i honestly really like dragon age 2 mainly for how the story is told from Varric to Cassandra. The chemistry these two have when talking and arguing is fun and a great storytelling device
Fun note; initially da:2 and inquisition were to be 2 parts of the same game, with hawke in the role of inquisitor, but fan backlash over the lack of creative control over hawke prompted bioware to make inquisition about a seperate character. The prophecy by flemeth in da:2 further confirms this, as hawke was initially supposed to drink from the well of sorrows and transform into a dragon himself, not morrigan.
Interesting..... I believe that this I the 1st time I have heard this tidbit, though with the line Flemeth made to hawk about having to leap to see if you could fly, I would’ve thought that hawke would’ve been the one to canonical be the one left in the fade and this to be potentially brought up later potentially in DA4. Though this would’ve been a massively different game. And would it have worked for a non mage hawke to become a dragon? And it would’ve made more sense for morrigan to become a dragon as her default specialty in origins is shape shifting.
I really wish they just let us have that power on at least one character. Seeing Morrigan do it was both awesome and made me green with envy. Perhaps the next character will be so lucky. But probably not. It's not really on dev's minds anymore to make players feel awesome. :(
Anyone realised this was what Varric and Cassandra argued about at Skyhold in inquisition? Maybe I'm just really stupid and didn't notice this before (since I didn't play DA2) but this is quite awesome. This is exactly the scene they were talking about.
Chayenne Oosterveld I’ve only played through inquisition once so far, due to playing on the Xbox 360, and the fear that my Xbox would catch fire just playing the game. Though if I do have time to do so, ( and I mean a TON of time, ) I would definitely do a LP of inquisition and the xbone version. Though I’d also would probably do a dragon keep recap episode as it’s been sooo long since I did origins and it will be a bit since I did this one.but yeah your completely right about that observation.
@Burnt Potatoes as someone who started to play DA:I with breadcrumbs of knowledge on the lore if the DA verse, before getting to play Origins and DA2, I'm loving the references to the past games in the series
@Burnt Potatoes I eventually did get the XBone version of the game sometime after these comment, and it is a far better experience as all of the DLC is there, and I didn’t get the feeling that the machine was going to catch fire trying to run the game.
@@topazdrake42 that’s one of the small things that I loved about DAI is they did the references to the prior games right and the moments are perfect for the scenarios. I can’t think of a reference off the top of my head that felt out of place. And if you paid attention to the 1st game almost anyone would’ve been able to pick up that something wasn’t right with black wall.
I only now realize, upon rewatching these scenes, that the book ( 15:34 ) is the same one they also slam on the table during the founding of the Inquisition. Love details like this!
@@dungeonmaster201 I might be wrong, but I don't think DA2 got something like ultimate edition. Or at least, when I searched for it online some time back(because I wanted to buy it myself for Xbox) I couldn't find any.
I love varric but the moment I heard the accent is when I fell in love with Cassandra..knowing she is one of the romance options in dai felt like one of my dreams just came true..loving it
It is, this takes place some time before the events of inquisition, this can be confirmed with a conversation between Varic and Cassandra in inquisition
@@dungeonmaster201 But at the end of 2 we see Leliana, even with the DLCs between them, she made a big change, quit fast. And Cassandra got the Scars quit fast xD
Looking back, I think one of the biggest issues that inquisition had going against it was that it was available on both at the time current and last gen.. I think if they kept it to the new gen things may have been better, but yeah Cassandra definitely look far better here than in the last game.
Maybe he'll rewrite the whole thing if he's an actual guy and if he got the rights to it. No doubt he'll change the whole Vampires' limits of the sun, blood, and making the fights more epic.
I believe if anyone can turn that disaster of a series around it be Varic just look at the scene where it was him going after his brother and one shoting lots of guards.
I believe when Varric was asked where the Champion is and he said "Which one?", there are more than one Champion of Kirkwall. Maybe both male and female Hawkes exist and Varric is just hiding them because he's fond of the Hawkes. Maybe no Hawke died while escaping Lothering, he just put in his book that a Hawke died. He hid one Hawke in Inquisition, maybe he can hide more?
Fanfic writers out there, get on it xD (I still hope someone will eventually implement the scene back in where it was implied at the end that Hawke and varric had something going on, if you don't romance anyone else)
@@dungeonmaster201 Since Dragon Age: Origins has the DLC "Leliana's Song" that lets us play as Leliana, who's to say BioWare can't make a DLC that that lets us play as Cassandra? :)
razer666L I liked lelianas song, DOA had a lot of great DLCs ( only 1 I didn’t like too much) of all the DLCs only 1, maybe 2 depending on how you look at it was relatively pointless to the overall plot of the dragon age series. In DA2 you had 2 DLCs and a bunch of weapon packs and as far as I’m concerned so far one of the two seemed pointless. I would’ve loved a DLC involving Cassandra that shows the events that happened after Cassandra left Varic maybe one leading to Varics capture. Or both.
Cassandra says he's free to go, and then brings him to the events in Dragon Age Inquisition, I guess Cassie and I have two different definitions of free lol 🤪 I always do Legacy during chapter two before Hawke loses her mother and Mark of the Assassin after meeting Leliana in the Viscount Keep. I didn't know there was any alternate dialogue about why Hawke helped Tallis, I always heard about how Tallis had Hawke's nose. I do find Felicia Day pretty, I definitely wouldn't mind if she appeared in Dreadwolf
I’ve usually do the 2 full DLCs either during the 3rd act right before the conclusion of the main game or after the completion of the main game. Though I heard that many dialogs for both DLCs can vary depending on which act you do the DLCs in.
For everyone's entertainment, I'm working on a Dragon Age 2 Reboot and one idea that my sister and I worked on is using the whole "Narration" idea to add a bit of humor. Not during the cutscenes mind you, during the Game Over Screens. Taking a leaf out of Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time every time you die in the game and cut to the game over screen we get comments from Varric and Cassandra on how we clearly didn't die during this part of the game. And have a number of hidden Easter eggs if you die a lot during, say, the Dragon at the Bone Pit Varric will comment that this fight was so hard that if felt like they died several times during the fight. There would also be a little mini arc as Cassandra starts off getting annoyed with Varric at the start of the game but at the end she's become invested and gets worried Hawke and co actually died. And other funny bits like having one line of Varric saying "And then we all mercurially got back up and continued the fight like nothing happened." Or "So we decided to play dead until they lowered their guard." Sometimes this will be removed like during the boss fight with the Serial Killer who killed our mom and other serious moments.
Is the scene after Act 2 different if you don't duel the Arishok. In the one I had, it seemed like Cassandra was disappointed in Hawke, rather than impressed.
Yes, the cut scenes can vary depending on your choices through the game, these Cassandra/ Varic cutscenes were from my Let’s play of the game. And there are multiple responses that Cassandra can have regarding the scene with the Arishock depending on how you deal with him and your gender.
I’m not exactly sure, but I think it happened in one of the pieces of DA Lore that I never bothered to read.. either that or they decided to leave it to our imagination. Kinda expected her to go…. You wanna know how I got this Scar????
They probably added to give her more "character", to give her a more unique look or something like that, they did something similar with Geralt in the first Witcher game and that was the reason the devs gave for his face scars at the time. I think between the ending of DA2 and the start of Inquisition there's like a couple of weeks, maybe a month. It's never explained but maybe she got the scars while fighting demons after the explosion.
It could be the work of the dark background and the light that shines through the roof throughout the cutscenes throughout, cause if you look at the scene where they are outside it seems a bit different
Hmm I might be remembering wrong , but I thought Varic said something along the lines that he volunteered to go along once a big ol hole in the sky happened.
Everyone looked better before Inquisition, I believe Bioware's uncanny animations began with Inquisition, they seem stiff but still abit lifelike and ended with Mass Effect Andromeda
Jordan Robinson that could also be that she didn’t have a scars in this, it also makes me wonder how badly did Cassandra screw up to get those scars in such a short time frame.
BioWare: We’ve got a problem guys. Anita says that portraying women as good looking in video games is offensive and sexist. So in Inquisition we need to make Cassandra and every other woman look either plain or ugly. Let’s do the same thing in Mass Effect andromeda too
samdiego I don’t know, I thought they did a good job with a few like Josephine, and according to some of what people have told me they had explained what happened to Cassandra between game.
dungeonmaster201 Josephine was kinda average looking but of course that’s just the matter of opinion. However notice that they had her and basically every other woman wear unflattering clothing. If this were the previous 2 games, she would’ve at least showed some cleavage or wore something that accentuated her figure. Look at the way they had Leliana dress in the previous 2 games, she dressed really sexy. So did Morrigan. Granted, Morrigan still had the same outfit, but there were some subtle yet noticeable changes that decrease her sex appeal. Just compare the way all women in general look in the first two games to Inquisition and you’ll definitely notice. Andromeda was the same story
Varric sums up entire mages problem in one sentence
"The more she squeezed, the more they resisted,
the more they resisted, the tighter she squeezed"
Instablaster
Made me think of "The more you tighten your grip, Tarkin, the more star systems will slip through your fingers."
da2 cass: i'm not interested in stories >:0
dai cass: it's... disgusting, and *magnificent.*
Ohhh the bruise on Varric's nose in DA:I is from Cassandra throwing the book?! What a cool detail
i honestly really like dragon age 2 mainly for how the story is told from Varric to Cassandra. The chemistry these two have when talking and arguing is fun and a great storytelling device
Especially for that part where it is Varrics personal quest where he goes full fiction.
@@dungeonmaster201 What really happened was much sadder. Varric didn't get the satisfaction he wanted and fiction is all that can comfort him.
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Cassandra: She must have know!
Varric: Bold of you to assume Hawke knows anything...
Fun note; initially da:2 and inquisition were to be 2 parts of the same game, with hawke in the role of inquisitor, but fan backlash over the lack of creative control over hawke prompted bioware to make inquisition about a seperate character.
The prophecy by flemeth in da:2 further confirms this, as hawke was initially supposed to drink from the well of sorrows and transform into a dragon himself, not morrigan.
Interesting..... I believe that this I the 1st time I have heard this tidbit, though with the line Flemeth made to hawk about having to leap to see if you could fly, I would’ve thought that hawke would’ve been the one to canonical be the one left in the fade and this to be potentially brought up later potentially in DA4. Though this would’ve been a massively different game. And would it have worked for a non mage hawke to become a dragon?
And it would’ve made more sense for morrigan to become a dragon as her default specialty in origins is shape shifting.
I really wish they just let us have that power on at least one character. Seeing Morrigan do it was both awesome and made me green with envy.
Perhaps the next character will be so lucky. But probably not. It's not really on dev's minds anymore to make players feel awesome. :(
Welp now I understand the whole stab you in the book phrase.
Meme Destroyer in this case, quite literally.
"Don't you mean, 'the back'?"
@@Xenithn Or Bull with a bread knife. Shit's probably a dagger to him.
Anyone realised this was what Varric and Cassandra argued about at Skyhold in inquisition? Maybe I'm just really stupid and didn't notice this before (since I didn't play DA2) but this is quite awesome. This is exactly the scene they were talking about.
Chayenne Oosterveld I’ve only played through inquisition once so far, due to playing on the Xbox 360, and the fear that my Xbox would catch fire just playing the game. Though if I do have time to do so, ( and I mean a TON of time, ) I would definitely do a LP of inquisition and the xbone version. Though I’d also would probably do a dragon keep recap episode as it’s been sooo long since I did origins and it will be a bit since I did this one.but yeah your completely right about that observation.
@Burnt Potatoes as someone who started to play DA:I with breadcrumbs of knowledge on the lore if the DA verse, before getting to play Origins and DA2, I'm loving the references to the past games in the series
@Burnt Potatoes I eventually did get the XBone version of the game sometime after these comment, and it is a far better experience as all of the DLC is there, and I didn’t get the feeling that the machine was going to catch fire trying to run the game.
@@topazdrake42 that’s one of the small things that I loved about DAI is they did the references to the prior games right and the moments are perfect for the scenarios. I can’t think of a reference off the top of my head that felt out of place. And if you paid attention to the 1st game almost anyone would’ve been able to pick up that something wasn’t right with black wall.
*disgusted noise*
For some reason, despite the game being a rush job, I find the animation of Varric telling the story interesting.
I only now realize, upon rewatching these scenes, that the book ( 15:34 ) is the same one they also slam on the table during the founding of the Inquisition. Love details like this!
When Varic, said “before she stabs you in the book” in a conversation, in dragon age: inquisition, this is what he meant huh neat. 1:00
Damn, they really improved Cassandra from da 2- da 3
1:24-That should be a meme.
16:08-If she wanted Varric to mention it, she’ll have to pay for that DLC
Or buy the ultimate edition. Or whatever the edition that contains all the DLC material was called.
@@dungeonmaster201 I might be wrong, but I don't think DA2 got something like ultimate edition. Or at least, when I searched for it online some time back(because I wanted to buy it myself for Xbox) I couldn't find any.
I love varric but the moment I heard the accent is when I fell in love with Cassandra..knowing she is one of the romance options in dai felt like one of my dreams just came true..loving it
Its especially interesting if your a mage and pursue a romance with her. And trying to destroy the chantry.
So was this a day before Inqustion started. Cause that be great.
It is, this takes place some time before the events of inquisition, this can be confirmed with a conversation between Varic and Cassandra in inquisition
@@dungeonmaster201 But at the end of 2 we see Leliana, even with the DLCs between them, she made a big change, quit fast. And Cassandra got the Scars quit fast xD
@@astralaris8712 Varric also got a visible neck
Not a day before.This is varrics interrogation.After that cassandra take varric to temple of sacred ashes to tell the story to divine first hand
“But what do I know, I just tell stories.”
"A blood mage!"
Girl stop talking bad about the precious Merrill.
Blake chandler the greatest hypocrisy is when you make Wynn a blood mage In Origins
dungeonmaster201 I've never thought of doing that. I'm gonna do it my next playthrough for the sake of irony.
Blake chandler been a few years but I think I did. That in my Origins play through
Well her brother was killed by a blood mage so I can't exactly blame her for the bias.
She is though. It's even clear on her specialization. What's your problem?
If only cassandra looked this way in inquisition.
Looking back, I think one of the biggest issues that inquisition had going against it was that it was available on both at the time current and last gen.. I think if they kept it to the new gen things may have been better, but yeah Cassandra definitely look far better here than in the last game.
1:23 She said this of how well endowed Varric described Bethany. Change my mind.
@ 1:23? Bethany wasn’t even mention at this point is your time stamp correct? As this was cutscenes with a female mage hawke.
@@dungeonmaster201 Play the prologue. Notice anything?
If you look a funny detail is added to Varric's embellishment of the story.
Verrick could read me twilight and I would probably actually like it unlike right now
Maybe he'll rewrite the whole thing if he's an actual guy and if he got the rights to it. No doubt he'll change the whole Vampires' limits of the sun, blood, and making the fights more epic.
I believe if anyone can turn that disaster of a series around it be Varic just look at the scene where it was him going after his brother and one shoting lots of guards.
I love how the stories are connected it could be so much more if bioware tired
I hope DA 3 will bring my favorite warden back
DA3? isnt that inquisition?
Mission failed
Only bring the Warden back, if they don't voice the character.
I bet that when Varric talks about Viviene Cassandra is inmediatly fangirling
I believe when Varric was asked where the Champion is and he said "Which one?", there are more than one Champion of Kirkwall. Maybe both male and female Hawkes exist and Varric is just hiding them because he's fond of the Hawkes.
Maybe no Hawke died while escaping Lothering, he just put in his book that a Hawke died.
He hid one Hawke in Inquisition, maybe he can hide more?
Fanfic writers out there, get on it xD
(I still hope someone will eventually implement the scene back in where it was implied at the end that Hawke and varric had something going on, if you don't romance anyone else)
then the maker sends the inquisitor.
Then that Inquisitor was male
@@TheVoidedRealm Was male?
@@icemanjr.5819 Indeed he was this is the way
Varric is the friend everyone needs. 😂
Wish we could play as her
it would have made for an interesting DLC if at a miniamal, well at least we have her for the sequel& she quite an interesting character.
@@dungeonmaster201 Since Dragon Age: Origins has the DLC "Leliana's Song" that lets us play as Leliana, who's to say BioWare can't make a DLC that that lets us play as Cassandra? :)
razer666L I liked lelianas song, DOA had a lot of great DLCs ( only 1 I didn’t like too much) of all the DLCs only 1, maybe 2 depending on how you look at it was relatively pointless to the overall plot of the dragon age series. In DA2 you had 2 DLCs and a bunch of weapon packs and as far as I’m concerned so far one of the two seemed pointless. I would’ve loved a DLC involving Cassandra that shows the events that happened after Cassandra left Varic maybe one leading to Varics capture. Or both.
But you do could, only in battle tho. In DAI you could switch between your companions and your character to play as.
She really stabbed him in the book~~
Word arrived from across The Sea that The Hero of Ferelden had Defeated The Blight.
Cassandra says he's free to go, and then brings him to the events in Dragon Age Inquisition, I guess Cassie and I have two different definitions of free lol 🤪
I always do Legacy during chapter two before Hawke loses her mother and Mark of the Assassin after meeting Leliana in the Viscount Keep. I didn't know there was any alternate dialogue about why Hawke helped Tallis, I always heard about how Tallis had Hawke's nose. I do find Felicia Day pretty, I definitely wouldn't mind if she appeared in Dreadwolf
I’ve usually do the 2 full DLCs either during the 3rd act right before the conclusion of the main game or after the completion of the main game. Though I heard that many dialogs for both DLCs can vary depending on which act you do the DLCs in.
For everyone's entertainment, I'm working on a Dragon Age 2 Reboot and one idea that my sister and I worked on is using the whole "Narration" idea to add a bit of humor. Not during the cutscenes mind you, during the Game Over Screens.
Taking a leaf out of Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time every time you die in the game and cut to the game over screen we get comments from Varric and Cassandra on how we clearly didn't die during this part of the game. And have a number of hidden Easter eggs if you die a lot during, say, the Dragon at the Bone Pit Varric will comment that this fight was so hard that if felt like they died several times during the fight.
There would also be a little mini arc as Cassandra starts off getting annoyed with Varric at the start of the game but at the end she's become invested and gets worried Hawke and co actually died.
And other funny bits like having one line of Varric saying "And then we all mercurially got back up and continued the fight like nothing happened." Or "So we decided to play dead until they lowered their guard."
Sometimes this will be removed like during the boss fight with the Serial Killer who killed our mom and other serious moments.
Is the scene after Act 2 different if you don't duel the Arishok. In the one I had, it seemed like Cassandra was disappointed in Hawke, rather than impressed.
Yes, the cut scenes can vary depending on your choices through the game, these Cassandra/ Varic cutscenes were from my Let’s play of the game.
And there are multiple responses that Cassandra can have regarding the scene with the Arishock depending on how you deal with him and your gender.
Cassandra had a perfect face with no scars in Dragon Age 2, but got scars in Dragon Age Inquisition. Where did she get her scars from? Anyone knows?
I’m not exactly sure, but I think it happened in one of the pieces of DA Lore that I never bothered to read.. either that or they decided to leave it to our imagination.
Kinda expected her to go…. You wanna know how I got this Scar????
They probably added to give her more "character", to give her a more unique look or something like that, they did something similar with Geralt in the first Witcher game and that was the reason the devs gave for his face scars at the time. I think between the ending of DA2 and the start of Inquisition there's like a couple of weeks, maybe a month. It's never explained but maybe she got the scars while fighting demons after the explosion.
The DA2 Cassie has a glow about her, and Inquisition Cass has the shine/scar.
Give me DA2 Cassie with scars, and I'm in heaven
It could be the work of the dark background and the light that shines through the roof throughout the cutscenes throughout, cause if you look at the scene where they are outside it seems a bit different
Given her background, occupation, and disposition, I wouldn't be surprised if she got into a fight between post-DAII and pre-DAI.
No wonder Varric not like Cassandra...
XD
i like da2, the world design is not so good becayse devs didnt have time, but the character design, storywriting and gameplay was pretty good
Yes, we need the Champion bad... like, REAL bad... without the Champion, we all die!
That is why in Inquisition, the Champion is nowhere to be found.
He is to be found tho, not that long after the prologue
so... he's free to go and yet he's her prisoner at the start of DAI? How did they explain that away?
Hmm I might be remembering wrong , but I thought Varic said something along the lines that he volunteered to go along once a big ol hole in the sky happened.
forgot Cassandra already showed in DA2 lol
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Man, Cassandra looked MUCH better here than in Inquisition
Everyone looked better before Inquisition, I believe Bioware's uncanny animations began with Inquisition, they seem stiff but still abit lifelike and ended with Mass Effect Andromeda
I prefer her in Inquisition. She looks like a warrior instead of a pretty girl with a trendy hair like in DA2.
Its called aging
@@sagivalia5041 Varric looks better in Inquisition.
@@areelu_mommy8318inquisition takes place directly after 2
In terms of personality cassandra in DA2 was MUCH better than Inquisition by miles.
Ugh
Is it me or does she look better here than she does in inquisition?🤷🏽♂️😂
Jordan Robinson i think shes younger wonder how did she get the scars
Willian Andrade this takes place not long before inquisition I think
Jordan Robinson that could also be that she didn’t have a scars in this, it also makes me wonder how badly did Cassandra screw up to get those scars in such a short time frame.
It's just lesser quality graphic. It always makes character more doll-like.
I'll politely disagree. She looks better to me in inquisition
Cassandra looked better in DA2 than in inquisition
BioWare: We’ve got a problem guys. Anita says that portraying women as good looking in video games is offensive and sexist. So in Inquisition we need to make Cassandra and every other woman look either plain or ugly. Let’s do the same thing in Mass Effect andromeda too
Took me a minute to understand the comment as that’s a name I’ve thought fell into obscurity.
dungeonmaster201 well you do know that that was in fact the reason why all women were unattractive in all their more recent games, right?
samdiego I don’t know, I thought they did a good job with a few like Josephine, and according to some of what people have told me they had explained what happened to Cassandra between game.
dungeonmaster201 Josephine was kinda average looking but of course that’s just the matter of opinion. However notice that they had her and basically every other woman wear unflattering clothing. If this were the previous 2 games, she would’ve at least showed some cleavage or wore something that accentuated her figure. Look at the way they had Leliana dress in the previous 2 games, she dressed really sexy. So did Morrigan. Granted, Morrigan still had the same outfit, but there were some subtle yet noticeable changes that decrease her sex appeal. Just compare the way all women in general look in the first two games to Inquisition and you’ll definitely notice. Andromeda was the same story
samdiego memory is a bit fuzzy but wasn’t Cassandra a romance come with a nude scene?
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