I had this same idea, upgrading to pit bike forks. the links to the collars dont work any more but at least i know they exist and my idea is doable! thanks for the video
I had to come back to this video but I finally got around to building my minibike. I used those collars just like you used but I got a set of xr200 forks, using the collars was a great idea!
This build is what I've always what I wanted to do with a mini bike! Don't know if anyone's mentioned it yet but that extra bushing in the front pulley of the stock torque converter is probably a governor.
Fram use to be a high standard for filters, then they got cheap and put less filtration in. Wix, Honeywell, etc are better filters than what Fram makes now.
When you design the rear swing arm, get the swing arm pivot as close as possible to the jack shaft for proper chain tension during swing arm travel. At 1/2 suspension compression the jack shaft center line, swing arm pivot and rear axle pivot should all be in a straight line. That way your chain will have equal tension at full extension and full compression of the swing arm. (Ideally, use the jack shaft position for the swing arm pivot).
The bike i put together has a full suspension. the rear shock is vary stiff but even having a small movement that can happen on the rear tire makes it ride vary smooth.
That engine's spark & fuel management is basically just a fuel-pump, and air-inlet temperature sensor and injector away from being a EFI system. I might be omitting the manifold-vacuum/barometric sensor, but you get the idea.
Very impressive build. I can't wait to see it completed. Love these videos and seeing how you guys continue to grow. Merry Christmas Red Beard, Mrs, baby boy, lonnie, brother etc etc. God bless and peace out bruh
Love you red beards garage and family Merry Christmas and a happy New Year's to you and your family and your coworkers I always have y'all in my thoughts and prayers your friend Keith from Asheville North Carolina
Awesome build you got goin on here excited to see how tall it is in the end it looks like a literal monster mini bike have a merry Christmas God bless!!!
You know what would be sweet? Well you know we can get a predator for like 100 bucks but it would be pretty cool if we could get one that is just parts that you have to build for like 50 bucks. You get to learn how an engine works and people like you and me would have a awesome time building it. And like iv said before if a company could make a common man priced transmission for the predator that would be glorious. And dangerous...
I’m a faber and spend my life in my shop when not at work wrenching so how do I get samples n such to build stuff like this cause I’m really really jealous of your life right now! Anyways you kill it and if ever up in the North west specifically North Idaho (bout 40miles to Canada Aaaa) bring some bikes to ride the trails up here, they never end up here! But really by far my favorite channel!
Hey can I ask why get rid of the original motor and not building it. I got the same motor and would like to build it but am new to building. Wheres the best place to get parts for the original lifan?
Red beard. You guys make awesome videos. I was hoping you would do a video about wiring a light on mini bike using a voltage regulator like what came on the 212 monster Moto.
I just bought this bike for my son how can I make it solid .... he is about 90lbs so he doesn't need much for go just want to keep her running for my the big man.
This is going to be a sweet build..... But I'm curious are there no mlds/upgrades for the stock engine liel there are for the predetor, or are they universal?
Where can I find this engine to buy? I’m just getting excited because of the electronics! Finially I can tune my mini how I want to the T! Oh and Fram filters are the most dangerous thing you could ever do to any oil system cause they are a paper filter and they will break up and kill an engine and that’s fact! Another awesome video guys! I’m still haveing trouble finding front suspension for my fully custom Coleman ct200u that’s running a Nibbi26mm and all the goodies you can do to a Honda clone! I want this engine your doing in this video! I do diesel tuning and build Cummins engines!
I know these are recommend max rider weight of 200 lbs, how would you think it would do??? Is it just going to smoke the TQ converter belt constantly? Or do you think I'd be ok but just would see a little faster wear on the belt? Is the frame strong enough for 300 lbs?
I bought the Mega Moto Max and bought a front suspension for the Monster Moto pro and apparently the Monster Moto has larger fork bearings and the center of mine are to small to fit triple tree No Refunds on these parts do you have any idea what I can do to make it work?
A lot's happened since 2018, with Monster Moto disappearing and Coleman's RB200 taking many of the '212's designs. I'd be interested in adding a hydro disc brake to the front of mine if the Monster Moto parts would swap over. The Monster Moto brake lever looks like a match to the rear one the RB200 has, but I don't know if the forks would fit. Gotta have that caliper mounting flange and whatever else is needed to add the disc to the wheel. If anyone has any insight to that I'd appreciate it please. Thanks.
Been watching you for awhile. Got a question for you. I want to stage 1 a 79cc predator on a trike bicycle, but I want to run propane as my fuel. I know it decreases power. Which is but how would you hook it all up?
11:30 you really shouldn’t have your ground connected to the crankshaft. Run a chance for the internals to arc together and cause accelerated engine wear. RIP main bearings
Taking a simple engine design and making it so complicated that you have to have an AST certification to work on the thing and a big pocket book.. Why a O2 sensor and position. Sensor.....
*ASE and it's not really that complicated. There's other pure mechanical choices still available, but this kind of thing is going to be the future. Without electronic controls, cars as we know it wouldn't exist today. All the tin foil hatter "100mpg carburetor" nonsense in the world couldn't even come remotely close to meeting emissions and CAFE standards the fedfuckers put into law right now.
@@elesjuan I've built many carburated V8 engines that used no electronics other than a HEI distributor, and although not 100mpg, I could easily get 30 mpg in a 3,400 lb car with 3.73 gears that ran 13's in the quarter and they weren't smog monsters. These computers in today's cars are barely worth the trouble. But they do make it easy to boost with turbo/supercharger, but at the cost of reliability. There's always a sensor gone bad or some problem a good mechanic can't diagnose without a computer/scanner.
Awesome channel and I love your vids, it would be even better if you shortened videos and maybe cut out some of the dry footage in your videos to make them short but sweet.
if i get a monster moto I would awsome performace stages on the regular engine not swap it then put awsome design like the Evel Knevel motorcycle colors and plus swap the sprocket and that would be my dream of stunt daredevil
I am getting one of does pretty soon I just don’t know witch day do my mom is getting me a mega max 212cc dirt bike and she says she disent know either but she knows cause I now it I think it’s a surprise I think it might be on my birthday but I’m not shure so I’ll have too just sit home every single day and wait and see
Fram uses a cardboard separator on the bottom where other brands use metal ones. We all know what happens when you soak cardboard.. I used to use fram until I watched a video comparing them to "cheaper" ones.
Tip, do not hook your welding ground to the crankshaft. Arcing can occur through the bearings in the motor with the high amperage.
Never have thought about that but makes sense
I had this same idea, upgrading to pit bike forks. the links to the collars dont work any more but at least i know they exist and my idea is doable! thanks for the video
Sweet this looks awesome. the trailmasters,are sick can't wait too see the comparison
I had to come back to this video but I finally got around to building my minibike. I used those collars just like you used but I got a set of xr200 forks, using the collars was a great idea!
Y'all got some of the best garage humor 🎉😂
This build is what I've always what I wanted to do with a mini bike! Don't know if anyone's mentioned it yet but that extra bushing in the front pulley of the stock torque converter is probably a governor.
Fram use to be a high standard for filters, then they got cheap and put less filtration in. Wix, Honeywell, etc are better filters than what Fram makes now.
@Deer Gut Yep. Cardboard bypass.
instablaster.
The links for the collars is no good anymore. Is there a new link to purchase these? Thanks and great channel!
When you design the rear swing arm, get the swing arm pivot as close as possible to the jack shaft for proper chain tension during swing arm travel. At 1/2 suspension compression the jack shaft center line, swing arm pivot and rear axle pivot should all be in a straight line. That way your chain will have equal tension at full extension and full compression of the swing arm.
(Ideally, use the jack shaft position for the swing arm pivot).
That is going to be Awesome in the trails.You are such a great team.Merry Christmas to you and your family,and to all the Fans here too.
Fire up that Shredder motor. That thing is RAD!!!!!!
Please finish these MM builds. Great bikes!
Looking good. This one is going to be a comfy ride. I live near dtv shredder in mississauga Canada.
there you go!!!! fabricate and create. Looking good, thanks for sharing!
The bike i put together has a full suspension. the rear shock is vary stiff but even having a small movement that can happen on the rear tire makes it ride vary smooth.
Nice job Red Beard! Thought I'd mention the steel ring over the bronze bushing in stock driver is a speed limiting ring.
I might have welded those around collars underneath the triple trees for extra support & safety, but it probly wont break
Turbo for sure
Nice bet it rides like a Cadillac, I'm gonna make rear suspension on my motorized bike soon and can't wait to rip it around!
Hope you and your family have a safe and merry Christmas. God bless
That engine's spark & fuel management is basically just a fuel-pump, and air-inlet temperature sensor and injector away from being a EFI system. I might be omitting the manifold-vacuum/barometric sensor, but you get the idea.
Great idea for the lock collars! I've been contemplating how to make the same triple clamp with the same forks.
Happy Holidays!
Very impressive build. I can't wait to see it completed. Love these videos and seeing how you guys continue to grow. Merry Christmas Red Beard, Mrs, baby boy, lonnie, brother etc etc. God bless and peace out bruh
Love you red beards garage and family Merry Christmas and a happy New Year's to you and your family and your coworkers I always have y'all in my thoughts and prayers your friend Keith from Asheville North Carolina
Can you build a homemade brake dyno to measure horsepower??
That would be neat
Awesome build you got goin on here excited to see how tall it is in the end it looks like a literal monster mini bike have a merry Christmas God bless!!!
You know what would be sweet? Well you know we can get a predator for like 100 bucks but it would be pretty cool if we could get one that is just parts that you have to build for like 50 bucks. You get to learn how an engine works and people like you and me would have a awesome time building it. And like iv said before if a company could make a common man priced transmission for the predator that would be glorious. And dangerous...
Thanks. Going to be a nice setup.
I’m a faber and spend my life in my shop when not at work wrenching so how do I get samples n such to build stuff like this cause I’m really really jealous of your life right now! Anyways you kill it and if ever up in the North west specifically North Idaho (bout 40miles to Canada Aaaa) bring some bikes to ride the trails up here, they never end up here! But really by far my favorite channel!
did you guys notice the big valves and round ports on the stock megamoto engines? I'm building one with a rattler cam and big compression
Hey can I ask why get rid of the original motor and not building it. I got the same motor and would like to build it but am new to building. Wheres the best place to get parts for the original lifan?
Oh Yea, going to look great.
JACKWAGONS RULE!
I am happy to be one of your subs ribe man you make awesome stuff
Red beard. You guys make awesome videos. I was hoping you would do a video about wiring a light on mini bike using a voltage regulator like what came on the 212 monster Moto.
tithe way you built the you built the triple clamps it looks like they should be on a three wheeler
Ive seen those rings on gy6 scooters. They limit how far the pulley can move to limit top speed.
Yep
Sweet.Thnx for the heads up.
I wonder if the Honda monkey shocks would be a direct swap out for the mm212 shocks. The look the same, I'm just not sure about the diameter of the 2.
I have yet to see a complete build because you dont link the vids in progression.
Whatz up wit dat?
I wanted to see how much that cool engine costs, but it isn't listed among the parts offered.:(
email me for pricing
This new engine is SCREAMING turbo kit!
hell yeah
It's like 3/4 the way there with all the EFI fuckery lol
Hey Red Beard the links for the upper and bottom collar clamps aren’t showing up no more when clicking on them wondering what size was both?????
Can a predator 420cc fit on a Moto Mini Bike 212 series
i envy those forks ......goTTa hAve me GoLD!!!!!!!!!!!
I just bought this bike for my son how can I make it solid .... he is about 90lbs so he doesn't need much for go just want to keep her running for my the big man.
This is going to be a sweet build.....
But I'm curious are there no mlds/upgrades for the stock engine liel there are for the predetor, or are they universal?
I will be doing a video on the other bike we have upgrading the stock engine
@@RedBeardsGarage awesome, waiting for that
Where can I find this engine to buy? I’m just getting excited because of the electronics! Finially I can tune my mini how I want to the T! Oh and Fram filters are the most dangerous thing you could ever do to any oil system cause they are a paper filter and they will break up and kill an engine and that’s fact! Another awesome video guys! I’m still haveing trouble finding front suspension for my fully custom Coleman ct200u that’s running a Nibbi26mm and all the goodies you can do to a Honda clone! I want this engine your doing in this video! I do diesel tuning and build Cummins engines!
Looks good but how well would this hold up as a survival bike say to a motoped compare peice
I know these are recommend max rider weight of 200 lbs, how would you think it would do??? Is it just going to smoke the TQ converter belt constantly? Or do you think I'd be ok but just would see a little faster wear on the belt? Is the frame strong enough for 300 lbs?
Nice engine
I may be wrong but I see a huge problem ... Wouldn't a swing arm make the rear tire smash into the muffler when hitting a bump
No sir wait till the next video where I install the swing arm
I bought the Mega Moto Max and bought a front suspension for the Monster Moto pro and apparently the Monster Moto has larger fork bearings and the center of mine are to small to fit triple tree No Refunds on these parts do you have any idea what I can do to make it work?
Don't forget to extend the swing arm
love todays vid
Why didnt you do a speed test before you ripped these apart? You received two of these and didnt even do a full review on them.
why does monster moto run a jack shaft to the other side of the bike? Why does the chain need to be on that side?
Just worked out for their frame design
You guys are great
A lot's happened since 2018, with Monster Moto disappearing and Coleman's RB200 taking many of the '212's designs. I'd be interested in adding a hydro disc brake to the front of mine if the Monster Moto parts would swap over. The Monster Moto brake lever looks like a match to the rear one the RB200 has, but I don't know if the forks would fit. Gotta have that caliper mounting flange and whatever else is needed to add the disc to the wheel.
If anyone has any insight to that I'd appreciate it please. Thanks.
Fran has a cardboard top plate instead of metal
Sick!
hey guys I always watch you guys but I wanted to know if a clutch is better for speed or a torque converter?
Can you put the manul clutch on this engineer?
Can you buy the motor any where
Been watching you for awhile. Got a question for you. I want to stage 1 a 79cc predator on a trike bicycle, but I want to run propane as my fuel. I know it decreases power. Which is but how would you hook it all up?
starting to look like an actual motorcycle now 😂😂
What is the thing called where it makes the chain go from one side to the other?
Hey man quick question... I have an E1000 I upgraded to 48V . Would love to upgrade the break system.. And throw on some forks. Any suggestions?
are we ever gonna see a vid of braxton's kx85?
Yeah just waiting to get it bored
Looking Badass
Hey guys what up I need help finding stiffer front shocks for the older style baja mini
Where can I get a 212 mini bike without the motor
You should do the 20 inch tires on something like this bike! :)
Yeah it does need a taller tire
Como eu compro uma mini moto dessa,uma 212 quero saber como compro ?
7:18 the pizza rolls are done
Are putting a mono shock in the back or 2 shocks??
2 shocks
thats not too bad on a forks but the rear suspension I don't know about that
Where can I get a shredder engine like the one you have?
Do you have a link for the engine? When I googled it some crazy scooter thing came up.
That is what the engine is off of. You can email me and I can give you prices
11:30 you really shouldn’t have your ground connected to the crankshaft. Run a chance for the internals to arc together and cause accelerated engine wear. RIP main bearings
WOO HOO
why don't ypu let it be a Evel knevel bike woth a tourque converter
Good stuff 🤘🏻🐿🤘🏻
Put a turbo on it
Do you still have those MegaMoto factory front fork tubes I want to buy them?
Woooaahhh
Use a manual 3D motorsport clutch so u can ride a dump the clutch like a real dirt bike lol so it isn't a dog lol
I don't like them at all. I prefer a cvt any day over a clutch for off road
Taking a simple engine design and making it so complicated that you have to have an AST certification to work on the thing and a big pocket book.. Why a O2 sensor and position. Sensor.....
*ASE and it's not really that complicated. There's other pure mechanical choices still available, but this kind of thing is going to be the future.
Without electronic controls, cars as we know it wouldn't exist today. All the tin foil hatter "100mpg carburetor" nonsense in the world couldn't even come remotely close to meeting emissions and CAFE standards the fedfuckers put into law right now.
@@elesjuan I've built many carburated V8 engines that used no electronics other than a HEI distributor, and although not 100mpg, I could easily get 30 mpg in a 3,400 lb car with 3.73 gears that ran 13's in the quarter and they weren't smog monsters. These computers in today's cars are barely worth the trouble. But they do make it easy to boost with turbo/supercharger, but at the cost of reliability. There's always a sensor gone bad or some problem a good mechanic can't diagnose without a computer/scanner.
Love your vids
Where can I get those forks from
Awesome channel and I love your vids, it would be even better if you shortened videos and maybe cut out some of the dry footage in your videos to make them short but sweet.
That "dry footage" is half the fun.
if i get a monster moto I would awsome performace stages on the regular engine not swap it then put awsome design like the Evel Knevel motorcycle colors and plus swap the sprocket and that would be my dream of stunt daredevil
I am trying to find shocks for Baja anyone know which ones will work
take it to the track and make a video out of it wmmx!!
i would be careful of changing out those forks and not strengthening that triple tree...
Yeet morning upload
Put a yz85 engine in a mini bike
I am getting one of does pretty soon I just don’t know witch day do my mom is getting me a mega max 212cc dirt bike and she says she disent know either but she knows cause I now it I think it’s a surprise I think it might be on my birthday but I’m not shure so I’ll have too just sit home every single day and wait and see
Fram uses a cardboard separator on the bottom where other brands use metal ones. We all know what happens when you soak cardboard.. I used to use fram until I watched a video comparing them to "cheaper" ones.
Cool