Ford Trans Troubles - Dragging in Low and Reverse - 4R70W
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- This 2008 Ford F-150 is dragging in low and reverse gear with a whining sound in neutral. It has a P0731 code. Let's see if we can fix this 4R70 transmission.
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Having spent a solid 4.5 hours yesterday replacing the radiator in my wife's Toyota/Scion, you telling me the Ford took 8 minutes is making me rethink my life choices 😉
Anyone remember replacing a radiator in 45 mins.
1. Remove upper/lower radiator hoses.
2. Remove two trans cooler lines.
3. Remove heater return hose.
4. Fan shroud
5. Two metal hold down brackets.
6. Pull and install new one and done. 45 mims.
I'm sure by now, the engineer who designed the radiator in that Ford has been sacked for making it that essy
@@johnclamshellsp1969 I can name that tune in 40 minutes!
77 Chevy pickup/stick ! No transmission lines!!!!
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I could swap a timing belt in 45 minutes on my old Ranger. 2.3 manual without A/C.
Base model v8 pickups and vans are still not bad.
True but when's the next time your gonna have to do any work on that Toyota vs the Ford bet you will win out in the long run. 😂
Dearth is a scarcity. Plethora is probably a better word. Love your channel
Surfeit is a good fancy word for it too.
'A bunch' would work just fine too
I’m going to have to go with ‘grundle’.
If it’s REALLY a lot, that would be a ‘metric as*-ton’.
Would you say he had a plethora of GMs?
@@Zupdood2 I thought grundle was the layman's term for the perineum?
Have been a Shade Tree Mechanic all my life. It's fun to watch a Pro work, and it humbles me to see how much you know and all the tricks you've learned along the way.. I really enjoy this channel Wes, and having grown up in Illinois in the corn belt I appreciate those time outs to watch a harvest in progress. You do a very nice job and you keep an old man entertained. Thank you.
UK. As soon as I read 'old man' I thought kindred spirit. Vehicle in the shop and design all my working life. No regrets - except when it had to end. Regards.
@@jp-um2fr I'm with you my friend. Just turned 79 and I still try to do the routine maintenance like oil and grease and maybe a headlight, but this old machine gets tired in about an hour or two.
He’s good no doubt but I’m more impressed by us shadetree mechanics that do some of the exact same jobs he does but we don’t have the fancy tools. We improvise with what we got. But I pretty much always learn something from Wes. He’s straight up good.
@@Robrt32 Yep. It always helps to start out with a Dad that has a shop and a lot of know how, but I'm still amazed by some of the hopeless causes he tackles. My dad wasn't interested in mechanics, so I did all the hard way. Wouldn't trade a minute of it though.
@@jimbos1567 yea my dad was only interested in a whiskey bottle and the nearest bar. I learned the hard way also.
thats a good transmission guy when he asks for the radiator to clean it out too
Great video , Wes !
I really like how your transmission guy told you to take out the radiator so he can flush the trans cooler , I know alot of people that have had their transmissions fixed or replaced and nobody ever flushed out the cooler and ended up with another burnt up transmission due to that .
It's really cool to hear people actually care enough to make sure a customer gets the job done right the first time.
Id like to add to that statement of keeping the customer happy the first time and say that not only is that true but it goes even deeper than that. He is doing this not only to make them happy but to KEEP them happy. Meaning they won't have a comeback they have to fix and eat the cost of the repair for free due to a half done job. Do it the first time so there won't be a next time!
Always flush the whole system when replacing transmission's it's a no brainer I think
Imagine a video with Wes, looking through the window at the road and commenting what's going on for two hours. I would watch it! :)
Your transmission guy is one of the good ones. I was thinking, "What about the transmission cooler circuit?" But he was on top of it. You'd be surprised how many guys forget something simple like that.
Also he installed some kind of upgrade kit going by Wes reading out the invoice
@@alouisschafer7212 yep, that's the way to do it while you're in there.
Anything to do with auto transmissions is still all black magic to me. I sort of get it... almost. But I still don't 100% understand them and probably never will. Anyone that works on them is up there with brain surgeons as far I'm concerned.
Thats a pretty neat tool if it actually works well. I resort to replacing the cooler or putting an inline filter in if they are pooched.
@@MattExzysame boat. I understand that idea but once I see the all the fluid channels and check balls I’m lost
Another Great Video, Wes. I wonder if that was a rare failure or something that the transmission shop sees on a regular basis? When they install upgraded parts or updates, I wonder. It seems like newer transmission problems are more electronic issues than mechanical issues. Thanks for making the point about the Torque Converter installation and flushing all the cooler lines. Really Appreciate your attention to detail and commentary. 👍🏻👍🏻
Rare with that low of miles.
My guess is towing a trailer that is to heavy.
Those 4R70's are solid transmissions.👍
That transmission had never been serviced before. The yellow plastic plug in the pan is the assembly line dust cap. When the dipstick is installed on the assembly line, the plug gets pushed into the pan. It is to be discarded at the first filter change.
Fords recommended service intervals are too much. Needs fluid changes sooner than what they say for longevity
@@kd7cwg 30k at most 100/150k is nutz!
Sounds like you're still feeling below the weather. Hopefully it will pass soon. Thanks for the content - always a great addition to a day.
Yeah, still seems a bit Foggy... but still soldiered through.
I hear you, Wes. If any of my own transmission work goes beyond the valve body assembly, solenoids, conductor plate, etc, that's where I draw the line.
In the past I had taken a plumbing night coarse. The best lesson was when to hand off the problem to an expert. Good call. It is frustrating when engineers design vehicles that do not allow for easy maintenance / repair. I guess its the price of progress. Great video as always.
Figure that a lot of the testing phase gearboxes (like pre-production stuff) have exterior accessible solenoids and most of the non critical stuff is operable from the outside. :) don't you just love that kind of shit?
14:25 holy cow that is the best looking prehistoric native American rock art I have ever seen!
always a good day when wes posts a new video. seems like i always go and binge watch all his other vids after too!
Hi Wes , all your uploads are great to watch, do not ever think otherwise. From Nr Liverpool UK.
briliant work as always wes and very entertaning!
Very informative.
Thanks, Wes, and have a great week!
I like it when u don't give up, u r great at what u do. keep the clips coming
Thanks for posting Wes
This is just a video I needed after a hurricane
Ahh, from one Wes to another, thanks as always for the videos! Guess the dump run is gonna happen an hour later today.
Nice work Wes , love your videos …
Hi Wes excellent video for trans learning a lot always enjoying your work in detail so I understand and as always you and your families be safe 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Thanks Wes for sharing the video. it was interesting to see all the metal in the pan . Like you I let the transmission guys tear them down and go though them . Thanks again for sharing and have a great day.
Thanks for sharing with us. You know what battles to pick to fight!
Thorough and pragmatic that make a wise mechanic, great job Wes
Nice work with the repairs Wes 🙂👍
Thanks for another great video sir, really appreciate your channel.
Nice to see that you do get to work on some cars that haven't dissolved too much! Thanks for the video.
The ol’ transmission two step! Great as always Wes, thank you.
Wes the best part is we both learn here!
We learn what needs to be done!
We learn when its better to just send it out!
Thanks for sharing!
Wess beside you being an amazing mechanic your a great content creator!! Thanks for sharing
I love watching Wes work even though I don't know much about cars. I am intrigued with your problem solving skills.
You do nice work Wes, your customers are lucky to have you and *Thank You* for the video. As always it is greatly appreciated. 👍👍
As usual, excellent job
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4R70W or 4R75E (W) are some of the easiest 4 speeds to rebuild and understand. (Same for GM 4L60E and 80E) Wes, you would not be in over your head to tackle it. Also, if anyone else drives one of these, I highly recommend the J mod. It's cheap to do and really improves the slushiness of these with their soft factory calibrations. Ford did a lot of the changes involved towards the end of production of them.
Sounds like a sonnax HD valve body was put in it. So j-mod really is not an option to mingle parts.
And then an otherwise fine transmission went away because of "progress"
I have one and can't tell for sure if it's had a jmod or not. At light throttle I wouldn't say it shifts hard, but it seems to shift quicker than most panthers. But if I mat it, it'll bark the tires on the 1-2 shift.
Dave, the problem for many of us small shops is not the lack of knowledge or the ability to understand transmissions, it's not being able to justify to the cost of the tools and equipment to service them. As a "general repair shop" we might see two to three transmission rebuilds a year. Not worth the space and money to set up for that.
@@humbleservices6418 Exactly. I got into transmissions as an interesting hobby. The worst thing about transmissions is 1 little screwup and its coming back out again and apart. Not worth the hassle for a small shop.
Nothing like a "October Blue Bird Day" ! Thanks for sharing Wes.
Well done, Wes. Repair and video.
Good job as usual. Keep up the good work. And remember having work is better than not having work.
I love the sidewalk chalk art by your son! Thanks for including that!
Thanks for the ride along sir, they sure can pack a whole bunch of “STUFF” in a small area, enjoyed the video.
Always finding the solution like a Pro!
Appreciate ya Wes! Hoping you are feeling better by the time you posted this. You sounded pretty rough. I noticed you wore Carhartt gear. I used to as well until I found Duluth Trading gear. It costs a tad more but it is well worth it.
Now that's some of the best transmission wrangling I have ever seen. Great vid
#1 Maintenance Technician at it again. Thorough as usual, you have a blessed day Wes. Aloha from Kansas.
Nice work Wes, the mark of a true professional is knowing your limits and not being afraid to admit it. Cheers Stuart 🇦🇺
As always bro a great viewing video. Safe travels
Always entertaining Wes.
i wish to see more of these - automatics remain a mystery to me, and I appreciate that you tap out on these quickly, too! :) Great video, keep em coming!
Hi Wes another job well done. I gotta tell you that is the slickest trans jack I have ever seen!! I laughed when you said sketchy time when pulling the trans, sketchy time is when your using a regular floor jack with misc pieces of scrap wood LOL 😂
Another great video Wes 👍👌
Another great job! Keep up the good work!
Good job on sneaking out the transmission, that truck is in good shape considering.
another nice one. get on that cycle now and have a nice early fall ride!
Always an engaging tale with you!
Sweet, some 4R7x action. Got a couple units on my bench to build and one in me car. I have a knackering for them and love building them.
Your a legend Wes my favourite TH-camr
Busted knuckle, cuts and scrapes. ALL for content. thank you stay safe
Thats why I love manual transmissions. Good job Wes
So far, an awesome Sunday.
First off a Mustie1 vid popped up then a Watch Wes Work.
Wes is always fascinating with the way he figures out WTF is wrong and he admits his limitations.
Who's next I wonder.
Fun to hear your weather report.
Snow is so close up here.
Good to hear farming report.
Good note was most common carry out transmission failure was
Pump failure.
Love learning what you work on...I am a bee person...we have a Dearth during Aug/Sept when there is little pollen and nectar for bees to work ......in others words not anything around....you da man Wess
Great job love watching your videos.
I would not have thought that the trans cooler fittings would have been loose. I drive a stick. LoL 😂. That and the dam starter is the only snag. Great show Wes as always. Take care and put a nother log 🪵 on the fire 🔥. Winter coming.
Another fun adventure! Also, I had to go back to the start of the video when you had your head turned to make sure your hat said "DieHard". In the outro it looked to me like it may have been a parody "pieHard " hat, lol!
Good work Wes don’t know why max wasn’t impressed lol lack of mice maybe 😂😂take care and all the best to the family 🔧🔧🔧👍👌
Great diagnosis and refit, good call on flushing transmission cooler by your transmission specialist 👍.
Definitely a black art in any vehicle gearbox to me each to his or her own.
Great job and photography Wes, thanks for sharing
Nothing more to say but Thanks for the video Wes. I can't add any more Kudos.
How appropriate it is that I had to watch a Chevy pickup commercial before watching this video. Lol!
Hey I enjoyed watching your video, I wrench on all my vehicles and motorcycles and boats.Knowing how some Jobs go you are a true good mechanic and if it ever came to a point where I couldn't do it anymore I would not hesitate to bring it to u.
noticed that you are over 200K..may more to come for your channel..and your beard looks great too..
Ayy up Wes,Another good one,the F150 was a good one for you “no rust” stay safe see you next vlog 😊😊😊😊
Never know until you get into the meat of things. Thanks for sharing.
I'm quite impressed you didn't know how to work on it and you did it anyway I think that is awesome A lot of people would not try but but you did and it was successful
Thanks Wes for the video take care.
The answer is always three, just ask the Owl.... :) I looked at the title in the thumbnail and laughed as this means something so totally different today than it did 20 years ago.
You are to self disparaging my brother. You have the knack man, that allows you to diagnose, repair and make right a plethora of mechanical contrivances, you are actually one of the better mechanics I have had the privilege to watch in my career.
Kicking the tripod aside you make great videos and I appreciate the time in conceptualization, editing and ULing that these take... thanks man for the ride along.
Ive done one of these transmissions before,it definitely is a lot easier on a lift and in a shop than outside in my backyard
When I first saw the chalk drawings on the ground, thought "What kind of animal massacre went down?".
Man...you made the removal/installation of that transmission look easy! I'm pretty sure I would've had to pull out some of my former Navy vocabulary to complete that job. 😀
The swaybar removal was pretty slick - I hate dealing exhaust crossovers (or exhaust systems, in general).
Thar was interesting. I have a 2006 Ford Explorer XLT. The starter has snout on starter. The 06 is very hard to replace. Glad to see your back to your normal. Thank you for sharing.
This brought back memories, I was a tow truck fleet mechanic for 16 years back in the 70s and 80s. I pulled many transmissions then but they were manual. I feel the pain the struggle is real.
Always informative.
I'm new here just found your channel and I've really enjoyed watching it I'm a Retired heavy equipment mechanic and I like the way you do the job yeah I watched you put that clutch in that little tractor and those two splins can make a preacher cuss patience is the key to mechanic work I'm old school back before technology and I'm in Georgia don't have to worry about so much rust.
Thanks for the floor art! You’re doing quite well in your second career. 😂😂
👍👍😎✌️🤟 A job well done. Nice to see your smiling face, Wes.
Great work Wes! 🖖👍👊😊
This job must of made you feel good. A nice straight forward job. I wish cars were still made this way! Hope you are feeling better. They are picking beans here in Sandwich land. Thanks for the video. Have a great weekend!
They're picking everything here, but it's pretty wet.
Good one! We all learned something, eh? Keep doing what you do!
Nice job Wes that looked pretty easy!
The mark of a genius
Interesting content. Thanks for posting.
Back in the 80's I had a '72 Ford Gran Torino Sport that had a C6 automatic transmission. In a moment of haste, while still moving forward, I jammed the transmission into "park". It produced a fairly loud "bang" and the car immediately stopped. I was worried that I had damaged the transmission, yet after that incident, the transmission continued to function with no problems. A testament to the durability and construction quality of those old C6 trannys.
Wes, There is no voodoo magic going on inside an automatic trans. Take it apart, clean, install new frictions, steels, bushings, seals, orings, apply pistons, and any broken hard parts...charge $2k...easy peasy. You're a far more advanced mechanic than I am and I've rebuilt 4 automatic trans with no problem. IMO it's harder to R&R a transmission than it is to rebuild them.
…. Customer Diagnosis…. That must move the decimal point one place to the right😅. Great channel - keep up the great work.
Thanks for showing us the glitter of sadness.
FYI, dearth means scarcity. Love your videos.
Excellent again, Wes. I am certain and I think I must bring to your attention, that the Goldwing you see every single day for several hours for the last two months has a flat tyre you haven't noticed...
You're a braver man than some of the mechanics I've dealt with in my lifetime. All the symptoms you had today remind me of something with my old Toyota Land Cruiser. Took her to several mechanics, and they were all sure they couldn't find the problem, and that something would have to "break" before they could properly diagnose. Finally had to say goodbye to her, because I couldn't trust her to do the km's I was doing at the time, and the last thing I needed was to break down in the middle of nowhere. Wish I had taken her to a transmission shop.
I think you stole the thunder of most viewers when you mentioned not having to take to it with a gas axe - for the miles, she was in pretty good condition underneath.
Thanks Wes! I've learned so much from you, so here goes. Dearth, noun, a scarcity or lack of something.
i.e. "there is a dearth of broken Fords lately" (yeah right). Thanks for the videos!
plethora: multiples of. ha ha
Opposite of dearth - I would have said "excess".
Good trans shop to suggest flushing the cooler. I rode in the 40s to even the 30s in Illinois if the sun was out. Still riding the Panhead bobber at age 72 but now in the mountains by Prescott.
I was almost fully recovered from rebuilding my 68rfe transmission myself. Watching this brought back some bad memories. Had to make another appointment with my therapist.