have a problem with my sx250,when in neutral i pull the clutch the bike turns off,and when i ride and pull clutch and give throttle the bike still goes it doesnt stop completly ,can you help me to solve this problem,thanks.
Sounds like the clutch isn't fully disengaging. I think that has a hydraulic clutch, right? Have you tried bleeding the clutch? If the lever is working properly, then I would properly take the clutch cover off to inspect the plates and basket for wear or damage.
Need help before I go purchase a new clutch. My sons Crf 250r, when releasing the clutch the friction point seems far away from full open position if that makes sense. Plus the other day I started it in first and it wanted to creep for a split second even with the clutch fully engaged. Also. I had it in gear with the bike off and pulled the clutch in to roll it and the back tyre was just sliding. 😢. Do I need a new clutch plate or could this be fixed by some adjusting ??? Please help cheers
The last part sounds normal. Have you already tried adjusting the cable so that there's a proper amount of slack? If so, I would just pop the clutch cover off and inspect the clutch. It doesn't take long. The clutch is a maintenance item anyway, so it's pretty common to replace the plates on a race bike.
Hi whenever i pull my clutch in and try move it whilst it’s in gear it does not move at all and just is really hard to move i’ve replaced my clutch line and it’s still the same do you know what’s wrong ?
With the engine on or off? There's always going to be at least 'some' clutch drag if it's in gear, even with the clutch pulled in. I hope that's what you're asking about.
@@MotocrossHideoutthat's what I'm asking too I guess I'll just start it and try it even tho I pop started bikes before and it never had drag like this lol it's always the screw with the lock nut I can adjust too right
I have a 2002 crf450r and if i put it in gear when the bike is off and pull the clutch in it does move still as if the clutch is not pulled in when bike is running i have no issues any idea ?
Maybe I'm just a little groggy on Monday (lol), but I'm having a hard time understanding your comment... So are you saying that pulling the clutch in with the engine running doesn't do anything?
It's common for there to be a little bit of clutch drag if it's in gear with the engine off and the clutch pulled in. If the clutch works well when the engine is running then I don't think I'd worry about it.
Mine did that and I had to hold it with the brake… a new clutch basket solved the issue for me.. mine was notched/grooved but even though the clutch discs seemed to slide fine on the basket fingers when I slid the plates by hand.. the problem never stopped till I got the new clutch basket
When I rev my bike to do a hole shot and dump the clutch I hear this metal shinking noise idk how to explain it but it shifts fine and it doesn’t slip. My front sprocket it a little worn down but what do you think it is?
Hard to say over text. What does "a little worn" look like? Is the chain properly tensioned? Have you pulled the clutch cover off to see if everything is still tight/intact?
@@MotocrossHideout the front sprocket was definitely flipped around to get some more life out of it from the previous owner so it looks shaved off on both sides and the chain was properly tensioned before that noise happened but I have not pulled the cover off yet
I just replaced the clutch on my bike and now it's making knocking sounds, the sound happens wether or not the clutch is engaged and seems to lessen when the bike is revved a little. I've checked the timing and the valves and the clutch basket. The basket doesn't have a lot of play though I did notice some play. The only thing I really noticed is that one of the oil pump gears had a little bit of play. The bike seems to get hot really fast and I even saw a little bit of smoke after the bike was on for a few seconds. Could it be an oil pump problem somehow?
Hard to say over text. If it were me and there were no weird sounds before replacing the clutch, I would take the clutch apart and make sure everything is properly installed in the right order with no missing parts and that it's all torqued to OEM specs.
@@MotocrossHideout that's what I did but I guess I'll go through it again, I might end up splitting the cases at this point and just making sure everything is good, I hope I don't have to do that though
It's hard for me to help diagnose without seeing and hearing it, so I'm just going off of what it sounds like you're saying. When you say that the sound started only after replacing the clutch, that makes me think that something from the clutch is causing it, but I could be wrong. Does that make sense?
Hello I have a 2008 ktm 200 xcw Hydraulic clutch I’ve gone through the master and slave cylinders. Bled the system inspected the plates and basket and it will still not disengage any ideas ? Thank you
Hey Robert, I can imagine your frustration... So you rebuilt the master and slave cylinders with new parts? When did it start doing this? Also, how much pressure does the lever have when you pull it in?
@@MotocrossHideout , yes rebuilt with new parts new gaskets etc , I finally got the clutch bled and I have just a bit of free play on lever if I am looking at the clutch plates they move a little The lever has a good firm feel I can feel the difference when the air gets out since I’ve bled it several times so I’m just wondering what I should test into next I took the push rod out seems fine so I’m stumped
The lever is firm but not hard to pull I’m assuming it is bled there are no bubbles coming out the bleeder. However if I look into the master and pump the clutch there are tiny tiny bubbles coming up I don’t know if that is a leak or what also on the slave I tried the thin gasket and the medium gasket seemed the same Thanks for reading
@@MotocrossHideout its 2005 crf230f and its been doing it since i got it i have seen a few videos of other 230 that have the same issue but mine seems to be a bit louder.
If it's coming from the clutch and it isn't getting louder then it's probably not a major issue, but if you want it to be reliable, I would remove and inspect all the clutch parts. This guy sounds like the same problem and it turned out to be the clutch basket: www.thumpertalk.com/forums/topic/1187333-help-engine-whine/
hello my friend, i have a Beta 400rr 2010 and i have a problem :( when i start the bike (cold start or not), pull the clutch and get the 1 gear, start moving even with the clutch pull! Someone can tell me the problem? about the other gear no problem, everething works
Okay, gotcha - congrats on your new bike! It's hard to say over text, but it could be a worn clutch basket. First, have you tried adjusting the clutch cable?
When I put my bike into 1st gear sometimes it will just stall out but not every time but as long as I keep a little throttle on it it won’t. And when I pull the clutch in to roll down a hill it most of the time sounds like the clutch isn’t fully engaged. Also I will come to a stop with clutch pulled in on flat ground and it will inch forward anyway but it doesn’t happen all the time. Is my clutch worn or do i need to mess with the cable
I'd definitely start by adjusting the cable since that's easy to do. Loosen the locknut and turn the small knob out until there's just a tiny by of play/wiggle in the lever before it gets tight, then tighten the locknut again. Let me know how it goes!
1:32 Here it dose sound like my issue but the clutch was recently replaced could that be caused from a wrong install? Also after 10-20 minutes of riding the issue go's away
Did you replace the metal discs as well as the fibers? Clutch plates expand as they get hotter, which can make them feel more "grabby", especially on a KTM since they tend to have less of a gap between the plates. Make sure you're using oil that's made for a "wet clutch" as well.
@@MotocrossHideout it came with the metal discs but if i remember right i think it had more fibers and metal discs than the oem i took off it also had heavier springs i think
Did you measure them and check the flatness? Heavier springs are going to put more pressure on the plates so they won't slip as easily and can take more abuse.
i have a problem where the clutch is dragging and doesnt want to change gears. the bike also idles lower than usual in any gear (including neutral), the revs drop down way faster than they should when clutch is pulled in (again in any gear), and the bike trys to move/drive itself forward when the clutch is pulled (again in any gear). I have got new friction plates coming in the post and hoping that will fix the issue. the engine oil was replaced 4 days ago and i put a little too much in, i hope this aint the reason why the clutch has gone but will have to see. if anyone has had this issue and fixed it, please let me know
Dirt bike stalls when you put it into gear even with the clutch pulled in? Watch this first: th-cam.com/video/xGXXff7-2VY/w-d-xo.html
Thank you very much, i searched everywhere and couldnt find the problem. But thanks to you i know it now, i have to replace the clutchbasket. Thanks 🙏🏽 bud!!
You're welcome Felix, glad I could help.
What was your bike doing?
Notchy. I couldnt figure out how to describe it. thank you! Looks like i need a clutch basket
I am working on my girlfriend's '01 YZ125. Clutch doesn't engage until lever is almost all the way out, and if you try to start the bike in gear with clutch pulled, the bike will lurch forward as the crank spins over with the kick-start. I also feel the bike is lacking power, but I've dialed in jetting and oil ratio. The bike sounds really good and crisp. It just feels like something is holding it back as the bike is slower than my 125 but has more done to it haha. Thanks for reading.
That's awesome you're helping out your girlfriend! Have you tried adjusting the clutch cable? It sounds like the clutch plates might just be worn out, which is pretty common on a 125 motocross bike. They're fairly cheap and easy to replace.
@MotocrossHideout your amazing for trying to help that rider hey just got a 125 4stroke apollo thing and with the clutch pulled in on first gear it's hard to roll the back tire but when I put it in neutral it rolls fine mind u it's new haven't started it yet
@@UncleChUck33mine is doing the same thing
Just wanted to say thanks for all your videos! Can't even count how many times I've used your vids to help with my bikes! Great way of explaining things! Keep up the great work man!
Thanks for your support and encouragement, Marshall! Glad you find them helpful :)
-Kelley
Not really related to the clutch I dont think but when ever I turn or accelerate it feel like I have no traction like it’ll slip on slow turns in dry grass and driving straight feels like I’m on a tightrope it all started when I was riding in a field 6th gear pinned I go to slow down and turn till the wheel slipped out.
I made sure apl bolts were tight and swingarm doesn’t have play it feels nice and tight. It also starts and runs good
Yz85 2005 any help is appreciated
Flat tire?
operating the clutch while shifting is flawless, but at first gear when i start rolling and let the clutch out slowly it feels notchy, but only when i start rolling, and it happens rarely. as i remember from recent teardown the baskets are just fine, and i dont know whats causing the problem
Dude ! I have a 1968 Yamaha ysc1 , 180 !!!
I release slowly on the clutch and it starts to move . But the it does a notchy issue . I filed them . Not all the way down . But relatively flat . Still does it. Also added new fiber plates . Still same issue !!
Notchy is usually the basket, as you mentioned. I would replace the basket, otherwise filing them all the way down might fix it. It will wear out sooner than later though.
@@MotocrossHideout thanks , I’ll give it a try !
Got a 2023 klx 140 recently, not many hours- while I was riding for an hour, near the end the engine sounded different and the throttle felt like it was losing power while I revved it. It dies while I downshifted and kept dying while I tried to start it and go into gear. I even tried giving it some throttle while holding in the clutch until it engaged- it just kept dying. I dont know if it's the gas, I still see fuel in the bottom of the tank, not much but theres some. I put my hand near the engine and it did not radiate super hot. I dont know if it was because I was mainly running in 2nd even for some hills. Y'all know what it might be?
If I found a lot of aluminum chips when changing the engine oil, is it related to the clutch?
When i release the clutch it sometimes doesn't drive even tho i have it in gear
def my top in power has vanished time to replace it
My bikes clutch is rattling. Is there something like dirt in my clutch or something??
When does it rattle and where is the noise coming from?
Ended up taking it apart. Found out my springs are done. So the rattling was coming from some of the bolts (with the springs) that went loose and was hitting my case and making grooves. I caught it before it was too late though. Washed out my bikes oil to be safe from shavings.
Thank You Very Much For Sharing 👍
Just rebuilt a cr80r I cleaned the carb set it back to normal for the most part, also put a new top end on and now it starts first kick, but when I put it in gear it doesn’t go????
Sorry to hear that. What does it do when you put it in gear? Did the clutch cable break?
What was the problem
Have the same thing with sx
@@CalumMac-ox4ek clutch plates where fried like I suspected, So bought sum new clutch plates and bolts (whole kit basically) and was fine after that clicked into gear
Thanks for the update - glad you got it figured out!
My bike all of the sudden started to move forward when I realease the clutch even tho I’m not giving it any throttle is this normal?
Yes. But when you let it out completely it should stall. This is because you're putting it into gear. But yes it's normal on every bike to have that. It's the "catching point", we call it.
Great answer, James!
I just bought a ssr 125 foot shifter goes through all 4 gears but it’s not engaging into gear . It will free wheel no matter what gear it should be in .
Hey Wade, sorry about your new bike issue. Did it do this before you bought it? So are you saying that you shift it into gear but when you let out the clutch and give it gas, it won't move?
@@MotocrossHideout I bought it as a project . The motor starts and runs fine . But when trying to select gear it’s not engaging . The bike will still move as if it’s still in neautral .
Okay, it's hard to know for sure over text, but it sounds like there's something in the transmission that's either bent, worn out, or not installed properly. Was just doing a quick search and found this: www.planetminis.com/threads/ssr-125-semi-auto-transmission-issue.238250/
I got a 98 yz125. When my bike is off and in gear I grab the clutch to see if I can move it while in gear. It just wont move. Its a new clutch and cable which adjusted so many ways
hey man just wondering if it works while running because i have a 2011 yz450f that has the same problem
@@jackobrown954 yea it works. Also I found out once it's warmed up. I can move it in gear when it's off.
Problem with mine is that it feels naughty but it is a hydraulic KTM clutch. Basket has only 50 hours on it and does not have any notches at all. It feels almost as if the lever pin is dry and catching but I just greased it so the Nazi feel must be coming from the slave cylinder. Any ideas?
I did recently reinstall this OEM slave cylinder after it was uninstalled from the bike for 6 years.
2017 KTM 250 xcw.
i have tc 85 2020 in very good condition engine in nice after work like 10mth everything good but i have one problem when the bike is cold clutch works good but after faster ride clutch starts to dragging like i put in in 1st or 2nd and stay there waiting it runs like for 20-30seconds and rpms goes down and engine turns off..
sometimes its running fine sometimes it dies plates is fine clutch basket is fine too
when its hot and i put it in 1st and give some few seconds a little bit of gas it dont stall and i can move or stay without "stalling"
it dont die when im riding when im shifting when im going from hill with clutch pulled in and no gas it dont stall too
only when stop and in gear
do someone know what can do that? clutch pump? i have hydraulic clutch maybe islander?
i have good motul oil in gearbox but i will change it to what husqvarna recommend motorex
help :D
Every time I start my bike and put it into 1st gear it stalls and have to push it to get it going, but after that I can downshift to 1st just fine, any thoughts?
You should watch this video and let me know what you think: th-cam.com/video/yR5oqGjbpgI/w-d-xo.html
Me too man me too
Could be sticking clutch plates. Have you tried changing the oil?
Before you start riding drag in out your clutch multiple times
@@MotocrossHideout not having so many issues with it this season been giving the bike a lot of time to warm up and after changin last years oil she’s running like a dream I like to just kick it into first while it’s on the stand so the rear wheel has no resistance and the clutch frees up easy then it’s all warmed up for when I wanna be on my way.
Bro my clutch have become littje hard to pull and it is not smooth the clutch plz reply
nice content, need your advice, my CRF250L when i engage 1st gear without releasing it, the motor moves a little, whats the problem with it, where should i adjust?
Thanks! Sounds like the clutch perch might need to be adjusted so that you can fully disengage the clutch. Otherwise your clutch plates could be warped, causing clutch drag. I cover that more in my article here: motocrosshideout.com/dirt-bike-clutch-dragging/
Looks like you were having fun practicing some log hopping last week ;)
@@MotocrossHideout Thank you for your reply and visiting my YT. As you can see, my log hopping practice and wheelie lead to my clutch problems. So I keep on adjusting it. The article was very useful to me thanks for sharing it.
What can it mean if your bike is making a horrible grinding noise when your riding it slowly ?
Make sure the wheels are straight and the chain is properly adjusted on both sides first. If the clutch is properly adjusted at the cable, I would probably take the cover off and see if anything is loose/missing.
Clutch drags when hot, where’s the link ? Ty
motocrosshideout.com/dirt-bike-clutch-dragging/
i bought a 2017 ktm sxf250 yesterday, it was all good but today my clutch started dragging after oil change, cant even put in gear, stalls right away
Sorry to hear that! Was it dragging at all before? What oil did you use?
is it normal that while the bike is off (also so can hear it better) and it is in gear with the clutch pulled in that it makes a click sound at first when rolling the bike forward or backward? Also seems like there is still some resistance when spinning the rear wheel with it off of the ground, with the clutch pulled in while in gear?
Yep, that's normal.
There's still some resistance from the clutch because it slightly drags even with the lever pulled in.
just picked up a bike yesterday (Xpro storm 150 2022) and got it running changed oil and sparkplug , but when i have the clutch in and try to go into first gear and release then go for the throttle the bike just instantly dies smh
Check out this video and let me know what you think: th-cam.com/video/APJFF5srUNA/w-d-xo.html
Ive got a yamaha dtr 125 bike ran 50+miles now all it does is fires up in neutral i can pull clutch in but soon as i select a gear it just shuts off
Have you tried adjusting the clutch cable? Check this video out: th-cam.com/video/xGXXff7-2VY/w-d-xo.html
Otherwise, the clutch plates might be getting warped, which is common after a lot of hours.
Clutch cable is good 1 finger pull but clutch plates were sticking soo orderd a new 1
On my 2000 kx250 the clutch engages at the very end of the level pull so when it's 100%out and it engages very hard. Grabs and causes me to stall the bike. It feels like the bike doesn't have enough power so maybe it's not completely disengaging? Any ideas where I should start?
See if this helps: th-cam.com/video/xGXXff7-2VY/w-d-xo.html
Otherwise the cable or clutch plates may be worn, but hard to know for sure over text ;)
Plates n basket bro, I got a 00 kx125 and my basket had notches in it n plates worn change thoughts you should be good. Also I put some lube down my cable cause you literally needed 3-4 fingers to pull it😭🤣🤦🏾♂️, now I can do it with 1!
Also I think youre supposed to bottom out the top lever and adjust it by the stator side for free play also.
I’ve got a 2014 yz450f and it’s like I have to rev it way higher than normal to slowly roll out of 1st gear, any ideas?
Hard to know over text... So what happens when you don't rev it high to get moving?
@@MotocrossHideoutmine does the same thing but its an 04 nd it will just stall, when you actually get it to ride it the throttle is pretty jumpy and the bike sometimes will shut off when pulling in the clutch and slowing down it will just get rlly quiet nd die
My bike just started making a loud sound when I kick start it. When I let the clutch out. It begins to whine. Whenever my clutch is engaged. The noise stops.
If it wasn't making it before, I would look into it. It could be something loose/worn in the clutch or could be a bearing going out in the engine. Hard to say over text. Let us know what you find.
I have a problem that's different to all of these. My bike starts and runs fine but when I pull the clutch in, put it into gear, release the clutch I hear this clicking sound and no drive.
The bike sounds healthy when in neutral.
Hey Steven, what bike is it? Did you change or do anything to it recently?
Bike is a yamaha yfm 350cc. After alot of head scratching it was the forward and reverse selector not engaging properly.
Gotcha. So did you get it fixed and working then?
Yeah its going, I need to spend a weekend on it tho and take apart the selector because it's real stiff, just give it a clean and some new grease and see if that fixes how hard it is to select forward and reverse.
Thanks for your replys. :)
Do you think a problem with my idle not being able to go lower might be because of a clutch problem? Also while I was in fifth gear it suddenly disengaged and went to neutral
If your idle is too high in neutral, then the clutch doesn't have anything to do with it. If you were accelerating in 5th gear, it could've slipped, making it feel like neutral. Hard to know over text.
Most likely carb related if you have one. what kind of bike? Air leaks can also cause a high idle. If you have a throttle body like on the ktm's with the yellow knob at the bottom then try backing that knob out (counterclockwise) as far as you can til it stops.
What if the motorcycle is new and it works great, then it goes in for the first service at 600 miles, and the clutch hose in first gear only as you let it out ?
The clutch hose?
@@MotocrossHideout : what is the clutch hose ?
Hello, I have a KX 85, it starts and runs, however when I put it in gear and release the clutch it stalls. Already replaced the clutch plates but still stays the same, also tried adjusting the clutch but doesn't work either. When I try it on the bike stand it does work.
So it stalls when you're trying to start moving in first gear? It was doing the same thing before replacing the clutch plates?
When i press the clutch on gears for exemple on a red light, i feel there’s a bit of power going on the rear tire even tho it’s clutch in.. what can be the problem?
If you have found your problem please let me know😅
@@DemiGamesNLhave u figurrd your problem out?
I have same issue. I changed disk clutches and it worked but after few days it started doing the same thing. Then i noticed the clutch cable was in very bad condition so i changed the cable and it was good again. Now i have new clutch cable and new clutch disks but it still does the same thing.
hi , i have a problem , when i put in first gear it just stalls also when im stopping i have to give it throtle because if i not i just stalls even when the clutch is fully pulled
Same problem
I put a new 125cc engine in a dirt bike and it ran great for a couple of days and now it feels like it is slipping when I give it more than half throttle.
Sounds like the clutch is slipping. Is the clutch cable properly adjusted? th-cam.com/video/xGXXff7-2VY/w-d-xo.html
@@MotocrossHideout ,thanks for the reply.
I have the cable adjusted to the best of my knowledge, and even tried it a little tighter and a little more loose than what seems right.
I guess I need to open it up and take a look at the clutch plates
@@MotocrossHideout honestly, it's kinda odd how it acts. At first, it seems like the clutch isn't fully engaging. It's hard to find neutral while it it running. It also acts like it wants to jump forward just slightly when you put it in gear, which seems opposite of how it's doing on the top end.🤷🏻♂️
It takes off good, with good throttle response, but once you give it some juice, the rmp's jump and it barely pulls.
@@Curtis86 Hmm, yeah it sounds like it's dragging at idle (which is fairly common and could be an easy fix), but also slipping at high RPM under heavy load.
I 2nd checking the plates. Make sure they metal discs are flat and not discolored, and that the fiber plates are within thickness spec.
Also, check that there are proper numbers for each plate and in the correct order.
@@MotocrossHideout will do. Thanks again.
I'm sure I'll be back for an update/more questions. Lol
2021 crf250r shifter feels stiff? Deff alot of more harder than my quad
How many hours does the bike have? Maybe it's not fully broken in yet.
when i put my bike into gear and have the clutch pulled all the way in it stalls, i have tightened the clutch perch fully and loosened it fully, any tips?
How did you sort this? Having the same problem
Do you have the proper amount of freeplay that I cover in this video? th-cam.com/video/xGXXff7-2VY/w-d-xo.html
If so, does it get better when the engine is fully warmed up?
It could just be dirty oil that's causing the clutch plates to stick together, especially when the engine is cold.
What if the bike is hydraulic clutch and not a cable an it still stalls when u put it in gear an when you push it it makes a noise
Could be sticking clutch plates from old/bad oil or warped plates.
my bike on 4th and 5th gear is slower than it used to be, the power on the other gears its the same as it was but it just goes 15 km slower than it used to. Help
What bike? Have you checked the engine compression?
While I'm riding the clutch works great then all of a sudden becomes very loose and doesn't even work till I turn off the bike and then it works again the fluid is completely full but still makes a squeaky noise what could it be
Have you tried bleeding it? Might need to rebuild the master cylinder. It's fairly cheap to get a rebuild kit.
my problem is the bike slips out of neutral into 1st ALL the time, if the bike sits there and i go to try and move it, its in gear without even touching the shifter. even just pushing the bike without it on it will slip into neutral, i can barely get the bike to start without it slipping into 1st and then when it does even while holding the clutch in the bike starts to go like im barely coming the clutch in. i can also can BARELY find neutral to the point i have to use my hand to find it, its a kx85. not sure what the problem is, has fresh gear oil too.
Interesting. Sounds like the shift fork could possibly be bent inside the transmission. Have you tried searching Thumpertalk forum for this specific issue?
@@MotocrossHideout yeah one of the forums said the issue was the detent spring. i haven't taken it apart yet to look sense i'm waiting for the parts to come in so hopefully that's the case and i won't have to split the cases
Does anyone know why when I do a clutch up wheelie it’s like the clutch slips or the engine rpm drops quick enough to not give me enough power to pop it up? I’ve tried dumping the clutch at different speeds but it doesn’t seem to work. I can wheelie other bikes like surrons and pedal bikes well but I can’t pop up this crf250l. Any tips?
My bike starts and goes through all gears but when I let go of clutch it’s asif I still have it pulled in and bike wont move
Hmm, that doesn't make sense to me... You can ride it in every gear but the bike also won't move when you let the clutch out?
I see you respond to a lot of your comments and was wondering if you could help me, i have a yz85 and just ordered a new clutch kit, in first gear it almost feels notchy at the powerband, and when I stall it in the trails on a hill it will move back a foot then stop(while in gear and off clutch not pulled in) then move again and stop. Feels good riding normally but since my last ride first gear almost felt like it had a neutral 55-65% throttle. It cut out on moving the bike not the throttle. If that makes sense. Have engine oil coming I haven’t changed it in a while but I’m doing that when I put the new clutch in. Should I replace the basket as well? Would that be the cause of it moving in gear and off? Thank you any help is appreciated.
Hard to know for sure over text. Sounds like it's slipping under heavy acceleration, making it feel like a false neutral, right? Might just be worn/old clutch plates. If the basket isn't notched/has grooves then I wouldn't replace it.
I have a noise that goes away when i hold the clutch in then it comes back when i let go of the clutch
Hey Michael, it's hard to know for sure unless you take it apart and inspect for wear/damage/loose parts in the clutch. My WR450F is noticeably louder in neutral and quiets down when I pull in the clutch. If it recently started doing that, I'd look into it before it causes a major failure.
Quick question. Hope you or anyone can answear this? Got a crf 450r 2016. My clutch lever got tiny slack but when i hit the gas slightly, the slack on the clutch lever increase quite alot, almost all the way. Never experienced this before, tried to google it but i found nothing.
Have a good day yall! 😊
Problem im having with 2012 crf250r is when i shift in to gear i no longer need to hold my clutch the bike just runs and drives with out me pulling clutch any reason it would do that but other than that weird thing no issues rides fine
So are you saying that pulling in the clutch lever doesn't do anything - it doesn't disengage the clutch? If that's the case, then the clutch cable either needs major adjustment, or something isn't right internally.
I’m working on my buddys 2000 warrior 350 bored 40 over hot cam and new clutch but there no clutch I’ve adjusted it out and still bucks and stalls when put into gear I’m bout to get into the clutch and look at it but I was wondering if anyone can help me out
My 1990 yz125 only kicks over in neutral and it stalls out if I’m in 1st or 2nd with the clutch pulled all the way in.
Any idea of what may cause that?
Only been in the dirt bike world for a year now so I have no idea..
Welcome to dirt biking! Check out this vid first: th-cam.com/video/xGXXff7-2VY/w-d-xo.html
I bought an exc 450 2018 and when its in 1st gear it sometimes just keeps driving even tho i have the clutch pulled in all the way…how can i fix this?
KTM's often do that. It could also be old/sticky oil. Try fresh oil or a different oil that's made for wet clutches. It could also be worn/warped clutch plates from getting too hot too many times.
Hi, I have a little problem with my crf230f when I upshift at low rpms it works perfect but if I try to upshift at high rpms it wont shift, I can downshift at any rpms, low or high. I have the right amount of clutch freeplay at the lever and the shift pedal doesn't hit the case.
Are you shifting with or without using the clutch?
@@MotocrossHideout with the clutch, I took it for a test ride with normal footwear to feel the shifting better, the shifting problem is really random some times I can shift through all the gears without a problem, I bought it used a little over a week ago, I ended up ordering the gearshift star and the gearshift plate. I hope thats the issue.
@@rushiiiop Okay, please let us know what you find out!
@@MotocrossHideout I changed the gearshift star and the gearshift plate and now the bike shifts like a dream.
Now I think I need to re jet, I took out the spark plug and it was a little too white, the bike came with a aftermarket exhaust and without the airbox snorkel, If i put back the stock exhaust can that help with the lean condition or without the snorkel the only option is re jetting?
On my Yamaha Warrior 350 when I rev it, the clutch will slip
Hey I have a 2013 Honda crf 250r. When I’m riding, I get high rpms really fast and my top speed is very slow. A 150 can keep up with me. Any ideas or advice as to why?
Perhaps the clutch is slipping. Check out this video on adjusting it: th-cam.com/video/xGXXff7-2VY/w-d-xo.html
If that doesn't fix it, then it might just need new clutch plates if they're slipping (sounds/feels like you're hitting neutral when accelerating in gear).
Hi my friend my problem is that my dirt bike rides fine but there a little problem with shifting but when I’m driving it and I pull the clutch in it just turns off any solution brother
So the engine dies when you pull in the clutch? If there's a safety switch on the clutch lever going down to the engine, I'd check that connection first.
My ktm 350 when I put it into gear it shuts right off but when it warms up after 5 minutes is doesn’t do it no more I thought maybe the oil or cable but I’m not sure
Hey James, sounds like the clutch plates might be sticking. This is somewhat common on KTM's because they have tighter tolerances on clutch plates. You could try changing the oil more often or use a motorcycle-specific oil that's made for "wet clutches" and is more slippery of an oil.
damn Finally I found this video help help me alot with my ZX25R so I need to replace my clutch basket
Glad it helped. Thanks for watching!
My bike wont roll in nuetral, even when i pull in the clutch. I was going 60+ when the engine immediately stoped and the back wheel locked, took forever to get it started again and it did it again when i shifted into 2nd. It wouldnt shift at all for a min, but after sitting for a lil i got it into 1st, any ideas?
Hate to say it, but it sounds like the engine might have temporarily seized and then cooled down and unlocked enough to move and start again. Hard to know for sure, but that's what it sounds like to me.
i ride a 2022 klx 300r and every time i hold in the clutch it like stalls neutral but it still does the same in any ideas on the problem
So it stalls every time you pull in the clutch? If there's a clutch safety switch on the clutch perch, make sure it's properly connected.
@@MotocrossHideout tysm
My clutch on my bike is super loose but the cord is still attached any ideas
th-cam.com/video/xGXXff7-2VY/w-d-xo.html
If that doesn't fix the loose slack, then it's probably time for a new cable.
Question when i pull my clutch it sounds like the bolts are scraping the casing how do i sort this
I would pop the clutch cover off and check before riding again.
My bikes clutch is hydraulic and every time it’s cold and put the 1st gear is turning off and then when it’s hot I can’t find the neutral
Sounds like a KTM... It could also be the oil you're using - too old or not made for a wet clutch?
@@MotocrossHideout yes it’s a KTM! If it’s not the oil??
what if my bike creeps forward, and its hard to go into second and neutral
Watch this and let us know if that helps: th-cam.com/video/xGXXff7-2VY/w-d-xo.html
Hi, my problem is stiff and not so easy pulling the clutch, i just change the fluid 5.1 and take off all air bubbles but still its stiff littlebit i wont to be softer (ktm exc-f 450 19) thank you
That bike is naturally going to have a stiffer pull because the clutch springs are stiffer so that it doesn't slip. I recommend checking out the Midwest Mountain Engineering lever to make it easier to pull: midwestme.com/
when bike is on stand is it normal for the wheel to spin kinda fast? its a 23 fc250 hydraulic clutch, has 30 hours on it and my 21 yz125 has over 125 hours or more and the clutch is all oringinal and gets abused yet is in perfect condition. was wondering because i think its kind of odd
Your Husky free spins on the stand while in neutral?
I just finished rebuilding my 2010 crf250r and I was test riding it the other couple days and my clutch was slipping out of neutral and when I put it into neutral after an hour long ride it made an awful calling noise or like a grind, does this mean I have to replace my clutch and gear or is this a replace the fibres issue?
Hard to know without more info. Best bet is to probably just pop the clutch cover off and inspect.
I have a little 125 and it jumps when i put it in gear but doesn't drag afterwards, any advice?
Hey James, it's hard to know for sure. It could be the clutch plates sticking - perhaps old or the wrong type of oil.
Great tips and advice 👌
You're welcome - thanks for watching, Brendon!
Hello need some help ! Every time I pull my clutch in put it in gear and I go to release the clutch the bike does nothing it’s acting as if it’s in nuetral what could that be ? 2001 gsxr 600
There's either something wrong with the clutch or perhaps the transmission shift fork got bent. Did the bike fall over on the left side before this started happening?
This so called clutch creep that he mentioned as the first problem is what bothers me right now and I don't know how to fix that and another thing is I can't transport my bike to a workshop so I'm kind of stuck
Hey Zvonimir, did you already try the things I mentioned in this vid? I highly recommend buying an OEM service manual for your bike if you plan on working on it yourself - they're super helpful with step-by-step tutorials and specs for tuning and maintaining your bike.
I have a question, I hear a weird spinning sound, almost rattle when I put my head to the bottom of the left side of my bike. Is this clutch or trans related? No symptoms other than that.
Hard to know for sure over text. Depends on the bike and when exactly it's happening.
Hello yeah so when i start my bike when its cold i put it in gear with clutch in it stalls however if i warm it up and if i start it up when its warmed up i can put it in 1 geat just fine another thing even if its warm and i stall it on any gear and when i start it up with the clutch pulled in it just starts going even if the clutch is pulled in
Sounds like the clutch is sticking and grabbing when it cools down. Using a different oil that's more slippery could help, or just changing it more often.
@@MotocrossHideout ok il try that thanks!
@@MotocrossHideout hello i changed the oil but i still have the same problem however i am working on a Aprilia RS 125 2stroke thats Ben sitting for 6 years not being started could it be that the clutch plates are stuck together from the old oil?
That's definitely possible. I had a similar problem with my GasGas trials bike. Using a super slippery and lightweight oil with fresh clutch plates made the most difference. Even after a few hours they would start sticking again. It was a hydraulic clutch, so that could also be a part of it if it's not functioning 100%.
@@MotocrossHideout could you give me ant tips on how to fix this and prevent it?
Hi my young lad was at the track the day he hit a jump in 2nd it sounded like the bike went into nutril parked it up the gear lever wuden move finly got it going again wude go into first but not 2nd any idears what coud be the problem thanks
Hey Robert, is that on the KTM 50? Any chance the bike has been tipped over on the left side before that happened?
When i ride and i want to stop and im in gear, pulling the cluth fully doesnt make the bike stop, it slowely goes foward.
I’m having the same problem when I’m stopped and I put it into first the bike wants to go a little bit
Sounds like the clutch is still grabbing. I'd first try adjusting the clutch cable at the lever perch so that there's very little slack.
hi i just bought a kx85 but out of nowhere first gear disappeared and when i put it in neutral it flies up into gear.
Can i get some help😊
Hey Jory, congrats on your new bike! Check out this video to make sure you're properly finding neutral: th-cam.com/video/tFzgM30vnJo/w-d-xo.html
Can anyone help I have the same problem
I have a crf250x and i was riding the other day and all of a sudden i have 6 neutrals after a bit it fixes itself and back to normal and it does that a couple more times. The clutch also drags alot when pulled in starting to move the bike. Are these worn out clutch in need of replacing symptoms?
I would pop the clutch cover off and inspect. There's definitely something wrong. Hopefully it's a minor clutch problem and not a major transmission issue.
On a side note, did the bike recently fall over on its left side?
@MotocrossHideout thanks for that will have to check it out. Hasn't fallen on its left side recently
So whenever I put my bike into 1st or any gear I have the clutch in and it stalls but it never did that before but then I give it more gas and it doesn’t stall but it’s almost like the clutch isn’t there because it just wants to move I and I don’t want the bike to move like that because I need to break and stop so how do I get that to stop happening and to where the clutch can be free and work good? Please respond I need help
Watch this first: th-cam.com/video/3NdX9bWZgFk/w-d-xo.html
Otherwise it could be old/sticky oil. Changing the oil or using a motorcycle specific oil for wet clutches can help. Or it could be warped clutch plates from getting too hot.
Hey i have a problem with my sx250,when in neutral i pull the clutch the bike turns off,and when i ride and pull clutch and give throttle the bike still goes it doesnt stop completly ,can you help me to solve this problem,thanks.
Sounds like the clutch isn't fully disengaging. I think that has a hydraulic clutch, right? Have you tried bleeding the clutch? If the lever is working properly, then I would properly take the clutch cover off to inspect the plates and basket for wear or damage.
Need help before I go purchase a new clutch. My sons Crf 250r, when releasing the clutch the friction point seems far away from full open position if that makes sense. Plus the other day I started it in first and it wanted to creep for a split second even with the clutch fully engaged. Also. I had it in gear with the bike off and pulled the clutch in to roll it and the back tyre was just sliding. 😢. Do I need a new clutch plate or could this be fixed by some adjusting ??? Please help cheers
The last part sounds normal. Have you already tried adjusting the cable so that there's a proper amount of slack?
If so, I would just pop the clutch cover off and inspect the clutch. It doesn't take long.
The clutch is a maintenance item anyway, so it's pretty common to replace the plates on a race bike.
What if I press the clutch and once I drop it in gear it shuts off?
See if this vid helps:
th-cam.com/video/yR5oqGjbpgI/w-d-xo.html
Hi whenever i pull my clutch in and try move it whilst it’s in gear it does not move at all and just is really hard to move i’ve replaced my clutch line and it’s still the same do you know what’s wrong ?
With the engine on or off? There's always going to be at least 'some' clutch drag if it's in gear, even with the clutch pulled in. I hope that's what you're asking about.
@@MotocrossHideoutthat's what I'm asking too I guess I'll just start it and try it even tho I pop started bikes before and it never had drag like this lol it's always the screw with the lock nut I can adjust too right
Pitbike starts fine goes in gear but is in limp mode moves a little but full on limp mode please help
Did anything happen before the bike started doing this? What bike?
I have a 2002 crf450r and if i put it in gear when the bike is off and pull the clutch in it does move still as if the clutch is not pulled in when bike is running i have no issues any idea ?
Maybe I'm just a little groggy on Monday (lol), but I'm having a hard time understanding your comment... So are you saying that pulling the clutch in with the engine running doesn't do anything?
Clutch only works with engine running while off if I pull clutch in while in gear it's as if clutch is not pulled in
It's common for there to be a little bit of clutch drag if it's in gear with the engine off and the clutch pulled in.
If the clutch works well when the engine is running then I don't think I'd worry about it.
when i put my bike into gear and have the clutch pulled in the bike still wants to move, do you know what the solution is?
Did you try adjusting the clutch cable, Carter?
yes same goes to my CRF250L
Mine did that and I had to hold it with the brake… a new clutch basket solved the issue for me.. mine was notched/grooved but even though the clutch discs seemed to slide fine on the basket fingers when I slid the plates by hand.. the problem never stopped till I got the new clutch basket
When I rev my bike to do a hole shot and dump the clutch I hear this metal shinking noise idk how to explain it but it shifts fine and it doesn’t slip. My front sprocket it a little worn down but what do you think it is?
Hard to say over text. What does "a little worn" look like? Is the chain properly tensioned? Have you pulled the clutch cover off to see if everything is still tight/intact?
@@MotocrossHideout the front sprocket was definitely flipped around to get some more life out of it from the previous owner so it looks shaved off on both sides and the chain was properly tensioned before that noise happened but I have not pulled the cover off yet
@@milkmaster7787 If it's been flipped around, then it's time for new sprockets.
I just replaced the clutch on my bike and now it's making knocking sounds, the sound happens wether or not the clutch is engaged and seems to lessen when the bike is revved a little. I've checked the timing and the valves and the clutch basket. The basket doesn't have a lot of play though I did notice some play. The only thing I really noticed is that one of the oil pump gears had a little bit of play. The bike seems to get hot really fast and I even saw a little bit of smoke after the bike was on for a few seconds. Could it be an oil pump problem somehow?
Hard to say over text. If it were me and there were no weird sounds before replacing the clutch, I would take the clutch apart and make sure everything is properly installed in the right order with no missing parts and that it's all torqued to OEM specs.
@@MotocrossHideout that's what I did but I guess I'll go through it again, I might end up splitting the cases at this point and just making sure everything is good, I hope I don't have to do that though
It's hard for me to help diagnose without seeing and hearing it, so I'm just going off of what it sounds like you're saying.
When you say that the sound started only after replacing the clutch, that makes me think that something from the clutch is causing it, but I could be wrong.
Does that make sense?
@@MotocrossHideout yeah, it's just really being weird, I'll figure it out but rn I'm just kinda left scratching my head
my bike used to slip while giving full throttle, i guess its because not good adjusted clutch cable
Definitely possible.
Hello I have a 2008 ktm 200 xcw
Hydraulic clutch
I’ve gone through the master and slave cylinders. Bled the system inspected the plates and basket and it will still not disengage any ideas ?
Thank you
Hey Robert, I can imagine your frustration...
So you rebuilt the master and slave cylinders with new parts? When did it start doing this?
Also, how much pressure does the lever have when you pull it in?
@@MotocrossHideout , yes rebuilt with new parts new gaskets etc , I finally got the clutch bled and I have just a bit of free play on lever if I am looking at the clutch plates they move a little
The lever has a good firm feel I can feel the difference when the air gets out since I’ve bled it several times so I’m just wondering what I should test into next I took the push rod out seems fine so I’m stumped
The lever is firm but not hard to pull
I’m assuming it is bled there are no bubbles coming out the bleeder. However if I look into the master and pump the clutch there are tiny tiny bubbles coming up I don’t know if that is a leak or what also on the slave I tried the thin gasket and the medium gasket seemed the same
Thanks for reading
If there's still bubbles coming up then it's probably not done bleeding the air out. Those lines can be a pain in the butt to bleed.
@@MotocrossHideout ok will do the mineral oil clutch fluid is expensive lol
Thanks for your insight
My problem is that when i let go off the clutch there is a wining sound even when im riding dont know if its bad or if can still ride it??
What bike and has it always made the whining sound?
@@MotocrossHideout its 2005 crf230f and its been doing it since i got it i have seen a few videos of other 230 that have the same issue but mine seems to be a bit louder.
If it's coming from the clutch and it isn't getting louder then it's probably not a major issue, but if you want it to be reliable, I would remove and inspect all the clutch parts. This guy sounds like the same problem and it turned out to be the clutch basket:
www.thumpertalk.com/forums/topic/1187333-help-engine-whine/
@@MotocrossHideout thanks for the help!!
@@B3N017 You're welcome. Please share with your friends or family that are getting into dirt biking - I'd really appreciate it!
hello my friend, i have a Beta 400rr 2010 and i have a problem :( when i start the bike (cold start or not), pull the clutch and get the 1 gear, start moving even with the clutch pull! Someone can tell me the problem? about the other gear no problem, everething works
Hey Alberto, so are you saying that it's moving forward when you put it in gear with the clutch pulled in? Is it a hydraulic or cable clutch?
My clutch pops when I pull it in sometimes I think it a spring in the engine or something any ideas?
Hey Lewis, could you go into a little more detail? What exactly do you mean when you say it "pops when I pull it in sometimes"?
@@MotocrossHideout I think the clutch is not engaging right. Could it be a clutch spring or something internal ? Thanks
Has it always done this? What bike?
@@MotocrossHideout my crf 100 we bought it the other day
Okay, gotcha - congrats on your new bike! It's hard to say over text, but it could be a worn clutch basket. First, have you tried adjusting the clutch cable?
When I put my bike into 1st gear sometimes it will just stall out but not every time but as long as I keep a little throttle on it it won’t. And when I pull the clutch in to roll down a hill it most of the time sounds like the clutch isn’t fully engaged. Also I will come to a stop with clutch pulled in on flat ground and it will inch forward anyway but it doesn’t happen all the time. Is my clutch worn or do i need to mess with the cable
I'd definitely start by adjusting the cable since that's easy to do. Loosen the locknut and turn the small knob out until there's just a tiny by of play/wiggle in the lever before it gets tight, then tighten the locknut again. Let me know how it goes!
@@MotocrossHideout thanks for the feedback, I will let you know how it goes
@@MotocrossHideout I tried adjusting the cable, but it didn’t make any difference.
@@frankmajewski-tw4vv What bike is it and how much freeplay/wiggle does the cable have before it starts building tension?
@@MotocrossHideout it’s a 2004 Yz125 and I adjusted it so it only has a tiny bit of wiggle
1:32 Here it dose sound like my issue but the clutch was recently replaced could that be caused from a wrong install? Also after 10-20 minutes of riding the issue go's away
Did this problem start happening only after it was replaced?
@MotocrossHideout unknown I bought it off a guy 2weeks ago he told me he replaced it so I'm thinking he may have done it incorrectly
@ThugCrow yeh I've seen comments on clutch replacements and a new issue after replacement.
My clutch grips more the hotter it gets not less I can’t find anything on it? I put a new clutch in it but it was like 50 bucks if I remember right
Did you replace the metal discs as well as the fibers? Clutch plates expand as they get hotter, which can make them feel more "grabby", especially on a KTM since they tend to have less of a gap between the plates. Make sure you're using oil that's made for a "wet clutch" as well.
@@MotocrossHideout it came with the metal discs but if i remember right i think it had more fibers and metal discs than the oem i took off it also had heavier springs i think
Did you measure them and check the flatness? Heavier springs are going to put more pressure on the plates so they won't slip as easily and can take more abuse.
i have a problem where the clutch is dragging and doesnt want to change gears. the bike also idles lower than usual in any gear (including neutral), the revs drop down way faster than they should when clutch is pulled in (again in any gear), and the bike trys to move/drive itself forward when the clutch is pulled (again in any gear). I have got new friction plates coming in the post and hoping that will fix the issue. the engine oil was replaced 4 days ago and i put a little too much in, i hope this aint the reason why the clutch has gone but will have to see. if anyone has had this issue and fixed it, please let me know
Have you tried adjusting the clutch cable, Kieran?
I have adjusted it from loosest to tightest with no luck
Mine cluch grabs when its all the way out almost
Sounds like the clutch needs to be adjusted or replaced. Check out this vid first: th-cam.com/video/xGXXff7-2VY/w-d-xo.html