From an engineering perspective the low tongue weight vs high tow rating means most towing, done properly, will be ok. But life is full of oddball events and anyone with road trip experience can easily imagine a resonant combination of road conditions, speed, suspension height/travel, braking, and steering, even at normal cruise let alone panic (let alone collision) conditions, which could overwhelm a tongue support rated at 1/10th the towing rating, and the level of disaster when it just breaks off completely cannot be overstated. It’s 100% in conflict with the mindset of most truck owners/enthusiasts, who appreciate things that can take an absolute beating beyond their rating and (at least) not break off as the CT’s rear bumper did. And I love the CT and would buy one if I could, but this point remains true so I would simply not tow anything heavy with it.
Weaker yes, Worse though? Still to be found out as more and more are on the roads and used in towing. I know people that tow with all the other Tesla models. Sometimes well above their weight limits with no issues.
I'm sure Tesla will figure it out. I feel this shouldn't have been a pickup truck this should have been an SUV. The rivian and especially the Ford lightning those are trucks. But it'll be interesting to see what happens with this thing :-)
No he did not "Keep dropping it from 10 feet in the air onto a concrete barrier". It dropped once driving off a culvert and struck a concrete barrier. So the damage was from a single 5 or 6 ft drop. What you are referencing is a follow up video where he tested the F150 by dropping it on a concrete barrier 40 times, attacked it with an excavator and dropped one of the concrete barriers onto the hitch from 15 ft, ultimately bending the frame and then unbending it with out the hitch or any of the frame snapping off. I get that you are a Tesla based channel and I'm not trying to bash the brand, but your statement is blatantly false. If we want better vehicles we need to hold brands accountable and not try to gloss over their flaws.
Cast Aluminum will always be weaker than Steel Frame Construction. Although I have no concerns with the truck and towing for myself. I know that Tesla is always working behind the scenes improving things constantly.
@@Savan12986 The F-150 was an empty bed ICE version. The CT between battery and 2/3 electric motors over the rear axles has easily the 3 tons of additional weight he should have put in the F-150 bed to approximate same forces. Force = mass * gravity. How the CT would have fared with the suspension helping would have been a good test w the concrete barrier drop. He jumped the CT at least 10 feet, far higher than the Ford, and despite all the weight, it handled it fine.
I don’t think that’s correct. It looks like 2 feet further you loose 880lbs and from about 1 foot further you lose 725lbs and standard hitch distance you get the full 10% of tow capacity like most other trucks. So towing looks pretty much the same as most other trucks but once you start extending past that is where you have to stay cognizant of your weights. Not a big deal for some but maybe a big deal for others.
as long as you don't tow with it... cast aluminum sucks! the fact its not a steel frame is not only dumb... but also highly dangerous. many many people have ripped off there bumpers towing. look at jerry rig everthing.. for example.. not even going to say whistlingdiesel th-cam.com/video/NVAaFLVe0qQ/w-d-xo.html
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From an engineering perspective the low tongue weight vs high tow rating means most towing, done properly, will be ok.
But life is full of oddball events and anyone with road trip experience can easily imagine a resonant combination of road conditions, speed, suspension height/travel, braking, and steering, even at normal cruise let alone panic (let alone collision) conditions, which could overwhelm a tongue support rated at 1/10th the towing rating, and the level of disaster when it just breaks off completely cannot be overstated.
It’s 100% in conflict with the mindset of most truck owners/enthusiasts, who appreciate things that can take an absolute beating beyond their rating and (at least) not break off as the CT’s rear bumper did.
And I love the CT and would buy one if I could, but this point remains true so I would simply not tow anything heavy with it.
Yes if I owned one myself I would opt to not tow heavy loads which is unfortunate for those that would like to.
Doesn't matter if there is any clarification the hitch is still weak compared to any other truck
For now.
Weaker yes, Worse though? Still to be found out as more and more are on the roads and used in towing. I know people that tow with all the other Tesla models. Sometimes well above their weight limits with no issues.
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Weaker is worse.
True that especially in the case of towing. Good call out :)
I'm sure Tesla will figure it out. I feel this shouldn't have been a pickup truck this should have been an SUV. The rivian and especially the Ford lightning those are trucks. But it'll be interesting to see what happens with this thing :-)
We shall see!
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😂
Seems like the weight limit should be higher but glad it has been clarified
Agreed!
No he did not "Keep dropping it from 10 feet in the air onto a concrete barrier". It dropped once driving off a culvert and struck a concrete barrier. So the damage was from a single 5 or 6 ft drop. What you are referencing is a follow up video where he tested the F150 by dropping it on a concrete barrier 40 times, attacked it with an excavator and dropped one of the concrete barriers onto the hitch from 15 ft, ultimately bending the frame and then unbending it with out the hitch or any of the frame snapping off. I get that you are a Tesla based channel and I'm not trying to bash the brand, but your statement is blatantly false. If we want better vehicles we need to hold brands accountable and not try to gloss over their flaws.
All new models have room for improvement. Cybertruck is no exception.
Cast Aluminum will always be weaker than Steel Frame Construction. Although I have no concerns with the truck and towing for myself. I know that Tesla is always working behind the scenes improving things constantly.
100% It will only get better from here
You heard that and immediately stopped watching - it’s so apparent lmfao 😂😂
@@Savan12986 The F-150 was an empty bed ICE version. The CT between battery and 2/3 electric motors over the rear axles has easily the 3 tons of additional weight he should have put in the F-150 bed to approximate same forces. Force = mass * gravity. How the CT would have fared with the suspension helping would have been a good test w the concrete barrier drop. He jumped the CT at least 10 feet, far higher than the Ford, and despite all the weight, it handled it fine.
Sounds like they made a tradeoff. Like the truck, but they should and likely will improve the towing structure in future
Yeah I agree things will continue to be improved. The first version is always the worst version with Tesla. Can only get better from here.
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So in the space of 1foot you lie 1000 pounds of tow ball weight.
I don't think 1ft of leverage equates to 1000lb
I don’t think that’s correct. It looks like 2 feet further you loose 880lbs and from about 1 foot further you lose 725lbs and standard hitch distance you get the full 10% of tow capacity like most other trucks. So towing looks pretty much the same as most other trucks but once you start extending past that is where you have to stay cognizant of your weights. Not a big deal for some but maybe a big deal for others.
looks to be!
But in reality, 7 out of 10, probably 8 or even 9, cybertruck owners don't use it for towing. They just want to look rich.😂
You could say the same about all the people driving high, heavy duty trucks too. I’ve seen F350s going for over $100,000.
Most people yes won’t be towing much if at all with it. I know I would only occasionally tow with it and well below its 11,000lb limit anyhow
Interesting. They probably figured they have a big bed w the tail gate down so didn't want to add a lot of weight for all users.
Likely something to do with that!
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as long as you don't tow with it... cast aluminum sucks! the fact its not a steel frame is not only dumb... but also highly dangerous. many many people have ripped off there bumpers towing. look at jerry rig everthing.. for example.. not even going to say whistlingdiesel th-cam.com/video/NVAaFLVe0qQ/w-d-xo.html