The Real Story of Rhaegar & Lyanna - A Song of Ice and Fire - Game of Thrones

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    Rhaegar and Lyanna, the Tourney at Harrenhal, Robert's Rebellion, baby Jon snow, the Prince That Was Promised (one part anyway) - what's this R+L=J thing all about? Why did they do what they did, and what was it like for them?
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ความคิดเห็น • 670

  • @theloafabread4341

    Kind of hilarious that David Lightbringer, one of if not the most prolific ASOIF theorist, has waited this long to cover R+L=J for the first time 😂

  • @ZREllor-og6yw

    Idea: if Rhaegar wanted the third head of the dragon to commemorate Visenya, he might have wanted a warrior woman to be that kid’s mom.

  • @NealOfTaylor44
    @NealOfTaylor44 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +19

    that random clip of Rhaegar just silently eating cereal is a gem 😂

  • @cloverazar5315
    @cloverazar5315 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +22

    No wonder Robert thinks about Rhaegar bitterly. Homie’s last word was Robert’s fiancée’s name. Rhaegar couldn’t have done it better if he’d moonwalked into all seven of the heavens singing Rick Astley

  • @CaylaCommonFolk

    That ad with reading Rhaegar is just great. Good enough not to skip past 😂

  • @jenniferarmstrong8879

    There is this one line from Eddard IV that is obviously R + L = J. For context, in Eddard III, Ned killed lady. In this scene, he is talking to Little Finger about the assassin sent to kill Bran: “Ned rose and paced the length of the room. "If the queen had a role in this or, gods forbid, the king himself … no, I will not believe that." Yet even as he said the words, he remembered that chill morning on the barrowlands, and Robert's talk of sending hired knives after the Targaryen princess. He remembered Rhaegar's infant son, the red ruin of his skull, and the way the king had turned away, as he had turned away in Darry's audience hall not so long ago. He could still hear Sansa pleading, as Lyanna had pleaded once.”

  • @onyedikachukwumiracle

    It's funny that Jon is a Targaryen that looks like a Stark (Black hair and brown eyes), while his cousins are Starks that look like Tullys (Red hair and blue eyes)

  • @sandche8995

    Maester Aemon remembers how the love of his life looked. The shape of her nose, color of her eyes, etc.

  • @jclaburn
    @jclaburn  +93

    I came to R+L=J through Jaime’s speech to Catelyn about how he has more honor than Ned bc he never dishonored Cersei while Ned dishonored Cat. I realized that Ned would not have done this. But he would sacrifice his own honor publicly to save a child. That plus the blood in the bed and Lyanna’a dying words to Ned at the Tower of Joy in his fever dream.

  • @Ivbo
    @Ivbo  +77

    I’ve always found the blame that Rhaegar gets for the death of his wife and children a little unfair. He left them in safe hands, at the seat of his houses power, protected by one of the most naturally skilled swordsman in Westeros who’s a sworn Knight of the Kingsguard and who’s also from a great house, he can’t truly be blamed for Jamie’s carelessness.

  • @CaylaCommonFolk

    I propose that neither of them lived long enough to have a real fight in their relationship so their bond over the prophecy combined with their attractions towards each other with those rose colored glasses would breed that their relationship was “picture perfect”. Up until they died of course.

  • @kenthehobo

    "But babe, I wasn't cheating! It was prophecy"

  • @justokayemilay6029
    @justokayemilay6029 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +19

    I love hearing Jon called a special snowflake.

  • @themanyinone6

    I think another important detail and clue from GRRM on Rhaegar’s character (and how he did not abduct/abuse Lyanna) is how the very first time Dany is compared to him, is when she’s defending the women from being r-worded by the dothraki. Have never seen that as coincidence either. But now I did watch and as said earlier, gorgeous video!! You connected the clues simply and it feels just obvious with your explanations. Such wonderful job, thank you!!✨

  • @Pomshka
    @Pomshka  +11

    I always imagine that when Rhaegar went off to find the "Knight of the laughing tree", he must have found Lyanna, worked out it was her somehow and the pair of them probably fought!

  • @mzfreddie

    What is interesting about the Hades & Persephone is that in some versions they have a son Zagerus who is killed and then reborn and becomes Dionysius. Yes, most people know it as Zeus and Persephone having a kid, but Hades was often referred to as basically "Zeus of the Underworld". They had a healthy respect of him and didn't want to draw attention to themselves by using his name.

  • @joshuabarnard5702
    @joshuabarnard5702 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

    Great video as always!

  • @7thmizukage
    @7thmizukage 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    Giving Gerold Hightower and these other seemingly throwaway or background characters such depth is actually going to make a reread so refreshing

  • @michaelgregorich3774

    I've always assumed lyanna told rheagar the story of Beal the bard, the prophecy clicked into place in his head, then the crown of roses given back to her would be more symbolic.

  • @mormontsraven4072

    Jaime says about Rhaella