@@johndowe7003tie rods sure make it interesting especially when the shock mounts rust off or the shock bolt wears off the upper shock bushings lol but none of that keeps the gm trucks from being driven and worked hard lol
When out walking and without looking, I can always tell a Ford by the power steering pump whine. I'm long retired as a mechanic but seeing a Ford on our lot when I got to work meant my day was already going downhill. The worst ones were the Dustbuster (Aerostar) or the most loathsome, the Windbag. You can guess the model. Love your channel Wes and full marks for your efforts and commitment to quality work. You are a credit to the profession.
Never understood why Ford felt the need to make several different weird looking minivans in the 90s. The few that are still on the road are in a sad way.
I worked for a rebuilder in "The 80's" who got his start thanks to the Ford power steering pumps. Pure junk. He designed his own competents to replace the original crappy design. If Ford had a better idea, they never told anyone about it.
Bad case of “ford door” with the rocker delete package, upgraded seats, finger prybar headlight actuation, free floating exhaust, 4x2 with a snow plow attachment! Absolutely MINT! BTW, the power steering problem at 4:40 is an easy fix, the belt is on backwards 🤣
Those “drain pans” are sold at feed stores. Made for feeding calves or horses. Nice because you can set them out and not worry about them getting stepped on.
I was going to say the same thing. It should work for motor oil as well. If I recall, hog farmers like these in particular as the root under them when they become empty.
@@Farm_fab Yup. Basically just a pan that’s pretty indestructible. Also heavy so they don’t blow away. They come in some bigger sizes as well. We have a big one on the back porch for dog water. Used to have a plastic bucket but my wife’s Golden Retriever puppy kept tipping it over and carrying it away so we got one of these big rubber ones. Now instead of tipping it over she’s getting in it and playing in the water.
Sold by napa not a sponsor, lol! Great shoutout to Eric O. I think both of you guys are a national treasure. Keep up the great video’s I’m a fan for life.
@@WatchWesWork 2002 s.duty, 4,2tdi. brazilian,. not sold in u.s. i had noisy p/s, so filled, sucked it out, about 4lt.. didnt get all of it. id say original from 2002. done 174 th k,s. turning the p/s pump, brilliant idea.. [ dont tell anyone,,ssshhhhh..]
"How do you turn the lights on? Oh you just gotta be a man." I spit my coffee all over my monitor and desk. I also coughed for 10 minutes. OMG! The BEST line on YT by far! GREAT VIDEO!
We had those same rubber pans in the military to catch leaks on our vehicles while parked. I never saw one break or tear and we definitely weren't easy on them. Most were run over on a weekly basis and still performed well for years until eventually they would be lost or left somewhere.
I agree they were awesome. Especially the massive ones for working on strykers. But I have seen one or 2 of them tear before. Rare though. Wish I had some for home
I have to say as a mechanic and also the Scottish version of a “state inspector of vehicles” I always laugh my bollocks off watching these videos. I don’t know if you know what’s involved in a uk “inspection” known as an “MOT” but I can honestly say after watching you for years on TH-cam that maybe 2 or 3 of your customers cars would pass an inspection over here. Basically al the cars I see you fixing would have been scrapped over here 10-20 years ago lol. A pinhole in in metal here is a weld job or no sticker. We probably scrap far better cars here than what’s on the road over there. Anyways it’s always a pleasure watching your videos and your work. Love the channel 👍
I’d say you’re being generous at 2 out of 3. Over here in Finland our inspection would fail any car with frame rot, or significant floor rot, and they take a prybar and give the underside a good whacking while inspecting. Same with brakes, every car goes on a brake testing setup, essentially a dyno operating in reverse. It’s also like the MOT in the regard that every car no matter the size gets inspected, newer cars nowadays don’t need it every year, and museum registered ones are every other year, and motorcycle are luckily exempt, I guess the reasoning is that a faulty motorcycle is most likely to just kill the operator.
Luckily here in Alberta, Canada if you know a good mechanic you can have anything you like pass inspection. I've had more than one vehicle pass inspection without the mechanic even viewing it. That's the way it should be.
My best advice to all viewers is when your having a bad wait till Saturday morning watch a WWW video and all your troubles will vanish. Thanks for the high quality entertainment, now I must start my work day.
When flushing a power steering system equipped with hydro boost. Make sure to pump the brakes with the engine off to discharge the hydro boost. Then suck all the old fluid out of the reservoir. Lube Guard makes a really good power steering additive. ATF+4 and Lube Guard goes in all my hydroboost applications. Even in -20 weather they all operate smooth without the typical cold weather stiffness and noise.
you also need to lift the front end of the floor and turn the steering wheel side to side with the engine off to bleed the air out of the system and the pump will not be noisy
@@xXJoeChevyXx Agree. Some systems just like to be a pain. I do typically get the front end off the ground and cycle it as you said. Usually don't have any issues. Every now and then one just doesn't want to cooperate. End up letting them sit 30-45 minutes then cycle the wheel, check the reservoir, then start it up.
I know this speaks of ancient times but I bought a brand new 1976 3/4 ton Ford Explorer off the truck . Among other headaches Ford had to replace the power steering pump every month for 10 consecutive months . I voiced my concern to Ford about not wanting to have to replace pumps monthly at my expense after warranty expired . The dealer had a factory rep address the cause . The factory rep after investigating told me that the only pump that would hold up would be a $300 plus Lincoln Mark iv pump that I would have to pay for . Ford would only pay for ome pump till warranty expired . There were so many like issues that I finally traded it off . Enjoyed video , God bless .
I have three late 90's Fords with 460's. Two have never had the power steering pumps replaced the third I replaced at 200k. Tried 2 carquest rebuilds, both made noise and didn't work, tried an ac Delco rebuild, made it six months, finally bought a rebuilt motorcraft, no noise and hasn't missed a beat in over 5 years. Also in 1997 Ford made a f250 with the f150 body and they made an f250 heavy duty with the old style body. Thanks for the videos Wes.
Ford has had power steering pump problems since the mid 70s. I don't understand why Ford hasn't been able to supply a reliable pump for nearly 50 years. They have used Saginaw pumps and steering sectors on some vehicles and they work well but they use the pump hat they've had so many problems with on the majority of their vehicles.
Great videos Wes! Morske says you need to move to Oklahoma or Texas work on some rust free vehicles should be a whole new world! Thanks for having us! Bullet Bob from Texas!🤠🤠🤠👍👍👍
When I started doing furniture removals in the late 80's my boss had two ford d series, one a 6.5 tonne and the other a 7.5t - which had a 1400 cu/ft pantech body with cab over luton or grannys attic and the "power steering" in them was the diameter of the steering wheel. 3 point turns took two of us on the wheel sometimes!
They sell those rubber pans at nearly every feed store in my area. So if anybody is looking for one… check your local feed stores. Support your local community vs Amazon. Lol
Ford made an F-250 light duty that was set up like that. After they got rid of the light duty they made an F-150 7700 package which was the light duty in different clothing. I had an 03 with the 7700 package, It had an f-250 rear end, trans, beefed up brakes, and they did have 7 lug wheels.
I did get some real nice semi loaded calipers for my 2010 Camry, real nice quality and at a steal of a price, Not a sponser. But I'll use them more often when I buy online.
I did the steering box on my duramax recently and made the made the MAJOR mistake of letting it suck a little air... And good god! I paid for that one! A couple hundred lock to locks later... You tha Man Wes!
ford, 4 turns your good. duramax,[ isuzu], when will chev ever make there own engines..the 6.5td was a disaster. 1950,s buik petrol engine. fords 70,s v6, in the capri, weighs more than a 298, because it was meant as a diesel. but re made as a petrol. same as chev but different.. 2 engines id love to have, lly/lbz duramax, & a 460 ci . better design than the 454... here in aus, if you had 2000 late model LS engines, be sold in a day..
@@harrywalker5836 I don't think it has anything to do with manufacturer. You suck air into anything with hydro boost and 4 turns ain't gonna cut it. I've owned every Power Stroke except for the 6.7 and an LBZ and I'll take my LMM (with DPF & EGR del) over all of them with only the 7.3 coming close to making me think about.
That rubber "drain pan" is a livestock feed pan that you can find at any farm store! When we had horses, we would pour their sweet feed in those, and they would promptly bite them, and dump the feed out in the dirt, so they ended up in the garage as drain pans!
Dang you're lucky Wes. If that was me I'd have gone to get a replacement replacement pump and they'd have been out of stock. And the next shipment would be sitting in the Wang Chung province waiting for the next available boat Expect delivery sometime in August...
The Ford 1998/9 F250 fiasco has been a nightmare for me (as a '99 F250SD PowerStroke owner) at the parts counter over the years. Part of the problem was that I didn't know about the existence of the other F250 until 5 or 10yrs ago and the parts counter guys have no idea why all those other parts show up on their screens.😤
The heritage body style came out and the larger engines wouldn't fit. The brain trust probably figured out that having a different body style for the F150 is what the consumer wanted. They then created the larger Superduty body. Now they are back to using the same cab for both. Found this statement "The F-150 has been America’s bestselling pickup for 43 years, and a bestselling vehicle for a whopping 38 years. Such numbers are a testament to the F-150’s ever-increasing popularity among truck buyers nationwide" They must know something, I guess. All the brands have issues and do stupid things. It's what you get with book educated engineers.
most things are stupid but this video helped me as a 460 owner. As much hate as ford gets, you do see a lot of old bodies on the road still. I got a 91 460 f250 I'm restoring and it's really grown on me, despite it's downsides. Thank you for the quality content Wes.
How ironic. My son and I just replaced the power steering pump on his '97 F-Super Duty with the 7.3 Powerstroke last weekend. I believe it was the original pump. Unfortunately, I didn't get out there to help him in time. We had to put a new pulley on it after he bent the original trying to take it off using a 3-jaw puller. Most auto parts stores loan out tools. At least he learned how to do it right. Before replacing it, we just routed both return lines into a bucket and ran it dry.
@@WatchWesWork Agreed. I also like to put some of my favorite penetrating fluid on them to help them come off. That being a mixture of pure oxygen and acetylene, delivered through a long brass nozzle. Conveniently available in large bottles.
the only ones that who can rival landscapers in sheer abuse of trucks are roofers. at least landscapers have semi legit excuse for rust, roofers just plain dont give an f what they do to truck
Many, many, many moons before you were born,the company I worked for had several old F-750s with air brakes and an air horns, and the noisiest part of any of them was the power steering pump, followed by the air brakes, and the horn was a distant third. Seems perfectly normal to me.😁
Every time you sigh about things I laugh because I do the same thing, "I was slightly hopeful that (insert disappointment here) wouldn't happen but I'm not surprised it did."
I think in 97 they made 2 versions of the 250, the light had the 7 lug and the heavy was 8. I remember the oil filter in the destruction path of the front wheel.
Correct, the 7 lug, “new body style”. And the 8 lug, old body style, available in crew cab shortbed and extended cab versions. I have a 97 F250HD OBS CCSB 7.3 PSD 4X4. Great truck!
We had a 94 f super duty with the almighty 460. Towed a 14,000 pound boom lift with it once into a headwind an used a whole tank of gas to drive 35 miles. Anyways these old girls were work horses for sure!
Plenty of Salt Belt sketchiness there. Maybe if the remanufacturer put as much inside the pump as the paint job on the outside it would not be so noisy. Thanks for the video, Wes,
Wes...the 1997 F250 came in 2 flavors. The f250 and the f250HD. the regular f250 was a beefed up f150 but the f250hd was a true HD truck... My father has the 1997 f250 hd with the old body style and the 351 motor
When I bought my 2006 Taurus a few years back, I fully expected to hear the power steering whine. To my astonishment, it was, and has been ever since, perfectly quiet. I flush the fluid every 20000km (Canadian, sorry...), and it has never made even the slightest whimper.
There was a magic elixer that I had once that when you put just an ounce or two into the pump it silenced all that noise. I used it a few times on noisy pumps and it worked great, no more noise and the pump worked like brand new. It was just a small tube and I used it all up. I went to go get another a couple of years later and could never find it again. I think the maker of the pumps must have bought the company and removed it from the market so they could sell more pumps.
I've heard people use limited slip additive to try and quiet Ford pumps. The best thing I ever did for mine was swapping pump and bracket for one out of a van. (Saginaw pump)
This pans have been sold for equine/animal feed pails for at least 50 years. We still have some from 1980 and they’ve been in with a horse almost the entire time
That's a cool power steering bleeding hack! If you have ever seen the massive V plow that guy has for that clapped out unit, then you would understand it probably sounds normal. 🤣
Personal addition to the bleed hack, Run a longer hose outside of the engine bay and into a container set on the ground. Set three quarts, open in the engine bay. Run the pump with a drill/ratchet/impact. (Left hand) Continue to fill the reservoir as the pump runs it out of the system. (Right hand) If you're really froggy or you have a second hand, lift the front off the ground and turn the wheels while bleeding. If you still have noise after completing this, put a vacuum on the fill side of the res to pull out the extra bubbles. Noise is air. Always air.
@@CrimeVid Ya know the ones you used to be able to get at the dry cleaners? Measure about 90 thou. Great for exhaust hangers and brazing the muffler back on.
Had a few like that. Took several cycles of working it and letting the air bubbles in the fluid dissipate, do it again. Some never did get quiet again, or I was just more aware of the noise it had been making before ... sometimes you auto tune them it if you drive it a lot. Big trucks/tractors show as much or more deterioration in the northern States. Wisconsin, Michigan trucks often come south with layers of flaking rust, and signs of rust jacking in laminated frames. Makes the truck dealer's detail man groan every time he see's one come in, he's got many hours of work to do before repainting the frames. Chipping, wheeling, needling, sometimes media blasting. Most others just get a steam cleaning and a thick layer of paint.
My family used to have a F Series Super Duty that my dad bought from one of his previous jobs at the Power Plant. It had the Diesel in it and we used it as a Farm Truck to haul hay and Farm Equipment as he used to bale hay for people as a side Hustle we also had land that we kept Cattle on and we used the same truck to feed and haul the Calves off to the Livestock Auction.
I have to say, state inspections are a gone issue. However, I see some vehicles that would never ever be allowed on even a country dirt road if they stated inspections up again... Thumbs Up!
@@flowrebaz6189 I thought that state troopers could pull a vehicle for an inspection. Of course, they could do nothing more than lights, tires, wipers and brake noises. That could be enough, though, to get some junk off the roads or repaired.
@@jeffryblackmon4846 I’m talking cars with missing fenders, bumpers(front and rear), smashed in back ends with tied down trunks and such. Even so, I’m Utah, a trooper and cop will pull you and give you a repair ticket but that is much cheaper than repairing the vehicle so most just pay that and drive the dangerous vehicle over and over.
I remember reading an NTSB report on an accident involving a school bus. One non-contributing factor to the accident was brake issues with the bus. The bus in question had a recent 'state inspection' sticker on it and it was eventually discovered the garage that had been contracted to do the inspection had simply 'ticked' all the appropriate boxes on the report without actually inspecting the vehicle. To cut a long story short, the garage is no longer performing state inspections.
Steering on a Furd is more of a suggestion than a steering input. But, if so inclined, I bought a Red Head Steering box for my 02 F250. Pretty impressed with it. Took about 3" of back and forth play out of it and its been about a year.
You are correct. The F-Superduty was only available as a cab and chassis. They were only available as a 2wd from Ford, but Quigley and Marmon Harrington both did 4wd conversions on them. If you want to fix the power steering issues on those trucks (except for the 7.3) find a power steering pump, bracket and high pressure line from a 92 - 96 E-Series van with the correct engine. They use a Saginaw power steering pump. Completely eliminates the whine, plus it reduces the steering effort.
Found out on my mother's Taurus with that style pump. They recommend bleeding the system with the wheels off the ground, and the engine off. Work the wheel back and forth slowly watching the fluid rise and fall. Was the only way we could get the damn thing to stop howling and puking fluid after the high pressure line replacement. I've also had good luck hooking the fluid extraction system right to the return from the rack/gear. Apply vacuum and fill the pump reservoir till clean fluid come into the extraction line.
Wes, the owner of the truck that you were working on might want to either do a right hand drive conversion or replace the seat. That doesn't look like a comfortable ride.
Wow Wes. I just finished watching Ivan replacing a junk alternator and then you replaced a junk power steering pump. Junk replacement parts it's the name of the game lately. So sad. Thanks for sharing !
Had the same problem sound with a ford explorer, I replaced the pump, still had the noise. It took two months to figure out it was the tension and carrier pulleys. I changed them and no more noise !
If I was near you I would find the biggest POS and drop it off for repair just to hear the comments on TH-cam. Anyone that has ever worked in an automotive repair shop can relate. Reminds me of a day at work over a decade ago.
wes i have a 1997 f477 service truck and several half tons and a f350. they are all loud however one thing i will say is i have had much better luck using mercon v the oem motorcraft fluid seems to run much better and much quieter than other oils. my 2 cents
I've replaced at least six (6) PS pumps on my 1993 S Duty with the 7.3 Idi, two were rebuilt pumps, ALL were junk. I finally put in a used PS pump off a 5.8 Ford pickup I have and it works great for now.
"Structural Seating", brilliant, love your engineering descriptors Wes; keeping the vehicular scenery firmly in the 1990's to early 2000's. Great work and video. Thanks for sharing. Best regards from the UK. John.
Yep. Normal Ford noises. My last one made that noise for 9 years. My step son bought a brand new Ford that made that noise. I think almost every Ford I owned made that noise, and they all worked fine. When my chevy made that noise I had to put fluid in.
Wes, this seems to be the story of my life as well, I wonder how many others get parts for equipment that's crap. What an annoying waste of time and money. You have my sympathy.
there were 2 versions of f250 available in the transition to the Super duty body style. You could get the light duty 250(beefed up f150) and the OBS 250. The super duty bodies were first available as 1999 MY.
It's absolutely incredible the customers that Wes has come his way. Instead of extending the life of his engine he chooses to be cheap and not change the air filter so it can cause the engine to ingest fluff from it into pretty much the entire engine. But, our intrepid Uber mechanic Wes gets the job done and back on the road actually steerable with the much vaulted tail light warranty. A nice after noon nap time wake up video.
I built an IHC R120 pickup around a 6.9 Diesel. The engine came with one of those terrible Ford power steering pumps. I took the canister/reservoir off and mad a place for an ORB connection. This worked really well. I wish I had made a SAGINAW conversion.
I always thought they looked great. Probably the cause of my mom having a ‘99 Taurus and my dad having an ‘01 supercrew for many years while I was growing up 😂 They were at least different, in a time where the big three had all been building basically square trucks forever. That ‘01 was also an incredible driver, we took it all over the country comfortably with a family of four pulling a pop-up camper. By the time my dad handed it down to me in 2011, it had 210k on it, and I sold it to a friend 5 years later with 300k on it. Original engine, trans, and transfer case. The rear end needed rebuilding once
My dad bought a 97 just as they came out got a killer deal on his because they weren't quite sure how they were going to sell 😂. That didn't last long they got super popular at the time.
I have a 01 ..hated them ugly things till I picked this one up .. 2 wheel Dr, V6. 5 speed stick, cab & 1/2 4 Dr .. the little SOB did everything I ever wanted it to do, 300k on it's retired but I'm redoing it .. one of them trucks that'll be on my top 5 list and I owe that truck, getting southern sheet metal rebuild the V6, owned many trucks but it earned a complete redo
Ford power steering back in the 90's was very noisy. I remember my dads 1995 Mondeo the noisiest thing on it was the power steering. Great video Wes. I would love your channel just for the old rotten rust buckets alone. We have the MOT here in the UK which would have sent this stuff to the crusher a decade ago but its interesting to see all this junk still on the road on your side of the pond.
a quiet ps pump on old fords is more rare than gold.replaced mine 83k ago.still noisey, but works great.flushed system & put a magnet/ filter in return line.worked great ever since.got used to noise.
nah, not just 'kids'. more like cheap business owners that cant be bothered taking care of their equipment, refusing to admit when it's time to send beat POS to the crusher
Try jacking up the front, get the wheels off the ground, fill the pump, run the wheel back & forth with the motor off. Work the air out...then start the engine run the wheel some more. Let it down...see if that pattern helps. It works on the Dodge trucks I work on. Cheers Wes!
Man I live in the rust belt. Northern Maine. I thought I seen some stuff in my shop but your projects are something else. We have inspections yearly. On anything that touches rd. It sucks. I belive in them the a degree. Say my grandma she needs someone to inspect her car every year. So she cam stay safe. But say me that knows his stuff and what's not safe and put about 5to7k a year into then regardless no I dnt need an inspection. My fist size rot hole in the floor is just a taint vent. Keeps it cool in the summer. And we'll for winter it's nicely made opening for 30 wire wore harness going to my sander dump body and lights. Damn pencil pushers that sit at a desk think they no what keeps a vehicle safe on the rd. They should worry more about the drivers then the car
I bought a new Superduty in 2005 and a friend of mine and I were riding down the interstate when we passed one of those 1997 F-250 trucks. He told me, "HA! That guy had the wrong tailgate on there." "No, that is the right tailgate," I said. I think that was essentially the F-150 with a 7,700 lb. payload package. I think they didn't come out with the Superduty as we know it until 1999. I think Ford continued the old body style on the heavy trucks until 1999 and ran that until 2016? when they went to the aluminum body. Great video!
The '97 F-250 jellybean truck was known as the F-250 "7700", which referenced the GVWR. My buddy's dad had one. Can't say much bad about it as it was pretty damn reliable, but as a Ford guy, I hate that body style the most, I hate the idea of 7 lug wheels, and I hate OHC engines in work trucks. It wasn't one of Ford's better ideas.
Yeah die hard Ford guy here, but Christ i hate those engines. I don't care about the stories of people with 500,000 miles on them. Or even 200K. I have a few relatives with trucks with two and three valve engines that have insane miles like that on them, and i still hate them lol. "HURR DURR, let's make an OHC engine you hafta rev to the moon to make the 12 lb ft of torque it puts out, and toss it in a truck then tell people it can tow! It'll be hilarious!" These things got any more gutless you'd go backwards slamming the gas in "drive"
It's amazing how a vehicle can be falling apart all over, but the parts you need to change are always firmly attached and don't want to come off.
That's the way of rust. Your rocker panels will fall off if you bump them but rust will cause bolts to seize
if you want important parts to fall off easy just drive a chevy, the ball joints and tie rods like to come off on their own ahaha
@@johndowe7003tie rods sure make it interesting especially when the shock mounts rust off or the shock bolt wears off the upper shock bushings lol but none of that keeps the gm trucks from being driven and worked hard lol
What happened? It went from whale songs to cats mating?
Imagine that, been feeding hogs with unbreakable oil pans and didn’t know it.
It's the adult version of Saturday morning cartoons, Matt from Diesel Creek and Wes back to back! Fun Video Wes! 👍😁
Wes has it over everyone for reasons too numerous to list or explain, way to go Wes!
When out walking and without looking, I can always tell a Ford by the power steering pump whine. I'm long retired as a mechanic but seeing a Ford on our lot when I got to work meant my day was already going downhill. The worst ones were the Dustbuster (Aerostar) or the most loathsome, the Windbag. You can guess the model. Love your channel Wes and full marks for your efforts and commitment to quality work. You are a credit to the profession.
Never understood why Ford felt the need to make several different weird looking minivans in the 90s. The few that are still on the road are in a sad way.
I worked for a rebuilder in "The 80's" who got his start thanks to the Ford power steering pumps. Pure junk. He designed his own competents to replace the original crappy design.
If Ford had a better idea, they never told anyone about it.
Man when he turned that steering wheel it sounded just like my old in bed when she moans really loud...
my junkyards only have chevies and imports so eh
Bad case of “ford door” with the rocker delete package, upgraded seats, finger prybar headlight actuation, free floating exhaust, 4x2 with a snow plow attachment! Absolutely MINT! BTW, the power steering problem at 4:40 is an easy fix, the belt is on backwards 🤣
When it Ray's it pours. Keep on trucking down there in FL. Looking forward to seeing you branch out on your own!!
Those “drain pans” are sold at feed stores. Made for feeding calves or horses. Nice because you can set them out and not worry about them getting stepped on.
I was going to say the same thing. It should work for motor oil as well. If I recall, hog farmers like these in particular as the root under them when they become empty.
@@Farm_fab Yup. Basically just a pan that’s pretty indestructible. Also heavy so they don’t blow away. They come in some bigger sizes as well. We have a big one on the back porch for dog water. Used to have a plastic bucket but my wife’s Golden Retriever puppy kept tipping it over and carrying it away so we got one of these big rubber ones. Now instead of tipping it over she’s getting in it and playing in the water.
@@tomjohnson6036 Oh to have the fun of that puppy. Plenty of days I'd trade places.
Those pans also don’t freeze water as quick or as hard
'Small' brick mason mud pans are great for this, too. Hold several gallons of vehicular effluent.
Love the tail-light warranty! lol
Shhh, don't tell anyone, but I'm slacking off and watching Wes work instead of me.
Sold by napa not a sponsor, lol! Great shoutout to Eric O. I think both of you guys are a national treasure. Keep up the great video’s I’m a fan for life.
Wow, thanks!
@@WatchWesWork 2002 s.duty, 4,2tdi. brazilian,. not sold in u.s. i had noisy p/s, so filled, sucked it out, about 4lt.. didnt get all of it. id say original from 2002. done 174 th k,s. turning the p/s pump, brilliant idea.. [ dont tell anyone,,ssshhhhh..]
"How do you turn the lights on? Oh you just gotta be a man." I spit my coffee all over my monitor and desk. I also coughed for 10 minutes.
OMG! The BEST line on YT by far! GREAT VIDEO!
We had those same rubber pans in the military to catch leaks on our vehicles while parked. I never saw one break or tear and we definitely weren't easy on them. Most were run over on a weekly basis and still performed well for years until eventually they would be lost or left somewhere.
I agree they were awesome. Especially the massive ones for working on strykers. But I have seen one or 2 of them tear before. Rare though. Wish I had some for home
@@silverpandaws6230 I believe you can get them at Tractor Supply they are feed pans
"Lost"...
@@southstreetbarbecue7875 this guy gets it
Came here to mention this... The Army loves them (the soldiers not so much), but they're non-existent in the Air Force, even with tactical vehicles.
When you tested the steering, brakes, it sounded like you were trying to move a donkey that didn't want to go anywhere.
I have to say as a mechanic and also the Scottish version of a “state inspector of vehicles” I always laugh my bollocks off watching these videos. I don’t know if you know what’s involved in a uk “inspection” known as an “MOT” but I can honestly say after watching you for years on TH-cam that maybe 2 or 3 of your customers cars would pass an inspection over here. Basically al the cars I see you fixing would have been scrapped over here 10-20 years ago lol. A pinhole in in metal here is a weld job or no sticker. We probably scrap far better cars here than what’s on the road over there. Anyways it’s always a pleasure watching your videos and your work. Love the channel 👍
My thoughts exactly, Mustie1 and 5150mxVW have some real rot boxes to work on and they seem to get them through
Nanny state, nothing new.
I’d say you’re being generous at 2 out of 3. Over here in Finland our inspection would fail any car with frame rot, or significant floor rot, and they take a prybar and give the underside a good whacking while inspecting. Same with brakes, every car goes on a brake testing setup, essentially a dyno operating in reverse. It’s also like the MOT in the regard that every car no matter the size gets inspected, newer cars nowadays don’t need it every year, and museum registered ones are every other year, and motorcycle are luckily exempt, I guess the reasoning is that a faulty motorcycle is most likely to just kill the operator.
Luckily here in Alberta, Canada if you know a good mechanic you can have anything you like pass inspection. I've had more than one vehicle pass inspection without the mechanic even viewing it. That's the way it should be.
As patient as you are on camera, I can imagine you get just as frustrated as anyone with some of the vehicles you are expected to resuscitate.
Ahhh the tale of a landscapers carriage…..a nightmare as old as time. Never fear viewers, our Hero managed to slay this unmaintained beast.
Wes needs a roofers beat POS to showcase who beats their trucks more.
My best advice to all viewers is when your having a bad wait till Saturday morning watch a WWW video and all your troubles will vanish. Thanks for the high quality entertainment, now I must start my work day.
When flushing a power steering system equipped with hydro boost. Make sure to pump the brakes with the engine off to discharge the hydro boost. Then suck all the old fluid out of the reservoir. Lube Guard makes a really good power steering additive. ATF+4 and Lube Guard goes in all my hydroboost applications. Even in -20 weather they all operate smooth without the typical cold weather stiffness and noise.
you also need to lift the front end of the floor and turn the steering wheel side to side with the engine off to bleed the air out of the system and the pump will not be noisy
@@xXJoeChevyXx Agree. Some systems just like to be a pain. I do typically get the front end off the ground and cycle it as you said. Usually don't have any issues. Every now and then one just doesn't want to cooperate. End up letting them sit 30-45 minutes then cycle the wheel, check the reservoir, then start it up.
@@ShainAndrews Maybe I'm lucky or magical, but I just let it sit overnight, top it up the next day and it's quiet.
I know this speaks of ancient times but I bought a brand new 1976 3/4 ton Ford Explorer off the truck . Among other headaches Ford had to replace the power steering pump every month for 10 consecutive months . I voiced my concern to Ford about not wanting to have to replace pumps monthly at my expense after warranty expired . The dealer had a factory rep address the cause . The factory rep after investigating told me that the only pump that would hold up would be a $300 plus Lincoln Mark iv pump that I would have to pay for . Ford would only pay for ome pump till warranty expired . There were so many like issues that I finally traded it off . Enjoyed video , God bless .
Rubber pan is actually a live stock water bowl. Easy to pop frozen water out and refill.
Great for oil though i bet.
As long as they don't deteriorate from it (like my rubber coated insulated gloves :( ).
First possible issue i see with it is the tendency to flex, might make it difficult to move around or lift without spilling
@@lolatmyage they're still pretty stiff
Thanks for the info!
until it folds in half spilling all the oil
Taillight warranty!! I haven’t heard those words in 45 years. You made my evening as I got a nice chuckle out of that.
I have three late 90's Fords with 460's. Two have never had the power steering pumps replaced the third I replaced at 200k. Tried 2 carquest rebuilds, both made noise and didn't work, tried an ac Delco rebuild, made it six months, finally bought a rebuilt motorcraft, no noise and hasn't missed a beat in over 5 years. Also in 1997 Ford made a f250 with the f150 body and they made an f250 heavy duty with the old style body. Thanks for the videos Wes.
A bad Ford power steering pump? Inconceivable!
the only thing worse is a chrysler !
Ford has had power steering pump problems since the mid 70s. I don't understand why Ford hasn't been able to supply a reliable pump for nearly 50 years. They have used Saginaw pumps and steering sectors on some vehicles and they work well but they use the pump hat they've had so many problems with on the majority of their vehicles.
Great videos Wes! Morske says you need to move to Oklahoma or Texas work on some rust free vehicles should be a whole new world! Thanks for having us! Bullet Bob from Texas!🤠🤠🤠👍👍👍
That would just be weird.
When I started doing furniture removals in the late 80's my boss had two ford d series, one a 6.5 tonne and the other a 7.5t - which had a 1400 cu/ft pantech body with cab over luton or grannys attic and the "power steering" in them was the diameter of the steering wheel. 3 point turns took two of us on the wheel sometimes!
That rubber “drain pan” is the exact same pan I used for animal feed. I never thought about using them for oil. Smert feller.
They sell those rubber pans at nearly every feed store in my area. So if anybody is looking for one… check your local feed stores. Support your local community vs Amazon. Lol
Drainpan ? Fortaflex horse feeder. Hats off to all who keep old stuff running!
Ford made an F-250 light duty that was set up like that. After they got rid of the light duty they made an F-150 7700 package which was the light duty in different clothing. I had an 03 with the 7700 package, It had an f-250 rear end, trans, beefed up brakes, and they did have 7 lug wheels.
Omg. Finally someone to confirm i was not seeing things. They just yeah right. And roll the eyes.
Never knew about structural floor mats until I started watching Wes. West Texas boy.
A good tip for removing boots like that is to get a right angle pick under and then use a lubricant spray such as pb blaster to un stick it.
Between you and Eric, I can't even drive by a NAPA without saying "not a sponsor"....
I did get some real nice semi loaded calipers for my 2010 Camry, real nice quality and at a steal of a price, Not a sponser. But I'll use them more often when I buy online.
I did the steering box on my duramax recently and made the made the MAJOR mistake of letting it suck a little air... And good god! I paid for that one! A couple hundred lock to locks later... You tha Man Wes!
ford, 4 turns your good. duramax,[ isuzu], when will chev ever make there own engines..the 6.5td was a disaster. 1950,s buik petrol engine. fords 70,s v6, in the capri, weighs more than a 298, because it was meant as a diesel. but re made as a petrol. same as chev but different.. 2 engines id love to have, lly/lbz duramax, & a 460 ci . better design than the 454... here in aus, if you had 2000 late model LS engines, be sold in a day..
@@harrywalker5836 I don't think it has anything to do with manufacturer. You suck air into anything with hydro boost and 4 turns ain't gonna cut it. I've owned every Power Stroke except for the 6.7 and an LBZ and I'll take my LMM (with DPF & EGR del) over all of them with only the 7.3 coming close to making me think about.
That rubber "drain pan" is a livestock feed pan that you can find at any farm store! When we had horses, we would pour their sweet feed in those, and they would promptly bite them, and dump the feed out in the dirt, so they ended up in the garage as drain pans!
Dang you're lucky Wes. If that was me I'd have gone to get a replacement replacement pump and they'd have been out of stock. And the next shipment would be sitting in the Wang Chung province waiting for the next available boat Expect delivery sometime in August...
Wes for President. He's smarter than most most of the people I meet on a daily basis
The Ford 1998/9 F250 fiasco has been a nightmare for me (as a '99 F250SD PowerStroke owner) at the parts counter over the years. Part of the problem was that I didn't know about the existence of the other F250 until 5 or 10yrs ago and the parts counter guys have no idea why all those other parts show up on their screens.😤
The heritage body style came out and the larger engines wouldn't fit. The brain trust probably figured out that having a different body style for the F150 is what the consumer wanted. They then created the larger Superduty body. Now they are back to using the same cab for both.
Found this statement "The F-150 has been America’s bestselling pickup for 43 years, and a bestselling vehicle for a whopping 38 years. Such numbers are a testament to the F-150’s ever-increasing popularity among truck buyers nationwide" They must know something, I guess. All the brands have issues and do stupid things. It's what you get with book educated engineers.
You should go by the GVWR to get the right parts. Even when getting parts for the Superduty, different weight ratings can change parts
most things are stupid but this video helped me as a 460 owner. As much hate as ford gets, you do see a lot of old bodies on the road still. I got a 91 460 f250 I'm restoring and it's really grown on me, despite it's downsides. Thank you for the quality content Wes.
How ironic. My son and I just replaced the power steering pump on his '97 F-Super Duty with the 7.3 Powerstroke last weekend. I believe it was the original pump. Unfortunately, I didn't get out there to help him in time. We had to put a new pulley on it after he bent the original trying to take it off using a 3-jaw puller. Most auto parts stores loan out tools. At least he learned how to do it right. Before replacing it, we just routed both return lines into a bucket and ran it dry.
The pulleys are pretty cheap. I've ruined plenty of them!
@@WatchWesWork Agreed. I also like to put some of my favorite penetrating fluid on them to help them come off. That being a mixture of pure oxygen and acetylene, delivered through a long brass nozzle. Conveniently available in large bottles.
“We ll give him the taillight warranty “ made me almost spit my beer out. 🤣🤣🤣great video as always Wes. 👍
My Aunt was a used car sales person she used to say they have a 50/50 warranty 50 feet or 50 seconds what ever comes first.
Having worked in landscaping for a good chunk of my twenties you can only begin to imagine what we got up to.
I only see the aftermath!
@@WatchWesWork Everything is a race car. Everything.
the only ones that who can rival landscapers in sheer abuse of trucks are roofers. at least landscapers have semi legit excuse for rust, roofers just plain dont give an f what they do to truck
You are a glutton for punishment working on crap like that. You have my utmost respect..... and sympathy.
Many, many, many moons before you were born,the company I worked for had several old F-750s with air brakes and an air horns, and the noisiest part of any of them was the power steering pump, followed by the air brakes, and the horn was a distant third. Seems perfectly normal to me.😁
Every time you sigh about things I laugh because I do the same thing, "I was slightly hopeful that (insert disappointment here) wouldn't happen but I'm not surprised it did."
I learn thing's watching you I a Ford Guy I'm glad you fix all makes and models really enjoy your tractor work
I think in 97 they made 2 versions of the 250, the light had the 7 lug and the heavy was 8. I remember the oil filter in the destruction path of the front wheel.
Correct, the 7 lug, “new body style”. And the 8 lug, old body style, available in crew cab shortbed and extended cab versions. I have a 97 F250HD OBS CCSB 7.3 PSD 4X4. Great truck!
Don't understand how people can be so rough on vehicles and not keep up on maintenance. 🙄
It's job security for you Wes. Keep up good work. 👍
We had a 94 f super duty with the almighty 460. Towed a 14,000 pound boom lift with it once into a headwind an used a whole tank of gas to drive 35 miles. Anyways these old girls were work horses for sure!
Good god!
Plenty of Salt Belt sketchiness there. Maybe if the remanufacturer put as much inside the pump as the paint job on the outside it would not be so noisy. Thanks for the video, Wes,
“Ford door” never heard that before. That rocker delete was also special
You're right about the door... Our '57 F600 has one (or two) of those! Plenty of rough country roads over the years but still hangin' in there..
I love how you narrate your videos your videos they are awesome I may be an old lady but as a kid I help my stepfather work on his pickup trucks
Wes...the 1997 F250 came in 2 flavors. The f250 and the f250HD. the regular f250 was a beefed up f150 but the f250hd was a true HD truck... My father has the 1997 f250 hd with the old body style and the 351 motor
When I bought my 2006 Taurus a few years back, I fully expected to hear the power steering whine. To my astonishment, it was, and has been ever since, perfectly quiet. I flush the fluid every 20000km (Canadian, sorry...), and it has never made even the slightest whimper.
There was a magic elixer that I had once that when you put just an ounce or two into the pump it silenced all that noise. I used it a few times on noisy pumps and it worked great, no more noise and the pump worked like brand new. It was just a small tube and I used it all up. I went to go get another a couple of years later and could never find it again. I think the maker of the pumps must have bought the company and removed it from the market so they could sell more pumps.
I've heard people use limited slip additive to try and quiet Ford pumps.
The best thing I ever did for mine was swapping pump and bracket for one out of a van. (Saginaw pump)
"Napper Not a Sponsor" SMA LOL.
This pans have been sold for equine/animal feed pails for at least 50 years. We still have some from 1980 and they’ve been in with a horse almost the entire time
That's a cool power steering bleeding hack! If you have ever seen the massive V plow that guy has for that clapped out unit, then you would understand it probably sounds normal. 🤣
Personal addition to the bleed hack, Run a longer hose outside of the engine bay and into a container set on the ground. Set three quarts, open in the engine bay. Run the pump with a drill/ratchet/impact. (Left hand) Continue to fill the reservoir as the pump runs it out of the system. (Right hand)
If you're really froggy or you have a second hand, lift the front off the ground and turn the wheels while bleeding.
If you still have noise after completing this, put a vacuum on the fill side of the res to pull out the extra bubbles. Noise is air. Always air.
After changing the pump it sounds like a horny donkey lol
I am loving WWW more and more..... You, SMA and Mustie are my staple diet. Thank You.
Fencing wire, used extensively in car repairs from the days of the horseless carriage forward.
My dad used baling wire. Never could find that, so I used coat hangers
Electric fence wire works great and is cheap too
@@DeweyCheatumNHoweLLC which gauge ?
@@CrimeVid Go to a building supply store and buy a roll of tie wire for concrete rebar. A much better idea.
@@CrimeVid Ya know the ones you used to be able to get at the dry cleaners? Measure about 90 thou. Great for exhaust hangers and brazing the muffler back on.
Oh! Talk about good quality control at the pump reman shop! 😖 Nice job with the pump replacement Wes! 🙂👍
Had a few like that. Took several cycles of working it and letting the air bubbles in the fluid dissipate, do it again. Some never did get quiet again, or I was just more aware of the noise it had been making before ... sometimes you auto tune them it if you drive it a lot.
Big trucks/tractors show as much or more deterioration in the northern States. Wisconsin, Michigan trucks often come south with layers of flaking rust, and signs of rust jacking in laminated frames. Makes the truck dealer's detail man groan every time he see's one come in, he's got many hours of work to do before repainting the frames. Chipping, wheeling, needling, sometimes media blasting. Most others just get a steam cleaning and a thick layer of paint.
My family used to have a F Series Super Duty that my dad bought from one of his previous jobs at the Power Plant. It had the Diesel in it and we used it as a Farm Truck to haul hay and Farm Equipment as he used to bale hay for people as a side Hustle we also had land that we kept Cattle on and we used the same truck to feed and haul the Calves off to the Livestock Auction.
I have to say, state inspections are a gone issue. However, I see some vehicles that would never ever be allowed on even a country dirt road if they stated inspections up again... Thumbs Up!
When Utah stopped safety inspections the number of dangerous vehicles sky rocketed. You won’t catch me driving my vehicles in that state of disrepair
Scary and stupid- government blows
@@flowrebaz6189 I thought that state troopers could pull a vehicle for an inspection. Of course, they could do nothing more than lights, tires, wipers and brake noises. That could be enough, though, to get some junk off the roads or repaired.
@@jeffryblackmon4846 I’m talking cars with missing fenders, bumpers(front and rear), smashed in back ends with tied down trunks and such. Even so, I’m Utah, a trooper and cop will pull you and give you a repair ticket but that is much cheaper than repairing the vehicle so most just pay that and drive the dangerous vehicle over and over.
I remember reading an NTSB report on an accident involving a school bus. One non-contributing factor to the accident was brake issues with the bus. The bus in question had a recent 'state inspection' sticker on it and it was eventually discovered the garage that had been contracted to do the inspection had simply 'ticked' all the appropriate boxes on the report without actually inspecting the vehicle. To cut a long story short, the garage is no longer performing state inspections.
Thanks Wes for Old Ford truck works thumbs up, I got 97 7.3 idi longbed flat zf5
Steering on a Furd is more of a suggestion than a steering input. But, if so inclined, I bought a Red Head Steering box for my 02 F250. Pretty impressed with it. Took about 3" of back and forth play out of it and its been about a year.
You are correct. The F-Superduty was only available as a cab and chassis. They were only available as a 2wd from Ford, but Quigley and Marmon Harrington both did 4wd conversions on them.
If you want to fix the power steering issues on those trucks (except for the 7.3) find a power steering pump, bracket and high pressure line from a 92 - 96 E-Series van with the correct engine. They use a Saginaw power steering pump. Completely eliminates the whine, plus it reduces the steering effort.
Found out on my mother's Taurus with that style pump. They recommend bleeding the system with the wheels off the ground, and the engine off. Work the wheel back and forth slowly watching the fluid rise and fall. Was the only way we could get the damn thing to stop howling and puking fluid after the high pressure line replacement.
I've also had good luck hooking the fluid extraction system right to the return from the rack/gear. Apply vacuum and fill the pump reservoir till clean fluid come into the extraction line.
EXCELLENT DIGITAL BLOCKING OF NAMES ON THE TRUCK DOORS!!
THEY LOOK LIKE OIL PAD SHEETS.
Must be a coincidence...
Wes, the owner of the truck that you were working on might want to either do a right hand drive conversion or replace the seat. That doesn't look like a comfortable ride.
Wow Wes. I just finished watching Ivan replacing a junk alternator and then you replaced a junk power steering pump. Junk replacement parts it's the name of the game lately. So sad. Thanks for sharing !
Had the same problem sound with a ford explorer, I replaced the pump, still had the noise. It took two months to figure out it was the tension and carrier pulleys. I changed them and no more noise !
Should have checked the shaft first...DoH... Love your job so much you do it twice..
They had a 7700 gvw package with the 7 bolt wheels. The rear axles failed a lot.
Got to be hard to place cameras... Nice work. Thanks for taking the time.
Max is either pointing at the parts warranty mouse nest or displaying his honest opinion.
If I was near you I would find the biggest POS and drop it off for repair just to hear the comments on TH-cam. Anyone that has ever worked in an automotive repair shop can relate. Reminds me of a day at work over a decade ago.
Just the greatest content creator 😊❤️ much respect ✊
No Ford on the yard 😀
Wes you doing ewerything right, you send Ford home 👌
Good work 👍
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wes i have a 1997 f477 service truck and several half tons and a f350. they are all loud however one thing i will say is i have had much better luck using mercon v the oem motorcraft fluid seems to run much better and much quieter than other oils. my 2 cents
I've replaced at least six (6) PS pumps on my 1993 S Duty with the 7.3 Idi, two were rebuilt pumps, ALL were junk. I finally put in a used PS pump off a 5.8 Ford pickup I have and it works great for now.
"Structural Seating", brilliant, love your engineering descriptors Wes; keeping the vehicular scenery firmly in the 1990's to early 2000's.
Great work and video.
Thanks for sharing.
Best regards from the UK.
John.
Yep. Normal Ford noises. My last one made that noise for 9 years. My step son bought a brand new Ford that made that noise. I think almost every Ford I owned made that noise, and they all worked fine. When my chevy made that noise I had to put fluid in.
If you're too short, just let the air out of both front tires, this will lower the vehicle. When you're done just reinflate them!!
Like I always told my ex-wife, "Honey, you're not short, it's just that the ground is too low.
Wes, this seems to be the story of my life as well, I wonder how many others get parts for equipment that's crap. What an annoying waste of time and money. You have my sympathy.
there were 2 versions of f250 available in the transition to the Super duty body style. You could get the light duty 250(beefed up f150) and the OBS 250. The super duty bodies were first available as 1999 MY.
It's absolutely incredible the customers that Wes has come his way.
Instead of extending the life of his engine he chooses to be cheap and not change the air filter so it can cause the engine to ingest fluff from it into pretty much the entire engine.
But, our intrepid Uber mechanic Wes gets the job done and back on the road actually steerable with the much vaulted tail light warranty.
A nice after noon nap time wake up video.
I cracked up at the "You gotta be a man" comment about the headlight switch. I love the cow mooing under the hood too!
I built an IHC R120 pickup around a 6.9 Diesel. The engine came with one of those terrible Ford power steering pumps. I took the canister/reservoir off and mad a place for an ORB connection. This worked really well. I wish I had made a SAGINAW conversion.
Wow Wes, in rare form with that intro, channeling your inner Vehcor. 👌
Those rubber pans I believe are used for feeding livestock/horses. But I use them in my shop for holding tools and bolts when disassembling stuff.
We call the body style 150 from 97 to 04 the Taurus F150 , it's a aquired taste of a truck
I always thought they looked great. Probably the cause of my mom having a ‘99 Taurus and my dad having an ‘01 supercrew for many years while I was growing up 😂
They were at least different, in a time where the big three had all been building basically square trucks forever. That ‘01 was also an incredible driver, we took it all over the country comfortably with a family of four pulling a pop-up camper. By the time my dad handed it down to me in 2011, it had 210k on it, and I sold it to a friend 5 years later with 300k on it. Original engine, trans, and transfer case. The rear end needed rebuilding once
My dad bought a 97 just as they came out got a killer deal on his because they weren't quite sure how they were going to sell 😂. That didn't last long they got super popular at the time.
We call them bubble trucks. Definitely an interesting time to own a ford.
I have a 01 ..hated them ugly things till I picked this one up .. 2 wheel Dr, V6. 5 speed stick, cab & 1/2 4 Dr .. the little SOB did everything I ever wanted it to do, 300k on it's retired but I'm redoing it .. one of them trucks that'll be on my top 5 list and I owe that truck, getting southern sheet metal rebuild the V6, owned many trucks but it earned a complete redo
My grandfather had a 7 lug 97 F250. It was a good rig.
White remains the most popular color year after year
Cmon Wes get your belly up on that core support! I just changed coils on a 2000 f250 5.4. Fun fun. 😁
Looks as if someone did some landscaping in the cabin too…😬
Ford power steering back in the 90's was very noisy. I remember my dads 1995 Mondeo the noisiest thing on it was the power steering.
Great video Wes. I would love your channel just for the old rotten rust buckets alone. We have the MOT here in the UK which would have sent this stuff to the crusher a decade ago but its interesting to see all this junk still on the road on your side of the pond.
a quiet ps pump on old fords is more rare than gold.replaced mine 83k ago.still noisey, but works great.flushed system & put a magnet/ filter in return line.worked great ever since.got used to noise.
Thats what happens to any vehicle when you have a company truck driven by a multitude of "kids" who drive the sh*t out of it and dont look back !!
nah, not just 'kids'. more like cheap business owners that cant be bothered taking care of their equipment, refusing to admit when it's time to send beat POS to the crusher
Try jacking up the front, get the wheels off the ground, fill the pump, run the wheel back & forth with the motor off. Work the air out...then start the engine run the wheel some more. Let it down...see if that pattern helps. It works on the Dodge trucks I work on. Cheers Wes!
Man I live in the rust belt. Northern Maine. I thought I seen some stuff in my shop but your projects are something else. We have inspections yearly. On anything that touches rd. It sucks. I belive in them the a degree. Say my grandma she needs someone to inspect her car every year. So she cam stay safe. But say me that knows his stuff and what's not safe and put about 5to7k a year into then regardless no I dnt need an inspection. My fist size rot hole in the floor is just a taint vent. Keeps it cool in the summer. And we'll for winter it's nicely made opening for 30 wire wore harness going to my sander dump body and lights. Damn pencil pushers that sit at a desk think they no what keeps a vehicle safe on the rd. They should worry more about the drivers then the car
I bought a new Superduty in 2005 and a friend of mine and I were riding down the interstate when we passed one of those 1997 F-250 trucks. He told me, "HA! That guy had the wrong tailgate on there." "No, that is the right tailgate," I said. I think that was essentially the F-150 with a 7,700 lb. payload package. I think they didn't come out with the Superduty as we know it until 1999. I think Ford continued the old body style on the heavy trucks until 1999 and ran that until 2016? when they went to the aluminum body. Great video!
The '97 F-250 jellybean truck was known as the F-250 "7700", which referenced the GVWR. My buddy's dad had one. Can't say much bad about it as it was pretty damn reliable, but as a Ford guy, I hate that body style the most, I hate the idea of 7 lug wheels, and I hate OHC engines in work trucks. It wasn't one of Ford's better ideas.
Yeah die hard Ford guy here, but Christ i hate those engines. I don't care about the stories of people with 500,000 miles on them. Or even 200K. I have a few relatives with trucks with two and three valve engines that have insane miles like that on them, and i still hate them lol.
"HURR DURR, let's make an OHC engine you hafta rev to the moon to make the 12 lb ft of torque it puts out, and toss it in a truck then tell people it can tow! It'll be hilarious!"
These things got any more gutless you'd go backwards slamming the gas in "drive"
What's wrong with seven lug wheels