New Ruger-made Marlin 1895 Guide Gun 45-70 - The Good AND . . .
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- After fits and starts, the Ruger-made Guide Gun review is here. Enjoy!
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Non-fluted bolt is interesting.
Kudos to both you and Ruger. Obviously Ruger provided you with the gun. I assume that they are paying you as well. Most companies today would shut you down regarding that hammer/bolt engagement issue, insisting that they be allowed to fix it and that you not mention it. Many reviewers would happily go along with that. You chose to show us the problem. Ruger chose to allow you to show us *and* committed to fixing it. That is unfortunately rare in today’s world of manipulated messaging, and I thank you both.
I really appreciate your comment! And thank you! But Ruger is not paying me at all. But I will say this, they do expect an honest review. That said, this was one of the hardest videos to make. I knew I had to report what I saw and at the same time and not lead people to incendiary conclusions.
@@TargetSuite YouScrewed won’t let me edit my comment. Obviously my assumption that you were being paid was wrong. Nevertheless, you and Ruger both deserve compliments in a world where the UN tells Google how to sort search results regarding climate change. You handled a touchy situation very well IMHO, and based on my own experiences with Ruger I’m confident that they will fix that issue.
I will add that I was all set to buy one of these Guide Guns but now will wait a bit …
I waited until late in the of 2017 to buy my Remington made Marlin because earlier edition's had everything from poor function to fit and finish issues and finally they got them all corrected and mine has worked flawlessly and is a tack driver.
@@TargetSuite I think so as well. Gun companies in today's world wants to keep these older brands, as well as their own, in completely and increasingly anti-gun political world we live in. I did wonder if you requested a model that would be photographed as detailed as you did and they sent you a better than average specimen. What you photographed is a better than average speciment of a factory model of anything. If that is standard for Marlin now my appreciation for them to continue to take criticism that is a great thing.
As TS stated in his reply, most content creators who are supplied products to review are not directly paid. However, many who are not as ethical will choose to ignore flaws in order to keep getting more samples.
In my humble opinion, Ruger resurrecting Marlin was the best firearms news in years.
Couldn't agree more!
I’m from Australia, I don’t know if we were getting sent the shit examples of the Remington made models or not but honestly, without any exaggeration every single one I picked up in any gun shop was disgraceful. Every single one. They all had something very wrong with it. The most common thing was surface rust. Rust in a brand new rifle, it made me think they weren’t blueing the metal or something. Plus they had an annoying QR code on the action etc. Just a heap of shit.
I don’t think we should have been too surprised though. Remington rifles were garbage too. I remember when I wanted to buy my first gun, I read in gun magazines about the Remington 700 Sendero with the fluted barrel. I saw one in my local gun shop, I was so excited. I asked to have a look at it but when he handed it to me, I looked down the outside of the barrel and saw the flutes were all wonky. It made me sick. I have it back to him in disgust and bought a Sako.
I’ve only got one Ruger, a Ruger No. 1, it’s a well made rifle so I’m not suprised they are making good marlins. 👍
Totally agree, I got one of the first 4000 trappers and absolutely love it.
Amen to that, love my new trapper. I put the comet muzzle brake on mine and male shooting the nasty heavy hard cast extremely manageable. I've been waiting for years to get one and didn't want a remlin.
Absolutely!
Marlin design and Ruger quality, how can you go wrong, and thanks Ruger for saving our beloved Marlin
I really can't wait for the 1894's to get back in production! But, I must say, the wood on that Guide Gun was gorgeous! Also, I like that they're making them with 6+1 capacity like the 336's, instead of the 4+1.
Amen!
I too hope Ruger brings back the 1894’s , maybe even a Limited Run in 41 mag !
I could go for a .357 one for plinking fun
I'm hoping that they bring back the 1894 dark series
I read somewhere recently that Ruger can’t compete with Henry in the market segment where an 1894 fits. After looking at some Henry lever guns yesterday and talking with a manager at a store that sells a LOT of guns, I’m certain that there’s still a market for a Marlin 1894 with Ruger quality. Winchester/Miroku 1892s sell fast and sometimes for stupid money. The price point does need to be around $1,000 though and that may be tough.
Glad to see a new channel, and because he’s a retired mechanical engineer with a lot of time of his hands, I bet the content is going to be fire!
Thanks!
I can't wait for Ruger to bring back the 336 in 30-30 but I really hope they make a version just like the Guide Gun. That finish and wood styling but with the threaded barrel! I'm ready to buy!
The 336 35 Remington and 30-30 are next
Id love a non-microgroove 336
@iKocher That would be sweet!
@Timothy Mckee not with cast
According to the website.. the 30-30 and the 35 Remington are next. Both having the same nutmeg laminate stock as you see in this video.
I personally am waiting for the 35 Remington :)
That was a great review! Liked hearing about you and why consumers are important in their findings of products used. So happy to see this Marlin in action! Thank you for your work on making this video!
Good catch on the bolt remaining in contact with the top of the hammer. It made me check my Henry, Winchester, and earlier Marlin lever actions to see if they had the proper fit. No issues with any of them. I'm sure the folks at Ruger will take note and sharpen their production standards.
I never get tired of shooting my level guns. Can’t wait for the 1894 to come out.
Likewise! Can't wait!
glad I have my Marlin made 1895 in .45-70....it is a beast. Very adaptable with a QR release on a Leupold Scout Scope along with Ghost Ring aperture sight on rear with a fiber optic up front where I drilled out a hole in sight hood to let light in and still provide protection. It has never let me down....even with full loads from Buffalo Bore or Garret. Great review on the new version...
Beautiful rifle. Love the look of the furniture. Thank you for sharing, George!
My dad bought a Marlin 1895 in their later years before going bust. He kept it in the box and never shot it. When he passed my brother inherited it, but he found it won't even chamber the cartridges! It's no wonder Marlin went out of business.
I'm glad Ruger is making quality Marlin guns again.
Thanks for this review. Kudos to you, sir, for consistently giving the best reviews in all of your videos. I always get something extra and enjoy them.
That's the way a rifle should look. Just beautiful! And that's the way a rifle should shoot. Just perfect! This is my favorite of all the many guns you've brought to us. And I'm just fine with you shooting all the hominy you can buy. Thanks for your hard work in bringing us another exceptional video. Sure hope you feel better soon!
Thank you ma'am! I always appreciate your comments!
I love my .45-70. It's basically the only gun I carry in the woods, now. Thanks for this
I was especially excited about Marlin's 1897 Cowboy octagonal barrel 45-75 GOVT offering, and the one offered in .357. I was so disappointed when they folded up shop and I had inadvertently missed the boat. I sure hope that Ruger makes some improvements and slowly brings those back; there is no design better than Marlin's lever actions!
Great review with the comparison. My Marlin is an older original JM version in the 1895 "Cowboy' configuration. I handload my own 350 gr cast using a duplex black / smokeless load. I use this rifle as a camp defender and at our winter gong shoot. A 12" gong shot at 200 yards shot offhand/ freestanding. Sights have been changed to a Williams FP peep and Lyman 17 front for a circle within a circle sight picture.
I really enjoy your videos. I always learn something new. Thanks for explaining how the bolt interacts with the hammer and what to look for. That explains why my Henry Colt 45 is so smooth and my Winchester 94 in 30-30 is so difficult to operate relative to my Henry. I will keep that in mind for future purchases. Thanks again.
I’m very curious to see whether Ruger will release any factory takedown rifles in revolver cartridges like .357 Magnum. Marlins were a common choice for aftermarket takedown conversions, so you’d think they could…
Newer sub here, just wanted to say how much I enjoy the video! I very much liked you pointing out your background before the deep and critical analysis. Good call and good work
Thanks for the review. I would never have thought to check the guide bolt verse the hammer. Great to know. Stay safe and healthy!
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Great job on the review. I love all my JM Marlins, It's great to see Ruger doing a fine job keeping them alive.
Thanks! And yes I am proud of what Ruger is doing with the Marlin brand.
Great gun. Just saw my first one today at a gun show. Fit & finish are perfect. Not the most economical but not unreasonable. Thanks.
I"m a big fan of your videos, and a Louisiana resident!. I have a JM Marlin Guide gun - when they first came out - in May 2000. At the time I had an FFL, and my cost was $362.50. What a bargain! Mine has the 18" barrel . The bolt properly clears the hammer like your Trapper. It also has the ported barrel from the factory. I do like the new GG, especially the pistol grip and large lever. Mine has the straight stock and more traditional lever. I have fired mine 305 times - mostly handloads. I installed a Skinner aperture sight; I noticed the new one has the traditional semi-buckhorn sights. I also like the threaded barrel.
With my cast (linotype) RCBS 305 FNGC bullet, it will group about 3/4" at 50 yards. I haven't shot it at 100 yards, but likely groups would be 1.5" - 1.75". It's a great little rifle.
I have fired my brother's new SS Trapper - like yours - and was duly impressed!
I also have JM Marlins in 44 Magnum (1966), 444 Marlin (1989), and a 39A (1954). Love my Marlins! I can easily envision adding some Ruger/Marlins to my collection!
Great presentation and a beautiful setting! Thank you.
That hominy cloudburst was absolutely classic! Thank you for another great video!
You are welcome!
Great to see that Ruger is producing a quality Marlin brand again, and glad that they seem to be taking your input seriously. I have no doubts that they will continue to refine their production issues.
Now, if they'll just come out with one like yours. That one I'll pay hard-earned money for.
That is a lovely beast! I've never felt more like a Fudd than lately as I've gravitated so strongly towards lever action rifles.
I got my hands on one of the SBL models and I love it she deadly accurate and the wood to metal finish is indeed beautiful and very well done. Kudos to ruger for reviving the marlin rifle (the one we really want not the remlin disasters)
Thank you for the "ride" sir. I can't owe any firearms from where I come from but I can enjoy that beautiful piece that you shown. =)
Thank you, hope you feel better soon.
Thanks!
Very nice job on the video my friend. You were able to make me feel like I was right there with you handling that gun. I like the laminated stock as well. It is nice to be rewarded with a fine product from a fine company again.
Thank you sir. Yes this is a fine gun. I hope the hiccup with the hammer is not overblown. It's a small thing that will be easily corrected.
Great review mate, love your reviews and keep up the great work , cheers and greetings from Darwin in the NT mate 👍
It's great to hear from you! Thanks!
Beautiful guns. I cant wait to get one myself. I love my henry 45-70….but those marlins just look amazing.
Just came across your channel.. Great job on the video honesty is always the best. Always great to have another hickok45 style ,but with your own flavor, presenter. Keep it up. Yes I'm aware you been around quite awhile. But your channel really seems to be getting traction now.
Thanks! I appreciate your comment!
Currently have one on order and can't wait to get it.
Very nice review.... That Hominy shot was impressive. Even exploded the Mtn Dew. I'll be getting a GG when I can
Great review and thank you for sharing your background… Very impressive! I look forward to the follow up on resolving the bolt issue. Also, I think it would be nice if you could comment on the customer service response time.
Thanks. I will definitely post a follow up but it won't be about customer service. I am working directly with production on this issue.
The Marlin safety features are outstanding. The two piece firing pin designed to fall out operational position until the bolt locking mechanism is firmly in place. Also the hammer cannot be operated until the lever is in fully closed and locked position. Surrounded by hammer forged steel all about the receiver proper and barrel chamber juncture.
Proof tested by millions of real world firings in all weather conditions and ambient temperatures.
The cross bolt safety can be left on for additional precaution as rounds are cycled out of battery.
Always assume rifle is loaded and treat muzzle accordingly.
I always enjoy your tutorials of various firearms. Quality content.
My dad always liked both Ruger and Marlin as gun makers,so do I,just well made guns!😊
Thankyou Sir for an excellent review with the 'Engineer's eye for fine detail' many thanks.
You are welcome. Thanks for watching!
Great rifle and the blued finish with walnut stock is handsome. Great insights as well. I never knew about the unload feature before, I'll have to try that on my Taylor Alaskan. My best friend and I are waiting for the 1894 which is taking way way too long.
I think they addressed the hammer and bolt issue. I picked up my marlin guide gun about two weeks ago but it does not have that issue. Thanks for this video.
You and Ruger are really teasing us with these guns. My 45/70 Marlin tag has already been filled with a 95 Cowboy, but that SS Trapper sure seems to be calling my name.
Haha!
I admire your dedication, George. I hope that bolt issue gets resolved. I'm surprised a fluted bolt isn't used across the entire 1895 line. I hope that stout recoil cleared your sinuses.
Tom, it sure moved stuff around💥
@@TargetSuite Sinuses, shoulder, fillings in your teeth... 😊
Another good video. 👍 love the traditional blued and wood tone. I would like them to come out with a 24" to 26" barrell as well as in 30 30 cal
. Keep up the good work. Your engineering experience really pays off on your eye for detail to the benefit of the rest of us and the manufacturers. Thanks again for your commitment 👏.
Thanks!
There was a cowboy model Marlin 45 70. 26" octagon barrel.
Yep. I almost bought that one before I ran into my Winchester 1886.
be nice to see what they do to fix this issue thanks for the video. keep us posted
Great video. Thank you for the review the guid gun is probably what I’ll be after. The ejection option for cartridges is a great option on both. Thanks again.
I can't wait to get one. I've got one on order with my local gun dealer. Thanks for the great review and info.
Good luck!
You’re right, I do need one.
My favorite feature on the new Ruger Marlins is the curved stock grip vs the straight grip. The straight grip and the small lever makes for a painful day at the range if you are shooting factory heavy loads.😀
I prefer the style of the straight grip and have several rifles in that configuration. But you are spot on. With heavy recoil you have to mind your grip or feel the consequences😉
I have a straight stock and have no problems withit
I like both! I have a pistol grip 336 and a straight-stock 1895G and both are great rifles.
@@TargetSuite I also have both on my lever guns. I also prefer the straight stocl-history thing probably I remember when I got my first straight stock I didn't think I would like it but found out I did! But at the same time I don't shoot a whole lot of heavy recoiling rounds when I go out.
I have many lever action rifles, and a vast majority have straight stocks. I much prefer straight stocks for both look and feel.
Nice to see this version of the guide gun. Hopefully the 444 and 450Marlin are put back into the lineup but the real gem that Ruger needs to market again with Hornady is the wonderful 338 Marlin Xpress. The 338 Xpress and old 348winchester are simply the finest big game cartridges in an traditional lever gun.
This is an awesome video in the fact you do testing of the Ruger made Marlin lever gun to make sure the hammer does not hit the bolt.. and the Manufacturer will correct it.... Nice..
Great content as usual.
I have an orginal 45/70 Marlin Guide Gun with magna ported barrel.
I got it at least 15 plus years ago and it is a beast.
What a beautiful rifle , and a great review . Thank You Sir .
Thank you! I appreciate your comment and I appreciate you watching!
Good video, I love to see the 1895 still going strong with its third manufacturer. The guide guns are cool, but i'd really like to see Ruger go the other way and re issue the Cowboy series. 9 rounds of 45-70 cannot be wrong. And in 30-30 and 38-55 too.
Well done George. Hope you get to feeling better! It sure is a beautiful rifle!
Thank you Terry I appreciate that.
I have the Remlin 336 BL. It has been fantastic. I purchased a 1894 from Remington with a canted barrel but I honestly can’t complain about the Remington era 336.
Just bought the sbl and honesty couldn’t be happier!
Appreciate your video and just a gorgeous rifle.thank you
i REALLY appreciate seeing this tech, issue between these 2 tools!
Been waiting for this video 🔥🔥🔥
I've been waiting to get it out. I actually filmed three other versions but was not happy with any of them. I wanted to make sure and get this one right! And it may still not be "right" but it's the best I could do at the time
That's good shooting, George!
Those are both nice rifles. My own Marlin 1895 Guide Gun is chambered for the .450 Marlin. It's got a "JM" stamped barrel. I replaced the standard squarish lever with a big lever from Brownells, as the smaller lever used to hit my knuckles whenever I shot it. I hope Ruger starts making the 1895 in .450 Marlin again.
Thank you for another good video!
@black bear I own them both. The .450 is more powerful in factory loadings.
I called Marlin, asked if my early ported Guide Gun could be converted to 450 M?? Nope, heat treat is different, and 45-70 case has more volume, anyways.
All Remington and Ruger made Marlins are fully heat treated, the Ruger is heat treated before milling which is more difficult but provides a better finished product. Conversion to a .450 is pointless and anyone who owns a .45-70 should get equipment to load for it. It is a wonderful and fun cartridge to shoot and load. And easy.
@@JamesWilliams-cc1ow The phone call showed there is a difference between heat treats for 45-70, and 450 Marlins. The 450 M can be chambered in some bolt actions, whereas 45-70’s are limited to Siamese Arisaka copies of Mausers and a couple of Lee Enfields.
@@DavidTrainmore are you affirming that you recently spoke directly with the process engineer at the Marlin manufacturing cell at the Ruger plant in Mayoden, NC and that you were told that the pre-process heat treat that Ruger now uses is inferior to that used by previous iterations of Marlin rifles? Ruger-Marlin does not currently manufacture an 1895 model for the .450 marlin cartridge. The .450 Marlin is an obsolete cartridge because it has no advantages over the .45-70 Government.
Thank you now I know I will get the 1895 SBL.
Classy review. Thanks George.👍
Thanks Andy. And you know the back story😉
Super excited about these…just wish I could find one.
I love the unload feature.
45-70 Super Penetrators... damn. Great review and information
Thank you, Geoge beautiful scenario to try the new Ruger Marlin 1895.
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I'm really interested to see if Ruger will resurrect the .308 marlin Express and .338 Marlin Express, since Remington killed those cartridges off for being associated with Hornady ammo. Ruger and Hornady have always been close partners, so I'm very hopeful we'll see a relaunch of those two rounds.
Great gun one of my favorite caliber
Great review n demo
Nice gun I’ll have to check out.
I haven’t seen one of your videos for some time, and must say the quality has really improved! Nice job, just Sub’d to see more.
Really waiting for the 1894 to come back and Ruger's take on the 39A.
I would love to have a 39a in 23 magnum
22 magnum
Those are cool. I have an older JM guide gun I got at a pawnshop cheap way back. I was unaware of the unload feature. Nice range setup
I love pawn shops! It just takes a lot of shopping to do a little buying😉 thanks for the comment by the way!
Smile? That kicked me sitting in my recliner! My shoulders have been repaired and watching your intro made me hurt. Thanks for the range time though, enjoyed it.
Excellent review
Brings new meaning to the saying "Modern Day Classic"
Love your range set-sup.
Wow, 45-70 power! It's snowing Hominy in Louisiana! When I lived in Alaska I fired a early Marlin guide gun with 440gr. Buffalo Bore loads, whew, makes your eyes water. Now if we can get a 26" octagon barrel. Great review, hope you are feeling better.
Feeling great! Thanks for your comment! It must have been that snowy weather in Louisiana😉
Hello, I purchased a 1895 Guide Gun it has the bolt/hammer issue you describe.in your review. I knew about it when i made the purchase and had the dealer reach out to Marlin/Ruger for a RMA.I didnt think this would be an issue. However they told the dealer I purchased from there was no issue. I was shocked and plan to call them myself, just wanted to see how they resolved the issue for you. Appreciate the great reviews!
Good shot! Especially after a fast walk. Looked like manna from heaven!
Enjoy your posts very much Sir!
Thank you. I appreciate that!
I'm sure there's a lot more to come. A 336 in 30-30 will certainly be on the table. It just takes time.
Yes. The Ruger CEO said new models would roll out slowly. And that is what is happening.
GREAT! Saw you loading Underwood “Extreme” ammo. Great choice!
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Watching from south Louisiana, thanks !
Thanks Mark! Always good to hear from a "neighbor"😉
Hopefully I can get some more feedback with the bolt catching on the hammer. I'm unsure of what I need to do. Again I have the Ruger Marlin 1895 sbl. Great review!
great job on the close ups of the rifle
Thanks!
Good information on a classic gun. Hopefully they’ll put the old 444 Marlin back in the line up soon. I’d love to see it in that same model.
More likely we will see the 450 bushmaster
450 bushmaster ammo is more plentiful and dare I say cheaper than 444?
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12:00 - That idea to put the chain under the can to emboss the can bottom from the force of that big slug was brilliant.
Thanks! Just having some fun😉
Just looked through the lineup Ruger is making right now, and I think my preferred configuration would be a hybrid of the SBL and Trapper. I really like the look of the gray laminate furniture of the SBL, but would prefer the matte satin finish of the Trapper. I also prefer the longer barrel of the SBL, but would rather have the Skinner peep sight setup from the Trapper, instead of the picatinny rail and fiber optic setup.
Kudos to you sir! Nice to see a fellow HP/Compaq engineer!
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Such a beauty. Drooling.
Thanks for the breakdowns. I own a pre64 Winchester 1892 30-30. Love levers
I'm always looking for new firearms channel where the info is presented intelligently without pompousity, with minimal redundancy, & not being told what my politics should be. Subscribed.
Thanks! Glad to have you!
Mission accomplished; a protracted rain of hominy.
The most fun I had with my new level action rifle was taking it completely apart and rubbing the necessary surfaces with 6 micron diamond paste, smoothing out the action.
Nice wood grain pattern ,love it
Yep. It's purdy!
I loved seeing the traditional Marlin hooded front sight again. I'm hoping the 336 is soon to arrive in .35 Remington. I know the .30-30 is more popular but the .35 Rem packs a lot more punch than the old .30-30. I would bet money on the .444 coming out soon but I doubt if the .450 Marlin will ever come back into production. Thank you, George for your reviews. I always look forward to your productions.
Thanks for your comment Mark. If you'll go back and watch the end of the video you'll see that there may be hope for the 450 Marlin cartridge.
I have a Marlin 336 XLR in 35 Remington and I absolutely love it. It’s about seven or eight years old I think, and it was made and bought before Remington got a hold of Marlin. I think Marlins are some of the greatest guns ever made.
@@TargetSuite By golly, that would be all right with me. Marlin and Hornady tried to make the lever rifle fill all needs with new cartridges like the .308 Marlin and the .338 Marlin. Sadly, both rifles are no longer made and I'm not even sure a person can find ammo anymore. I would like to see the 1895 Marlin add the .375 Winchester and the .348 Winchester. I can dream.....
I like that we have a Mechanical engineer giving your review. You mentioned de-burring I think thats very important. The old days parts were polished, de-burred and jeweled in some cases. Thanks