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- me and the bestie!!!!!!! this playthrough was with purple hawke so not the most sympathetic responses sometimes but it is what it is. also includes some of the arishok's ambient dialogue
timestamps:
00:00 - first meeting w/ him and javaris
2:37 - asking about why they came to kirkwall, the triumvirate, the tal vashoth etc
7:29 - after saarebas quest
8:59 - start of act 2, beginning of saar qamek quest
12:20 - after saar qamek quest, "and you should all be grateful" speech, scene will play 3 times because i wanted to include every dialogue option
18:57 - qunari delegate missing
20:13 - after ser varnell's rally
21:39 - saemus converting
23:52 - meeting the arishok with aveline
27:40 - ending of act 2, at the viscount's
31:07 - he dieded :(
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Still the best looking qunari ever designed, it's not a competition
Man I wish we could live in an alternate universe where DA was fire and you can create a Qunari that looks as cool as this
Wrong. Iron Bull
I would say, he AND Iron Bull are.
@@FimbulSleipnir Iron Bull looks like if Qunari had a down syndrome.
@@libertyprime1614 I'm inclined to agree to an extent. He looks more alien than other races, however his proportions seem... off-- not just in his body, but also his face.
He's threatening all the nobles, then he sees Hawke and is like,"'Sup, Hawke?" XD
He is just hate the nobles that's all, lol
Lol I like the arishok he's very to the point,he hates the nobles because they are greedy and pointless,he hates the city because it's disorderly.
@@DavidSantos-ix1hu and he likes Hawke for his competence.
Gods the Qun was strong then
I was hoping to see Sten in Veilguard...I was disappointed...by many things.
Just a worthy antagonist, one who is the hero of their own story. That is good writing people.
"I have a growing lack of disgust for you"
I'm stealing that
Imagine a Qunari like this as our companion, stronger than Sten, more Qunari than Iron Bull, and better written than Taash.
Better written than Taash? That's pretty easy to do lol
@@warchiefvenomn7612 exactly, repeating "that's messed up" or the classic "you don't get to tell me who I am". Loving the game and the rest of the characters, but wtf were they thinking with this? lol
I wish we had just had the dragon king as our companion instead
I really like this design and the fight in the game trailer was so awesome. I played DAO and DAI because of this and DAVG doesn't pique my interest.
Bruh, another qunari warrior? It would be cooler a Saarebas
This guy is infinitely more interesting, well-written, respectable and honourable than the entire Veilguard companion cast
THIS IS HOW QUNARI SHOULD FUCKING LOOK, MY GOD...
Look, sound, behave.
Wrong. Iron Bull
@FimbulSleipnir trolling used to be believable.
@@FimbulSleipnir Bull was already meh.
Naaaahhh. just make them look like black people and have identity crisis, Forget the Qun lol
THIS is the Qunari.
Not that horned Barbie doll stuff they gave us in "Veilguard".
This is an unplayable characters dummy, you cant even create a qunari that looks like this
@@markedone494 Inquisition had the right Qun
@@markedone494 And thats the frickin problem
@@markedone494 yeah that's the problem lol they look too human
They should've designed the actual race in general like in dragon age 2
Cisquisition isn't any better.
arishok my beloved. truly one of the most compelling character in this series imo. thank you for compiling his dialogue!
Rick Wasserman deserves more credit for this role. He brings out such a majesty to those that live under the Qun and presents legitimately compelling points about the benefits of Qun philosophy. In a series with great antagonists like Loghain, Corypheus, Meredith, Anders, and Solas, the Arishok is definitely up there with them for me.
22:04 "They hunger for purpose." I've been looking for this line for so, so long. Thank you!
i got u 🫡🫡🫡
This is when the Qunari were the coolest, Inqusition still cool, Veilguard... 😒
I hated the Inquisition Qunari. They were such a far departure from what we had in DA2.
@@mszhellfyre5743 Probably because they didn't have much to do with the story unlike in 2. The closest you get is with Iron Bull and you can have him just straight up leave them. Trespasser was awesome though!
Wrong. Iron Bull
@zacharybartolo5111 I didn't like his design either. I agree the Qunari from Tresspasser did look pretty decent.
@FimbulSleipnir The Iron Bull had a tiny head.
At the end of Act 2
Aveline: “You lived your life for the Qun, you gonna die for some Elves?”
Arishok: “Someone is.”
I didn’t understand… can someone explain?
@@driftingsnow23 He is basically fighting over a few elves knowing he will lose. and I am making a Game of Thrones reference with the characters the Hound
@@driftingsnow23 The final straw involved elves that ran to the Qunari to allegedly avoid being sentenced for murder of a noble. The Arishok was face to face with Aveline, representing the city watch, to demand the elves be turned over... them declaring a wish to convert to the Qun makes it tantamount to asking him to turn over Qunari and abandon them to the city... and yeah.. someone did die for those elves.
Thank you for this long video! I love the Arishok, best character in the game. Wish our Qunari inquisitor was even a fourth as cool as him
HARDDDDD agree, they did such a fantastic job with his character!!
To be fair, The qunari Inquisitor was, and pretty much HAD to be tal.vashoth.... outside the qun. Otherwise there would be absolutely no reason to be present at the explosion that started the whole story. One of the major subplots of Inquisition was an examination of what it meant to be qunari and reject the qun...... Iron bull was specifically an infiltration agent that had spent way too long out in the field... He had already submitted to re-education once before he even met us..... And our actions determine his final fate. Inquisition's writing was almost but not quite on par with the first game.... The subtext of whether you were playing a human what with all their attachments to the chantry, or an elf with their attachment to both their clan and solas and his budding rebellion... Or the qunari mercenary dealing with iron bull and his crisis of faith. As far as I can tell the only plot line where they really dropped the ball was the dwarves whom they haven't given proper attention to since origins in my humble opinion.
its all been downhill for the Qun since this gigachad died...
Guys, forget the perfect designs for Qunari, look at that Dialogue with capital D!!! What the hell happened to Bioware.
All their talent left, and was replaced by pretentious activist filth that brought ruin to the name. Makes you wish you could be Viddathari; the Qunari of DA:O & DA2 seem so based, these days.
@@TheStraightestWhitestTo be fair, I don’t think it’s a decision they make. It’s more like a disorder. For most of them anyway..
Praising DA2, the game with dialogue such as “I want a sandwich”, is certainly a choice.
I love the interactions with the Arishok. He shows such conviction and depth in the Qun, Qunari, and Antaam. Compared to the medieval-esque peoples of Ferelden and Kirkwall, the Qunari appear as a wholly new society. A Spartan, minimalistic, theocratic order that maintains a constant stalemate with the strongest magocracy in the world. And keeps growing.
Either he dies in Kirkwall, or ends up in worse conditions in his Homeland during DA:I according to Varric, all because Isabela escapes with the Tome off-screen.
I think it's better lore wise to fight and kill him at least he can be respected as a great warrior who fought and was defeated by another great warrior his legacy would be looked upon more favourably rather then being demoted and most likely either offed himself out of shame or was executed.
@@irishboi7100Canon timeline before failguard, hawke duels arishokk and wins. Sten then takes over as the new arishok.
When you defeat them Varric will say the Quanri came later and said "we will never talk about this again" which in their terms was a sort of diplomatic apology
The Arishok alone is one of the reasons I replayed DA2 so many times. Watching this makes me wanna go play right now. Hands down one of the greatest villains in video games ever!
"You alone are basalit-an!" One of the greatest compliments any of the characters I ever played ever received.
i have growing lack of disgust for you is one of my favorite lines in dragon age :D
once more THIS is what we deserved with the qunari.
what an absolute chad this dude was
Damn, son. The Qunari were so cool once.
This is the most beautiful man I’ve ever seen in all of Dragon Age.
genuinely could not agree more
As much as i like Bull's character, the writing for the Qunari in Inquisition was pretty bland. I was hoping to see characters like the Arishok and the Tal-Vashoth. They shed some light and info on who and how they are.
i agree, there’s definitely some info bull drops in DAI that i thought made the qunari more dynamic and unique, but overall i love the DA2 qunari so much more 😭 especially the design
@eli1964 It helps that we get to see more of them and what they do than we do in Inquisition, where Iron Bull is really just like Sten from Origins in being the "token Qunari" character, albeit with a more dynamic personality that adds nuance to those under the Qun. Dragon Age 2 places more focus on society at large as seen within the city of Kirkwall, and because of that, it has the best depiction of the Qunari, a people focused centrally around the wants of their society, which make them a greay foil to the individualistic Hawke.
He's ment to be more of a spy that's why he's so blase about the qun ,arishok however is a born leader,he's strong and direct,intelligent and anilitical,while bull was a cudgel arishok is a computer.
Whole inquisition game was shitty. Like mass effect andromeda.
They whitewashed the Quanri so hard lmao
I didn't actually realise you could have optional conversations with him between quests, I think I was a little scared to interact with him after he's told us to leave 😅
understandable, being surrounded by 6+ feet tall hunks of muscle that are armed does seem intimidating
@@weedragonauts4729 my dwarf warden wouldn't give a crap. height means nothing.
God! I love the Arishok's voice
Sounds like Kratos
There are still stench of great writings from origins in DA2 . I miss such tone of dialogues and conversation they had. They are very well "matured" and doesnt felt like AI nor High School level of writing.
Some examples from the DA2 Arishok:
-"that is why I do not simply walk from this pustule of a city"
-"the qun from an Elf..? the madness of this place"
-"I have growing lack of disgust from you.."
-"To your limited understanding, it is not. you fear of soldiers that arrive to remove your pitiable vices"
-"I admire conviction with a focus, but your kind are truly committed to weakness"
DA4:
-"So....I'm non binary."
i mean i think it’s cool that taash is nonbinary but it sucked that that was basically the entirety of DAV’s qunari-related storylines lol. the writing did seem very high school
@@eli1964 Modern games shoehorn in conversation about gender that feel like they were ripped straight from a San Francisco living room. Looking at you, Veilguard...Actually, Origins brings up a LOT of social and political themes but it does this in a smart and lore accurate way, the racism against the elves and Lanaya lines when you answer that some humans regret what they did and she questions that if they regret, why they don't do nothing about it? (and many other things that happen in the Dalish Camp) the political game between the chantry, the mages and the templars many comparisons can be made with our political system in real life, the right wing vs left wing in the dwarves main quest and the way they let you decide what you think is best without inducing or demanding you to choose side A or B. In Veilguard it's a mess out of the universe setting, out of touch, out of context, it's a caricature, an unrealistic way to represent things that actually exist.
Back when bioware had writers
The Arishok was unironically the coolesr part of the game.
THANK YOU! I couldn't manage to find a video with all his scenes anywhere else on TH-cam, this is appreciated 👍
ofc 🫡🙏🙏🙏 glad it’s helpful!!!
his voice lines still live in my head rent free
If you read into what happened you can say that Hawke manipulated the Arishok to make the move that ended in his defeat.
'In four years I have made no threat' he says after having said, 'Duty to the Qun may be fulfilled by sifting through the rubble.' xD
Just wanna echo what the other poster said. I've been looking for something like this forever. Thanks so much.
Here after seeing how Veilguard butchered the design of this badass race. Say what you want about DA2 but Arishok was the peak Qunari design.
God the Antaam in Veilguard don't even grasp at the quality writing of the old Qun based Quanari
Probably one of my favorite npcs in the entire series
maker the dialog was strong then
30:58 in my playthrough, i let the Arishok go. Mainly because i consider him a worthy foe. Hawke and the Arishok aren't friends, and never will be.
However, they still respect each other in some level. So in my headcanon, They will have a showdown, but not on this day.
look how they massacred my boy
actual qunari
I still remember th first time i played DA2 in 2011... I got so hooked to it and when i reached The arishok, I can't find the words to say how much I liked, everything... Then I played origins and while the story was good, i could never get into it fully because i was used to the combat in DA2... But I have to admit i liked how many spells and how they interacted with each other worked in origins
Arishok turns the BASED levels up to maximum. He suffered no degeneracy.
Now these qunari, not only do they look alien their philosophy and mannerisms are also alien
Be me that's how a fantasy race should be not just humans that look slightly different like in veilguard
This is why I love the Qunari; they're strange in their religious culture, and hard to understand at first, but grew to understand them better and appreciated them being so different and foreign... their originality helped them stand out from the cliché Tolkien roster of men, elves and dwarves. But that was before the Veilguard ruined them...
This is interesting.. I achieved the exact same thing, but with almost entirely different dialogue choices.
iirc it’s only about 6 or so dialogue/game choices that are actually needed to earn his respect (bringing fenris to the first meeting, telling the arishok about his missing envoy in act 2, etc) the rest doesn’t matter!
@@eli1964 That's such a trip, I never used fenris. He never met the arishok in my playthroughs. Another reason I love seeing this video, never saw him interact with the arishok.
one of the more memable characters of DA2 i hope when we meet "stan" again we see how well he is fitting in with his promotion
I remember to be disappointed in DA 2 at the time, but now after veilguard, well DA2 had its flaws but honestly what the old Bioware did in 14 months is far FAR better then what new Bioware did in 10 years. 10 years Carl .
And according to art book in Dredwoolf we could actually try to negotiate truce between Tevinter and Qun and meat Archon and new Arishok ( who was Sten in DAO)
When he's voiced by Killbane from SR TT.
I almost forgot these interactions, the writing is superb, but remembering them now make the comparison with most "modern games audience writing" even more sore.
Hearing the dialogues in DA Veilguard feels like they were wrote by kids in primary school.
I miss him.
the way he says 'you' is just so kdjhfgks
YEAH GODDDDDDD
Why do I doubt that the writing in the new Dragon Age game will be on this level? By the looks of it, it won't be.
Back when BioWare had balls
Something funny about DA2's redemption coming from how bad Inquisition and Veilguard were. (Some will say Inquisition was good, but it was a precursor to all the garbage of Veilguard).
I love Arishok
28:00 what you want to say when you walk into a room for of politicians
Veilguard is a f disgrace. This level of quality is just gone.
This is a far better villain than Corypheus or the Evanuris.
Corypheus was cool af, although I definitely agree in the end his writing fell flat as he was killed too easily. Not to mention there wasn't a real sense of urgency due to inquisitions gameplay style of resource farming and running around with 50 million side quests.
All who said da2 is bad game they are wrong
They have no idea how wrong they are. This game is class.
Player it all the way through, it's bad compared to Origins.
@@AndrewRyan-zv7zb Wrong.
@@AndrewRyan-zv7zb It's not Origins, but it's not horrible. I enjoyed it for what it was...except all the damned spiders!
No. They are right. It is an absolutely abysmal game full of some of the worst cookie cutter copy-paste design ever. It Mass Effect-izes the Dragon Age setting too. Its a comprehensively bad game.
That doesnt mean you cant find something to like about it. I liked Hawkes interactions with Varric, Merrill and Aveline and his romance with Isabela. I liked how, despite its ugly, crap, copypasted environment it was the first time Bioware told a "long-term" storyline - even if each act is only tangentially tied together.
I dont fault anyone for finding fun things to like about it. I found enough myself to complete the game.
But its an absolutely awful game made by a company that rushed its team and pushed them in a new direction to "mass-market-effect-appeal" to a new audience. "yA PUsH a BuTtOn, sUMthIN AWsUm HaPpENs!"
One of my favorites lines from him is when he responds to Varric's brother, ....."NO"....
Not his brother, but I understand all dwarves look the same.
Arishok needs to fix his posture fr
I still preferred them without the Horns. I don't really like the idea of naked painted barbarians, I'd rather they wore full armor, Or exotic armor. Like Sten.
But you still feel the same about them as you do about Sten. Brutality, pragmatism, and Honor. When you talk to Arishok you feel like this guy is the leader of Sten and Sten bows to him. He could be his father. He talks the same way as Sten but damn you feel like you have to weigh your words even more.
Every time I talked to him I got goosebumps and sweat from nerves and I chose my words very carefully.
However, in DA3 the Qunari don't act like Qunari anymore. Iron Bull is not QUnari. This big cuddly bear. A human in the body of a Qunari. DA4 and cartoons the same. In the Qunari it wasn't their appearance that was the most interesting, but their alien mentality and pragmatism incredibly alien to humans. and they made them known as Tieflings. Probably because of their horns.
Thanks big dawg just got the achievement cuz of this
From this epicness of a character and portrayal of a fantasy race... to that thing in Inquisition, how was it called? redbull something?
It gets worse in Veilguard.
@@shadowstarz3651Faaaaaaaar worse
His voice is so ridiculously hot
this is the kind of writing that DA lost with veilguard.... i mean didnt any of their writers PLAY the games???? Jesus where is the Ben-Hasserath when you need them eh?
The Arishok 🫡
Welp none of this matters now.
What a chad.
i like 24:00 - you can come but not in this number (5), ok, 3 people go away and 4 come in making it 6 => thats acceptable :D
He so fine 😅😳
RIGHT??! I was sooo upset when you couldn't romance them when I first played. 😭
The Arishok was him. We shouldn't have won that fight no matter class we were. Not really.
Mage definitely should. Like how Hawke kills the arishok in the trailer. By tearing the arishok's arms off with magic
Honestly, i would prefer if they had stayed with a Sven like design: Just tall dark humanoids with stern faces. Hate these Hellboy like designs.
I hoped to go to Par Vollen in Veilguard, maybe in the next game.
Okay I completed this game and found some things to like about it - the ability to earn the Arishoks respect and his character writing being some of them. However......
Nothing symbolizes the absolutely awful state of gaming today with such badly written, agenda driven trash that Dragon Age 2 is now being hailed as a acceptable effort in comparison.
This entire game was massacred on release, rightly so, for its lazy, copypaste wave-based action oriented gameplay & design and its blatant attempt to appeal to the action market at their RPG fans expense.
Gaming today is so bad that Larian - master of horny cringe writing, which BG3 is no exception - is now being held up as some top tier game development standard.
No, if you want truly excellent writing go play Planescape: Torment. Baldurs Gate 3 is amateur hour by comparison.
DA2 didn't even have good writing really, The Arishok is a compelling character adrift in a sea of mediocrity.
Which is hilarious when he's constantly complaining about how much he hates Kirkwall. I hate Kirkwall too dude.
@@whitewall2253Yes most of the writing in the game was ranging from sub-par to outright awful. The screenshot of cross eyed hawke with the "dragon?" conversation wheel was very apt.
@@jmlaw8888 Hawke was fun if you played aggressive or diplomatic. I liked how "neutral" spoken dialogues would change based off your primary personality. The game did right by making the Friendship-Rivalry system as opposed to a simple approval bar, probably should have made it more clear that rivalry was a good thing. The quests involving Hawke's family, the Qunari, the boss fights, and certain companion's rivalry paths were the highlights. The Act 3 Mage-Templar conflict, the repeating maps, and the waves of weak enemies was not.
I think out of any game in the series, a honest remake with a competent (non-ideologue) team would see the public opinion for it change dramatically.
Remember the trailer? Then all we got was this shit.
couldn't stand this dude and his arrogance
Aye the Qunari are dafties. Then again most everyone in this game and universe in general is too.
So many people whining about veilguard lol
and these are just the comments i haven’t removed 😅
You might know how to earn his respect points, But the conversation with him is a little... awful...
Well, part of it is because the common tongue of Thedas is his second language. The second is that he sees all non-Qunari as inferior, though if you gain his respect, you are seen as a respected outsider, but you're still an outsider nonetheless.
@@shadowstarz3651 the Qunari are not a race, for example the Viddathari.
@@fozzes The qunari ARE a race. You literally can pick "qunari" when you pick a race in DA:I. It is both the name for the race AND the religion, with the Viddathari being followers of Qun but not of qunari race. The race itself is always called qunari within DA lore, with specification made that their ancestors at some point were called Kossith, before the Qun, but not have been called that for a long time.
Why is it awful?
@@mahapralaya999 Inquisition made many retcons to Dragon Age lore. It's pretty bad in terms of writing
and they say da 2 was a bad game, now go play your da 4 clowns :D