For anyone in the world viewing this video (apart from the stubborn US) 1. LR RWD Distance: 621.2 km Energy consumption: 128.0 Wh/km Efficiency: 7.810 km/kWh Energy used: 79.5 kWh 2. LR AWD Pan (18" wheels) Distance: 587.4 km Energy consumption: 133.6 Wh/km Efficiency: 7.486 km/kWh Energy used: 78.5 kWh 3. LR AWD LG (19" wheels) Distance: 495.7 km Energy consumption: 154.8 Wh/km Efficiency: 6.464 km/kWh Energy used: 76.7 kWh 4. Performance Distance: 463.5 km Energy consumption: 164.7 Wh/km Efficiency: 6.073 km/kWh Energy used: 76.3 kWh 5. RWD LFP Distance: 445.8 km Energy consumption: 132.4 Wh/km Efficiency: 7.556 km/kWh Energy used: 59.0 kWh
@@SunshineVocalsIm surprised SR LFP doesn’t have a smaller consumption, is a smaller battery and lighter vehicle. Shouldn’t that make it more efficient?
Just got a LR RWD and the range has exceeded my expectations. I did a 185 mile commute, half of which was going 80-85 mph with thousands of feet of elevation change, and it only took 51% of my battery.
I think it was mostly due to drag and tuning for the awd models as it seems like the awd models where able to disconnect the front motor more often then the legecy ones which is why I think the range difference is on drag.
@@coolsquad7428 The front motor cannot be disconnected. It is just running without much resistance due to no permanent magnets. But as you can see in this test it does increase consumption due to its weight and also due to more moving parts.
Thanks! I really like that results up front and the way it was written on the screen helped with clarity(the car and diver labels were good too)! (Still watched the whole thing.) The difference between the 2 AWD cars was astonishing!
Love the video format! If I have time I watch the entire video but now, if not, I no longer completely skip watching since you tell me the range up front. Thank you!
Absolutely enjoyed this GREAT video and the best of controlled testing you can do in a real life scenario, THANK YOU! I own the LR RWD, absolutely love it, my number’s are consistent with yours as well, it’s truly an AMAZING vehicle/BUY!!!👍✌️
I would like to see a range test with a full load of cargo. Like simulating a road trip with a family. I think all that would be necessary is pick one car, see the losses and extrapolate that out to other models. My wife takes our RWD LFP (272 mi) with 3 kids all the time. We're averaging 253 whr/mile after 19k miles, which brings the car (if you calculate a 57kwhr battery - excluding the buffer) - to roughly 225 miles. This is pretty much what we get. I always say, it's basically a 200 to 220 mile car.
I am very grateful you are doing all the range tests, for me it would be the most boring thing you can do with a car, except of waitig for a 100% Charge..
Awesome vid! Please do more charging comparison testing with the model 3/Y, ideally include some older models too say 2019 onwards as the used market is getting very good and as you’ve proven charging speed on a road trip matters more than range
Loved seeing the M3 LR RWD vs Ioniq 6 range test. Loved this one as much or even more. Not at interstate speed on our hurricane Milton evacuation (rural roads and highways 99% of the time - max speed 65 mph and then city driving during our out of town stay) and we achieved 203 Wh/mile over 831 miles of driving my 2024 M3 LR RWD. Comfort and range were amazing, and Supercharging was convenient and painless. So glad I bought this car at the end of August. Now I'm looking forward to charging and 10% challenge test videos!
Great work! What a great comparison. All have plenty of range for long trips. The main advantage of the LR RWD is the price and the efficiency (which increases the more important factor which is charging speed).
Displaying the results on-screen is a great addition and allows for very easy comparison. Any chance of including m/kWh (to save my feeble brain) in future multi-vehicle range tests?
For the ones I cared about: 2024 Model 3 AWD 19" tires with LG battery: 4.15 miles/kWh 2024 Model 3 AWD 18" tires with Panasonic: 4.65 miles/kWh 2024 Model 3 RWD LR (base model now): 4.85 miles/kWh
360+miles of real world range 0-60mph in 4.8s, it's cheaper than an ecoboost mustang after the tax credit and a referral code at 34k+tt&L. It's also the most American made ev sedan by parts count! Go tesla&team USA! 😎👍🏻
altough theres almost nothing to see there.. i still love the wide landscape 😅 looks all like a huge desert ^^ i even googlemapped where they drive on my phone while watching 🤣
Great job team! The only thing that could be added would be comparison of what the BMS said the range would be at the end of the trip vs what it actually got, and how many miles at 70mph do you have after 0%. I would bet the LFP to have the least accurate reading.
I've owned both the 2019 M3P and now the 2024 M3P, the range difference between the old and new cars is significant, but what's hurting the range on the 2024 is the Pirelli PZero tires. They are noisy, rough riding and not as efficient as Michelin PS4S that Tesla was using on the previous generation Performance model. I'd bet just changing the tires would get another 15 miles of range on a full charge, which would then meet the EPA range.
I live in Wyoming and drive a 2022 long range AWD....Most travelling is done on the interstate between 80 and 85 mph, and sometimes below 0 degrees F, and always windy. My cars lifetime average is 288 wh/mi. and is regularly 300 - 400 wh/mi. It would be nice to see some real world testing in similar situations. These slow 70 mph tests don't tell me much. Hopefully one day Tesla will make a car that I can drive over 250 miles in my state.
took a long trip in sept with my Long Range in sept. 70 degree day 65-70mph drafting 2 seconds behind a truck half the time. 185whr/mi during the day, 196 whr/mi at night
Many 1980's Japanese cars intentionally had "terrorist" gas gauges. When they said DEAD EMPTY and the FUEL NOW light came on, the car usually had 75-100 miles of range left. Apparently they felt that drivers couldn't handle the truth.
Aero, drivetrain config and tires are the main factors in efficiency. Aero should be the same except the performance has a spoiler. Testing stock tires is important since that's the most common overall car configuration, but I wonder how much is JUST from the drivetrain (single motor vs lr awd vs awd w/performance motor). Would be an interesting test to isolate the drivetrain variable by swapping all the cars with the same tire/wheel combos.
Great video! Having driven a lot back in Colorado and also here in lowland California, I would say that your wh/mi figures are going to be somewhat lower at 5000-6000’ than at sea-level, because of the thinner air. I don’t know what the percentage diff would be (one could prob theoretically calculate it), but the vehicle I have more extensive experience with at both altitudes is my ‘86 4Runner, seeing maybe about 25-28mpg at higher altitudes, and closer to ~22mpg near sea level. The diff might be 10-20%. An ICE also has more pumping loss at lower altitude.
I recently posted this on top of this page before I noticed your post here : "Am I correct in assuming this test was done in Colorado ? If so , you have to take the reduction in air density due to the elevation above sea level into account . In Denver at more than 5000 ft above sea level , air density will be only 85% of that at sea level . Air drag , the biggest drag component at 70 mph , will be 15% lower . I am guessing that this will approximately result in 10% more range than if you had done the test in Florida ."
I'd love to see this exact same tes repeated with all the acceleration modes set to standard! Great to see that if you baby a tesla in chill mode you can exceed range, but I'd like to see a real world range test with additional efficiency lowering factors in play
Excellent test! Tesla is hiring LFP manufacturing positions. LFP is definitely making a comeback because they test it on Model 3 and Y before putting it in the CyberCab.
My AWD came with Michelins, picked it up in July. I was worried that it would come with the Hankooks because I saw them on a car at the Tesla store in the spring. It seems like it's a crap shoot as to what they put on the car.
I didn't realize the buffer that showed on Scan My Tesla was usable. I thought it was a protective buffer that was used by Tesla's system/BMS to protect the battery or something.
I love your vids, thank you for your work. Can I ask you for something? 🙂 Couldn't you contact Tesla and tell them we NEED another slot in the ride panel? Quite obviously, we all use one slot from the time we get our vehicle. Thank you. :-)
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how long dos it take to charge a car???? IE all models
@@tomcatt1740 20-80% around 25-30 mins. 0-100% may take an hr.
For anyone in the world viewing this video (apart from the stubborn US)
1. LR RWD
Distance: 621.2 km
Energy consumption: 128.0 Wh/km
Efficiency: 7.810 km/kWh
Energy used: 79.5 kWh
2. LR AWD Pan (18" wheels)
Distance: 587.4 km
Energy consumption: 133.6 Wh/km
Efficiency: 7.486 km/kWh
Energy used: 78.5 kWh
3. LR AWD LG (19" wheels)
Distance: 495.7 km
Energy consumption: 154.8 Wh/km
Efficiency: 6.464 km/kWh
Energy used: 76.7 kWh
4. Performance
Distance: 463.5 km
Energy consumption: 164.7 Wh/km
Efficiency: 6.073 km/kWh
Energy used: 76.3 kWh
5. RWD LFP
Distance: 445.8 km
Energy consumption: 132.4 Wh/km
Efficiency: 7.556 km/kWh
Energy used: 59.0 kWh
King
And speed was at 113 km/h
I'm surprised the LFP and the LR AWD have basically the same consumption
@@SunshineVocalsIm surprised SR LFP doesn’t have a smaller consumption, is a smaller battery and lighter vehicle. Shouldn’t that make it more efficient?
In miles please
Alysa's deadpan delivery gets me every time lol
why does she sound so bored all the time
Imagine all the ideas she talks Kyle out of? Haha
She is Hilarious.
@@ervin9805 because she dates nasilly Kyle lol...she needs a stud lol
Anyone else skip past the beginning of the video where Jordan gave the results so that you could watch the results ‘live’ as they happened?! 😂
No
Im sory but Im not watching 1:31 of people just driving cars until they stop.
Nope, that was the important bit. I then just skipped to the end.
I hate the summary at the beginning. They could just do a timestamp and say “reveal is at 35:55” or whatever
Lame question
Just got a LR RWD and the range has exceeded my expectations. I did a 185 mile commute, half of which was going 80-85 mph with thousands of feet of elevation change, and it only took 51% of my battery.
Its stunning, how close the RWD and AWD with Panasonic batteries are. The difference is about 5%. I did not expect that!
Great range test, thank you!
I think it was mostly due to drag and tuning for the awd models as it seems like the awd models where able to disconnect the front motor more often then the legecy ones which is why I think the range difference is on drag.
@@coolsquad7428 The front motor cannot be disconnected. It is just running without much resistance due to no permanent magnets. But as you can see in this test it does increase consumption due to its weight and also due to more moving parts.
Model Y lineup next!
Yes please
@@brandenflasch model y is old news
5 Juniper models? With a RoboTaxi and RoboVan tossed in the mix?
When Brandon pulled off the road into the weeds, I thought fire hazard, but that's how you think if you're still driving an ICE vehicle!
I skipped the early spoiler results, so video is more exciting.
Thanks! I really like that results up front and the way it was written on the screen helped with clarity(the car and diver labels were good too)! (Still watched the whole thing.) The difference between the 2 AWD cars was astonishing!
Love the video format! If I have time I watch the entire video but now, if not, I no longer completely skip watching since you tell me the range up front. Thank you!
you guys are AWESOME, you always put a smile on my face, can't get enough of your content, what a crew
That has got to be the most profitable ChargePoint station in Colorado 😂
Feel bad for someone getting off there to charge and seeing it full of Teslas...
Happy birthday Lacey!!🎉🎉
Legendary test! Thanks for all the hard work ;)
Absolutely enjoyed this GREAT video and the best of controlled testing you can do in a real life scenario, THANK YOU! I own the LR RWD, absolutely love it, my number’s are consistent with yours as well, it’s truly an AMAZING vehicle/BUY!!!👍✌️
Happy birthday Lacey! What a way to celebrate reaching 25% SOC!
Haha, I loved Lacey's style of celebrating her birthday. No going to the club getting drunk, but driving 5 hours to nowhere.
Best Tesla related video I’ve seen in a while.
Yes!!!! Love the range tests!
Lets go team LFP!
Appreciate you guys putting the results near the start of the video
Love it!! This is awesome!!! Thanks Kyle!
That lucid is amazing
Thank You Everybody for All that you are doing for our Planet Earth.... Peace.. Shalom.. Salam.. Namaste
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Great testing. Rekindled my model 3 desire. LR RWD only way to travel.
1:00:11 The new Model 3 and its new designed front / rear looks so good
It's amazing how much these videos suck you in. I drive a Model 3 and still find this fascinating lol.
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THIS is the video I've been waiting for A++
I would like to see a range test with a full load of cargo. Like simulating a road trip with a family. I think all that would be necessary is pick one car, see the losses and extrapolate that out to other models.
My wife takes our RWD LFP (272 mi) with 3 kids all the time. We're averaging 253 whr/mile after 19k miles, which brings the car (if you calculate a 57kwhr battery - excluding the buffer) - to roughly 225 miles. This is pretty much what we get. I always say, it's basically a 200 to 220 mile car.
yes. I returned the RWD LFP partially because I often got only 200 miles per charge ( running to 10% battery). I hated it. I have the LR version now😊
I am very grateful you are doing all the range tests, for me it would be the most boring thing you can do with a car, except of waitig for a 100% Charge..
Awesome vid! Please do more charging comparison testing with the model 3/Y, ideally include some older models too say 2019 onwards as the used market is getting very good and as you’ve proven charging speed on a road trip matters more than range
EPIC test. I would love to see a M3P on 18's included in these tests.
Woah what the heck, that's one hell of a lineup 😂
Loved seeing the M3 LR RWD vs Ioniq 6 range test. Loved this one as much or even more. Not at interstate speed on our hurricane Milton evacuation (rural roads and highways 99% of the time - max speed 65 mph and then city driving during our out of town stay) and we achieved 203 Wh/mile over 831 miles of driving my 2024 M3 LR RWD. Comfort and range were amazing, and Supercharging was convenient and painless. So glad I bought this car at the end of August. Now I'm looking forward to charging and 10% challenge test videos!
Alyssa's acting impressed with Kyle's electric car deep dive is pretty convincing, even though I'm pretty sure she's lost.
That phenomenal... My SR+ with only 15K miles only delivers a fairly consistent 140 miles out of 240 miles range.
You guys are killing it! Amazing work! Love the Model 3 too.
THANK YOU FOR THIS VIDEO!
Great work! What a great comparison. All have plenty of range for long trips. The main advantage of the LR RWD is the price and the efficiency (which increases the more important factor which is charging speed).
Wow, what an amazing video, I know which model 3 to purchase now, thanks
Displaying the results on-screen is a great addition and allows for very easy comparison. Any chance of including m/kWh (to save my feeble brain) in future multi-vehicle range tests?
For the ones I cared about:
2024 Model 3 AWD 19" tires with LG battery: 4.15 miles/kWh
2024 Model 3 AWD 18" tires with Panasonic: 4.65 miles/kWh
2024 Model 3 RWD LR (base model now): 4.85 miles/kWh
Agreed!
You made up my mind. I'm buying the long range rwd Model 3.
I'm surprised M3 RWD LR is more efficient than M3 RWD LFP despite being heavier!
I’ve been craving for LR RWD test. It so impressive that it is getting than kind of range. unreal.
360+miles of real world range 0-60mph in 4.8s, it's cheaper than an ecoboost mustang after the tax credit and a referral code at 34k+tt&L.
It's also the most American made ev sedan by parts count! Go tesla&team USA! 😎👍🏻
altough theres almost nothing to see there.. i still love the wide landscape 😅 looks all like a huge desert ^^ i even googlemapped where they drive on my phone while watching 🤣
Great job team! The only thing that could be added would be comparison of what the BMS said the range would be at the end of the trip vs what it actually got, and how many miles at 70mph do you have after 0%. I would bet the LFP to have the least accurate reading.
watched the entire video but appreciate the numbers in the beginning.
Thanks for the Video. You confirm my choice to upgrade for a RWD long range Tesla model 3. I loved my 2021 SR+ but this new car will be a blast.
What a fantastic comparison video. Nice work. Would love to see a similar test with the Model Y, especially with the LR RWD included.
I've owned both the 2019 M3P and now the 2024 M3P, the range difference between the old and new cars is significant, but what's hurting the range on the 2024 is the Pirelli PZero tires. They are noisy, rough riding and not as efficient as Michelin PS4S that Tesla was using on the previous generation Performance model. I'd bet just changing the tires would get another 15 miles of range on a full charge, which would then meet the EPA range.
Well run test, that's for sure. Thanks guys!
The RWD LR is truly amazing,cheers guys great video 👍😉💪
Cheers from Portugal. Great vídeo 👍 congrats
I live in Wyoming and drive a 2022 long range AWD....Most travelling is done on the interstate between 80 and 85 mph, and sometimes below 0 degrees F, and always windy. My cars lifetime average is 288 wh/mi. and is regularly 300 - 400 wh/mi. It would be nice to see some real world testing in similar situations. These slow 70 mph tests don't tell me much. Hopefully one day Tesla will make a car that I can drive over 250 miles in my state.
took a long trip in sept with my Long Range in sept. 70 degree day 65-70mph drafting 2 seconds behind a truck half the time. 185whr/mi during the day, 196 whr/mi at night
What a great testing video Kyle! I'm surprised it went further than EPA range
Hell yeah brother!
Many 1980's Japanese cars intentionally had "terrorist" gas gauges. When they said DEAD EMPTY and the FUEL NOW light came on, the car usually had 75-100 miles of range left.
Apparently they felt that drivers couldn't handle the truth.
Up to 100 miles hidden is insane lmao. I'd understand 25-50, but 100 I'd be upset.
Thanks for the early summary!
Lol. Happy birthday Lacey! (probably quite belated)
You should try running with and without FSD to compare the difference in range.
Love how the model three at the end was summoned away from Kyle😂
Awesome video and amazing results the Highland is an absolutely great car… Guess it’s time to upgrade my 2018 M3 AWD…
Hot take: The long range should be the "standard range" and then the long range that has a 70mph range of at least 500 miles even with "sport" wheels
Make this test with the Model Ys.
Including the new 2025 LRRWD, that’s saying can make till 337miles
I love this idea, I think it would be better to wait for the refresh though
Can you do this video again for model y trims?
Thank God the tan pants are still in the rotation. I had not seen them for a while and, truthfully, I was fearful.
Aero, drivetrain config and tires are the main factors in efficiency. Aero should be the same except the performance has a spoiler. Testing stock tires is important since that's the most common overall car configuration, but I wonder how much is JUST from the drivetrain (single motor vs lr awd vs awd w/performance motor). Would be an interesting test to isolate the drivetrain variable by swapping all the cars with the same tire/wheel combos.
29:51 jordan did not realize that the cybertruck was kyle 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Useful video, many thanks, would be interested to see this with new model Y.
Great video! Having driven a lot back in Colorado and also here in lowland California, I would say that your wh/mi figures are going to be somewhat lower at 5000-6000’ than at sea-level, because of the thinner air. I don’t know what the percentage diff would be (one could prob theoretically calculate it), but the vehicle I have more extensive experience with at both altitudes is my ‘86 4Runner, seeing maybe about 25-28mpg at higher altitudes, and closer to ~22mpg near sea level. The diff might be 10-20%. An ICE also has more pumping loss at lower altitude.
I recently posted this on top of this page before I noticed your post here : "Am I correct in assuming this test was done in Colorado ? If so , you have to take the reduction in air density due to the elevation above sea level into account . In Denver at more than 5000 ft above sea level , air density will be only 85% of that at sea level . Air drag , the biggest drag component at 70 mph , will be 15% lower . I am guessing that this will approximately result in 10% more range than if you had done the test in Florida ."
I'd love to see this exact same tes repeated with all the acceleration modes set to standard! Great to see that if you baby a tesla in chill mode you can exceed range, but I'd like to see a real world range test with additional efficiency lowering factors in play
OoS Rocks!!! 🔥One of the best Car review channels out there 👏😊
a graph would of helped! :)
thanks for the results in the beginning. i still watch the whole video tho
13:22 nice edit! Suggestion: add the numbers in worldwide metric KMs as (xx) !
Nice job guys and gals!
Im glad I got the model 3 LR AWD
Excellent test! Tesla is hiring LFP manufacturing positions. LFP is definitely making a comeback because they test it on Model 3 and Y before putting it in the CyberCab.
My RWD Long Range came with Hankook Ventus standard. Took delivery 2 weeks ago.
Mine came with Michelin and just picked up a few days ago in Minnesota.
My AWD came with Michelins, picked it up in July. I was worried that it would come with the Hankooks because I saw them on a car at the Tesla store in the spring. It seems like it's a crap shoot as to what they put on the car.
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When’s the charismatic Lacey getting her own show?!?!?!
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I didn't realize the buffer that showed on Scan My Tesla was usable. I thought it was a protective buffer that was used by Tesla's system/BMS to protect the battery or something.
Awesome content guys, keep it up !
What about modely LR RWD? will you guys be doing a similar test with all modelys 2023+ ? :)
Great video 👍!
Awesome work! Its like herding cats LOL
Great video!
0:54 how does Andreas have all that cake
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Amazing test! How many miles does the m3 rwd lfp had from 0% to complete stop?
Did they have the same tires? It's possible the tire differences could be as great or greater than the wheel differences.
One continental 18” one Michelin 19”
Moving 4,000+ pounds 5 miles by using 1,000 watt/hr is insane efficiency. You're hair dryer requires more energy.
Great fun and info. Thanks.
You should make a nice little table with numbers in the end, would be more accessible
Are the Aero caps on the performance model?
a 50-60kWh LFP model 3 SR with US made LFP cells would be very interesting
Nice
Maybe put large "out of spec reviews" stickers with youtube logos on the rear window once you run out so ppl know you're testing lol
How do you get the range and charge information on the rolling road screen?
My first TH-cam video was a 5 way efficiency test of all the pre-highland Model 3's lol 😄
I’m sure they all didn’t make it to epa. Rwd lfp prob came closest to it tho
@@sxucy360hz You should watch the video 😁 My 2022 Model 3 Performance beat it's EPA range by 8% due to my aftermarket 19" Aero wheels 😎
@@teslasnek awesome
Great stuff but please put up the usable capacity drained from the pack with the test results
I love your vids, thank you for your work. Can I ask you for something? 🙂 Couldn't you contact Tesla and tell them we NEED another slot in the ride panel? Quite obviously, we all use one slot from the time we get our vehicle. Thank you. :-)