Responding to Anti Vegan Attacks on Subscribers
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 ต.ค. 2020
- I asked and you guys delivered HUNDREDS of anti-vegan talking points from friends, family and acquaintances so here are some of the most popular and unique claims with responses.
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I’d love a part two! Honestly, the hardest part about being vegan isn’t figuring out how to eat, it’s dealing with all of the inane responses from non-vegans
Ikr, the food is the easy bit. lol
So true! That`s EXACTLY how i feel also!!!!
Exactly!
Veganism is currently losing the propaganda war, since meat is where the big money is.
A lot of vegan girls I know just cut guys off, or won't date non-vegans (It's a bit tougher for men to be so selective). Anyway, for me, long-term it's a waste of time to spend too much time with people who insist on eating meat and won't look at facts.
its easy when your alone, no one know what you eat xD
I can’t believe the WHeRe Do yOu gET yOUr pROtEIn is still a question people have
Yeah I used to get that too until I started weight training and now look better than my meat flabby friends
Joseph Bogdan 😂😂
Almost always the first question people ask me. Next is "what do you even eat??!!" ... ummm do you see all the fruits and veggies in the produce department and the frozen produce departments? Yeah.. pretty colourful and yummy looking eh? Delish and not just brown dead flesh that suffered.
The protein questions makes me want to hurl my legumes!
This is because they have absolutely no clue what protein is and how to get it.
I've been attacked by "friends" because I don't only talk about veganism or the benefits of a plant-based diet without being asked for it.
Like wtf why do I need to be asked to start a theme in a conversation!
Oh, that's right. Because they feel guilty if I talk about problems they're contributing to.
@@pacmanmcgavin7034 And healthier.
@@pacmanmcgavin7034 lower rate of cancer and heart disease, and the only group who averages a healthy BMI biach.
@@pacmanmcgavin7034 scientific research
@@pacmanmcgavin7034 Its "funny" not to continue paying for atrocious and unwatchable violence to the most innocent beings? You should try being "funny" some time.
Yeah, on Facebook I'm a member of a group that is actually called, "Bad Vegans," as I was transitioning to becoming Vegan, but wasn't quite there yet. The worst attacks and detractions came from the hardcore vocal Vegans, who attempted to police every thread, declaring specific people or practices to not be Vegan, or, "Since you're only 98% Vegan, you should call yourself Plant-Based," as if someone is trying to steal their Valour. Meanwhile, I've stopped trying to discuss certain things with certain Vegans, such as consumption of sustainably produced honey, or eating fruits and vegetables that had to be pollinated by bees that were trucked around for their labour. I have tried to explain that this is actually an example of a mutualistic relationship, because honey bees, via Natural Selection, always naturally produce more honey than they need, from the natural state of them always making extra as a hedge against wild animals getting into their hives and eating their stores. When I have been told that bees don't make "extra" honey, I have to point out to them the dozens of houses every year where people end up having to do major renovations, because honey bees set up a colony in their walls, and made so much extra honey over the three to six year period between when they began and when it's discovered, that it literally start oozing through the interior walls. Our pets are also a mutualist relationship, as they need humans for most of their food shelter (dogs, at least), and we give each other companionship. Then there's the pet food problem. Vegan dogfood exists, and sustained one of my dogs, a Chihuahua, to almost age 19. Vegan cat food is trickier, and understandably, nobody wants to harm their cat by nutrient deficiencies, but Science knows what cats need, and various companies have made it for a couple decades now. Anyway, I'm on my own Path, as are we all, only able to judge ourselves compared to yesterday, within the systems we grow up.
Change takes time. Extending kindness even to human animals garners more interest, rather than having Omnis imagine joining a back-biting club of neverendingly whiney assholes, who feel the need to jump on every little discrepancy to make their point.
LITERALLY fixed my life long rheumatism which the pain from almost made me kill myself multiple times by quitting dairy and my friends said during a gathering that if i dont eat cheese or drink milk im going to have horrible bone health in a year or 2.... nobody ever even congratulated me on overcoming my crippling health problem but here they are giving me nutrition advice as if they are not over weight and lethargic. ill never forget that day and how much it hurt deep down inside to see the ignorance of people i had close to my heart :(.
PS that was a over a year ago now and i have not experienced a pain attack even once :), im healthier than ever!
Yes! It does hurt deep inside when you have to stand by and watch people literally making themselves sick
My husbands best friend died of colon cancer on Monday. He ate meat, animal products and drank Primarily coke and coffee. 🤷♀️ we tried explaining it to him. Nothing changed his bad habits.
I'm so sorry you had to deal with that! I recommended Dr Gregers book to a friend overcoming breast cancer and a husband with prostate cancer and she was like, "nope, plant based would not work". I'm doing this in large part for back pain. If it will stop the pain I'm willing to do anything. Congratulations on taking control of your health.
@@Sharilyn2455 good for you!! 😀👍 yes, (most) back pain is due to (partially) blocked blood vessels - a warning sign to heart attack and stroke. If you liked How Not to Die (one of my favorite books too), you'll love *Fiber Fueled* by Dr. Will Bulsiewicz. Just published. I'm listening to it right now on audible - mega interesting. He goes into more detail about our gut bacteria. You have to check it out!!! 😁✌💜🌟
@@adorable3817 I have two bulging discs but I won't let that stop me. Thanks! I'll check out Fiber Fueled!
@@Sharilyn2455 two "bulging" discs? 😳 oh no 🙈 ....that sounds really painful. Hope you can still live a comfortable life.
Fiber Fueled has great and new information.
Wish there was a book Club or someplace where everyone who read or is reading the book, where we can all talk about it 😁✌
I am going to ask Mic the Vegan if he could do a book review of that book. Would love to know what he, and (for example) Dr. Neal Barnard etc think of it 😊🌟
Been vegan for 3 years and my family can still be like "but you can eat bacon right?" or "but milk and butter is fine no one died for that". I don't really want say I don't eat meat to new ppl if not needed because ppl get so offended by it.👍
Yea I know what you mean dude. I just don't bring it up unless I'm asked about it or something, but when I do I don't hesitate in not shutting up about it. So I just don't mention it cos once they start me up....
@@80slimshadys haha so true
you make them think about their pathetic ways is all.
SILENCE IS VIOLENCE!!! By not speaking up for the oppressed u r still doing apart of the oppressing despite being vegan.
Oh stars yes. I will hang out with people for weeks on end and my veganism might not come up, and then for the first time we'll be planning to get food together, and I'll say "oh, I need there to be vegan options" and suddenly all the "how do you know someone's vegan? Don't worry, they won't shut up about it!" jokes start. Like... Seriously people.
African Americans actually have the highest rates going plantbased compared to the general population from what I've seen recently lol
Armani bout time
People on the right act like they would lose a Y chromosome if they didn't get enough red meat, while leftist act like veganism is a gateway to white nationalism. Both sides are just warping their cognitive dissonance to fit whatever political philosophy they adhere to.
@@davidmhh9977
Spot on bro! No matter how different People might be, there is ALWAYS this one matter that they agree on
@@davidmhh9977 Vice said that Veganism is "white supremacy" and that white vegans = Hitler. You just can't argue with this level of stupidity.
@@lammy2140 in that case Palestinians should have an even higher number of vegans
Addiction is the perfect argument against the "intuitive eating" thing, or "my body tells me I need animal products". Cause you know, my body tells me that I need heroin 3 times a day but I've discovered that it's not to my advantage to listen to it.
Good one! Also, people should know about their microbiome ;)
It's ignorance, addiction, and cognitive dissonance. Most people are lazy and don't want to try 'new' ways to eat, until they are on their death bed and it's too late. Same with smokers!!!
Wow thats a glorious point, I love it.
Exactly. That's how we know plant foods are good for us: Because initially we hate them.
@@Vrin137 It's karma. For example, traditional diet Okinawans have among the longest lives to regret their poor dietary decisions. "Oh why did I eat all that fish, pork and lard?! Why am I so healthy?! Why won't I die?! Curse my long-lived dissonance!"
When people pull the "but plants can feel" line I just ask them how often they mow their lawn and do they eat it or just discard it?
I would like to see a part 2.
I debunk a anti vegan who argue vegans kill more animals after I told him the research and facts about 70 to 80 percent of crops are grown for animals that would explain the millions of deaths and he never responded lol.
Noah Lu that famous one “crop deaths though” 😂
Whenever I tell non-vegans that over 70% of soy is fed to livestock so they can stop saying that vegans are destroying the planet, they get all fidgety and start spewing nonsense. The cognitive dissonance is real man!
Dani great name Dani 😂 I’m dani too. Yup that is so true. Cognitive dissonance is frustrating. Allows them to completely forget the abuse that went into creating a burger; I mean sometimes people don’t actually associate that meat was a living breathing animal 🙈
There's something to be said for recontextualizing the question. Refuse to make it a counter argument, because intellectual dishonesty, and ignorance regarding formal logic rather than emotional reasoning (this describes most people) just result in defensiveness with most people.
Approach the question from another angle, using terms they don't have a negative emotional association with, and reframe it as a question that you are both free to actually engage your minds and natural morals with. It's more difficult for people to fall into dogmatic, pre packaged responses when they are faced with a fresh scenario they haven't heard strawmanned or misrepresent by some pseudointellectual shit-Gibbon.
Dani you might want to see www.sacredcow.info/blog/qz6pi6cvjowjhxsh4dqg1dogiznou6 ‘The plant-based industry wants you to believe that crops, like soy, corn, and barley, are mostly being fed to livestock, but according to the United Nations FAO, grain makes up only 13% of global livestock feed.’
The very end “get away, you’re making me feel guilty” 😂😂😂💀
I am so old I remember the four basic food groups and being taught in school how we needed (or we would die of malnutrition) all four. It was strictly forbidden to go against that belief and as a result I had chronic health problems that have almost all disappeared since I became vegan.
So the four food groups were:
1. Animal
2. Animal
3. Animal
4. Garnish
@@fearofaveganplanet8513 You got it! One was grains, other was fruits and veggies, other was dairy (which for some magical reason included eggs??), and last was meat and fish (dead things that had to be slaughtered, basically). But, sadly, yes... animal, animal, side, garnish. And, trust me, you didn't just get a "no" if you asked to just eat non-animal products, you got told instead that you needed psychiatric help, were going to die of malnutrition/illness/were a commie, etc. Animal farming is a big profit industry and was being highly developed back then~state govenments had a hold (as always) on the schools and the minds of the young which they did not want to relinquish. This was all in the 60s mostly. I really respect and am forever in debt to the groundbreakers who made their own tofu and seitan and raised their kids to eat plant products (amidst the neighbors' snickers) ~ they were far stronger than I could ever was.
@@fearofaveganplanet8513 It keeps deleting rest of my reply~ will finish later~ glad for you young people! You give me hope for the future!
I was raised on a small farm, basically just raising enough for our own family. We raised chickens, geese, rabbits and pigs for meat. But meat was expensive in labor if not in money and we ate many a vegetarian meal. I still have fond memories of meals of green beans, cornbread and onion. My Mom was aware of current official positions on nutrition, but she never thought we needed meat every day. (Btw, we wasted little and ate animal parts that the average modern meat-eater would quail at: kidneys, brains, feet, etc. Tripe--which we had to buy, since we couldn't afford to raise cows--was a special treat.)
@@johnmayer8202 Oh, yes~I mean I have accepted that I will have breakdowns and eat maybe a piece of turkey at Thanksgiving or a piece of fish but so far, so good~ I am 64. I was an omnivore all my life. II am lucky to have made it 10 months almost as a vegan, my longest stretch ever. I started New Year's Eve 2019 and here I am! 64 years and prob will have lost 64 pounds by this New Year's Eve; that will put me just under 200 lbs. I feel great, my bp, cholesterol, triglycerides, blood glucose, and weight are all down. I feel so much better and the weight is just falling off. I don't feel deprived, in fact, I don't think that the feelings I had before were actual hunger. I think they were a combination of guilt and bodily revulsion at what I was putting into it. My mom told me she had to 'just force me to eat meat'. *Shudder* She did what she was taught by her grandmother who raised her. There was no internet or source of instant knowledge like we have now. She eventually died of dementia at (wait for it) 64. I am so much better and starting to actually run. I walk about two miles a day right now. I haven't run since I was a teen. I mean what AP's did to her and my dad was unbelievable but I am still looking out for some doctor to pin me down and say that I need to do this or that (take their meds) because my mom had dementia and it therefore will be hereditary. But currently, my own doctor is pretty good and she is interested in my progress, is rather impressed she has said. I have hypothyroidism and other issues w old age that will probably not go away completely but we will see. Other cultures don't have those problems as bad with things that Americans especially are taught are just natural products of aging. They aren't. All kinds of things can be reversed and don't have to happen at all.
Wow quote: "There is no vitamin meat." Well said!
But meat has bioavailable vitamins unlike plants
@@kohi48 How are Vitanins C, K, and the entire family of B vitamins, and E, somehow not immediately bioavailable from plants? Really?
@Marcus Scott Some of them aren't just ignorant, they lie on purpose
@@injunsun To be more specific... If you have damage to your gut microbiome, or you have an imbalance of good and bad bacteria, your gut cannot breakdown, digest and absorb nutrients. You will become deficient more quickly. Plant material can be digested properly with a healthy gut, but most people do not have optimal gut flora and/or damage. This is why meat would be easier for some people to extract nutrients. It just depends on your unique physiology. Some will do well and can last longer on the vegan diet, some will become deficient more quickly.
@Frol Zapolsky You are spot on with your info about K2. Great info! :)
Love this. I can’t think of a reason that justifies mass animal abuse
I can name many reasons;
Combines Tho
B-12 tho
Vit. D tho
Crop Deaths tho
Protein Deficiency
it tastes good!
If we don't, they'll take over the world...
Did I miss any? :)
Anti-Vegan Nonsense hahahah yes 😂😂
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@@demcomp oh didn't realize you were joking sorry!
@@ryanhall8770 😂😂😂😂 no worries, mate. The important thing is you do now hahah! Plus @UK Vegan Family knew too, so that helped I'm sure lol
I feel like as long as you don't label a meal or food as "vegan" people are totally fine with it, but as soon as you describe it as "vegan", there's suddenly a need to supplement it with animal products.
I comprised the most common myths and general statements:
-You have to be careful with proteins
-You risk anaemia
-Cats/Dogs are pets,not food
-How can you live without (x)? Too tasty.
-We were cavemen
-Lions/Tribes eat meat. Do you want them to stop?
-The animal farmers would lose their jobs
-Canines
-We are omnivores
-It's a traditional dish
-I couldn't do it
-Everything in moderation
-Carbs make you fat
-I don't understand why someone wouldn't eat (x)
-More for me
-If they don't want to be eaten why do they taste so good?
-God says it's okay
-It's already there,why waste the sacrifice
-It's an eating disorder
-It's a modern trend
-Do what you want but don't judge me
-Milk makes strong bones
-You need cholesterol and saturated fat (from food)
-What if the eggs come from someone who keeps their hens well
-B-12 is only from animal food
-Fish aren't sentient
-Omega-3s from plants aren't enough
-If you eat locally you don't contribute to climate change/animal suffering
-What about the insects
-You can't be poor and eat a plant based diet
-fiber leads to gut issues
-there's more blood on your hands because insects and rodents die in crops
-there's starving childern who would eat it
-there's wars going on
-There's not enough data to support it
-The data that supports plant based diets is biased
-Vegans are infertile
-Leather is okay because it doesn't waste the animal
-I know unhealthy vegans
-Vegans fall in depression
-There's no vegan athletes
-There's no long term vegans
-I heard veggies have antinutrients
-Fruit leads to diabetes because of sugar
-Pasta/Bread is to blame
-There's food deserts
-My parents force me
-I know someone who stopped being one
-If you hunt the animal it's okay to eat it because it's "spiritual" and "ecological". There would be too many so it's a favor.
-Soy is dangerous. (If you are female) it causes cancer (if you are a male) it causes man breasts
-Vegetarians are more likely to be female therefore,meat makes me a man.
-Vegetarians are too scared to hunt
-If you eat meat the protein is complete
-Violence is normal in nature
-Animals are bred for a purpose
-They died in peace
-Vegans are so rude
-I hate vegans because they are preachy
-I don't eat meat,I hate people who force their views. I think everyone is free to do whatever, it's none of my business.
-I have cheat days once in a while. I'm vegan.
-Tastes good (they learn it's vegan) errr... I MEAN tastes weird
-Disgraceful. You can't make (x) vegan.
-Don't brainwash children in to this too.
-Veganism is a cult. They act like a religion.
-Vegans are hippies who do drugs.
-I hate the taste of vegetables.
-Your stomach would not handle it
-TOP OF THE FOOD CHAIN FOR A REASON
Please add more (if you can...we know carnist have the same excuses)
so comprehensive, lol
- Farmed animals can't survive nature
I’ve heard all these before… so much bullsh*t 😭
Heh
I’m a vegan for 15 months. My family has flesh eating animals. I told them no I end up the meat. I eat all veggie and fruits, I workout all day.
Working out all day isn’t healthy please be safe.
I really hope you know what you are doing and don’t become an angry ex vegan just saying cuz you need to eat beans potatoes rice quinoa grains and working out all day is not a good idea
Juan Martinez You’re right. I need eat beans, potatoes, rice & Quinoa grains is really delicious. I have lots of Vegan recipes and I drink lots of water. 😊😊😊😊
oh, I definitely needed the Tammy skit!!!!!!!!!!!!
It’s me! I’m the one person that needed that skit! Thank you Mic :)
Yay you answered my comment! I’m glad I’m not the only one with an aunt like this. I also read that the A1 protein in milk is only a recent development and is a result of genetic mutation, so... 🤣
Oh my GOSH! I can't believe I'm in the video! The good new is my family has changed their opinion quite a bit since my cousin turned out to be severely lactose intolerant and needs plant based dairy products. I also keep bringing vegan dishes to the dinners anyway and I always go home with a clean, empty dish.
Part 2 please Mic! I was just getting into it!
As soon as someone expresses doubts about my dietary choices, I say this:
You may have your own opinion and I respect that, but the concensus among nutritionists is as follows: "appropriately planned vegetarian, including vegan, diets are healthful, nutritionally adequate, and may provide health benefits for the prevention and treatment of certain diseases. These diets are appropriate for all stages of the life cycle, including pregnancy, lactation, infancy, childhood, adolescence, older adulthood, and for athletes." What do you think of that?
They usually switch to another topic.
a550077 Hi you dropped this 👑
a550077 Very good response.
Hell yeah
@FluffyFungus She would disagree with what exactly?
@FluffyFungus - actual scientists (lots of them) say that animal products are not required!
My favorite come back to the "why do vegans eat things that look like meat?" is... the same reason people like decaf coffee/soda, or sugar free baked goods! They want the taste of those things without the ingredient that they deem unsavory/negative.
So basically replace sugar free with cruelty free! BAM!
Love from your fellow Iowa vegans!! :)
Yes, this is an acceptable answer. But I think often what they are implying when they ask is that the fact vegans want these items seems to be evidence that it's "natural" for humans to eat meat, and that they are tricking their bodies and cheating themselves out of what they really need. I usually say that people have grown up with those foods and sometimes want something similar to that as a familiar comfort food, but without the suffering.
Not all Vegans like the taste of meat, I never did so for me fake meat is not my thing. to each their own I guess.
@@Vrin137 Yeah, me too. I've always been mostly into wholefoods but occasionally have something processed just out of curiosity because there are so many new products out all the time.
This is great! Would love to see a part 2 to this video. Thank you for all your amazing research and hilarious format with excellent resources and citing.
Incredibly funny I can’t thank you enough Mic for this channel and all you do for the plant based community. Vegan rocks!!
Mic's acting skills thought!!!!!
I have had to try to deal with those sort of comments from people online-so SO thankful for Mic here to save the day again!! We appreciate you!
Thx for speaking out the truth =)
@She belongs to the Skreets No. He's either dishonest or idealist about reversal of heart disease using vegan/plant based diet(s). Thats far from being the best than say Vegan Gains, Dr. Avi, Ask Yourself, THAT VEGAN COUPLE, Gary Yourofsky, The Frugivore, etc. Not saying Mic. is not one of the best, but certainly not the best.
ImDemonWolf He was going to host a debate because the truth is the ability of low fat WFPB to reverse heart disease has not been sufficiently studied. So Mic has acknowledged this recently. It should be studied, certainly
@@abe8435 Mic. has not corrected his claims that WFPB diet reverses heart disease and he remains a believer of such enough to not directly debate/communicate with Dr. Avi yet.
I love that point about people listening to their body. They are simply listening to the tongue, not the brain, large intestine, small intestine, etcetera!
@Marcus Scott That is assuming quite a lot with one comment, Marcus. In fact, the content of your comment seems derogatory in nature. It assumes that something is bad and that someone is bad for breaching the rules that you set, but that doesn't mean I am a soldier in your army. I march to the beat of my own drum.
*On the "Preachy" vegan argument:* I really hate the idea that "good vegans" are quiet vegans and how even many vegans - looking for approval from carnists - ascribe to it. It is not moral to do harm, but it also is not moral to ignore harm. Like - if you saw someone beating their kids or promoting beatings for children, wouldn't you say something? Wouldn't it be wrong not to?? I talk about veganism and oppose the promotion of carnism because I feel morally obligated to do so.
That said - I don't agree with the idea that all carnists are evil. I seperate moral/immoral *acts* from people, because people are complex and do a variety of moral and immoral things, on a spectrum of morality (from donating a kidney to recycling, from cutting in line to murder). I don't think being vegan necessarily makes someone a more moral *person* than someone who consumes animal products, and I think it's ineffective advocacy to treat carnists as though they are necessarily less moral people. HOWEVER, even if carnists can rightly complain about having been demonized by a vegan, "some vegans being mean" obviously doesn't justify doing harm to animals or the planet.
We were all brought up to eat meat and dairy in this carnist culture, so of course, eating meat and dairy doesn't necessarily automatically make you an immoral person. HOWEVER, if you were confronted with actual facts about how much the animals suffer, over and over again, and STILL insist on justifying the culture you were brought up in, then at a certain point it DOES become a personal choice that you consciously choose to make. And this is the REAL reason why vegans who talk about veganism are vilified, because carnists know in their heart of hearts, that so long as they can feign ignorance, they can continue to see themselves as "moral" people, but if they are given the actual information and facts over and over again, the more information they are given, and the more they STILL insist on not changing their ways, at a certain point, it DOES make them immoral.
It's just an "Us vs Them", defensive strawman reaction because they feel morally challenged, and people act dishonest and even lie, exaggerate, and misrepresent their own beliefs when they feel their ideology and person are threatened. This is an unfortunate effect of living in a time when people still base their beliefs on dogma and irrationality, and are thus intellectually unsophisticated and so fail to separate their beliefs from their Identity. It's why American politics is a shit-show, too. But that was made that way intentionally within the past 40 years.
Vegan Footsoldier has a vid on this topic: th-cam.com/video/jpIOAe4hjL8/w-d-xo.html His tone is very different from Mic the Vegan tho - this is titled, "Quiet Vegan Dickheads".
You want to preach go to church, and no I never get in between a mom and her cubs bears or humans.
@@hilomona I like Footsolider's tone...just very different from Mike's! Was a punk/goth in the 70s and 80s (still spin my vinyl) his tone is butt-kickin and I like it :D
Seriously would love a part two. But very happy with this video. Keep up the great work!
Yes please do a part 2! Thank you for these.
i liked this style of video! thanks for sharing
I actually don't eat mock meats. Whole food gang!😁
Your point about the processed animal items shaped like plants, I like that. I'm going to use that one!
And, YUP -- You got it right: "black rose n UK" :)
I would love a Part 2! I know you’ve covered these topics in dedicated videos, but it’s so handy to have them in one place so that we can quickly refresh our memory.
Melissa .Garrett stop being vegan
hey, I found a bunch of anti-vegan articles how can I send them to you to debunk at some point?
Anti-Vegan articles are fun to debunk!
Of course, mic@micthevegan.com :)
It's not going to be too difficult to debunk them because of the anti vegans stupidity and unreasonable attitude towards the expoiltion and abuse not just on animals but on the planet and humanity.
I always get a chuckle out of "What do you eat?"
As if there are no plants to eat, that no food exists other than animals.
"What do you eat?"
hahahaha
“You can have the burger and not eat the cow too” lmao perfect!!!
I have about 5 Mic the Vegan videos bookmarked in my phone just for when I need to (very politely) shut down omnivorous haters as I go through my day. This video is the best! Thank you Mic!! 🙏
Nobody:
Me: *likes Mic’s video before even watching it because I already know it’s going to be good*
I do the same....He's a good guy with a great heart. He shows he cares every video.
Ditto. Every time.
My go to when referred to meat eating as a habit or else is "Ohh I used to love it too!" then I sometimes point out certain meals or recipes and tell them how much I used to love them and that I used to eat a different kind of cheese a day (I'm French) etc and I gave it all up and will never go back, you should see their faces ,) I think it's important to remember for the many of us who used to be omnivores/carnivores that we used to do it and we can strike a chord more if we relate to others, after all, most of us used to be like the ones who are questioning our eating lifestyle, so I do like to start with something we have in common then proceed to explain why I gave it up ;) It does make them think
What about people with food allergies?
A part two or a series would be so awesome! Super entertaining and gives me talking points for sure! I find that people patronizing me for being vegan hardly ever even want to hear my response, sadly, but I’ll still get it in there!
'One third of the world's freshwater & half of the grains output' is used for animal agriculture - deeply shocking just staggering!
Keep up the good work Mic.
Thanks for this video. Really good and helpful.
For part 2 (I really hope you do it): "If veganism is so healthy, why is it not already widely accepted by medicine". Coming from my friend who is out of arguments.
Radu Gheorghe it is. Watch game changers
Exactly. And yet, replace the word “veganism” with “smoking” and that same argument was probably used in the 1950s and 60s.
Yes, you guys are absolutely right. Maybe it.s just our country here. I go often for blood tests, and doctors here are horrified when I tell them I'm plant based. Needless to say that the results are just dandy.
@@alienfornever Hehe, I went for a blood test a year ago and my doctor later asked me if I was on any special medication because my blood test results “looked too perfect to be natural.” And I had to remind her that I was vegan. I still don’t think she fully made the connection.
@@alienfornever hahah, I even got diagnosed and told by doctor that my tonsillitis came from not eating meat. Nevermind the fact I have problem with my tonsils from the very first day of my life when I didn't even know meat and vegan diet exist 🤣
I needed that skit. 😅 I love how you transform when you put a wig on. Seriously though- greatbwork! Thank you.
A part 2 would be awesome!!
Looking forward to this 👍🏻
Excellent presentation!
Entertaining and informative as always, Mic. Thanks for the work you do!
Thankyouuu for addressing the issue. The video is very well made!
You are so frickin smart, sir!
I went back eating meat and I had to stop because my body and mind felt horrible, instead of giving me energy, animal consumption was draining all the energy and motivation from my being; not to speak that one of the main reasons I don't eat meat is the cruelty, I still feel bad for all those animals I have consumed throughout my life.
Thanks for posting this in time for Canadian Thanksgiving 😀
Loved it. Especially the skits!
Hey Mic! You should do a debunk of Darren Schmidt, he is kind of famous in this keto community and has lots of followers. He even made a video "responding" to you.
I got my first vegan add!!!
As an online animal activist, I love watching your videos like this. People always state opinions like they are proven facts and these videos always give me a very educated (and educated sounding) response that gets the point across really quick.
😂😂😂😂 hahaha that skit was awesome lol! I believe I was the person who that skit was made for! I needed that
These are all great...however, uh, there's a lot of material. Is there a rent-a-mikethevegan program for those pesky holidays meals with the family? I think I'd like to just have him chime in everytime someone starts at the dinner table.
Yeah, me, I needed that skid ;-)
I need many more skits-they are hilarious!
Awesome answers, really helpful!
You make the best videos. Love you in a wig
This is earlier than normal for your postings.
I really enjoy the humor in this. I also LOVE the comparisons of meat products to fruit. I SO WANT to use that one!
Thanks for responding to the post, @mic. Definitely shoved this video in their face (politely) haha. I have a building note list of counter arguments for everything someone would say and love that you always put up your sources, because it helps show friends and family verified data.
Also, you definitely could make a whole series out of this. Science-based responses to questions or arguments people make against veganism.
Also, maybe even a pdf with quick go to response with a link to a verified source that supports the argument? I'd love to help with that.
I enjoy your jokes, hilarious
My coworker: "I'm a secondary vegan, I eat the plants the animals were eating by eating said animals..." How am I supposed to reply to this?!
Can't wait to hear - because morons at my work have said the same! 🙈
Go to the definition of veganism . “Veganism is a philosophy and way of living which seeks to exclude-as far as is possible and practicable-all forms of exploitation of, and cruelty to, animals for food, clothing or any other purpose; and by extension, promotes the development and use of animal-free alternatives for the benefit of animals, humans and the environment. In dietary terms it denotes the practice of dispensing with all products derived wholly or partly from animals." From vegansociety.com
They're making a statement that they think is funny. No need to respond besides a roll of the eyes.
Always love the skits!
"Science and logic", I love it. You're great. I love your work.
One day I got a tattoo on my arm that says "vegan". Later, that same day, I received a reply to one of my comments on YT (from a pro-trumper russian bot type) threatening to kill me. I used to use my real name on YT. When I went to change my YT name, I looked at my arm and, well, yeah. So now, regardless of what I comment on, I have an "obvious agenda" based on my YT name. W H A T E V E R. Yes. I guess I DO have an agenda to save the planet, the people, and all the animals. I'm just an out-of-control rebel. Grrrrrrrrr
I've also gotten death threats - just for posting friendly upbeat comments about whole food plant based diet. I didn't if I should laugh, or be concerned. Someone deleted this person's comment.
.....the world is strange 😬😅
Wow! /who's the crazy ones really, certainly not vegans in general, mostly meat-eaters. Emotionally and mentally seams vegans are far more balanced as well. You are what you eat!
Vegans are preachy - How many ads for meat do we see in a day?
Amazing podcast! Thanks for this :)
Please do part II!
I actually support veganism. Less competition at the butcher.
omnivore isnt bad either, they dont ask the butcher for the fat trimmings
Meat is literally one of the most nutriant lacking foods there is. Most of it is just saturated fat and cholesterol.
And yeah, we need some amount of cholesterol. But psst. let me tell you a secret. Your liver makes all the cholesterol you'll ever need.
All you do by eating more cholesterol is forcing your liver to deal with all this extra cholesterol. Doesn't your liver do enough already? Dealing with alcohol, medications, dealing with other shit that doesn't need to be in the body. Does it need to be strained any further? Get real, wake up.
I ask my family about nutrition labels and their eyes glaze over. I'm dying though.
Hahaha, show me one plant based food that has more nutrition than liver ? How many supplements you have to take to be a vegan ?
@@sidsnyder8043 Vegans only need to take b12. If they eat a well planned diet that is. But everyone is recommended to take b12. Even meat eaters. Anyone who lives in an area with lacking sunshine should take vitamin D. Liver is one exception in terms of "nutrition". But that doesn't outweigh the negatives. You still have no excuses.
@@sidsnyder8043 Excessive vitamin A and copper. Low in many minerals including potassium, no fiber, so little in carbs it doesn't even register in daily RDA, I'm unsure of antioxidants like polyphenols but pretty sure they are non-existent in liver -- vitamin E is low, low in many b vitamins, teeny amount of vitamin C, microscopic amounts of vitamin K, no calcium, low magnesium, etc.
There are no superfoods, not plants, not animals. You're essentially stating that liver is a superfood. Superfoods are a myth.
Dude you want to send doctors and Big Pharma employes to the street dont spread that information think about their families
Thanks for all the videos! I stopped eating meat, dairy, and eggs mainly for health reasons. After a short while I became very sympathetic and understanding about what was actually happening to the animals. Looking back I see how easy it was though to not even think about it.
I needed that skit!
I swear every vegan starts to turn a yellow grey colour then loses their period, their hair, then their teeth, then all their collagen. At least add insects since you kill billions anyways. Herbivores chew the cud or have several stomach chambers, we don't. And I'm not just being a vegan basher it genuinely upsets me that young people are becoming so unhealthy and eating so many fruits etc flown from half way across the world and parents are feeding their children insufficient diets. Some to the point of actual starvation. Just at least give the kids some insects.
@@JoAnn_Vegan_USA bugs were a huge part of our diet for a long time until we could hunt and farm and it's a lot less comical than eating 2kg of 30 different plants every day flown from here there and everywhere and still feeling hungry. I think youd find it quite beneficial and ultimately hopefully lead to a more sustainable approach
@@JoAnn_Vegan_USA how much do you eat in a day? If that's the optimal diet why are you so hungry and why is everybody losing their collagen, teeth and hair. Gorillas, chimps orangutans etc very little differences between us and them..name one that doesnt eat at least bugs
@@JoAnn_Vegan_USA plus comparing omnivores to herbivores is like comparing apples and oranges, you're right! Same way as comparing them to carnivores because they're all equally different and we are omnivores
@joanna. Every vegan is a woman? Huh
@@randomdude3646 how very sexist of me
you should stick to making these kinds of vids if it'll keep you from defending ideologically-driven 'science' claims
I'm wondering what are you talking about? The science clearly shows that diets dominated by whole plant foods are better for our bodies and MUCH better for the planet.
Okay how about you do some more research bud?
@@karlwheatley1244 specifically the claim that a low-fat whole foods plant based diet reverses coronary artery disease
@@ryanhall8770 what would you like me to research, chief?
@@taintmueslix Thanks for your reply. Multiple multi-year trials have demonstrated that whole food plant-based diets that are very low in fat stop even serious heart disease in its tracks and people get BETTER. Most angina goes away in a few days to a few weeks. In the 2014 Esselstyn study, rates of major CVD events were 100 times lower among people eating his diet than among similar patients with heart disease who went off the diet. These are earth-shaking improvements. As someone who lives and teaches in the Cleveland area, I have had multiple students volunteer how the Esselstyn diet saved their husband's life. So yes, eat a nutrient dense, whole food, plant-based diet that is very low in fat and has lots of greens and your cardiovascular health will improve. Take care.
Hahahahaha 🤣 I definitely have a “Tammy” I work with. Thanks for this
I would like to see you do some stuff on juice fasting I am a huge fan of this video and all the rest of you sarcastic style!
YES, We NEEDED that sketch!!!!!!!!
MIC NOT ONLY YOU FUNNY BUT EVERYTHING you say makes sence.godbless you keep you safe to defend the ones who cannot defend themselves
Thank you for this video! We are a tiny house living vegan couple too and we experienced a lot of ‘opinions’ on a daily basis! This video was therapeutic lol 😂 thank you!
Great video! I got a good amount of laughs out of it. So thank you! And theTammy character's spot on.
Every Vegan needs a pocket size Mic the Vegan to defend us every time we get attacked for being Vegan😅
Idk why Mic you said no one needed that skit,I love ur educational videos but I love ur funny skit videos even more.
Very entertaining,love your characters.Thank you for your advocacy.
As vegan Grandmaster Ben Finegold would say,"Go Mike,but stay there"
Been vegan for over 3 months :) just got blood work done today. I’m excited to see my results.
I always need the skits 🤩
I purposely watch ads for this guys income lmao. Keep doin ur thing Mic. Much love
Hey Mike. Appreciate the skit !
Great video and responses!
MIKE! I LOVE YOUR SKITS! MORE, MORE, MORE!!!
Great video! Thank you!
Yes to a part 2 plus we need more Tammy 🤣
Brilliant! Keep them coming!