Scott Hall - Why I Didn't Trust Ric Flair in WWF
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- Scott Hall discusses his dislike for Ric Flair and why he didn't trust him at all in WWF. Stream New Shoot Interviews 📺 TitleMatchNetwork.com
RIP to the late-great Scott Hall. Here the Bad Guy talks about how "Nature Boy" Ric Flair treated him while in WCW and how he didn't trust him in the World Wrestling Federation.
Hall had just been signed by Vince McMahon and became known as Razor Ramon. Scott was a major part in the Randy Savage vs Ric Flair storyline involving Mr Perfect and Bobby Heenan.
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RIP to the late-great Scott Hall
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RIP Razor Ramon
I swear Scott Hall was just one of those rare talents. I can't think of too many guys in the business that was a heel and a baby face and the fans still love you
Mostly legends like Jake Roberts, Big Bossman, Randy Savage, Hulk Hogan, Andre the Giant, Ric Flair, Demolition, etc.
@@CatsClaw44 Demolition huh
@@jasonsmith1288 Demolition was my fave tag team bacc then. I don't remember em ever being heels. Might be wrong tho..
@@aceloco817yeah they were. Turned face when Fuji turned on them and managed powers of pain. That was warlord and barbarian I believe.
@@CatsClaw44you forgot hbk
Kurt taught razor to use the taunt button to build up your finisher
I think you mean Curt (Hennig), not to be confused with Kurt Angle.
I swear that advice from Curt Henning sure can be used today. Big move after big move and no selling.
Imagine if Curt Hennig and Bret Hart were agenting matches for AEW. Imagine how much better the match psychology would be.
@newwaveknight1 both Henning and Bret Hart were technical geniuses in the business , another one that didn't get credit was Billy Robinson who was a legit badass tough guy
I stopped watching in early 2000s. I recently caught a couple matches and it was a an acrobatic tumble fest. No rhyme or reason. It was like a video game with all special moves turned on at all times.
@DmanDice same, had gone off wrestling by 2002 ish - I just felt wrestling was dead after the attitude era - out of curiosity I'd go back now and then to see what became of it , it's even on My5 now and then but couldn't tell you who they are
@@CarlHosmer
From what I can tell, it held on for a bit with Edge, Orton, Booker and few others. Then Punk Daniel Brian and a few really tried. But It seems like the womens side is getting more praise than the mens now days. (based on social media at least)
At a bar last week I saw a match and I had no idea wtf they were doing. Every move looked like a finisher.
The camera does this weird shaky thing and zooms in and out lol.
REALLY takes you out of the context of anything being real.
I was lucky enough to see Razor wrestle live as a kid. RIP The Bad Guy. Great shoot.
I went to a live show mostly to see hall when he was doing the survey stuff but he couldn't make it so I got to see Nash do the survey instead
@@Bears86SB My experience was in Boston, age 5, at Survivor Series 1993 LOL. That opening match!!!
@@GamingManual I saw alot of the guys in 93 and 94 at house shows (I live in NE Pennsylvania.) I was 9 and 10 years old. Some of my best memories
@@madamefeast4824 East coast FTW! Those days were pure MAGIC, my friend. I remember watching PPVs at a buddy's house.
Same
Scott was criminally underrated. If not for drugs he'd probably be top 5 of his era
Still was imo. His intelligence and acumen in the ring speaks for itself.
He’s still in my top 5
@kdizzle901 mine too, he had all the attributes: he was big strong, excellent mic skills, could work, could sell and understood the business in and out.
He also wasn't selfish. He would put guys over and didn't have a problem doing it. And that could have kept him out of the world title picture. But absolutely among the best minds and best workers in the business. Too bad about the addiction.
Scott seemed like a really good dude. It was a shame he hung out with such a big douche like nash.
The stories just *blend* together. The late great Scott Hall had a gift for storytelling in and out of the ring.
Rip Scott Hall
Kurt Hennig, Macho Man
@@kingbaby8761Curt
Scott is the definition of cool as a cucumber. Wish I got to meet him before he passed rest in peace, razor.
RIP the bad guy
Ehh
You are sorely missed, Scott. RIP
*the good guy
@@MrMGR1986 the bad guy was one of his nicknames.
New guys need to take Curt Hennings advice!
Let me pull out my Ouija board to get his advice
Hennig
Curt quietly mentored a couple generations of superstars. Scott Hall, Shawn Michaels, X-Pac, Brock Lesnar are the ones I know right off hand.
Shoot wrestle Brock Lesnar on a midair plane flight over the ocean? I should take advice from that guy?
@ParticleLarry He has balls and he could go.
Bad times don't last, but Bad Guys do.
Watts was right, back in that New Generation Era, Razor was one of the most over guys if not THE most over guy in the company. RIP Scott
The Top 5 Best RF Shoots i have seen are from Scott Hall Dusty Rhodes Barry Wyndam Ric Flair Bam Bam Bigalow.. Thaks to TMW for continuing to post these Shoots!
That BamBam shoot is definitely a top notch shoot. Of course he has an ego, but not much of it shines in that shoot. He is just a regular guy telling legendary stories.
Hey YO! Idk about anyone else but I can totally listen to Scott Hall talk all day about this crazy business we call wrestling ...
these are the kinds of men who worked for vince.... THESE are the kinds of men who made that man BILLIONS and his brand globally recognized... and that dbag would go after them and their names that he owned but THEY made famous... God vincent has to be one of the luckiest men to have ever existed by having this type work force making you money
He's standing on the precipice now of seeing what a wasted life that all was. Everyone knows his true legacy, it's a monumental shame.
@@RedfishCarolina its too bad it took everyone else this long to see it... i always knew what that dbag was for a VERY long time
@@billybadass3056 It took me a while. It was really only when I realized that Vince frequently intentionally buried top stars from other companies. There were exceptions, but he almost always heavily reworked their gimmick.
Flair and LOD are the main ones that come to mind, he let them maintain their gimmick. Guys like Austin, Dusty, Luger, he wasn't going to push unless their gimmick was something new.
I'm glad Sting staid out of it mostly
Scott Hall was already that character in WCW BEFORE he went to WWF. Go watch The Diamond Studs promos, he used "The bad guy" catchphrase & threw the toothpick.
WCW should have won that lawsuit that he was actually playing THEIR character as Razor Ramon
@@ModernDayRenaissanceMan that wasn't really the point of what I said but regardless I hear you...
RIP Scott Hall but my dude was still skiing during this interview.
He sure was....
4:12 I've been searching for this story for weeks (told by somebody else), and it's so randomly in this video. Just the idea that Flair and Macho would get yelled like that, and have to redo it.
I heard the story of Flair & Savage being yelled at by Vince about that match before. Bret talked about seeing that happen too.
Guys like him and Curt and the Brain 🧠 all understood the little nuances of wrestling.
He was great-I can't believe that he's gone 😢
Razor Ramon was one of my favorite gimmicks as a child. It's so interesting listening to these guys talk about the business from their standpoint. Curt Henning gave him some great advice R.I.P.
It’s a shame he didn’t get along with Flair. Bc he put on such a GREAT program partnering with him against Savage and Perfect in the ‘92 Survivor Series. The lead up, the match…Good Stuff.
Rick held him back Rick held a lot of people back D.D.P. and God knows who else WCW mean Mark callus WWF The undertaker WCW Vinny Vegas WWF Diesel WCW the diamond stud WWF Razor Ramon WCW god only knows what they called Paul WWF HHH nobody's not even mid card in WCW hall of famers main eventing WrestleMania and every other pay per view the best of the best and let's not forget WCW stunning Steve Austin WWF stone cold Steve Austin
Flair was owed a $25K deposit and Herd wouldn't pay so Flair took the belt. Turner Broadcasting must have agreed because they refunded the deposit plus 50% interest to get the belt back.
णभढढ
Exactly. I was just bout to say that but you aptly did 🙂
That wasn’t common knowledge then though. He was so new he probably didn’t have that knowledge so I can see why he said F*** Flair lol
That doesn't mean that you take the belt to the WWF, you just hold onto it until legally they Pau your deposit.
@@CatsClaw44 It was Vince's idea to put it on air, not Flairs. Regardless, it didn't hurt WCW, if anything, it was some free advertising for them.
It's a business. Nobody should trust anybody
I really love this channel because of Scott Hall :)
Hall was awesome as razor ramon.
Hall was unreal when he was in shape and sober.
Hall was correct about flair.
Hall backwards is llaH
Hall is dead from steroids, dope and Alcohol.
Hey, Yo! 5 letters and two words that Scott said better than anyone. I believe WCW allowed Scott Hall to get comfortable with job security and good pay to where Scott got lazy but prime Scott Hall with the toothpick (throw) his entrance where he'd shuffle his arms and hands, the snake finger touch, his vicious high boot, his vicious close line, his rope shake to hype the crowd and when he'd have his opponent locked in for the razors edge and throw his arms out to get the crowd hyped before lifting 200+ pound men up with ease for the iconic razors edge. Im sure I missed some stuff but my point is Scott Hall is one of the greatest to ever step in the squared circle and wrestle. Fly high Scott
#RIPScottHall
Those are great advice from curt dam R.i.p
Scott had such a great mind. I always loved the smarter, more creative and polished guys, like Razor, Raven, guys like that
The entire aew roster needs to see this video
Yes I Fucking hate the way AEW talent work
Scott is right. It’s why so many people stopped watching wrestling. matches usually end about 10 minutes after they should have. And each person usually kicks out of about three of the finishing moves (I mean, what’s the point of even having finishing moves anymore). Then kicks out of getting slammed through a table thrown off a 20 foot ledge. And finally loses to a spear
Scott Hall woulda been a damn good Punisher from Marvel Comics.
Coolest guy I ever met….. hands down. 🤘🏻
Bret tells the same story about Macho and Flair getting reemed and having to redo the match.
He did and with Hall filling in the extra details, it makes sense why they had to redo the match.
Rip Curt Hennig! We miss you! 😢
Curt with some excellent advice
we miss you scott😢😢😢
Yet he didn’t mention when Medusa threw her WWF Womens Title in the trash on Live TV. Flair was owed money. What was Medusa’s Excuse?
Oh yea, Eric told her to.
Hall was still in wwf when she did that
@@fullweezy3553 this interview is from 2007. Way after it happened. WCW was sold in 2001, I believe. I could be a year or 2 off. But I understand your point. That he is referring to the incident it was before she did that, so yes.
Miss the point often or always?
"Hey Sasso"
“You look like a guy that could do coke and eat”. 😂😂
Scott Hall was that guy forreal a bad guy that did good guy stuff. He would put people over. His interviews seems like nothing but the truth.
Imagine where the business would be if NXT was around a decade earlier & Scott was coaching the next generation of talent.
Fans are starting to find out how much of a more Value Scott Hall was as a Wrestling Legend.
Now its the opposite.
Do as many moves as possible and have as much wasted motion as possible and blame everyone else for falling ratings
R I P SCOTT
Literally could have been the coolest high school principal on the planet.
Scott Hall the bad guy but such a good dude
2:09 - 3 seconds of about 30% in-character 'Razor' face right there.
i can listen to him talking about the buisness 24/7. such an interessting way of looking at it
Damn, he sounds just like Vince!
It's weird to see him complaining about what Flair doing to his booking in WCW when the Kliq was known for screwing guys over to help themselves. Pot calling the kettle black.
Apparently Scott doesn't understand that Rick had a significant Deposit of his own money that WCW refused to pay back. Court upheld that Rick had the right to posses the belt until WCW paid back the Deposit with Interest. Rick just couldn't show it on WWF tv because of copyright and trademark laws. I believe that Rick and Vince never had rick have the belt in front of a WWF house or TV Audience. Like Scott said, the shows weren't live, so Rick walked around with an old WWF belt and they blurred out that belt. So Scott is taking the oprotunity to Bury Rick about the Belt because as he says in this video he had HEAT with HOW FLAIR BOOKED HIM in WCW.
HEY YO
Did Ric Flair do the right thing? In my opinion, yes. He hadn't received the money he had put down for the belt, as was the custom for the NWA World title. it was a lot of money, and interest was also due. Jim Herd tried to screw him over. So, Flair did what he thought was right, and Vince told him to bring the belt to WWF, so it wasn't like he didn't realize that Flair was stabbing WCW....he handed him the knife.
Loved Scott, but his analysis here was off. The belt went from Randy back to Flair because Randy didn't pop business after the WM 8 title win. It wasn't about Flair being the standard-bearer or Vince fully getting behind Ric, or anything like that. Flair was being used as a transitional champ and Bret got it a little over a month later.
Also, as others have pointed out, Ric was screwed out of his deposit and that was why he did what he did with the WCW belt. You can say a lot of negative things about Ric, and you'd be right, but the guy did not have an issue doing jobs or doing business.
If i was leaving and was owed money not paid, I'd take the belt with me too
He says he was low on the totem pole. I wouldn't go that far. He's talking about sharing the ring with Mr. Perfect and so forth. Definitely top 5 for me, along with Perfect and Piper, of never holding the championship. (And I complained when Kane held it for a single day.)
I understand that people change but Scott Hall calling someone unprofessional is rich still RIP
Scott Hall was my favorite wrestler
Never understood how Scott got that cali surfer accent tho lol I guess it’s a mix accent of all the coolest ones cuz he travelled a lot growing up
Just answered your own question. You don't understand your own logic?
@@Strangestthing1 nope?
Second video I have seen this week mentioning how deceptively strong Shawn was. First the one where Cody says HBK picked him up off the ground in the back after Cody blew a superkick spot, and then this with Razor’s surprise at the impact of being shoved from behind by Shawn.
I loved the razor promos before he wrestled
Summerslam 1995 Diesel vs Razor Ramon vs HBK in a first ever triple threat No DQ would've been great
Wrong. Taking the belt to the WWF at the time was the greatest thing that had ever happened. It rocked the wrestling world. I still remember it today screaming at the top of my lungs. Ric Flair is in the WWF. That’s his world title that Bobby Heenan is holding.
I remember his promo when he said, "chicas are for fun" (girls are for fun). 😮😂
Apparently nobody told Scott that Herd wouldnt give Flair his deposit back on the belt.
People keep saying, "Flair was owed his deposit", well keep the belt amd go to court to get the deposit, don't take the belt to someone else's company and TV.
Then he wouldn't have gotten his deposit back. WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
'we didn't wanna screw the fans'- I mean the curtain call was the ultimate screwing of the fans...
Absolute coolest guy in the whole wrestling business. He was so damn cool.
Curt was the main reason why ddp got over he knew how to build a story
Scott picking his nose, and rolling it around between his fingers, during an interview is wild though
00:06-Yep. Exactly how a low man speaks !😂. “He’s one of the bosses, right?”
But the curtain call and showing up drunk all the time is professional right?
So… Hall says Flair was unprofessional by bringing the WCW belt, that he and Nash did the job on the way out to be professional, but he neglects to mention the Curtain Call, where he and Nash couldn’t be punished, leaving H to be the one hammered? Come on now…
HHH wasn't punished that long. He was the IC Champ 5 months later.
That's the problem with not knowing the back story about the belt and Flair. If you know the back story, everything Scott said here, he would not have said cause he is wrong. According to Scott, Flair should have given back the belt because that's what's good for business, and Flair would have been out I believe the amount is $26000.
There is no reality in which I believe Scott Hall would have given the belt back not a chance.
i've never seen footage of one person ever say Flair took food out of their mouth when he took the belt to New York. Ever.
A wealth of wrestling knowledge died the day Scott died. He has a top 5 brain for pro wrestling. In a perfect world, he should be with Shawn coaching the nxt talent.
Hall had it all. Too bad his demons kept him from getting 100% out of his talents.
Love how it starts with the slick buger pick 😊😊
Flair was a booker at that time
Thats y vince liked Bret so much . .the story was more important than the moves
I liked Scott, but him saying he did good for the fans going out in the garden. Like the curtain call was good for kayfabe, not
Scott didn't understand why Ric Flair took the NWA/ WCW World Heavyweight Title.
Flair had a deposit on the belt. Did he knew during this interview, Title Match?
At around 6:30 he says he doesn't know the backstory. So, likely he didn't know back then or at the time of the interview
@@J_Cubedhe may not have known back then but I bet he knew before this interview. He just hates Flair enough he don't want to admit it.
Is titlematch Rf ? I'm confused 😕
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I miss Scott Hall
2:27 This wisdom has been lost. All we get is move after move after fake finish now.
I understand the title, but my takeaway from this interview is still "let me tell you what I learned from Hennig"
He air mailed it back as soon as they cut the $25K and he found that it wasn't Rubber.
He agreed to drop the belt to Barry not luger , herd said no, and who was more qualified Barry or luger
Flair said they weren’t going to give him his $20k or $25k deposit back for the belt. So he went to NY with the belt. Vince got sued immediately and that’s why they had the storyline of Jack Tunney or Gorilla Monsoon saying they wouldn’t recognize the big gold belt as legitimate and would blur it from tv.
@@dr.floridamanphdit wasn't completely immediate. It took awhile before they distorted the belt.
World Championship Wings 🪽
Muh chismo
I was starting to wonder if Scott was going to eat that booger.
May Hall rest in peace, but how did he not know the reason why Flair took the belt to the WWF?
I'm sure at some point Curt told him that belt situation. He probably doesn't want to admit he knows because of how much he hate Flair.
Did he ever act like a grown up and apologize when he found out what happened? If someone owed him thousands upon thousands of dollars, I would have doubted that he would handed their stuff back without payment.
The blind leading the blind.
Ric Flair was right to take The Belt.
Now I understand why ric flair said scott is the most Overated wrestler. Flair sounds a bit hatee
funny Ric said that, him being one of the most over rated
@@solaradam7470 Rick Flair in the mid 1980s is not overrated if anything he is under appreciated. Maybe by The End of the 90s yeah he's overrated but not in the prime of his career
Never trust anyone named Ric.
Ric Ross
Ric's nickname is "the dirtiest player in the game" how does that not inspire trust ?
I love Scott hall. He was on some sugar bugger. Keeps picking his nose. Hey yo
I like Scott and Nash cause their big marks , they know it’s a fake sport it’s a act , their not real athletes, yeah their athletic but it’s not a sport their more like actors and Nash and hall knew it was a buisness not like hit man or Goldberg I just wanta win a fake belt and be a fake champion of a fake sport , in the words of Kevin Nash it ain’t like you’re throwing a fckn curveball out there