I test drove a Tesla M3 Highland RWD yesterday and was very impressed. So much quieter and smoother than my test in an older M3 or MY. Lack of stalks actually made sense in the Tesla and waseasy to adapt to.
I notice no improvement against my 2023 Model Y (HW 3.x). If it rains or the cameras are wet, I can barely do anything. On my old Audi with ultrasound sensors, I can park blind and raining that it works fine. For such advanced cars it is a miss not to have ultrasound sensors.
Totally agree. Have been watching these guys for years ref many electric cars and it’s all great, love especially the Tesla stuff as am a bit of a Tesla fanboy…….esp after driving them for work across the country. Not driven this latest one though
Agree, should have many more, keep going and it will get there. I consume quite a lot of related content and this is well established in my top 3, the 'real world' channel for me
I really wish someone would test Tesla vision at night, particularly when it's raining - this is where i expect it will fail miserably under these various tests.
Someone tested it in pitch black (headlights off), and the results were remarkable. While the accuracy went down, the car still would not let the user hit anything as it was just being over cautious. Seems like Tesla vision cameras shift into infrared, so they are able to maintain proper performance even in zero visibility conditions. Otherwise, they do have coating and anti-reflection films to avoid water or snow sticking to them or reflection/flares from confusing them.
@@achilles-live Rubbish - my 2022 M3P can see hardly anything out of the rear view camera if it's been raining, it's just a blurry mess. If my car wasn't one of the last that was fitted with USS then it would never make anything out on tesla vision when it came to the rear camera in wet dark conditions.
@@blower1 A new technology is always worse at the beginning than the mature old technology. But you can see the progress. If you compare it with the USS that was used after 2-3 years of development, then Vision would be much better. It is also logical why the USS was removed, because it is assumed that a person drives based on what they see. As a human, you can't see directly in front of the hood, but almost everyone can park without really seeing what is in front of them. In the long term, Tesla Vision is far superior to ultrasonic sensors. I bet the cm specifications will come soon.
The biggest problem with Tesla vision is consistency, sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't with exactly same conditions. Also you're testing in perfect lighting conditions for cameras, it works significantly worse when it is darker
It works fine in the dark and rain even when it reports parking assistance reduced due to dirty cameras. I park close to my house wall at night. Not hit it yet.
@@MikeDWinter Intermittently. The problem for the AI when there are multiple types of sensors is how does it reconcile different signals from the different types of sensors? One says 10 inches and the other says 16 inches. Erm, which do I display on screen? One says there's something just behind me and the other says not. Erm... E.g. wire mesh fence, often missed by USS but seen clearly by camera but if seen by both differently, which does it take as "true"? That's what the Tesla engineers said was the reason why they decided to go with one type of sensor and optimise it to the max. We're only part way there yet.
Great video, good to see a few more parking tests! I found same thing any smaller objects it couldn’t spot it, even a few charging poles etc, which is a shame as it’s usually those things you don’t notice and cause a bit of damage!
Great video. May I suggest to make a comparison with some other competitor car? I would argue that okay-ish cannot be considered a good result in 2024 for a such basic parking aid. At least in my view.
Thanks Richard. This is a very good and a thorough test to evaluate Vision Park Assist. Howver, it is a little bit inconsistent. Only issue is not able see the obstacles in front of the front bumper. Hopefully next upgrade would improve on that. Please do another video when this comes. Please comment.
As a Mercedes driver I cannot see that Tesla Vision in anyway matches the 360 camera and parking sensor combination. The EQE SUV has better graphics than the EQC so has thé see through bonnet function as well. I prefer to have the actual 360 deg camera system which incl side cameras so you can see the kerbs. Tesla vision looks overly complicated why turn everything into graphics when you have the actual image for high res cameras. The Mercedes system is ok dark too as it is highly sensitive so can give an image in very low light. Great video and the channels content is excellent for the balanced approach you take. More comparisons of Tesla v competitors products would be useful too.
They don't have enough cameras/in the right places for a view all the way round the cameras though, that's why it has to be more complicated to produce this. There's no camera directly on the front of the car (only at the top of the windscreen, so the bonnet obscures things for some distance) and no camera covering the area around the front wheels from the side either, as the middle pillar cameras do face mostly forwards but are still angled slightly outwards (so the disappearing area next to the kerb at 15:15 probably has something to do with that, although it still seems odd)
Thanks for the video. I was about to let someone takeover my 2024 MY to downgrade to HW3 because I thought I would save money. Dang....HW4 is a game changer as I am obsessed with the perfect parking.
I've got a '21 Model Y with sensors and in the first week of ownership I dinged my front cowl by hitting a rock used to mark a parking spot. I was approaching it thinking that my sensors would pick it up any second but it was a hard lesson to learn. (I've since had it repaired by a mobile body shop company that came right to my house! Great that this type of repair can be done very well and cost/time effectively)
I agree my 2023 Model Y on the last update the parking assist works well! I almost bought a 2022 new Model Y with USS sensors that that might have been a mistake, happy with my current car!
Thats exactly the problem, because the software actually performs quite good in 95% of all cases, it is then even more surprising that in rare cases it fails even the easiest tasks. We had a couple of people now that claimed that the software works awesome only to find themselves hitting a sign or scraping the wall. So I wish you good luck in the near future. I would advise ALL Vision driver to be careful and to not trust the software completely because it is going to fail sooner than later. And if you want proof that the software is not ready yet just check if you can park it automatically yet. You can't because Tesla even admits it that Vision is just not good enough yet. Also a reason why they removed the cm/in-indication. Makes ist much harder to compare ;)
What is it like at night time? Maybe in the rain too. I can't believe it is as good as ultrasonic sensors and 360 view. Maybe a test is needed. Low bollards will be it's nemesis. Already a couple of posts on FB groups with prangs.
@@XKS99 I use my non-Tesla 360 cameras and parking sensors daily. YES, it is still nothing like being able to actually see what you are doing. I am waiting for Tesla to wise up and put that front camera on the car and add the sensors back.
Thank you, Richard, for the factual and honest review. I'm waiting for my 2024 M3 and have been driving a hired polestar 2 (300kW version) for the last month. In comparison to the 360° view in the polestar, I like how tesla vision renders the proportions accurately and is able to distinguish between objects such as persons, cars or inanimate objects - which the 360° vision doesn't.
@@hackbrettschorsch6855 Well, I'd rather have a beta version of a superior product, than a final version of an inferior product. Other carmakers usually start OK, but never get better. Tesla also starts OK, but with updates gets massive additions beyond what was expected beforehand or missing on delivery. We've seen the evidence multiple times now in the last 10 years, starting from Model S AP2 vs AP1, and including my own Model 3 2019, which does much more now than was advertised or expected on delivery.
@@hackbrettschorsch6855 Correct. They sell you the "finished" technology from 5 years ago and any bugs in it are stuck in it from when you drive off the forecourt unless you go back (usually several times) for a software fix. It's a release product that has improved significantly and will continue to do so.
Excellent review, as always. It was nice meeting you a few weeks back at Grantham supercharger. Thanks for the tips and the picture, sent it to my mates. 😂
At 11:16 it would be interesting to know whether the hose reel was still visible on the camera when you got really close to it and it disappeared from Tesla Vision (you didn't show the view from the cameras either time) Also the leftover bin visualisation seems to be coming from the old visualisation system rather than the Occupancy Network (as it's an actual 3D model of a bin, and that system does have a habit of remembering things that have been moved away, as well as placing things in the wrong position in space, which seems to be much less of an issue with the new Occupancy Network-based system) And same with the person in the next bit as well (again you can see it's a 3D model of a person), for some reason they're not being detected/shown by the Occupancy Network/Tesla Vision/High-Fidelity Park Assist (whichever you want to call it) which would be why there's no "parking sensor" type warning when you get close, but when you properly drive at them, the existing Automatic Emergency Braking system kicks in based on its (older) way of recognising pedestrians in your path Oh interesting that the HW3 car (without USS) actually did pick the person up via Occupancy Network as well as the old system (which you can tell because there's also a "blob" on top of the 3D model person, and then of course the coloured warnings etc)
Great video which answered a lot of questions. I do wonder about how the system works with dirty camera and, of course, nighttime. I do like the distance measurement to obstacles that you get, which count down nicely as you approach them. I just might miss that.
Awesome video and really looking forward to getting my new Highland in a few weeks and after seeing your video I am feeling much better about having no parking sensors lkie I had on my 2022 model. I think the new vision graphics rally helps with the parking especially driving forward into car parks between lines as you can now see the lines and the visual of cars next to you. Thanks for your vey informative video 😀
Thank you for this awesome video, very informative!😀👍 We are taking delivery of a m3 24 standard range in 2-6 weeks!?🤗😍😀👍 So this video iis very helpfull!!. You are the only one I have seen doing this so methodically, covering everything!😀👍 We have a Nissan Leaf, 24 kwh, from 2012, bought it 2017, now it has 213000 km on the odometer, so it can only drive 100 km in vinter, and 130 km in summer time, so it is time to have a second car, we still love our Nissan Leaf 🥰, but my husband need more range for work! I will be using the Nissan Leaf, cause I dont need so much range as he does 😀. Love your work, keep up the good work 😀👍 Thanks from Denmark 🇩🇰
I wonder how Tesla vision would cope with the self parking parallel parking in particular, feature. Is that still available and if so would it work better than the pretty awful results previously?
Thank you for doing this work so we don't have to... I really thought the airbag would go off that one time you charged at your mate and the car hit the brakes :)
Can't argue it certainly appears to be a big improvement on the first iteration of it but is it trying to solve a problem that once again wasn't there in the first place. USS have proved themselves to be an effective parking "aid" over the years and as someone else on here eluded to what happens when the cameras are dirty or blinded at night or even during the day? As it is the cameras often ping up messages stating they cant see and Tesla have yet to come up with a solution to keeping the cameras clear (other than a selective wipe with a finger). All three cars were pretty much equal in the test but given just the reliance of cameras I personally would still trust the car with the USS and camera support more than I would trust the cars with Tesla Vision cameras only. Good effort but still room for improvement I would say. Great videos though and thanks for sharing as always :-)
This week’s issue of Autocar magazine has a full Road Test of the M3 LR. They appear to have been a bit disappointed. Summed up by their cover quote: “Better, but not the best”. They were somewhat critical of the ride and not over enamoured by the tech. I guess though that the demographic of their readership is older (ex?) petrolheads who are drawn to more conventional sporty cars like the BMW i4. Strangely they complained more about not having a wiper stalk than stalks for indicators and drive selection.
Had a model Y for about a year now. Having no USS is not an issue 99% of the time. If I were to level a criticism, it would be the lack of front USS allied with a poor turning circle in general means that turning forward 90⁰ into, say, a tight supermarket parking space leaves the front corners at risk. Hasn't been a problem for me but the wife gets nervous in such situations.
Great video 👍 will you be able to compare the same test with some brand car that has latest camera/parking sensors and compare. I have Mercedes with camera parking sensors with adas and it didn't stop for 4 feet cardboard box 😢....so though people criticise about tesla removing parking sensors but does it help much outside tesla cars will be point to note...
Best video I've seen so far on this controversial topic. You tested every combination imaginable with all the different hardware setups. Thanks for answering my questions about this, as I've always thought this is just another cost-cutting measure by Tesla (after the passenger lumbar) and hold on purchasing a Model Y as my first EV, coming from an ICE vehicle with 360° camera + all the sensors + LUMBAR on passenger.
Thanks Richard, I hope you pay your team Danger Money! I was very unsure about Tesla Vision when I purchased my 2023 model Y SR, with your previous videos confirming my nervousness but with the latest software update things have improved and will continue to improve, Keep up the content.
I do like the park assist but my gripe is the downgrading in the features since the ultrasonic sensor removal. I paid for EAP when I got my 2023 Model 3 and thought that there would be a fix to enable summon, smart summon and auto park. As yet nothing and I just contacted customer service and got a stock reply of tough luck keep waiting. It’s a shame as I love driving the car for so many reasons and I would 100% buy another Tesla in the future but I just feel like they need to be more clear about the EAP features when selling to newbies like I was!
We often learn the hard way. I think it’s wrong that they sell EAP when several important features are simply not available. Ryan Shaw’s Tesla channel say to never buy a Tesla for a promised feature, only buy for features it currently has.
@@BobbieGWhiz yeah it’s a good point. I had heard that before and was dead set on avoiding the FSD for that reason but didn’t think through the EAP properly. I do a lot of motorway driving so I do love the auto lane change. Not sure if it’s worth the extra money but it’s close!
Can already tell this will be a nightmare to park with when I get mine. Here in Portugal it's very common to have to either park on very short parallel parking spaces, or in spaces where there are obstacles that only the front sensors would pick up because they're below your eye sight. Also heard that the turning radius is not the greatest, which will make it even more interesting...
I'm not sure if it was just a function of the hose reel being too short, I'd like to see if it detects bollards around the standard 4' height or not :)@@OsUltraBug
@@Hammertime86 I agree. Would be interesting to see tests on more common small objects in the road. But I guess for my case I would have to watch an European review as from my experience, there are a lot of more uncommonly shaped and frequent obstacles while parking over here.
Not sure if you have covered this but does Tesla vision on the new Highland Model 3 show rear cross traffic? Will the new blind spot monitoring just added alert you to rear cross traffic?
The scenario in which I need the car to detect people very close to the car and it happens quite often is when I'm in a large parking lot at a large commercial center and people walk by the cars to the their car - so I start the engine and for a second a I look away from the window to find something or talk to someone besides me and then someone suddenly walks in front of the car just when I'm about to hit the acceleration. I'm glad my parking sensors warn me that someone is in front of the car. Even more so when the shopping cart gets in front of the car and so the person pushing it is even more into my peripheral view.
Agreed they are such a pain. My 2014 leaf was better. The manual work arounds are just a fudge for a poor automatic setup. Come on Telsa sort with an update!!!!!
Yep, I guess the reason cars with USS don't get the High-Fidelity Park Assist view yet is because of all the complaints they'd get from people losing their USS, but it seems like it should be pretty easy technically to combine the two - the new system still seems to be using the same underlying graphics rendering system in the car, so they'd just need to allow the new view *without* removing the existing distance lines that cars with USS display (it probably would take some extra work to make the lines still show when the view is rotated in 3D by hand, but for the default top-down view it should be easy, as that's basically the same as the existing USS view, so no big deal if the lines just disappear if the view is rotated)
Great video! It will work fine with clean cameras in daylight. Please try the same so the car says “degraded camera performance” or similar. It’s rubbish when covered in dirt and salt on nordic roads. Maybe use a piece of tape to simulate this?
I have been using it with my M3 at night and in the rain (in the UK so lots of rain) to reverse onto my drive. It works well for me even when the frequent "camera is degraded warning comes up" and I've got a blurred rear camera from driving through the rain for an hour. I live in the countryside so its mostly pitch black except for light coming from the windows in my house and neighbours houses, through curtains. Overall I've been impressed. I have another petrol car that just has audible parking sensors and rudimentary graphic display (but with larger mirrors and better visibility all round) and I find the Tesla the easiest to park at night regardless of the weather.
@@1bongofurymine worked fine in the UK as well. It can cope with rain. But when your lenses are smudged over with road salt which we have in the nordics, dry salt being the worst, it is very different. The issue being the side and rear cameras. The front has wipers.
Quite a big improvement which I honestly didn't expect. I think it is "usable" now but I would still prefer sensors. For me there is still a trust issue because as your video shows in some scenarios it just fails. Parking sensors perform more consistent. In addition the measurements were brilliant. Will you also test the new high beam feature? I'm very curious for that.
Kudos, Richard, great video! Do you think you could do a similar quick test at dusk and at night? Quite often the chargers are impossible to see at night (in Ireland). I got Polestar 2 once hit the brakes before I almost reversed into one and I'm wondering how would Tesla Vision do in that case. Also, does it estimate distances in underground garages with plain surfaces, grey walls and grey concrete?
I will begrudgingly admit that it’s improved to the point of a black and white version of grand theft auto circa 1997 on the ps1 with wobbly graphics. It’s now usable. Is it better than a full colour video 360 feed with USS (a good implementation, ie Mercedes, Audi, BMW etc)? Nope, nowhere close. There’s also a fair bit of latency as the camera feeds the processor and then it has to guess in what things are causing some things to disappear or pop in. The fact it doesn’t show proximity to a person or warn you is worrying as this is not just a tech demo, it’s a safety system to stop you driving into hosereels, non descript walls or even small children. Sometimes isn’t good enough.
I would argue that most 360 vision stuff is highly unreliable and inferior to this. Generally they tend to be a gimmick, but there are some implementations that are a bit better than the average. In short, for simple scenarios they are comparable, but for more advanced scenarios such as parking between pillars and such, the vision generally does a better now. Having used this version for a while now, there is no way I would substitute it for a 360 alternative. The previous version of Tesla's vision solution though was not up to snuff, I'm glad they finally addressed that.
Well done Tesla! Many of us were initially annoyed when the Ultra Sonic Sensors were removed, and the Tesla Vision park assist was lacking, but it's reassuring to see how practical it has become now, especially knowing that it will only get better.
It’s exactly the same. The cameras can see a lot even in the dark. We have tried it before on a Model Y in the warehouse and it worked absolutely fine.
Why Tesla just didn't add a front camera and a camera under each wing mirror on this new version still baffles me. That would have given a proper 360 surround view in full colour which is far better. Its a super helpful system and works well for things like drive-thrus and parallel parking where you can see exactly where the kerbs are so you don't scuff your wheels :) Tesla still can't get the basics right and are trying to fix a problem that didn't exist. That rear camera gets filthy in Winter after a few hundred yards and of course, they ommited a camera washer which many other makes have. To me, a proper, modern 360 camera is like a top end ipad with its sharp and detailed screen. This Tesla vision is like one of those cheap kids 'my first tablet' devices which seem generations out of date, and in mono colour with bad graphics.
I agree that a proper 360 surround view would be great, but from what I've heard, it's at least partly because Nissan has a patent on that system so Tesla would have to pay licensing fees etc, which they don't like doing (and is apparently what other manufacturers with 360 camera systems do, pay Nissan for the license). I'm glad that Tesla are now at least trying to do something to approximate it rather than not bothering at all though!
12:45 This is not good. What if that hose reel was a rock, baby or pet that moved into the path of the vehicle? I'm amazed how little Tesla have invested in a total awareness sensor set. It's no good relying on the driver to spot things if FSD is supposed to eliminate the driver and/or steering wheel! (I have a Model Y LR, which i love.)
OK so that was excellent. Great, real world testing and a superb result for Tesla Vision. Just as good - and perhaps superior - to parking sensors. Thanks Richard and Ginz - brilliant testing/content, very practical and helpful for decision making. LOVE the old Model 3, ADORE this new 3Fresh - buying one! Cheers!
Another good informative video. Bit odd watching a 23+ min vid "parking camera/sensor" test which ANY car over the past 20 years would pass without an issue. The graphical illustrations on the central screen are "cool" but pretty pointless (taking your eyes of the road yet again to look at the screen). Can it pick out low lying obstructions in pitch black poorly lit car parks? I have come a cropper hitting low kerbs and even planks of wood in the past in such situations. That's when park sensors come in handy.
@@EdwardMillen I think the best ones do as they are already mounted low on a car bumper/fender already. Would like to see how these high mounted Tesla vision camera cope when it is dark and rainy/snowy.
@@markymarkreviews oh ok, other cars I've driven didn't, and Teslas with USS definitely don't, so this new system is an improvement over that for kerbs etc. I've found that the Tesla cameras generally cope surprisingly well when it's dark or rainy, road markings etc actually seem to be more visible by looking at the cameras (and to the Autopilot system) than they are by looking directly out of the windows. But yeah, if it's completely pitch-black kinda dark, sensors might still be better!
Bit off topic but could you give your opinion on the seat bottoms? I did a overnight demo drive and found that it hurt my tailbone. I'm coming from a 2022 Model 3. Also does the stitching on the steering wheel annoy you as much as it did for me?
I am waiting for my ultra red M3 long range 2024 model. First thing I'm gonna do is a tacho build in and the front bumper camera as well. So I always see if there is something low in front of my car.
@@SDK2006bnot really. It had some improvements maybe but it’s basically still version one. There will be a bigger step when a next version is out. Confirmed by Tesla technician that is working on it and it’s only been available since December so barely 2,5 months
I have a model 3 rwd standard range of or over 4 year's now. ( Nothing has ever gone wrong. Battery still charged to 100%. I get about 200 miles range( mainly motorway). I don't compromise when driving. I could get 250 if ultra gentle . Passes for NCT test last week. Not one fault, even the tires on the front which where never changed ( new rears last September ) are okay and the brakes no wear at all because of the regeneration breaking... MY OPINION THE TESLA MODEL 3 IS PROBABLY THE BEST VALUE NEW CAR ON THE MARKET I LOVE DRIVING IT. I WOULD THOROUGHLY RECOMMEND IT TO ANYBODY.. ( I TEST DROVE THE NEW ONE IT'S A LOT SMOOTHER AND QUIETER BUT NOT AS FAST . MY ORIGINAL SILVER WINDOW FRAME CALIFORNIA MADE MODEL 3 .BOUGHT HERE IN IRELAND IS STUPID QUICK UP TO 100KM.. ( I think I'd missed that in the new one but it's ever so slightly slower.. and in the real world coming from most cars you'd be blown away by how quick it is Test drive and you will probably buy one. If you'r 😊in the market?
They need to have the camera to have a memory of objects and gradually increase the accuracy. The instant ‘memory loss’ is working against its efficiency
I wonder how well Tesla Vision works in direct sunlight with camera off-line because its being oversaturated by bright light, or in heavy rain when the camera lens is obscured by water droplets. In Winter, my Model Y door pillar cameras are regular wiped out by direct sunlight, and motorway self-drive goes off-line, especially as the sun is at low elevation at higher latitudes, as in the UK. And try reversing your Tesla on to your drive immediately after driving along a wet road, if you haven't got out of the car and wiped the rear camera lens first. Cameras operating in the normal visual spectrum are clearly an important self-driving component, but they are not very good when visibility is poor e.g. wet weather, or there is bright sunlight in their field of view. Tesla's are great cars, but it does make me nervous when I am sitting at traffic lights and I am looking at my Model Y's cars view of what surrounds it, and a car immediately next to it in an adjacent lane suddenly disappears from my Model Y's view of the world, but it's still there in reality, other than it moved into a virtual blind spot between a couple of my Model Y's cameras. I think it is short sighted to limit the array of sensors available to a car for full self-driving operation, and for this reason I think Telsa's full self-driving capability will never get out of beta, other than achieve some manufacturing cost savings. For a reliable all-weather full self-driving operation, you need to augment cameras with automatic lens cleaning and adjustable apertures / bright light level control mechanism (low light operation is generally good on my Tesla), plus lidar, radar, infra-red vision, and possibly ultrasonics, and off course great AI (including powerful GPUs / NPUs) to build a real-time 360 3D 'field of view' of the space surrounding the car.
The problem for me is salt and water that make the rear view camera useless. In the dark is getting worst. Same if someone is parking in front of you when the car is parked and you should drive off.
Great video, Richard. Excellent production values. Thanks for helping to reassure potential buyers of the constant improvement in the software, issued as free over-the-air updates to all Tesla owners while they sleep. Competitors' software is currently typically locked to the version installed as the car rolls off the forecourt, bugs and all. THIS is what all (surviving) car brands will be doing in a few years' time. Dragged into the 21st century by Tesla. Could you add a link to your previous video last year where you did the same tests on (mostly) the same cars but with an earlier version of the software, showing just how much it has improved while still using the same camera hardware?
i dont like how the new model reverse camera is a mirror image I.E yellow paint lines in car park were on the left side but in reality was on your right, and reg numbers of other cars mirrored etc, the older model when you showed rear cameras was the right way round, not sure what i mean? put old and new in same spot and look at rear camera
Awesome Video. But the same test in the dark would be great
And in different weather
And with a dirty back camera
The irony is that this video shows that an ideal system would combine both TeslaVision AND parking sensors!
I test drove a Tesla M3 Highland RWD yesterday and was very impressed. So much quieter and smoother than my test in an older M3 or MY. Lack of stalks actually made sense in the Tesla and waseasy to adapt to.
No stalks, will never make sense. It's a cost-cutting choice from Tesla - not because "it makes sense".
Stop drinking the Tesla kool-aid.
Can’t wait to see the refreshed Model Y coming out this year.
@@ev.c6 wont come out this year. maybe next.
I notice no improvement against my 2023 Model Y (HW 3.x). If it rains or the cameras are wet, I can barely do anything. On my old Audi with ultrasound sensors, I can park blind and raining that it works fine. For such advanced cars it is a miss not to have ultrasound sensors.
Lack of stalks is undriveable. I'd love to see how you control the car and hold the wheel.
some of the best content for Tesla's on YT. you should have more subs imo. good work guys!
Wow, thanks!
Totally agree. Have been watching these guys for years ref many electric cars and it’s all great, love especially the Tesla stuff as am a bit of a Tesla fanboy…….esp after driving them for work across the country. Not driven this latest one though
Agree, should have many more, keep going and it will get there. I consume quite a lot of related content and this is well established in my top 3, the 'real world' channel for me
I really wish someone would test Tesla vision at night, particularly when it's raining - this is where i expect it will fail miserably under these various tests.
Someone tested it in pitch black (headlights off), and the results were remarkable. While the accuracy went down, the car still would not let the user hit anything as it was just being over cautious. Seems like Tesla vision cameras shift into infrared, so they are able to maintain proper performance even in zero visibility conditions. Otherwise, they do have coating and anti-reflection films to avoid water or snow sticking to them or reflection/flares from confusing them.
@@achilles-live Rubbish - my 2022 M3P can see hardly anything out of the rear view camera if it's been raining, it's just a blurry mess. If my car wasn't one of the last that was fitted with USS then it would never make anything out on tesla vision when it came to the rear camera in wet dark conditions.
@@blower1 A new technology is always worse at the beginning than the mature old technology. But you can see the progress. If you compare it with the USS that was used after 2-3 years of development, then Vision would be much better.
It is also logical why the USS was removed, because it is assumed that a person drives based on what they see. As a human, you can't see directly in front of the hood, but almost everyone can park without really seeing what is in front of them. In the long term, Tesla Vision is far superior to ultrasonic sensors. I bet the cm specifications will come soon.
@@blower1 Also 2022 M3s have the old hardware. That could be the reason why, also I never have any issues with my 2022
The biggest problem with Tesla vision is consistency, sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't with exactly same conditions. Also you're testing in perfect lighting conditions for cameras, it works significantly worse when it is darker
Interesting to know how good it is in the dark
Or rain. These tests are basically in ideal conditions - not bright sunshine, not dark, not raining etc.
Clearly shows the best system would be a combination of both vision and uss. Smaller items hidden from cameras are still seen by the uss.
It works fine in the dark and rain even when it reports parking assistance reduced due to dirty cameras. I park close to my house wall at night. Not hit it yet.
@@MikeDWinter Intermittently. The problem for the AI when there are multiple types of sensors is how does it reconcile different signals from the different types of sensors? One says 10 inches and the other says 16 inches. Erm, which do I display on screen? One says there's something just behind me and the other says not. Erm... E.g. wire mesh fence, often missed by USS but seen clearly by camera but if seen by both differently, which does it take as "true"? That's what the Tesla engineers said was the reason why they decided to go with one type of sensor and optimise it to the max. We're only part way there yet.
Great video, good to see a few more parking tests! I found same thing any smaller objects it couldn’t spot it, even a few charging poles etc, which is a shame as it’s usually those things you don’t notice and cause a bit of damage!
Great video. May I suggest to make a comparison with some other competitor car? I would argue that okay-ish cannot be considered a good result in 2024 for a such basic parking aid. At least in my view.
Not perfect, but certainly useful, especially the visualisation of the curb when parallel parking. Thanks Richard.
Thanks Richard. This is a very good and a thorough test to evaluate Vision Park Assist. Howver, it is a little bit inconsistent. Only issue is not able see the obstacles in front of the front bumper. Hopefully next upgrade would improve on that. Please do another video when this comes. Please comment.
As a Mercedes driver I cannot see that Tesla Vision in anyway matches the 360 camera and parking sensor combination. The EQE SUV has better graphics than the EQC so has thé see through bonnet function as well. I prefer to have the actual 360 deg camera system which incl side cameras so you can see the kerbs. Tesla vision looks overly complicated why turn everything into graphics when you have the actual image for high res cameras. The Mercedes system is ok dark too as it is highly sensitive so can give an image in very low light. Great video and the channels content is excellent for the balanced approach you take. More comparisons of Tesla v competitors products would be useful too.
The logic is to achieve universal mapping of the space around you. Which is critical for getting to full self driving one day.
the problem with 360 cameras is that the images are stitched together which works awful in my experience
Someone has a patent which Tesla don't want to pay to use
Bit of a price difference between those cars and teslas model 3
They don't have enough cameras/in the right places for a view all the way round the cameras though, that's why it has to be more complicated to produce this. There's no camera directly on the front of the car (only at the top of the windscreen, so the bonnet obscures things for some distance) and no camera covering the area around the front wheels from the side either, as the middle pillar cameras do face mostly forwards but are still angled slightly outwards (so the disappearing area next to the kerb at 15:15 probably has something to do with that, although it still seems odd)
Thanks for the video. I was about to let someone takeover my 2024 MY to downgrade to HW3 because I thought I would save money. Dang....HW4 is a game changer as I am obsessed with the perfect parking.
I've got a '21 Model Y with sensors and in the first week of ownership I dinged my front cowl by hitting a rock used to mark a parking spot. I was approaching it thinking that my sensors would pick it up any second but it was a hard lesson to learn. (I've since had it repaired by a mobile body shop company that came right to my house! Great that this type of repair can be done very well and cost/time effectively)
Yes people forget USS are not perfect especially for curbs etc
I wonder how well it handles low light scenarios
I agree my 2023 Model Y on the last update the parking assist works well! I almost bought a 2022 new Model Y with USS sensors that that might have been a mistake, happy with my current car!
Thats exactly the problem, because the software actually performs quite good in 95% of all cases, it is then even more surprising that in rare cases it fails even the easiest tasks. We had a couple of people now that claimed that the software works awesome only to find themselves hitting a sign or scraping the wall. So I wish you good luck in the near future. I would advise ALL Vision driver to be careful and to not trust the software completely because it is going to fail sooner than later.
And if you want proof that the software is not ready yet just check if you can park it automatically yet. You can't because Tesla even admits it that Vision is just not good enough yet. Also a reason why they removed the cm/in-indication. Makes ist much harder to compare ;)
would like to see how the parking is like at night, in the rain etc
No problems actually. I can't see anything but the cars handles it.
What is it like at night time? Maybe in the rain too.
I can't believe it is as good as ultrasonic sensors and 360 view.
Maybe a test is needed.
Low bollards will be it's nemesis. Already a couple of posts on FB groups with prangs.
Pretty much useless. I never use it when parking as I don’t trust it one bit.
This is the worst it will be. Newer versions will be better.
We've still got mirrors!
Oh well done, you've jinxed it now 🙄🤭
Mirrors will be deleted when you get fitted with the neural link option....
Great work showing the evolution, with all the pros and cons, much appreciated 👍👏👏
Thanks for the video. The lack of 360 cameras and parking sensors is a big disadvantage.
Is it though? Seems like the AI is getting pretty good.
@@XKS99 I use my non-Tesla 360 cameras and parking sensors daily. YES, it is still nothing like being able to actually see what you are doing. I am waiting for Tesla to wise up and put that front camera on the car and add the sensors back.
Learn to drive 😂
I hate 360 cameras and distortion just can't get used to it 🤷♂️
Cameras on my MG are very poor quality and the screen so small so the 3D view is very bad. Tesla for the win!
Really great video Richard and Gints🥇👌Loved the comparison with hardware 3 too. Best regards Martin
Thank you, Richard, for the factual and honest review. I'm waiting for my 2024 M3 and have been driving a hired polestar 2 (300kW version) for the last month. In comparison to the 360° view in the polestar, I like how tesla vision renders the proportions accurately and is able to distinguish between objects such as persons, cars or inanimate objects - which the 360° vision doesn't.
They will keep getting better cheers guys
Awesome. Other carmakers dont sell you a Beta product.
@@hackbrettschorsch6855 Well, I'd rather have a beta version of a superior product, than a final version of an inferior product. Other carmakers usually start OK, but never get better. Tesla also starts OK, but with updates gets massive additions beyond what was expected beforehand or missing on delivery. We've seen the evidence multiple times now in the last 10 years, starting from Model S AP2 vs AP1, and including my own Model 3 2019, which does much more now than was advertised or expected on delivery.
@@hackbrettschorsch6855 Correct. They sell you the "finished" technology from 5 years ago and any bugs in it are stuck in it from when you drive off the forecourt unless you go back (usually several times) for a software fix.
It's a release product that has improved significantly and will continue to do so.
If I had the money I’d still buy the Model 3 hands down,great video , cheers guys 👍💪😉
this video was exactly what I needed.. made me more confident to buy the highland.. thanx a lot!! heroes of the day
Excellent review, as always. It was nice meeting you a few weeks back at Grantham supercharger. Thanks for the tips and the picture, sent it to my mates. 😂
You need to test this in more challenging weather conditions (snow, dirt etc).
At 11:16 it would be interesting to know whether the hose reel was still visible on the camera when you got really close to it and it disappeared from Tesla Vision (you didn't show the view from the cameras either time)
Also the leftover bin visualisation seems to be coming from the old visualisation system rather than the Occupancy Network (as it's an actual 3D model of a bin, and that system does have a habit of remembering things that have been moved away, as well as placing things in the wrong position in space, which seems to be much less of an issue with the new Occupancy Network-based system)
And same with the person in the next bit as well (again you can see it's a 3D model of a person), for some reason they're not being detected/shown by the Occupancy Network/Tesla Vision/High-Fidelity Park Assist (whichever you want to call it) which would be why there's no "parking sensor" type warning when you get close, but when you properly drive at them, the existing Automatic Emergency Braking system kicks in based on its (older) way of recognising pedestrians in your path
Oh interesting that the HW3 car (without USS) actually did pick the person up via Occupancy Network as well as the old system (which you can tell because there's also a "blob" on top of the 3D model person, and then of course the coloured warnings etc)
Great video which answered a lot of questions. I do wonder about how the system works with dirty camera and, of course, nighttime. I do like the distance measurement to obstacles that you get, which count down nicely as you approach them. I just might miss that.
It’s not working end of the story with a dirty camera. I live in Canada and ALL winter with the snow and dirty roads it’s unusable.
Awesome video and really looking forward to getting my new Highland in a few weeks and after seeing your video I am feeling much better about having no parking sensors lkie I had on my 2022 model. I think the new vision graphics rally helps with the parking especially driving forward into car parks between lines as you can now see the lines and the visual of cars next to you. Thanks for your vey informative video 😀
Thank you, Richard. You make the best Tesla videos!
Thank you for this awesome video, very informative!😀👍
We are taking delivery of a m3 24 standard range in 2-6 weeks!?🤗😍😀👍
So this video iis very helpfull!!.
You are the only one I have seen doing this so methodically, covering everything!😀👍
We have a Nissan Leaf, 24 kwh, from 2012, bought it 2017, now it has 213000 km on the odometer, so it can only drive 100 km in vinter, and 130 km in summer time, so it is time to have a second car, we still love our Nissan Leaf 🥰, but my husband need more range for work!
I will be using the Nissan Leaf, cause I dont need so much range as he does 😀.
Love your work, keep up the good work 😀👍
Thanks from Denmark 🇩🇰
it’s so impressive i wish my 2021 model would have it
I drove both. Believe me, you do not want it.
I wonder how Tesla vision would cope with the self parking parallel parking in particular, feature. Is that still available and if so would it work better than the pretty awful results previously?
April 1st came early! Interesting overview.
Thank you for doing this work so we don't have to... I really thought the airbag would go off that one time you charged at your mate and the car hit the brakes :)
Can't argue it certainly appears to be a big improvement on the first iteration of it but is it trying to solve a problem that once again wasn't there in the
first place. USS have proved themselves to be an effective parking "aid" over the years and as someone else on here eluded to what happens when the cameras are dirty or blinded at night or even during the day? As it is the cameras often ping up messages stating they cant see and Tesla have yet to come up with a solution to keeping the cameras clear (other than a selective wipe with a finger). All three cars were pretty much equal in the test but given just the reliance of cameras I personally would still trust the car with the USS and camera support more than I would trust the cars with Tesla Vision cameras only. Good effort but still room for improvement I would say. Great videos though and thanks for sharing as always :-)
I have a Model 3 on order for mid march and finding your content very helpful will you do a comparison between premium connectivity and
standard
This week’s issue of Autocar magazine has a full Road Test of the M3 LR. They appear to have been a bit disappointed. Summed up by their cover quote: “Better, but not the best”. They were somewhat critical of the ride and not over enamoured by the tech. I guess though that the demographic of their readership is older (ex?) petrolheads who are drawn to more conventional sporty cars like the BMW i4. Strangely they complained more about not having a wiper stalk than stalks for indicators and drive selection.
Great video Richard! Love your content!
Had a model Y for about a year now. Having no USS is not an issue 99% of the time.
If I were to level a criticism, it would be the lack of front USS allied with a poor turning circle in general means that turning forward 90⁰ into, say, a tight supermarket parking space leaves the front corners at risk.
Hasn't been a problem for me but the wife gets nervous in such situations.
Great video 👍 will you be able to compare the same test with some brand car that has latest camera/parking sensors and compare.
I have Mercedes with camera parking sensors with adas and it didn't stop for 4 feet cardboard box 😢....so though people criticise about tesla removing parking sensors but does it help much outside tesla cars will be point to note...
Best video I've seen so far on this controversial topic. You tested every combination imaginable with all the different hardware setups. Thanks for answering my questions about this, as I've always thought this is just another cost-cutting measure by Tesla (after the passenger lumbar) and hold on purchasing a Model Y as my first EV, coming from an ICE vehicle with 360° camera + all the sensors + LUMBAR on passenger.
All looking good but still think mk1 eyeball is best for avoiding embarrassing marks, the emergency braking is impressive at the appropriate time.
Thanks Richard, I hope you pay your team Danger Money! I was very unsure about Tesla Vision when I purchased my 2023 model Y SR, with your previous videos confirming my nervousness but with the latest software update things have improved and will continue to improve, Keep up the content.
This much improvement in just 9 months and it will continue to improve. You bought the right car. Enjoy your supercomputer-on-wheels.
THANK YOU!! This is definitely the best parking sensor / no-sensor testing video out there in the whole world.
Wow, thanks!
As a side point, how tiny and low are the reversing lights on these??
Removing the proximity sensors was a bit silly. You can live with it, but it's just a step backwards.
curious about the blind spot. Did you review the camera footage for the side to see if it was a glare problem or similar?
Will you do a indepth test video for the vision only tap to park feature as well?
I do like the park assist but my gripe is the downgrading in the features since the ultrasonic sensor removal. I paid for EAP when I got my 2023 Model 3 and thought that there would be a fix to enable summon, smart summon and auto park. As yet nothing and I just contacted customer service and got a stock reply of tough luck keep waiting. It’s a shame as I love driving the car for so many reasons and I would 100% buy another Tesla in the future but I just feel like they need to be more clear about the EAP features when selling to newbies like I was!
Not being clear is how they make more money though
We often learn the hard way. I think it’s wrong that they sell EAP when several important features are simply not available. Ryan Shaw’s Tesla channel say to never buy a Tesla for a promised feature, only buy for features it currently has.
@@BobbieGWhiz yeah it’s a good point. I had heard that before and was dead set on avoiding the FSD for that reason but didn’t think through the EAP properly. I do a lot of motorway driving so I do love the auto lane change. Not sure if it’s worth the extra money but it’s close!
@@cohenalexu That is definitely a sweet feature.
Can already tell this will be a nightmare to park with when I get mine. Here in Portugal it's very common to have to either park on very short parallel parking spaces, or in spaces where there are obstacles that only the front sensors would pick up because they're below your eye sight. Also heard that the turning radius is not the greatest, which will make it even more interesting...
have a pandemic of hose reels in the streets?
@@Hammertime86 No, but of bollards of all shapes and sizes, fire hydrants, construction warning signs and all sorts of curb heights, we do :)
I'm not sure if it was just a function of the hose reel being too short, I'd like to see if it detects bollards around the standard 4' height or not :)@@OsUltraBug
@@Hammertime86 I agree. Would be interesting to see tests on more common small objects in the road. But I guess for my case I would have to watch an European review as from my experience, there are a lot of more uncommonly shaped and frequent obstacles while parking over here.
Tesla turning circles always suck vs other EVs
Not sure if you have covered this but does Tesla vision on the new Highland Model 3 show rear cross traffic? Will the new blind spot monitoring just added alert you to rear cross traffic?
The scenario in which I need the car to detect people very close to the car and it happens quite often is when I'm in a large parking lot at a large commercial center and people walk by the cars to the their car - so I start the engine and for a second a I look away from the window to find something or talk to someone besides me and then someone suddenly walks in front of the car just when I'm about to hit the acceleration. I'm glad my parking sensors warn me that someone is in front of the car. Even more so when the shopping cart gets in front of the car and so the person pushing it is even more into my peripheral view.
finallyyyyy, best content ever releaseeeeee xxxxxx
Sorry to ask but are the auto wipers any better?
Agreed they are such a pain. My 2014 leaf was better. The manual work arounds are just a fudge for a poor automatic setup. Come on Telsa sort with an update!!!!!
No. They are still crap
I still prefer USS, imo they should use both technologies combined, everyone else has USS.
Yep, I guess the reason cars with USS don't get the High-Fidelity Park Assist view yet is because of all the complaints they'd get from people losing their USS, but it seems like it should be pretty easy technically to combine the two - the new system still seems to be using the same underlying graphics rendering system in the car, so they'd just need to allow the new view *without* removing the existing distance lines that cars with USS display (it probably would take some extra work to make the lines still show when the view is rotated in 3D by hand, but for the default top-down view it should be easy, as that's basically the same as the existing USS view, so no big deal if the lines just disappear if the view is rotated)
Great video! It will work fine with clean cameras in daylight. Please try the same so the car says “degraded camera performance” or similar. It’s rubbish when covered in dirt and salt on nordic roads. Maybe use a piece of tape to simulate this?
I have been using it with my M3 at night and in the rain (in the UK so lots of rain) to reverse onto my drive. It works well for me even when the frequent "camera is degraded warning comes up" and I've got a blurred rear camera from driving through the rain for an hour. I live in the countryside so its mostly pitch black except for light coming from the windows in my house and neighbours houses, through curtains. Overall I've been impressed. I have another petrol car that just has audible parking sensors and rudimentary graphic display (but with larger mirrors and better visibility all round) and I find the Tesla the easiest to park at night regardless of the weather.
@@1bongofurymine worked fine in the UK as well. It can cope with rain. But when your lenses are smudged over with road salt which we have in the nordics, dry salt being the worst, it is very different. The issue being the side and rear cameras. The front has wipers.
Quite a big improvement which I honestly didn't expect. I think it is "usable" now but I would still prefer sensors. For me there is still a trust issue because as your video shows in some scenarios it just fails. Parking sensors perform more consistent. In addition the measurements were brilliant.
Will you also test the new high beam feature? I'm very curious for that.
Kudos, Richard, great video! Do you think you could do a similar quick test at dusk and at night? Quite often the chargers are impossible to see at night (in Ireland). I got Polestar 2 once hit the brakes before I almost reversed into one and I'm wondering how would Tesla Vision do in that case. Also, does it estimate distances in underground garages with plain surfaces, grey walls and grey concrete?
I will begrudgingly admit that it’s improved to the point of a black and white version of grand theft auto circa 1997 on the ps1 with wobbly graphics. It’s now usable. Is it better than a full colour video 360 feed with USS (a good implementation, ie Mercedes, Audi, BMW etc)? Nope, nowhere close. There’s also a fair bit of latency as the camera feeds the processor and then it has to guess in what things are causing some things to disappear or pop in. The fact it doesn’t show proximity to a person or warn you is worrying as this is not just a tech demo, it’s a safety system to stop you driving into hosereels, non descript walls or even small children. Sometimes isn’t good enough.
I would argue that most 360 vision stuff is highly unreliable and inferior to this. Generally they tend to be a gimmick, but there are some implementations that are a bit better than the average.
In short, for simple scenarios they are comparable, but for more advanced scenarios such as parking between pillars and such, the vision generally does a better now.
Having used this version for a while now, there is no way I would substitute it for a 360 alternative.
The previous version of Tesla's vision solution though was not up to snuff, I'm glad they finally addressed that.
Just a little more,
you can never have too much bush 😊
Never before have I owned a car that was as easy to park and maneuver as my Tesla MY
Well done Tesla! Many of us were initially annoyed when the Ultra Sonic Sensors were removed, and the Tesla Vision park assist was lacking, but it's reassuring to see how practical it has become now, especially knowing that it will only get better.
Can you do a test of the visual parking sensors during the night time to see if it are as accurate during the night.
It’s exactly the same. The cameras can see a lot even in the dark. We have tried it before on a Model Y in the warehouse and it worked absolutely fine.
Why Tesla just didn't add a front camera and a camera under each wing mirror on this new version still baffles me. That would have given a proper 360 surround view in full colour which is far better. Its a super helpful system and works well for things like drive-thrus and parallel parking where you can see exactly where the kerbs are so you don't scuff your wheels :)
Tesla still can't get the basics right and are trying to fix a problem that didn't exist. That rear camera gets filthy in Winter after a few hundred yards and of course, they ommited a camera washer which many other makes have. To me, a proper, modern 360 camera is like a top end ipad with its sharp and detailed screen. This Tesla vision is like one of those cheap kids 'my first tablet' devices which seem generations out of date, and in mono colour with bad graphics.
Tesla so smart but also so dumb feomt camera def would have helpwd
I agree that a proper 360 surround view would be great, but from what I've heard, it's at least partly because Nissan has a patent on that system so Tesla would have to pay licensing fees etc, which they don't like doing (and is apparently what other manufacturers with 360 camera systems do, pay Nissan for the license). I'm glad that Tesla are now at least trying to do something to approximate it rather than not bothering at all though!
upon seeing the thumbnail I was hoping it would be a real vision pro, unfortunatelly it was a cringe dad joke. love the channel though!
How can full self-driving ever work safely with this hardware and camera setup, when it can't see low-level items on the road in front or behind you.
It won't. We will be flying in eVtols before cars can travel fully autonomously. No local obstacles up in the air.
Slows for speed bumps ok.
How do human beings do it?
12:45 This is not good. What if that hose reel was a rock, baby or pet that moved into the path of the vehicle? I'm amazed how little Tesla have invested in a total awareness sensor set. It's no good relying on the driver to spot things if FSD is supposed to eliminate the driver and/or steering wheel! (I have a Model Y LR, which i love.)
Great vid, very useful, the tesla vision will just get better guaranteed..
Would Be Great if you could do a review on the SMART #1
New Tesla Model 3 so much better looking than the old one.
OK so that was excellent. Great, real world testing and a superb result for Tesla Vision. Just as good - and perhaps superior - to parking sensors. Thanks Richard and Ginz - brilliant testing/content, very practical and helpful for decision making. LOVE the old Model 3, ADORE this new 3Fresh - buying one! Cheers!
Thanks for another unique review video. Much more real than other videos I’ve seen on other channels. Keep making great content.👍
Another good informative video. Bit odd watching a 23+ min vid "parking camera/sensor" test which ANY car over the past 20 years would pass without an issue. The graphical illustrations on the central screen are "cool" but pretty pointless (taking your eyes of the road yet again to look at the screen). Can it pick out low lying obstructions in pitch black poorly lit car parks? I have come a cropper hitting low kerbs and even planks of wood in the past in such situations. That's when park sensors come in handy.
Surely parking sensors (on any car) don't detect kerbs or anything else that's very low at all?
@@EdwardMillen I think the best ones do as they are already mounted low on a car bumper/fender already. Would like to see how these high mounted Tesla vision camera cope when it is dark and rainy/snowy.
@@markymarkreviews oh ok, other cars I've driven didn't, and Teslas with USS definitely don't, so this new system is an improvement over that for kerbs etc. I've found that the Tesla cameras generally cope surprisingly well when it's dark or rainy, road markings etc actually seem to be more visible by looking at the cameras (and to the Autopilot system) than they are by looking directly out of the windows. But yeah, if it's completely pitch-black kinda dark, sensors might still be better!
Agreed. Will wait for RSymons to do the next round of testing😂.
They should not have removed ultrasonic sensors. I saw something the developers were against removing them.
16:41 is the car okay? :D the emergency break hits really hard!
It's really strange that Tesla has no modern radar sensors !
How is it supposed to pick up front or rear cross traffic ?
Bit off topic but could you give your opinion on the seat bottoms? I did a overnight demo drive and found that it hurt my tailbone. I'm coming from a 2022 Model 3. Also does the stitching on the steering wheel annoy you as much as it did for me?
I am waiting for my ultra red M3 long range 2024 model. First thing I'm gonna do is a tacho build in and the front bumper camera as well. So I always see if there is something low in front of my car.
Awesome video. This is just version 1 of Tesla vision and yet it's quite good. I'm sure it will improve a lot.
Version 1 🤔
It’s been on vehicles for over 12 months and gone through several updates already.
@@SDK2006bnot really. It had some improvements maybe but it’s basically still version one. There will be a bigger step when a next version is out. Confirmed by Tesla technician that is working on it and it’s only been available since December so barely 2,5 months
The refresshed model 3 is beautiful
The Tesla team are great
I have a model 3 rwd standard range of or over 4 year's now. ( Nothing has ever gone wrong. Battery still charged to 100%. I get about 200 miles range( mainly motorway). I don't compromise when driving. I could get 250 if ultra gentle . Passes for NCT test last week. Not one fault, even the tires on the front which where never changed ( new rears last September ) are okay and the brakes no wear at all because of the regeneration breaking... MY OPINION THE TESLA MODEL 3 IS PROBABLY THE BEST VALUE NEW CAR ON THE MARKET I LOVE DRIVING IT. I WOULD THOROUGHLY RECOMMEND IT TO ANYBODY.. ( I TEST DROVE THE NEW ONE IT'S A LOT SMOOTHER AND QUIETER BUT NOT AS FAST .
MY ORIGINAL SILVER WINDOW FRAME CALIFORNIA MADE MODEL 3
.BOUGHT HERE IN IRELAND IS STUPID QUICK UP TO 100KM.. ( I think I'd missed that in the new one but it's ever so slightly slower.. and in the real world coming from most cars you'd be blown away by how quick it is
Test drive and you will probably buy one. If you'r 😊in the market?
The TH-camr Dilon Loomis on his Electrified channel used your testing of Tesla vision in this video in his recent vlog at around 4 mins in.
Please do the test again but in dusk/dark conditions. I believe it'll perform terrible.
interestingly enough if you have FSD beta in the US the ultrasonic cars display a lot more information, similar to the tesla vision only cars.
They need to have the camera to have a memory of objects and gradually increase the accuracy. The instant ‘memory loss’ is working against its efficiency
what if a person lie down in front of the car instead of the hose would the car see it?
Hello! Can you change the display lights in the model 3 from one color to RGB? Multicolor
I wonder how well Tesla Vision works in direct sunlight with camera off-line because its being oversaturated by bright light, or in heavy rain when the camera lens is obscured by water droplets. In Winter, my Model Y door pillar cameras are regular wiped out by direct sunlight, and motorway self-drive goes off-line, especially as the sun is at low elevation at higher latitudes, as in the UK. And try reversing your Tesla on to your drive immediately after driving along a wet road, if you haven't got out of the car and wiped the rear camera lens first. Cameras operating in the normal visual spectrum are clearly an important self-driving component, but they are not very good when visibility is poor e.g. wet weather, or there is bright sunlight in their field of view. Tesla's are great cars, but it does make me nervous when I am sitting at traffic lights and I am looking at my Model Y's cars view of what surrounds it, and a car immediately next to it in an adjacent lane suddenly disappears from my Model Y's view of the world, but it's still there in reality, other than it moved into a virtual blind spot between a couple of my Model Y's cameras. I think it is short sighted to limit the array of sensors available to a car for full self-driving operation, and for this reason I think Telsa's full self-driving capability will never get out of beta, other than achieve some manufacturing cost savings. For a reliable all-weather full self-driving operation, you need to augment cameras with automatic lens cleaning and adjustable apertures / bright light level control mechanism (low light operation is generally good on my Tesla), plus lidar, radar, infra-red vision, and possibly ultrasonics, and off course great AI (including powerful GPUs / NPUs) to build a real-time 360 3D 'field of view' of the space surrounding the car.
With fsd it would run over these objects?
The problem for me is salt and water that make the rear view camera useless. In the dark is getting worst.
Same if someone is parking in front of you when the car is parked and you should drive off.
what about stopping car by itself system in model 3 highland to protect crash front car ? what speed available prevent crashing ? thank you
Great video, Richard. Excellent production values. Thanks for helping to reassure potential buyers of the constant improvement in the software, issued as free over-the-air updates to all Tesla owners while they sleep. Competitors' software is currently typically locked to the version installed as the car rolls off the forecourt, bugs and all. THIS is what all (surviving) car brands will be doing in a few years' time. Dragged into the 21st century by Tesla.
Could you add a link to your previous video last year where you did the same tests on (mostly) the same cars but with an earlier version of the software, showing just how much it has improved while still using the same camera hardware?
And yet, with a few cheap traditional ultrasonic sensors it would be far better in all conditions.
4:40 you didn't notice a car bumping to your drivers door? Clearly the vision showed that
Thank you for this kind of videos.
I just discovered your channel and i really like it. Regards from Mexico
i dont like how the new model reverse camera is a mirror image I.E yellow paint lines in car park were on the left side but in reality was on your right, and reg numbers of other cars mirrored etc, the older model when you showed rear cameras was the right way round, not sure what i mean? put old and new in same spot and look at rear camera