Seller Gave Up On This UTV So I Got It For CHEAP
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I think he never changed the oil and ran it without checking the oil level 'till it was almost out of oil. I think he tried changing the oil after the engine was damaged. I didn't see any dirt on the oil drain bolt nor anything the skid plate would've covered. I think he left the skid plate off after he tried to drain the little oil that was left. Adding new oil didn't help the damaged engine to run, so he sold it... Whatchu think?
Yeah it's something with engines they always screech when you run them without oil 😂
Probably rolled on side and lost oil pressure to the plain bearing and toasted it. Then filled it with fresh oil and sold it to you!
Came across this channel just recently and what a great channel! Loved how you methodically got to the bottom of the problem here, I really learned a lot from it. Looking forward to part 2 👏🏻👏🏻
I would like to say thank you joe I’ve recently had surgery and been in recovery I can’t work on my machines and watching your videos cures that itch I have
I really enjoy your positive attitude and detailed approach on tearing down these engines. Great Job!
Love your videos and the fearless tackle of the work. I think no matter what the outcome the point of your videos is to learn new things and troubleshoot problems and this is why I come back and watch! Please follow up with this machine as the content will help many ODES owners. Hard to find good full breakdown of these machines. Keep up the great content and keep wrenching real!!
Nice Odes machine you picked up Joe, though it looks like you'll need a case of W-D 40 to clean the machine and some steel wool and emry cloth to clean up the front of the winch. I have no doubt you'll make it shine, your great about doing just that.
The machine looks pretty much new, so I don't think you'll do badly even with the engine overhaul. You're a hella quick mechanic, too, which helps. Your expertise makes these jobs look easy.
nah no one wants these Chinese knockoffs, especially if it says "rebuilt engine"
@@bradenwuesthoff5639 I mean they aint that bad you just gotta find the right one that doesn't sell the junkie chinese clones of a clone and either way its just a canam without the branding on it
@@bradenwuesthoff5639 And besides all motors and vehicles go through a out of the engine bay overhaul at some point of the said vehicles life as well
@@bradenwuesthoff5639 still a $10,000 vehicle.
Why didn't t the original owner get his money back
100 hours 1000 miles or is it3 feet 30 min with that company
Good luck
When you're trying to locate a sound, you can take a piece of gas line and use it as a stethoscope. Put it up to one ear and plug the other. Then probe the engine and you should be able to locate the source of the noise. Old trick my dad taught me and I'm almost 80.
No matter what the problem was, its great to see the teardown and learn, like you said. 👍
Food for thought. I would NEVER crank the engine like that after you have removed all the oil. and certainly NEVER EVER start the engine with zero oil, even for a minute. seriously, i could hear the bearings grinding away.
Made me pucker up a little every time he cranked it over again with no oil. That being said, great videos!
He commented that he added oil before starting
im goin to comment before i finish the video and ask if you have looked at the fly wheel and or starter area? ive had some autos in the past sound similar with a broken flex plate/ flywheel. love the vids man. crazy how i do it all day and then come home and watch other ppl fix things i dont normally see. i appreciate how thorough you are. keep it up.
Wow I hope you are able to get that fixed, It sounds like the seller knew something like that happened and just wanted to get as much as he could for it. That oil definitely looked changed. Love these tear down videos though, good luck on the repair.
I would almost think that he change the oil to hopefully fix the problem. But it seems to me that he really flushed that shit out. There were no specs of metal or nothing
When you get perfectly clean oil out of a machine, just run it through a paint filter and put it back in. There's nothing wrong with it. Oil doesn't go bad, it just gets dirty.
My dad and Grandpa taught me if it's too good to be true it probably is not good but the benefit of all this is when you get it rebuilt you know what you have and you got a dump bed and another 4x4 UTV thank God you didn't pay a lot for it because what you saved is what you're going to put back in the engine and you get to teach all of us how you do it That's the benefit of it have a great day Joe enjoy
Hey Joe, my side by side was making the same noise. Squeak and rattle. It’s at the dealer now under warranty. But glad to know what it could be
NICE 👍 you finally took my advice and back up to your garage to unload machines. Smart move..👍👍👍
Brand new oil in a newly sold machine: we know what it means
Yep exactly
Yep. Guy drained the crankcase, pulled out the dirty oil, metal chunks and metallic fines and refilled it with new oil. Dick move
@@stephenstevens6573 Exactly
Ya means they changed the oil lol.
No doubt! Kid he got it from knew damn well the engine was toast.
use a 5/16 nut driver for hose clamps it is so much easier
Glad that you post the bad deals. This is the reality of fixing up and selling. I always play it really safe and only buy when I can break even parting something out. It sucks because I pass up a lot of machines but Im on a budget.
I have over 200 channels on Tv....Yet I find myself watching your videos..Keep up the great work.
Do you ever watch other TH-cam channel videos on diy stuff like how to make ethanol free gasoline fuel at home if you buy your own storage container for holding fuel in with A harbor freight tools electric fuel pump for pumping fuel into your atv's& etc. Around your 🏠 house. By getting two separate storage containers like oil containers the big square ones
works great for that type of set-up purposes to.
I think this is the first video I have watched from you where I felt like you might have "lost" on the deal. I still feel like you can have a solid machine after you finish the rebuild, but you will be lucky to make much money if you sell it. Great content as we watch you dig deep on this one!!!
There were a couple others, but yea this one might be the worst if these don't sell well.
Rebuild kits are cheap for this thing after it’s all said and done he’ll probably have at most $5000 into it. And with the nice and rebuilt motor, it will be worth at least 10.
@@mr.channel6467 10? as in 10 dollars, then yep
@@M.TTT. yep look it up
Fuel pump. It sounds like the same issue I had. My 2018 Hisun 500 UTV had it fail at 100km., a year later and out of warranty. Took it to a Hisun mechanic shop that claimed to know what they were doing, after 3 weeks with them and $150.00 later, for nothing (and if did pay them they would not release it to me) they could not figure it out. I took it back home and figure out the issue myself. After replacing the entire fuel pump assembly, it runs great.
That sucks it wasn't an easier fix. It's cool too see how you diagnose and find the issue.
You can sometimes do the screw driver trick threw the spark plug hole to find bad rod bearings. You just put the screw driver in lightly resting on the piston and turn the engine over by hand and watch your screw driver go up. The moment you see the screw driver start going back down(on down stroke of piston) stop turning over the engine. Then if you push on the piston with your screw driver you can feel it pop down if the bearing is bad. It's just a quick easy way to check it without tearing down the whole engine.
When a deal is not a deal but makes a good video and looking forward to you doing a rebuild
Good video. You win some you lose some. Not a disaster. You’ll always get back what you paid. Even with a rebuild which can only add value.
The squeaking could be the bearing on your primary take the front half of the primary off and try moving the bearing should be able to tell immediately if it’s bad
Joe, I am just blown away at your mechanical skills and the way you trouble shoot
At least with the way the rods are bolted to the crank journal is like the car so all you have to do is replace the rod bearing you don't have to send it out you just plastigage it check your clearances and away you go not like other ATV crankset have to be sent out and pressed apart
Dude some of your finds are insane
Looks real similar to my 2014 maverick 1000 got a rebuild kit crank cylinders pistons rings timing chains and valve seals and chain adjusters and barrings 1170.00.i got that through rev6
Don't give up. I enjoy watching you and have faith in you to fix it
Nice,you'll get her running.I have faith in you!
Top end looked dry when you removed the valve covers. After opening the cylinders I see you found what looks like bearing material. My guess, without watching all the video yet, is the oil pump went and it spun/ate the bearings. Bad oil pump would explain dry top end and no material in the new oil...it's not pushing oil through the motor so no metal makes it into the pan/new oil.
You need to put up an out building with a small workshop and a lift on your other property so you can store everything together safely and keep it organized.
Yeah that's the plan. Saving up haha
@@2vintage Joe, we fans want to see you expand and prosper, that way we get more videos!😂😁
I just paid 5k for a 2017 Ford Fiesta SE, dual clutch auto/manual electric, non-turbo, with less than 80k on the clock, and mostly like new, and in blue candy metallic no less!
I'm sure you could upgrade the bed dumper to a manual dumper. 😄
I've actually seen people do the rod bearings in those motors with the motor still together just unbolt the rod caps and take them out replace the bearing plastigauge it check for your clearance torque the bolts and your done
Depeds on how the crank look though.
oil pump id replace that also. top end looked dry and when it was running it should have flung oil everywhere.
Stuff like this is always a risk. Good job on diagnostics. Hopefully it's not too expensive on parts and you can make some money off the deal.
I'm halfway through your video and that ODES looks more like my old Yamaha Rhino I used to have. Even the Instrument Cluster looks the same as well as the way it was a pain to remove the clutch cover as my Rhino. I know you always figure stuff out and I bet you'll have it sorted by the end of your video, but I would have pulled the primary clutch off, then try and start it before going straight to heads. Still watching...
My nephew bout a brand new polaris side by side,it blew up first time out!! Its been sitting at the dealorship for 5 months or so now
When I did research on odes after seeing tons of them on marketplace for cheap I came across alot of people who said they are good machines until the engine goes. N the engine will go, hours n miles don't matter. The engines were really cheaply made, example that plastic timing chain tensioner. This is definitely one of those instances where you wanna get the good parts for the rebuild, but it wont be worth it if its just a flipper
I know this sucks, but I'm actually excited to really watch you dig into an engine again. It's been a while from what I've seen.
You might be able to get oversized bearings and have the crank ground. I would have the block and cylinders checked for squareness just because it’s so low miles to have that failure unless you can get the guy at admit to running it without oil. If your going to put that much in it finding out the cause would be a wise move. I’d also check the price of a remanufactured engine or long block vs all the parts.
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You do not need to replace the crank or the rods in that particular motor being that it has Rod caps it's as simple as unbolting them and putting new bearings in exactly like you would do in an automobile that crank does not have to be sent to be rebuilt
Check the one way bearing! In the primary clutch before you test it down
Rod bearings gone. Good luck pulling that motor, Joe your gonna need it.
I really don’t get why you don’t check the oil before you buy items. I think you do sometimes but that’s one of the first things I do
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That seller was very dishonest, he knew he destroyed the bottom end and put fresh oil in to conceal it!
No regrets joe, it's great content, the top end looks perfect, that's a plus!! Besides, it's always good knowing you did a fresh bottom end and you KNOW it's going to run perfect now!
I fell asleep watching the dump be tilt
When you said that the previous owner was looking at the heads, I knew this was a bad deal. When buy I always try to get a read on the sellers mechanical knowledge to know what Im getting myself into.
How does him saying he looked at the heads tell you its a bad deal? Im genuinely curious
@@zillobeast5257 Because hardly anyone with no mechanical knowledge would know how and engine works and what heads are on an engine, never mind actually taking it apart and physically looking at the heads. Many people with mechanical knowledge wouldn't even inspect the heads as its quite a bit work to get down to see the head unless he used a scope to look down the cylinder. Point is, justin is right, this guy had plenty of knowledge of mechanical stuff, so 2vintage is going to pay the price for it now. The guy even changed the oil, probably multiple times, to get it to the point where no metal flakes came out when draining it, but required a top end tear down to even see those flakes.
@@zzzzzz...9902 so u r saying this guy tried to fix it himself and thought it was too much of a hassle so 2vintage shouldve known it was gonna be a bigger job, if so 2vintage couldve still bought it but he shouldve gotten it for cheaper maybe like $2,000?
@@zillobeast5257 The guy drained the oil and filled it up with fresh oil and sold it, if someone tried to fix it and decide it was too much of a hassle and was going to sell it, why spend the time and money on oil when it already clearly needs an engine job to any buyer? Its because the guy was trying to scam/mislead the seller, 2vintage, in this case. Its clear as day. The guy knew it was a rod clearly, and never told 2vintage that.
@@zzzzzz...9902 i agree it was a bad deal and that the guy was clearly scummy with the oil change, but idk if he knew it was the rod. Taking off the top end is pretty basic and theres a lot of people who shouldnt be going inside an engine and still go into them anyway and once they realize theres a problem in the bottom end they panic and try to salvage their losses, i think this guy was one of those people
Love your house and location ,looks awesome. Keep up the good work
The body is a copy of the Yamaha side by sides. I had a 760 Yamaha and my BIL bought one of those and tried to convince me it was the same. He found out different when I spent my time riding mine and he spent all his time working on his because it never ran more than two days in a row.
Maybe a lemon, but still. A great watch you tearing this down 😊
Hey Joe, thanks for the video. This one taught me a lot. Sorry about it being a Bummer Deal for you though. Hopefully, you can break even at least once it's done.
For only a 100 hour and 1000 mile machine, this sounds like a bit of a "Story" if you know what I mean.
I am surprised and bothered by manufacturers who use Plastic Parts when they should use metal. It tells me the manufacturer doesn't really care about the reliability or longevity of their products.
Just sell them to unsuspecting customers and move on. Seems like they would care about reputation, and to have Word of Mouth Sales take place because of the quality making the item a good purchase for the Customer, who then tells their friends.
Instead, people watch this video, see the cheap parts and the consequences of having such cheap parts. Sure makes me want to go out and buy one just like it. Not!
Yea, I was thinking the same thing: why the engine failure on such a new machine.
Clotch bearing. Before the clutch might be ceesed. Case baring. For clutch. Hope its easy
I have the same machine. It is also a 2013. Yours should of came with a windshield and a rear winch and ball combo. That's all factory standard equipment. I took my dump bed ram out and fixed the box to the frame so I could put a jump seat in the back. Now I can carry 4 and not be as long as the factory 4 seater that is as long as a limo. lol Funny that even being the same model and year there are some differences. My battery is located under the passenger seat , not under the hood. Your roof lights are round and mine rectangular. Could be because yours has the sport sticker setup and mine is camo, not sure. The only trouble I've had so far is busting off the rear bumper and breaking a tie rod end but that was me playing smash up derby and the tie rod making it fly through the air. lmao! Hope you get her all fixed up again. Your motor is baked :( . Yes it is a knock off but for what I paid new and all the standard options it has it was the best model for me.
nice that they are 2 peice rods that saves all that pressing the crank so thats a plus
Did you put oil in it? Saw you drain it but it looked like you cranked on a dry block. Also your low oil engine shut off sensor may need to be tested.
i thought the same with it looking pretty dry in the bottom end and top after the oil drain.
@@that_yeller_foreman1529 I was curious too whether he filled it and didn't film it.
Oh Boy... well, atleast it'll be a like new machine after the rebuild, & a new set of front tires joe....
Look very dry when taking it apart and 0 metallic flakes after turning over a lot, would definitely give the oil pump a look over before rebuilding it bro? Pleasure to watch as always it a lot of work but you will have it back up and running again bro 👍👊
Yep that's what I was thinking too. Looked too dry to me.
buddy changed the oil before he tried to sell it in order to try and hide the fact that the engine is toast.... no worries big joe! you can gitter all done fixed up right! 👍
A couple months ago i bought the x4 version of this for 1500 cad and made it look pretty and sold it for 8000cad
The bed actuator isn't hydraulic it's all electric. Check the grounds from frame to motor. I have a Odes love it.
The motor is a Chinese clone of the rotax good motor real Torrie.
The canAm motor parts work. Alot of Yamaha rino parts fit the the drive trane
Very methodical, Joe. Felt sorry for you when you said at the beginning that you regretted paying $3,000. Your ear told you immediately it was going to be bad.
I never see KTM machines on your show. Do you ever see any Rotax machinery? You do a great job BTW. Wisconsin looks like nice country. 👍
Lights work always check that first because you got bent over 😂😂😂
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Good for you making a video and putting the seller out like that grimmy selling practices.
Did u try the McDonald's grimmy milkshake
@@zerozero6265I’d rather live
@@garrenmcbride what does that have to do with a milkshake
Damn Joe when you were lifting up the bed I thought for sure you were going to put one of those "5hrs. Later" memes in there 😁😂
Willing to bet the seller did a quick teardown, found what you found, then threw it back together enough to barely run, and here we are
Joe, for future trouble shooting, get you a stethoscope and use it to pinpoint weird noises.
It works wonders, and can save you a lot of unnecessary work such as breaking an engine down when all you needed was to replace a bent push rod, for example.
Another great video!
Allan in Columbia, SC
I've been using one for-years definitely saves time. And I hope he put that oil back in it before starting it up again 😬
You also use a wood dowl rod to do the same thing
I have one but I haven’t got the nack for pinpointing the noises yet, i sounds the same everywhere I put it 😂
I use a long screwdriver 😅
@@Hyngyynj , Joe is young, so he can target those weird noises like my ex used to target my debit card😂😁
Better check oil flow into the rod bearings
What a drag man, it's a decent looking rig!
I had a odes 1000! It was a massive UTV but the clutches are the cheap weak spots !
Good ole' American made quality. lol
That cvt clutch cover pushing against the clutch and crankshaft is probably what wrecked the engine. I wouldn't be surprised if you remove the crankshaft and the find that the main thrust bearing is wrecked from taking that side load. Notice how the engine turned over so much better when you took off the clutch cover.
The covers only plastic the clutch just would have ate its way through almost every time I pull the clutch cover off a CVT machine it's always got a little bit of where the clutch has touched the plastic cover there's no way that the plastic cover would put enough sideload on the motor if anything it would screw up the main bearings not the rod this bike is like a car alls you have to do is unbolt the rods from the crankshaft put a new bearing in their use plastic gauge to check your clearance and bolt it all back together this machine doesn't even need the crankcase disassembled to replace rod bearings probably the only really good thing about it
@@MrATOMBOMB420 Nevermind.
I don't think it rolled over any easier I think he may have had a different booster pack on it as he does have a small lithium one and the bigger lead acid battery one I'm not going to disagree that yes it wasn't making the scrubbing sound after he took the clutch cover off but it's a fairly common thing I know in an ideal world yes the clutch should never touch that plastic cover but I think we all know this is not an ideal world all's it really would have done is made us cuffing sound or even a louder noise but it will not cause your bearings to fail on your crank
@@MrATOMBOMB420 yeah. it sounded like it was binding up but it really was the jumper box.
Hard to believe you didn't check the oil level before turning it over.
Not only that but he drained the oil out of it and then started it two or three times with no oil in
Same old thing, time and again.
@@donnaluke4103 yeah he has a bad habit of not checking the oil and just firing bikes up first thing I do when I get a bike is a fresh oil change fresh oil filter fresh fuel filter fresh air filter
@@MrATOMBOMB420i thought maybe he added oil back into it i was like no dam way is he actually trying to start it with no oil
@@MrATOMBOMB420 Atleast he checks that the lights work, that seem to be the most important to him...
That machine is actually based off of the Yamaha Rhino 700. I have one and the chassis is identical.
Oh boy, looks like you’ve got your work cut out for you this time! Looking forward to seeing the rebuild..
That sickening moment when you know you've been scammed😧
Check the primary clutch
you take the rough with the smoothe Joe ,but a man of your Caliber will have that on the road just like that ...nice content ,just don't forget about the Hovercraft ,i hate seeing it abandoned in a field ,Neil from Wales UK
Hovercraft stater is getting fixed!
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I had a Chinese bike, a 230 replica engine and the parts did swap right over but you could tell the parts from eachother due to manufacturing.
you should find a legit rotax can am motor and throw in it, Buy a bottom end used but good relatively cheap and MAKE it a can am swap, im sure that thing is powered way down, however, get a actual factory rotax bottom end and tune and flash it with MR RPM that would be one SICK machine, it would be like a maverick but short framed. it would be a sick build honestly
Hey, Joe. Will there a part two? Live all these videos.
Great video as always
The screeching was from you leaving part of the secondary on the shaft ...
Maybe use a long Chile's sled next time iner that thing to catch all those fluids
You will still make a good return but not until you have invested a lot of your time. Interested that you had pistons and rings down for replacement when the top half of the engine seemed to have survived unscathed ?
maybe you can get to the rod bearings from the oil pan?
Saw you take the oil out, did not see you put in new oil.
That’s actually made by hysun, Coleman, axis, and Cub cadet sell the similar ones
sweet man!! i wish i lived closer id love to buy one of them
that be a good machine once re built at least you can do the work yourself imagine the cost of fixing it is had pay someone to fix it plus make for couple of interesting vid hopefully get enough views cover cost of parts keep up good work👍
Draining the oil and then starting it definitely won’t do it any good.
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I admittedly know very little, but what’s the chance that the head gasket blew and then they installed the one piston wrong on rebuilding the engine. That seller is lying, and why was there very little oil in the engine but a lot of coolant in the engine, can’t wait for next video on this rebuild. Cheers go have a beer
I wonder if it would work if you cut the bottom 3 inches off from a plastic 55 gallon drum and used it as a big catch pan.
I used to own one of thouse deff make a better air cleaner set up on it that helped a ton on mine