Can we just take a moment to appreciate how loyal Jack is to The Doctor, he waited hundreds of years to be reunited with him despite The Doctor being a bit of a dick 😂
The right kind of doctor line always gets me, because you know no matter how much he thought it was a bad idea. You know if the doctor was there and told him to open it he wouldn't of hesitated or questioned it
it isn't nice how the tenth treats jack but he already explains this in utopia - Jack is immortal and can never travel with him because the tardis and jack are not compatible. went all the way to the end of the universe to shake him off 😂
@@lui5rivera I cant remember for sure, but i dont know if we the viewer, knew that Rose had brought Jack back forever. But the Doctor knew. And wanted to avoid him. (For whatever reason). Didnt maybe have the desire to explain Jack to Martha, plus the "100 Trillion Year in the future" Trip they were unexpectedly heading on, but have gave the Doctor Pause in that moment. Thats how i felt on the second runthrough. I think on the first though, i was just asking myself "wait, why are you leaving Jack out there Doctor....he could die or get lost in time somewhere?" Utopia i think, ismy favorite episode. The way the Master slowly gets revealed. The music. The tone. So good. I wonder how Eric Roberts became Professor Yana. All that in between story. If it was covered in a book or something. That would be cool.
In Torchwood he has to lead the team and make the hard decisions. He's trying to be like The Doctor but he's not had the life of a Time-Lord and isn't as well-prepared. In Doctor Who, he can finally relax and let somebody else make the hard decisions. The differencr isnt actually that strong, he does make a lot of the same kinds of jokes in the same situations in both shows, he just makes more jokes in Doctor Who.
Doctor Who resisted because the workflow was pretty different in HD, and the old 9/10 tardis interior would've looked pretty rough in HD. That's what I've always read
Its because the Torchwood stuff was shot months before they new how things were gonna be done in utopia, so in Torchwood they ran with the assumption that the Tardis would materialise in the Hub and jack would leave the hand, the doctor taking him back willingly and perhaps intentionally. However when it came to Doctor Who they changed it to where jack DID take the hand and was not taken willingly with the Tardis materialising outside the Hub.
it was probably the tardis landing on the hubs lift, sending air down into the Hub, it also explains why Jack didnt just simply use the lift because the tardis would be the exit
That’s probably what people thought the first time they watched it: the Tardis materialised around Jack inside the Torchwood Hub and then dematerialised.
Shame. I always saw it as a missed-opprotunity that The Doctor never appeared in Torchwood. But, I understand the reasoning behind it. (I myself, made it through about 7 episodes of Torchwood, when I was only about 11-years-old, before I stopped... And never really came-back.) Hey, if anyone's interested, I'm reviewing all the Doctor Who stories on my channel, with me just having uploaded my review of: 'The Green Death (1973)!' No pressure, of-course; It just might be worth checking-out! :)
This is really well done. If you watch the Torchwood ending the Tardis clearly materialised inside the Hub, not above it, but you've got around that well with good editing.
In the Torchwood ending when the camera zooms out you can see the jar with the Doctor's hand even though in Utopia it is shown that Jack has taken it with him
Its because the Torchwood stuff was shot months before they new how things were gonna be done in utopia, so in Torchwood they ran with the assumption that the Tardis would materialise in the Hub and jack would leave the hand, the doctor taking him back willingly and perhaps intentionally. However when it came to Doctor Who they changed it to where jack DID take the hand and was not taken willingly with the Tardis materialising outside the Hub.
what if jack had never clung to the tardis and therefore the tardis never had to fly to the end of the universie in an effort to get rid of him. would professor Yana have just died as a human never knowing he was the master?
He wouldnt have died as a human, the universe would have ended which would mean the master died at a time of not knowing who he was but he would have also live for how ever many years before that which means from a story telling perspective SPOILER ALERT! Harold saxon, missy and Oh could have still happened
if we never went to the end of the Universe then the writers would just have found another way to bring back the Master, if they never wrote him as being Professor Yana then he never would have died because the character never existed.
Doctor Who is a show about time travel. If you play the "what if" game, you're actually writing new stories and messing with all that has "actually happened". Also, "You can't apply logic to Who!" - Matt Smith.
Then 10 would have never regenerated because the Master would have never been alive to (inadvertently) help Rassilon bring back the timelords and Gallifrey. Wilford never gets stuck. 😋
how does no one look at the tardis disappearing, i mean surely a man going "DOOOCTTTOOOOOOR" holding on to the outside of it while it vworps off would draw someones attention...but hey, i guess we british just dont wanna make a fuss
The lift from the hub to the surface is built on a blind spot caused by the TARDIS in series 1. Nobody notices anything there unless their attention is brought to that spot. Assuming the Doctor always parks in that same spot, which would explain why Jack didn't use the lift, then people might hear someone shouting, look around for the source and simply look past the dematerialising blue box with a man hanging off it like it's not even there.
Strange guy running and shouting doctor would get some eyes upon Jack. But the Tardis is another matter, the perception filter stops anyone from noticing anything strange.
I wish they would bring Jack back. I liked him (Edit) Yes I know he's back. Please stop saying it :P I've already had like 20 people comment that on this
TheRedstoneBlaze the good man goes to war story line was actually how he was meant to become the face of boe. he was meant to be beheaded by the headless monks
DanielRichards644 that's true but as we saw with the headless monks and dorium, the guy was technically still living but as a head. So who knows. Either way it's dr who so anything can happen tbh 😂
In the Torchwood parts, don't you have the impression that the Tardis is comming into the building of Torchwwod, and not at the outside ?? It looks like a jump-cut between the both series and it has always made me doubt the real connection between the two ... But there is no other explanation.
Considering the Hub has the two main entrances, the logical idea would be Jack had a mechanism to quickly pack up the hand for travel, then took the lift back up to the plaza at a high speed or something (or however long the sequence took relative to Gwen checking in on Jack). Doesn't look like the TARDIS landed on top of it. Failing that, either Jack had a third shortcut out or tried to an emergency hop with the Vortex Manipulator, missing his aim by a few meters and necessitating the dramatic run.
i think the link is clear but for me is evident that the people behind both shows just did not talk about where the Tardis would land, inside or outside, simply, just that, you know
Andrewnuva199 there's actually a third entrance into the Hub. It leads in from an underground car park into the Torchwood armoury, it's also where they kept the SUV. Maybe that was where Jack came from?
Based on where Jack was running from, he couldn't of used the secret lift, as that would of placed him right next to the water tower. The underground car-park is possible, but having been to Cardiff enough times, you really get a feeling for the city, and there are no roads in the direction Jack ran from, making it unlikely. Jack must of come out of the main entrance, as it's the closest one to where we see him running from. Maybe the Tardis materialised directly on top of the lift, and so the wind was created through that, or maybe due to being directly on a recently active space-time rift it makes the wind more intense
I’m guessing that Jack used the main entrance to the Hub, but instead of using the lift (as the rest of the team must’ve been using it at the time and would’ve seen jack if he had used it) he used the set of stairs beside the lift that were shown in Day One to go through the tourist office
He probably had stuff packed a bag and hid it just incase the doctor came back, after all he had the doctors hand as a sort of tracking device it isn't unreasonable to assume he packed stuff away.
Jack returning to Doctor Who for 3 episodes after Torchwood's first series is kind of like someone who goes back to visit his old workmates on his days off from his current employment. Like something I do on my days off from work.
I only started watching Torchwood because of this video. Finished today. That was fucking great I'm stunned by how dark some of that shit was while still being in the Dr who universe
@@oliverarmitage1966 Also Martha since she brought the watch The Master's attention. They could have fixed the ship and been gone and he would have died of old age.
"Somethings taken him. Jack's gone." Lass. Jack bearhugged a time machine and the time machine flew off to the end of time trying to violently shake him off. Nodbody took anybody.
Those were the peachy young days of Modern Doctor Who back when David Tennant played the Doctor and when there were two spin off TV shows that were Torchwood and the Sarah Jane Adventures bitches 👍
Kanashimi435 “The Doctor” never appeared in a single episode of Torchwood except for that last scene in the last episode of the first season where you can hear the Tardis in the background of the scene beach 👍
This was very well done! I came into these shows backwards, as I watched Torchwood first, found out it was a spin-off to Doctor Who, and then watched DW. 😊
love this! however always thought there was a discontinuity between the Torchwood s1 outtro and the Doctor Who s3 Utopia intro as the torchwood scene seems to imply air displacement/wind like the tardis materialises inside the hub blowing papers around...even Owen comments about how they "thought we tidied up in here..." where as in DW it materializes in the plaza above the hub outside... doesnt quite jive. still awesome edit making the best of both...the back and forth cross cutting really makes it work. thanks for this.
Its because the Torchwood stuff was shot months before they new how things were gonna be done in utopia, so in Torchwood they ran with the assumption that the Tardis would materialise in the Hub and jack would leave the hand, the doctor taking him back willingly and perhaps intentionally. However when it came to Doctor Who they changed it to where jack DID take the hand and was not taken willingly with the Tardis materialising outside the Hub.
Except for the fact that you can *see* Jack running across the plaza - notice the thing moving really fast between 3:07 and 3:10? - and the TARDIS *in* the plaza. Pause at 3:08 and it's at the top right hand corner, about to vanish off screen due to the zoom out - pretty good.
Actually, turn up the video quality to 1080p, and the "running" spot is actually a random couple, and the TARDIS-like shape just seems to be a map directory sign or something.
I’m sure landing in Cardiff on the rift and soaking up the energy would take at least a few minutes. These guys land - Doc sees Jack running towards TARDIS - and then they’re off! That’s barely any time to fucking take a piss 😂😂
A couple of continuity issues, but that couldn't be helped without heavy editing (removing the jar with the Doctor's hand), and how Jack blew past the team, despite having to have gone through the main exit. Unless he did a small jump with the vortex manipulator... Nevertheless, this was edited together very well, and the mistakes weren't your fault.
This is incorrect since the Doctors Hand is still in the Torchwood base even though Jack had the hand on him in the Future Kind episode, you can see it is still there at 3:05 on the left side.
This is actually incredible. Could easily have gone in the real episodes with no doubt. Your editing skill is very, very impressive, or atleast your knack at impersonating BBC editors :)
It was always clear that in Torchwood, the Tardis was arriving inside. But in Doctor Who, they oddly changed it to outside. Some consistency between shows would have been good
I hate the inconsistencies in the two shows regarding this scene. In torchwood the hand was left there and it seemed like the yard is was supposed to materialize inside the hub. In dw jack took the hand with him outside to the tardis
DanielRichards644 there’s huge continuity problems with it. Clearly it was meant to be that the Doctor turned up at the hub and took Jack, but then it was changed for Doctor Who. The big issue is there’s two ways out of the hub - the waterfall or the main entrance down by the water. From where Jack was running in DW, he took the main entrance to get out, but in TW Gwen specifically asked the team if they’d seen Jack on their way in, and they said no. And even if he took the waterfall lift, he’d end up right beside the TARDIS, not a distance away from it.
Its because the Torchwood stuff was shot months before they new how things were gonna be done in utopia, so in Torchwood they ran with the assumption that the Tardis would materialise in the Hub and jack would leave the hand, the doctor taking him back willingly and perhaps intentionally. However when it came to Doctor Who they changed it to where jack DID take the hand and was not taken willingly with the Tardis materialising outside the Hub.
This was really well done! The timing is slightly off though, at 3:06 when they're pulling the camera back over the plaza you can see a small speck sprinting from one end to the other to match Jack's movement in Dr. Who. Crazy attention to detail!
AWESOME! But why, oh why did we never get to see the TARDIS actually materialise INSIDE the Torchwood Hub (before the Hub was destroyed in "Children of Earth")? A few years later (after "The Stolen Earth"/"Journey's End"), we got to see the TARDIS materialise in Sarah Jane's attic in SJA. The TARDIS inside the Hub would've made an awesome crossover image between Torchwood and Doctor Who.
@@Blox248 Class seemed slightly violent at times like Torchwood. But anyways, if they ever brought Torchwood back for one last series, I'd love it if the Doctor and the TARDIS would somehow appear, especially if it was in the final episode.
The Doctor never appears in Torchwood, he is however directly referenced in a couple episodes, he is far from ignored. Hell technically you see his severed hand all through the first season.
Well he’d be able to hear it either way, Mickey and Jackie both react to how loud it is at the end of Series 1 and the Christmas Invasion. As for the wind thats a bit more awkward but perhaps it just causes wind everywhere around it and the hub is only just separated by a little bit on concrete. Maybe the range of influence is included.
This is a nice edit, but wouldn't you put the aerial shot of Jack running to the TARDIS from Torchwood in parallel with the closeup shots of Jack running to the TARDIS from Doctor Who.
Its stange knowing that in the DR who universe, stuff like the 456 happens or even things like Oswald Danes. Or the catastrophe of miracle day. Alot of the time you would almost forget the 2 series are connected. But then you see things like that. the Dr.s reference at the end of children of earth has to be the most haunting moment of either of the series really. Immagine if the Dr knowed about the 456.
Can we just take a moment to appreciate how loyal Jack is to The Doctor, he waited hundreds of years to be reunited with him despite The Doctor being a bit of a dick 😂
He kept his hand for god sakes
I mean he said he wanted to kill the doctor back in the 19th century
The right kind of doctor line always gets me, because you know no matter how much he thought it was a bad idea. You know if the doctor was there and told him to open it he wouldn't of hesitated or questioned it
it isn't nice how the tenth treats jack but he already explains this in utopia - Jack is immortal and can never travel with him because the tardis and jack are not compatible. went all the way to the end of the universe to shake him off 😂
@@lui5rivera I cant remember for sure, but i dont know if we the viewer, knew that Rose had brought Jack back forever. But the Doctor knew. And wanted to avoid him. (For whatever reason). Didnt maybe have the desire to explain Jack to Martha, plus the "100 Trillion Year in the future" Trip they were unexpectedly heading on, but have gave the Doctor Pause in that moment.
Thats how i felt on the second runthrough. I think on the first though, i was just asking myself
"wait, why are you leaving Jack out there Doctor....he could die or get lost in time somewhere?"
Utopia i think, ismy favorite episode. The way the Master slowly gets revealed. The music. The tone. So good.
I wonder how Eric Roberts became Professor Yana. All that in between story. If it was covered in a book or something. That would be cool.
Would have been hilarious if they added Jack clinging onto the TARDIS for the intro
John and David joked about this, that's why the "Humans, humans are coming" scene was added, do split up the titles and the vortex scene
they should have
definitely should have.
@@craigmcfly thank you for this
thank you for that pmsl
The tonal difference is amazing. Jack is so serious in Torchwood and clinging to the Tardis through the vortex in Who
In Torchwood he has to lead the team and make the hard decisions. He's trying to be like The Doctor but he's not had the life of a Time-Lord and isn't as well-prepared. In Doctor Who, he can finally relax and let somebody else make the hard decisions. The differencr isnt actually that strong, he does make a lot of the same kinds of jokes in the same situations in both shows, he just makes more jokes in Doctor Who.
I love how the Doctor says “the rift’s been active”, referring to the finale of Torchwood Season 1
So basically the tardis is like “AAAHH GET IT OFF, GET IT OFF!!!!!!!”
And Jack's all "Let me in! LEMME IIIIIIIIIN!!!"
Pretty much yeah
yup the Tardis was literally actually trying to shake him off, thats why it went to the end of the Universe.
I just had a visual of Jack being a spider and the TARDIS being someone afraid of spiders. Running around screaming "GET IT OFF!!!"
What is Torchwood I don’t get it I’m new to Doctor who
Imagine how mindblowing it would have been if this had been the actual scene in the season finale.
yeah, we jump all the way to the end of series 3 before episode 1 released, would be awesome
@@Surfboarder4 Uhh, what? That doesn't make sense.
@@keelanbarron928 It does. Series 1 of Torchwood ended before Series 3 of Who began.
@@neetuverma1726 Well I mean... Yes, this is edited together from the Season Finale of Torchwood and "Utopia" from Doctor Who Series 3.
The girl who waited: Amy.
The boy who waited: Rory.
The man who waited: Jack.
No no the handsome bisexual immortal
The other girl who waited: Bill (stuck on the Mondasian ship for ten years).
The woman who lived: Ashilder
The one who waits: Sutekh
Anyone else find it weird Torchwood was always HD and it was even before Doctor Who was?
Doctor Who resisted because the workflow was pretty different in HD, and the old 9/10 tardis interior would've looked pretty rough in HD. That's what I've always read
@@SuperMarioDrumming, oh wow, I never knew that. Personally I think the Interior looked fine, both, in the 2009 specials and that 50th anniversary.
Well, TW in my opinion does look kind of worse than DW. It does have an efffect of looking less "cuddly", as being an adult oriented show.
I mean I'm pretty sure it was all filmed in HD obviously, just not broadcast in HD
Wibbly wobbly timey wimey
Weird how Torchwood seems to give the impression that the Tardis materialized inside the hub.
Its because the Torchwood stuff was shot months before they new how things were gonna be done in utopia, so in Torchwood they ran with the assumption that the Tardis would materialise in the Hub and jack would leave the hand, the doctor taking him back willingly and perhaps intentionally. However when it came to Doctor Who they changed it to where jack DID take the hand and was not taken willingly with the Tardis materialising outside the Hub.
it was probably the tardis landing on the hubs lift, sending air down into the Hub, it also explains why Jack didnt just simply use the lift because the tardis would be the exit
In the last scene if you look closely at the aerial shot, you can see jack running to the TARDIS.
That’s probably what people thought the first time they watched it: the Tardis materialised around Jack inside the Torchwood Hub and then dematerialised.
@@1927deano oh shit you can! I never noticed that
They should of done this in that Torchwood episode
I think it would've made more sense to keep the ending we got in Torchwood. Then, use this at the start the Utopia Doctor Who episode.
Torchwood was filmed in 2006 so it’s very likely the doctor who footage hadn’t been shot yet
tylerx2f01 actually it was Russel T Davies who didn’t want the Doctor appearing on Torchwood
Shame. I always saw it as a missed-opprotunity that The Doctor never appeared in Torchwood.
But, I understand the reasoning behind it. (I myself, made it through about 7 episodes of Torchwood, when I was only about 11-years-old, before I stopped... And never really came-back.)
Hey, if anyone's interested, I'm reviewing all the Doctor Who stories on my channel, with me just having uploaded my review of: 'The Green Death (1973)!' No pressure, of-course; It just might be worth checking-out! :)
When you hear people saying "should of," they are really saying "should've" which is a contraction of "should," and "have."
This is really well done. If you watch the Torchwood ending the Tardis clearly materialised inside the Hub, not above it, but you've got around that well with good editing.
*Sees Jack running towards the TARDIS*
Doctor: NOPE!
Edit: how the heck did I get 1.5k likes for this????
also love how the doctor casually kills jack too XD
I'm the 50th who liked your comment and you're definitely right!
Nope.😆
Hi
The doctor is mean to jack
I think he's just terrified Jack might say "Hello" to HIM oneday.
In the Torchwood ending when the camera zooms out you can see the jar with the Doctor's hand even though in Utopia it is shown that Jack has taken it with him
Their were two jars other one empty
i never caught that....
There is more than one jar there
And that hand ended up being very important.
Its because the Torchwood stuff was shot months before they new how things were gonna be done in utopia, so in Torchwood they ran with the assumption that the Tardis would materialise in the Hub and jack would leave the hand, the doctor taking him back willingly and perhaps intentionally. However when it came to Doctor Who they changed it to where jack DID take the hand and was not taken willingly with the Tardis materialising outside the Hub.
Would’ve been amazing if this was how Torchwood actually ended. Imagine how mind blowin it would’ve been
what if jack had never clung to the tardis and therefore the tardis never had to fly to the end of the universie in an effort to get rid of him. would professor Yana have just died as a human never knowing he was the master?
Solonduin then we miss missy and whatever happen in series 12 spoilers if you have seen new year or tonight episode but the master back
He wouldnt have died as a human, the universe would have ended which would mean the master died at a time of not knowing who he was but he would have also live for how ever many years before that which means from a story telling perspective SPOILER ALERT! Harold saxon, missy and Oh could have still happened
if we never went to the end of the Universe then the writers would just have found another way to bring back the Master, if they never wrote him as being Professor Yana then he never would have died because the character never existed.
Doctor Who is a show about time travel. If you play the "what if" game, you're actually writing new stories and messing with all that has "actually happened".
Also, "You can't apply logic to Who!" - Matt Smith.
Then 10 would have never regenerated because the Master would have never been alive to (inadvertently) help Rassilon bring back the timelords and Gallifrey. Wilford never gets stuck. 😋
how does no one look at the tardis disappearing, i mean surely a man going "DOOOCTTTOOOOOOR" holding on to the outside of it while it vworps off would draw someones attention...but hey, i guess we british just dont wanna make a fuss
The lift from the hub to the surface is built on a blind spot caused by the TARDIS in series 1. Nobody notices anything there unless their attention is brought to that spot. Assuming the Doctor always parks in that same spot, which would explain why Jack didn't use the lift, then people might hear someone shouting, look around for the source and simply look past the dematerialising blue box with a man hanging off it like it's not even there.
@@wendyheatherwood people saw the weird guy running and shouting and then he stopped and they just thought "finally"
Perfectly normal behaviour in Cardiff Bay 😂
Strange guy running and shouting doctor would get some eyes upon Jack. But the Tardis is another matter, the perception filter stops anyone from noticing anything strange.
Perception filter. The answer is people ignore it because of a perception filter.
I wish they would bring Jack back. I liked him
(Edit) Yes I know he's back. Please stop saying it :P I've already had like 20 people comment that on this
there were rumours that he was actually meant to be in the "a good man go to war" episode but it never ended up happening unfortunately
His storyline was nicely finished up with the Face of Bo though. Don't need to bring him back.
TheRedstoneBlaze the good man goes to war story line was actually how he was meant to become the face of boe. he was meant to be beheaded by the headless monks
@@benjimanfranco463 to bad Miracle Day makes beheading meaningless as we see he will just come back together and heal.
DanielRichards644 that's true but as we saw with the headless monks and dorium, the guy was technically still living but as a head. So who knows. Either way it's dr who so anything can happen tbh 😂
In the Torchwood parts, don't you have the impression that the Tardis is comming into the building of Torchwwod, and not at the outside ??
It looks like a jump-cut between the both series and it has always made me doubt the real connection between the two ... But there is no other explanation.
Considering the Hub has the two main entrances, the logical idea would be Jack had a mechanism to quickly pack up the hand for travel, then took the lift back up to the plaza at a high speed or something (or however long the sequence took relative to Gwen checking in on Jack). Doesn't look like the TARDIS landed on top of it. Failing that, either Jack had a third shortcut out or tried to an emergency hop with the Vortex Manipulator, missing his aim by a few meters and necessitating the dramatic run.
i think the link is clear but for me is evident that the people behind both shows just did not talk about where the Tardis would land, inside or outside, simply, just that, you know
Andrewnuva199 there's actually a third entrance into the Hub. It leads in from an underground car park into the Torchwood armoury, it's also where they kept the SUV. Maybe that was where Jack came from?
Based on where Jack was running from, he couldn't of used the secret lift, as that would of placed him right next to the water tower. The underground car-park is possible, but having been to Cardiff enough times, you really get a feeling for the city, and there are no roads in the direction Jack ran from, making it unlikely. Jack must of come out of the main entrance, as it's the closest one to where we see him running from. Maybe the Tardis materialised directly on top of the lift, and so the wind was created through that, or maybe due to being directly on a recently active space-time rift it makes the wind more intense
I’m guessing that Jack used the main entrance to the Hub, but instead of using the lift (as the rest of the team must’ve been using it at the time and would’ve seen jack if he had used it) he used the set of stairs beside the lift that were shown in Day One to go through the tourist office
I’ve only just noticed how fast jack must of packed but I suppose that explains the mess
Nah when the Tardis demats it blows things around
I don’t think the Torchwood writers knew how Jack went with the Doctor. The TW episode implies that the TARDIS picked him up.
ik that but i was making a joke because of the mess
He probably had stuff packed a bag and hid it just incase the doctor came back, after all he had the doctors hand as a sort of tracking device it isn't unreasonable to assume he packed stuff away.
Tom Slater I mean the Torchwood elevator isn't the fastest thing in the world and grab a bag and go out that thing in that time
Jack returning to Doctor Who for 3 episodes after Torchwood's first series is kind of like someone who goes back to visit his old workmates on his days off from his current employment. Like something I do on my days off from work.
I only started watching Torchwood because of this video. Finished today. That was fucking great I'm stunned by how dark some of that shit was while still being in the Dr who universe
Wouldn't Captain Jack be the indirect cause of the masters return
Halo Galaxy and the things in death in heaven and the Doctor falls
Could say that Bad wolf is the indirect cause of the master's return
@@oliverarmitage1966 Also Martha since she brought the watch The Master's attention. They could have fixed the ship and been gone and he would have died of old age.
@@oliverarmitage1966 could say that the empty child is the indirect cause of the master's return
@@hereswolfy6918 You could say who ever invented Nanogenes is the indirect cause if the Master's return.
"Somethings taken him. Jack's gone."
Lass. Jack bearhugged a time machine and the time machine flew off to the end of time trying to violently shake him off. Nodbody took anybody.
Doctor "We're going to the end of the universe!"
Zaphod: "I know a great restaurant!"
I love that the Torchwood theme cameos in the Doctor Who scene
Dang it's so good to see the full clip. In retrospect. So cool
Can we just appreciate Jack's jump timing, one second is all it took for him to jump face first onto the pavement
"I was a different man"
Tenth clutches his ear
get it? cuz Ninth had big ears!
I never actually noticed that before!
Those were the peachy young days of Modern Doctor Who back when David Tennant played the Doctor and when there were two spin off TV shows that were Torchwood and the Sarah Jane Adventures bitches 👍
Kanashimi435 “The Doctor” never appeared in a single episode of Torchwood except for that last scene in the last episode of the first season where you can hear the Tardis in the background of the scene beach 👍
This was very well done! I came into these shows backwards, as I watched Torchwood first, found out it was a spin-off to Doctor Who, and then watched DW. 😊
0:15 at first I didn't think that was his chair
no no no how can you stop before the whole 'my tardis is a ferrari and you time watch is a second hand postie bike" bit (i paraphrase of course)
love this! however always thought there was a discontinuity between the Torchwood s1 outtro and the Doctor Who s3 Utopia intro as the torchwood scene seems to imply air displacement/wind like the tardis materialises inside the hub blowing papers around...even Owen comments about how they "thought we tidied up in here..." where as in DW it materializes in the plaza above the hub outside... doesnt quite jive. still awesome edit making the best of both...the back and forth cross cutting really makes it work. thanks for this.
Jack packed a massive ass bag in a few seconds, could've created a lot of that mess
Its because the Torchwood stuff was shot months before they new how things were gonna be done in utopia, so in Torchwood they ran with the assumption that the Tardis would materialise in the Hub and jack would leave the hand, the doctor taking him back willingly and perhaps intentionally. However when it came to Doctor Who they changed it to where jack DID take the hand and was not taken willingly with the Tardis materialising outside the Hub.
Oooh nothing took Jack, Jack caught a ride, one HELL of a ride!
Seamless. Well done!
as a kid i was always wondering why Jack was randomly in Cardiff, makes so much more sense now that i've watched torchwood
I love how David Tennant says "BLEEDS"
Nice! It makes it all so much clearer for both series!
Honestly supposed they didn’t add Jack attached to the TARDIS in the intro
Thank you for making this, this is beautiful
Except for the fact that you can *see* Jack running across the plaza - notice the thing moving really fast between 3:07 and 3:10? - and the TARDIS *in* the plaza. Pause at 3:08 and it's at the top right hand corner, about to vanish off screen due to the zoom out - pretty good.
Masterfully edited together. I'd love to see you do more like this.
always bugged me that he didn't go up the tourist entrance 🤣 then again it was pretty slow 💀
More like "Jack finds the Doctor and takes a literal flying leap to cling on to the annoyed TARDIS inadvertently hitching a ride."
at 3:09 you can see Jack running to the TARDIS so u need to look closely
No you can't? Where's the TARDIS?
Actually, turn up the video quality to 1080p, and the "running" spot is actually a random couple, and the TARDIS-like shape just seems to be a map directory sign or something.
Isn't the TARDIS by the waterfall thing, I can't see anything there! ?
You’re right!
That’s just a person, they’re going in the wrong direction.
I’m sure landing in Cardiff on the rift and soaking up the energy would take at least a few minutes.
These guys land - Doc sees Jack running towards TARDIS - and then they’re off!
That’s barely any time to fucking take a piss 😂😂
Well to be fair, if the Tardis is basically their home, I doubt that would be an issue, so hey, maybe she does fill up quick
A couple of continuity issues, but that couldn't be helped without heavy editing (removing the jar with the Doctor's hand), and how Jack blew past the team, despite having to have gone through the main exit. Unless he did a small jump with the vortex manipulator...
Nevertheless, this was edited together very well, and the mistakes weren't your fault.
And so, Russell T. Davies secretly got the Doctor on Torchwood.
PFFT! Jack let one go 15 seconds in.
Ha Ha Ha.
That was brilliant!
I forgot they mentioned Boom Town in this episode.
And how the Doctor says its lifetimes yet claims as 11 to still only be in his 900s.
A Skeleton It would be nice to see 10 realise he fucked up with Harriet Jones.
In response to the description, you're right, I've definitely imagined this...and it's perfect, well done!
I love how the doctor says about the rift being active, as if you’ve watched End Of Days the rift had a massive part in it.
It would've been cool if they edited this into Utopia or made it a "Last Time..." segment.
Totally underrated show
Could have done without the everyone fucking everyone storylines and more Jack flirting with everyone instead of just boning the one guy.
1:39 LLAMO The doctor: NOPE! U ain’t getting onboard!
This is incorrect since the Doctors Hand is still in the Torchwood base even though Jack had the hand on him in the Future Kind episode, you can see it is still there at 3:05 on the left side.
It's a retcon that and the tardis originally landing in the hub
So now that the new episodes are out it begs the questions did sutek notice Jack hanging on to the tardis 😂
1:41 the doctor had that look of “oh fuck its him”😂😂
This edit works so well. Nicely done!
Really good edit tbh...
Gwen: Have you seen Jack?
Ianto: He's just in the set next door to us.
So really the correct way to watch the series would be series 1 of Torchwood then the Utopia 3-parter then series 2. Pretty cool.
this is amazing omg
such a good edit!
mcu could never!!!! love this ❤❤❤
When the Doctor says the Rift's been active, is he referencing Abbadon?
Oh I remember those scenes. Loved them. ❤👍😜
seamless editing my fellow youtuber nicely done
Thank you so mega much for this you have made my week your awesome have a great day.
I wish they bring back torchwood and Captain Jack
big finish
*Infuses with the hand of the doctor to draw them into Aegis Emporia with an Aeonic Bond. Finishing with a temporal lock.*
Oh absolutely brilliant!!!
Watched that very episode of Torchwood today
This is actually incredible. Could easily have gone in the real episodes with no doubt. Your editing skill is very, very impressive, or atleast your knack at impersonating BBC editors :)
"the rifts been active" 1:12
never understood til i saw torchwood
Fantastic! Very well done indeed!
It was always clear that in Torchwood, the Tardis was arriving inside. But in Doctor Who, they oddly changed it to outside. Some consistency between shows would have been good
It was originally going to land in the hub and torchwood was filmed first before series 3
I hate the inconsistencies in the two shows regarding this scene. In torchwood the hand was left there and it seemed like the yard is was supposed to materialize inside the hub. In dw jack took the hand with him outside to the tardis
Yeah series 3 retconed it
Nice edit! Came out real clean!
This is how they should've ended the actual episode. Love it. Great editing.
The problem with this is the continuity, there is wind blowing in the base like as if the Tardis landed inside not up above on the surface.
DanielRichards644 there’s huge continuity problems with it. Clearly it was meant to be that the Doctor turned up at the hub and took Jack, but then it was changed for Doctor Who. The big issue is there’s two ways out of the hub - the waterfall or the main entrance down by the water. From where Jack was running in DW, he took the main entrance to get out, but in TW Gwen specifically asked the team if they’d seen Jack on their way in, and they said no. And even if he took the waterfall lift, he’d end up right beside the TARDIS, not a distance away from it.
Its because the Torchwood stuff was shot months before they new how things were gonna be done in utopia, so in Torchwood they ran with the assumption that the Tardis would materialise in the Hub and jack would leave the hand, the doctor taking him back willingly and perhaps intentionally. However when it came to Doctor Who they changed it to where jack DID take the hand and was not taken willingly with the Tardis materialising outside the Hub.
This was really well done! The timing is slightly off though, at 3:06 when they're pulling the camera back over the plaza you can see a small speck sprinting from one end to the other to match Jack's movement in Dr. Who. Crazy attention to detail!
Now it’s confirmed that the only two people who can survive the Time Vortex are Jack and the Cameraman
I still can't believe the doctor just NOPEd outta there when he saw jack like wtf why
Why is the most viewed moment of the video is Jack in the vortex?
HMMMMM I WONDER
Probably because it looks cool🙃
greatly done. kudos.
AWESOME! But why, oh why did we never get to see the TARDIS actually materialise INSIDE the Torchwood Hub (before the Hub was destroyed in "Children of Earth")? A few years later (after "The Stolen Earth"/"Journey's End"), we got to see the TARDIS materialise in Sarah Jane's attic in SJA. The TARDIS inside the Hub would've made an awesome crossover image between Torchwood and Doctor Who.
because they didn't want to encourage children to watch Torchwood by having The Doctor appear in it.
@@Blox248 And yet the Doctor appeared in SJA and the first episode of Class even though that only lasted 8 episodes.
@@AndrewChapman Yes, but those were meant for younger audiences. Torchwood was not.
@@Blox248 Class seemed slightly violent at times like Torchwood. But anyways, if they ever brought Torchwood back for one last series, I'd love it if the Doctor and the TARDIS would somehow appear, especially if it was in the final episode.
The Doctor never appears in Torchwood, he is however directly referenced in a couple episodes, he is far from ignored. Hell technically you see his severed hand all through the first season.
"The right kind of DOOCTOOOOORRRRRR!!!!!!" 😄
Great edit
I'm pretty sure the TARDIS was originally meant to land in the base. That's why he hears it, he randomly disappears and there's mess everywhere.
Well he’d be able to hear it either way, Mickey and Jackie both react to how loud it is at the end of Series 1 and the Christmas Invasion.
As for the wind thats a bit more awkward but perhaps it just causes wind everywhere around it and the hub is only just separated by a little bit on concrete. Maybe the range of influence is included.
This is amazing
You really need to make more ❤️❤️
2:27
*DOOOCTOOOORRRR!!!!!*
This is a nice edit, but wouldn't you put the aerial shot of Jack running to the TARDIS from Torchwood in parallel with the closeup shots of Jack running to the TARDIS from Doctor Who.
This is simple but I love it
Wow. Well done.
Perfect.
Brilliant work!!! Earned a sub!
Its stange knowing that in the DR who universe, stuff like the 456 happens or even things like Oswald Danes. Or the catastrophe of miracle day. Alot of the time you would almost forget the 2 series are connected. But then you see things like that. the Dr.s reference at the end of children of earth has to be the most haunting moment of either of the series really. Immagine if the Dr knowed about the 456.