Greg You are doing a fine job . keep up the good work try to not give into the trend of using motorcycle engines remember where you came from and you will stay on top. Brent AZ.
That’s a cool experiment. I really didn’t expect it to have as much power while running on propane. Kinda curious how the fuel. Mileage test goes. Looking forward to the next video.
You're making me miss mine. I ended up getting a CT200U, which I love, but I remember how nice the MM was. Maybe one day. Tiny Garage Mini Bikes....ain't got much room for more :D
That’s pretty awesome please let us know about the heat maybe I have been around too much propane trucks and they run a lot hotter on propane but thank you for the videos
Cable clamps and cable adjusters from junked bicycles are excellent for small engine projects so I always strip them out at the dump for cable related parts. I've fixed free equipment because the cable itself was obsolete by making one from parts from bicycles and other equipment. Just an idea to help whoever.
MAN!!! You build the coolest rides and every one of them are clean builds meaning it’s not janky it’s built like factory awesome bike I don’t have a garage currently the funds are low rn But! I really wanna build a bike like this it would be funn for me and my little girl to start out on Thank you for the content! Keep up the good work 🤝🤙
Get a tarp and build a simple frame, if you want something overhead to protect you from the rain. Cheap and easy. Or just simply build it in your living room. Don't let not having a garage stop you. I don't have a garage and do most of my wintertime projects in my basement.
Lol so... Ive been kinda doing this for a while now. But.... I pull the tanks balve stem and turn it into a "gas" propane tank .. Lol most of my small bike project have them . was inbetween pripane tanks for current frame .. Same as yours now. Or a rectangle bourbon bottle in the space about "swingarm" . Bless.
Great build! One of your older videos convinced me to buy one of these and I put a Tillitson 212 with a stage one kit in it. Great bike; however, the hardtail makes it tough on the rear, and it’s not a good standing bike (6’, 230; retired guy). Do you recommend the pit fork and rear swing arm mod you did a while back? Or buy a TM MB200 and save money? Thanks; really enjoy the channel.
I have a mega moto and for me the foot pegs are to close to the frame and too far aft. After a small problem and breaking my collar bone I moved the pegs forward and extended them out about a Ince on each side, now safer and more comfortable, for me but I am 70 years old!
Hey Greg.. Ive been converting several things to propane, my log splitter and air compressor most recently. Working on a honda 200 type 2 fourwheeler now. Have it running pretty well, but not the best idle. Have you had idle issues with that particular regulator? Or are you still messing with propane at all? It Looks about like the garretson kn regulars Ive been using. Im going to try a second smaller load block made from 1/4 pipe tee plumbed into the front of the carb instead of the rear and see if helps with the idle . I think the motorcycle type slide carbs have way more issue with propane mixture ratio at least more so than a stock predator type carb,because the slide carbs close off the air flow threw venturi the much tighter at idle. I may go to a mixer for fourwheeler conversion or may adapt predator style carb to it. I know I can make it idle acceptable with that carb on propane if I just drill out the main jet and spud in propane right there where vapor fuel is intended to flow.. trying not to do the spud in with the atv carb unless I come up with a spare I dont mind experimenting on.. btw Derek here from Arkansas, changed my channel name .. used to be vintagediesel
I dunno if anyone else agrees.. but if so like this to get RB's attention ** You should make a calendar with all your projects and a breif description of the mods/etc ** If RB wants to model for us that can be a special edition print
Ok I have questions I have a predator 212cc and I put it on a collman kt196 and know the carb is not running right and I'm going through spark plugs so I mean ya if you can help my
Propane has less ,,power,, in it than gas. Say approx 3/4. So yes there loss of power. R B already said that when introducing this engine. I have an built in tank and unit in my car. In europe you can fill up on the gas station. It costs me 1/2 of what it would cost me burning gas.
Propane will have less power than gas, because it has less btu's per gallon. 91,000 for propane, and 120,000 for gasoline. Cool option though if you can get propane cheaper. Currently it's like $4ish dollars per gallon though.
@@arronjohnston742 Pretty sure he's got an electric mini bike too. He made it out of one of those Rascals or Lil Rascals that Go Power Sports is always giving away.
The reason propane will seem to have more power is because gasoline needs to atomize properly for efficient burns, propane comes naturally with a dense mix of atomized hydrocarbons. Therein, less energy is wasted in burning propane. More energy engaging the piston's downward stroke earlier is more power, regardless of where it comes from. The illusion of extra power is coming from more complete combustion of propane which is already a gas earlier in the the stroke. Meaning, more of the stroke's power curve is meaningful than with gasoline, which wastes time and energy in the beginning of the stroke turning into a gas from a semi-liquid state.
@@billwilliamson9842 Absolutely. The energy density of propane is lower than gasoline, meaning less actual energy is being absorbed by the piston in the same space of time. The trick is, propane will feel arbitrarily more punchy because although there is less power in the entire stroke, there is more power at the beginning of the stroke. Edit: I imagine the illusion is entirely due to the fact that it's a one-cylinder engine. If you were to use a 2-cylinder in which less of the stroke is out-of-phase, the differences in individual strokes making power earlier would be less noticeable, or may dissipate altogether.
Dude. You just made the work around for this throttle problem for DURAMAX. You may want to get put on the engineering team part time to provide solutions for these guys and get paid for it. Just sayin, or better sponsor supply from these guys.
Clean burning propane and propane parafanelia. Red Beard's goin green!!
Pro’s like you make every project look easy. You’re a good instructor. I am proud to be one of your patreon supporters!
Greg You are doing a fine job . keep up the good work try to not give into the trend of using motorcycle engines remember where you came from and you will stay on top. Brent AZ.
Those grease inserts on the neck. Very smart!
That’s a cool experiment. I really didn’t expect it to have as much power while running on propane. Kinda curious how the fuel. Mileage test goes. Looking forward to the next video.
You're making me miss mine. I ended up getting a CT200U, which I love, but I remember how nice the MM was. Maybe one day. Tiny Garage Mini Bikes....ain't got much room for more :D
That’s pretty awesome please let us know about the heat maybe I have been around too much propane trucks and they run a lot hotter on propane but thank you for the videos
I'm so interested in the propane option. Cool video 🤘
Great video y’all, can’t wait to see the next one in this series.
Totally agree with the top 2 mini bikes!!
Runs and sounds Great!
Now I gotta get me a duel fuel!
Love your videos. Thank you, sir.
I like that frame, they are really sweet!
Very cool buid!
You can buy a gauge for the propane tanks. Not the most accurate but it give you a good idea roughly where your at. But keep it up nice build
My new 212 hit the bench today. Got it for the snowblower I pulled out the trash.
A stage 2 kit should help throw some snow 😛
Sweet! I’ve been waiting for this video, thanks for the great content!
Cable clamps and cable adjusters from junked bicycles are excellent for small engine projects so I always strip them out at the dump for cable related parts. I've fixed free equipment because the cable itself was obsolete by making one from parts from bicycles and other equipment. Just an idea to help whoever.
great build and video, great package
MAN!!! You build the coolest rides and every one of them are clean builds meaning it’s not janky it’s built like factory awesome bike I don’t have a garage currently the funds are low rn But! I really wanna build a bike like this it would be funn for me and my little girl to start out on Thank you for the content! Keep up the good work 🤝🤙
Get a tarp and build a simple frame, if you want something overhead to protect you from the rain. Cheap and easy. Or just simply build it in your living room. Don't let not having a garage stop you. I don't have a garage and do most of my wintertime projects in my basement.
Yes can't wait it's finally here
I like the dual fuel and the dual start
OUT standing
Propane runs cleaner. Exhaust pipe will turn solid white on the inside.
Can yu post a link on the headlight or make. vid on how yu gonna hook it up with all the wiring and love the vids !
That is cool a kit you can put together with your 👍🏾👍🏾
Lol so... Ive been kinda doing this for a while now. But.... I pull the tanks balve stem and turn it into a "gas" propane tank .. Lol most of my small bike project have them . was inbetween pripane tanks for current frame .. Same as yours now. Or a rectangle bourbon bottle in the space about "swingarm" . Bless.
fire extinguisher mount might work on small tank. They also make 5lb LP tanks.
Red beard definitely needs to get his hands on a lifan Hp212e
Wow a lot of power for the size 212 allsome guys from cruzermans inventions 😁🎉🌟👍
Is propane like fuel injection because it is pressurized? So it shouldn't stall out on extreme angles even though it is carberated?
Is there any videos on dyno numbers on just the change from gas to propane?
Awesome, now show us some brackets for BBQ and fork lift tanks!
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Great build! One of your older videos convinced me to buy one of these and I put a Tillitson 212 with a stage one kit in it. Great bike; however, the hardtail makes it tough on the rear, and it’s not a good standing bike (6’, 230; retired guy). Do you recommend the pit fork and rear swing arm mod you did a while back? Or buy a TM MB200 and save money? Thanks; really enjoy the channel.
Save money and time
I wonder how it would do on Mapp gas or one of the other gas
you should check with duramax and find out if it will run on mapp gas get hotter than propane?
I’m thinking that’ll result in toooo hot temperature of a burn for the valves, rings, piston. Heck let’s go with acetylene! For science of course…
I like both these ideas lol
Won’t work. Egts will burn something up quickly.
Just screw the yellow bottle on a find out.!! Why bother asking.
@@getprobed838 trial n error is the best teacher. 😅
I have a mega moto and for me the foot pegs are to close to the frame and too far aft. After a small problem and breaking my collar bone I moved the pegs forward and extended them out about a Ince on each side, now safer and more comfortable, for me but I am 70 years old!
Hey Greg.. Ive been converting several things to propane, my log splitter and air compressor most recently. Working on a honda 200 type 2 fourwheeler now. Have it running pretty well, but not the best idle. Have you had idle issues with that particular regulator? Or are you still messing with propane at all? It Looks about like the garretson kn regulars Ive been using. Im going to try a second smaller load block made from 1/4 pipe tee plumbed into the front of the carb instead of the rear and see if helps with the idle . I think the motorcycle type slide carbs have way more issue with propane mixture ratio at least more so than a stock predator type carb,because the slide carbs close off the air flow threw venturi the much tighter at idle. I may go to a mixer for fourwheeler conversion or may adapt predator style carb to it. I know I can make it idle acceptable with that carb on propane if I just drill out the main jet and spud in propane right there where vapor fuel is intended to flow.. trying not to do the spud in with the atv carb unless I come up with a spare I dont mind experimenting on.. btw Derek here from Arkansas, changed my channel name .. used to be vintagediesel
Do I need to grease myself as shown in min 7 or is it ready to rock your jus doin extra?
You should time a Power-tool build compared to Hand tool only build. Be interesting to see how much overtime i can do using only hand tools.
I dunno if anyone else agrees.. but if so like this to get RB's attention
** You should make a calendar with all your projects and a breif description of the mods/etc **
If RB wants to model for us that can be a special edition print
Put it on a Coleman mini-bike and use Coleman stove fuel to run it. Then, ask for a sponsorship.
Ok I have questions I have a predator 212cc and I put it on a collman kt196 and know the carb is not running right and I'm going through spark plugs so I mean ya if you can help my
What sprocket is included in the Mega Moto 212 kit for the jackshaft?
Would that frame fit a predator 670cc asking for a friend?
🤟🏼awesome video
that’s unique
You should put propane on the dyno and see if its actually making more power
How to keep my motor from slipping off the motor mount
Bolt it down
Why use fuel system cleaner on a new engine? Octane boost wouldv'e been funner👍
neat video
Hey Hey Pulled Da Big Man Right on up da Hill Hey Hey Hey What about MAP GAS Huh Come On can Ya Try it too ?? Great Video as always
You really said "If you're a true man, you'll remove the governor on your "Mini Bike" 🤣
i need info on that mini red side by side what is it ?????????????????????? i want to build oneeeeeeeeeeee
What happened to the diesel Deuce
Helmet beards garage coming soon to a TH-cam channel near you.
Figure out what would happen if u mix the both gas and propane
Duel fuel is what it says but all I see is an engine with an auxiliary fuel source
It definitely looks like it has a just a tad bit more on gas
Propane has less ,,power,, in it than gas. Say approx 3/4. So yes there loss of power. R B already said that when introducing this engine. I have an built in tank and unit in my car. In europe you can fill up on the gas station. It costs me 1/2 of what it would cost me burning gas.
Berapa harga cvt set??
Ok, now that I have watched the video and seen it can be built in 10 minutes flat.
sun of a gun
Propane will have less power than gas, because it has less btu's per gallon. 91,000 for propane, and 120,000 for gasoline. Cool option though if you can get propane cheaper. Currently it's like $4ish dollars per gallon though.
Hank Hill edition????
Propane has a lot of pluses but you give up BTUs I'll let you research what British thermal units or
Electric next build ?
Chris over at Rather B Welding has a few electric projects. He's just finishing up a DIY electric dirt bike right now.
@@bradleyj.fortner2203 not a mini bike tho
@J look up Black66 he does heaps of mini bike stuff including an electric mini bike
@@arronjohnston742 Pretty sure he's got an electric mini bike too. He made it out of one of those Rascals or Lil Rascals that Go Power Sports is always giving away.
When they make these they should put a rear swingarm on with solid struts and let buyers either upgrade when buying or buy shocks later on .
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The reason propane will seem to have more power is because gasoline needs to atomize properly for efficient burns, propane comes naturally with a dense mix of atomized hydrocarbons. Therein, less energy is wasted in burning propane. More energy engaging the piston's downward stroke earlier is more power, regardless of where it comes from. The illusion of extra power is coming from more complete combustion of propane which is already a gas earlier in the the stroke. Meaning, more of the stroke's power curve is meaningful than with gasoline, which wastes time and energy in the beginning of the stroke turning into a gas from a semi-liquid state.
@@billwilliamson9842 Absolutely. The energy density of propane is lower than gasoline, meaning less actual energy is being absorbed by the piston in the same space of time. The trick is, propane will feel arbitrarily more punchy because although there is less power in the entire stroke, there is more power at the beginning of the stroke.
Edit: I imagine the illusion is entirely due to the fact that it's a one-cylinder engine. If you were to use a 2-cylinder in which less of the stroke is out-of-phase, the differences in individual strokes making power earlier would be less noticeable, or may dissipate altogether.
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Dude. You just made the work around for this throttle problem for DURAMAX. You may want to get put on the engineering team part time to provide solutions for these guys and get paid for it. Just sayin, or better sponsor supply from these guys.