Scott Hall - What Bret Hart was Like to Wrestle in WWF
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- Scott Hall discusses wrestling Bret Hart many times in WWF and where he ranks Bret as an overall performer. Stream New Shoot Interviews 📺 TitleMatchNetwork.com
RIP to the late-great Scott Hall. Here the Bad Guy talks about "The Hitman" Bret Hart, their match for the World Wrestling Federation Championship and reaction to Ric Flair's comments calling Bret overrated.
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RIP to the late-great Scott Hall
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Scott had one of the greatest wrestling minds in the business. He also had no problem putting anyone over or whether he was a champion or not. He had a mind for the business and knew how to change with the times. RIP.
He was the man
agreed, really interesting perspective on Brett and his WWF taped vignettes. I didn't think about it like that but he convinced me maybe I was not looking at the whole picture here.
He would probably work a deal with a concession stand worker
"Hey when I go for this grab, you roll me back and get the 3, I'll deal with the repercussions in the back and tell him it was my fault"
"Scott? You know I'm not a wrestler, right?"
"Yeah but you'll be a legend in the stands forever! Everyone's gonna want your nuts"
Scott is very interesting to listen to and clearly very intelligent. RIP Scott Hall
Your comment reminded me of when I met Scott Hall at Hogan’s Beach Shop. I told him he was one of my all-time favorite wrestlers and Scott said “Well, you’re obviously an intelligent guy with great taste in wrestlers” 😂
RIP Scott Hall
Bret vs 1-2-3 Kid is still one of my favorite matches of all time
It's Kid's favorite too.
Kid's first match with razor and that match with Bret was probably the angles from that year
Thats a fantastic match...
Owen vs 123 kid at KOTR 94 was awesome as well
Tore the house down on a regular RAW
The biggest missed opportunity in WCW was not letting him just wrestle. You had guys like Jericho, Malenko, Eddie Guerrero, Perry Saturn, Mysterio, etc. We were lucky to have him get a match with Benoit and Booker T. All those guys were some of the best in-ring wrestlers in the business at the time.
i just watched Perry Saturn make his debut in WCW on Peacock. incredible wrestler. he destroyed Disco Inferno with an array of holds. And everything he did was so smooth.
bret had a match with scott hall that was awesome
@@ducklife420and Goldberg ruined his career
Yeah they are wrong about it being his fault not getting over basically only good match he had was against benoit (best match I ever saw in wcw in fact.) He should have been booked in fueds with all the top guys and it never happened then wcw went down the toilet.
They didn't let the big boys play.
Maaaan this guy was SO SHARP...brilliant mind for the business. When he said "some guys matches were entertaining enough the announcers could talk about other stuff" Booker T immediately came to mind. That is awesome that Scott would talk to guys like this behind the scenes. Booker and Bret had that in common even though Booker was also good on the mic in addition to his ring skill. Then of course Benoit, Guerrero and Jericho all fit that bill as well. Scott should have been a booker or head creative for some promotion....r.i.p.
Bret didn't need a microphone. WCW should have had Bret Hart vs Hogan. That's what the fans wanted.
He came in at a bad time. The fans wanted Hogan vs Sting first and that feud should’ve lasted 6 months since it was the culmination of the nWo vs WCW and Sting turning his back on WCW over War Games 96
Bret was fine on the mic! He was booked against mid-carders instead of getting main event heat! WCW was afraid to push Bret.
@@texasjack6289 He always sounded whiny and bitter. Way better wrestler than talker.
I was a huge fan then and I didn’t want that.
They rushed him heel, sided him with Hogan, and let him beat Sting in a terrible match. So many better options.
This really tells you a lot about Scott. You could tell he was a little offput by Bret calling the shots in their matches and saying if he'd had more time he wouldn't have allowed it to happen, and the interviewer throws in a "Do you think he's overrated like Flair says?" and Scott immediately cuts that off. Why? Because Scott can disagree with something and still not be a hater. Too many other wrestlers just can't get over themselves and become full on haters for the dumbest of reasons.
Plus: At that time (January 1993) it was the right move by Hart. Hall was relatively fresh in the WWF and Hart was the champion. And Hart knew how to put over other wrestlers and make them look good. Actually these guys should've had an angle in later years when they were fully "seasoned".
Most of the kliq very much respected Bret, and liked working with him. Nash had nothing but great things to say about working with him as well. Really it was only Shawn that had the problems with him. But the rest of the kliq all as workers saw him for exactly what Bret was. A very easy guy to have great matches with. They never had to sweat a thing with him. They'd be making money, and be getting taken care of with the highest level of skill.
@@braddorcas9363And tbf, even Shawn said that Bret was a brilliant worker (and vice versa), even when the relationship was crumbling. It's a damn shame they weren't able to get past their issues.
I love hearing honest reactions
I’ve never heard someone describe wrestling as he did.
RIP Scott Hall…
thats so true, rip scott hall sir
Scott Hall truly understood the business
Interesting perspective.
I liked Bret. He's literally the wrestler that made me a WWF fan growing up in the 80s. Straight to the point and awesome wrestler imo!
Explaining why announcers talk about other matches and all these guys being technically sound and asthetically pleasing is actually very interesting. I miss this man
#RIPScottHall
Bret in late 97 was NOT "bad on the stick". At that point he was better than pretty much anyone in the NWO who had gotten lazy and fallen into inside jokes as promos, to crack each other up.
All bret did was complain on the mic lol anyone can sound good complaining 🤣
What were the rest of the wrestlers doing? "Let me tell ya something,.....one more thing I'll tell ya, ..... and he thinks he's so badass but when you wrestle me..." ya soooo much better. 🙄
I haven't heard him speak not in character before. Seems like a cool and intelligent guy.
I never thought of Bret matches like that it makes sense. Scott broke it down perfectly.
That's an amazing point about how they can talk about other matches and story lines while a match is going on because they are so good in the ring it's just great to just watch the match and listen to the commentary and they don't need to do the play-by-play for the match. That's an excellent point Scott made
That Royal Rumble match was great, it was a clean finish, after some back and forth action. There was a lot of close falls.
"no comment"
*Proceeds to comment 😂😂
He thought about it and decided to say something nice. I thought about that too. Lol.
“No comment” lol.
No comment implies he only had bad things to say. He knew it was better to say something nice.
Of course Hall didn’t want Bischoff replaced; Bischoff let Hogan, Nash and Hall run that company … and, eventually, into the ground.
You may not like bischoff but I think people would have talked to him behind the scenes and said you got to get your act together in 1999 or else we are out of business
The executives ran it to the ground
Not wrestlers
Bret was a bit dry on the mic but could out wrestle 99.9% of talent all day every day
A "bit" dry?
He was a 75 year old vagina on the mic.
Bret isn't that great. He wasn't even the best Hart
But he wasn't really outwrestling anybody, was he? It's fake. Scripted. Choreographed entertainment. The only point of it is to draw money and Bret failed to do that. That doesn't even make him a good fake wrestler, much less the best, that makes him a bad fake wrestler.
According to just about every single person who wrestled him disagrees with you on his skills
Seeing as Bret is the only one sspoken about from the Hart family by default he's the best Hart
Owen sucked and was never more than a jobber Bulldog was ok Jim was decent as well
Wow, lots of Hart hate here 😒
DEFINITELY, my favorite is Brett ❤
I appreciate the answer Scott
Good interview.
Scott seemed like such a cool dude. I love how he is so positive in this interview, and seems so genuine too. And even when he had the opportunity to bury someone (Russo), he refused to comment and even went above and beyond and complimented what he did like about the guy. I know Scott gets a bad rap sometimes, but he is straight up class in this video.
I love Scott, but some of these comments are quite silly. Bret was a phenomenal heel in 97 coming into WCW & his mic work had advanced quite a bit by that point. Bret was white hot at the time WCW got their hands on him, & they brought him in as a fucking referee. Also with the way WCW & the NWO angle was being run at that time, maybe they should have changed the stupid constant runs ins & comedy & lack of wrestling & concentrated on the wrestling aspect.
Well said!
Agreed 110%. 💯
I think people overlook the way Bret sold the product on the mic. His serious demeanor alone made you think he wasn't messing around so when he dropped a few cuss words in his pipe bombs it made the heat seem legitimate. I appreciated the fact that he didn't play a hokey pokey character and stayed true to his persona during an era when everyone else was looking for cheap sophomoric pops and comedic routines.
They had a golden opportunity to have Sting go over Hogan clean(and according to hogan and bischoff sting wasn't at the top of his game with personal issues)....with the idea that Bret would be in the mix to challenge for the title. Have hogan use his rematch clause and have bret interfere on behalf of sting, and nash interfere for hogan. No contest. Then do a fatal 4 way with sting as champ, bret, hogan and nash. Use that match to see nash betray hogan for Bret letting Bret win the belt. Bret is the new leader of the NWO, and kick out all of the watered down guys. Bring it down to Bret, Nash, Hall, and Randy Savage. That would make it strong again and put a fresh paint. Have Hogan do a long walk back to the yellow and red. So many great ways to tell this story with Bret. How did they get it wrong? Just baffles me.
Anti bret was the best
Pretty underrated comment that some wrestlers are so god in the ring that it doesn't always need the commentary to sell it.( Aj styles for example) that's something most people don't talk about and Scott hall clearly knows his stuff.
Scott gave real facts on talent skills and great sense that you can’t coach everyone to be great.
This is the first time Ive heard WCW and when Bret joined the company. From the first week he was there, I was upset at how he was handled. I remember hearing about Bret joining and thought he was a huge upgrade to WCW. We had all the NWO noise going on, they were great but Hulk was far past his prime (my opinion, don’t get upset!). I was fan enough I bought an NWO t-shirt. The story was a great idea but it had way to much air time and robbed fans with not enough wrestling time. Bret signing should have him vs Goldberg day one. Bret could make anyone look like a superstar. Fans never saw any of that happen. Was Russo the booker? My memory is bad after several strokes and I no longer remember when Dusty stopped being the head booker. Hellfire! Dusty was old but a Bret vs Dusty match would be the biggest match in WCW and could sell out a Starcade or other PPV event.
Bro I bet you wrote the coolest thing ever but it's like to long to read homie😢
😂😂😂 no you didnt
The only T-shirt I ever bought for wrestling was a Wolf Pack? Shirt. I was given a Hogan shirt by a friend it was too big for him.
@@michaelmcclenon6663 It takes maybe thirty seconds to read what he wrote.
I think Bret was great on the mic specially in the USA vs Canada angle
OG SCOTT HALL#1 (RIP) AKA
THE BAD GUY RAZOR RAMON#1
Ooozzing Machismo
Maaan if Bret took that deal earlier and HE was the third outsider instead of hogan. What a wild alternate universe
It wouldn't work if was anybody else beside hogan
could've been the 4th guy instead of Giant
Him being the third guy would have been good, but Hogan being the third guy was GREAT!
Bret is my all time favorite, going back to 1991.
That being said, I don’t think anyone could have ever been the third man but Hogan. Where he was at in his career, the audience was ready to hate him and this was the moment they needed.
I think Hogan as the 4th man might have been even more shocking in this scenario than him being the third man was.
Bret was checked out. He was hurt my the screw job, everyone has said he didn’t want to actually leave. Vince told him to get the payday, so he did. Then with Owen passing not long after, you can’t blame the guy. Everyone close to him passed away. His brother, his brother in law, a good friend…. Hard to be really motivated to keep going, when he’s already accomplished everything.
Bret was a guy who’s focus was 100% on the art of the craft. like scott said his mic skills were pretty trash. That said, he put Austin over so imo, us attitude era fans, were all in his debt. Now Austin was semi technical but was spitting straight BARS on the mic and sold more tickets, shirts, games, ect. than anybody bcuz of that
Bret was champ at the wrong time in the early 90s ,when ppl wasn't feeling wwe but ppl love anti bret
Nope, Bret would've bankrupted the WWF had he stayed and demanded to remain on top.
Bret was a nice B+ player but not superstar talent like Hulk, Rock, Austin or even Cena
This is true. You don’t need to be “technically” the “best” wrestler, but, if you have gold mic skills and can make the people laugh, you are as good as golden, and will likely remain on the roster just cause you are a fan favorite.
@@NoneofYabiz-rx3ziFar superior wrestler than those three don’t forget to add.
Hall got one thing correct here: the nWo was a circus that turned the WCW into a clown show with lots of useless trash talking and barely any proper wrestling, and Bret did not fit in there because he was a proper Wrestler who took his craft seriously and had a sense of pride regarding his work.
Bret was mishandled. Bischoff admitted so. Bret and VKM even both said before he left 'they're not gonna know what to do with me' and he was right. Bret is still a giant of the industry and the fact he apparently told AEW he'd agent matches and stuff for them and they REFUSED is one of the biggest mistakes in aews short, and tragic history. Bret offers you a hand, you take it. Especially when it comes to putting matches together. Hall offers you a hand on promo work, you again take him up on that. You let people help you make money. Miss Hall, sad how his last days were, but, legends never really due. May he RIP.
I don't think Bischoff ever admitted that.
"We barely wrestled" - yeah one of the reasons wcw closed its doors within 3 yeats or so....
Hall called it a well oiled machine lmfao
RIP Scott Hall
Scott was a walking master class in wrestling business…😊
I respect Bret Hart and all that he has done in the industry. I did always feel his arsenal of maneuvers was on the soft side. His timing was perfect
. It is Admirable to never hurt a soul. Just not any devastating maneuvers
What? All of his stuff was snug. His punches looked savage. His backbreaker and Russian leg sweep were legit.
All of his stuff looked like it hurt.
You’ll never hear anyone say anything bad about him as an in ring competitor, probably the in ring GOAT!
Hart is one of the best wrestlers of all time!
Rip Scott hall
Booker T, Benoit, Jericho, Eddie were similarly great in the vein of Bret Hart in Hall's mind. That's a solid take away
Brett's wrestling is top 3 of all time
Scott Hall had a solid wrestling mind and is a great shoot interview, but Bret Hart was sorely underrated on the microphone. Bret Hart's "Who are you to doubt El Dandy" interview with Mean Gene was top shelf. WCW definitely dropped the ball with Bret.......... and countless others.
Pretty cool to see scott actually say something nice about hitman. I don't know I found some of bretts wcw promo work entertaining and who are you to doubt el dandy.
Being taped and being live is a huge difference. I can now see where Bret was a bit stale on the mic in wcw. Wow. Wcw at some point should’ve started taping and editing more for people like Bret. Bret was a favorite of mine as a kid
its a known fact brett hart was the most sound perfect wrestler there ever was
Very interesting point by Scott: when the wrestler is interesting enough in the ring, the commentator has time to talk about other wrestlers, matches, angles, etc. I remember once switching to a channel, where there was an Indy Wrestling show, which I can't remember the name. The commentator was soooo boring, he only spoke about the moves the wrestlers are doing right now in the ring, as we're all blind!
Scott Hall should've been World champion at least one time, in either promotion.
Scott was a genuinely good guy
If Scott hadn't had those demons he would've been an amazing creative backstage guy at wwe
He's exactly right about WCW and Brett. RIP
WCW was anything but a well oiled machine🤣
@@VodkaSoda Was in 1997 when they were still kicking WWF's butt. Try paying attention
@@markula_4040i always preferred WCW over WWF, but I couldn't stand Hogan, and Vince revolved around Hogan
Interesting to see this again, cause Scott went back and forth on his opinion of Bret throughout the years. There are instances of him saying he wasn’t that impressed by Bret and that he felt Bret was overrated, but at other times he comes off as very reverential of what Bret accomplished. It’s always come off to me as him being loyal to friends of his who Bret has had legitimate heat with, and depending on what had happened in the world of wrestling drama at any given time, Scott would kinda tailor his opinion to that moment.
Such an interesting and complicated dude, was Scott.
I always liked Scott Hall. Goldberg never got on the mic for a long time and got over huge, because he was featured with purpose. I was a huge Bret Hart fan. He was hardly ever on TV and when he was, he was rarely featured in any major matches or angles. That’s on management.
I wonder what his opinion of Russo was after working for him in TNA?
No comment...... Hes a nice guy, Chico
lol
I miss Hall and hearing his insights
I remember the Hall & Nash invasion and yes, it seemed like forever before they actually wrestled ( and it was PPV) it was mostly comedy.
The problem with WCW and Bret was that WCW was showcasing good technical wrestling on the midcard and lower, but that was Bret's strength. Also, at the time, it was WCW vs. NWO. Bret wasn't WCW and he didn't vibe with NWO. They could have tried to use Bret to IMPROVE the overall quality of upper card matches, but it was Hogan's kingdom, and that wasnt gonna work.
Nope, that wouldn't work for Hogan, brother.
It is interesting to hear that Scott didn’t feel Bret was great on the mic.
He came off great in WWF, but that could be because the company had a better environment to help those guys. For example, pre-recording as much as they could.
So I kind of agree with Scott but for different reasons. WCW overtook WWF on Bret's watch. So now that Bret is in WCW, what are you going to do? Book him to beat all the top guys he couldn't outdraw when he was in the other company?
Book him with the top talent in matches that mattered, period. Win or lose, Bret could get a 5 star classic out of all the top guys and elevate everyone. Doesn’t necessarily have to book him to win them all
Bret was great on the mic. You're there to sell a match. You don't have to be a comedian or a poet. Those things are fine, but you don't have to have that.
And lol, it's not even a question IF WCW mishandled Bret. He was THE hottest name in the business when he came in. The problem was the top 10 guys in WCW all had Bischoff (idiot) contracts, so they had creative control over how they were booked. There was nothing for Bret to do, but wrestle midcarders.
Razor was a great wrestling mind!
He was not wrong about Brett just not fitting with WCW direction at the time. Always felt like his move there was forced and he didnt really belong.
Hall was willing to kill a dude for Owen ....respect all day
“Who are you to doubt el dandy?”
I'm a life long fan of Brett I watched him dynamite Davey Boy nighthart all every Saturday and every second Tuesday night live I could do Brett's whole finishing routine to my buddies on the playground
I wouldn’t say Bret didn’t have mic skills. He was a serious wrestler he was good at bringing Heat and making stuff seem real. WCW as Scott said was more of comedy act and that’s just not who Bret is.
I had Perfect in my ear….miss them All!
Still love Bret Hart!
RIP Razor
I love scott but they dropped the ball on Bret & lot of the guys wanted it that way
They may have dropped the ball when they came to him being there because it was just too many ships in the kitchen but unfortunately Bret Hart I love the man but he is not good on the mic
@@attiepollard7847anti bret was good af on the mic
Bret was over it’s just they didn’t book him right, let’s be honest, Hogan was calling the shots and he made sure no one would outshine him, before Bret left for wcw, his heel turn, reuniting the heart foundation he was great on the mic, Scott hall could have buried hart here but didn’t, he spoke the truth, flair called hart overrated because of an old rivalry they have since squashed.
Rip Scott hall, I grew up on these guys, greatest time to be a fan, kayfabe is dead now
Flair is definitely hating. Bret is by far one of the best wrestlers of all time
Razor had a good wrestling mind
Bret should of dropped the title to Scott at Royal Rumble 93
Then dropped it back to Bret again before Mania
Its a shame that Scott is gone .
Not sure what Scott was talking about with his match against Bret. I remember one, I think it was for the WWF Title in 1993, and Bret sold quite well for him.
Brett is overated?? God, Flair has some stupid opinions
Flair isn't wrong. What made Bret great?
He's right.
We never got to see him return as Razor Ramon, even when he had returned to WWE.
Heel Bret is so good. When he had the Canadian stable, he was 1000000
Bret was good, not as big a personality or figure as alot of others n it held him back imo, also seems a genuinely good person n its not always the best trait in a cut throat business, i prefered others but recognised what a pro he always was n he deserved all the accolades n titles he got, what him n sean michaels had in common is they were the 2 standout smaller guys behind all the beasts, thats probably why they ended up such bitter rivals, they were similar, imo.
Shouldve had Razor win the World title at Rumble 93 imo
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@@markoneil5013😂😂😂😂😂
Terrible move. He was not there yet.
@@ericjackson7632 Razor was at his hottest there
Shouldve had Hogan be a surprise entrant in the Rumble and win
Razor vs Hogan for the title at Wm 9 wouldve been huge, Chico
Crisp and clean.....and no caffeine....
Mic skills was not Brets best attribute. However, if you gave him something to talk about, he could go with the best of them. He had to have something real to deal with.
But his 🎤 skills was good when he turn into anti bret
He was 100% method
You can dislike Bret hart as a person and say that his mic work was so -so, but nobody who ever worked with him would claim that he was “overrated” in the ring
In the stick lol never heard it called that before, RIP Ramon legend
Scott Hall had me rolling, with his goofy antics back then.
Flair was a hater
Bret Hart
Love Scott Hall, but Razor started in the WWF in August 1992, they started an angle pretty much after he won the title in October 1992. So to say he never said hi after a year that he was their seems a little exaggerated.
Bret was no El Dandy on the mic but he could cut a solid promo.
I don't think Bret's amazing on the mic, but I also don't think he's quite as bad as Scott is making out. Bret had some really good promos when he was the pissed off heel at the end of his WWF run.
Skipping the Russo fruit... Classy
Hello
Perfect way to discribe it Brett and WCW is yeah like he didn’t fit in like the new kid at school. Even if he was an established WWf star it just it just felt weird in our way.
Funny thing, Scotty Hall was 'Da Bad Guy'. Doink beat Bret on a house show. Lex stiffed Brody in the cage in the humidity of Florida. Tempers flared and THAT'S why Bruiser no-sold, and THAT'S why Lawrence ran away. Fonzie confirmed it. Tap 'Bill Alphonso shoot'. The Nasty Boys were shooters. Doink was 'Bourne Again'. Mark Carroway was 'The Phenom'. Punk played Doink. LOD vs The Powers was the classic. Brutus trained Tommy and Davey in the art of the promo. Hogan couldn't let his ego go, but not through want of trying. Although a religious man, 'BigBad' Dan Spivey wouldn't think twice about tagging jobbers for real if they didn't comply. He'd then say a prayer for them in the back, and ask god for forgiveness. Ironically, this is how he came up with the Wailin Mercy gimmick. Yes sir. Yes indeed. Shawn didn't take to Foley at first. Mick overheard a HBK rant about him and ran out of the building. Austin blames Mero for his split lip, and subsequent stitches at KOTR96. Hogan got to the chief Yappapi Indian about using their sacred name in an entertainment setting. The chief relented only after Terry signed some shirts. Hillbilly Jim was a real hillbilly. Ted Dibiase. Six foot one. Two hundred and sixty pounds. Omaha, Nebraska. A two time all American. Raven wrote the infamous Chris Benoit promo at Starrcade 97. Chris got to Scotty backstage and asked him to write him a decent promo. Scotty inked a classic and couldn't wait to hear it. Chris forgot it when it came time, causing heat between the two men. In Canada, Jacques Rougeau was king. He even outdrew and beat Hogan clean for the title. Candido shot on Horowitz when Barry used Chris's finisher without calling it. Janetty was supposed to get the HBK gimmick. Vince nixed it because of his drug use. Steven Borden nixed the WCW push of Raven. Scotty got hot and headed back to ECW to cool of. He even tried to convince Page Falkinberg to go with him. How 'bout that, huh? In a rare bout, Piper and Virgil beat Barbarian and Haku. A 30 minute classic, the match was uploaded to TH-cam, tap 'Piper and Virgil vs Babarian and Haku'. KC's have finally released their Lex Luger compilation. It's called The Lex-Files, and Lawrence had a hand in it's inception. Double J went to Chuck about taking a Sweet Chin Music at SSeries94. The two men would practice the spot for hours, and even danced around to With My Baby Tonight. Jinder Mahal was to lead a stable of terrorists. Vince only nixed it when Linda said it was in bad faith. Bossman beat Freddy Krueger AND Leatherface in tag team action. The match took place in the far east and was billed as a 'Halloween Chamber of Horrors' match. Yes, it was. Sherri and Liz were supposed to have a program. Master Fuji was an accomplished sushi chef, and would cook for BSK. Sometimes he'd put laxatives in Rodney's food. Paul Laveck would tag jobbers for real if they wouldn't comply. Jameson and Harvey Wippleman were supposed to have a one on one match at Rumble 92. Vince nixed it at the last minute.
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Bret described his mic ability as 6.5 out of 10. In 1997 he was great in mic though.
Nope, he still sucked compared to Austin. Had he stayed, Rock would've verbally buried him on the regular
@@NoneofYabiz-rx3ziThat's like saying Craig Ehlo sucked compared to Michael Jordan. Duh. Most people will suck if you make that comparison. That tells you nothing about the individual. A 5 or 6 out of 10 is a fair assessment. Nothing great, but not bad either.