I had a pair of skar audio evl 12 the first edition.. and now I just acquired another pair of the new ones. One change I noticed right away was the coil. The old one have a copper color coil.. the new ones have that fake high temp black glue. I'm not sure if they're using an aluminum coil now, which would bring the fs higher. I put them in the same box. They slap but the old ones seemed to play the low extension better, we'll see when they break in.
Idk why people hate on them so much but I always had great experiences with skar. I switched over to resilient sounds for the past year or so but am.thunking about going back.
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My bro bragged about how good skar was got 2 12s and a amp well first so came broke no biggie. Second amp came and he was Good, was in the process of breaking them in blew both got the replacement broke them he sold everything w with warranty. I'm not saying all skar will do that but a guy with a much system experience as him can break em on a break in twice. Ima have a hard pass on getting them now
@@bigballmagrawl0929 prop due to break in. Lol... Been doing this since 90's full tilt from the start. Blew one pair of subs n I knew they were gonna blow because I was OVER POWERING them. Most not all but MOST blowing subs is USER error. Over powering or Clipping. Break in is just unstiffening the spider, s
From experience they sound terrible and I’ve had all my subs in proper custom built enclosures to take the argument of design out of the equation. But you get what you pay for in the end so you shouldn’t expect too much from them. But out of all the skar series the evl is by far the worst of them. They have so many better options.
hello, the noise comes from the outer part of the magnetic field where the coil is placed, there you will find an aluminum pipe that is fixed from the bottom of the motor to the top, this helps to eliminate the distortion, it also happens they come off because they are only glued with glue, if you don't understand look at the Fi company and you will see this option 👍
Maybe just me but we're they out of phase? Frame rate on camera seemed to me to show them moving in opposite directions. Nice build, I as well built a 6th order, mine is isobaric tho.
curious to see what happens me my self not into the big surrounds seems like gives the sub less cone area i like the skinny taller surrounds you can tell the sundown looks to have more cone area oops left the comment half way threw the video guess will see what happens lol
People said it was a waste of time for me to do a sixth order for my 1 15" xmaxxx but 148db at 24hz sealed at the headrest and 142db at 19hz at the headrest it half power put an end to the haters
Personally I like to do a bare minimum of double the port area for the front chamber is I have in the back chamber usually 2.5 ideally what I've prefers 3x the amount of Port area as the rear chamber I prefer the sound of gives
Personal experience. Evl took more power than ddx. I had 12 evl and 12 ddx. Ddx 12's I had on taramps smart 3 and for a month were fine. Switched to smart 5k and both ddx coils unwound. That was not even 2 months. Got a killer deal on 212 Evl. Still have them daily driver no problems for the past almost yr. So I totally disagree.
@@Simpleman1078agree I have 3 EVL18s and they are all amazing subs! Seems like most skar fans hate on the EVL line, but there the most popular selling out of all the skar models
@@andyamysarizonaadventures5450 Its your box bro.. if your box came with the subs as a combo then its tuned to 45htz. Which is a bit high if your wanting lows. The svrs will get low.. plenty of vids on yt. Box needs tuned lower is all. Have someone who knows how to build good custom boxes or can design your own at a cost on some sites. Its been a while but i did see a couple prefabs on ebay that were claimed 32 htz which isnt bad but not sure as i never got one.
Yeah I'm going to swap for the vxf, I had the next Model down from the EVL and honestly it's a better sub for the 10, yes I know I have to go 12 to move up because they don't make a 10 vxf. I blew up 10's on the 1200.1 mono block but didn't on the lower model. They seem to love lows but if any kick comes in while it's hitting lows it's game over. I sent 6 back and I think they hate me now. I noted the fact I'm blowing them up with the their 1200 watt amp, oscilloscope tuned, no clipping and even factory bass roll off. I normally love sub smell, not those. That smell sticks for days
Sundown and scar audio The parts are manufactured at the same facility You just pay more for one. If it's not Rockford kicker Alpine your just getting generic components that are rebranded under different names.
I’ve owned evl series and I’ve owned sa and many other brands. You couldn’t pay me money to ever buy and evl sub again. They are just garbage and sound like it too. If I had to ever be forced to buy a skar product again on the cheap it would be the ddx. If I had to buy higher end skar product for absolutely no reason at all then the vxf would be it. But I’ll never own skar subs again. There’s far too many better options for the same price but then again going cheap is asking for bad quality.
I break in my subwoofer first before putting in to work. Overall, I ran the EVL 10 single subwoofer with skar RP1200 watt amp.
I had a pair of skar audio evl 12 the first edition.. and now I just acquired another pair of the new ones. One change I noticed right away was the coil. The old one have a copper color coil.. the new ones have that fake high temp black glue. I'm not sure if they're using an aluminum coil now, which would bring the fs higher. I put them in the same box. They slap but the old ones seemed to play the low extension better, we'll see when they break in.
Idk why people hate on them so much but I always had great experiences with skar. I switched over to resilient sounds for the past year or so but am.thunking about going back.
I'm into car and house audio and I have good rebassed music playlist. ✔️ IT OUT 😃👍Also if your into car audio I just did a review on the new 15" NVX VCW v3 1500rms watt subwoofer that's only $219!!🤩
My bro bragged about how good skar was got 2 12s and a amp well first so came broke no biggie. Second amp came and he was Good, was in the process of breaking them in blew both got the replacement broke them he sold everything w with warranty. I'm not saying all skar will do that but a guy with a much system experience as him can break em on a break in twice. Ima have a hard pass on getting them now
@@bigballmagrawl0929 prop due to break in. Lol... Been doing this since 90's full tilt from the start. Blew one pair of subs n I knew they were gonna blow because I was OVER POWERING them. Most not all but MOST blowing subs is USER error. Over powering or Clipping. Break in is just unstiffening the spider, s
From experience they sound terrible and I’ve had all my subs in proper custom built enclosures to take the argument of design out of the equation. But you get what you pay for in the end so you shouldn’t expect too much from them. But out of all the skar series the evl is by far the worst of them. They have so many better options.
The 10 is around 40, the 12 is around 32. I've had issues with the 10's. With a 4.2cu ft box and 4" x 9" port the 10 sounds like the 12
hello, the noise comes from the outer part of the magnetic field where the coil is placed, there you will find an aluminum pipe that is fixed from the bottom of the motor to the top, this helps to eliminate the distortion, it also happens they come off because they are only glued with glue, if you don't understand look at the Fi company and you will see this option 👍
They will get better once you free up the spiders
What is your electrical setup .. You should do a vid
It's called a faraday ring spelling might be wrong but in short an aluminum ring I believe to keep the bl down
Doesnt Dayton Audio DATS give you a way to get the speakers TS params without needing most of the published specs?
Yes
Maybe just me but we're they out of phase? Frame rate on camera seemed to me to show them moving in opposite directions. Nice build, I as well built a 6th order, mine is isobaric tho.
Where did you get that dash kit from??
How do you tune multiple ports per chamber
curious to see what happens me my self not into the big surrounds seems like gives the sub less cone area i like the skinny taller surrounds you can tell the sundown looks to have more cone area oops left the comment half way threw the video guess will see what happens lol
So compared to sundown and skar what was the response like in a 6th order box ? Some laugh at me because I wanted to do a 6th order box for my EVL
People said it was a waste of time for me to do a sixth order for my 1 15" xmaxxx but 148db at 24hz sealed at the headrest and 142db at 19hz at the headrest it half power put an end to the haters
The EVL's play lower a bit better but play the higher range (50hz area) a bit worse. Overall really great sound from the EVL's
Forget the haters lol.
Build Your system fir You !! 💪😎🙏
Personally I like to do a bare minimum of double the port area for the front chamber is I have in the back chamber usually 2.5 ideally what I've prefers 3x the amount of Port area as the rear chamber I prefer the sound of gives
Sundown puts feriday rings in their subs that do come loose from time to time. Spelling is prolly wrong on the feriday ring.
I guess I should read the comments before I post I literally posted the exact same thing lmao
Did you notice a big difference with that box with the mids n highs on music? On top of your door speakers?
Yeah definitely. Problem is it moved the soundstage to the back since those speakers kind of overpower the door speakers
The shorting ring
The skar ddx is a more match to the SA and the ddx will take more power than the evil.
Personal experience. Evl took more power than ddx. I had 12 evl and 12 ddx. Ddx 12's I had on taramps smart 3 and for a month were fine. Switched to smart 5k and both ddx coils unwound. That was not even 2 months. Got a killer deal on 212 Evl. Still have them daily driver no problems for the past almost yr. So I totally disagree.
@@Simpleman1078agree I have 3 EVL18s and they are all amazing subs! Seems like most skar fans hate on the EVL line, but there the most popular selling out of all the skar models
yo you can get your own t/s parameters using REW
Can u Please Define "6th Order Bandpass" ???
I'm having trouble getting the really low stuff out of my vented ,loaded 2 skar svr 8" s ..Maybe I need a better amp than my old pioneer 800 watt?
Tuning frequency. Your box is most likely the problem. Get a custom box tuned to 29 htz roughly. Will see a big difference.
If its a prefab box its most likely tuned to 39 htz roughly. That doesnt allow the low lows to come through. More mid bass.
High fs subs don't get low and skar recommends those tuned at 53hz more of a mid bass than sub
@tattoosbyMrIndio that's surprising with the size of the magnets ,there beefy.Thanks!
@@andyamysarizonaadventures5450 Its your box bro.. if your box came with the subs as a combo then its tuned to 45htz. Which is a bit high if your wanting lows. The svrs will get low.. plenty of vids on yt. Box needs tuned lower is all. Have someone who knows how to build good custom boxes or can design your own at a cost on some sites. Its been a while but i did see a couple prefabs on ebay that were claimed 32 htz which isnt bad but not sure as i never got one.
Scar vxf subs are the best sounding subs they make for Sq and spl
Yeah I'm going to swap for the vxf, I had the next Model down from the EVL and honestly it's a better sub for the 10, yes I know I have to go 12 to move up because they don't make a 10 vxf. I blew up 10's on the 1200.1 mono block but didn't on the lower model. They seem to love lows but if any kick comes in while it's hitting lows it's game over. I sent 6 back and I think they hate me now. I noted the fact I'm blowing them up with the their 1200 watt amp, oscilloscope tuned, no clipping and even factory bass roll off. I normally love sub smell, not those. That smell sticks for days
What's your max spl and at what frequency?
What website were you using to get your sound curve?
It's a program called WinISD
@@DJones777 thank you, was wanting a program to see kinda what my box will do before I build it
Sundown and scar audio The parts are manufactured at the same facility You just pay more for one. If it's not Rockford kicker Alpine your just getting generic components that are rebranded under different names.
🤣 I've owned both, and it's definitely not. skar zvx surround is one layer, sundown is 3 layers
Dumbest take I've heard in a while lmao
@@quinton337 if you’re referring to spiders you’re incorrect. Zvx is 4 layer black nomex.
@elijahdossett3528 no I'm talking surround
@@quinton337 surround doesn’t take hardly any stress as long as your box specs are proper
It is an aluminum shorting ring. Trash it.
Evl is not a direct competitor with the SA, it is the ddx that is😑
My door speakers have bigger magnets😂
I’ve owned evl series and I’ve owned sa and many other brands. You couldn’t pay me money to ever buy and evl sub again. They are just garbage and sound like it too. If I had to ever be forced to buy a skar product again on the cheap it would be the ddx. If I had to buy higher end skar product for absolutely no reason at all then the vxf would be it. But I’ll never own skar subs again. There’s far too many better options for the same price but then again going cheap is asking for bad quality.