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This is a bit different version of something called the "ram pump". Works on exactly the same principle and if you search for it, many people made clips on how they build their own.
As someone with an interest in aquatics I’m currently researching ways to run things more cost effectively and as conservatively as possible. This looks like a possible solution for running a constant circulation in a pond or aquarium. I’m trying to theorize if it’s possible to find a way to capture the wasted vented water on the up cycle so as not to empty out the aquarium. Maybe by encapsulating the valve in larger bore acting as a return pipe? Or would the pressure of being under water stop it from functioning properly on the up stroke?
@@SirBigzalot Sounds like you are searching for a hydraulic version of a Perpetuum Mobile ;) "Waist water" is not called this at a whim. The water is not "wasted", it is still there, but it's potential/kinetic energy was used to push that small amount higher. If you try to put it in a closed system, it will never run continuously. That's why it is used in open systems with constant fresh water intake to replenish lost energy for pumping.
@@lubricatedgoat cant speak for anyone else but now that the device has been explained and demonstrated to me and I understand the mechanical principle on which it operates I feel fully confident in my ability to reproduce one should the need ever arise.
My grandfather has this on his property and the water lost is collected and then pumped back into the main holding tank he's getting his water from. He told me thats its "basically only 1/4 water loss. If more tanks are added for collection you can go down to 1/8 loss, 1/16 loss and so on with enough tanks and slopes." He uses this pump for his house plumbing. its pumped into a make-shift water tower then gravity fed into his home to maintain water pressure. Pretty awesome
@@JuneAtHomePHno. this pump is basically treading large amount of water flow speed for small amount of water hight. a well do not have a large flow speed so this pump can not be used
Maby it's the same phisics, but people who know about the existance of ram-pump is in vast minority. Personally never knew this was possible. Only knew about ram-jet, much harder to build and get going. Gratitude.
Slightly different in that is doesn't necessarily require **flowing** water, just a height difference between the device and the water source. Could be used in a pond (natural or artificial) which to my understanding is unsuitable for a normal ram pump. Definitely the same method of operation though, you're right about that
Wow the cutaway at 1:56 is excellent! Not sure how long it took you to make but it demonstrates ram pump operation beautifully! Best visual learning aid on yt I’ve seen. Thank you!
Back in the early 2000s, I attempted to build one of these to pump water from my spring box into my garden. I spent nearly $500 for parts because I could not get the damned thing to work, until I read a book by Gene Logsdon which told me what my problem was. For the pump to work you need a *minimum* of three feet (1 meter) vertical height from where your input water is *down* to where the ram pump is, otherwise there simply isn't enough potential energy to run the pump for longer than five minutes or so. Since the springbox down to the bottom of the creek was only two feet, the pump wouldn't work. Instead, I ended up with a 30 watt solar panel and a bilge pump which now pumps water into the garden for irrigation.
Just throwing out some thoughts... Could you raise the containment level of the springbox another 1.5 feet and then have the potential (plus a little extra) to make this breuram/ram pump function?
@@markpetersen912 No. Spring box was made back in the 1940s ? 50s? maybe earlier? and it's solid concrete attached to another spring box that was probably made back in what I suspect was the early 1900s. The whole area was filled in between the two spring boxes which were approximately 40-50 feet apart. The early one had a 6" cast iron pipe linking the two and has rusted to the point that the land between the "new" spring box and the "old" spring box has eroded about 10-15 feet making the whole area sink. It was originally the only way I could get onto the other side of the property without building a bridge over the creek. It's extremely dangerous to go anywhere near there now without the possibility of injury or even death because the drop is about 5 or six feet from the edge to where I "think" the bottom of the creek is. My solar solution works well, however and have used that for nearly 15 years.
@@Zalethon it uses the kinetic energy of flowing water, specifically jerk (that's a change of acceleration over time. Or v/t^2) The pressure spike of all that flowing water screeching to a stop shoves a small amount of water up the yellow hose. Then the valves switch and the water starts moving again to pick up the momentum to do it again.
@@randomstuff1019 Thanks for your explanation; I get how the pump itself works, once it has water flowing into it. The video just didn't make clear how water was being fed to the pump.
Interesting. This seems to be the water equivalent of the boost converter circuit in electronics, which uses a low voltage high current source to produce a high voltage at lower current.
I was thinking the same thing and might have it figured out. The main valve is equivalent to the transistor, the output valve is the diode, and the input pipe is the inductor. The biggest difference is that electrical current doesn't have useful momentum, so the boost converter can't use a passive component (like a spring) to regulate the switching.
@@l3p3 In electronics, the "water" is electrons and most of them indeed don't reach the high voltage level. They "sacrifice" their energy to give the few electrons that make it. These then have higher energy per electron (i.e. voltage)
My dad made one of these for his holiday home before I was born, and it's still in use. I used to know enough about how it worked to change gaskets and water proofing tape, and hopefully my brother still does. I think dad had to change one component at some point, but apart from that... gaskets. Edit: Forgot to mention, i'm 55 years old.
Are you sure it wasn't a ram pump he built? They're similar and do pulse waste water. But last far longer due to alot less moving parts? I only ask because there's one in the Mourne mountains in Ireland that's been running for the last 200 odd years so I know they're much longer lasting.
I have seen several descriptions of how this kind of pump works, but you are the first one to show the trick with the air bubble as a buffer. Well done.
Back in the forties I knew a man who had one of these - quite large and made of cast iron. In those days they used to call it a 'pulsometer'. He lived by a snall hill which had a spring near the top. He used the machine to pump water up to the tank on the roof and the excess water flowed back into the stream. You could hear it clacking a long way off. For a boy of eight it was quite facinating.
This is how the Giza pyramid (blueprint) used to pump water away from the dammed up areas that the Pharaoh's ancestors fled from. Osiris is a water-being (a verison of poseidon) Enki is a water-being, and AztaAtlTlan where the Aztecs claim heritage means "land of water birds". Giza is just the most advanced copy of whatever pump technology coastline people could come up with before all the old coasts inevitably got flooded. There was NO "high technology", - just manipulation of occillations and the knowledge of advantageous erosion that followed, - allowing egyptians to take advantage of possibly a couple thousand years of dam/pumping knowledge from wherever migrants came from. The kings/queens chamber "roof" could be where the original builders let the overflow of the Nile flow into an aqueduct system above ground in order to water their crops, while using the pressurized end of the loop to aid with the cutting of sandstone.
For anyone wondering, the system is using the momentum of the flow to store elastic potential energy in the pipe system, at peak elastic potential, the stored energy is released into the high pressure element and used to move the fluid fractionally within the high pressure system, once the energy is used, the cycle repeats, flow increases, stop engages, energy builds up, is released into high pressure and repeat.
Seems like the loss water could be used for a biological purpose since it is aerated. Possibly a fish/aquaponics farm if dug below the base of the tower?
@@freevbucks8019 wouldn’t be efficient, you would use more energy getting it back in the tank then you saved by using this pump in the first place… The best solution would be to have it spill back out into the river.
Had never heard of this pump before and must admit I came here thinking it was going to be another perpetual motion machine proposed on youtube but instead I found a very cool new pump design I had never heard of, thanks!
These do work and are great for pumping water from a stream or river as they loose about 95% of the water out of the pump. That is before the head becomes an issue. However you still need to drain the waste water and the pump needs to be at least a meter below the surface. Basically almost a syphonable layout height.
If I understand the principles behind this pump correctly, it's basically like a lever, but for lifting a liquid rather than a solid mass. It utilises gravitational potential energy and some basic principles of hydrodynamics (pressure vs. flow) to obtain a mechanical advantage that allows the water to be lifted to an impressive height. Very cool, thanks for sharing this!
It might be easier to explain using water hammer. When the flow is suddenly cut off the moving water “hammers” the other valve open, lifting the water.
Nice job 👍 At 3:46 you are applying your thread tape the hard way, hold the tape roll on your right index finger with the middle running on the outside, now roll off the backside of the tape onto the fitting. This allows simple smooth control of tension and length simultaneously
From an energy standpoint, it seems logical that you can only get at most Δx/Δn of the water up to an elevation, where Δx is the difference in height from the top of the water tank to the pump and Δn is the height above the pump that the water is pumped to.
Once you've brought the water up to a certain height, you can use that to pump less water up to a higher height. Example you can use a simple pump so once the water is 20 feet high, you can use that to operate a pump to raise half the water up to maybe 30 feet high. You end up with less water at the higher height, but you're getting free energy anyway, so it doesn't matter.
@@karljay7473 You don't get free energy from it, since all the energy the rising water gets is transfered from the other water that fell down to the water that's lifted.
@@HenrikMyrhaug How much do you pay for the energy that lifts the water? You pay nothing for it, therefore it's free. You can pump 100 gallons 20 feet for free, then you use that 100 gallons to move 50 gallons to a higher level, maybe 40 feet... You start the process wanting X gallons to be 100 feet, so you move 5X gallons 20 feet, 4X gallons 40 feet, 3X gallons 60 feet, etc... It doesn't cost you any money to move X gallons 100 feet as no electric pumps are being used. Free, in this case, means that you are using nature, just as it doesn't cost you money for water to flow down a hill.
@@karljay7473 Sorry, I thought you meant "free energy" as in generating more energy than the ammount that already exists and is put into the system, which is impossible. You'll definitely get to pump water almost as high as you want without putting more energy into the system than what already exists.
@@HenrikMyrhaug No problem, even the "free" isn't 100% free because you have to build or buy the pump, but once you buy it, it's free to operate. We could have a lot more of these setup in dams all over and generate even more energy.
The cutaway was so awesome. I'll never forget this mechanism now. Beautiful editing work. The build quality of the entire line up the tower and your explanations are perfect!
Another name for this is a Ram Pump. set up is a little different but identical in function.. your switch valve is much nicer and adjustable though... enjoy..
Its basically a ram pump. The use of the tensioner for the main check valve is a brilliant upgrade however. Far more control than a traditional ram pump. If not used for potable drinking purposes many people add an air damper on the pressure hose side right after the check valve in the form of a PVC/Steel tube. Your use of the pressure delivery hose to perform this function is not only resource saving but also resourceful! Great idea!
Hi, in fact there is an air chamber; the big yellow hose contains a bubble of air and acts as the air chamber. But you're right it looks different than most other designs
As many wrote in their comments, water hammer is the force driving the pump. (Change your manual.) Water is incompressible in the actual range of pressure so when the flow stops abruptly the momentum is converted to pressure increase. Water hammer was the noise in the plumbing with copper or steel pipes if you shut a faucet suddenly. Although sometimes a standpipe with air not water would dampen the effect.
I've seen the ram pump and now this, it's super impressive. My friend and I were on his Uncles farm in Cape Town, they have a pump there which I'm still trying to fully wrap my head around. It was not very well explained, but I think I figured it out:P The starting point is about 200 metres away and about 5 metres lower than the collection point, maybe more (the 'pump stations' weren't in a straight line). There are three 'pump stations' along the way, and it's just piping and concrete (each pump station is about 2 metres tall, half of which is dug into the ground, and about a metre round, I think the intake was higher than the outlet, and I can't remember by how much). It starts at the side of a fairly fast moving stream. On the side of the stream is a concrete channel, which, I'd say, about 20% of the stream flows through, freely. The channel is about 4 metres long, 1 metre wide, and about 0.7 metres high. To fill up the channel you lower a metal gate. Then another gate is lowered to prevent water in the channel returning to the stream. Once the channel is full, you raise its gate and water is forced into a drain which starts the process of pumping the water up hill via the other pump stations. The destination of the water is a small dam, which is then used to irrigate the farm via gravity. My friends Dad gave us a demonstration (his Uncle wasn't there), he's a rather comical introvert character, great guy to be around but jeez can he be cryptic in his mannerisms and explanations. Gotta love him. Anyway. Even once the gate opens water continues to fill the channel, so it only slowly loses pressure. Once the gate was lifted we watched the water for a bit, then walked to each pump station, and finally to the dam. At a rough estimate, I reckon the emptying of the channel took about 20-30 minutes. And there was quite a head of pressure exiting that final station. It blew my mind. I was very impressed. I only wish it that it was better explained to me. But I think I've got it... If anyone reads this and understands what I'm saying :) I'd love to know more, and I'd really love to know what this type of pump is called!
Excellent presentation with 3D modelling, description, explanation and instructions. Thank goodness there are still people who don’t bait us with thumbnails containing yellow arrows, people with their mouths wide open and and infantile script. If I could like and subscribe twice I would.
Two relief valves, yes, but you can't forget about the pipe carrying the water. This fluid circuit is almost identical in theory to an electrical circuit known as a "joule thief". An important component in a joule thief is an inductor, because inductors resist changes in current. The role of the inductor is being played by the inertia of the water in the length of pipe between the tank and the valves. Another important component is the bubble in the tube on the pressurized side. That bubble performs a function analogous to a capacitor, smoothing out the output pressure of the pump and capturing more of the energy of the moving water.
It reminds of a boost converter in electronics. Instead of using an inductor as a store of energy, you use the inertia or the water along the inlet pipe.
Once upon a time,, my source of water where I lived was brought up from a creek via one of the old balloon style cast iron ram pumps, to a tank at the house. It was brilliant.
Smooth transition to the 3D section view. You may also explain that it works using water hammering, do you need a strong inflexible pipe for the intake (in the how it works presentation).
Connect the "lost water to the infeed side of your source, a second tank set beside and connected by simple check valve to hold the main tank pressure, and when enough water is "taken out/infeed" the valve opens and a portion of the lost water is recovered. Can even use a second Breurram to feed it from the catch to the prime tank, you will always lose some but the more you recover the less you have to take from the source.
@@sharkheadism If it gets back to the river that's great but this one had no return system to my knowledge it would just add to local ground water and evaporate.
There is something similar in pneumatics, you can boost the incoming air pressure by a multiple of 1.5 (or more or less depending on how the booster was designed/how much waste pressure is vented). Worked great getting 100-110psi shop air to about 150 for the machines that needed it. Your volume of air that can be supplied suffers a lot due to the waste air being vented, but without using more compressors the boosters work fine depending on the application
@@DavidG2P Yes! So I wonder if you can increase the efficiency by increasing the length of the steel pipe by curving it a bunch. (e.g. increase the coil inductiveness)
@@m.sierra5258 this is one of the ways the water analogy breaks down... ram pumps work off straight inertia, the momentum of the water itself. Inductance has nothing to do with electron momentum, and everything to do with the magnetic field around the wire. Overlapping coils of wire in a solenoid shape overlaps the magnetic field between the turns. Coiling water pipe just makes friction losses higher.
It is amazing how similar this is! You let some water/electrons flow, suddenly try to stop the flow which causes a pressure/voltage spike because it doesn't want to stop, use some valve/diode to capture that spike and an air bubble/capacitor to smooth it out at a higher level.
Wow this is cool. Since you already have the setup perhaps it would be even cooler if you can figure out the pump curves? Im sure between the always open and always closed, there will be a certain range where the spring tension will work Would be interesting to see how each settings affect both the max height and the flow rate
Cool. That's the hydrolic version of a DC boost converter. Only instead of bleeding off excess water to create higher pressure, it bleeds off excess current to create higher voltage.
I'd think your dc boost converter would be an electronic version of the ram pump, not the other way around, lol. The basic principal has been used to pump water for a VERY long time, while your boost converter is a "johnny come lately", lol. There's a good reason the British called vacuum tubes "valves"
You aren't taught about this because 1. It's only really useful if you live in a rural area 2. if your a farmer and 3. It is incredibly wasteful and with the trend of humanity continually fucking ourselves and scrambling to fix millenia worth of damage, this would not be environmentally friendly enough.
@UodasAruodasLTU Ideally you would install this by the river(with possibly a chute/ramp that would return the water) or even within the river so that the waste(which would not be waste in this scenario, or very little) is returned to river almost immediately.
thought an idea or opinion produced by thinking, or occurring suddenly in the mind. "Maggie had a sudden thought" why would you be thinking about mechanical water pumps in school ? mabe if you would of been taught as impart knowledge to or instruct (someone) as to how to do something. "she taught him to read" this really might of helped you about the pumps as well big time
worth noting is the pipe between the tank and pump. as it is the kinetic energy of the water in this section that drives the pump. meaning, a longer pipe will pack a bigger punch.
Now to incorporate a hydro generator... and add more pumps to fill the tower faster.. If you seal off the tower then vacuum suction could siphon the water without even needing the pump..
Once the water is pumped up to a higher elevation, if the water comes back down it will create a vacuum, and thus draw more water up the the top of the water tower that was created. The tank, would have to be almost completely, full before the water is released down a return pipe. If the water coming down is fast enough, it can turn a turbine and that could turn a generator and thus create electricity.
If this all works, then I could see the electric company using water towers to create hydro electricity, because they have the budget to build things like this at a very large scale. It would be like having another Niagra falls as your water source, except they would be using water towers to do the same thing on a smaller scale. But, if have rivers and lakes near by, it would be a way so build one and have nearly an endless supply of water to do this from.
In order to use a water tower to make water pressure it must be open at the top. And it Is impossible to move liquid water more than 34 feet in the air on vacuum alone.
I could see this being a good way to have free water if you had a clean spring and a make shift water tower to create pressure and this pump to slowly fill a 1000 gallon barrel as the pressure/ storage tank.
The same principle. Create high pressure with fast moving water, then block the easy pathway to push small amount of water higher. Kind of like different versions of a Stirling engine.
The Ancient Egyptians used this method on a grand scale. It is also known as a PULSE PUMP or RAM PUMP. It is used in mines to being water to the surface.
This is neat but it doesn't beat the Bunyip Pump. Instead of fast moving water, it can use slow moving or standing water and can pump much higher than a Breurram or a ram pump.
Instead of a twisted tube to keep some air inside could a tank that holds an air bubble work instead? I love these sort of pumps, they are fascinating!
Video: Be sure to use enough teflon tape to prevent leaking. Breurram: *Leaks aggressively as part of its function.* - Iunno I found this funny, fascinating concept!
you can even use the river flow water to run a wheel that is connected to a pump from another hose. to pump water up high. there are windmill pumps but i think a watermill pumps also can work.
The presentation is well explained, however could have been improved by using transparent tube so the learner could see the air bubble forming and moving. Thanks to the creators of this ptesentation.
I know nothing about water pumping so this may be a stupid question, why not just allow the flow from the pipe (which is continuously fed by the river) directly into the vertical pipe then the water naturally rises without any losses and all that would be needed is a relief valve to turn it off when not needed and this could divert back into the river.
True, it adds pressure to the water just like the spring but it's easier to tweak the size of the water tank (must be proportional to the diameter of the pump and head high) rather than the springs.
So basically if im correct (correct me if im wrong) you could use this to elevate water witout electricity, to a container higher up, and release it downward with the water pressure to spin a turbine and create electricity? This sounds like a pretty good setup to generate electricity for your own purposes
If you build a channel around the pump and direct the water back to the source..... or somewhere usefull = no waste water = no shame Thanks for the video, one day I will be glad I watched it so I can use the method.
Directing it back to the source would need another ram pump .... which would also need another ram pump to pump back its output..... This pump is a smart way to concentrate potential energy, called head in hydraulic system, lots of water with little head flows through, coming out with next to 0 head, while a little water is pushed against high head
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This is a bit different version of something called the "ram pump". Works on exactly the same principle and if you search for it, many people made clips on how they build their own.
As someone with an interest in aquatics I’m currently researching ways to run things more cost effectively and as conservatively as possible. This looks like a possible solution for running a constant circulation in a pond or aquarium. I’m trying to theorize if it’s possible to find a way to capture the wasted vented water on the up cycle so as not to empty out the aquarium. Maybe by encapsulating the valve in larger bore acting as a return pipe? Or would the pressure of being under water stop it from functioning properly on the up stroke?
@@SirBigzalot Sounds like you are searching for a hydraulic version of a Perpetuum Mobile ;)
"Waist water" is not called this at a whim. The water is not "wasted", it is still there, but it's potential/kinetic energy was used to push that small amount higher.
If you try to put it in a closed system, it will never run continuously.
That's why it is used in open systems with constant fresh water intake to replenish lost energy for pumping.
@@SirBigzalot maybe try capturing it and sending it back to the aquarium?
@@ogi22
Ram pump is an abbreviation of Breurram pump.
One day I will need this.... And I'm sure it'll be when the internet is down
Aint that always the way lol
Understand it completely and you'll never need to worry about that. Maybe build one?
@@lubricatedgoat cant speak for anyone else but now that the device has been explained and demonstrated to me and I understand the mechanical principle on which it operates I feel fully confident in my ability to reproduce one should the need ever arise.
@@foxhazhax4845 same. I'm even thinking of ways to improve it or incorporate a microcontroller.
It works the same way the phenomenon we call "water hammer" works, Momentum is just a consequence of inertia.
My grandfather has this on his property and the water lost is collected and then pumped back into the main holding tank he's getting his water from. He told me thats its "basically only 1/4 water loss. If more tanks are added for collection you can go down to 1/8 loss, 1/16 loss and so on with enough tanks and slopes." He uses this pump for his house plumbing. its pumped into a make-shift water tower then gravity fed into his home to maintain water pressure. Pretty awesome
@@JuneAtHomePHno. this pump is basically treading large amount of water flow speed for small amount of water hight. a well do not have a large flow speed so this pump can not be used
but if you need to use a pump to get the lost water back into the tank then why not just use a pump for the job instead of adding steps to it?
This is just a different way of making a ram pump. The valves act the same way. The yellow tube act as the air tank. Nice to see alternative designs.
Thinking the same myself.cheers
Nice comment, i was wondering why air was need in the system.
Maby it's the same phisics, but people who know about the existance of ram-pump is in vast minority. Personally never knew this was possible. Only knew about ram-jet, much harder to build and get going. Gratitude.
Yes, that's why it's called the breurram. The word "ram" is written the same in Dutch and English and has the same meaning.
Slightly different in that is doesn't necessarily require **flowing** water, just a height difference between the device and the water source. Could be used in a pond (natural or artificial) which to my understanding is unsuitable for a normal ram pump. Definitely the same method of operation though, you're right about that
Wow the cutaway at 1:56 is excellent! Not sure how long it took you to make but it demonstrates ram pump operation beautifully! Best visual learning aid on yt I’ve seen. Thank you!
I thought the same thing. Bravo!
yea my thoughts exactly. seen alot of ram pump vids..none like this though
It was.... glorious!!
I’d really like to know whitch software did you use for make this auented reality cad stuff. Thanks in advance for your reply
@@calvinasinhobbes wao, i’ve never thought something like that. Thanks
Back in the early 2000s, I attempted to build one of these to pump water from my spring box into my garden. I spent nearly $500 for parts because I could not get the damned thing to work, until I read a book by Gene Logsdon which told me what my problem was. For the pump to work you need a *minimum* of three feet (1 meter) vertical height from where your input water is *down* to where the ram pump is, otherwise there simply isn't enough potential energy to run the pump for longer than five minutes or so. Since the springbox down to the bottom of the creek was only two feet, the pump wouldn't work. Instead, I ended up with a 30 watt solar panel and a bilge pump which now pumps water into the garden for irrigation.
Just throwing out some thoughts... Could you raise the containment level of the springbox another 1.5 feet and then have the potential (plus a little extra) to make this breuram/ram pump function?
@@markpetersen912 No. Spring box was made back in the 1940s ? 50s? maybe earlier? and it's solid concrete attached to another spring box that was probably made back in what I suspect was the early 1900s. The whole area was filled in between the two spring boxes which were approximately 40-50 feet apart. The early one had a 6" cast iron pipe linking the two and has rusted to the point that the land between the "new" spring box and the "old" spring box has eroded about 10-15 feet making the whole area sink. It was originally the only way I could get onto the other side of the property without building a bridge over the creek. It's extremely dangerous to go anywhere near there now without the possibility of injury or even death because the drop is about 5 or six feet from the edge to where I "think" the bottom of the creek is. My solar solution works well, however and have used that for nearly 15 years.
Thanks for noting this... I was definitely wondering what force was driving the water into the pump, this video hardly mentions it at all!
@@Zalethon it uses the kinetic energy of flowing water, specifically jerk (that's a change of acceleration over time. Or v/t^2) The pressure spike of all that flowing water screeching to a stop shoves a small amount of water up the yellow hose. Then the valves switch and the water starts moving again to pick up the momentum to do it again.
@@randomstuff1019 Thanks for your explanation; I get how the pump itself works, once it has water flowing into it. The video just didn't make clear how water was being fed to the pump.
Interesting. This seems to be the water equivalent of the boost converter circuit in electronics, which uses a low voltage high current source to produce a high voltage at lower current.
It reminded me of that, too
I was thinking the same thing and might have it figured out. The main valve is equivalent to the transistor, the output valve is the diode, and the input pipe is the inductor.
The biggest difference is that electrical current doesn't have useful momentum, so the boost converter can't use a passive component (like a spring) to regulate the switching.
Isn't the efficiency in electronics much higher? Here, most of thd water gets lost.
@@l3p3 In electronics, the "water" is electrons and most of them indeed don't reach the high voltage level. They "sacrifice" their energy to give the few electrons that make it. These then have higher energy per electron (i.e. voltage)
I realised a while ago that everything physical has an electrical equivalent to a degree
My dad made one of these for his holiday home before I was born, and it's still in use. I used to know enough about how it worked to change gaskets and water proofing tape, and hopefully my brother still does. I think dad had to change one component at some point, but apart from that... gaskets. Edit: Forgot to mention, i'm 55 years old.
Are you sure it wasn't a ram pump he built? They're similar and do pulse waste water. But last far longer due to alot less moving parts?
I only ask because there's one in the Mourne mountains in Ireland that's been running for the last 200 odd years so I know they're much longer lasting.
@@Palemagpie It's quite possible I'm getting them mixed up.
@@Palemagpiethis is a rampump
I have seen several descriptions of how this kind of pump works, but you are the first one to show the trick with the air bubble as a buffer. Well done.
This is some really useful and interesting application of water pressure! Going down the TH-cam rabbit hole at nearly 3 AM yields its benefits. 10/10
Back in the forties I knew a man who had one of these - quite large and made of cast iron. In those days they used to call it a 'pulsometer'. He lived by a snall hill which had a spring near the top. He used the machine to pump water up to the tank on the roof and the excess water flowed back into the stream. You could hear it clacking a long way off. For a boy of eight it was quite facinating.
Like your air cushion idea over other ram pumps. Simplify simplify simplify. Must go build one now and do some test.
‘tis a hydraulic self-oscillating boost converter. I love it.
This is exactly what I was going to comment. Love it when you can have a mechanical equivalent to an electric system.
Same here, I'm looking at that pulse and thinking, "this is a boost converter!" 😆
@@danloeser similar to a waste gate that controls boost on a turbocharged vehicle.
This is how the Giza pyramid (blueprint) used to pump water away from the dammed up areas that the Pharaoh's ancestors fled from.
Osiris is a water-being (a verison of poseidon) Enki is a water-being, and AztaAtlTlan where the Aztecs claim heritage means "land of water birds".
Giza is just the most advanced copy of whatever pump technology coastline people could come up with before all the old coasts inevitably got flooded.
There was NO "high technology", - just manipulation of occillations and the knowledge of advantageous erosion that followed, - allowing egyptians to take advantage of possibly a couple thousand years of dam/pumping knowledge from wherever migrants came from.
The kings/queens chamber "roof" could be where the original builders let the overflow of the Nile flow into an aqueduct system above ground in order to water their crops, while using the pressurized end of the loop to aid with the cutting of sandstone.
Breurram = a form of ram pump (which is powered by water hammer)
How many type of ram pump are there? What’re the advantages and disadvantages between them?
@@Stevedawhoop -- All ram pumps are basically the same design. There are minor variations among the components.
For anyone wondering, the system is using the momentum of the flow to store elastic potential energy in the pipe system, at peak elastic potential, the stored energy is released into the high pressure element and used to move the fluid fractionally within the high pressure system, once the energy is used, the cycle repeats, flow increases, stop engages, energy builds up, is released into high pressure and repeat.
So, water hammer, basically, right?
@@edew9180yes
Right, so basically the potential energy of a large amount of water is used to pump a small amount of it further up than it came down.
Wow that cross-section overlay was really well done. Very educational!
Seems like the loss water could be used for a biological purpose since it is aerated. Possibly a fish/aquaponics farm if dug below the base of the tower?
I was thinking just making a bamboo water channels or using pipes and irrigate a little garden playing around with slopes.
Over time it would be too much constant water, best to get it back ti the river.
Or throw it back in the same tank
@@freevbucks8019 wouldn’t be efficient, you would use more energy getting it back in the tank then you saved by using this pump in the first place…
The best solution would be to have it spill back out into the river.
@@derpionderpson1424 if you take it from the river and pump it just above the river it's like free energy
Been using this style in NZ for 50+ years. (known as a Williamson ram pump)
There is a version that you can use waste water to move clean water.
You're translating gravitational potential energy from a lot of water flowing down a slope into a little bit of water going straight up. Genius.
Very fancy cutaway graphic. Wasn’t expecting that at all. I’m sure it took a while to render but was well worth it.
Had never heard of this pump before and must admit I came here thinking it was going to be another perpetual motion machine proposed on youtube but instead I found a very cool new pump design I had never heard of, thanks!
These do work and are great for pumping water from a stream or river as they loose about 95% of the water out of the pump. That is before the head becomes an issue. However you still need to drain the waste water and the pump needs to be at least a meter below the surface. Basically almost a syphonable layout height.
The air bubble in the tube is so smart. I never would have thought about such a simple solution
really cool, actually works as a really good physical analogy of the function of a step-up converter
If I understand the principles behind this pump correctly, it's basically like a lever, but for lifting a liquid rather than a solid mass.
It utilises gravitational potential energy and some basic principles of hydrodynamics (pressure vs. flow) to obtain a mechanical advantage that allows the water to be lifted to an impressive height.
Very cool, thanks for sharing this!
It might be easier to explain using water hammer. When the flow is suddenly cut off the moving water “hammers” the other valve open, lifting the water.
Super cool! Converting gravitational potential energy to kinetic energy, then back to gravitational potential energy!
I've seen such pump in work for the first time a month ago. I instantly say: *"NO !"* It's so *-intuitiv-*
Nice job 👍
At 3:46 you are applying your thread tape the hard way, hold the tape roll on your right index finger with the middle running on the outside, now roll off the backside of the tape onto the fitting. This allows simple smooth control of tension and length simultaneously
I find the slotted cap on top of the waste valve of this pump very aesthetically pleasing
Wow! This is exactly how a voltage step-up converter works
It's always good to find out about such excellent things existing. Engineers are truly the magicians of our world.
From an energy standpoint, it seems logical that you can only get at most Δx/Δn of the water up to an elevation, where Δx is the difference in height from the top of the water tank to the pump and Δn is the height above the pump that the water is pumped to.
Once you've brought the water up to a certain height, you can use that to pump less water up to a higher height. Example you can use a simple pump so once the water is 20 feet high, you can use that to operate a pump to raise half the water up to maybe 30 feet high. You end up with less water at the higher height, but you're getting free energy anyway, so it doesn't matter.
@@karljay7473 You don't get free energy from it, since all the energy the rising water gets is transfered from the other water that fell down to the water that's lifted.
@@HenrikMyrhaug How much do you pay for the energy that lifts the water? You pay nothing for it, therefore it's free. You can pump 100 gallons 20 feet for free, then you use that 100 gallons to move 50 gallons to a higher level, maybe 40 feet... You start the process wanting X gallons to be 100 feet, so you move 5X gallons 20 feet, 4X gallons 40 feet, 3X gallons 60 feet, etc... It doesn't cost you any money to move X gallons 100 feet as no electric pumps are being used. Free, in this case, means that you are using nature, just as it doesn't cost you money for water to flow down a hill.
@@karljay7473 Sorry, I thought you meant "free energy" as in generating more energy than the ammount that already exists and is put into the system, which is impossible.
You'll definitely get to pump water almost as high as you want without putting more energy into the system than what already exists.
@@HenrikMyrhaug No problem, even the "free" isn't 100% free because you have to build or buy the pump, but once you buy it, it's free to operate. We could have a lot more of these setup in dams all over and generate even more energy.
The cutaway was so awesome. I'll never forget this mechanism now. Beautiful editing work. The build quality of the entire line up the tower and your explanations are perfect!
This is an excellent presentation. Brief, informative,
very well explained.Congradulations
Another name for this is a Ram Pump. set up is a little different but identical in function.. your switch valve is much nicer and adjustable though... enjoy..
breuram is a TYPE of ram pump.
Its basically a ram pump. The use of the tensioner for the main check valve is a brilliant upgrade however. Far more control than a traditional ram pump. If not used for potable drinking purposes many people add an air damper on the pressure hose side right after the check valve in the form of a PVC/Steel tube. Your use of the pressure delivery hose to perform this function is not only resource saving but also resourceful! Great idea!
I feel like I should know the answer already, but should the output not be buffered if to be used for drinking water?
You can make your own pressure tank on the outgoing side of the pump with a large tube
@@isaackarjala7916high pressure is the only thing keeping piped water clean, low pressure standing water is how you get sick
Everytime you say "The Breurram" you sound a like a German guy trying his hardest to pronounce the words right and i love it.
Ram pump without air chamber .... unique design!
Hi, in fact there is an air chamber; the big yellow hose contains a bubble of air and acts as the air chamber. But you're right it looks different than most other designs
@@WOT_utwente seems way more compact than other designs for a ram pump. Love it!
As many wrote in their comments, water hammer is the force driving the pump. (Change your manual.) Water is incompressible in the actual range of pressure so when the flow stops abruptly the momentum is converted to pressure increase. Water hammer was the noise in the plumbing with copper or steel pipes if you shut a faucet suddenly. Although sometimes a standpipe with air not water would dampen the effect.
I know this one as a "Ram pump", we use them a lot here in Brazil!
@Lorenzo Maria Martini Bomba carneiro. Creo que sea muy parecido el nombre en español
I've seen the ram pump and now this, it's super impressive. My friend and I were on his Uncles farm in Cape Town, they have a pump there which I'm still trying to fully wrap my head around. It was not very well explained, but I think I figured it out:P The starting point is about 200 metres away and about 5 metres lower than the collection point, maybe more (the 'pump stations' weren't in a straight line). There are three 'pump stations' along the way, and it's just piping and concrete (each pump station is about 2 metres tall, half of which is dug into the ground, and about a metre round, I think the intake was higher than the outlet, and I can't remember by how much).
It starts at the side of a fairly fast moving stream. On the side of the stream is a concrete channel, which, I'd say, about 20% of the stream flows through, freely. The channel is about 4 metres long, 1 metre wide, and about 0.7 metres high. To fill up the channel you lower a metal gate. Then another gate is lowered to prevent water in the channel returning to the stream. Once the channel is full, you raise its gate and water is forced into a drain which starts the process of pumping the water up hill via the other pump stations. The destination of the water is a small dam, which is then used to irrigate the farm via gravity.
My friends Dad gave us a demonstration (his Uncle wasn't there), he's a rather comical introvert character, great guy to be around but jeez can he be cryptic in his mannerisms and explanations. Gotta love him. Anyway. Even once the gate opens water continues to fill the channel, so it only slowly loses pressure. Once the gate was lifted we watched the water for a bit, then walked to each pump station, and finally to the dam. At a rough estimate, I reckon the emptying of the channel took about 20-30 minutes. And there was quite a head of pressure exiting that final station.
It blew my mind. I was very impressed. I only wish it that it was better explained to me. But I think I've got it... If anyone reads this and understands what I'm saying :) I'd love to know more, and I'd really love to know what this type of pump is called!
Excellent presentation with 3D modelling, description, explanation and instructions. Thank goodness there are still people who don’t bait us with thumbnails containing yellow arrows, people with their mouths wide open and and infantile script. If I could like and subscribe twice I would.
Built a Ram Pump decades ago worked great. Very ingenious things...
So it's just two relief valves tuned to be just right?
Two relief valves, yes, but you can't forget about the pipe carrying the water. This fluid circuit is almost identical in theory to an electrical circuit known as a "joule thief". An important component in a joule thief is an inductor, because inductors resist changes in current. The role of the inductor is being played by the inertia of the water in the length of pipe between the tank and the valves.
Another important component is the bubble in the tube on the pressurized side. That bubble performs a function analogous to a capacitor, smoothing out the output pressure of the pump and capturing more of the energy of the moving water.
@@tissuepaper9962 Water hammer is a hell of a thing
This is totally new to me, thank you for sharing this useful knowledge. Now to sort out the excess outflow from the pump.
Excellent video and cutaway animation.
It reminds of a boost converter in electronics. Instead of using an inductor as a store of energy, you use the inertia or the water along the inlet pipe.
The Dutch sure do know their water
never even heard of this pump before, I'm glad I watched the video.
Cheers.
Once upon a time,, my source of water where I lived was brought up from a creek via one of the old balloon style cast iron ram pumps, to a tank at the house. It was brilliant.
Smooth transition to the 3D section view. You may also explain that it works using water hammering, do you need a strong inflexible pipe for the intake (in the how it works presentation).
this is a genius design. It takes such a simple mechanism that makes good use of it. Fantastic.
Connect the "lost water to the infeed side of your source, a second tank set beside and connected by simple check valve to hold the main tank pressure, and when enough water is "taken out/infeed" the valve opens and a portion of the lost water is recovered. Can even use a second Breurram to feed it from the catch to the prime tank, you will always lose some but the more you recover the less you have to take from the source.
this is critical and ignorantly left out of the video. If everyone wasted this much water from the rivers we would be in trouble.
@@SnowflakeHaze What if it just flows back into the river
@@sharkheadism If it gets back to the river that's great but this one had no return system to my knowledge it would just add to local ground water and evaporate.
There is something similar in pneumatics, you can boost the incoming air pressure by a multiple of 1.5 (or more or less depending on how the booster was designed/how much waste pressure is vented). Worked great getting 100-110psi shop air to about 150 for the machines that needed it. Your volume of air that can be supplied suffers a lot due to the waste air being vented, but without using more compressors the boosters work fine depending on the application
damn this is literally the step up regulator in the electricity
Exactly!
I believe the steel pipe is the L (coil), the air hose is the C (capacitor), and the valves are the transistors, right?
@@DavidG2P Yes! So I wonder if you can increase the efficiency by increasing the length of the steel pipe by curving it a bunch. (e.g. increase the coil inductiveness)
@@m.sierra5258 Yes but that is a complicated achievement.
@@m.sierra5258 this is one of the ways the water analogy breaks down... ram pumps work off straight inertia, the momentum of the water itself. Inductance has nothing to do with electron momentum, and everything to do with the magnetic field around the wire. Overlapping coils of wire in a solenoid shape overlaps the magnetic field between the turns. Coiling water pipe just makes friction losses higher.
Ooo 3d view even. Very proud of you people putting effort into videos
Huh this is the water analog of a DC/DC boost converter!
It is amazing how similar this is! You let some water/electrons flow, suddenly try to stop the flow which causes a pressure/voltage spike because it doesn't want to stop, use some valve/diode to capture that spike and an air bubble/capacitor to smooth it out at a higher level.
OOOOOHHH, I get it now. It's magic. Some kind of dark ancient magic.
no, it's science some kind of dark ancient science.
Wow this is cool. Since you already have the setup perhaps it would be even cooler if you can figure out the pump curves? Im sure between the always open and always closed, there will be a certain range where the spring tension will work Would be interesting to see how each settings affect both the max height and the flow rate
Cool. That's the hydrolic version of a DC boost converter. Only instead of bleeding off excess water to create higher pressure, it bleeds off excess current to create higher voltage.
I'd think your dc boost converter would be an electronic version of the ram pump, not the other way around, lol. The basic principal has been used to pump water for a VERY long time, while your boost converter is a "johnny come lately", lol. There's a good reason the British called vacuum tubes "valves"
Awesome it uses the water hammer to move water!
Yes
One of the very few positive consequences of water hammer i have ever seen. Cool system!
Ok I'm genuinely pissed that i wasn't thought something like this in school.
You aren't taught about this because 1. It's only really useful if you live in a rural area 2. if your a farmer and 3. It is incredibly wasteful and with the trend of humanity continually fucking ourselves and scrambling to fix millenia worth of damage, this would not be environmentally friendly enough.
Haha you’re not alone
@UodasAruodasLTU Ideally you would install this by the river(with possibly a chute/ramp that would return the water) or even within the river so that the waste(which would not be waste in this scenario, or very little) is returned to river almost immediately.
The purpose of school is to train you for the workforce. The last thing they want is for people to become self sufficient! X3
thought an idea or opinion produced by thinking, or occurring suddenly in the mind.
"Maggie had a sudden thought" why would you be thinking about mechanical water pumps in school ? mabe if you would of been taught as impart knowledge to or instruct (someone) as to how to do something.
"she taught him to read" this really might of helped you about the pumps as well big time
worth noting is the pipe between the tank and pump. as it is the kinetic energy of the water in this section that drives the pump. meaning, a longer pipe will pack a bigger punch.
Now to incorporate a hydro generator... and add more pumps to fill the tower faster.. If you seal off the tower then vacuum suction could siphon the water without even needing the pump..
I’d like to see what you’re referring to, got a link?
Because it is an "open system", air would still enter in the water and prevent the vacuum.
Once the water is pumped up to a higher elevation, if the water comes back down it will create a vacuum, and thus draw more water up the the top of the water tower that was created. The tank, would have to be almost completely, full before the water is released down a return pipe. If the water coming down is fast enough, it can turn a turbine and that could turn a generator and thus create electricity.
If this all works, then I could see the electric company using water towers to create hydro electricity, because they have the budget to build things like this at a very large scale. It would be like having another Niagra falls as your water source, except they would be using water towers to do the same thing on a smaller scale. But, if have rivers and lakes near by, it would be a way so build one and have nearly an endless supply of water to do this from.
In order to use a water tower to make water pressure it must be open at the top.
And it Is impossible to move liquid water more than 34 feet in the air on vacuum alone.
I could see this being a good way to have free water if you had a clean spring and a make shift water tower to create pressure and this pump to slowly fill a 1000 gallon barrel as the pressure/ storage tank.
Sounds like a ram pump but it looks different
The same principle. Create high pressure with fast moving water, then block the easy pathway to push small amount of water higher. Kind of like different versions of a Stirling engine.
Yeah just much quieter
@@Tasmantor Sound is generated when the valve is shut. This one does it more gently, but also doesn't create high pressure.
That's basicly a boost converter. Thats amazing!
would it be accurate to say that this takes advantage of the water hammer effect?
it's good video 👍👍👍, I will adopt this "Hidram pump". it is very simple and easy, thank you. From Indonesia I am support this channel.
"WOT, Wot, wot!" Said the Covanent elite.
Nice boost regulator.
The Ancient Egyptians used this method on a grand scale. It is also known as a PULSE PUMP or RAM PUMP. It is used in mines to being water to the surface.
This is neat but it doesn't beat the Bunyip Pump. Instead of fast moving water, it can use slow moving or standing water and can pump much higher than a Breurram or a ram pump.
I've searched around for actual users and their reviews for Bunyip pump. Its been over 2 years, that this pump was put to production.
Where are they?
@@alext8610 they are in NewZealand making videos for their homestead channels
@@SheriffofTH-cam they don’t show any water outlet videos. Or quote flow rate. I wonder how much$$$$
I am certain one day in the following decades this will come in handy!
And of course, a Dutch is explaining this 😌
prob have too much water on their hands))
Cool to see water hammer put to work, great explanation
I see a lot of money in brass fittings
That's ingeniuous. It's like a fluid dynamics version of a Joule Thief ( an electrical counterpart to this same effect ).
So if you do that to a hydrodam ... Unlimited free electricity?!
What do you think hydropower dams are used for?
Idk why youtube recommended this to me but I am enjoying it
I'm not sure how useful this is, your still need power to fill the water tank
I guess you could fill a water tower from a river
The water tank in the system is pointless, he could have as well made it directly from the river which would add the kinetic energy!
I smile every time you say Breurram.
Now say squirrel.
squirrel
@@WOT_utwente lol. Danke.
So its a RAM pump but with spring valves instead of a vacuum tube and pressure valves. Neat!
I want a little desk fountain that pumps water in intervals like that, seems cool
You could use this to fill up a reservoir used to drive a hydroelectric pump. It would be very slow but it would work.
actual infinite electricity glitch?!?
So basically using water hammering as a pump, brilliant!
Instead of a twisted tube to keep some air inside could a tank that holds an air bubble work instead? I love these sort of pumps, they are fascinating!
Video: Be sure to use enough teflon tape to prevent leaking. Breurram: *Leaks aggressively as part of its function.* - Iunno I found this funny, fascinating concept!
you can even use the river flow water to run a wheel that is connected to a pump from another hose. to pump water up high. there are windmill pumps but i think a watermill pumps also can work.
Water Hammer exploited to act as a free pump! Nice!!
The presentation is well explained, however could have been improved by using transparent tube so the learner could see the air bubble forming and moving.
Thanks to the creators of this ptesentation.
the water loss is actually not lost at all, and will provide water to trees inbetween the pumpsite and the water source.
I know nothing about water pumping so this may be a stupid question, why not just allow the flow from the pipe (which is continuously fed by the river) directly into the vertical pipe then the water naturally rises without any losses and all that would be needed is a relief valve to turn it off when not needed and this could divert back into the river.
GRAVITY
basically utilizing the water hammer effect to your benefit, very elegant
This is very important knowledge. Thankyou sincerely.
Ram pumps can pump more water to greater heights because they use a pressure tank that builds enough force to push heavier volumes of liquid uphill.
no, this video is just another name for a ram pump. the pressure tank on a ram pump only smooths the output it doesn't increase head or volume.
True, it adds pressure to the water just like the spring but it's easier to tweak the size of the water tank (must be proportional to the diameter of the pump and head high) rather than the springs.
I have no idea why I am watching this but I like it
Making water hammer work for you. Ingenious!
So basically if im correct (correct me if im wrong) you could use this to elevate water witout electricity, to a container higher up, and release it downward with the water pressure to spin a turbine and create electricity?
This sounds like a pretty good setup to generate electricity for your own purposes
If you build a channel around the pump and direct the water back to the source..... or somewhere usefull
= no waste water
= no shame
Thanks for the video, one day I will be glad I watched it so I can use the method.
Directing it back to the source would need another ram pump .... which would also need another ram pump to pump back its output.....
This pump is a smart way to concentrate potential energy, called head in hydraulic system, lots of water with little head flows through, coming out with next to 0 head, while a little water is pushed against high head