Sorry for not putting a warning about the Trypophobia at 11:40 folks. I figured it would be relevant to the conversation, but just skip ahead to 11:52 if you wanna avoid em.
It’s so funny how Aggregor was this frightening presence for most of the characters in this arc and yet you called him Greg for most of this breakdown 😂
No kidding he's planet doesn't have dishonesty and conflict!(wich humanity should take notes on) Call me sucker, but I like utopias not dystopias. Anyone Else?
The thing that always bugged me about this episode even as a kid is that Greg straight up killed a well recognized plumber and suffered no consequences. He basically killed a cop and none of the plumbers try to initially locate his last location and do investigations. Maybe Greg threw out the evidence but it feels like no one cared
@@kumarsaurabh9216 nah that was hella long even if the plumbers are intergalactic they should have files or tabs on each of their enforcers or officers to know their current situations and everything. By bare minimum someone should have been sent to investigate the dudes position. The only other possible reason why the plumbers weren’t aware about the dude is if aggregor had something to do with it e.g impersonation
The reason he drained that Geochelone Aerio dry was because when Osmosians absorbs powers they only keep them temporarily. However if the take all that creatures energy and lifeforce, they keep them permanently. Albeit at 1/10 the strength of the original.
Kuro I feel obligated to let you know how great these videos are, these breakdowns are what got me back into the franchise I love so much. Thank you for these.
For those wondering "why is Alien X Green", it was an error but I like to imagine that the reason he was Green was because in Ultimate Alien, it's revealed ben had alien x locked so that albedo couldn't access him, and I like to think that was the shows way of hinting at it, maybe the Green shading was to show that it was inaccessible.
I like to think that Osmosians are kinda like venomous snakes where the children can’t control how much venom they inject making them more dangerous, it would explain why Kevin gets more power from absorbing aliens than Aggregor
12:31 I actually got why he was called "P'andor". Back at my secondary school I learned the story about Pandora's box and I pretty much got the reference
I love so much that Galapagus went on a FAKE rampage to get Bens attention. Like, he learned to use violence, but in a pasicifistic way, he tried to only damage property and not people.
Bivalvan here really sounds like the clones from Star Wars: the Clone Wars. Another example of a show where Dee Bradley Baker flexes his voice-acting talents to the max.
Yeah and make a show look like a local theater production in the process. Dee’s talented but not that talented. He was great in TCW tho, just not here.
@@jasonnguyen2575 I would blame that more on the voice direction than Dee personally. Also Dee has contributed to so many projects just by simply making animal sounds, which I might mention goes uncredited. You’re entitled to your opinion but I feel it’s unfair to say that Dee isn’t “that talented” simply because of the direction he was given.
I thought of it as aggregor's absorbed power would dissipate over time like kevin's did before mutation and he needed the machine and stuff to permanently absorb the powers into him.
Basically if osmosians absorbs DNA they’ll temporarily have the power of the being they absorbed but if technology is involved the dna is more permanent to the osmosian body
@@jvbon646 the way aggreagore absorb the power is far more better than kevin His amalgamation is perfect combine of 5 alien and he has full control over all power sometimes use both in the same times make it more powerful
According to Dwayne, Addwaitya was a Geochelone Aerio (Galapagus/Terraspin's species) philosopher and magician. They don't know that he became corrupt and just assume that he's kind and gentle like them. Dwayne also said that Addwaitya still has his natural wind abilities despite lacking holes
I have that phobia too. The patterns send subconscious messages to your brain stimulating discuss/discomfort. This defense/survival mechanism is activated because the patterns register to your brain as decay/decaying flesh.
Galapagus is my favourite part of this episode " eating grass and debating philosophy. Enjoying the great gift of life " " ly - ing ? " " Any p l u m *b* e r s in the vicinity? " The nickname turtle-face I just feel bad that everyone ganged up on him.
I appreciate the darker tone of this part of Ultimate Alien. The heroes save the day, sorta, both here and in Fame, only for the episode to end in a very somber note, where Aggregor wins, so it's like it was all for nothing. Aggregor earns some villain points by being so effective.
Something to note: When Magister Galil gets attacked by aggregor it got censored by the network for some reason. Years later I found this out but wondered why they did it because it wasn't implied that he died, I assumed he was just knocked out.
@@axelnilsson5124 I had rhe first 10 episodes of ua on dvd and even i didnt remember him appearing. The rest of uaf I only seen clips on TV long ago and youtube, I think I also saw juryriggs debut on TV.
The "powers" thing always bugged me too. I'm working on my own sci fi story and I usually say "abilities" over powers, if the ability is natural to the alien's species.
@@HuneeBruh I started drawing and publishing the first chapter, thanks for asking. Slower than I hoped due to life getting in the way but we're getting there.
23:05 hold up, the Ultimatrix is also missing Goop, Wildmutt (if you're feeling fancy enough to count that this early into the show, same with Heatblast), and Nanomech
YES WE CAN AGREE ON THIS! “Powers” would be a relative term based on what a species can’t normally do. Me spitting a certain distance would be considered a “power” by an alien that maybe can’t spit at all... natural biological functions shouldn’t be considered “powers” unless the rest of the species is unable to perform them.
I thought Animo with the Yeti was a whole episode. I knew either way we didn't see him capture him. It's way more fun to imagine that than see it. "You'd best square up, Yeti. You've no chance at besting me, Dr. Animo! LEFT HOOK!"
Bivalvan always felt like the leader of Andromeda five to me to be honest. Raad was egoistic anti-hero Pandor was straight up evil jerk Andreas was kinda gentle giant And Galapagus was straight up Wholesome to be honest. That's just my opinion though. What did you think? Kuro ?
Andreas definetly had an innocent streak but He was also prone to violence, So I got more hulk vibes from him. It makes sense bivalvan was a leader given his species is well revered on his homeworld and are scene with almost religous reverence/ as celebrities. Pandor I get the impression that he’s the only character that might properly belong in a prison. Then again his circumstances are worse than the others since he’s pretty much starving in that thing. Agreed with raad and galapagus!
i would say Ra'ad is more an "I do this my own way" type of guy, like he isn't really a team player. could be the reason why he lasted longer among the andromeda 5
There's something about the andromeda aliens that are very standout aesthetically. Can only really put it as, they look very action figure convertable lol. Not that it's a bad thing at all, I'm sure that was the idea for most alien designs since season 1 of classic proved to be money making. But these especially have a toy feel
I've got a lot of things to say about this: I'm really glad to see one of my favorite episodes of Ultimate Alien being covered. This episode reminded me why, from the Andromeda five, armadillo is my favorite alien (I much preferred the jackhammer earthquake arms to the OV drill arms), why Galapagos is my favorite character, that people friggin died on-screen in this franchise!!! Bivalvin seems to have a lot of experience breaking out of prison, seeing how he handles this situation (I see him sort of like the Kevin 11 of this group) I love how you call Aggregor "Greg" I have ONE problem with this breakdown video tho: At 21:30 you forgot about Goop!!!
considering that P'andor is confirmed to be a criminal from his planet, I wouldn't be surprised if Bivalvan is some kind of a fugitive or a spy from his planet.
Terraspin got done dirty. They explicitly say he is immune to magic and mana and show it, but later in spoiler location with Charmcaster he does jack shit and just jobs.
I actually believe it's the case of what Kevin and Aggregor absorbed, Aggregor seemed to absorb life energy, while Kevin simply absorbed actual DNA from the Omnitrix.
11:14 Its because a small portion would just be temporary whereas like with Aggregor later he had the Andromeda aliens absorbed entirely into them which gave him both the abilities as well as physiologies of all of them whwre as with Kevin in OS he omly had parts of Ben's aliens' DNA and that makes it easy to assume that its the reason Kevin couldnt use certain alien powers like Upgrade's power.
*Deep Breaths* - We now see the Yeti in its natural habitat....making me question the Secret Saturdays crossover. - Dang, the Andromeda Five is so underused by Ben! - Bet Galapagus' homeworld would be great with some weed... - 🎵Con-tinu-ity! BOOM! - For the most part, I'm ok with Aggregor and his design....But then I remember the Servantis plot and start sobbing, trying to figure out the puzzle 😭 - Pierce's Girlfriend: Lost Storyline in the background - 🎵Gotta collect 'em all, Ultimatrix!🎵 - Killing the Plumber wasn't enough, he had loot him for the suit?!
I feel really sorry for Galapagos. The peaceful turtle-like extraterrestrial was was just asking simple but logical questions and the other prisoners often snap at him for that.
I would say that the power damper for humans would probably prevent us from using adrenaline and probably leave us feeling exhausted and possibly weak. Pretty much just letting us move but doing much more
I think it makes sense they retconned how strong their absorption is. After all, at the time of Ultimate Alien, Osmosians were an entire species, so it makes sense to make their copied powers a bit less powerful so you wouldn’t have an entire series of overly powerful copy cats
This is one of the best episodes for me in UA. It really hooked me up for what was about to come. Now that I look back, we got three major arcs (?) in the UA: - Aggregor and Andromeda prisoners Arc (Season 1) - Ultimate Kevin Arc (Season 1) (Although it is correlated with the first one) - Diagon Arc (Season 2) I have always enjoyed the first arc a lot. It was different and very enjoyable for me.
This one is one I was waiting for. It's a really good episode to fully set up the plot and I do love the format of it especially having Galapagos tell us this story with him as our main character. It's fascinating especially how peaceful he is and his relationship to everyone growing overtime. Even him learning from the others to outsmart and defeat Agragor for a little while. I will say I was shocked that they actually killed the Plumber but I think it's a cool idea although it is sad cause he is a really cool character so losing him is sad even if it helps to show the threat Agragor possess and how ruthless he is.
Also at 16:31 terraspin has the ultimatrix on him so all the alines might have been designed as bens aliens in sheets but altered walker for the andromida 5
8:07 ~0~ Oh Great Ben Tennyson It took me a bit to realize you were calling *Aggregor* Greg 21:45 Agreed. That'd be neat 23:10 Wait isn't Goop missing?
I never understood why aggregor didnt just went in the original planets and captured another set of aliens other than spesifically searching for the originals
Well, I think we have to consider the fact that the Omnitrix has near unlimited power, where a living being doesn't. Meaning it kinda makes sense that Kevin can have fully powered alien, where Agragor doesn't. Also, I don't think Agragor thought about using the Omnitrix, cause he was so focused on absorbing the Andromeda 5
The thing with the Ultimatrix's activation method, is that the Omnitrix from the OS does the same multiple times. It's not the same with the Ultimatrix, where it's solely activated this way. However, we have been told how the Omnitrix's activation method works, and there have been multiple times where it was not activated that way. The Ultimatrix's activation method seems to greatly imply that the Ultimatrix is activated psuedo-telepathically.
When Galapagus was talking to Ben about there being a song about him, I thought it was a meta joke to Ben 10's most iconic song. It's been a while, but I believe it goes a little something like this: "It started when an alien device did what it did" :)
14:15 my new Headcanon for it is now, the reason Kevin could go Toe to Toe with Ben is while yes he only got 10% of The Aliens Strength, it was because he was an 11 Year Old version of them, while Ben was still 10, for humans 11 and 10 Year Olds aren't that different strength wise, for the other species like Pyronites or Tetramands it could be a HUGE gap in power
I probably like the Andromeda Five more than most. I've always liked it when Ben's aliens get some back story to them or are shown outside of just being an alien transformation.
The andromeda five are pretty much the best thing about ultimate alien honestly. Really weird how ben never tried going ultimate with them. The only thing that rivals the individuals and the transformations being ultimate kevin
Adding on to Kuro's idea, a coop mode could be a thing that allows u to play with multiple of your friends through some specific levels. For example, there could be a level where u and 4 other of your friends have to play as the Andromeda 5 and escape from Aggregor's ship and it could play like a GTA V heist, u have to try not to be spotted, u need to sneak around and take out enemies from behind. I can imagine this being cool and fun because playing GTA V heists with my friends is fun because we mess around and act stupid.
Really enjoyed this episode and the breakdown of said episode. As for the redesigns of the Stalker, they all look really good, the only thing that I have to say about them is that some of them if not the majority of the designs look similar to the Martian fighting machines/ tripods from the War of the Worlds novel, movie and musical. (But I guess that’s more of a me thing, really like that story as well as the musical adaptation).
The power draining device was actually draining their stamina, as seen with Bivalvan shooting small jets of water when Galapagos took the device. Also, don't forget that when Kevin absorbed Heatblast's power in the Original it only covered half his body and dried up after some time, so since then it was implied that Osmosians could only absorbe one tenth of an alien's strength. And finally, I want to point out that the Yeti is a relative of V. V. Argost("foreshadowing" that cryptids exist in this universe) and that it is likely the team met with Animo and the Yeti in the same Tibetan mountains that Argost killed Zak's mom parents, as a trivia of how the Ben 10 and the Saturdays universes mix up.
Good catch with V.V argost! Thought I was the only one who had that in mind. Although You’d think he’d be a bit weary over his scheme of controlling a bunch of yetis..maybe it was actually argost that sold him the device in the first place pfft.
In 'Framed', we see Kevin turning into the entire alien. So, no. It was really just a retcon Also... I don't see how the draining device is only draining their stamina?? No one ever claims that they feel weaker, and Ra'ad is just constantly floating but you'd think he wouldn't be if the device drained his stamina
@@PhantomKnight27, then Kevin didn't actually absorb the Omnitrix DNA, but was struck by an overflow of Omnitrix energy(similar to when he hacked it in AF Season 3), which messed up his DNA with that of the original 10, eventually leading to his first mutation, so it was a mutation, not DNA absorbtion. Also, the thing with the stamina absorbtion is that it seemed like the best explanation to me about their powers being drained, apart from "cartoon device which magically takes away the powers and nothing else."
@@mitchjervis8453 You're right about that. I should've thought about that more. My argument was pretty shit there. Not only that, but it's only cause he went directly for the Omnitrix that he was able to do so, which automatically disqualifies my previous argument So, returning to 'Kevin 11' then. If Aggregor was only capable of absorbing 1/10th, that it couldn't even mutate him, then how was Kevin able to absorb seemingly half?? He didn't go for the Omnitrix, here so wouldn't he not mutate to such a degree?? Regarding the second paragraph, I was confused cause you stated it like it was a fact instead of a theory you thought up. But yeah, there's just... really no other explanation for it than "plot device", which is really sad... I was hoping it'd be more as well
15:38 humans have the power to sweat better than any animal, super intelligence (though you’d find this debatable after you encounter enough people), the power of opposable thumbs, and the best throwing capabilities of basically any animal. Human-man would be a cool superhero. But really in all seriousness for the Ben 10 universe I guess there might be a universal definition of powers as being based on what traits heavily diverge from the majority of intelligent/civilized beings throughout the galaxy.
The reason the first turtle Greg absorbed wasn't enough is because osmosisons have a limit and for the most part a duration. That's why he needed to build a machine to absorb more of their power.
I feel like Kevin absorbing bens powers were implied to be weaker due to the whole “alien + Kevin’s dna” thing. I remember you bringing that up in an alien x video
16:31 i was watching and noticed that, "galapagus" in that shot, is just terraspin's model, as it has the ultimatrix on it, surprised that didn't get pointed out, but i'm also surprised i didn't notice anyway
5:53 Considering the fact that the Ultimatrix was made by Albedo specifically for combat purposes, that actually makes a bit of sense. 9:52 Oh my god... Kuro touches grass!?
I can always tell when it's Dee Bradley Baker, I got so used to his voice when he played Every Clone in the clone wars show. He has a few variations on that voice, and then one more that I recognize as Variks from Destiny.
14:35 In the show's defence, Aggregor wasn't transforming. For some reason, I'd considered Aggregor's powers absorption different to what Kevin did in Classic. Kevin absorbing Omni Energy which let him transform as opposed to Aggregor straight up snatching power from a being. Now that I revisit this line of thinking, it seems flawed. There could be a lot of holes in it.
11:43 half my body actually felt tingly during this. I think it’s cause I’ve been clearing wood for work. And my arm got a rash from what we assume is green ferbishing. But I see a lot of bugs and spiders in that wood and I saw some foam that had these and I assume there was a nest of wasp or something there. Just some work related ptsd I guess lol. So many centipedes. I don’t think I can trust a wooden house again.
As a kid thsi was my favorite episode I think. I recall it a lot, and even enjoyed Terra spin as both a transformation and the guy himself(forgot his name). Though unfortunately for me I have major Tryptaphobia so that sycked lol. I actually think this is what started it for me as as a kid seeing Aggregor randomly opening giant holes in hid body really disturbed me lol.
The way I imagined the activation of the ultimatrix was similar to having a smart watch like the Apple Watch whenever you raise it to look at it, that’s when it turns on
Personally, I'd guess the reason Kevin got the full powers of Ben's individual aliens in classic, is just that he wasn't absorbing the powers directly, but was rather absorbing the ability to turn into those alien species from the Omnitrix. Could also explain the slow or sometimes incomplete transformations too. Then as to his amalgamated state, just go with the idea of each one being weaker because there's so much going on.
Hey, Kuro, I know its a while till we Get to the forge if creation, but I have to add something. In an earlier video you said that the krus they used to unlock alien x was just a one time cool things. But it actually affects the plot. Its meant to explain why Kevin didnt Get alien x powrrsnwhen he absorbed the omnitrix, since that dna was locked away. I hope you see this and remember it when you eventually covers the episode
the beginning of the episode is awesome cause it shows Ben and the others to actually be superheroes other than just saviors. It's something that's been plaguing comics for decades especially since event comics are becoming more and more prominent
I feel bad for galapagus, First he wanted help from ben and the team, only to get beaten by them and when he thought he was being rescued, aggregor found him…
Sorry for not putting a warning about the Trypophobia at 11:40 folks. I figured it would be relevant to the conversation, but just skip ahead to 11:52 if you wanna avoid em.
Nice to see you care!
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Kuro cares about us 😁
And by the way kids watch this the animators should put some kind of a glow to the holes.
@@s.p1165 Huh?
It’s so funny how Aggregor was this frightening presence for most of the characters in this arc and yet you called him Greg for most of this breakdown 😂
Galapagos is a really wholesome alien, really sucks what happened to him.
yeah his race got culled or extincted
I don't think his species are extinct.
Wish he cameback more
No kidding he's planet doesn't have dishonesty and conflict!(wich humanity should take notes on) Call me sucker, but I like utopias not dystopias. Anyone Else?
@@au7923 yeah thats on me.
i thought he killed them all hence why he is so eager on catching the escapees
I like how the Andromeda prisoners’ individual flaws are visible in this episode.
Also, I died of laughter when you called Aggregor “Greg” lmao.
When did he say that?
@@christianparrish6647 does he have to?
@@ksoundkaiju9256 nevermind, I already found out
@@ksoundkaiju9256 wdym "do they have to"
@@---oq5kb I mean I think their flaws are pretty obvious
I like how defined the Andromeda 5's personalities are. Would have loved to see them come back in Omniverse with distinct designs.
Would be difficult though because traveling to another galaxy is no walk in the park even in Ben 10
@@axelnilsson5124 they straight up traverse universes and time in that series. It wouldn't be that difficult
@@HerohammerStudios they do that with specific devices such as paradox’s chrono navigator and the 23rd mr smoothies
The thing that always bugged me about this episode even as a kid is that Greg straight up killed a well recognized plumber and suffered no consequences. He basically killed a cop and none of the plumbers try to initially locate his last location and do investigations. Maybe Greg threw out the evidence but it feels like no one cared
Only because Rowley wasn't there to stop him.
The plumbers later find out about Aggregor in the Map of Infinity episode. So there you go.
@@kumarsaurabh9216 that's way too long imo
@@Moon_Sushie Not way so long in my opinion.
@@kumarsaurabh9216 nah that was hella long even if the plumbers are intergalactic they should have files or tabs on each of their enforcers or officers to know their current situations and everything. By bare minimum someone should have been sent to investigate the dudes position. The only other possible reason why the plumbers weren’t aware about the dude is if aggregor had something to do with it e.g impersonation
Dee having such a great voice must be hard on shows like Ben 10 or the clone wars. Guy probably just spends hours in a room talking to himself
He's like atlas from greek mythology just carrying the whole show on his back.
The man's made a career of talking to himself.
And now he has a whole show mostly talking to himself.
i think it's more standard practice for VA's to record each character in an individual session. because swapping between voices gets tiring.
The reason he drained that Geochelone Aerio dry was because when Osmosians absorbs powers they only keep them temporarily. However if the take all that creatures energy and lifeforce, they keep them permanently. Albeit at 1/10 the strength of the original.
3:03 Even the Yeti turned around and looked at him like "What?????" 😂😂😂😂
Kuro I feel obligated to let you know how great these videos are, these breakdowns are what got me back into the franchise I love so much. Thank you for these.
Thank you! Glad you like em
@@TheInkTank i'm getting interested in animation! Before the"what ruined Ben 10"video I didn't know the difference between animation and art style.
Same, the ink tank really sucked me back into the fandom
8:06 Kuro imitating Galapagus hand gesture is pretty hilarious 😂😂. Try playing that in loop.
I think pandor is always pissed because he’s always starving with the suit on. He’s Essentially always living in a state of hangry
He’s also a crime lord so that makes it worse 😅
I too would be hangry if my prison doesn’t give me food and keeps me locked in a metal armor
For those wondering "why is Alien X Green", it was an error but I like to imagine that the reason he was Green was because in Ultimate Alien, it's revealed ben had alien x locked so that albedo couldn't access him, and I like to think that was the shows way of hinting at it, maybe the Green shading was to show that it was inaccessible.
I like to think that Osmosians are kinda like venomous snakes where the children can’t control how much venom they inject making them more dangerous, it would explain why Kevin gets more power from absorbing aliens than Aggregor
That would make sense since we get to see it IS possible to absorb a lot more energy but it probably gets harder with age.
12:31 I actually got why he was called "P'andor". Back at my secondary school I learned the story about Pandora's box and I pretty much got the reference
I love so much that Galapagus went on a FAKE rampage to get Bens attention.
Like, he learned to use violence, but in a pasicifistic way, he tried to only damage property and not people.
Bivalvan here really sounds like the clones from Star Wars: the Clone Wars. Another example of a show where Dee Bradley Baker flexes his voice-acting talents to the max.
Goes to show how good of a voice actor he is
Sounds more like Batman (Kevin conroy
Yeah and make a show look like a local theater production in the process. Dee’s talented but not that talented. He was great in TCW tho, just not here.
@@jasonnguyen2575 he had the easiest paycheck out of all Star Wars!
@@jasonnguyen2575 I would blame that more on the voice direction than Dee personally. Also Dee has contributed to so many projects just by simply making animal sounds, which I might mention goes uncredited. You’re entitled to your opinion but I feel it’s unfair to say that Dee isn’t “that talented” simply because of the direction he was given.
I thought of it as aggregor's absorbed power would dissipate over time like kevin's did before mutation and he needed the machine and stuff to permanently absorb the powers into him.
Basically if osmosians absorbs DNA they’ll temporarily have the power of the being they absorbed but if technology is involved the dna is more permanent to the osmosian body
He also needed it to be a perfect amalgamation, instead of an abomination like with Kevin's mutations
@@axelnilsson5124 that doesn’t seem to fit with kevin 11,00’s future, but perhaps.
@@GreaterGrievobeast55 in the context of classic there are no osmosians so it would be different in that future
@@jvbon646 the way aggreagore absorb the power is far more better than kevin
His amalgamation is perfect combine of 5 alien and he has full control over all power sometimes use both in the same times make it more powerful
According to Dwayne, Addwaitya was a Geochelone Aerio (Galapagus/Terraspin's species) philosopher and magician. They don't know that he became corrupt and just assume that he's kind and gentle like them. Dwayne also said that Addwaitya still has his natural wind abilities despite lacking holes
I have that phobia too. The patterns send subconscious messages to your brain stimulating discuss/discomfort. This defense/survival mechanism is activated because the patterns register to your brain as decay/decaying flesh.
Kuro calling Aggregor ‘Greg’ is my new favorite thing, another great breakdown 👍
As a kid I found this ep so cool because if feels amazing seeing the story of other characters
4:17 again, Brainstorm's electrokenesis was first shown in his debut episode when he used it to save Julie
Galapagus had the best episode. His Terraspin and Radd's Ampfibian are my favorite forms.
5:45 "Galapagos's species is immune to mana"-Aggregor
Yea a retcon.
Galapagos isn’t an hostile individual he likely just pretended so he’d stop pretending to be a threat
I think he doesn’t feel anything from that blast….
Just because you are immune yo something doesn't mean being hit with ot won't cause knock back.
Galapagus is my favourite part of this episode
" eating grass and debating philosophy. Enjoying the great gift of life "
" ly - ing ? "
" Any p l u m *b* e r s in the vicinity? "
The nickname turtle-face
I just feel bad that everyone ganged up on him.
He's a gentle soul. I love him as a character.
I appreciate the darker tone of this part of Ultimate Alien. The heroes save the day, sorta, both here and in Fame, only for the episode to end in a very somber note, where Aggregor wins, so it's like it was all for nothing. Aggregor earns some villain points by being so effective.
Something to note:
When Magister Galil gets attacked by aggregor it got censored by the network for some reason. Years later I found this out but wondered why they did it because it wasn't implied that he died, I assumed he was just knocked out.
Let’s go!
I really like the story of Terraspin species.
I’m shocked that Magister returned, just to be killed by Aggregor is scary.
He didn't deserve it
I think they just needed someone to kill and didnt want to pay J.K Simmons for future episodes
I didnt even remember he died in the episode
@@just_a_tepig3611 I only watched the ending of the episode so I didn’t even know gilhil appeared until I watched the whole episode
@@axelnilsson5124 I had rhe first 10 episodes of ua on dvd and even i didnt remember him appearing. The rest of uaf I only seen clips on TV long ago and youtube, I think I also saw juryriggs debut on TV.
That las scene it's another reason of why i loved Agreggor presentation. A Smart Slasher-ish kind of villian
Imagine if Hazard was calling Galapagus a slur but we got censored into hearing Amphibian
I really love Bivalvan, and the creative decision to call Aggregor 'Greg' is GOATed on your part Kuro
I like how the Andromeda 5 represent specific elements bivalven -water pandor -fire galapagos-wind rad-lightning and Andreas-earth
The "powers" thing always bugged me too. I'm working on my own sci fi story and I usually say "abilities" over powers, if the ability is natural to the alien's species.
How’s it going 2 years later?
@@HuneeBruh I started drawing and publishing the first chapter, thanks for asking. Slower than I hoped due to life getting in the way but we're getting there.
@@aidianajones good luck on everything man
10:19 I just love how casual this line is. Galapagus is underrated.
23:05 hold up, the Ultimatrix is also missing Goop, Wildmutt (if you're feeling fancy enough to count that this early into the show, same with Heatblast), and Nanomech
Wildmutt wasnt re unlock yet and nanomech is small for heatblast its just same for willmutt is not re-unlock
Maybe Nanomech is so small that it can't be seen
Wildmutt was never a thing till ben 10k unlock him
YES WE CAN AGREE ON THIS! “Powers” would be a relative term based on what a species can’t normally do. Me spitting a certain distance would be considered a “power” by an alien that maybe can’t spit at all... natural biological functions shouldn’t be considered “powers” unless the rest of the species is unable to perform them.
I thought Animo with the Yeti was a whole episode. I knew either way we didn't see him capture him. It's way more fun to imagine that than see it.
"You'd best square up, Yeti. You've no chance at besting me, Dr. Animo! LEFT HOOK!"
Bivalvan always felt like the leader of Andromeda five to me to be honest.
Raad was egoistic anti-hero
Pandor was straight up evil jerk
Andreas was kinda gentle giant
And
Galapagus was straight up Wholesome to be honest.
That's just my opinion though. What did you think? Kuro ?
Kinda wished we saw this guy's again.
Andreas definetly had an innocent streak but He was also prone to violence, So I got more hulk vibes from him.
It makes sense bivalvan was a leader given his species is well revered on his homeworld and are scene with almost religous reverence/ as celebrities.
Pandor I get the impression that he’s the only character that might properly belong in a prison. Then again his circumstances are worse than the others since he’s pretty much starving in that thing.
Agreed with raad and galapagus!
@@GreaterGrievobeast55 P'andor is confirmed to be a criminal from his planet.
i would say Ra'ad is more an "I do this my own way" type of guy, like he isn't really a team player. could be the reason why he lasted longer among the andromeda 5
@@GreaterGrievobeast55 💯
There's something about the andromeda aliens that are very standout aesthetically. Can only really put it as, they look very action figure convertable lol. Not that it's a bad thing at all, I'm sure that was the idea for most alien designs since season 1 of classic proved to be money making. But these especially have a toy feel
I've got a lot of things to say about this:
I'm really glad to see one of my favorite episodes of Ultimate Alien being covered.
This episode reminded me why, from the Andromeda five, armadillo is my favorite alien (I much preferred the jackhammer earthquake arms to the OV drill arms), why Galapagos is my favorite character, that people friggin died on-screen in this franchise!!!
Bivalvin seems to have a lot of experience breaking out of prison, seeing how he handles this situation (I see him sort of like the Kevin 11 of this group) I love how you call Aggregor "Greg"
I have ONE problem with this breakdown video tho:
At 21:30 you forgot about Goop!!!
considering that P'andor is confirmed to be a criminal from his planet, I wouldn't be surprised if Bivalvan is some kind of a fugitive or a spy from his planet.
Kinda makes me wonder if bivalvin was a criminal in andromeda
@@axelnilsson5124 and he is good at stealing too
Terraspin got done dirty. They explicitly say he is immune to magic and mana and show it, but later in spoiler location with Charmcaster he does jack shit and just jobs.
Damn that sucks
I actually believe it's the case of what Kevin and Aggregor absorbed, Aggregor seemed to absorb life energy, while Kevin simply absorbed actual DNA from the Omnitrix.
11:14 Its because a small portion would just be temporary whereas like with Aggregor later he had the Andromeda aliens absorbed entirely into them which gave him both the abilities as well as physiologies of all of them whwre as with Kevin in OS he omly had parts of Ben's aliens' DNA and that makes it easy to assume that its the reason Kevin couldnt use certain alien powers like Upgrade's power.
13:50 was so funny a spat out my water 😭
*Deep Breaths*
- We now see the Yeti in its natural habitat....making me question the Secret Saturdays crossover.
- Dang, the Andromeda Five is so underused by Ben!
- Bet Galapagus' homeworld would be great with some weed...
- 🎵Con-tinu-ity! BOOM!
- For the most part, I'm ok with Aggregor and his design....But then I remember the Servantis plot and start sobbing, trying to figure out the puzzle 😭
- Pierce's Girlfriend: Lost Storyline in the background
- 🎵Gotta collect 'em all, Ultimatrix!🎵
- Killing the Plumber wasn't enough, he had loot him for the suit?!
I feel really sorry for Galapagos. The peaceful turtle-like extraterrestrial was was just asking simple but logical questions and the other prisoners often snap at him for that.
Peaceful nature is often seen as a weaknes and weak people are victims and in nature food
Terraspins species look like and sound like lazy and chill people trying to talk and it's cute
I would say that the power damper for humans would probably prevent us from using adrenaline and probably leave us feeling exhausted and possibly weak. Pretty much just letting us move but doing much more
I think it makes sense they retconned how strong their absorption is. After all, at the time of Ultimate Alien, Osmosians were an entire species, so it makes sense to make their copied powers a bit less powerful so you wouldn’t have an entire series of overly powerful copy cats
Nah I think the reason kevin became half pyronite and tetramand is because of the omnitrix
Also Kevin being able to go toe to toe could be explained as he was absorbing energy rather than the physical body like Greg was
This is one of the best episodes for me in UA. It really hooked me up for what was about to come. Now that I look back, we got three major arcs (?) in the UA:
- Aggregor and Andromeda prisoners Arc (Season 1)
- Ultimate Kevin Arc (Season 1) (Although it is correlated with the first one)
- Diagon Arc (Season 2)
I have always enjoyed the first arc a lot. It was different and very enjoyable for me.
I love these types of episodes. Focusing on new characters while still having enough Ben action. Awesome!
This one is one I was waiting for. It's a really good episode to fully set up the plot and I do love the format of it especially having Galapagos tell us this story with him as our main character. It's fascinating especially how peaceful he is and his relationship to everyone growing overtime. Even him learning from the others to outsmart and defeat Agragor for a little while. I will say I was shocked that they actually killed the Plumber but I think it's a cool idea although it is sad cause he is a really cool character so losing him is sad even if it helps to show the threat Agragor possess and how ruthless he is.
at 18:11 one of the agrabots gets zapped without coming incontact with water till a few seconds later
Also at 16:31 terraspin has the ultimatrix on him so all the alines might have been designed as bens aliens in sheets but altered walker for the andromida 5
Gosh I love the Andromada 5's designs. In another timeline I could see these guys as 5 of Ben's core aliens in classic.
8:07 ~0~ Oh Great Ben Tennyson
It took me a bit to realize you were calling *Aggregor* Greg
21:45 Agreed. That'd be neat
23:10 Wait isn't Goop missing?
I never understood why aggregor didnt just went in the original planets and captured another set of aliens other than spesifically searching for the originals
Well, I think we have to consider the fact that the Omnitrix has near unlimited power, where a living being doesn't.
Meaning it kinda makes sense that Kevin can have fully powered alien, where Agragor doesn't.
Also, I don't think Agragor thought about using the Omnitrix, cause he was so focused on absorbing the Andromeda 5
I think he was gonna use Amp'hibian Ben when he couldn't find Ra'ad. Or maybe I'm thinking of some other guy who used Amp'hibian
@@yannismorris4772 he did. You might also be thinking about the time Ampfibian's experimented on in Viktor Spoils.
I always thought that the ultimatrix was activated by Ben flexing a muscle in his wrist to open up the ultermatrix dial
I like to think that Bivalvan's voice changes based on the amount of water he has inside of him ig
That’s a cool theory!
So when he don’t have his power and he can’t regenerated water his voice is so badass
@@TheInkTank thanks
It's a story arc, When it comes to arcs aside from their ending overall story does not disappoint no matter which series of Ben 10 your prefer.
not even the reboot.
The thing with the Ultimatrix's activation method, is that the Omnitrix from the OS does the same multiple times. It's not the same with the Ultimatrix, where it's solely activated this way. However, we have been told how the Omnitrix's activation method works, and there have been multiple times where it was not activated that way. The Ultimatrix's activation method seems to greatly imply that the Ultimatrix is activated psuedo-telepathically.
When Galapagus was talking to Ben about there being a song about him, I thought it was a meta joke to Ben 10's most iconic song.
It's been a while, but I believe it goes a little something like this:
"It started when an alien device did what it did" :)
5:40 this is basically whenever a boss becomes a playable character
Seeing ultimate big chill use fire just makes me miss heatblast as he’s always gonna be the fire guy to me
I can’t get over you calling Agreggor “Greg” I can’t stop laughing
23:10 Goop would like to know your location
14:15 my new Headcanon for it is now, the reason Kevin could go Toe to Toe with Ben is while yes he only got 10% of The Aliens Strength, it was because he was an 11 Year Old version of them, while Ben was still 10, for humans 11 and 10 Year Olds aren't that different strength wise, for the other species like Pyronites or Tetramands it could be a HUGE gap in power
I probably like the Andromeda Five more than most. I've always liked it when Ben's aliens get some back story to them or are shown outside of just being an alien transformation.
The andromeda five are pretty much the best thing about ultimate alien honestly. Really weird how ben never tried going ultimate with them. The only thing that rivals the individuals and the transformations being ultimate kevin
Adding on to Kuro's idea, a coop mode could be a thing that allows u to play with multiple of your friends through some specific levels. For example, there could be a level where u and 4 other of your friends have to play as the Andromeda 5 and escape from Aggregor's ship and it could play like a GTA V heist, u have to try not to be spotted, u need to sneak around and take out enemies from behind. I can imagine this being cool and fun because playing GTA V heists with my friends is fun because we mess around and act stupid.
Really enjoyed this episode and the breakdown of said episode. As for the redesigns of the Stalker, they all look really good, the only thing that I have to say about them is that some of them if not the majority of the designs look similar to the Martian fighting machines/ tripods from the War of the Worlds novel, movie and musical. (But I guess that’s more of a me thing, really like that story as well as the musical adaptation).
21:56 gotta collect em all
More like "gotta scan em all"
@@Xevokro true
The power draining device was actually draining their stamina, as seen with Bivalvan shooting small jets of water when Galapagos took the device.
Also, don't forget that when Kevin absorbed Heatblast's power in the Original it only covered half his body and dried up after some time, so since then it was implied that Osmosians could only absorbe one tenth of an alien's strength.
And finally, I want to point out that the Yeti is a relative of V. V. Argost("foreshadowing" that cryptids exist in this universe) and that it is likely the team met with Animo and the Yeti in the same Tibetan mountains that Argost killed Zak's mom parents, as a trivia of how the Ben 10 and the Saturdays universes mix up.
Good catch with V.V argost! Thought I was the only one who had that in mind. Although You’d think he’d be a bit weary over his scheme of controlling a bunch of yetis..maybe it was actually argost that sold him the device in the first place pfft.
oh dang! I forgot the secret saturdays actually exist in ben 10!
In 'Framed', we see Kevin turning into the entire alien. So, no. It was really just a retcon
Also... I don't see how the draining device is only draining their stamina?? No one ever claims that they feel weaker, and Ra'ad is just constantly floating but you'd think he wouldn't be if the device drained his stamina
@@PhantomKnight27, then Kevin didn't actually absorb the Omnitrix DNA, but was struck by an overflow of Omnitrix energy(similar to when he hacked it in AF Season 3), which messed up his DNA with that of the original 10, eventually leading to his first mutation, so it was a mutation, not DNA absorbtion.
Also, the thing with the stamina absorbtion is that it seemed like the best explanation to me about their powers being drained, apart from "cartoon device which magically takes away the powers and nothing else."
@@mitchjervis8453 You're right about that. I should've thought about that more. My argument was pretty shit there. Not only that, but it's only cause he went directly for the Omnitrix that he was able to do so, which automatically disqualifies my previous argument
So, returning to 'Kevin 11' then. If Aggregor was only capable of absorbing 1/10th, that it couldn't even mutate him, then how was Kevin able to absorb seemingly half?? He didn't go for the Omnitrix, here so wouldn't he not mutate to such a degree??
Regarding the second paragraph, I was confused cause you stated it like it was a fact instead of a theory you thought up. But yeah, there's just... really no other explanation for it than "plot device", which is really sad... I was hoping it'd be more as well
15:50 Right thank goodness I’m not the only one that noticed this detail. Bivalvan sounds like a storm trooper in his future appearances.
15:38 humans have the power to sweat better than any animal, super intelligence (though you’d find this debatable after you encounter enough people), the power of opposable thumbs, and the best throwing capabilities of basically any animal.
Human-man would be a cool superhero.
But really in all seriousness for the Ben 10 universe I guess there might be a universal definition of powers as being based on what traits heavily diverge from the majority of intelligent/civilized beings throughout the galaxy.
terra-spin has a very cannonbolt like power set, in that his ability comes from what his body naturually forms into
I think its funny that Bivalvon calls galapaegous "Amphibious face" when Ampfibian is right next to him.
Why did Ben a jellyfish "amphibian"? Did he fail biology?
The new intro is _still_ focken dope, every time I see it.
The reason the first turtle Greg absorbed wasn't enough is because osmosisons have a limit and for the most part a duration. That's why he needed to build a machine to absorb more of their power.
Man...this was the first ben 10 episode I ever watched I guess that could be why the 5 are some of my favorites
I feel like Kevin absorbing bens powers were implied to be weaker due to the whole “alien + Kevin’s dna” thing. I remember you bringing that up in an alien x video
16:31 i was watching and noticed that, "galapagus" in that shot, is just terraspin's model, as it has the ultimatrix on it, surprised that didn't get pointed out, but i'm also surprised i didn't notice anyway
5:53 Considering the fact that the Ultimatrix was made by Albedo specifically for combat purposes, that actually makes a bit of sense.
9:52 Oh my god... Kuro touches grass!?
I'm surprised Kuro didn't point out they forgot the mana immunity Geocheline Aerios have at 5:43
20:35. 😂😂😂 Was not expecting that
I can always tell when it's Dee Bradley Baker, I got so used to his voice when he played Every Clone in the clone wars show. He has a few variations on that voice, and then one more that I recognize as Variks from Destiny.
14:35
In the show's defence, Aggregor wasn't transforming. For some reason, I'd considered Aggregor's powers absorption different to what Kevin did in Classic. Kevin absorbing Omni Energy which let him transform as opposed to Aggregor straight up snatching power from a being.
Now that I revisit this line of thinking, it seems flawed. There could be a lot of holes in it.
11:43 half my body actually felt tingly during this. I think it’s cause I’ve been clearing wood for work. And my arm got a rash from what we assume is green ferbishing. But I see a lot of bugs and spiders in that wood and I saw some foam that had these and I assume there was a nest of wasp or something there. Just some work related ptsd I guess lol. So many centipedes. I don’t think I can trust a wooden house again.
11:39 WHY? WHY? WHY? I FELT THE HAIRS IN THE BACK OF MY NECK STAND UP AND MY STOMACH TURN! i feel sick 🤢
As a kid thsi was my favorite episode I think. I recall it a lot, and even enjoyed Terra spin as both a transformation and the guy himself(forgot his name).
Though unfortunately for me I have major Tryptaphobia so that sycked lol. I actually think this is what started it for me as as a kid seeing Aggregor randomly opening giant holes in hid body really disturbed me lol.
Yeah I can see that aggregor thing disturbing anyone as a kid especially.
idk if everyone already knew this or not,
but i just noticed that the andromeda 5 are like the 5 elements
water, air, earth, fire, and electricity.
Yea. How could I never noticed that.
Wait electricity comes to five elements!!
@@pathumdilhara7831 energy, thunder, electricity(word) struck me at that moment so i wrote that
@@Vaibhavsingh-yc5ln : 😍😍👍
The way I imagined the activation of the ultimatrix was similar to having a smart watch like the Apple Watch whenever you raise it to look at it, that’s when it turns on
The device Bivalvin used to deactivate the power dampener, as well as the aggrobots, have the metal red and silver colour scheme.
Personally, I'd guess the reason Kevin got the full powers of Ben's individual aliens in classic, is just that he wasn't absorbing the powers directly, but was rather absorbing the ability to turn into those alien species from the Omnitrix. Could also explain the slow or sometimes incomplete transformations too. Then as to his amalgamated state, just go with the idea of each one being weaker because there's so much going on.
Hey, Kuro, I know its a while till we Get to the forge if creation, but I have to add something. In an earlier video you said that the krus they used to unlock alien x was just a one time cool things. But it actually affects the plot. Its meant to explain why Kevin didnt Get alien x powrrsnwhen he absorbed the omnitrix, since that dna was locked away. I hope you see this and remember it when you eventually covers the episode
Terraspin is rarely if ever talked about so it's nice that this video exists.
13:22 Funny to call him that while being next to Ra'ad.
Foreshadowing
the beginning of the episode is awesome cause it shows Ben and the others to actually be superheroes other than just saviors. It's something that's been plaguing comics for decades especially since event comics are becoming more and more prominent
I feel bad for galapagus,
First he wanted help from ben and the team, only to get beaten by them and when he thought he was being rescued, aggregor found him…