agreed. being mad happens to everyone, but its the ability to see past your anger and get back to the point that makes people able to handle situations.
You know, omniverse's azmuth was probably the wisest version of the characters. Like, can you imagine that iteration screaming in anger or saying "let the universe get destroyed I don't care"??
Interesting that Humongousaur made an appearance in every map piece episode. 1. His failed beat down on Greg 2. Nearly drowning before switching 3. Having an Ultimate appearance 4. Being a mistransformation.
although ben didn't use him in forge of creation, his hologram appeared there when 10 year old ben is checking the ultimatrix, so I think humunguosaur appeared in all of the map of infinity episodes.
The omnitrix might've been getting in those Humungosaur transformations when Ben didn't need them because he usually always wants but never gets him. So the omnitrix can say it still gives Ben Humungosaur for whenever he complains.
I will admit that even though the Ripjaws scene is short, and a little underwhelming, it is a pretty realistic transformation. He was used when absolutely necessary, got the job done, then reverts back before the lack of oxygen takes hold (presuming that's still a problem). Plus the transformation really was a nice surprise at the time, kinda like the Ghostfreak one later down the line.
That is the thing that sucks about Ripjaws. At this point, Ben has so many Aliens that do what Ripjaws does, but better because they can also breathe above water, like Jetray, AMPfibian, and presumably Brainstorm as well. There's basically no reason to use Ripjaws anymore. Hell, even in Classic, he didn't get much love. He got used a decent amount in Season 1 & 2, but he only popped up twice in Season 4, and one was a mistransformation. And he didn't show up AT ALL in Season 3.
I guess this also sets up how the Omnitrix works in OV, where the alien Ben turns into depends more on the circumstances and setting than what Ben actually wants. Like when he got Astrodactyl, he was on its homeworld and surrounded by Khybers Panucian, or like you said when Ghostfreak returned in both UA and OV. Heck even in Classic.
@@PlayerZeroStart yeah. That’s one of the consequences of Ben getting lots of aliens. At some point, you start getting a lot of overlaps. That’s one thing I liked about Classic. All of Ben’s aliens had generally their own niches and pros and cons that were more unique
@@PlayerZeroStart To be fair, Amphibian can read minds, but ben never uses it, this is one of my problems, Ben has aliens that are useful in some situations, but never uses them, also, agreed with you're comment.
i feel like they really nailed the trio's personalities in this episode, especially Ben; he's got his signature confidence and jokes around, but it's balanced with his responsibility and understanding of how serious the mission is, and his empathy toward Kevin. also, i love how completely random the Perplexahedron is, i'd definitely go nuts if i got stuck in there lmao
Dont really wanna do this but: - Ben gives the map piece to Kevin and then he and Gwen go to save the sentinel and distract Greg until Kevin riches the ship; - After distracting Greg for enough time Kevin signals them that they are ready to fly away; - Gwen teleports everyone including the guard inside the ship and they all celebrate the victory; - Greg shows up from within the debree of the cube and shots the RB3 with lasers and ampiri energy; - the RB3 is now drifting half destroyed along with half destroyed Perplexahedron into space; - Either into a mana buble or in they suits the trio realize that the map piese is lost floating within that chaos; - Greg now shows the other pieces he has and the missing one slowly floats and reunites with all of the others; - Greg teleports or fly away while Ben almost has a mental breakdown and he shots Gregs name once more but the camera is set outside of the mana buble so the scream has some type of filters or is even muted because there is no sound in space; - Episode ends. The next one starts with them still floating in there. They get teleported to Galvan 2. The Sentinel dies and Azmuth goes from calmly recaping theyr failure to screaming at them like an old angry man. There...I did it...
5:54 the Ben 10: Game Creator gave Water Hazard a move called "bubble shield", which I always assumed this was supposed to be. Though if this was Ra'ad's power, it would have been nice if it was used again by Ampfibian or something, to establish it even exists as something he can do
One of the biggest plot holes in my eyes is how paradox wouldn’t just keep a piece of the map with him in his pocket, then it would be impossible to get
I dont think its a plot hole, since Paradox main goal isn't to protect the map at all cost but instead to make sure the timeline flows into a optimal future, it clear he knew how things would turn out and that Agreggor would ultimately fail so him getting the pieces wasn't a problem, and these events most likely needed to happen so that Ben, Gwen and Kevin would mature and grow into greater heroes
He even later did that with a different map that was in his arm in OV(which I'm pretty dure was a ret on of him just knowing it all in his head anyway)
I like how Kevin manages to beat up quite a few guards. I like when Material absorbing Kevin actually kicks ass and isn't just an easily defeated weakling.
Dwayne McDuffie said Ben reunlocked Ripjaws in ‘Deep’, but I wish they showed him do that on-screen. If that happened, alongside this Ripjaws appearance, that would be better in my opinion.
I think it’s even worse when you realize paradox put a alien in the cube to guard the piece and make that his life goal knowing very well that his life purpose would fail.
A lot of people kind of underestimate just how strong Kevin is just using his powers normally (aka absorbing materials into himself and physically becoming that material). A lot of people think he can just shape-shift a little and gets a durability boost, but they forget his bones and muscles are made of the material he absorbs at that point. Just imagine how much strength can be produced by someone with a humanoid muscle structure made of steel or harder materials. If you were to squeeze someone as hard as you can like that, it would be like getting crushed by a hydraulic press.
Plus how they make Kevin be able to absorb small pieces of the material that covers his entire body now instead only his arm or leg, he could just carry them in those stuff where people put coins in and capsules for liquid maybe
@@coolskeleton9560 If we're going through development route, one idea I've always found interesting is him carrying energy cells on him and using them as a power source while he creates makeshift weapons based on some of the tech he understands best. Kevin is high key the alien tech expert of the group and they rarely ever do anything with that lol.
@@kaiyamazaki1684 Soooo truuuuee, he will basically be like a mini Upgrade character! If he can become an alien freakshow from Ben 10 (some are literally just energy/sound) then he can do this! I felt like they wasted so much potential for every character in alien force and ultimate alien, it gets introduced but then not expanded enough for ME to get satisfied atleast. What ideas do you have?
I never understood why Kevin never tried absorbing and utilising energy, like electricity or fire, the flashback of his dad shows it should be possible; also, despite his powers being described as "capable of absorbing matter, energy and powers", he seems to focus only on solid matter, but what about liquids and gases, could he turn himself into water?
@@mastergreeen1385 I can kind of understand not using liquids or gases since that could be dangerous to test in an Uncontrolled environment. Turning into one of those things without knowing how to control it could end up getting you killed since he may turn into them in those cases. But energy is a different matter. We've seem Kevin absorb electricity in the original series and the reboot I believe so he can canonical do it with no issue, seems like having power cells or energy ammunition on hand might be useful to him.
I always thought the sentinel should have ended up being the REAL final piece of the map. Like after they save him he turns into the final piece because Paradox wanted to make sure the map wound up in the hands of a person who values life.
I'd like to think that those constructs you spoke of that Greg used were a hybrid of Pandor and Raads powers forming a strange double energy construct made of both the former's radiation and the Electric Energy of the latter.
I honestly think Lauralyn/Sentinel was a single moment of time of a random being's life that Paradox cut out and gave sentience and then stretched out over the milennia needed to guard the map piece. Like the whole Clara thing from Dr Who Heaven Sent ( a single moment cut out of time and thus semi immortal).
I liked the use of Ripjaws. Based on the opening theme animation I always thought UA would feature more aliens casually and not in “starring roles”. Ripjaws just coming and going fits that idea.
28:28 And unsurprisingly, it actually worked for the most part over Gwen’s plan. I don’t think Gwen could’ve ever gotten Kevin weakened enough to carry out her plan alone.
One of my favourite episode of the Map Of Infinity arc alongside "Where The Magic Happens" First, Ben should got the Sentinel out of here with the map piece as he hesitated to go back, which led Greg from collecting it. Second, Before Ben went back for the Sentinel, he should've gave the map piece to Kevin and return to the Rust Bucket. Gwen and Kevin kiss is sweet "Why can't you guys get a room, this place is full of them" is funny.
I'd like to imagine that the reason Ben held on to the piece of the map of Infinity instead of giving it to Kevin like he should have, was because he needed it to navigate back to the Sentinel's room and then back to the ship. There was that hint that the map piece was the thing that was leading him to the ship in the first place, so it's not a stretch to imagine that whoever holds it basically has the ability to traverse the Perplexahedron effortlessly and the rooms order themselves to the holder's preferred destination.
I'd believe you if that clearly wasn't true. Kevin was able to get back to the ship no problem, and he wasn't holding a map piece. Gwen's Plumber Badge was also leading them back to the ship. Maybe Ben would need it to get back, but to me, the implication was that since the Map Piece was removed, all the traps and shifting rooms of the Perplexahedron were disabled, so Ben probably would've been able to get back to the Sentinel without it. Of course, I'm not going to fault Ben for not thinking that in the moment, he's under extreme stress
I always assumed the doors being different was intentional as it makes it more of a maze and gives each room a differentiation for the audience. The mana "not lining up" could be the start of the path and not where it connected to that room via the first door so it makes more sense for shifting as well. Fans work by using tilted blades to pull or push air... those blades were not tilted so they were not pushing or pulling strong enough to do much even counting the sharpness being slightly angled. (could have been fixed with slight shadows)
Oh I was scared that this episode might not get the full breakdown but I’m glad I was wrong :D This episode was the memorable out of all ‘map of infinity’ episodes.
Wow perfect plot armour. Always wondered why cant Ben use brainstorm or Gwen trap the Sentinel to save him from being killed if they want to save him haha.What a risky move to do after you've lost 3 pieces of the map!
I think my interpretation of Greg's forcefield when he's attacked outside the cube is now that it's a combination of Bivalvan and Raad's abilities. He puts out water a la Bivalvan and then uses some form of electrokinesis over that water to give it some kind of energy barrier effect.
my theory on how aggregor made those constructs: galapagus’ species, geochelone aerio, is noted as being VERY mana-sensitive, hence why Addwaitya is seen as the most powerful magic user in the series, and since now we know that charmcaster and gwen’s mana constructs are different colors, AND gwen’s magic was normally depicted as being blue in the classic series, I’d say aggregor was using his own novice version of a mana shield. but that’s just a theory.
I like to think that power belongs to the turtle guy. They are known to be very in tune with life energy. . . him visiting the realm of magic might have unlocked his magical potential and what we are seeing really IS mana like gwens. This could ALSO explain why gwen can't track him anymore. That being that he can now pull a dragon ball and "suppress his power level now that he has access to his ki", or in this case, mana, which gwen uses to track.
4:40 Problem with that idea is that, once you figure out how to get one piece, you pretty much figure out how to get them all. With how Paradox did this, you need a wide variety of knowledge and powers in order to not only figure out where the pieces are and how to reach them but also to do so. 6:07 Well, Terraspin's species can manipulate mana. So maybe a mix of Galapagus and Ra'ad.
Looking at the Sentinel (Lord Lauralyn Rose) and Ujin, Paradox seems to have a habit of putting people to look after things for who knows how long only for some villain to take it thanks to Ben's intervention.
Aggregor to be reminds me of the quote from Thanos "The Hardest Choices Require The Strongest Wills", in that Aggregor keeps winning because he's willing to do anything, while Ben and the others are held back by their morals and fears. It took Kevin making a big scarfice to actually beat the man, and it certainly affects Ben during the ultimate Kevin arc because last time he held back, they almost lost to Aggregor. So while I wish Aggregor could have been a more well rounded character/we got to know more about him, I do love the effect he has on the characters.
Felt like the inclusion of Ripjaws was made entirely pointless by him not showing up ever again- which of course this episode had no control over, but still. As a moment on its own it comes off as “wow, Ben pulled an old one casually that we didn’t even know was re-unlocked! He’s getting real good with this new watch and is a versatile hero”. Outside of that moment though, he rarely ever does stuff like that again, so it’s like… did they forget a big part of the premise was how many aliens he has or was there some kind of network mandate that prevented them from capitalizing on it?
My headcanon is that the Sentinel was like the CPU that made the whole cube function, so like, directly or indirectly he was the one mantaining or processing the actions of the guards and traps, probably also having to deal with aliens that try to get close to get close to the Cube or somehow even find a way to enter without the key, like teleportation or smth
12:50 I don’t know if you’ll read this but I guess it’s worth a shot. In my opinion, sometimes I think Ben doesn’t quick change because maybe he kind of goes:”Eh, wasnt what I wanted but I can still make this work” after all in the classic series he’s had tons of practice adapting to the omnitrix’s mistakes on the fly. I know the meta reason is just to make it a callback to the original but I do believe in some cases this can be explained in a character choice as one of Bens defining traits as a hero is his adaptability. “Yeah I wanted Waterhazard to douse this fire but maybe I can use Heatblast to calm the flames, I’m also immune to fire in this form so maybe I can use that to my advantage to”
One of the most memoriable episodes in the Ben 10 history and they executed very well. Everything was enjoyable in this episode. The characters' personalities were well done. Especially Ben's. It redefined what kind of a hero he is once he put on the omnitrix from Alien Force. And the ending where Sentinel dies always gets me. It was a perfect build up for the "Forge of Creation" episode that is to be followed.
4:52 Because Once Some criminal (like Aggregor) finds one piece he would know that he has to find a PerplexaHedron sommewhere in the Galaxy. Whereas in this place it is Unimaginable to Predict that other piece would be in Legerdomain or on Necrofigians Planet.
I imagine the Perplexahedran was built using some sort of upper-dumensional materials and technologies, kinda like that "toy" cube from AF s3, hence, it can pretty much create each individual room almost instantaneously the moment someone crosses over from one to another Paradox probably made this thing in the most literal way possible, "one piece at a time", cause he's got infinite time on hands (and no ptobem with spending an infinite amout of time too), heck, that's probably how he must've cleaned up the mess afterwards too; just came in, took a piece of debris, dumped it somewhere/incinerated it, rinse and repeat
I like the mistransforming when it's done in a way that bens like " screw it might aswell stick with this" or scenes where switching might waste power when he needs it but yeah scenes when he could easily switch and there's no worry about power running out or anything are kinda bullshit. I mean I'd rather have mistransforming when he could easily switch than not have it at all
I think the reason Ben doesn't immediately transform again after a mistransformation is because it takes up more charge from the Omnitrix (as they mentioned in Video Games).
The guard thing makes no sense to me, if you're hiding a major artifact, one: Why give your opponent a clue to find you?, two: the guards don't matter, they're just giants, Why not have it so the floors turn into boiling acid, or the walls electrify/magnetize themselves? Why not weaponize gravity to make the opponent too heavy to move?
I haven't seen Cube, but I did know that it was written specifically to accommodate for the creators only having one room to work with. That's literally all I knew prior to this video, and now I'm tempted to watch it.
This is still one of my favorite episodes of Ben 10 that isn't a season finale or something like that. The perplexahedron is just a fun challenge for the trio. I love the scene where the Gwen and Kevin are going trough the traps and they're talking so casualy about it with Ben. Really shows how good they can handle situations like those. Ben could've helped them, but in my headcannon, I say he's just saving energy in his Ultimatrix for battling Greg
I figured Aggregor’s weird blue constructs were supposed to be from the alpha rune. It would retain its magical powers, no? Maybe the magic combines with Ra’ad’s power, sorta like how Brainstorm could do shields
The whole trope of a bad guy needing to collect a bunch of things for their master plan and the good guys never succeeding in stoping that plan from happening but defeat the bad guy in the end anyway never gets old. Seen it enough times as a kid to recognize a pattern.
Some series do it better than others. I think shaolin showdown and Jackie chan adventures did it beast cause there cause the items always felt more unique and often went back and forth between the hero and bad guy teams.
@@GreaterGrievobeast55 yeah sometimes those kinds of storylines would have the heros get a few wins to make it seem like they could stop the plan only to end up losing it all in the end later for one reason or another. In ben 10 they just consistently lost every piece.
I know they want to escalate Greg being a threat but they don't need to make Ben do the wrong choice like letting Greg escape from Pisciss and try to save Sentinel from Greg, they should've wrote it that Ben tried to stop Greg but got one shot as Greg hits him with electrokinesis that magnified by aquatic environments and Ultimate Big Chill 's vulnerability that Ben fainted and Ultimatrix switch him to Ripjaws to save him from drowning. And here, Greg was aware Ben has the fragment and fought him then used Sentinel as hostage, taking advantage of Ben's heroic nature and he will still get lectures for letting his morality gets the best of him, causing Kevin to tell Ben sometimes you must take the hard decision, even if it goes against everything he stands for, with Gwen being against it (as she tried to be pacifist).
I've said it before and I'll said it again. Greg's constant victories feel less like he's powerful and feels more like a plot device for Kevin to turn evil again considering the end of this season
11:03 all the differences between the movie and the episode you mentioned here is what makes me think the episode is based on the sequel "Hypercube" since the Hypercube is 4 dimensional and folds on itself, also the overall appearance of the rooms
I like to think Paradox gathered all the resources he needed having the blueprint already in his mind and left them in a pile on a platform walked off of the platform to be far away from it and from his perspective: he close his hands together with the platform of resources in view and crushed it togther forming a cube and copied the cube before getting out world editor and started to copy paste the cube multi times eventually making the Perplexahedron. Basically the creation of the Perplexahedron in a nutshell.
This episode was definitely the most creative imo, and also I agree with your opinion with Ben , this episode made me feel sorry for him so much too, it's always interesting to me seeing the hero make a mistake in a cartoon, it's very rare.
Stopping in the middle of the review to air out my thoughts on the conversation that Ben and Kevin have regarding how Ben views Kevin and how Kevin views himself. While it's a really sweet sentiment and I love the tender moment they have together in a long overdue heart to heart, it rings a little hollow after the events in the Forge of Creation. I understand that Kevin has given in to his Osmosian instincts and is on a rampage, I feel like Ben's sudden resolution to straight up kill him is very out of character after calling Kevin "The big brother he never had." With that kind of attachment, you would think he'd rather find a way to cure him instead of resolving to straight up put him down. The 180 Ben has in that regard feels very forced.
It makes sense considering how at that point, Kevin was basically an even more powerful version of Aggregor. It was only a matter of time before Kevin changed his mind about the baby Celestialsapien.
The way I viewed is that Ben is one of the only people to know how Kevin can get when he’s absorbed that much insane power. Even though this part is head canon, I do believe that they both had a conversation with each other about taking the other out if they were to go crazy with power. Based off of Kevin’s statement when he’s cured at least. Ben took killing Kevin seriously bc he knew he was the only one who could. The only one who could release Kevin from his imprisonment. Whereas gwen wanted him to return to the way he was. I think it was more of a love and respect thing than it was a “I can’t believe you went back to your old ways” kinda thing
Gotta respect the team for taking a concept from a movie like Cube and making it their own for this episode. Also Havin Ripjaws in deep made more sense, but I'm fine with him being used her.
Coincidentally i just watched this episode 2 hours ago so the breakdown was more fun because i was all caught up on the things happening in the episode
I feel like the constructs really are a hybrid power, since they’re similar in design to P’Andor’s radiation blasts, but with the solid blue of Rad’s energy. My best guess is that it’s P’Andor’s radiation being focused by Rad’s amperi energy control to form a solid barrier that can also be used to form constructs as well.
First of all, very glad this got a full breakdown. You do great work, Kuro. Now, I decided to rewatch this episode before watching the breakdown and the opening shot with the trio from an upward perspective (like in the original godzilla movie) Ben looks kinda off model. or at least smaller and leaner than normal. He looks like he's barely three fifths of Kevins height. Also, I'm totally with Gwen about Ben roasting Azmuth for being a prick. I'm proud of Ben for somehow being more mature than Azmuth of all people in that one scene. A rare nugget of gold in the flip-flop of Bens character through UA and OV.
Looks like I need to check out Cube. I'm always up to see another type of horror movie, so I'll add it to the list. Looking forward to the breakdown of The Forge of Creation
This is my favorite episode of the series. I was honestly afraid it wouldn't get a review since the last episode did. I'm so excited for this. Fun fact, this is not the only Cartoon Network show to parody The Cube. The episode Mystery Dungeon in Adventure Time also takes various elements from the film.
I’d like to imagine the sentinel would periodically leave the Cube, and just teleport back whenever someone entered. Like this centuries old squid man was partying in Space Vegas until Greg waltzed up
The little bit of dialogue between Ben and Kevin that was so heartfelt was incredible to me as a child and even now. Glad they’re showing at least somewhat that men are allowed to be emotional and don’t have to fit to a toxic masculinity standard
You’re assuming the perplexahedron has euclidian geometry, Its easy to say it’s bigger on the inside because of paradox being connected but also consider the concept sufficiently advanced tech is indistinguishable from magic and the fact we know that paradox is capable of going basically anywhere and when and that the map is also from the future and the perplexahedron doesn’t really any rationality
I think the Perplexahedron is primarily technology. It's basically a classic examole of the old "Any suitably advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic". A man with access to every time and place in the universe built the world's greatest deathtrap, complete with whatever technology from whatever time period and location would help best. My question is: if the map of Infinity is supposed to be separate to protect it, why is the Perplexahedron built more like a test than a guard?
Counterpoint to ben bringing map piece to save sentinel. He didn't know precisely where Greg was in the perplexahedron, it just happened to be bad luck that Greg found the sentinel any of the trio could have run into Greg, so I think Dwayne macduffe's explanation makes sense
Okay so Greg's constructs I'm calling it a hybrid of Radd and Galapagos. Because remember how Terraspin's species is able to deal with mana? So I am actually basing this partly off of your comment that it looks like Gwen's powers. So I'm saying it's a fusion of Radd and Galapagos.
Question: Could Ben transform into an Ultimate Human? Sure, Ben can’t transform into other humans because his DNA would be too similar, but since Albedo could transform into an Ultimate Graymatter, this should mean that Ultimates have enough of a genetic difference for a successful transformation. And yes, it would probably be Giga-Chad. I imagine Giga-Chad would look like Ben 10,000 in the artstyle. And could Ben transform into Gwen or Kevin, since they aren’t Humans? I think?
@@gamingnubs7628 Wait, so he started as a Galvin, then his DNA changed so much he permanently became a Human and then he was able to transform back into a Galvin? Isn’t that all he wanted to do? Why didn’t he just reprogram the Ultimatrix to lock him in one transformation, his Galvin form?
@@adamkaangambrill Basically, Albedo was a galvan, who was deemed unworthy of the Omnitrix, so he tried to create his own, and due to being human at the time where Azmuth took his knockoff Omnitrix away, it left him permanently stuck in human form, so when he builds the Ultimatrix, he wishes to become a galvan again, however, thanks to the Ultimatrix being linked to the Omnitrix, the galvan transformation is locked, so he had to team up with Vilgax, who ended up backstabbing him.
Ben's ultimatrix is different from albedo's Dna Stablalizer so probably not ,although if he could , i agree it would turn him into GigaChad ben , as for gwen ,anodites "dna " are not in the omnitrix ( even if ben has access to more powerfull and complex transformations like Alien X,so sadly not) and Kevin is a human with powers , not quite an alien ,so no . Note , an ultimate human probably could use magic and kevin's power since they ae so adaptable and all , all info is from a video a watched a while back about an ultimate human , don't remember the name of said video.
I think that putting a piece of the map in Ledgerdemain is understandable, because it's somewhere that's almost impossible to access, and the Alpha Rune is going to be controlled by an incredibly powerful mystic, but putting it on two random planets? Nah.
I would've liked to see Ripjaws in Deep with his OG raspy voice. Honestly, you could give Ripjaws both his raspy voice and bubbly high pitched voice to please everyone. When he's on land, he has the raspy voice, when he's underwater, he has the high pitched voice. Though I gotta say OG Ripjaws is the best design of them all, the milky white eyes, uneven protruding teeth and the shape of the jaws themselves sell it for me. UA Ripjaws looks more like a koi fish, while OV looks like his jaws and teeth are too small.
Well... thanks, I admit you made me appreciate this episode even more. I didn't realize all the things it did well back then. It's really a good one. I agree that the Sentinel should have been Vilgax's species. I like when aliens we already saw come back, makes the world-building feel more real. Also yeah, Ben going back to save the Sentinel is stupid - but I am fine with it because it's completely in character for Ben. He just can't leave people behind. And yeah, you nailed it with Ben; I thought Ben going killer on Kevin worked because we do get to see him descent to the point where he'd believe so.
Perhaps Greg’s force fields are a combination of Ra’ad’s electricity and Greg’s own osmosian absorption powers. Greg might be absorbing the lasers and using his now natural energy manipulation to generate the fields.
I only found out about the cube a couple of years ago. I didn't know the reference until now. It was a pretty interesting Ben 10 episode, I think this was my favorite map of infinity location/episode.
I like the idea that Ripjaws has two subspecies similar to upchuck, like one is deep ocean the other is more like river or lake dwelling, especially since the designs are based on an angler fish and a catfish respectively
Thing is with Ben giving the map piece to Kevin is if aggregor finds out ben doesn't have it he'll pretty quickly figure out who does and he'll end up most likely killing Kevin and destroying the ship. Dooming the others, Ben in that moment knew Kevin couldn't protect the map piece if aggregor found him so he kept it knowing he and gwen could at the very least protect themselves even if aggregor got the map piece, i believe he didn't want to put Kevin in danger mostly because he doesn't want to potentially lose him but I also think partly because he knew aggregor would most likely destroy the ship aswell meaning both Ben and gwen would also be doomed
Super happy to see three full breakdowns. Yes I said three because we all know Forge of Creation is getting a full breakdown it's too big not to get one
I'm ok with Rip Jaws not being in Deep, since literally every other character in that episode beside the trio we're Rip Jaws's species. Needed more variety. Also for some reason I like the idea of Rip Jaws having like an Italian style New York eccent, like Gut Rot but deeper
I'm so happy Perplexahedron got a full breakdown, it's such a memorable episode
Fax factual statements my brother
You: It's such a memorable episode.
Me who has watched UA a couple times: What happens again?
ironically the only one i forgot existed
Let's be thankful those episode vpte poles on the rust bucket channel is down otherwise it'll be a side breakdown.
@@matijasostojic4288 that seems like a you problem mate
4:15 still one of my favorite scenes from all 4 series. Azmuth just realizing HE'S the one wasting time now is always hilarious.
That moment is tied with him punching Ben on the back of the head as the best Azmuth moment
agreed. being mad happens to everyone, but its the ability to see past your anger and get back to the point that makes people able to handle situations.
You know, omniverse's azmuth was probably the wisest version of the characters.
Like, can you imagine that iteration screaming in anger or saying "let the universe get destroyed I don't care"??
Interesting that Humongousaur made an appearance in every map piece episode.
1. His failed beat down on Greg
2. Nearly drowning before switching
3. Having an Ultimate appearance
4. Being a mistransformation.
Probably because he was a fan favorite and the map piece episodes were the ones people were REALLY supposed to tune in for
although ben didn't use him in forge of creation, his hologram appeared there when 10 year old ben is checking the ultimatrix, so I think humunguosaur appeared in all of the map of infinity episodes.
The omnitrix might've been getting in those Humungosaur transformations when Ben didn't need them because he usually always wants but never gets him. So the omnitrix can say it still gives Ben Humungosaur for whenever he complains.
Not gonna lie, it's getting annoying that Ben keeps using humongousaur, while not going ultimate.
@Geox Then again, they're are other aliens that can help him.
I will admit that even though the Ripjaws scene is short, and a little underwhelming, it is a pretty realistic transformation. He was used when absolutely necessary, got the job done, then reverts back before the lack of oxygen takes hold (presuming that's still a problem). Plus the transformation really was a nice surprise at the time, kinda like the Ghostfreak one later down the line.
I know what episode you're referencing, and I adore it so much.
That is the thing that sucks about Ripjaws. At this point, Ben has so many Aliens that do what Ripjaws does, but better because they can also breathe above water, like Jetray, AMPfibian, and presumably Brainstorm as well. There's basically no reason to use Ripjaws anymore.
Hell, even in Classic, he didn't get much love. He got used a decent amount in Season 1 & 2, but he only popped up twice in Season 4, and one was a mistransformation. And he didn't show up AT ALL in Season 3.
I guess this also sets up how the Omnitrix works in OV, where the alien Ben turns into depends more on the circumstances and setting than what Ben actually wants. Like when he got Astrodactyl, he was on its homeworld and surrounded by Khybers Panucian, or like you said when Ghostfreak returned in both UA and OV. Heck even in Classic.
@@PlayerZeroStart yeah. That’s one of the consequences of Ben getting lots of aliens. At some point, you start getting a lot of overlaps.
That’s one thing I liked about Classic. All of Ben’s aliens had generally their own niches and pros and cons that were more unique
@@PlayerZeroStart To be fair, Amphibian can read minds, but ben never uses it, this is one of my problems, Ben has aliens that are useful in some situations, but never uses them, also, agreed with you're comment.
“Why don’t you guys get a room, this place is full of them”
Gotta love Swampfire
Lol
Gotta love that line.
i feel like they really nailed the trio's personalities in this episode, especially Ben; he's got his signature confidence and jokes around, but it's balanced with his responsibility and understanding of how serious the mission is, and his empathy toward Kevin. also, i love how completely random the Perplexahedron is, i'd definitely go nuts if i got stuck in there lmao
If it was me:
Cannonbolt go brrrrrrrrrrrr
Alien X go brrrrrrrrrrrr
Way Big go brrrrrrrrrrrr
Upgrade go brrrrrrrrrrrr
@@talphazero1036 I have a feeling the place would counter act all of them besides alien X nuts just because how much of a hassle he is
How you describe Ben, it really describes me of Spider-Man, which i’ve never honestly thought about
Ben's best moment is probably when he totally blasted Azmuth in the opening.
@@aorekose4262 Thought of ben as just spider-man but with better luck. Plus both are voiced well by Yuri
Dont really wanna do this but:
- Ben gives the map piece to Kevin and then he and Gwen go to save the sentinel and distract Greg until Kevin riches the ship;
- After distracting Greg for enough time Kevin signals them that they are ready to fly away;
- Gwen teleports everyone including the guard inside the ship and they all celebrate the victory;
- Greg shows up from within the debree of the cube and shots the RB3 with lasers and ampiri energy;
- the RB3 is now drifting half destroyed along with half destroyed Perplexahedron into space;
- Either into a mana buble or in they suits the trio realize that the map piese is lost floating within that chaos;
- Greg now shows the other pieces he has and the missing one slowly floats and reunites with all of the others;
- Greg teleports or fly away while Ben almost has a mental breakdown and he shots Gregs name once more but the camera is set outside of the mana buble so the scream has some type of filters or is even muted because there is no sound in space;
- Episode ends. The next one starts with them still floating in there. They get teleported to Galvan 2. The Sentinel dies and Azmuth goes from calmly recaping theyr failure to screaming at them like an old angry man.
There...I did it...
I will make myself think this is the actual canon episode lol, well done!
5:54 the Ben 10: Game Creator gave Water Hazard a move called "bubble shield", which I always assumed this was supposed to be. Though if this was Ra'ad's power, it would have been nice if it was used again by Ampfibian or something, to establish it even exists as something he can do
Could be a mix of the bubble shield and Ra'ad's lightning.
for me i thing is pandor's power and ra'ads power combined just with amfibian color
Jooo the Game Creator I used to play that for hours, such good times, thx for reminding me of that
One of the biggest plot holes in my eyes is how paradox wouldn’t just keep a piece of the map with him in his pocket, then it would be impossible to get
I dont think its a plot hole, since Paradox main goal isn't to protect the map at all cost but instead to make sure the timeline flows into a optimal future, it clear he knew how things would turn out and that Agreggor would ultimately fail so him getting the pieces wasn't a problem, and these events most likely needed to happen so that Ben, Gwen and Kevin would mature and grow into greater heroes
He even later did that with a different map that was in his arm in OV(which I'm pretty dure was a ret on of him just knowing it all in his head anyway)
Maybe he doesn't have the power or legality to do that. I mean he's already in trouble with the Celestialsapiens
I love how Kuro, two series after Classic, still does the Ben 10,000 "KEVIN?!" gag.
I like how Kevin manages to beat up quite a few guards. I like when Material absorbing Kevin actually kicks ass and isn't just an easily defeated weakling.
Good to see Kevin in action
It's neat how learning about "Cube" here made me realize that Star Wars the Clone Wars also inspired by it in their episode "The Box"
I know this comment is a year old but same here. Never knew the Cube concept was based on something till now
Nice to learn something to everyday
Dwayne McDuffie said Ben reunlocked Ripjaws in ‘Deep’, but I wish they showed him do that on-screen. If that happened, alongside this Ripjaws appearance, that would be better in my opinion.
I think it’s even worse when you realize paradox put a alien in the cube to guard the piece and make that his life goal knowing very well that his life purpose would fail.
It makes me think, what would look like a Ben 10 timeline If Los Soledad experiment never happened
A lot of people kind of underestimate just how strong Kevin is just using his powers normally (aka absorbing materials into himself and physically becoming that material). A lot of people think he can just shape-shift a little and gets a durability boost, but they forget his bones and muscles are made of the material he absorbs at that point. Just imagine how much strength can be produced by someone with a humanoid muscle structure made of steel or harder materials. If you were to squeeze someone as hard as you can like that, it would be like getting crushed by a hydraulic press.
Plus how they make Kevin be able to absorb small pieces of the material that covers his entire body now instead only his arm or leg, he could just carry them in those stuff where people put coins in and capsules for liquid maybe
@@coolskeleton9560 If we're going through development route, one idea I've always found interesting is him carrying energy cells on him and using them as a power source while he creates makeshift weapons based on some of the tech he understands best. Kevin is high key the alien tech expert of the group and they rarely ever do anything with that lol.
@@kaiyamazaki1684 Soooo truuuuee, he will basically be like a mini Upgrade character! If he can become an alien freakshow from Ben 10 (some are literally just energy/sound) then he can do this! I felt like they wasted so much potential for every character in alien force and ultimate alien, it gets introduced but then not expanded enough for ME to get satisfied atleast. What ideas do you have?
I never understood why Kevin never tried absorbing and utilising energy, like electricity or fire, the flashback of his dad shows it should be possible; also, despite his powers being described as "capable of absorbing matter, energy and powers", he seems to focus only on solid matter, but what about liquids and gases, could he turn himself into water?
@@mastergreeen1385 I can kind of understand not using liquids or gases since that could be dangerous to test in an Uncontrolled environment. Turning into one of those things without knowing how to control it could end up getting you killed since he may turn into them in those cases. But energy is a different matter. We've seem Kevin absorb electricity in the original series and the reboot I believe so he can canonical do it with no issue, seems like having power cells or energy ammunition on hand might be useful to him.
I always thought the sentinel should have ended up being the REAL final piece of the map. Like after they save him he turns into the final piece because Paradox wanted to make sure the map wound up in the hands of a person who values life.
Okay but seriously it feels good to have these Ben moments where he “goes hero” to put it simply, never leave a person behind or lose hope.
It would've been better if he didn't fuck7ng evaporate the next second tho.
I'd like to think that those constructs you spoke of that Greg used were a hybrid of Pandor and Raads powers forming a strange double energy construct made of both the former's radiation and the Electric Energy of the latter.
Yeah, that makes sense to me.
tht makes sense also mina pfp
There could be some of Bivalvin's water in there as well to make the construct more malleable.
@@jackscrivens9520 mmmmmmaybe
@@bobbyahmad5197 we will become a cult and brotherhood us people with mina pfps
I honestly think Lauralyn/Sentinel was a single moment of time of a random being's life that Paradox cut out and gave sentience and then stretched out over the milennia needed to guard the map piece. Like the whole Clara thing from Dr Who Heaven Sent ( a single moment cut out of time and thus semi immortal).
I liked the use of Ripjaws. Based on the opening theme animation I always thought UA would feature more aliens casually and not in “starring roles”. Ripjaws just coming and going fits that idea.
28:28 And unsurprisingly, it actually worked for the most part over Gwen’s plan. I don’t think Gwen could’ve ever gotten Kevin weakened enough to carry out her plan alone.
that's awesome! i had no idea this episode was based on a movie, always learning new things from these breakdowns!
One of my favourite episode of the Map Of Infinity arc alongside "Where The Magic Happens"
First, Ben should got the Sentinel out of here with the map piece as he hesitated to go back, which led Greg from collecting it.
Second, Before Ben went back for the Sentinel, he should've gave the map piece to Kevin and return to the Rust Bucket.
Gwen and Kevin kiss is sweet "Why can't you guys get a room, this place is full of them" is funny.
Ok
How tf did you type this. The video came out a minute ago wtf
@@Jasmine-yw8pl might have written it before hand and just pasted it as soon as the vid came
@NaBrO3 Someone who wants to have one of the first comments for those sweet, sweet likes
I'd like to imagine that the reason Ben held on to the piece of the map of Infinity instead of giving it to Kevin like he should have, was because he needed it to navigate back to the Sentinel's room and then back to the ship.
There was that hint that the map piece was the thing that was leading him to the ship in the first place, so it's not a stretch to imagine that whoever holds it basically has the ability to traverse the Perplexahedron effortlessly and the rooms order themselves to the holder's preferred destination.
I'd believe you if that clearly wasn't true. Kevin was able to get back to the ship no problem, and he wasn't holding a map piece. Gwen's Plumber Badge was also leading them back to the ship. Maybe Ben would need it to get back, but to me, the implication was that since the Map Piece was removed, all the traps and shifting rooms of the Perplexahedron were disabled, so Ben probably would've been able to get back to the Sentinel without it.
Of course, I'm not going to fault Ben for not thinking that in the moment, he's under extreme stress
I always assumed the doors being different was intentional as it makes it more of a maze and gives each room a differentiation for the audience. The mana "not lining up" could be the start of the path and not where it connected to that room via the first door so it makes more sense for shifting as well. Fans work by using tilted blades to pull or push air... those blades were not tilted so they were not pushing or pulling strong enough to do much even counting the sharpness being slightly angled. (could have been fixed with slight shadows)
Oh I was scared that this episode might not get the full breakdown but I’m glad I was wrong :D
This episode was the memorable out of all ‘map of infinity’ episodes.
Oh c'mon we all knew out of 4 map of infinity episodes this would definitely gonna get full Breakdown
Perplexahedron is definitely one of most memorable episodes of Ben 10 History ❤️✨. Always love watching it.
Am I the only one that gets extremely intrigued by Kuro's naming of each breakdown??🤩🤩💕
Probably combined powers instead of constructs being something Amperi can do
15:49 the return of the Kevin joke!
Wow perfect plot armour. Always wondered why cant Ben use brainstorm or Gwen trap the Sentinel to save him from being killed if they want to save him haha.What a risky move to do after you've lost 3 pieces of the map!
I think my interpretation of Greg's forcefield when he's attacked outside the cube is now that it's a combination of Bivalvan and Raad's abilities. He puts out water a la Bivalvan and then uses some form of electrokinesis over that water to give it some kind of energy barrier effect.
my theory on how aggregor made those constructs: galapagus’ species, geochelone aerio, is noted as being VERY mana-sensitive, hence why Addwaitya is seen as the most powerful magic user in the series, and since now we know that charmcaster and gwen’s mana constructs are different colors, AND gwen’s magic was normally depicted as being blue in the classic series, I’d say aggregor was using his own novice version of a mana shield. but that’s just a theory.
I like to think that power belongs to the turtle guy. They are known to be very in tune with life energy. . . him visiting the realm of magic might have unlocked his magical potential and what we are seeing really IS mana like gwens. This could ALSO explain why gwen can't track him anymore. That being that he can now pull a dragon ball and "suppress his power level now that he has access to his ki", or in this case, mana, which gwen uses to track.
4:40 Problem with that idea is that, once you figure out how to get one piece, you pretty much figure out how to get them all. With how Paradox did this, you need a wide variety of knowledge and powers in order to not only figure out where the pieces are and how to reach them but also to do so.
6:07 Well, Terraspin's species can manipulate mana. So maybe a mix of Galapagus and Ra'ad.
Looking at the Sentinel (Lord Lauralyn Rose) and Ujin, Paradox seems to have a habit of putting people to look after things for who knows how long only for some villain to take it thanks to Ben's intervention.
i just realized from that ben vs green lantern video he could of won if he had picked toepick or ghostfreak
Aggregor to be reminds me of the quote from Thanos "The Hardest Choices Require The Strongest Wills", in that Aggregor keeps winning because he's willing to do anything, while Ben and the others are held back by their morals and fears. It took Kevin making a big scarfice to actually beat the man, and it certainly affects Ben during the ultimate Kevin arc because last time he held back, they almost lost to Aggregor. So while I wish Aggregor could have been a more well rounded character/we got to know more about him, I do love the effect he has on the characters.
That Majestor was an Incursion I don't care what anyone on the show said. He looks almost exactly like one and he made so many frog references.
Felt like the inclusion of Ripjaws was made entirely pointless by him not showing up ever again- which of course this episode had no control over, but still.
As a moment on its own it comes off as “wow, Ben pulled an old one casually that we didn’t even know was re-unlocked! He’s getting real good with this new watch and is a versatile hero”. Outside of that moment though, he rarely ever does stuff like that again, so it’s like… did they forget a big part of the premise was how many aliens he has or was there some kind of network mandate that prevented them from capitalizing on it?
My headcanon is that the Sentinel was like the CPU that made the whole cube function, so like, directly or indirectly he was the one mantaining or processing the actions of the guards and traps, probably also having to deal with aliens that try to get close to get close to the Cube or somehow even find a way to enter without the key, like teleportation or smth
I can only imagine Ben thought he could lure Greg away, but he should have turned into Big Chill and started phasing through everything to avoid him
12:50 I don’t know if you’ll read this but I guess it’s worth a shot.
In my opinion, sometimes I think Ben doesn’t quick change because maybe he kind of goes:”Eh, wasnt what I wanted but I can still make this work” after all in the classic series he’s had tons of practice adapting to the omnitrix’s mistakes on the fly.
I know the meta reason is just to make it a callback to the original but I do believe in some cases this can be explained in a character choice as one of Bens defining traits as a hero is his adaptability.
“Yeah I wanted Waterhazard to douse this fire but maybe I can use Heatblast to calm the flames, I’m also immune to fire in this form so maybe I can use that to my advantage to”
One of the most memoriable episodes in the Ben 10 history and they executed very well. Everything was enjoyable in this episode. The characters' personalities were well done. Especially Ben's. It redefined what kind of a hero he is once he put on the omnitrix from Alien Force. And the ending where Sentinel dies always gets me. It was a perfect build up for the "Forge of Creation" episode that is to be followed.
"Kevin!?" will NEVER get old
15:50 I hope this meme never dies, can't wait to hear it every 2 seconds once we reach the Ultimate Kevin arc
4:52 Because Once Some criminal (like Aggregor) finds one piece he would know that he has to find a PerplexaHedron sommewhere in the Galaxy. Whereas in this place it is Unimaginable to Predict that other piece would be in Legerdomain or on Necrofigians Planet.
I imagine the Perplexahedran was built using some sort of upper-dumensional materials and technologies, kinda like that "toy" cube from AF s3, hence, it can pretty much create each individual room almost instantaneously the moment someone crosses over from one to another
Paradox probably made this thing in the most literal way possible, "one piece at a time", cause he's got infinite time on hands (and no ptobem with spending an infinite amout of time too), heck, that's probably how he must've cleaned up the mess afterwards too; just came in, took a piece of debris, dumped it somewhere/incinerated it, rinse and repeat
I like the mistransforming when it's done in a way that bens like " screw it might aswell stick with this" or scenes where switching might waste power when he needs it but yeah scenes when he could easily switch and there's no worry about power running out or anything are kinda bullshit. I mean I'd rather have mistransforming when he could easily switch than not have it at all
I think the reason Ben doesn't immediately transform again after a mistransformation is because it takes up more charge from the Omnitrix (as they mentioned in Video Games).
18:22 Damn i never noticed that line. Revisiting this episodes after years his motives to join the group is really touching.
The guard thing makes no sense to me, if you're hiding a major artifact, one: Why give your opponent a clue to find you?, two: the guards don't matter, they're just giants, Why not have it so the floors turn into boiling acid, or the walls electrify/magnetize themselves? Why not weaponize gravity to make the opponent too heavy to move?
I haven't seen Cube, but I did know that it was written specifically to accommodate for the creators only having one room to work with. That's literally all I knew prior to this video, and now I'm tempted to watch it.
This is still one of my favorite episodes of Ben 10 that isn't a season finale or something like that. The perplexahedron is just a fun challenge for the trio.
I love the scene where the Gwen and Kevin are going trough the traps and they're talking so casualy about it with Ben. Really shows how good they can handle situations like those. Ben could've helped them, but in my headcannon, I say he's just saving energy in his Ultimatrix for battling Greg
I believe the gravitation in the cube is different, thus allowing for super jumps from Ben himself
I figured Aggregor’s weird blue constructs were supposed to be from the alpha rune. It would retain its magical powers, no? Maybe the magic combines with Ra’ad’s power, sorta like how Brainstorm could do shields
The whole trope of a bad guy needing to collect a bunch of things for their master plan and the good guys never succeeding in stoping that plan from happening but defeat the bad guy in the end anyway never gets old. Seen it enough times as a kid to recognize a pattern.
Some series do it better than others. I think shaolin showdown and Jackie chan adventures did it beast cause there cause the items always felt more unique and often went back and forth between the hero and bad guy teams.
@@GreaterGrievobeast55 yeah sometimes those kinds of storylines would have the heros get a few wins to make it seem like they could stop the plan only to end up losing it all in the end later for one reason or another. In ben 10 they just consistently lost every piece.
Ben gives up the map to save the sentinel just for the sentinel to fade to nothing anyway. I would be pissed.
Four different groups were probably assigned to hide the four map pieces which is why there aren't four Perplexahedrons
I know they want to escalate Greg being a threat but they don't need to make Ben do the wrong choice like letting Greg escape from Pisciss and try to save Sentinel from Greg, they should've wrote it that Ben tried to stop Greg but got one shot as Greg hits him with electrokinesis that magnified by aquatic environments and Ultimate Big Chill 's vulnerability that Ben fainted and Ultimatrix switch him to Ripjaws to save him from drowning. And here, Greg was aware Ben has the fragment and fought him then used Sentinel as hostage, taking advantage of Ben's heroic nature and he will still get lectures for letting his morality gets the best of him, causing Kevin to tell Ben sometimes you must take the hard decision, even if it goes against everything he stands for, with Gwen being against it (as she tried to be pacifist).
I've said it before and I'll said it again. Greg's constant victories feel less like he's powerful and feels more like a plot device for Kevin to turn evil again considering the end of this season
21:17 that’s exactly why he needed them as well as getting the pieces from Mikd’lty, Piscciss and ledgerdomain
11:03 all the differences between the movie and the episode you mentioned here is what makes me think the episode is based on the sequel "Hypercube" since the Hypercube is 4 dimensional and folds on itself, also the overall appearance of the rooms
I like to think Paradox gathered all the resources he needed having the blueprint already in his mind and left them in a pile on a platform walked off of the platform to be far away from it and from his perspective: he close his hands together with the platform of resources in view and crushed it togther forming a cube and copied the cube before getting out world editor and started to copy paste the cube multi times eventually making the Perplexahedron. Basically the creation of the Perplexahedron in a nutshell.
This episode was definitely the most creative imo, and also I agree with your opinion with Ben , this episode made me feel sorry for him so much too, it's always interesting to me seeing the hero make a mistake in a cartoon, it's very rare.
Stopping in the middle of the review to air out my thoughts on the conversation that Ben and Kevin have regarding how Ben views Kevin and how Kevin views himself. While it's a really sweet sentiment and I love the tender moment they have together in a long overdue heart to heart, it rings a little hollow after the events in the Forge of Creation. I understand that Kevin has given in to his Osmosian instincts and is on a rampage, I feel like Ben's sudden resolution to straight up kill him is very out of character after calling Kevin "The big brother he never had." With that kind of attachment, you would think he'd rather find a way to cure him instead of resolving to straight up put him down. The 180 Ben has in that regard feels very forced.
It makes sense considering how at that point, Kevin was basically an even more powerful version of Aggregor. It was only a matter of time before Kevin changed his mind about the baby Celestialsapien.
Exactly, but UA stans can't admit it.
The way I viewed is that Ben is one of the only people to know how Kevin can get when he’s absorbed that much insane power. Even though this part is head canon, I do believe that they both had a conversation with each other about taking the other out if they were to go crazy with power. Based off of Kevin’s statement when he’s cured at least. Ben took killing Kevin seriously bc he knew he was the only one who could. The only one who could release Kevin from his imprisonment. Whereas gwen wanted him to return to the way he was. I think it was more of a love and respect thing than it was a “I can’t believe you went back to your old ways” kinda thing
@@animeamvs7863 Nah, is just stupid writing.
In terms of setting this is probably one of the best episodes of the franchise
So happy this got a full breakdown
These gravity-shifts inside the Perplexahedron really remind me of BASIS, a spaceship from the PerryRhodan book-series
Gotta respect the team for taking a concept from a movie like Cube and making it their own for this episode. Also Havin Ripjaws in deep made more sense, but I'm fine with him being used her.
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I just love imagining Paradox hiring a team to build the Perplexahedron
Coincidentally i just watched this episode 2 hours ago so the breakdown was more fun because i was all caught up on the things happening in the episode
I feel like the constructs really are a hybrid power, since they’re similar in design to P’Andor’s radiation blasts, but with the solid blue of Rad’s energy. My best guess is that it’s P’Andor’s radiation being focused by Rad’s amperi energy control to form a solid barrier that can also be used to form constructs as well.
First of all, very glad this got a full breakdown. You do great work, Kuro.
Now, I decided to rewatch this episode before watching the breakdown and the opening shot with the trio from an upward perspective (like in the original godzilla movie) Ben looks kinda off model. or at least smaller and leaner than normal. He looks like he's barely three fifths of Kevins height.
Also, I'm totally with Gwen about Ben roasting Azmuth for being a prick. I'm proud of Ben for somehow being more mature than Azmuth of all people in that one scene. A rare nugget of gold in the flip-flop of Bens character through UA and OV.
I think because Ben didn't know Greg was in there so he took the better of him holding the piece rather than kevin
Looks like I need to check out Cube. I'm always up to see another type of horror movie, so I'll add it to the list. Looking forward to the breakdown of The Forge of Creation
This is my favorite episode of the series. I was honestly afraid it wouldn't get a review since the last episode did. I'm so excited for this.
Fun fact, this is not the only Cartoon Network show to parody The Cube. The episode Mystery Dungeon in Adventure Time also takes various elements from the film.
I’d like to imagine the sentinel would periodically leave the Cube, and just teleport back whenever someone entered. Like this centuries old squid man was partying in Space Vegas until Greg waltzed up
This episode has a lot of white and blue, much like how in the Portal games you'll usually solve puzzles in rooms that are more White and Grey.
It may be true to Ben's character, but I just can't help but shout, "You fucking idiot!"
The little bit of dialogue between Ben and Kevin that was so heartfelt was incredible to me as a child and even now. Glad they’re showing at least somewhat that men are allowed to be emotional and don’t have to fit to a toxic masculinity standard
You’re assuming the perplexahedron has euclidian geometry, Its easy to say it’s bigger on the inside because of paradox being connected but also consider the concept sufficiently advanced tech is indistinguishable from magic and the fact we know that paradox is capable of going basically anywhere and when and that the map is also from the future and the perplexahedron doesn’t really any rationality
Since the perplexahedron was built by paradox, couldn't it be able shift through space and that is why the rooms can randomly move like that
I think the Perplexahedron is primarily technology. It's basically a classic examole of the old "Any suitably advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic". A man with access to every time and place in the universe built the world's greatest deathtrap, complete with whatever technology from whatever time period and location would help best.
My question is: if the map of Infinity is supposed to be separate to protect it, why is the Perplexahedron built more like a test than a guard?
I like to think that Paradox knew Ben would eventualy lost the piece soo he made to protect only from comnoners
Counterpoint to ben bringing map piece to save sentinel. He didn't know precisely where Greg was in the perplexahedron, it just happened to be bad luck that Greg found the sentinel any of the trio could have run into Greg, so I think Dwayne macduffe's explanation makes sense
Okay so Greg's constructs I'm calling it a hybrid of Radd and Galapagos. Because remember how Terraspin's species is able to deal with mana? So I am actually basing this partly off of your comment that it looks like Gwen's powers. So I'm saying it's a fusion of Radd and Galapagos.
Ben's wrong decisions got fixed by omniverse
The time loop plot
All things was meant to happen
Question: Could Ben transform into an Ultimate Human?
Sure, Ben can’t transform into other humans because his DNA would be too similar, but since Albedo could transform into an Ultimate Graymatter, this should mean that Ultimates have enough of a genetic difference for a successful transformation.
And yes, it would probably be Giga-Chad. I imagine Giga-Chad would look like Ben 10,000 in the artstyle.
And could Ben transform into Gwen or Kevin, since they aren’t Humans? I think?
Albedo only worked because Albedo himself now is just a human, so when he becomes a galvan, he becomes A galvan, not Albedo himself.
@@gamingnubs7628 Wait, so he started as a Galvin, then his DNA changed so much he permanently became a Human and then he was able to transform back into a Galvin?
Isn’t that all he wanted to do? Why didn’t he just reprogram the Ultimatrix to lock him in one transformation, his Galvin form?
@@adamkaangambrill Basically, Albedo was a galvan, who was deemed unworthy of the Omnitrix, so he tried to create his own, and due to being human at the time where Azmuth took his knockoff Omnitrix away, it left him permanently stuck in human form, so when he builds the Ultimatrix, he wishes to become a galvan again, however, thanks to the Ultimatrix being linked to the Omnitrix, the galvan transformation is locked, so he had to team up with Vilgax, who ended up backstabbing him.
Ben's ultimatrix is different from albedo's Dna Stablalizer so probably not ,although if he could , i agree it would turn him into GigaChad ben , as for gwen ,anodites "dna " are not in the omnitrix ( even if ben has access to more powerfull and complex transformations like Alien X,so sadly not) and Kevin is a human with powers , not quite an alien ,so no . Note , an ultimate human probably could use magic and kevin's power since they ae so adaptable and all , all info is from a video a watched a while back about an ultimate human , don't remember the name of said video.
@@rafaelconstantino9736 Thank-you Mr evil Galvanic Mechamorph.
I think that putting a piece of the map in Ledgerdemain is understandable, because it's somewhere that's almost impossible to access, and the Alpha Rune is going to be controlled by an incredibly powerful mystic, but putting it on two random planets? Nah.
I would've liked to see Ripjaws in Deep with his OG raspy voice. Honestly, you could give Ripjaws both his raspy voice and bubbly high pitched voice to please everyone. When he's on land, he has the raspy voice, when he's underwater, he has the high pitched voice. Though I gotta say OG Ripjaws is the best design of them all, the milky white eyes, uneven protruding teeth and the shape of the jaws themselves sell it for me. UA Ripjaws looks more like a koi fish, while OV looks like his jaws and teeth are too small.
16:17 i just realized uaf gwen is wearing high heels, no wonder dagon called her "The Most Powerful Being in The universe" if she can fight in heels!
Well... thanks, I admit you made me appreciate this episode even more. I didn't realize all the things it did well back then. It's really a good one.
I agree that the Sentinel should have been Vilgax's species. I like when aliens we already saw come back, makes the world-building feel more real.
Also yeah, Ben going back to save the Sentinel is stupid - but I am fine with it because it's completely in character for Ben. He just can't leave people behind. And yeah, you nailed it with Ben; I thought Ben going killer on Kevin worked because we do get to see him descent to the point where he'd believe so.
Perhaps Greg’s force fields are a combination of Ra’ad’s electricity and Greg’s own osmosian absorption powers. Greg might be absorbing the lasers and using his now natural energy manipulation to generate the fields.
I only found out about the cube a couple of years ago. I didn't know the reference until now. It was a pretty interesting Ben 10 episode, I think this was my favorite map of infinity location/episode.
The perplexahedon is my dream dnd mega dungeon. The creative traps are the best part of it.
How the heck did you make me care about the sentinel so much that I’ll now remember him as Lauralyn? I love your breakdowns.
Actually the reason why ben doesn't Instantly try to transform again when he misstransformations is because he doesn't want to use up the battery
I like the idea that Ripjaws has two subspecies similar to upchuck, like one is deep ocean the other is more like river or lake dwelling, especially since the designs are based on an angler fish and a catfish respectively
I just realized they could've easily solved this whole thing from the beginning if Ben just went Upgrade...
Thing is with Ben giving the map piece to Kevin is if aggregor finds out ben doesn't have it he'll pretty quickly figure out who does and he'll end up most likely killing Kevin and destroying the ship. Dooming the others, Ben in that moment knew Kevin couldn't protect the map piece if aggregor found him so he kept it knowing he and gwen could at the very least protect themselves even if aggregor got the map piece, i believe he didn't want to put Kevin in danger mostly because he doesn't want to potentially lose him but I also think partly because he knew aggregor would most likely destroy the ship aswell meaning both Ben and gwen would also be doomed
Super happy to see three full breakdowns. Yes I said three because we all know Forge of Creation is getting a full breakdown it's too big not to get one
I'm ok with Rip Jaws not being in Deep, since literally every other character in that episode beside the trio we're Rip Jaws's species. Needed more variety. Also for some reason I like the idea of Rip Jaws having like an Italian style New York eccent, like Gut Rot but deeper
I like to imagine this is a subspecies of ripjaws because this one looks really different, almost like a catfish
Agreed!