Flying the TBM 850: Family Vacation from San Antonio, Texas to Marco Island, Florida
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 11 ก.ค. 2024
- Join my family as we fly the TBM 850 from San Antonio, TX (5C1) to Marco Island, FL (MKY). Yes, traveling with kids is hectic, but I am grateful to have an awesome copilot wife that always keeps the "cabin" under control...
As a Cirrus pilot/owner, it's a game changer having the pressurization and capabilities of a turbine aircraft such as the TBM. I share this video to inspire all aviators looking to step up their flying!
Thank you for watching, and feel free to reach out for any suggestions, comments or questions!
CHAPTERS
0:00 - Dramatic Music, Departure 5C1
0:53 - Passenger Briefing Like a Boss
1:58 - Approach into MKY
2:38 - Vacation Time - On the Beach
3:35 - Cleared via "Shark Route"
4:25 - Using Onboard Weather Radar
4:56 - Seatbelt STC for Daher TBM
6:04 - Dramatic Music - Here Come the Bumps
6:35 - Landing 5C1
6:57 - Controlling Spouse?
7:35 - Shutdown & Adios!
The History of Socata TBM (now Daher TBM)
The SOCATA TBM (now Daher TBM) is a family of high-performance single-engine turboprop manufactured by Daher. It was originally collaboratively developed between the American Mooney Airplane Company and French light aircraft manufacturer SOCATA. In fact, "TB" stands for Tarbes, France where Socata was located, and "M" stands for, you guessed it - Mooney!
The design of the TBM family originates from the Mooney 301, a comparatively low-powered and smaller prototype Mooney developed in the early 1980s. Following Mooney's acquisition by French owners, Mooney and SOCATA started a joint venture for the purpose of developing and manufacturing a new, enlarged turboprop design, which was designated as the TBM 700. Upon its entry onto the market in 1990, it was the first high-performance single-engine passenger/cargo aircraft to enter production.
Shortly after launch, the TBM 700 was a market success, which led to the production of multiple variants and improved models, often incorporating more powerful engines and new avionics. The TBM 850 is the production name assigned to the TBM 700N, an improved version of the aircraft powered by a single Pratt & Whitney PT6A-66D. In March 2014, an aerodynamically refined version of the TBM 700N, marketed as the TBM 900, then the 910 with standard G1000 NXi. The 930 arrived by 2016 with the G3000 flight deck, which was replaced by the 940 with autothrottles and autoland in 2019. As a crescendo in 2022, the magnificant TBM 960 has arrived, with the Fadec-controlled PT6E-66XT P&W engine (5,000 TBO). Daher TBM has become a powerhouse in business and personal aviation, around the globe with these impressively performing aircraft.
If anyone has any questions on the TBM, aircraft ownership, or purchasing your first plane (to include a high performance pistons like a Cirrus), I'd love to hear from you, as my full time job is brokering aircraft at Mason Amelia. Feel free to reach out to me, and please subscribe, like, and share.
Thanks for watching. Enjoy!
-Jesse
#daher #dahertbm #tbm #tbm850
The rest of the family does not seem to have the same level of enthusiasm as the pilot. Awesome video!
…the way it is 🤷♂️ 🙃😕. Thanks for checking the video out!
@@LookingforHigher Great video! You should let wifey sit in the back with the kids, she doesn’t deserve (or seem interested in) the co-pilot seat.
Living the dream that I have each and every time I fly commercial! Inspires me to keep working hard and great to see your achievement. Nice plane and family!
Thanks for watching and the kind words, Tom. I claim the family, but only a lease/flying gig with the plane. I'm a Cirrus owner actually. Are you a pilot?
Your announcements are spot on captain! Awesome video 😊
Haha, can’t take myself too seriously. Thanks, Holly!
Love the captain announcement!
Thank you!
Ha! Been at the Marco FBO a few times when I was building hours. Nice little place that is. Thanks for sharing.
When we’re you last there? My first time, and that terminal building looked pretty new!
yes good vidéo and many thanks for sharing
Thank you.
Great vid!!
Ha ha ha, what a dramatic music man !!! Good video :)
Thank you!
Wow!you dd superb shots-Jesse. ✨
Thank you for that. I appreciate you watching my video.
The announcements had me dying
Haha, thanks. Glad you knew I was going for some laughs. Pretty damn cheesy…
@@LookingforHigher Next time I go up in the SR22, I'm going to try and pull that with my wife
That is one great airplane
It’s a phenomenal airplane! I enjoy flying it every chance that I can get.
My Sister has a really nice Condo in Marco. I wish I could get down there more often. I like the restaurants in Goodland!
There's always gliders screwing around....story of my life lol.
Exactly!
Hadn’t seen this one yet, but my grandfather owns a condo on Marco, I go down there every year with him.
Thanks for watching my video!
@@LookingforHigher NP, I'd love to meet up sometime when I move down to Comfort.
Bro thats an awsome vidoe
Thanks for checking this out!
Nice video man! I love flying! I am down here in Brownsville, TX. Man if you ever fly to South Padre let me know! I really wanna fly!
Thanks for watching my video, Aaron. I get down to your neck of the woods occasionally. I have a Cirrus video that I'll be putting together flying into McAllen soon. Keep in touch!
Nice
Thanks for watching, Mel!
Very nice. As a retired airline Captain, I’m very jealous.
Do you fly GA? I regular them Cirrus, and I love the automation mgmt, reminds me of my days flying the RJ’s.
I was always taught to keep my hand behind throttle on takeoff.
Kurt,
Thanks a lot for watching my video! I'm not sure your level of flight experience, so being thorough with my response.
That is indeed a very good practice, not to have an unintended "roll back" of power. Flying lighter planes, Cessna, Mooney, Cirrus, you should basically trim the plane for it to rotate with a touch of back pressure.
The Meridians, TBM, jets, are normally heavy, a two hand event, especially with varying CGs. Hopefully you trimmed appropriately too...
Regardless, in the TBM or a twin jet, I guard the power levers until I'm at V1 (takeoff decision speed) or VR in a single for abort. Otherwise, passing V1/VR respectively, we're flying after that!
Whoa, what an incredible plane to own and fly yourself! How awesome. And here I am just trying to figure out if I can one day afford a used SR22. Be well and thanks for the video. I have some videos on my page if you are interested.
Zach,
The SR22 is a fantastic machine that is my daily driver. Congrats on possibly becoming an owner. I’m a broker for the largest Cirrus reseller, Aerista. Feel free to reach out.
I manage this aircraft, which builds my proficiency and do some dry leasing myself… So, at the end of the day we’re both “slumming it” in the SR22 - not bad!!
@@LookingforHigher I love the Cirrus (20 and 22). I've also been giving a serious look at the new 182 and 182T.
Could I ask, how does the dry leasing work? That's another opportunity that I have been looking into. If e-mail is better, I am happy to reach out that way.
@@zacharynorman397 shoot me a text or email. My info is on aerista.com 's contact page.
Hey love when the family goes and my bride would be telling me the same thing about getting out of the bumpy ride but there is nothing can be done but to getting lower depending on the winds at the altitude
Hey Bernie,
You totally get it! She loves being with me, but is not a flyer at heart. We hit a good gust layer for the final 6k’ of the trip.
just WOW !
What a life !!
My life is on a complete different level.😂
I am a hard working man put out my ass to work every morning at 5 am.
(not to say You are not ! Dont get me wrong!)
I enjoy every minute of your videos and wish you and your sweet family all the best from the heart!
Fun fact : I discovered your channel because i am a big fan of this TBM Aircraft in MSFS 😂
Cheers mate 🍻! Have a good life!
Love from Germany!🍻👍🏻
Ingo,
Thanks for watching. I summed up your comment as: love, cheers, and beer from Germany - THANK YOU! Yes, I am blessed. Should I humble myself, and admit I am a Cirrus owner, and the TBM is a part time flying gig, and some personal leasing?! By the way, RC planes and MSFS were my tipping point to keep on going!
Humble roots, military service, and didn't get my first German car until I was 30 :) May I ask what industry of work you're in?
Tschüss!
@@LookingforHigher HAHa😂👍🏻
Thank you so much for answering my comment! i appreciate that !!!
Believe it or not...i am a musician and before covid comes around i could live my life and pay all the costs just by doing my thing:
Giving guitar lessons to people (mostly), playing live in clubs, do some studio jobs etc..
Now in 2022 i am a warehouse worker with minimum wage...but music is what i am and i am looking forward to better times...
@@Herringomann To be fair a TBM can never be afforded on any budget that comes from a "per hour" basis, only from income generated from investments of any kind.
To run a TBM in Europe you definitely need 120+ k€ per year before capital cost. That said of course there are other options. I guess only very few TBMs are owned by individuals.
Yepp. It is a lot more stressful to have kids but at the same time it is a lot more fun! I rarely fly anywhere without my wife and son. I mean, we belong together, don't we...
Now my wife is taking her own flying lessons and since she is flying such a tiny airplane (BR23) she says that turbulence in the Malibu feels a lot more comfortable (probably due to the yaw damper). No complaints :)
Rainer,
Thanks for checking this video out. We’re normally flying a Cirrus around; so, my wife has nothing to complain about in the TBM, right?
That’s pretty awesome that your wife is taking lessons. My wife, Melissa, “keeps her distance.” My family isn’t typically with me, considering the majority of my flying is for work. However, the Malibu is a family cruiser. We have had some enjoyable PA46 flights in our past as well. I bet yours loves it!
@@LookingforHigher I really like the Malibu. Only problem with it is, that many turboprops don't really feel like a "step up". The Silver Eagle sure is cool but not FIKI and not a single knot faster. The Jetprop sure is faster but lacks the range (as the SE) and the payload. The Meridian has the payload but that comes with low range and very limited climb/takeoff performance. Only if your thoughts reach the TBM you finally find a plane that has about the same range as the Malibu, more payload depending on the version - and the great performance. Only problem is that the cost are about 250% of the Malibu. But we will see where the world economy is going.
I see it as some kind of rally. Will I first have the money or will my wife first make her instrument and HPA rating, haha.
Anyway even now it feels pretty good when she knows what I am talking about, when I reference density altitude for instance. You know what I mean. Makes us feel even more connected - if that is possible after 20 years ;-) And when my son builds lego airplanes I hear him using my callsign for them already when he calls his lego tower - cute :)
would love to catch a trip. i work for american in san antonio
Loved it . . . still in the "SLOW-LANE" flying a 182 . . . BUT?????
G1000 182's are pretty sweet.
@@LookingforHigher
For now….would love to step up like you did!
Nice plane, beautiful family. If that was a leased plane, you kept it very slow for a TBM 850 . I saw between 175 & 185 kts. .
... that's 175/185 indicated @ FL310, just to be clear. Certainly not setting any speed records, but still >= 300 TAS.
Yep, spot on Markus. The air is thinner and IAS is less.
195 KIAS is about the fastest straight/level you’ll get, but normally 305+ KIAS around FL260
TBM the best owner flown plane available IMO. I own and fly N5KP and others claim I should go to a jet. No way. Staying with the TBM.
Tim, thanks for checking out my video. Your plane is AWESOME! We copied your 900 series paint scheme when repainting this one. I agree with you. It's really a great all around plane. While it's meant for the long legs, it's fairly economical on the short ones too, whereas you'd get eaten alive in a light jet.
I'm currently debating a Phenom 100 or TBM 700 for 2024. I'm an ex airline captain with thousands of hours in turboprops and jets. I love the lower operating costs of the TBM, no type rating, lower insurance, I'm an A&P myself so I can save here and there on little stuff like tire changes etc. With the phenom, I can go up to 410, doesn't burn much more jet a(250lbs per side), already have the type rating, smoother ride, True Airspeed isn't much higher. I feel as though I'd be able to dry lease the phenom more attractively than the tbm. Theres a lot of demand where I live.
Overlapping missions, but different for sure! Give me a ring next week if you’d like to discuss my experience.
Merry Christmas!
Do you own the TBM, Lease or do Fractional Ownership? Also if you’re paying for the maintenance what have your A+,B+,C+ and Hot Inspection been- and what is your insurance costing you? I’m thinking of jumping into the TBM game.
I have managed and now do some dry leasing for my personal use in this 850. It’s an amazing plane to put it lightly, and I’d certainly recommend the plane if your missions match its capabilities.
I have some personal travels upcoming, but please text me at (210) 882-9658, and I’d love to go through the cost of ownership. You may have noticed that I specialize in the brokerage of owner flown aircraft. I’d be happy to have a chat.
hi Jesse .how are you doing today.i am upgrading from cirrus sr22t to tbm850 with 350 hours flight time.is it really hard to go forward?
That’s an awesome transition ahead for you! While, the PA46 would be a more of an incremental step, moving straight into the TBM is certainly doable. Don’t be concerned if insurance requires ~ 50 hrs of mentor, dual training… You’ll, be ready conquer the world!
Please keep in touch, very excited for you.
I'm in the same boat with 390 hours wanting to upgrade from a DA62 (1st plane....I know, I did it the hard way) to a faster turbo prop (M600, TBM, C90, B200, PC12, and Piaggio are all on the list). What has your experience been with insurance? I plan to lease for charter and that has been the catch.
@@brettswanson4452 Wow, that's a hell of a climb up the ladder...skipping a few rungs! If you were just buying the, e.g M600/TBM for personal use, insurance would be a reasonable ~ 2% of hull (given your experience, pretty good). The complex time really helps. If you're putting it in a dry lease program, those rates will escalate quickly. If it's in a charter op, the charter company would may be able to provide the insurance, and you dispatch it part 91 for your personal flying - may be possible.
Like the glasses! What brand? I couldn't quite make out the red letters.
Hey, Paul - Thanks! I wanted something alternative to all the pilot Ray Bans I normally wear… These:
www.eyespecs.com/Prada-Men-s-Linea-Rossa-SPS01T-SPS-01T-Fashion-Square-Sunglasses-531479330.html?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI6-LK6MjX-AIVW2xvBB02FwHjEAQYCCABEgJn0vD_BwE
in 1:45 cruising 317 not true in ease 😁
“not true in ease” What do you mean?
90 kits on final is that ideal ?
Hi Roger,
Yes, 90 KIAS is a good short final approach speed for the TBM. You can certainly truck it in at 120 KIAS + if you're in busy airspace, but with a 65 stall speed and those huge slotted fowler flaps, you can slow her way on down.
Jesse how do you like the TBM vs the Piper Turbo prop 600 ?
The Meridian/M600 is the ultimate family machine with manageable operating costs. The TBM is the work horse with zero compromises… at a pretty penny. If you maintain the TBM to Daher’s phase inspections, you find 15% more speed for at lease 50% more costs.
I prefer the TBMs ground and turbulent air handling, but M series is a great all around ride! Not, my experience is mainly in the Meridian, little in M600.
@@LookingforHigher That's new(er) to new pricing though. An older TBM700 costs a lot less than an M600... and when flown less than 200h/year I think you'll have a lot of catching up to do on maintenance costs differentials. I was lucky though, got my '99 700B at 1800h with a fresh HSI and 10 year inspection, so hopefully the Dec inspection won't be too bad.
How many planes do you have?
Thanks for watching, Michael! I currently own a Cirrus. The TBM is my new “lease on life” and I manage it too.
@@LookingforHigher nice bud.
Pretty Sure I spotted a Raptor in the background?
Nope, close but try again!
Can u please share the operating cost
Hi, Ehsan. Thanks for watching my video. If you factor in airframe and engine reserves, it’s about $700/dry. Fuel averages, 60 GPH factoring in climb. Call it $1,000/hr all in. Loan not factored in.
@@LookingforHigher ouch, that’s expensive. Congrats to being able to afford that 😊. I have a cheaper deal, my costs are $0/hour operating costs, and around $350 one time starting costs. Thanks god for Microsoft Flight Simulator 😉
@@Utube2Itube All the greats have enjoyed MSFS! Haha, you had me there…
Thanks for checking my videos out.
I have to wear headphones to hear the video because I work in a noisy environment. Your choice of music hurts my ears with the sharp banging rhythm so I can't subscribe to your channel. Sorry!
That hurts! This is actually all royalty free music, but tried my best. Fast forward beyond the intro, think it's pretty slick, house beats. At any rate, thanks for checking it out. - Jesse