They need a lot of power to hit lower notes louder. Also, being higher Q they should really be in a bigger net volume box to really shine in the lows. Being a 12 with a 3” coil but an 166 oz mag I wouldn’t expect this sub to be that loud on low power. The skar svr is an excellent sub for sound quality and low hz bass reproduction. Definitely one of my favorite skar subs besides the vxf…
I also use a 5k precision power black ice amp with big 3 upgrade along with 2 yellow top optima batteries I have gain set to about 23volts and this single evl 12D4 bridged down to 2ohm does indeed make some noise!
Had this set up and it was pretty good but my box got damaged and I put the two woofers and a custom box two cubic foot per woofer tuned at 36 and wow they're about 25% better I don't think the scarbox is that great.
I went with this bass package from skar it makes me happy they sound pretty good in my 09 tahoe. Plenty of bass on the inside of the car not a ton of rattle on the outside I like them now to replace the interior speakers to keep up with them lol.
My boy had one in his Ford edge in a sealed JL wedge box and it would only hit good on low notes, wasn't that loud outside the car but inside that one evil 12 surprisingly loud on anything low lower than 40 Hertz
1 thing u need to watch for is those Allen head bolts on the plastic spider ring when giving these subs around 1500 to 2k rms each the cone will bottom out to far and hit those spider ring bolts and put dimples in ur cone everywhere there's a bolt head on that spider ring and I have to torque those bolts back down snuggly about once every couple months on daily use and I have my evl 12s in the same box as u . 1 thing when I tested box frequency I got 38 htz and I retested many many times never got lower than 37.5 htz most was 38- 38.8 htz.
@@HiFiVector yea 3/4 would been nicer but 5/8 is good enough next time u have a sub pulled out take a L shaped Allen wrench and put on the bolts holding down the spider ring and I bet u anything they will take at least a 1/4 or 1/2 turn to be tight when u check u will be surprised I've had around 10 different evl subs and every single 1 gets un snugged as u play the sub for awhile with alot of power on them just something to keep in mind u have to put a dab of glue across the bolts on the spider ring if u Don't ur gonna have the head of the bolts leaving deep dimple in the cone. I would show u pictures but u can't post pics on youtube.
@@ElevatedVehiclesI’m not entirely sure what the rating is for how much vibration red loctite can put up with… just heat rating lol but I’m sure that would help and wouldn’t hurt to try. i just ordered these two days ago and I’m sure me only putting 2000rms total to them, I won’t have any issues
I did with the single 12d2 sub/box combo and i went a step further and redid tests with and without the pollyfill. Itll get lower and louder inverted without the pollyfill
Legit thinking about pulling the trigger on this set of 12's... I have a single gravity warzone 12 on a 1k amp @ 4ohm. In a 08 tahoe. I need more bass. I have a 2k amp on hand. (Might get another, stronger mono block...) I'm also trying to get a better alternator and lithium battery installed.
@@sorenmay5630 Yep, and they work fine except for the thick headed idiots who want to put 2,000 watts thru a 1,500 watt sub and then want to complain when they can't handle it. If they want 2,000 watts, get a 2,500 watt sub, not the other way around.
@@VerdantStone2 We aren't talking about other brands. We are talking about Skar. If somebody can only afford Skar level stuff, then just spend a tad extra and get the higher wattage sub. If they want 1,000 watts, get the 1,500 sub and put 1,000 through it and never have an issue. Skar subs should be able to handle their specified power no problem though so just matching the RMS power should do fine.
Debating getting these. I just went thru hell buying and returning multiple amps and now speakers too. I plan on keep8ng my current D4S JP33 amp but im frustrated because the only way I can get my soundstream t5 12s to hit like they used to with my old school soundstream picasso 2k is by turning the gain up to the point where I can smell my subs burning, no bueno. Ive been a soundstream guy for years and havent heard much else that hits the lows the same. Ive had soundstream so long that Im super rusty on whats good now. The skars can handle more watts but if they dont hit the lows right, I wont be happy and these restocking fees are killing your boy lol. Any suggestions for super low bass subs that will hit pushing bout 3k? Im also wondering if I get a bass reconstruction eq if that will force lower frequencies or nah?
I wanted (1) Skar EVL 10”dv2 but Skar pro on phone said wouldn’t fit in Skar’s 10”SDR dv2 skar enclosure so then I said I want 10” DDX dv2 he said “ nope same problem” You need to go with 10” SVR dv2 so that’s what ordered and it came yesterday hoping to do swap tonite.#fyi#SkarFamily🔊❤️@HiFiVector
Do you also do Car Stereo reviews? I've seen a Belva BT Car Stereo ($56) claiming 5v at 3 RCA outputs. I've have been researching this BT deck and it seems JVC produces it but takes out all of the extra features.
Hmmm that’s hard to say the u series will hit harder and be louder speaker per speaker but not sure if one would be louder than 2 evil’s. maybe one 15 would be but also depends on the box.
@@HiFiVector thanks for the input. I don’t have to be busting my windows out but I do want to get the best bang for my buck. I think I’ll do the 15 u series or maybe even skar vxf. Donwn4sound seems to have really good prefabs.
Yes I will do a video of that talking about through my experience what the best Subwoofers are for the different types of music and the characteristics keep an eye out for it soon!
I am thinking about getting these subs to put in my 35 hrz tuned 4.6 cube custom GRANITE box and us a RP 3500.1d to power them in a suburban with a 250 amp alternator big three upgrade do you think it will work well?
@@HiFiVector I have done a bit of research so this is the set up Two ddx 12 d4 Skv2 2500.1d amp 255 amp alternator 4.6 cube 35 hrz tuned granite box How do you think this set up would work for sq and spl
There's a guy on TH-cam with an Altima that has two Skar EVL 10s playing lows loud. His name is idestroi1 .Check him out. I also have these 12s and they don't play the lows loud, but I think with a better box they might. Prefab boxes usually aren't that great, but they work.
Prefab boxes usually don’t work well because the specs are way off but this box specs wise is pretty decent. I also tried one in one of my custom boxes and it’s a little better but still the lows are there but with not much authority. Now Same box with a American bass xr same amp and it has mad lows. Also same box with skar SVR had better lows.
@@HiFiVector Good to know. I'm actually going to sell mine. I'll be kinda sad to see them go, lol, but I won't need them anymore. Going to try a whole different setup.
@@freque1257 I have found fs does not Soley dictate how low a subwoofer will go. I have had a few subs with a high fs hit the lows very well. And I have had subs with a low fs and not do anything special on the lows. Even in a proper enclosure. So I tend not to focus on fs. Real word testing is king.
I hear ya, but man I test so many subs and honestly most of them are different than the manufacture specs. Which is frustrating and it does make it hard when you’re researching to purchase.
I did not meter these. I will say when I put these 12” EVL subs in MY custom box they were louder and sounded way better. They box isn’t doing the subs justice.
EVL are not crap at all as with everything in this world, they do have their pros and cons as well as the American base XR’s. The XR’s hit the lows better, and have very good sound quality, but they are not as musically accurate but they are great subwoofers I like them a lot. The XR’s are still pretty good with their transient response and accuracy as far as the EVL it is a very accurate subwoofer with excellent transient response way better than a lot of other subs on the market that I have heard it’s downfall is it doesn’t quite hit the lows as well, and it’s not quite as loud overall but it’s a great sounding musically accurate sub. so it just depends on what you prefer. Can you give up a little bit of accuracy for more volume and better under 33 hz lows? Or would you give up a little bit of the lows and volume for a more musically accurate subwoofer with better transit response?
@@HiFiVectorgreat answer I have 3 EVL18s 2 in my home set up and 1 in my truck..Good subs all around that deserve a better reputation than there given for sure..
They definitely sounded way better in my custom boxes. Also the new skar boxes that are bedlined sound way better than the carpeted older ones like in the video.
They need a lot of power to hit lower notes louder. Also, being higher Q they should really be in a bigger net volume box to really shine in the lows. Being a 12 with a 3” coil but an 166 oz mag I wouldn’t expect this sub to be that loud on low power. The skar svr is an excellent sub for sound quality and low hz bass reproduction. Definitely one of my favorite skar subs besides the vxf…
I also use a 5k precision power black ice amp with big 3 upgrade along with 2 yellow top optima batteries I have gain set to about 23volts and this single evl 12D4 bridged down to 2ohm does indeed make some noise!
Had this set up and it was pretty good but my box got damaged and I put the two woofers and a custom box two cubic foot per woofer tuned at 36 and wow they're about 25% better I don't think the scarbox is that great.
I went with this bass package from skar it makes me happy they sound pretty good in my 09 tahoe. Plenty of bass on the inside of the car not a ton of rattle on the outside I like them now to replace the interior speakers to keep up with them lol.
My boy had one in his Ford edge in a sealed JL wedge box and it would only hit good on low notes, wasn't that loud outside the car but inside that one evil 12 surprisingly loud on anything low lower than 40 Hertz
1 thing u need to watch for is those Allen head bolts on the plastic spider ring when giving these subs around 1500 to 2k rms each the cone will bottom out to far and hit those spider ring bolts and put dimples in ur cone everywhere there's a bolt head on that spider ring and I have to torque those bolts back down snuggly about once every couple months on daily use and I have my evl 12s in the same box as u . 1 thing when I tested box frequency I got 38 htz and I retested many many times never got lower than 37.5 htz most was 38- 38.8 htz.
And I tested my box running after I broke the subs in
It’s to bad they didn’t use 3/4” these subs flex a lot and are heavy. Other than that it’s a nice box.
@@HiFiVector yea 3/4 would been nicer but 5/8 is good enough next time u have a sub pulled out take a L shaped Allen wrench and put on the bolts holding down the spider ring and I bet u anything they will take at least a 1/4 or 1/2 turn to be tight when u check u will be surprised I've had around 10 different evl subs and every single 1 gets un snugged as u play the sub for awhile with alot of power on them just something to keep in mind u have to put a dab of glue across the bolts on the spider ring if u Don't ur gonna have the head of the bolts leaving deep dimple in the cone. I would show u pictures but u can't post pics on youtube.
@@joshholden8561 I wonder if some red loctite would do the trick?
@@ElevatedVehiclesI’m not entirely sure what the rating is for how much vibration red loctite can put up with… just heat rating lol but I’m sure that would help and wouldn’t hurt to try. i just ordered these two days ago and I’m sure me only putting 2000rms total to them, I won’t have any issues
Thank you so much for your opinion. I plan to keep my same setup!
Thanks for the video bro!!💪🏾
What is u tested them both ways, inverted and normal to see how big of a difference there is??
I did with the single 12d2 sub/box combo and i went a step further and redid tests with and without the pollyfill. Itll get lower and louder inverted without the pollyfill
Nice!! I'm dying to see someone do a vid on harmony audio monoliths,their nasty!
I had the 18 and I blew it
Upgrading from the Skar SDRs…think American bass elites lows would play better?
Legit thinking about pulling the trigger on this set of 12's... I have a single gravity warzone 12 on a 1k amp @ 4ohm. In a 08 tahoe. I need more bass. I have a 2k amp on hand. (Might get another, stronger mono block...)
I'm also trying to get a better alternator and lithium battery installed.
Good honest opinion
It's Skar... they are lower priced for a reason. They are a great budget option.
Spot on basically made to get more people into car audio
@@sorenmay5630 Yep, and they work fine except for the thick headed idiots who want to put 2,000 watts thru a 1,500 watt sub and then want to complain when they can't handle it. If they want 2,000 watts, get a 2,500 watt sub, not the other way around.
@@marcuslinton310 the only way around that is to get a better quality brand that has all of their subs underrated
@@VerdantStone2 We aren't talking about other brands. We are talking about Skar. If somebody can only afford Skar level stuff, then just spend a tad extra and get the higher wattage sub. If they want 1,000 watts, get the 1,500 sub and put 1,000 through it and never have an issue. Skar subs should be able to handle their specified power no problem though so just matching the RMS power should do fine.
$569.49+ tax for an Evl powered enclosure isn't budget or a low price😂. It's more affordable compared to some overpriced kicker subwoofers💯
What size gauge wiring did they put in your box? 12 gauge? Hard to tell in the video
I believe skar used 12 gauge in this particular box.
@@HiFiVector bummer. And I doubt it's OFC which means we should all take the subs out & upgrade to 10 gauge OFC in there 😞
@@ElevatedVehicles 12 gauge is way more then enough, especially for the short runs inside the box.
Wait for them to break in. What are they wired ohm wise?
Debating getting these. I just went thru hell buying and returning multiple amps and now speakers too. I plan on keep8ng my current D4S JP33 amp but im frustrated because the only way I can get my soundstream t5 12s to hit like they used to with my old school soundstream picasso 2k is by turning the gain up to the point where I can smell my subs burning, no bueno. Ive been a soundstream guy for years and havent heard much else that hits the lows the same. Ive had soundstream so long that Im super rusty on whats good now. The skars can handle more watts but if they dont hit the lows right, I wont be happy and these restocking fees are killing your boy lol. Any suggestions for super low bass subs that will hit pushing bout 3k? Im also wondering if I get a bass reconstruction eq if that will force lower frequencies or nah?
how does this compare to stinger??? in 2023 what box is the box to get in 12"?
I wanted (1) Skar EVL 10”dv2 but Skar pro on phone said wouldn’t fit in Skar’s 10”SDR dv2 skar enclosure so then I said I want 10” DDX dv2 he said “ nope same problem” You need to go with 10” SVR dv2 so that’s what ordered and it came yesterday hoping to do swap tonite.#fyi#SkarFamily🔊❤️@HiFiVector
Do you also do Car Stereo reviews? I've seen a Belva BT Car Stereo ($56) claiming 5v at 3 RCA outputs. I've have been researching this BT deck and it seems JVC produces it but takes out all of the extra features.
Currently I am not doing head units
Do you think I’d get louder with these two evl 12s or one sundown u series 12 or 15 on a 3k rms taramps in a down 4 sound enclosure ???
Hmmm that’s hard to say the u series will hit harder and be louder speaker per speaker but not sure if one would be louder than 2 evil’s. maybe one 15 would be but also depends on the box.
@@HiFiVector thanks for the input. I don’t have to be busting my windows out but I do want to get the best bang for my buck. I think I’ll do the 15 u series or maybe even skar vxf. Donwn4sound seems to have really good prefabs.
Can you invert the evl subs in that exact box without surround rubbing??????
Not sure sorry
Good question ❓ need the answer ?
What 10s would you recommend and box for a f150 crewcab
do you think they should’ve used 3/4 inch?
Do you like the sound better than the American Bass subs from last video?
Yea I prefer the AB XR subs
@@HiFiVector I have a single XR in my vehicle now and I'm pretty impressed by it. Box is tuned to 35hz.
Just enjoy dam
Hey so these or audio legion witch sound best
They are nearly identical but the legion has a bigger motor and so it’s a little tighter /punchier. But very similar sound.
I just ordered 2 of these to replace my 12 inch compq did I just waste my money or will these hit harder than the comp q I have now 1800.1 kicker amp
Compq has 850 rms evl has 1250
I’m. My opinion they sound and perform better. You should be happy with them.
3/4" better, of course. I'm guessing it would make it too heavy to ship (cost-effectively)
Can you eventually do a top 5 best 12 Inch sub? Even could separate it by price then overall. Thanks.
Yes I will do a video of that talking about through my experience what the best Subwoofers are for the different types of music and the characteristics keep an eye out for it soon!
Try a commando audio subwoofer they made in the Dominican Republic 🇩🇴. I heard they are good.
I am thinking about getting these subs to put in my 35 hrz tuned 4.6 cube custom GRANITE box and us a RP 3500.1d to power them in a suburban with a 250 amp alternator big three upgrade do you think it will work well?
Yes that would be a great setup
@@HiFiVector I have done a bit of research so this is the set up
Two ddx 12 d4
Skv2 2500.1d amp
255 amp alternator
4.6 cube 35 hrz tuned granite box
How do you think this set up would work for sq and spl
I listen to a lot of tool and avenged sevenfold metal and rock rap is mostly Tom McDonald and 90s rap
DDX are loud but don’t sound great they are more of a loud burp sub in my opinion. I would go with EVL or VXF for SQL.
@@HiFiVector will the skv2 2500 power 2 evl 12 d4 good for sound quality?
There's a guy on TH-cam with an Altima that has two Skar EVL 10s playing lows loud. His name is idestroi1 .Check him out. I also have these 12s and they don't play the lows loud, but I think with a better box they might. Prefab boxes usually aren't that great, but they work.
Prefab boxes usually don’t work well because the specs are way off but this box specs wise is pretty decent. I also tried one in one of my custom boxes and it’s a little better but still the lows are there but with not much authority. Now Same box with a American bass xr same amp and it has mad lows. Also same box with skar SVR had better lows.
@@HiFiVector Good to know. I'm actually going to sell mine. I'll be kinda sad to see them go, lol, but I won't need them anymore. Going to try a whole different setup.
Yeah they’re really good subs it’s just every sub is different.
Hi:) What is your opinion about Skar EVL 15" 4D ?
It’s a great sounding sub
@@HiFiVector Thanks for your answer:) It's a 1250 W RMS 4 Ohm sub. What type of Amp I should use for it?
What 12” sub would you recommend for rock and metal music other then these?
Soundstream R3 10" or 12" , Rockville K6 10" or 12" , Savard HiQ 8", HIfonics BRW 10", JL audio nice too but expensive.
Gotcha, Ok do you have any experience with the Rockville are they pretty durable?
Yes I have installed many and they hold up well. Also audio legion Maximus and gladiators are nice if you can find them 10” and 12”.
Ok thank you for your input!!!
I use have these and listen to thrash death etc, they're good, with epicenter is also great
Can you please just power acoustik type s 12. 2.mofo😊
Do you break them in before ts parameters?
It depends on if I am able to or not but these were fully broken in.
@@HiFiVector im shocked how high the fs was
@@freque1257 I have found fs does not Soley dictate how low a subwoofer will go. I have had a few subs with a high fs hit the lows very well. And I have had subs with a low fs and not do anything special on the lows. Even in a proper enclosure. So I tend not to focus on fs. Real word testing is king.
@@HiFiVector But if skar says the FS is 32.2 and its totally not thats an issue to me
I hear ya, but man I test so many subs and honestly most of them are different than the manufacture specs. Which is frustrating and it does make it hard when you’re researching to purchase.
Deep hard hitting bass, $200 per sub or less
That was question
Did you meter them?
I did not meter these. I will say when I put these 12” EVL subs in MY custom box they were louder and sounded way better. They box isn’t doing the subs justice.
I built box to vxf specs and it hits way harder!
Just got mine in today I’ll judge them myself i
E V L bro not evils good video
Word homie yea I know
How many watt amp do it needs? Any one know?
I would say 2000 to 3000 watts
@@HiFiVector i have a skar 5000 watt. How much power amp I need ?
I heard Evls are crap. Is American bass subs better?
EVL are not crap at all as with everything in this world, they do have their pros and cons as well as the American base XR’s. The XR’s hit the lows better, and have very good sound quality, but they are not as musically accurate but they are great subwoofers I like them a lot. The XR’s are still pretty good with their transient response and accuracy as far as the EVL it is a very accurate subwoofer with excellent transient response way better than a lot of other subs on the market that I have heard it’s downfall is it doesn’t quite hit the lows as well, and it’s not quite as loud overall but it’s a great sounding musically accurate sub. so it just depends on what you prefer. Can you give up a little bit of accuracy for more volume and better under 33 hz lows? Or would you give up a little bit of the lows and volume for a more musically accurate subwoofer with better transit response?
@@HiFiVectorgreat answer I have 3 EVL18s 2 in my home set up and 1 in my truck..Good subs all around that deserve a better reputation than there given for sure..
My box reads.5 ohm supposed to be 1 ohm
Not sure maybe your meter is off? Unless they are dual 2 ohm wired wrong. These should come dual 4 ohm.
Your not gonna hit those lows in a prefab
They definitely sounded way better in my custom boxes. Also the new skar boxes that are bedlined sound way better than the carpeted older ones like in the video.
My evls hit harder then that
They are great subs
They blow I'm not a fan