It's a shame that the comments are full of people offended that you considered the light-skinned Imazighen of North Africa to be original Imazighe. I find it quite ironic how many African Americans complain by pointing out the skin color of others when that is the first thing that the first anti-racism activists tried to combat: judging others by the color of their skin. I never imagined that they judge others the same way they are judged for having dark skin. No one in the world is 100% original native to a place, because that is a human construct. No culture is completely immutable and humanity has always mixed since we emerged as a species. Thanks to all this we prosper. It is totally wrong to demand purism at all human levels when in reality they do not exist, never existed and never will exist. The light-skinned Amazigh are Amazigh native to North Africa, period. Treating them as non-native invaders is a lack of respect for their identities. Then African Americans complain that white supremacists in the United States call them the same thing. Is a shame that instead of considering them African brothers, they end up calling them various derogatory names just for having white skin, a real shame.
The problem with your argument is that the Europeans considered North Africa a while European population. Why are you attacking black Americans? Why are Europeans calling you Caucasians?
@@funniestever5333 At no time did I attack the African-American community. If you saw it that way, then the one who is susceptible is you. And the term "Caucasian" used to indicate any light-skinned population is pseudoscientific, since human races do not exist at a biological level. That some continue to use it is out of habit and ignorance, not because it is scientifically accurate. Europeans themselves are genetically diverse, as are African peoples and other human populations. As I said, human beings have been mixed for millennia and we continue to do so.
@@funniestever5333 At no time did I attack the African-American community. If you saw it that way, then the one who is susceptible is you. And the term "Caucasian" used to indicate any light-skinned population is pseudoscientific, since human races do not exist at a biological level. That some continue to use it is out of habit and ignorance, not because it is scientifically accurate. Europeans themselves are genetically diverse, as are African peoples and other human populations. As I said, human beings have been mixed for millennia and we continue to do so.
@@funniestever5333 I don't attack the African-American community. If you saw it that way, then the one who is susceptible is you. And the term "Caucasian" used to indicate any light-skinned population is pseudoscientific, since human races do not exist at a biological level. That some continue to use it is out of habit and ignorance, not because it is scientifically accurate. Europeans themselves are genetically diverse, as are African peoples and other human populations. As I said, human beings have been mixed for millennia and we continue to do so.
@@funniestever5333 At no time did I attack the African-American community. If you saw it that way, then the one who is susceptible is you. And the term "Caucasian" used to indicate any light-skinned population is pseudoscientific, since human races do not exist at a biological level. That some continue to use it is out of habit and ignorance, not because it is scientifically accurate. Europeans themselves are genetically diverse, as are African peoples and other human populations. As I said, human beings have been mixed for millennia and we continue to do so.
The funny thing is all the people in the comment section trying to undermine the diversity of africa. Do you guys just express your opinion or is it based in geneology research ? İt's so funny that these people still call us berbers or claiming to be berbers not knowing even the original word and where it comes from and why we are called that.
The various European people who invaded / occupied North Africa, (. Greeks , Romans and Byzantines ) including the Vandals, but also the Arabian and Turkish occupation, as well as the French iand Spanish, and we cannot forget the penchant ( taste ) Arabs and Turks had for white women : all of these things altered the culture and people of North Africa, the original indigenous stock of North Africa was indeed what we called sub-Saharan Africa today but over the course of centuries there was a lot of interbreeding between the true indigenous people and the new arrivals, which resulted in the people we see occupying these lands today
You've lost credibility, it's nonsensical that you try convince us that people who have mixed genes are Afrikans. Most Europeans like Italian, Spanish and Portuguese have Afrikan blood, so are they Afrikan or European???
@@faded300G it would depend on the amount of African blood. Napoleon said that Africa started in Spain, even in this century that view is still held be true in Europe ; that certainly leaves food for thought 🤔, huh ?!?!! And to Parry your comment even further, it would be how the Spanish people view people from the Dominican Republic, who considered themselves to be Spanish, but in reality started out as African slaves, (which in all totality, is a direct correlation to what happened in North Africa, and the subject we are discussing now) the Dominican view is not a reciprocal feeling embraced by the Spanish. The largest populations of descendants of African slaves in the Western hemisphere, that would be Brazil and the US, identify as African, despite, (""US"" ) having some amount of European DNA , just not to the degree that Dominicans have. In closing, it all depends on the percentage of certain DNA. ie, this is exactly what happened to the sub African population in Northern Africa
Um. . . . From the comments alone I feel like this video is going to be wild and perhaps inaccurate. Especially considering that Berber and Amazigh tribes be be found within dark skinned nations such as Mali. And as someone with Berber ancestry and an Amazigh step dad, I can say that the true Berbers were and are still melaninated ppl. Yah need to stay looking in the less populated regions of any Arab anf Arab speaking countries to find the true indigenous populations.
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First of all we aren't called Berbers, we are called Amazigh and one thing about Amazigh of north Africa especially rif in Morocco we don't marry from outsiders, we don't even marry from Arabs and you can make your research about that. Our genes are totally different from Iberians and Arabs or even Turks.
It's really not that hard to understand, Berbers/Maghrebis are a mix of Paleolithic Iberomarusians (35%), Neolithic European Farmers (40%), Neolithic Levantines (15%) and West Africans (10%), in general, of course outliers and minorities will exist.
In berbers societies being berber (amazigh) is often related with white and light skin and can be even considered synonym/meaning of the word. (specially in ones where there is a lot of both darkskinned and lightskinned ppl) also there are genetics evidence like guanche samples or neolithic samples who match modern berbers like ichelhine for example.
Berbers are europeans who come to africa in large numbers after 1000bce. The first berber civilization was the phoenicians who colonized northwest africa and founded carthage. After 1000 bce egypt collapsed to the berber meshwesh dynasty egypt . Also the mande civilization of dhar tichitt collapsed after 1000 bce right when the guanches appeared on the canary islands. The guanches look exactly like europeans but are related to berbers. The mande dhar tichitt civilization lasted from 2000 bce and ended 1000 bce. archaeologist say there is evidence berber migration ended dhar tichiitt. Mande west africans had civilization all over north west africa 2000 years before the first berber civilizations.
@@shafsteryellow mande had a presence in the sahara since 10,000 bce. they had civilization 2000 years before the first semitic berber civilizations carthage and berber egyptian meshwesh dynasty. actually berber civilization was growing when mande dhar tichiit collapsed.
@@AfroArtistaFilms These whytes have NOT been in North Africa for 12K years. You can't even show 5K years of their existence. Real arabs are blak, and of course, real Berbers are blak. Sheshonq was clearly blak as well as the other Libyan Pharaohs. At best, there are a few Asian looking ancient Libyans with what looks like straight, Asian hair and Mongoloid eyes. I think they are a missing component that whytes don't seem to want to admit to being in the area...
@@AfroArtistaFilms The Aterian is associated with early Homo sapiens at a number of sites in Morocco. While the Jebel Irhoud specimens were originally noted to have been similar to later Aterian and some Iberomaurusian specimens, further examinations revealed that the Jebel Irhoud specimens are similar to them in some respects but differ in that the Jebel Irhoud specimens have a continuous supraorbital torus while the Aterian and Iberomaurasian specimens have a discontinuous supraorbital torus or in some cases, none at all, and from this, it was concluded that the Jebel Irhoud specimens represent archaic Homo sapiens while the Aterian and Iberomaurusian specimens represent anatomically modern Homo sapiens. The 'Aterian' fossils also display morphological similarities with the early out of Africa modern humans found at Skhul and Qafzeh in the Levant, and they are broadly contemporary to them. Fleming et al. (2013) stated: But Scerri (2012) also reckoned that the (Aterian) peoples were ultimately of sub-Saharan origin, or as we have proposed, they dispersed from Ethiopia by way of the Sahel and Lake Chad and the (interglacial) Saharan wet spots.
Any person on this post who denies black indigenous North Africans are not from the continent period. The African always migrated and integrated genes and cultural elements via languages. The oldest berber language is from Chad. Africans are not a monolith only the new arrivals think of such.
True Berbers are indigenous blaks. The further back you go - mainly before Rome, all you see are real Africans. These whyte Berbers are mixed peoples of Roman, GERMANIC Vandals and Ottoman Turks, and mixes with real Africans. Their language is African - not European or Asian. All one has to do is check the ancient Libyan enemies of Egypt. Also, there is no such thing as 'sub-Saharan' African! People need to stop it with that. When you repeat that lie, you are saying that whyte North Africans are indigenous to Africa and the real Africans are not.
Thank YOU. I HATED when the former SA president told the Dutch "settlers" that they were a white "African" tribe... it made me completely nauseous. "Black African" is indeed a redundant phrase.
You never lie !! Between the Greeks, the Romans, the Vandals, the Byzantines, the Arabs, the refugees from Moorish Spain ,the Turks, the French ,Spanish, and let's not leave out the Arabian penchant for white women , it physically and genetically altered the DNA of the entirety of North Africa. The reference to free people is in association with the ancient Numidians (the dreadlocked Brothers ) of North Africa, who are the progenitors of the people (who took in Vandal and Roman refugees ) of North Africa, and who valued their freedom, even above life itself.
You do like making videos that set off the we were kings crowd. They have hair triggers. Saying indigenous Berbers are White because they are light skinned and not sub Saharan black skinned id silly. I have been to Africa, not a nice place to be, but I have been there. North Africa Berbers are not like Europeans in color or looks, they are more like Middle Easterners with some features of recent negro ancestry. As you go south, there are tribes of negroes that have adopted Berber customs and language, though they are admixed also. As you go further south there are the Fula, they are a hodgepodge of ethnic groups mostly sub Saharan African.
Whiteness is not Indigenous to Africa. The Berbers became lighter from import of White slaves, Arab and European migration and Conquest. Skin colors lighter than what we consider Black are only about 40k yrs old and Whiteness is estimated to be between 8-10k yrs. There is no such thing as an Indigenous White African. What you see in White North Africans is the breeding out of Black skin tones. Also please note that there are still Black North Africans.
@@keilani9904 there are no indigenous white Africans PERIOD! This is an attempt to replace an indigenous black tribes, history and place on the continent of Africa. Let’s get real. Why do you think it’s called the black continent?
Im from Salinas central coast California & I took Ancestry DNA & got 54% Indigenous Americas Mexico Leòn Guanajuato Uto Aztecan and Jalisco Huicol and only 1% Indigenous South americas andean/incan 17% Spain 8% Northern Africa Morocco 5% Cameroon Congo 3% Basque 2% Jewish 2% Senegal 1% Mali 1% Nigeria 1% Arabian peninsula 1% Baltics 1% Portugal 1% Wales
The Original Berbers are the Black Berbers just like the Original Arabs are the Black Arabs. White people just got to Arabia and North Africa 6,600 years ago. So those so called white Arabs and white Berbers are the result of Race mixing between the Original Black people of those areas and the johnny come lately white people who just got to those areas 6,600 years ago. The Original Black Arabs and the Original Black North Africans have been in those areas since the beginning of time.
The perception that only Negroid people are the only legitimate Africans is a gross misrepresentation of reality. Africa is more diverse than you think. People of all shades and features have existed in Africa since prehistoric times.
What you got to understand is the origin of white people and how they got on the planet to begin with. Then you need to know when they was sent to North Africa which Arabia is apart of. For you to say white indigenous people shows that you don't even know and understand the word indigenous because white people are not indigenous to no part of the planet including Europe! They were sent to Europe (all that we could find that is) by our Black Fathers who were from Arabia 6,600 years ago because of their trouble making in Arabia. And some of them were sent to Egypt and North Africa as well. This is the truth history of how white got into Arabia and North Africa. Now can you disprove this? I don't think so! But if you think you can have at it! I'm waiting.
What does that have to do with anything? You should be examining whether what I'm saying is the truth or falsehood. That's what you should be asking and focusing on. Truth cannot be defeated no matter where it's coming from or who's saying it. Truth disarms you where you cannot attack it with facts and logic and disprove it. This is why you can't respond back to me with anything that can disprove what I said because I'm actually telling you the truth! But you just haven't realized it yet. Give it time. It will sink in!
@@robertepps2834 A few corrections if I may. North Africa is not part of Arabia. The Arabian peninsula is on another different continent. Secondly , Your black Fathers or black people in general are NOT from Arabia. Nation of Islam is well known for ridiculous claims.
Original Berbers aren’t black. Look up any depiction prior to the Ottomans and they were light skinned. It’s estimated 1 million white slaves were brought to North Africa and the Ottoman Empire. If slaves factored into skin tone shouldn’t they all be black considering over 7 million black slaves were brought into the region starting from the 7th century and until the 19th century?
You do know the original Berbers are black right and if they are Berber by nativity they are mulatto Berbers right or are those who assimilated the traditions of the Berbers just after annihilating the original berber, or ostracising them just like what the Arabs did in Africa and the ivrit Jews attempted to do in Ghana and then went to Israel and marginalized the autochthonous indigenous African people
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Original Berbers weren’t black. The ancient Berbers are genetically a combination of Native North Africans, Early Europeans and Eurasians. You can make an argument that they have black ancestry but the original Berbers were mixed race long before they were even called Berbers
@jabu1591 What's a native North Africa beach? The Sahara was not always a desert. And further more, you had Black African that Inhabited the North before it changed to a desert.
Berber is a language and culture, not a race or skin color and originates in East Africa not Europe. But of course Europeans (and this video) will not tell you this and try to pretend that "berber" is exclusively associated with light or white skin. Which is implying it originated with it originated with Eurasian migration into North Africa and that is completely false. And they also use genetics to reinforce this by focusing exclusively on populations close to the coast, in order to associate Eurasian genes with the origin and spread of Berber languages. Not to mention they totally omit and downplay the spread of Greeks, Romans, Europeans and Arabs in more recent times. The spread of Berber languages is associated with the spread of pastoralists and other populations across the Sahara from East Africa about 6,000 years ago. In fact, the origin of most neolithic traditions in North Africa is in the ancient Sahara and Sahel, including early agriculture, pottery and pastoralism. That is also not Eurasian in origin. And the rock art across the Sahara is proof of this, along with all he various neothithic and pastoral sites they have found. And that reinforces the fact that the language Amazigh is an Afro Asiatic language, which has its main homeland in East Africa. And haplogroup E-M81 derives from haplogroup E-M35 which comes from the Horn of Africa. And black Africans have been in North Africa for hundreds of thousands of years and over time have evolved many different features especially in areas close to Europe, with variation in skin tones that are indigenous (similar to populations in East Africa and the horn). But in coastal North Africa you have had mixing with Eurasians on a continual basis over the last 5,000 years. And this includes many Berbers who now are in Europe (especially France) and have European mates. So please, it is obvious that parts of North Africa close to Europe would have mixture but that proximity to Europe is not where Berber language or culture originates. And historically white skin has not been the primary phenotype of North Africans especially across the Sahara going back 10,000 years ago when it was wet. And it is the Sahara where ancient Berber culture originates not along the coasts of the Mediterranean. And no, Sheshonq was not an Amazigh as there is no proof that he spoke a Berber language. He part of the tribes of ancient Libya called Meshwesh but there is no evidence of what language they spoke. And it has always been implied that because they are depicted with light skin, they represent the origin of Berber language and culture, which again is false. They are just an ancient coastal population who happened to be lighter skinned but are not the origin of Berber languages and culture.
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White skin originated in Central Asia, 10,000 to 8,000 years ago [8,000 to 6,000 BC]. There is no way that these people, with European or Central Asian phenotypes, are products of indigenous developments of the African geography and climate. Their phenotype would not have developed without admixture or in some instances, complete replacement, by people bearing phenotypes that originated in more recent times in Central Asia. They may bear indigenous haplogroups, such as yDNA E, but that doesnt change the fact that they no longer reflect the image of the True Indigenous people of North Africa. Look at the mummy of Uan Muhuggiag, found in Libya. The mummified child is an indigenous black African. It is not until we get closer to the period of the Bronze Age Collapse that "white people" in the context of North Africa begin to be portrayed in recorded history. These "Libyans" depicted in Egyptian Art are likely related to the Sea Peoples from the Mediterranean or even further north. Again, not indigenous to Africa.
This is completely false, the fair skin mutation in Western Eurasians specifically is 22,000-28,000 years old, and just because a paleolithic population lacked the mutation, does not mean you would be or look like a Black Africans. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Light_skin
basic database nile valley studies zarahan quote- Both skeletal/cranial and DNA studies by other authors confirm that some Neolithics did not derive from the Near East. They most likely resembled African populations. Hence comparisons using older European Neolithics versus Africans are comparisons with older prehistoric Europeans who looked more like Africans, than modern 'white' Europeans, as shown by Brace (2005), and Hanihara (1996) also, who states "Early West Asians looked like Africans." "The absence of mtDNA haplogroup J in the ancient Portuguese Neolithic sample suggests that this population was not derived directly from Near Eastern farmers. The Mesolithic and Neolithic groups show genetic discontinuity implying colonisation at the Neolithic transition in Portugal." (CHANDLER, H.; SYKES, B.; ZILHÃO, J. (2005) - Using ancient DNA to examine genetic continuity at the Mesolithic-Neolithic transition in Portugal, in ARIAS, P.; ONTAÑÓN, R.; GARCÍA-MONCÓ, C. (eds.) - «Actas del III Congreso del Neolítico en la Península Ibérica», Santander, Monografías del Instituto Internacional de Investigaciones Prehistóricas de Cantabria 1, p. 781-786.) "Early Europeans still resembled modern tropical peoples - some resemble modern Australian and Africans, more than modern Europeans.. Nor does the picture get any clearer when we move on to the Cro-Magnons, the presumed ancestors of modern Europeans. Some were more like present-day Australians or Africans, judged by objective anatomical observations." (Christopher Stringer, Robin McKie (1998). African Exodus. Macmillan, p. 162) Source egyptsearchreloaded basic database nile valley studies
Then there is this. quote- African peoples are the most diverse in the world whether analyzed by DNA or skeletal or cranial methods. The peoples of the Nile Valley quote- Simplistic "race percentage" models are dubious in Africa which has the highest genetic diversity in the world. That diversity proceeded from deeper sub-Saharan Africa, to East and N.E. Africa, then to the rest of the globe. All other populations, including Europeans and "Middle easterners" carry this diversity which was built into Africa to begin with. Africans thus don't need any "race mix" to look different. Their diversity is built-in and supplied the whole globe. Any returnees or "backflow" to Africa looked like Africans, including Europeans. (Brace 2005, Hanihara 1996, Holliday 2003). and quote- African people have a range of physical variation and don't need inspiration or mixes from cold-climate/light skinned Europeans or Asiatics to explain why. Features like narrow noses, thin lips, height etc are all indigenous to Africa. Africa has both the highest phenotypic diversity and the highest genetic diversity in the world and don’t need cold-climate/light skin inspiration for that established fact. All cold-climate/light skinned Europeans and Asiatics are SUBSETS of original African diversity. Modern DNA studies find even though some African peoples look different, they are genetically related through the PN2 transition clade of the Y-chromosome. Thus light-skinned African Libyans and dark-skinned Zulus are all genetically related Africans, even though they don't look exactly the same. (Keita 2004; Tishkoff 2002, Ely et al, 2006, Stevanovitch 2004)
This below was from youtube comment section correcting someone in a video. SuperBunnyman1 quote- Let me get your brother some facts as a person who studied genetics and as a microbiologist by trade I can emphatically tell you that you guys don't know what you're talking about I'm sorry Brothers skin color has nothing to do with interracial mixing so-called black people are the most genetically diverse people on the planet all people come from black people I hope your brothers understand that there is something called natural variation and genetic diversity so basically you can come from a line of people who are very very very very very dark skin and due to genetic diversity you'll eventually come up with a child who is lighter then their ancestors that person may be very very light complexion to where they almost look white or they could be caramel complexion there was a case in Nigeria where a couple married couple had twins one twin came out dark the other twin came out with blonde hair and blue eyes and look white they did a DNA test and both the mother and father are the biological parents this is something that happens more often than you realize there is a whole tribe in Africa I can't remember the name of the tribe they have never been with Europeans and the whole tribe has blonde hair and blue eyes and they are extremely light complected and they have no European ancestry another perfect example I myself am a light skinned brother I have no European ancestry I am a descendant of slaves but fortunately my ancestors were not sexually abused or exploited by the slave owner the only people that are light skinned in my family is my mother and my grandmother and on my father's side is just him no one else is light complected in my immediate family they're all dark or light brown and when I ran my DNA I have no European ancestry so your brothers need to look up some books on genetics
Misinformed research. The real indigenous north Africans are very very black. The Maure, Tebu, Nubians, Siwa Egyptians, Sa'hidi Egyptians, Haratin, Umuhagh, Zanaga and their ancestors were all Black as shown on the 11 yo rock paintings ect ect.These people as you pointed out have a lot of Arab or European admixture, despite the indigenous genetic markers. STR loci would look deeper than genetic markers and easily reveal this fact. Very light(aka white) skin is not indigenous/autochthonous to any part Africa, it is from central Asia. Light (white)skin genes SLC45A2 and SLC24 A5 came from central Asia, and spread all over the world in migrations starting 8000 years ago. These are genes that people inherit via sexual selection, so it is an inherited Asiatic feature from central Asia. Due to back migrations for over 5000 years, anyone in Africa can display a certain amount of the gene mutation activation, creating unique skin shades of light, light brown, brown, and dark brown skin tones of black phenotypes. So it's not an adaptation. North Africans have that most of this gene, from very recent admixtures hence being white. YDNA haplo group E, an indigenous African group. MTDNA haplo group L, is indigenous to Africa. The Anatolian farmers have ancestry from east Africa prior to 15k BC. The Maure tribe still look like horners. So they are a culture/linguistic group only.
His research is poorly done, I cant even take this video serious. He doesnt even know history and science. The Allels for white skin SLC24A5 came to western Europe during the bronze age and that was about 5,000 yr ago, Berbers are older than 20,000 yr and are native to Africa, so how the hell are the original Berbers light skin or white skin? Someone explain that
The people that founded Marrakesh in Mororoco were black men that came from the southern Mauritania and Senegal. The founders are not even from the northern parts of africa, I have reliable academic sources.
You just named some populations that are not even "Black", majority of those are also heavily admixed with West Asians, and not all even related to each other by population history. Not only that, but you are also wrong about the age and coalescence of the light skin mutation, which is 22,000-28,000 years old! Go and read the 'Light skin' article in full and update your information! East Asians for instance have a completely different mutations/alleles for their depigmentation evolution.
You cannot be Indigenous to Africa if you are not what we would consider a Black African. Lighter skin colors than what we deem the Black race are mutations of dark skin, which is older, especially in modern humans. Whiteness in modern humans is believed to have originated in the Turkey, Pakistan, India region and is a relatively new mutation. White North Africans or pale skin North Africans are a result of breeding out Blackness, import of White slaves, Arab and European conquest and migration.
@@freshinc1750 Well no one is Black by skin color. Black is the classified race and yes the San are considered Black by race. All Black people are Brown by skin color. The Black race has a skin tone spectrum and the San people are actually on the mid to dark range of the spectrum.
@@kazRivers2Im from Salinas central coast California & I took Ancestry DNA & got 54% Indigenous Americas Mexico Leòn Guanajuato Uto Aztecan and Jalisco Huicol and only 1% Indigenous South americas andean/incan 17% Spain 8% Northern Africa Morocco 5% Cameroon Congo 3% Basque 2% Jewish 2% Senegal 1% Mali 1% Nigeria 1% Arabian peninsula 1% Baltics 1% Portugal 1% Wales
Indigenous white in Africa? Is that a joke? This people are settlers from the Caucasus mountain, how can they be indigenous to any part of Africa? It is like say Anglo are indigenous of the Americas, this is just crazy. And for those who didn't know, Arabs and Berbers were still trading black African slave in the 1900s, and ironically it was the European colonial powers who put an alt to it. Other facts that might interest black people, the word they use to defined black people in their languages is the same as slave.
@katalinawhite1524 take out the "Black DNA" they don't exist. Without "Black" DNA there are no humans. Despite all the pharsing genetic research papers do, what they do not explicitly emphasize is that humans are 98-99% the same genetically overall and that 98-99% originate from Black/ Sub-Saharan Africans.
There is no evidence to support the theory that the white race originated in the Caucasus. This theory is nothing more than a baseless invention of an 18th century anthropologist, who formulated it because he thought Georgians were beautiful.
The indigenous british people are white I'm white English/British. Those who are not white came over here from India, and Africa their DNA will be Indian or African.
The geography of Africa does not define its blackness. People did not change colour, or features, soon as stepping off the continent. Races were evolving as they moved north, west and south from central Africa, family groups breaking off, moving away and taking their genetics with them. These became new races. African races were diverse long before crossing into Eurasia. North Africa and the Middle East were never ‘subsaharan African’. Hannibal was not ‘Negroid’, (to use an objectionable word).
Color and race has everything to do with how people evolve and adapt to the climate and the environment you live in, if you live near the equator you’ll find that people are darker and will get lighter the further you stray away from the equator. So when you go to Mali and see the twaregh people they have more of a subsaharienne look but as you get to the Mediterranean, you’ll see more lighter features.
I am from sub-Saharan Africa and my wife is Amazigh. They are beautiful people and have a wonderful African culture.
Is it Kabyle?
@@قايا-ص4غ She is from Agadir.
@@Alpha95927 from Morocco
@@قايا-ص4غ yes 🇲🇦🇰🇪
Original white Africans are called Albinos, other people who have white skin are mixed with Greeks, Europeans, ottomans etc
It's a shame that the comments are full of people offended that you considered the light-skinned Imazighen of North Africa to be original Imazighe. I find it quite ironic how many African Americans complain by pointing out the skin color of others when that is the first thing that the first anti-racism activists tried to combat: judging others by the color of their skin. I never imagined that they judge others the same way they are judged for having dark skin.
No one in the world is 100% original native to a place, because that is a human construct. No culture is completely immutable and humanity has always mixed since we emerged as a species. Thanks to all this we prosper.
It is totally wrong to demand purism at all human levels when in reality they do not exist, never existed and never will exist.
The light-skinned Amazigh are Amazigh native to North Africa, period. Treating them as non-native invaders is a lack of respect for their identities. Then African Americans complain that white supremacists in the United States call them the same thing. Is a shame that instead of considering them African brothers, they end up calling them various derogatory names just for having white skin, a real shame.
The problem with your argument is that the Europeans considered North Africa a while European population. Why are you attacking black Americans? Why are Europeans calling you Caucasians?
@@funniestever5333 At no time did I attack the African-American community. If you saw it that way, then the one who is susceptible is you. And the term "Caucasian" used to indicate any light-skinned population is pseudoscientific, since human races do not exist at a biological level. That some continue to use it is out of habit and ignorance, not because it is scientifically accurate. Europeans themselves are genetically diverse, as are African peoples and other human populations. As I said, human beings have been mixed for millennia and we continue to do so.
@@funniestever5333 At no time did I attack the African-American community. If you saw it that way, then the one who is susceptible is you. And the term "Caucasian" used to indicate any light-skinned population is pseudoscientific, since human races do not exist at a biological level. That some continue to use it is out of habit and ignorance, not because it is scientifically accurate. Europeans themselves are genetically diverse, as are African peoples and other human populations. As I said, human beings have been mixed for millennia and we continue to do so.
@@funniestever5333 I don't attack the African-American community. If you saw it that way, then the one who is susceptible is you. And the term "Caucasian" used to indicate any light-skinned population is pseudoscientific, since human races do not exist at a biological level. That some continue to use it is out of habit and ignorance, not because it is scientifically accurate. Europeans themselves are genetically diverse, as are African peoples and other human populations. As I said, human beings have been mixed for millennia and we continue to do so.
@@funniestever5333 At no time did I attack the African-American community. If you saw it that way, then the one who is susceptible is you. And the term "Caucasian" used to indicate any light-skinned population is pseudoscientific, since human races do not exist at a biological level. That some continue to use it is out of habit and ignorance, not because it is scientifically accurate. Europeans themselves are genetically diverse, as are African peoples and other human populations. As I said, human beings have been mixed for millennia and we continue to do so.
The funny thing is all the people in the comment section trying to undermine the diversity of africa.
Do you guys just express your opinion or is it based in geneology research ? İt's so funny that these people still call us berbers or claiming to be berbers not knowing even the original word and where it comes from and why we are called that.
We have berbera they called us
@soukainachaouki265 yeah it's true but any Caucasians in Africa no sorry lol 😆
Very informative.. It just shows how unique this continent is..
They are NOT Berbers! . . . . . . . Period 😑
@@theosonandras4092 they call them selves Twarig the live all over northeast Africa.
Convenient for europeans to be labeled ‘indigenous’ to wherever they chose to settle. What would the Amazigh say to this?
Came here to say this. Berber was and is a derogatory term it should be Amazigh.
They've called North Africa home for 12000 years so I guess they wouldn't feel happy with your statement 😂
@@AfroArtistaFilms europeans are as indigenous to any region of Africa as you, the host of this channel, are African
@@AfroArtistaFilms Can you show us the artifacts for whyte Berbers going back 12K years or even before Egypt was formed?
You call Kenya home, that doesn't make you Kenyan
The various European people who invaded / occupied North Africa, (. Greeks , Romans and Byzantines ) including the Vandals, but also the Arabian and Turkish occupation, as well as the French iand Spanish, and we cannot forget the penchant ( taste ) Arabs and Turks had for white women : all of these things altered the culture and people of North Africa, the original indigenous stock of North Africa was indeed what we called sub-Saharan Africa today but over the course of centuries there was a lot of interbreeding between the true indigenous people and the new arrivals, which resulted in the people we see occupying these lands today
You've lost credibility, it's nonsensical that you try convince us that people who have mixed genes are Afrikans. Most Europeans like Italian, Spanish and Portuguese have Afrikan blood, so are they Afrikan or European???
@@faded300G it would depend on the amount of African blood. Napoleon said that Africa started in Spain, even in this century that view is still held be true in Europe ; that certainly leaves food for thought 🤔, huh ?!?!! And to Parry your comment even further, it would be how the Spanish people view people from the Dominican Republic, who considered themselves to be Spanish, but in reality started out as African slaves, (which in all totality, is a direct correlation to what happened in North Africa, and the subject we are discussing now) the Dominican view is not a reciprocal feeling embraced by the Spanish. The largest populations of descendants of African slaves in the Western hemisphere, that would be Brazil and the US, identify as African, despite, (""US"" ) having some amount of European DNA , just not to the degree that Dominicans have. In closing, it all depends on the percentage of certain DNA. ie, this is exactly what happened to the sub African population in Northern Africa
@@veer-ps4nvhmmm...Africa or black people started much earlier...the melanesians? Or the olmecs?..but I like your comment .
Um. . . . From the comments alone I feel like this video is going to be wild and perhaps inaccurate. Especially considering that Berber and Amazigh tribes be be found within dark skinned nations such as Mali. And as someone with Berber ancestry and an Amazigh step dad, I can say that the true Berbers were and are still melaninated ppl. Yah need to stay looking in the less populated regions of any Arab anf Arab speaking countries to find the true indigenous populations.
True. white skin can not be indigenous to Africa.
Im from Salinas central coast California & I took Ancestry DNA & got 54% Indigenous Americas Mexico Leòn Guanajuato Uto Aztecan and Jalisco Huicol and only 1% Indigenous South americas andean/incan
17% Spain
8% Northern Africa Morocco
5% Cameroon Congo
3% Basque
2% Jewish
2% Senegal
1% Mali
1% Nigeria
1% Arabian peninsula
1% Baltics
1% Portugal
1% Wales
First of all we aren't called Berbers, we are called Amazigh and one thing about Amazigh of north Africa especially rif in Morocco we don't marry from outsiders, we don't even marry from Arabs and you can make your research about that. Our genes are totally different from Iberians and Arabs or even Turks.
@@soukainachaouki265 well the imazighen got into both indigenous Mexicans and Spaniards genetic profile I get my bit from my mom
@@Zigzag_Elijah831Salinas Aye I see some of my ancestors listed in your DNA test. Thanks for sharing your results.
It's really not that hard to understand, Berbers/Maghrebis are a mix of Paleolithic Iberomarusians (35%), Neolithic European Farmers (40%), Neolithic Levantines (15%) and West Africans (10%), in general, of course outliers and minorities will exist.
we liked your shared information but you missed general Qadafi
I met a lot of berbers from Kabyle (most of them have european features), and they all say that scandinavians are their cousins.
In berbers societies being berber (amazigh) is often related with white and light skin and can be even considered synonym/meaning of the word. (specially in ones where there is a lot of both darkskinned and lightskinned ppl) also there are genetics evidence like guanche samples or neolithic samples who match modern berbers like ichelhine for example.
Berbers are europeans who come to africa in large numbers after 1000bce. The first berber civilization was the phoenicians who colonized northwest africa and founded carthage. After 1000 bce egypt collapsed to the berber meshwesh dynasty egypt . Also the mande civilization of dhar tichitt collapsed after 1000 bce right when the guanches appeared on the canary islands. The guanches look exactly like europeans but are related to berbers. The mande dhar tichitt civilization lasted from 2000 bce and ended 1000 bce. archaeologist say there is evidence berber migration ended dhar tichiitt. Mande west africans had civilization all over north west africa 2000 years before the first berber civilizations.
Dna says otherwise.
Genetics say otherwise, or is it that genetics are only valid when they align with your ideology?
@@shafsteryellow mande had a presence in the sahara since 10,000 bce. they had civilization 2000 years before the first semitic berber civilizations carthage and berber egyptian meshwesh dynasty. actually berber civilization was growing when mande dhar tichiit collapsed.
You calling Europeans Afro-Asiatic is a JOKE! Let’s do a DNA test and see if they really do come from Africa.
Well they have been in North Africa for 12000 years so.. Africa is more diverse than you think.
@@AfroArtistaFilms no true !
@@mensilak I would appreciate an educated response! 😄
@@AfroArtistaFilms These whytes have NOT been in North Africa for 12K years. You can't even show 5K years of their existence. Real arabs are blak, and of course, real Berbers are blak. Sheshonq was clearly blak as well as the other Libyan Pharaohs. At best, there are a few Asian looking ancient Libyans with what looks like straight, Asian hair and Mongoloid eyes. I think they are a missing component that whytes don't seem to want to admit to being in the area...
@@AfroArtistaFilms The Aterian is associated with early Homo sapiens at a number of sites in Morocco. While the Jebel Irhoud specimens were originally noted to have been similar to later Aterian and some Iberomaurusian specimens, further examinations revealed that the Jebel Irhoud specimens are similar to them in some respects but differ in that the Jebel Irhoud specimens have a continuous supraorbital torus while the Aterian and Iberomaurasian specimens have a discontinuous supraorbital torus or in some cases, none at all, and from this, it was concluded that the Jebel Irhoud specimens represent archaic Homo sapiens while the Aterian and Iberomaurusian specimens represent anatomically modern Homo sapiens. The 'Aterian' fossils also display morphological similarities with the early out of Africa modern humans found at Skhul and Qafzeh in the Levant, and they are broadly contemporary to them.
Fleming et al. (2013) stated:
But Scerri (2012) also reckoned that the (Aterian) peoples were ultimately of sub-Saharan origin, or as we have proposed, they dispersed from Ethiopia by way of the Sahel and Lake Chad and the (interglacial) Saharan wet spots.
Beautiful people
Any person on this post who denies black indigenous North Africans are not from the continent period. The African always migrated and integrated genes and cultural elements via languages. The oldest berber language is from Chad. Africans are not a monolith only the new arrivals think of such.
Arabs and amazigh know each other I don't differences 😊
True Berbers are indigenous blaks. The further back you go - mainly before Rome, all you see are real Africans. These whyte Berbers are mixed peoples of Roman, GERMANIC Vandals and Ottoman Turks, and mixes with real Africans. Their language is African - not European or Asian. All one has to do is check the ancient Libyan enemies of Egypt. Also, there is no such thing as 'sub-Saharan' African! People need to stop it with that. When you repeat that lie, you are saying that whyte North Africans are indigenous to Africa and the real Africans are not.
Thank YOU. I HATED when the former SA president told the Dutch "settlers" that they were a white "African" tribe... it made me completely nauseous. "Black African" is indeed a redundant phrase.
Good call on that.
You never lie !! Between the Greeks, the Romans, the Vandals, the Byzantines, the Arabs, the refugees from Moorish Spain ,the Turks, the French ,Spanish, and let's not leave out the Arabian penchant for white women , it physically and genetically altered the DNA of the entirety of North Africa. The reference to free people is in association with the ancient Numidians (the dreadlocked Brothers ) of North Africa, who are the progenitors of the people (who took in Vandal and Roman refugees ) of North Africa, and who valued their freedom, even above life itself.
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You do like making videos that set off the we were kings crowd. They have hair triggers. Saying indigenous Berbers are White because they are light skinned and not sub Saharan black skinned id silly. I have been to Africa, not a nice place to be, but I have been there. North Africa Berbers are not like Europeans in color or looks, they are more like Middle Easterners with some features of recent negro ancestry. As you go south, there are tribes of negroes that have adopted Berber customs and language, though they are admixed also. As you go further south there are the Fula, they are a hodgepodge of ethnic groups mostly sub Saharan African.
Had no idea there were indigenous White Africans, Cool! So that's what they mean by diverse☺
There is a reason Africa is called the most diverse continent. Its a CONTINENT after all and motherland of humanity to boot! 🙂
@@AfroArtistaFilms Interesting side account, host.
Whiteness is not Indigenous to Africa. The Berbers became lighter from import of White slaves, Arab and European migration and Conquest. Skin colors lighter than what we consider Black are only about 40k yrs old and Whiteness is estimated to be between 8-10k yrs. There is no such thing as an Indigenous White African. What you see in White North Africans is the breeding out of Black skin tones. Also please note that there are still Black North Africans.
they are not indigenous they are arab colonizers🤢🤮
@@keilani9904 there are no indigenous white Africans PERIOD! This is an attempt to replace an indigenous black tribes, history and place on the continent of Africa. Let’s get real. Why do you think it’s called the black continent?
Im from Salinas central coast California & I took Ancestry DNA & got 54% Indigenous Americas Mexico Leòn Guanajuato Uto Aztecan and Jalisco Huicol and only 1% Indigenous South americas andean/incan
17% Spain
8% Northern Africa Morocco
5% Cameroon Congo
3% Basque
2% Jewish
2% Senegal
1% Mali
1% Nigeria
1% Arabian peninsula
1% Baltics
1% Portugal
1% Wales
The Original Berbers are the Black Berbers just like the Original Arabs are the Black Arabs. White people just got to Arabia and North Africa 6,600 years ago. So those so called white Arabs and white Berbers are the result of Race mixing between the Original Black people of those areas and the johnny come lately white people who just got to those areas 6,600 years ago. The Original Black Arabs and the Original Black North Africans have been in those areas since the beginning of time.
The perception that only Negroid people are the only legitimate Africans is a gross misrepresentation of reality. Africa is more diverse than you think. People of all shades and features have existed in Africa since prehistoric times.
What you got to understand is the origin of white people and how they got on the planet to begin with. Then you need to know when they was sent to North Africa which Arabia is apart of. For you to say white indigenous people shows that you don't even know and understand the word indigenous because white people are not indigenous to no part of the planet including Europe! They were sent to Europe (all that we could find that is) by our Black Fathers who were from Arabia 6,600 years ago because of their trouble making in Arabia. And some of them were sent to Egypt and North Africa as well. This is the truth history of how white got into Arabia and North Africa. Now can you disprove this? I don't think so! But if you think you can have at it! I'm waiting.
@@robertepps2834 Are you a Nation of Islam member by any chance?
What does that have to do with anything? You should be examining whether what I'm saying is the truth or falsehood. That's what you should be asking and focusing on. Truth cannot be defeated no matter where it's coming from or who's saying it. Truth disarms you where you cannot attack it with facts and logic and disprove it. This is why you can't respond back to me with anything that can disprove what I said because I'm actually telling you the truth! But you just haven't realized it yet. Give it time. It will sink in!
@@robertepps2834 A few corrections if I may. North Africa is not part of Arabia. The Arabian peninsula is on another different continent. Secondly , Your black Fathers or black people in general are NOT from Arabia. Nation of Islam is well known for ridiculous claims.
Orginal Berbers are black these are mix race people .. the Turks brough in millions of Euopean women into north africa.
Guanches?
@@7EILUX stop! just stop with the nonsese do u care to debate sir ?
@@kazRivers2 debate on what the skin tone or the genetics
@@kazRivers2 and nah u stop with that whole shit
Original Berbers aren’t black. Look up any depiction prior to the Ottomans and they were light skinned.
It’s estimated 1 million white slaves were brought to North Africa and the Ottoman Empire. If slaves factored into skin tone shouldn’t they all be black considering over 7 million black slaves were brought into the region starting from the 7th century and until the 19th century?
You do know the original Berbers are black right and if they are Berber by nativity they are mulatto Berbers right or are those who assimilated the traditions of the Berbers just after annihilating the original berber, or ostracising them just like what the Arabs did in Africa and the ivrit Jews attempted to do in Ghana and then went to Israel and marginalized the autochthonous indigenous African people
Oui bravo tamanaɣt tameqrant ayma . Mais la grosse faute elle vient elle de nous frères qu'ils ceux bascule de l autre côté. Pour nous font détruire nous racines de nos ancêtres Africains 🦁 Numidies amaziɣ . Azoul .
@@GebDjehutimesHeruAmenmakhet facts they are mix Arabs and turks.
We wuz berbers n shii
Original Berbers weren’t black. The ancient Berbers are genetically a combination of Native North Africans, Early Europeans and Eurasians. You can make an argument that they have black ancestry but the original Berbers were mixed race long before they were even called Berbers
@jabu1591 What's a native North Africa beach? The Sahara was not always a desert.
And further more, you had Black African that Inhabited the North before it changed to a desert.
And in ancient kemet they know as tamahu, those with reddened skin
Berber is a language and culture, not a race or skin color and originates in East Africa not Europe. But of course Europeans (and this video) will not tell you this and try to pretend that "berber" is exclusively associated with light or white skin. Which is implying it originated with it originated with Eurasian migration into North Africa and that is completely false. And they also use genetics to reinforce this by focusing exclusively on populations close to the coast, in order to associate Eurasian genes with the origin and spread of Berber languages. Not to mention they totally omit and downplay the spread of Greeks, Romans, Europeans and Arabs in more recent times.
The spread of Berber languages is associated with the spread of pastoralists and other populations across the Sahara from East Africa about 6,000 years ago. In fact, the origin of most neolithic traditions in North Africa is in the ancient Sahara and Sahel, including early agriculture, pottery and pastoralism. That is also not Eurasian in origin. And the rock art across the Sahara is proof of this, along with all he various neothithic and pastoral sites they have found. And that reinforces the fact that the language Amazigh is an Afro Asiatic language, which has its main homeland in East Africa. And haplogroup E-M81 derives from haplogroup E-M35 which comes from the Horn of Africa.
And black Africans have been in North Africa for hundreds of thousands of years and over time have evolved many different features especially in areas close to Europe, with variation in skin tones that are indigenous (similar to populations in East Africa and the horn). But in coastal North Africa you have had mixing with Eurasians on a continual basis over the last 5,000 years. And this includes many Berbers who now are in Europe (especially France) and have European mates. So please, it is obvious that parts of North Africa close to Europe would have mixture but that proximity to Europe is not where Berber language or culture originates. And historically white skin has not been the primary phenotype of North Africans especially across the Sahara going back 10,000 years ago when it was wet. And it is the Sahara where ancient Berber culture originates not along the coasts of the Mediterranean.
And no, Sheshonq was not an Amazigh as there is no proof that he spoke a Berber language. He part of the tribes of ancient Libya called Meshwesh but there is no evidence of what language they spoke. And it has always been implied that because they are depicted with light skin, they represent the origin of Berber language and culture, which again is false. They are just an ancient coastal population who happened to be lighter skinned but are not the origin of Berber languages and culture.
100% agree with yoj
Correct
@@kazRivers2 it's not
@@shafsteryellow whats not correct ?
Why would you leave out the Vandel's?
The Vandals did not leave much of a genetic footprint. They were an extremely small minority and most were deported after the Byzantine conquest.
Berbers, Ce Sont Originaire Grand Familles Tourque Touranienne, la Familles Tourque Touranienne, Ce Sont Montagnard, Nomade, et Amozonienne. Voila la Familles Tourque Touranienne. Tatares, Scyhtes, la Sibèrie, Sarmates, Mongol, Mançour,Tounguz, Ainu, Guril, Kore, Ougro Finnios, Lapon, Maori, Odin, Caucase, Basque, Bèrberes, Assam, Indus Valles, Dravidienne, Bengal, Urdu, Nepal, Tibet, Bhutan, Huns, Avar, Khazar, Alan, Souryas ou Tourcoman, Celtique, Etrusque, Birman, Siam, Laos, Joung, Khmer, Malez, etc. la Familles Tourque Touraanienne, Ce Sont Parentè et Mix Population. Merci Beaucoup. Mes Frère.
White skin originated in Central Asia, 10,000 to 8,000 years ago [8,000 to 6,000 BC].
There is no way that these people, with European or Central Asian phenotypes, are products of indigenous developments of the African geography and climate.
Their phenotype would not have developed without admixture or in some instances, complete replacement, by people bearing phenotypes that originated in more recent times in Central Asia.
They may bear indigenous haplogroups, such as yDNA E, but that doesnt change the fact that they no longer reflect the image of the True Indigenous people of North Africa.
Look at the mummy of Uan Muhuggiag, found in Libya. The mummified child is an indigenous black African.
It is not until we get closer to the period of the Bronze Age Collapse that "white people" in the context of North Africa begin to be portrayed in recorded history.
These "Libyans" depicted in Egyptian Art are likely related to the Sea Peoples from the Mediterranean or even further north.
Again, not indigenous to Africa.
This is completely false, the fair skin mutation in Western Eurasians specifically is 22,000-28,000 years old, and just because a paleolithic population lacked the mutation, does not mean you would be or look like a Black Africans.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Light_skin
@@gamalnassertv Anybody 22,000-28,000 years would like like black africans. No other races existed back then,only blacks.
basic database nile valley studies zarahan quote-
Both skeletal/cranial and DNA studies by other authors confirm that some Neolithics did not derive from the Near East. They most likely resembled African populations. Hence comparisons using older European Neolithics versus Africans are comparisons with older prehistoric Europeans who looked more like Africans, than modern 'white' Europeans, as shown by Brace (2005), and Hanihara (1996) also, who states "Early West Asians looked like Africans."
"The absence of mtDNA haplogroup J in the ancient Portuguese Neolithic sample suggests that this population was not derived directly from Near Eastern farmers. The Mesolithic and Neolithic groups show genetic discontinuity implying colonisation at the Neolithic transition in Portugal." (CHANDLER, H.; SYKES, B.; ZILHÃO, J. (2005) - Using ancient DNA to examine genetic continuity at the Mesolithic-Neolithic transition in Portugal, in ARIAS, P.; ONTAÑÓN, R.; GARCÍA-MONCÓ, C. (eds.) - «Actas del III Congreso del Neolítico en la Península Ibérica», Santander, Monografías del Instituto Internacional de Investigaciones Prehistóricas de Cantabria 1, p. 781-786.)
"Early Europeans still resembled modern tropical peoples - some resemble modern Australian and Africans, more than modern Europeans.. Nor does the picture get any clearer when we move on to the Cro-Magnons, the presumed ancestors of modern Europeans. Some were more like present-day Australians or Africans, judged by objective anatomical observations." (Christopher Stringer, Robin McKie (1998). African Exodus. Macmillan, p. 162)
Source
egyptsearchreloaded basic database nile valley studies
Then there is this.
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African peoples are the most diverse in the world whether analyzed by
DNA or skeletal or cranial methods. The peoples of the Nile Valley
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Simplistic "race percentage" models are dubious in Africa which has
the highest genetic diversity in the world. That diversity proceeded
from deeper sub-Saharan Africa, to East and N.E. Africa, then to the
rest of the globe. All other populations, including Europeans and
"Middle easterners" carry this diversity which was built into Africa
to begin with. Africans thus don't need any "race mix" to look
different. Their diversity is built-in and supplied the whole globe.
Any returnees or "backflow" to Africa looked like Africans, including
Europeans. (Brace 2005, Hanihara 1996, Holliday 2003).
and quote-
African people have a range of physical variation and don't need
inspiration or mixes from cold-climate/light skinned Europeans or
Asiatics to explain why. Features like narrow noses, thin lips, height
etc are all indigenous to Africa. Africa has both the highest
phenotypic diversity and the highest genetic diversity in the world
and don’t need cold-climate/light skin inspiration for that
established fact. All cold-climate/light skinned Europeans and
Asiatics are SUBSETS of original African diversity. Modern DNA studies
find even though some African peoples look different, they are
genetically related through the PN2 transition clade of the
Y-chromosome. Thus light-skinned African Libyans and dark-skinned
Zulus are all genetically related Africans, even though they don't
look exactly the same. (Keita 2004; Tishkoff 2002, Ely et al, 2006,
Stevanovitch 2004)
This below was from youtube comment section correcting someone in a video.
SuperBunnyman1 quote-
Let me get your brother some facts as a person who studied genetics and as a microbiologist by trade I can emphatically tell you that you guys don't know what you're talking about I'm sorry Brothers skin color has nothing to do with interracial mixing so-called black people are the most genetically diverse people on the planet all people come from black people I hope your brothers understand that there is something called natural variation and genetic diversity so basically you can come from a line of people who are very very very very very dark skin and due to genetic diversity you'll eventually come up with a child who is lighter then their ancestors that person may be very very light complexion to where they almost look white or they could be caramel complexion there was a case in Nigeria where a couple married couple had twins one twin came out dark the other twin came out with blonde hair and blue eyes and look white they did a DNA test and both the mother and father are the biological parents this is something that happens more often than you realize there is a whole tribe in Africa I can't remember the name of the tribe they have never been with Europeans and the whole tribe has blonde hair and blue eyes and they are extremely light complected and they have no European ancestry another perfect example I myself am a light skinned brother I have no European ancestry I am a descendant of slaves but fortunately my ancestors were not sexually abused or exploited by the slave owner the only people that are light skinned in my family is my mother and my grandmother and on my father's side is just him no one else is light complected in my immediate family they're all dark or light brown and when I ran my DNA I have no European ancestry so your brothers need to look up some books on genetics
They are one of the most beautiful woman in Africa, but you can't find out because they wear too large close and hide their faces 😂❤
Misinformed research. The real indigenous north Africans are very very black. The Maure, Tebu, Nubians, Siwa Egyptians, Sa'hidi Egyptians, Haratin, Umuhagh, Zanaga and their ancestors were all Black as shown on the 11 yo rock paintings ect ect.These people as you pointed out have a lot of Arab or European admixture, despite the indigenous genetic markers. STR loci would look deeper than genetic markers and easily reveal this fact. Very light(aka white) skin is not indigenous/autochthonous to any part Africa, it is from central Asia. Light (white)skin genes SLC45A2 and SLC24 A5 came from central Asia, and spread all over the world in migrations starting 8000 years ago. These are genes that people inherit via sexual selection, so it is an inherited Asiatic feature from central Asia. Due to back migrations for over 5000 years, anyone in Africa can display a certain amount of the gene mutation activation, creating unique skin shades of light, light brown, brown, and dark brown skin tones of black phenotypes. So it's not an adaptation. North Africans have that most of this gene, from very recent admixtures hence being white. YDNA haplo group E, an indigenous African group. MTDNA haplo group L, is indigenous to Africa. The Anatolian farmers have ancestry from east Africa prior to 15k BC. The Maure tribe still look like horners. So they are a culture/linguistic group only.
His research is poorly done, I cant even take this video serious. He doesnt even know history and science. The Allels for white skin SLC24A5 came to western Europe during the bronze age and that was about 5,000 yr ago, Berbers are older than 20,000 yr and are native to Africa, so how the hell are the original Berbers light skin or white skin? Someone explain that
The people that founded Marrakesh in Mororoco were black men that came from the southern Mauritania and Senegal. The founders are not even from the northern parts of africa, I have reliable academic sources.
You just named some populations that are not even "Black", majority of those are also heavily admixed with West Asians, and not all even related to each other by population history. Not only that, but you are also wrong about the age and coalescence of the light skin mutation, which is 22,000-28,000 years old! Go and read the 'Light skin' article in full and update your information! East Asians for instance have a completely different mutations/alleles for their depigmentation evolution.
Tariq was a Berber. But he was black skinned.
You cannot be Indigenous to Africa if you are not what we would consider a Black African. Lighter skin colors than what we deem the Black race are mutations of dark skin, which is older, especially in modern humans. Whiteness in modern humans is believed to have originated in the Turkey, Pakistan, India region and is a relatively new mutation. White North Africans or pale skin North Africans are a result of breeding out Blackness, import of White slaves, Arab and European conquest and migration.
All indigenous Africans are not black....look at the San tribe
@@freshinc1750 Well no one is Black by skin color. Black is the classified race and yes the San are considered Black by race. All Black people are Brown by skin color. The Black race has a skin tone spectrum and the San people are actually on the mid to dark range of the spectrum.
@@freshinc1750but yes all Indigenous Africans are classified as Black by race.
@@freshinc1750all native africans are black period do u want to debate?
@@kazRivers2Im from Salinas central coast California & I took Ancestry DNA & got 54% Indigenous Americas Mexico Leòn Guanajuato Uto Aztecan and Jalisco Huicol and only 1% Indigenous South americas andean/incan
17% Spain
8% Northern Africa Morocco
5% Cameroon Congo
3% Basque
2% Jewish
2% Senegal
1% Mali
1% Nigeria
1% Arabian peninsula
1% Baltics
1% Portugal
1% Wales
the person of this channel is not black African
Putting photoshopped photo of a woman to sexually lure men 😂
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Not Native. You wish stop lying
It's native you could check back on history if u want
😂😂😂 we are native you munkey. you are the descendants of slaves in the America's. We not. We the ones who enslaved your ancestors.
Do they have music festival ?
I'm sure they do!
Indigenous white in Africa?
Is that a joke?
This people are settlers from the Caucasus mountain, how can they be indigenous to any part of Africa?
It is like say Anglo are indigenous of the Americas, this is just crazy.
And for those who didn't know, Arabs and Berbers were still trading black African slave in the 1900s, and ironically it was the European colonial powers who put an alt to it.
Other facts that might interest black people, the word they use to defined black people in their languages is the same as slave.
They don't even originate from the Caucas mountains that too is a lie they made up because they wanted to be apart of the Abrhamic religions.
@katalinawhite1524 take out the "Black DNA" they don't exist. Without "Black" DNA there are no humans. Despite all the pharsing genetic research papers do, what they do not explicitly emphasize is that humans are 98-99% the same genetically overall and that 98-99% originate from Black/ Sub-Saharan Africans.
100% agree
Two words capsian civilization which it was proto berber
There is no evidence to support the theory that the white race originated in the Caucasus. This theory is nothing more than a baseless invention of an 18th century anthropologist, who formulated it because he thought Georgians were beautiful.
Europe
Original Berber are dark skins people. Why can't you guys know true history...
1 part Anatolian farmer, 1 part near eastern, 1 part recent European, only 1 part African. One out of four.
Berbers are a bit lke the British, who these days are all the colours of the rainbow.
The indigenous british people are white I'm white English/British. Those who are not white came over here from India, and Africa their DNA will be Indian or African.
The geography of Africa does not define its blackness. People did not change colour, or features, soon as stepping off the continent. Races were evolving as they moved north, west and south from central Africa, family groups breaking off, moving away and taking their genetics with them. These became new races. African races were diverse long before crossing into Eurasia. North Africa and the Middle East were never ‘subsaharan African’.
Hannibal was not ‘Negroid’, (to use an objectionable word).
original amazigh are red people.
Color and race has everything to do with how people evolve and adapt to the climate and the environment you live in, if you live near the equator you’ll find that people are darker and will get lighter the further you stray away from the equator. So when you go to Mali and see the twaregh people they have more of a subsaharienne look but as you get to the Mediterranean, you’ll see more lighter features.
Hell no😂 hell no no
Thay ar mix ethiopian and arab
No
No just Invaders
No they are not.
Nahh I'm not buying it! 👎🏾
Same here
Facts don't care, DNA destroys you!
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurasian_backflow
Not real Africans
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Just Rasits