The only concern I have right now is that pumping volume will be much lower than a ram pump, as shown it will only pump about 60 gallons a day. I can only speed it up so much (to be tested). And you're welcome for the shout-out, you make great content and your success will help me too.
@@JoeMalovich The volume of water available is what will determine the amount of water that can be pumped. If you make the bucket fill faster by feeding it more, you will cut the amount pumped by the same amount and end up at the same or less pumped in a day. There is a balance point.
Your video has inspired me to create a low head pressure pump. I'm thinking I can use a wider catchment bucket And then use an auto siphon to pull out the water. It would be slower but could potentially have more water pressing down in a small vertical space
you could also try a auto syphon air compressor. this works because the syphon gobbles air when it breaks and later this air is pushed downwards by the flow and can be catched in a underwater bell at the outlet. i got this working with two small hoses but i cant test it with bigger hoses. would definetely like to see my idea on youtube
Thought: What if instead of a bellows pump, you used a hydraulic ram? You might be able to take advantage of more of the motion of the see-saw to pump a longer stroke? Also, you could have another ram on the opposite side to take advantage of the counter-weight back swing? Lastly, could you set it up to pump from the 'pool' created by the bucket dumping, so there isn't water loss (at least not a big one) in the system?
Hi there just a quick one to suggest if you extend the distance from the bello to the bucket you can reduce the water usage or increase the pump pressure
Ok, I get it now. What width of the valves do you use 1" or 3/4"? I can see that your input pipe is narrower than your output pipe. Wouldn't it be better the opposite? I am wondering if it is ok to use 1" guts for valves and T-part and 3/4" for output pipe.
I have some limited testing with the the bell siphon and it can be tricky with low flow. But with a good amount of flow could definitely use either an auto u siphon or the bell siphon.
I think its much easier to adjust a mechanical tipping point compared to triggering a bell syphon at the correct time. To obtain maximum water pressure from the air spring, i think it would be better to have a mechanism that releases the bucket when its full of water. This will provide the maximum amount of force on the bellows.compared to the gradual filling of the bucket. The latch/release mechanism could be a simple float operating a sliding pin. The pin would need to be spring loaded and angled on its top edge to automatically latch when the bucket is raised back to its starting position.
thats fascinating! you could make some form of piston system (pumping perhaps) so you could drive small machines or even a reserve feed for the turbine (somehow!) i cant wait to see what you make with this! (im not an engineer but could you make some form of kinetic generator? (eg, movement generates electricity)) once your the master of this, the options are endless imho!
So, I like this design, it works. Could be better for sure but for a rough start it's great. Thinking though that an electric pump could work better. Wonder what it would take to run as much water as this does though.
Please look up the Australian “Bunneyip pump" like th-cam.com/video/FHJmYeFkJU8/w-d-xo.html Works in the same way. Low head, high lift and little hammering as with Ram Pumps.
Sorry. Got halfway through and still had no idea what you had built, what or how it was doing anything. Just that you have a lot of pipes that are fed from a spring and dump water on your daughter.
The pump consists of the bellows and 2 check valves. The wooden beam is effectively a class 2 lever that compresses the bellows, pushing water up the delivery pipe. Water is drawn into the bellows (pump) via the check valve as the lever arm rises. The bucket of water on the end of the arm supplies the force needed to pull the arm down.
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Thanks for the shout out! Really interesting. The ram pump min functioning head is 3 feet. So any pumping under that is great!
The only concern I have right now is that pumping volume will be much lower than a ram pump, as shown it will only pump about 60 gallons a day. I can only speed it up so much (to be tested).
And you're welcome for the shout-out, you make great content and your success will help me too.
@@JoeMalovich The volume of water available is what will determine the amount of water that can be pumped. If you make the bucket fill faster by feeding it more, you will cut the amount pumped by the same amount and end up at the same or less pumped in a day. There is a balance point.
Your video has inspired me to create a low head pressure pump. I'm thinking I can use a wider catchment bucket And then use an auto siphon to pull out the water. It would be slower but could potentially have more water pressing down in a small vertical space
you could also try a auto syphon air compressor. this works because the syphon gobbles air when it breaks and later this air is pushed downwards by the flow and can be catched in a underwater bell at the outlet. i got this working with two small hoses but i cant test it with bigger hoses. would definetely like to see my idea on youtube
Very good idea but what is the arrangement ? The is shown working, what and what are the materials that make pump.
Thought: What if instead of a bellows pump, you used a hydraulic ram? You might be able to take advantage of more of the motion of the see-saw to pump a longer stroke? Also, you could have another ram on the opposite side to take advantage of the counter-weight back swing? Lastly, could you set it up to pump from the 'pool' created by the bucket dumping, so there isn't water loss (at least not a big one) in the system?
Make a bunyip pump and show us, would be great
Lovely heath Robinson prototype. Pressure amplifier. I'm inspired to try one for my place
i would like to see a cascade of these that dump into each other
Those bending boards were giving me anxiety haha, kept worrying it was gonna snap over you or your kid!
Hi there just a quick one to suggest if you extend the distance from the bello to the bucket you can reduce the water usage or increase the pump pressure
how about a middle lever
Hi Joe, your pump is marvelous! What do you have in that black rubber bellows - water or air?
Water
@@JoeMalovich I thought so but the doubt was because you kept calling it an air spring.
@@gondebas they are meant for air but screw the rules
@@JoeMalovich How have you blocked the top hole of the bellows? Assuming of course that there were two holes in your bellows.
Ok, I get it now. What width of the valves do you use 1" or 3/4"? I can see that your input pipe is narrower than your output pipe. Wouldn't it be better the opposite? I am wondering if it is ok to use 1" guts for valves and T-part and 3/4" for output pipe.
What's the purpose of this?
Making water flow uphill.
does it matter? the resulting things once perfected could be many (and endless)
To passively pump water up hill from a creek that doesn't go down hill much.
To soak the kid...
To make water travel uphill without the use of electricity.
Instead of a tipping bucket you could use a bell siphon to empty the bucket.
I have some limited testing with the the bell siphon and it can be tricky with low flow. But with a good amount of flow could definitely use either an auto u siphon or the bell siphon.
@@LandtoHouse ironically you can start a bell siphon with a shishi odoshi too. Land To House has a video on this.
@@JoeMalovich Land To House does have a video on that.
I think its much easier to adjust a mechanical tipping point compared to triggering a bell syphon at the correct time. To obtain maximum water pressure from the air spring, i think it would be better to have a mechanism that releases the bucket when its full of water. This will provide the maximum amount of force on the bellows.compared to the gradual filling of the bucket. The latch/release mechanism could be a simple float operating a sliding pin. The pin would need to be spring loaded and angled on its top edge to automatically latch when the bucket is raised back to its starting position.
thats fascinating! you could make some form of piston system (pumping perhaps) so you could drive small machines or even a reserve feed for the turbine (somehow!)
i cant wait to see what you make with this! (im not an engineer but could you make some form of kinetic generator? (eg, movement generates electricity))
once your the master of this, the options are endless imho!
Reupload?
I think the TH-cam term is Deja View.
@j d :D
So, I like this design, it works. Could be better for sure but for a rough start it's great.
Thinking though that an electric pump could work better. Wonder what it would take to run as much water as this does though.
i think one of the major points of the pump is so that it does not require electricity.
@@OwenHeh I think that's the only point lol
@@sonicmouse3083 i mean it also requires less head than a ram pump so thats another point to me
If you use the dumped water instead of the couterweight to lift the arm, it should be more efficient
Fun and interesting project
Cool stuff
Why all that noisepollution in the background? Disturbing!
I've since moved to somewhere much much much more quiet.
Please look up the Australian “Bunneyip pump" like th-cam.com/video/FHJmYeFkJU8/w-d-xo.html Works in the same way. Low head, high lift and little hammering as with Ram Pumps.
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Sorry. Got halfway through and still had no idea what you had built, what or how it was doing anything.
Just that you have a lot of pipes that are fed from a spring and dump water on your daughter.
The pump consists of the bellows and 2 check valves. The wooden beam is effectively a class 2 lever that compresses the bellows, pushing water up the delivery pipe. Water is drawn into the bellows (pump) via the check valve as the lever arm rises. The bucket of water on the end of the arm supplies the force needed to pull the arm down.
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