I dealing with this now. My gf came out to her family for me/her and instead received so much hate and rejection. I don’t understand why people can’t just let others be happy. It’s not about religion or what’s in the Bible just let us do what we love while we are on this earth for who knows how long.
I'd do it! My husband and I will be 19 years as a couple on Feb 18. Our 17th wedding anniversary was Aug 25, 2021. We've raised four sons together and survived three combat deployments with the Army, as well. I'd watch that episode, long term couples with kiddos.
made my heart hurt cuz made me think of my fam where I get the passive agressive acceptance. The whole "I don't approve of your choices, but I still love you" which almost hurts more than just outright unnacceptance cuz it feels like I'm only accepted because they feel they have to cuz im their kid. I dont understand why people can't just love their children completely for who they are, reglardless of who that is.
My heart goes out to McKenzie🦋💕 you are not at fault for the miscarriages🦋 pregnancy is complex and several things, out of your control, could go wrong.
When you say she isn't at fault, what exactly are you saying? Obviously there are things out of her control. Are you saying that there is no possibility that there may be something she can do that might help prevent another miscarriage? That's quite a bold and unhelpful claim if you ask me. I understand you are compelled to express compassion, but this sentiment can be interpreted in a way that is accross purpose.
At first I thought that too. But then I stepped back and remembered that not everyone is okay with a lot of physical touch. Also, when I'm upset and someone gives me a hug, it legit just makes me cry more. So maybe he knows her boundaries/how she would react. Also he might be grieving in a different way and him hugging her would open floodgates he wouldn't want to show on the internet. That's how I'm choosing to see it.
@@Moondragon1821 Yeah, maybe let's not jump to judging people off of a thirty second clip. We don't know about their lives or how they prefer to grieve.
People have different love languages, boundaries and preferences!! Normalize that. I for one do not like ppl touching me unless it’s in a sexual context TBH which has to do with childhood trauma, but it’s not comforting as it may be to some people!!
It makes sense, they probably didn’t have enough time to work the bugs out of the differences and communication issues that only tend to emerge after some period of time ..
I would of like some long relationships on here. I just don't get people who rush into a marriage, like I've been in long relationships that ended, I feel like 5 years is the mark of breakups, you make it passed that with nothing holding you together like a kid then you'll do much better long term
I love this conversation! Especially how authentic and raw Eden and Jay were. I only wish they had a more diverse marriage range. Like different stages of marriages. All of these couples seemed rather young, no kids, new to marriage.
Yeahh i agree too, i would have like to see a wider range. Like ideally, it would have been the 4 we got (they were all great) but then have like a male gay couple, a interracial couple, an older couple like 55+ with like grandkids and then a couple who are like in the middle like 25-36 with a kid and stuff.
It was interesting to see how different apparently similar situations can be though! As you said, as a family these couples were fairly similar (no kids, young...) And yet they had their unique struggles and strengths and languages! I'd like another video with different kinds of couple (especially older people) too 😊
I also wish there was maybe like an interracial couple. (Eden and jay might be) Just something. cause no offense to these couples but they all look very similar to each other. And marriage is already hard but I wish they would have added that extra layer with an interracial marriage. To breech into a sub topic.
Hi Jubilee, I speak for everyone when I say: “We don’t mind watching a 30-minute video”. Please make these longer so we get the chance to hear from more people on the same prompts.
The homophobic parent part made me emotional because I feel so bad for people who have to go through it. My family is supportive of me and I’m so grateful
Eden is literally the first bisexual woman that I've seen that's married to another woman. What a pleasant thing to see :) (saying this as a bi woman myself)
Agreed. This is the reason behind the biphobia. It's because at the end of the road. The bi person always chooses the opposite sex to get an easy life without discrimination. To please their family. And to have kids. So, for a Bi woman to choose another woman is not common. Bi people need to be brave and choose the gay partner , stop hiding, and choose the easy choice.
yeah... as a Bi woman myself, Ive had lesbian girls I'm about to date or starting ''something'' with, turn around or generally don't accept my liking for men aswell :( I was with a guy once that said ''nah ill turn you straight'' and Ive also been with a girl that said ''you dont actually like men though, ill make you forget about it'' and damn... but now I'm in a relationship with a guy that really accepts me and so far so great , 2 years together. I don't really see bisexual women married to other women as much as lesbians tbh.. :'(
Kudos for Richard and his "controversial" take. I personally don't believe in soulmates, but I do subscribe to the belief that all relationships are two-way streets so and requires effort to maintain them, so you must choose to put work in everyday. They happier you are while giving that effort, the better the quality of your relationship.
Agree about his take. I just hope that he and his partner talk more about deep things like that in the future. His partner seemed surprised by his response. Might just have been the way it was edited together, though.
@Gavin Reed yes okay we get it. you’re going through the comments and saying things that don’t always describe a certain situation you have no background on. not every person on earth fits perfectly into the statements you’re making
Bro the most healthiest relationship out of all of them is only eden and jays!!! How transparent they are to each other but also keeps the relationship enticing and how they got each other backs and how healthy their communication is, serious serious major goal of mine
I started dating my boyfriend when i was 19 and now 5 years later people are like “are you guys not going to get married?” and im like “guys im just 23” 😂
@@gaj30 its funny how life works, the brother of my boyfriend has 38 and was also dating a woman for 5 years and they got married last year. My view for getting married implies some things as a stable job + a house and at least 28 years 😂
Hi ladies, 2yrs is more than enough time to "just date"... anything beyond that without thinking/leading to marriage is just a waste of the (woman's) time. If you are worried about being too young or not experienced enough, then just end it and keep dating new people until you find what you want. I emphasis waste of a woman's time because men do not have biological clocks so they can take however long they want, and the longer they are able to get away with fairly guaranteed sex without having to commit to marriage, the more likely they will stay in that relationship.
@@iamgosa i cant have nor do i want children, there's no clock here. also we're the ones choosing not to rush into marriage because we'd like to have more and be more stable before making a decision like that so i dont know what you're talking about
It is perfectly okay to be sad if you cannot have biological children naturally and not everyone can afford expensive medical intervention. Let's not tell other people how to feel about their problems.
@Gavin Reed we don’t know their reason for why she has miscarriages. Apart from weight it could be fibroids, PCOS, endometriosis, cysts and etc. there are many different and common health issues women face. So let’s not assume she’s having fertility issues because she’s “overweight” and not “skinny”.
@@doraowusu8705 He never said anything about being skinny though. Being overweight is a major factor. But I do hope she betters herself. She seems like a great person
McKenzie had me crying abt the child conversation. I am so sorry for her loss & struggles & pain. For whatever it’s worth, I want her to know, she is worthy regardless of fertility. She deserves the best. 🥰
Right!! You offer so much more value as a woman other than being able to birth kids. It honestly really rubbed me the wrong way how the husband was nodding along. If mine didn't jump the bullet and interrupt me to say that im being foolish and he married me for more than kids, i would divorce on the spot tbh
@@Jollumon Hey! It’s McKenzie from the video! My husband comforts me the way I like. We have had this conversation already and I know how he feels. I was just talking about my insecurities. You don’t know what goes on after the cameras turn off.
@@mckenzieriniker244 for sure! And i wasnt giving a judgement for you guys i was just saying how I would expect my spouse to act. Im glad to hear he supports you
This is a lovely video, but I definitely would have liked more included from everyone! Maybe there wasn’t as much discussion but I felt like each round of questions cut off so quickly. If you guys have more footage I’d love to hear more from this group.
I agree with Richard on the concept of soulmates. My opinion is, there is no single person meant for you. There are many people with compatible personalities to us in the world and we just click with one of them. You choose eachother, and stay with eachother because that's what you and your partner want and I think that's beautiful. The two of you aren't together because it was something that was meant to happen but it's something the you wanted to happen.
Let's follow your logic and see where it takes us. If there are 'many people' that are compatible with your personality, couldn't we just section of bit by bit the ones that are most compatible with you. At the end of that process you would have found your so called soulmate. I think the reason people buy into the idea that soul mates don't exist is so that they can cope with the fact that they're not ambitious enough to go find their one.
@@zakaria8613 I disagree with that. I think that people buy into soulmates existing because they are too lazy to do the work in a relationship. The power of choosing someone yourself is much more divine than some outside force that chooses for you. 🤷🏾♀️
I like the controversial take about soulmates. I think it's even more romantic in a way, because it gives more agency to both partners. We didn't happen because we were meant to be, we happened because we chose this and continue to.
@@nicolelanae98 I agree and I also think that soulmate is singular what if I thought the same thing about the last person I was with? To me then it loses meaning.
@@alexisclarke2064 I understand how it could hurt her feelings, and especially if they have never talked about this before this definitely wasn't the best setting to have this conversation for the first time. But I also think if you don't believe in soulmates, it would be wrong to say your partner is your soulmate, because it would be a lie.
That soulmate question was awkward for the woman who’s husband disagreed lol. You know, I don’t believe in soulmates either though, but I hope to find someone who feels sooo right for me. And then I would consider that person like a soulmate even if I don’t believe in the “supernatural” connotation of the word
@@AmiriHipHop weirdly enough I’ve seen more marriages fail from people who lived together before getting married than people who hadn’t lived together prior to marriage
@@mauve9266 probably because most couples already live together before they get married? personally i dont know ANYBODY who married a person they didnt live with. mayne its different in the us but here in europe its rather unheard of
Eden’s experience with bisexuality is EXACTLY how I feel and I’m so excited to see someone else who feels that way about having “choose” end up with someone they’re confident in marrying ❤️ also love the femme representation!!
@@aus-li yes and I think that period of time of communication should be before marrying, there should be no rush and a healthy marriage should be transparent.
@@avocado184nhs82 I understand your point but from my perspective, with my traumas I think transparency would be important or my partner wouldn't understand certain reactions and boundaries. I just think somebody your married to would want to know and it would be healing to share that pain with them.
I identify as bisexual as well and the last thing that's been said actually brought tears to my eyes. I always miss something in a person no matter if I was with men or women. There was always something I craved. I felt like a person who's not able to provide unconditional love and that made me feel horrible. And hearing someone talk about that "one person" that's enough and always will be enough is beautiful and gives me so much faith. Now I know that I can find that one person too that I'll call my home. Thank you so much. This means everything.
@Gavin Reed if you've never loved someone unconditionally or had someone love you unconditionally I feel bad for you. But considering you're also the one that keeps bringing up divorce rates in lesbian couples even though they seem perfectly happy makes a lot of sense why you think unconditional love is false.
6:54 such pain, but also such compassion. I really, really want to give her a hug. For she has great empathy. And then the other one saying "when I married you I gained a family" was even harder on the tears.
I feel for Eden, that’s the exact reason I don’t like my future MIL. We’re a hetero couple but interracial and she hates the fact he’s with an American and not Indian woman. And she breaks him down almost every conversation and tries to tell him he owes her his autonomy and his choices because she raised him. She tries to guilt him and make him feel terrible just for being happy. And no mother should do that to their child and it’s hard being the significant other because all you can be is a shoulder to cry on.
I can't handle this, this is so sweet. I almost cried like, three times, especially at the end. My heart swells at the way Jay and Eden talk about each other.. and gosh, the way Charlie looks at Amber at 10:50. I'm so happy these couples have each other!
Can you do an episode of spectrum with lgbtq+ kids? As a kid who is in the lgbtq+ it would be nice to see other people of my age group in my community in a video format like this. Or maybe straight kids and lgbtq+ in an episode of middle ground
McKenzie needs a hug from her husband right here 5:50. Shes literally asking for one, you can tell by the way shes looking over. MASSIVE L for Tyler here...💔
I remember watching a video featuring Charlie and Amber before.. but I can't remember what it was about. So glad to see that they are still super cute together and thriving
Is it from that buzzfeed video where couples pick out tattoos for each other?! I remember watching that video a long time ago & I immediately recognized them in the thumbnail! They’re so cute!
My heart is with McKenzie and it was nice to hear them bring to light how “taboo” it is to talk about pregnancy loss. A lot of people have only surface level knowledge of pregnancy, fertility, and female bodies and a lot of these comments prove that. I’m sure that couple is pouring everything into their fertility journey. Baby dust to them 🌈
I also feel for them, because there are folks who have child pretty effortlessly. I'm sure "unfair" doesn't begin to describe their pain and frustration.
The system is just messed up. If couples really wants to have kids or at least adopt kids, the couples should receive more help than what they are actually getting from the government.
i was a boy. they were 138 girls. can i make it any more obvious? thats right, i had a crazy dream last night. HAHAHAHAHA!!! im the funniest youtube star ever. youre welcome for laughing dear leo
I just want to give Mckenzie a big hug and tell her that it isn't her fault and she's doing the best she can and that is such a hard thing to go through, thoughts and Prayers -Ellie
Mckenzie.. my heart goes out to you. I felt every word. Im sitting here in tears on Valentines day... I was hopeful that I would finally get a positive test, but instead my second IUI failed. This is the hardest thing my husband and I have ever gone through together and I have never felt a heartache like this. Sending you baby dust.💕
just because that what you would've wanted doesnt mean the same for everyone. Everyone has different way of coping. To many, it makes them even more sad to touch them in a situation like this
The couple in white gave me the ick. Idk why but there's something that comes off inauthentic about them in all of their screentime. As if they are trying too hard to force an image of a perfect/happy relationship.
I can totally relate to how McKenzie feels. Me and my husband also had three miscarriages. The recent ones were last year and the year before. I don’t think my husband will ever leave me but I can’t help but still feel worthless
Hey! It’s McKenzie! You are so amazing! I am so sorry you’ve had to deal with this too. I wish you the best in your journey and I’m always here to be a listening ear if you ever need it!
@@mckenzieriniker244 thank you so much 😊 it’s been two years since my miscarriages and no matter how much someone assured me that it’s going to be ok I still feel heartache. Some days I’m ok and some I’m not
Miscarriages are extremely hard. Even the thought of doing a recording for a show a week after we had ours sounds terrible, let alone it being the third miscarriage. Thank you for sharing, you aren’t alone.
It is heart breaking that McKenzie blames herself for something so out of her control and that happens to a large number of pregnancies regardless of what people do to try to minimize the chances of it happening. Just the fact that she got pregnant is something to be proud of. I hope things get better for her
I really appriciate McKenzie talking about her miscarriages. They're so common and need to be talked about more so women don't feel alone or like its their fault and so partners know how best to support them.
it’s not awkward to talk about miscarriages. i don’t feel awkward listening to you, though i do think you’re really strong and appreciate you sharing with us! miscarriages happen to millions of women and occur in 10-20% or 1 in 8 of all pregnancies, and we need to normalise discussing them so that women don’t feel ashamed to share the news and instead suffer alone what is already a heart-wrenching and isolating experience. thanks again for sharing!
I definitely relate to Richard's view of "Soulmates". It's like the prompt being "You enjoy driving 'Tesla Mustangs'. Well of course not because they don't exist; BUT I chose to drive the car that I am over any other car and I constantly make that conscious choice every day. And the fact that they had not talked about it actually says so much more for their relationship: they've never felt the need to "validate" it with an "are you my soulmate" question. Clearly he makes her feel like that was never even in question. And on top of that, his view is that she is also making that choice every day even though it is a "feeling" that she has. I think people sometimes put too much emphasis on the labels and don't look at the substance.
I would have to agree with this. There was another episode I remember seeing in a different format that was a Valentine's Day special from a couple years ago, and there was more honesty and diversity in the selected couples and their responses. What I will give credit to though is when McKenzie opened up about her struggles with miscarriage.
"What I can't handle is seeing you hurt." THERE IS NOT ENOUGH APPRECIATION FOR THIS HEARTFELT EMOTION ❤🥺
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@@nelsondendomo6687 ig not
@@nelsondendomo6687 just 2.2k people agreeing without having anything to say about it, beautiful and exactly like it should be I guess
@@nelsondendomo6687 Nah, they just silently agreed 💀. Tho you guys can talk if you want lol
I dealing with this now. My gf came out to her family for me/her and instead received so much hate and rejection. I don’t understand why people can’t just let others be happy. It’s not about religion or what’s in the Bible just let us do what we love while we are on this earth for who knows how long.
I wish they brought more of an elderly couple, would be interesting to hear their perspective on marriage.
yessss old couples are so wholesome 🥺
That would be so awesome and cute to see!!
There’s already enough videos on that 🙄
@@aak1992 where?
Me too!!! That would have been a wonderful perspective!
They should do this with couples who have had children and years together.
I'd do it! My husband and I will be 19 years as a couple on Feb 18. Our 17th wedding anniversary was Aug 25, 2021. We've raised four sons together and survived three combat deployments with the Army, as well. I'd watch that episode, long term couples with kiddos.
@@GenXfrom75 congrats
@@aarxn7 thanks 😊
FACTS! haha
Absolutely! Children change everything.
When she cried about how she can't see her hurt because of her family being homophobic.❤
made my heart hurt cuz made me think of my fam where I get the passive agressive acceptance. The whole "I don't approve of your choices, but I still love you" which almost hurts more than just outright unnacceptance cuz it feels like I'm only accepted because they feel they have to cuz im their kid. I dont understand why people can't just love their children completely for who they are, reglardless of who that is.
@@Lvl1Critters you just explained my entire situation lol
@@Lvl1Critters they have the right to not support that choice
@@nelsondendomo6687 It's not a choice
@Gavin Reed gender expression does not equals sexuality.
My heart goes out to McKenzie🦋💕 you are not at fault for the miscarriages🦋 pregnancy is complex and several things, out of your control, could go wrong.
It broke my heart to hear her blaming herself. Like you stated pregnancy is so complex
Such a lovely message to say to her! I hope she reads this. You are completely right xx
I just hate that he didn't hug her :/
@@wendyjimenez8987 agree 😢
When you say she isn't at fault, what exactly are you saying? Obviously there are things out of her control. Are you saying that there is no possibility that there may be something she can do that might help prevent another miscarriage? That's quite a bold and unhelpful claim if you ask me. I understand you are compelled to express compassion, but this sentiment can be interpreted in a way that is accross purpose.
Tyler’s wife crying about their miscarriage while he just stands there lol GIVE HER A HUG
At first I thought that too. But then I stepped back and remembered that not everyone is okay with a lot of physical touch. Also, when I'm upset and someone gives me a hug, it legit just makes me cry more. So maybe he knows her boundaries/how she would react. Also he might be grieving in a different way and him hugging her would open floodgates he wouldn't want to show on the internet. That's how I'm choosing to see it.
He just kept dancing lol
@@Moondragon1821 Yeah, maybe let's not jump to judging people off of a thirty second clip. We don't know about their lives or how they prefer to grieve.
People have different love languages, boundaries and preferences!! Normalize that. I for one do not like ppl touching me unless it’s in a sexual context TBH which has to do with childhood trauma, but it’s not comforting as it may be to some people!!
That was kind of pissing me off, like dude console your wife
It’s interesting that the 2 couples who rushed into marriage were the only couples who considered divorced 🤔
It makes sense, they probably didn’t have enough time to work the bugs out of the differences and communication issues that only tend to emerge after some period of time ..
The asian couple married in less than a year too tho.
This is a small sample size or data if u r trying to make an argument
@@cybernexus4233 True, but the divorce rate nevertheless is high.
I would of like some long relationships on here. I just don't get people who rush into a marriage, like I've been in long relationships that ended, I feel like 5 years is the mark of breakups, you make it passed that with nothing holding you together like a kid then you'll do much better long term
I love this conversation! Especially how authentic and raw Eden and Jay were. I only wish they had a more diverse marriage range. Like different stages of marriages. All of these couples seemed rather young, no kids, new to marriage.
Yes! Agree 100%
Yeahh i agree too, i would have like to see a wider range. Like ideally, it would have been the 4 we got (they were all great) but then have like a male gay couple, a interracial couple, an older couple like 55+ with like grandkids and then a couple who are like in the middle like 25-36 with a kid and stuff.
Also divorced and remarried people
It was interesting to see how different apparently similar situations can be though! As you said, as a family these couples were fairly similar (no kids, young...) And yet they had their unique struggles and strengths and languages!
I'd like another video with different kinds of couple (especially older people) too 😊
I also wish there was maybe like an interracial couple. (Eden and jay might be) Just something. cause no offense to these couples but they all look very similar to each other. And marriage is already hard but I wish they would have added that extra layer with an interracial marriage. To breech into a sub topic.
All the couples were wonderful but I absolutely love Eden and Jay!! They portray such an honesty and healthy relationship. ❤❤❤❤
And it doesn't hurt that they're both hot. How can someone be homophobic around them?!!!
FR!!!
@@eastlakefilms9407 huhhhh
@@thebrinksf69 Lmfao doesn't matter how "hot" someone is or what they look like to accept them - homophobic people will be homophobic regardless.
Yes!!
6:07 "It's fine if you want to go marry someone else and have kids because I know I can't provide that".
Geesh that one hurt to hear 🥺🥺
Nah that miscarriage talk was sad
@Gavin Reed value to what standard or definition? Shush
Why cant she tho?
@Gavin Reed eww this is disgusting.
Hi Jubilee, I speak for everyone when I say:
“We don’t mind watching a 30-minute video”.
Please make these longer so we get the chance to hear from more people on the same prompts.
Omg yes!
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YES PLEASE!! I want to see ALLL the answers
FACTS, i wanted to know why that guy from the other couple hated his wife's family.
This!!!!!
I adore the same sex couple. So vulnerable, raw, and beautiful.
@Gavin Reed you don’t need to comment the same thing 725898 times
@@LY-wl3uf lmfaooo
Thank you 🥺 we tried to fit so much love into so little time
@Gavin Reed dude we get it u don't have to make the same comment a 1000 times
@Gavin Reed you’re mad butt hurt and it’s sad that you need to vent that badly about it. Please go get off the internet and do some internal healing
"When I marry you, I gain a family" is beautiful
The homophobic parent part made me emotional because I feel so bad for people who have to go through it. My family is supportive of me and I’m so grateful
Eden is literally the first bisexual woman that I've seen that's married to another woman. What a pleasant thing to see :) (saying this as a bi woman myself)
I think this is quite interesting because I’ve met and know plenty of bisexuals who are in LTR or are married to women.
Agreed. This is the reason behind the biphobia. It's because at the end of the road. The bi person always chooses the opposite sex to get an easy life without discrimination. To please their family. And to have kids.
So, for a Bi woman to choose another woman is not common. Bi people need to be brave and choose the gay partner , stop hiding, and choose the easy choice.
yeah... as a Bi woman myself, Ive had lesbian girls I'm about to date or starting ''something'' with, turn around or generally don't accept my liking for men aswell :( I was with a guy once that said ''nah ill turn you straight'' and Ive also been with a girl that said ''you dont actually like men though, ill make you forget about it'' and damn... but now I'm in a relationship with a guy that really accepts me and so far so great , 2 years together. I don't really see bisexual women married to other women as much as lesbians tbh.. :'(
I have a bi female friend who married a woman :)
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Kudos for Richard and his "controversial" take. I personally don't believe in soulmates, but I do subscribe to the belief that all relationships are two-way streets so and requires effort to maintain them, so you must choose to put work in everyday. They happier you are while giving that effort, the better the quality of your relationship.
Exactly! If one person is always putting in all the work it gets really draining
Agree. Imo, soulmates are made, not born.
I agree!! he had the right idea
Agree about his take. I just hope that he and his partner talk more about deep things like that in the future. His partner seemed surprised by his response. Might just have been the way it was edited together, though.
i really agree with what he said and appreciate his thoughtfulness
The two women seem absolutely wonderful. I want a partner that complements me the way they do.
Thank you for your kind words! 🥺 we know you’ll manifest that person
@Gavin Reed no source, f off
@Gavin Reed Liar. Get a life
@Gavin Reed Gavin, please provide that source my dude. Men are actually much more likely to be abusive than women...
@Gavin Reed yes okay we get it. you’re going through the comments and saying things that don’t always describe a certain situation you have no background on. not every person on earth fits perfectly into the statements you’re making
I wish her husband had hugged or at least comforted her when she became emotional talking about the miscarriage.
OMG I was thinking exact that. Like DUDEEE hug her
@@pratyashabasu5046 YEAH especially when she started talking about how he should marry someone else
It was hard to watch. He didn't seem emotionally supportive at all (in that moment, at least.)
Glad I'm not the only one thinking that. She looked to him several times for confirmation, but he just stood there staring at the floor.
@@karumschlag You don't know these people.
Bro the most healthiest relationship out of all of them is only eden and jays!!! How transparent they are to each other but also keeps the relationship enticing and how they got each other backs and how healthy their communication is, serious serious major goal of mine
Mic drop! Thank you so much for this comment. We’ve always been transparent and supportive of each other and we’re so happy you were able to see it ❤️
So not even Charles and Amber????
only? The other weren’t perfect obviously but some seems pretty ok plus this video just a short part
Yah it was nice that wasn’t just being more accepted by most online because of being lgbt
No, Charlie and Amber is also an amazing and healthy couple.
I started dating my boyfriend when i was 19 and now 5 years later people are like “are you guys not going to get married?” and im like “guys im just 23” 😂
same but we started dating when i was 16 and now im 23 and feel pressured to get married but we're both so young..
@@gaj30 its funny how life works, the brother of my boyfriend has 38 and was also dating a woman for 5 years and they got married last year. My view for getting married implies some things as a stable job + a house and at least 28 years 😂
Hi ladies, 2yrs is more than enough time to "just date"... anything beyond that without thinking/leading to marriage is just a waste of the (woman's) time. If you are worried about being too young or not experienced enough, then just end it and keep dating new people until you find what you want.
I emphasis waste of a woman's time because men do not have biological clocks so they can take however long they want, and the longer they are able to get away with fairly guaranteed sex without having to commit to marriage, the more likely they will stay in that relationship.
@@iamgosa i cant have nor do i want children, there's no clock here. also we're the ones choosing not to rush into marriage because we'd like to have more and be more stable before making a decision like that so i dont know what you're talking about
are you french perhaps??
The lesbian couple is BEAUTIFUL
McKenzie, it is not your fault, if you cant have them naturally, there are other options! don't be sad!
It is perfectly okay to be sad if you cannot have biological children naturally and not everyone can afford expensive medical intervention. Let's not tell other people how to feel about their problems.
@Gavin Reed read the room gavin
@Gavin Reed are you a women hater? you won't stop hating on the lesbian couple and now you're blaming mckenzie for her miscarriage
@Gavin Reed we don’t know their reason for why she has miscarriages. Apart from weight it could be fibroids, PCOS, endometriosis, cysts and etc. there are many different and common health issues women face. So let’s not assume she’s having fertility issues because she’s “overweight” and not “skinny”.
@@doraowusu8705
He never said anything about being skinny though. Being overweight is a major factor. But I do hope she betters herself. She seems like a great person
kinda bare minimum but it makes my gay heart happy seeing a gay married couple. thank you for showing what different marriages look like 🖤
That’s why I love Jubilee, they always include gay couples
Jubilee has more stuff like that On middle ground, they have more lgbt rated topics, if you want more of that you can check it out.
ikr, these youtube channels really carrying my whole lgbt questions while irl I have to keep pretending i'm something im not... love you jubilee
Jesus loves you--
@@trivetteamy ????
As a young queer woman this lesbian couple is everything I aspire to be and have in my future. I hope only the best for them!
McKenzie had me crying abt the child conversation. I am so sorry for her loss & struggles & pain. For whatever it’s worth, I want her to know, she is worthy regardless of fertility. She deserves the best. 🥰
Hey! It’s McKenzie! Thank you so much for you kind words 😊 it means so much!
Right!! You offer so much more value as a woman other than being able to birth kids. It honestly really rubbed me the wrong way how the husband was nodding along. If mine didn't jump the bullet and interrupt me to say that im being foolish and he married me for more than kids, i would divorce on the spot tbh
@@Jollumon Hey! It’s McKenzie from the video! My husband comforts me the way I like. We have had this conversation already and I know how he feels. I was just talking about my insecurities. You don’t know what goes on after the cameras turn off.
@@mckenzieriniker244 for sure! And i wasnt giving a judgement for you guys i was just saying how I would expect my spouse to act. Im glad to hear he supports you
I can tell Jay and Eden will be really amazing moms one day. They seem like a really caring couple with a really great bond
This is a lovely video, but I definitely would have liked more included from everyone! Maybe there wasn’t as much discussion but I felt like each round of questions cut off so quickly. If you guys have more footage I’d love to hear more from this group.
Agree. I am very interested to get to know more about these persons.
I agree with Richard on the concept of soulmates.
My opinion is, there is no single person meant for you. There are many people with compatible personalities to us in the world and we just click with one of them.
You choose eachother, and stay with eachother because that's what you and your partner want and I think that's beautiful. The two of you aren't together because it was something that was meant to happen but it's something the you wanted to happen.
Let's follow your logic and see where it takes us. If there are 'many people' that are compatible with your personality, couldn't we just section of bit by bit the ones that are most compatible with you. At the end of that process you would have found your so called soulmate. I think the reason people buy into the idea that soul mates don't exist is so that they can cope with the fact that they're not ambitious enough to go find their one.
@@zakaria8613 I disagree with that. I think that people buy into soulmates existing because they are too lazy to do the work in a relationship. The power of choosing someone yourself is much more divine than some outside force that chooses for you. 🤷🏾♀️
I like the controversial take about soulmates. I think it's even more romantic in a way, because it gives more agency to both partners. We didn't happen because we were meant to be, we happened because we chose this and continue to.
definitely. I dont get why the ppl in the comments are giving him crap for it
@@nicolelanae98 I agree and I also think that soulmate is singular what if I thought the same thing about the last person I was with? To me then it loses meaning.
@@nicolelanae98 you really don’t get why people would disagree with his sentiments? there’s obviously multiple viewpoints.
The question was is your PARTNER your soulmate NOT your definition of one. She was flat out embarrassed and I would be too.
@@alexisclarke2064 I understand how it could hurt her feelings, and especially if they have never talked about this before this definitely wasn't the best setting to have this conversation for the first time. But I also think if you don't believe in soulmates, it would be wrong to say your partner is your soulmate, because it would be a lie.
That soulmate question was awkward for the woman who’s husband disagreed lol.
You know, I don’t believe in soulmates either though, but I hope to find someone who feels sooo right for me. And then I would consider that person like a soulmate even if I don’t believe in the “supernatural” connotation of the word
I have that person. Like, i know they are the one and we are destined to be
exactly I dont believe in the supernatural but I want that one person who's like my partner in crime
Lol I think it’s great how they can disagree and feel safe enough to express their honest opinions
People who get married before even knowing each other for a year are crazy to me 😳
Getting married before ever living together is another crazy thing.
You see a WHOLE different side of someone once you start living with them.
@@AmiriHipHop yes exactly!!!! and i feel like that could be applied to intimacy in a way
@@AmiriHipHop weirdly enough I’ve seen more marriages fail from people who lived together before getting married than people who hadn’t lived together prior to marriage
Fr like a year passes by so quick already how can someone just up and marry less than a year
@@mauve9266 probably because most couples already live together before they get married? personally i dont know ANYBODY who married a person they didnt live with. mayne its different in the us but here in europe its rather unheard of
Eden’s experience with bisexuality is EXACTLY how I feel and I’m so excited to see someone else who feels that way about having “choose” end up with someone they’re confident in marrying ❤️ also love the femme representation!!
the femme representation ?? Girl what??? most representation of wlw on the internet are extremely feminine
@@lilymcmanaway i was referring to real life couples babe
@@lilymcmanaway I disagree, most of what i grew up with was masc & fem, rather than 2 very feminine women. Especially when representing a marriage.
@@lilymcmanaway not true at all 🤣 hardly see femme on femme women getting representation in the media but keep telling yourself that , love
@@xoxothx hey bestie, look up the last 5 years of sapphic/lesbian shows. Like 5% is butch or masc. hope that helps, love ❣❣
I think past trauma and experiences should be unpacked before marriage.
I'd say it's immaturity for the most part, since communication comes with patience, and trauma could take years to unfold.
@@aus-li yes and I think that period of time of communication should be before marrying, there should be no rush and a healthy marriage should be transparent.
Depending on the complexity of traumas, it can be long and difficult to unpack within a lifetime, let alone before getting married.
that's pretty unfair to say, since some traumas extremely hard to "unpack" and can take decades to, even then maybe not 100%.
@@avocado184nhs82 I understand your point but from my perspective, with my traumas I think transparency would be important or my partner wouldn't understand certain reactions and boundaries. I just think somebody your married to would want to know and it would be healing to share that pain with them.
I identify as bisexual as well and the last thing that's been said actually brought tears to my eyes. I always miss something in a person no matter if I was with men or women. There was always something I craved. I felt like a person who's not able to provide unconditional love and that made me feel horrible. And hearing someone talk about that "one person" that's enough and always will be enough is beautiful and gives me so much faith. Now I know that I can find that one person too that I'll call my home. Thank you so much. This means everything.
@Gavin Reed chill.
@Gavin Reed who hurted you?
This guys got issues. Feeling super bad for your unlucky partner
@Gavin Reed maybe to you it doesnt exist
@Gavin Reed if you've never loved someone unconditionally or had someone love you unconditionally I feel bad for you. But considering you're also the one that keeps bringing up divorce rates in lesbian couples even though they seem perfectly happy makes a lot of sense why you think unconditional love is false.
This was such a great episode! Literally every prompt was incredible and all the couples had such different life experiences.
Some of those prompts had me wondering if the couples would be able to answer honestly 😂 Indeed they were incredible
6:54 such pain, but also such compassion. I really, really want to give her a hug. For she has great empathy. And then the other one saying "when I married you I gained a family" was even harder on the tears.
I really enjoyed hearing what the couples had to say about everything. Thank you!
I feel for Eden, that’s the exact reason I don’t like my future MIL. We’re a hetero couple but interracial and she hates the fact he’s with an American and not Indian woman. And she breaks him down almost every conversation and tries to tell him he owes her his autonomy and his choices because she raised him. She tries to guilt him and make him feel terrible just for being happy. And no mother should do that to their child and it’s hard being the significant other because all you can be is a shoulder to cry on.
@Rohan Daliyet yea it sounds like a Indian family who married a white American.
me absolutely sobbing as the same-sex couple talked about unaccepting families. y’all are a beautiful couple and i wish y’all the best 💕💕
Jay and Eden are so beautiful, they seem to trust and love each other so much 🥺💖
I love that Amber person she’s so hilarious and quirky and bubbly.
Yes! I would totally marry her or someone like her
Dude, she’s hot!
She's weird
she loves sayin "iykyk"
she and charlie literally have the same vibes. totally made since that they were married
I audibly gasped when Richard went the other way on the soulmate question
My face was like 😬😬😬 the entire time lmao!
RIGHHHHTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!!!
That soul mate question just broke a marriage ... I see the pain
Na I understood his answer
@@paulallen2919 a lot of people didn't in this chat. I don't know why, he gave a valid point.
THE LESBIAN COUPLE HAS MY HEART OMG 🥺 you can really see the love they have for each other and it’s really beautiful 🥰 had me tearing up ngl
8:06 "When I married you, I gained a family" - fuck that hit home. Happy I have a family I can share with her.
I can't handle this, this is so sweet. I almost cried like, three times, especially at the end. My heart swells at the way Jay and Eden talk about each other.. and gosh, the way Charlie looks at Amber at 10:50. I'm so happy these couples have each other!
Can you do an episode of spectrum with lgbtq+ kids? As a kid who is in the lgbtq+ it would be nice to see other people of my age group in my community in a video format like this. Or maybe straight kids and lgbtq+ in an episode of middle ground
Richard gonna be sleeping on the couch today
McKenzie needs a hug from her husband right here 5:50. Shes literally asking for one, you can tell by the way shes looking over. MASSIVE L for Tyler here...💔
THANK YOU!
Jay and Eden
I remember watching a video featuring Charlie and Amber before.. but I can't remember what it was about. So glad to see that they are still super cute together and thriving
It was the one where couples think the same. Online at the time. Find the title where it says do couple’s think the same about cheating.
There were in the Spectrum: Couples episode that was a Zoom version
Is it from that buzzfeed video where couples pick out tattoos for each other?! I remember watching that video a long time ago & I immediately recognized them in the thumbnail! They’re so cute!
Lesbian couple got me like wow. they're amazing
the wlw couple is so inspiring 🥺💗
Eden and Jay give me such hope for honest and healthy queer relationships.
Tyler couldn't even spare a hug for his wife McKenzie....????? while she was breaking down crying.....???? Bro
Hey! It’s McKenzie haha. I don’t like being hugged while I’m crying and trying to speak 😅 so he knows me well enough not to haha
Everything about the same sex couple is goals. Hope things turn out well for you two
🤢🤮
Richard is gonna get a lotta grief on the way home
My heart is with McKenzie and it was nice to hear them bring to light how “taboo” it is to talk about pregnancy loss. A lot of people have only surface level knowledge of pregnancy, fertility, and female bodies and a lot of these comments prove that. I’m sure that couple is pouring everything into their fertility journey. Baby dust to them 🌈
Thank you so much! This comment means the world 🥰
I also feel for them, because there are folks who have child pretty effortlessly. I'm sure "unfair" doesn't begin to describe their pain and frustration.
It’s the VISIBLE compassion on Charlie’s face as McKenzie is talking about the miscarriages, for me!!! You could see he was almost about to cry🥺
Charlie was so sweet to me! Everyone truly was haha.
that guy that said he doesn't believe in soul mates the same way his wife does, her face 🧐
The system is just messed up. If couples really wants to have kids or at least adopt kids, the couples should receive more help than what they are actually getting from the government.
I always see Jay and Eden online I’m glad they participated in this video sending them so much love I hope they can be happy together for a long time.
"When I married you, I gained a family."
I almost trip over with my iPhone when I saw this. Lol you can tell this is going to be interesting. I love topics like this.
i was a boy. they were 138 girls. can i make it any more obvious? thats right, i had a crazy dream last night. HAHAHAHAHA!!! im the funniest youtube star ever. youre welcome for laughing dear leo
Richard’s definition of Soulmate is so wrong. I felt bad for Angela.
Eden gave the perfect definition of Soulmate. I love how she broke down the meaning of it based on her life/relationship experience.
jay and eden 🥺❤️
The two women are everything I want to have in a relationship
Eden and Jay have just stolen my heart❤️❤️🥺🥺
I just want to give Mckenzie a big hug and tell her that it isn't her fault and she's doing the best she can and that is such a hard thing to go through, thoughts and Prayers -Ellie
Richard definitely got an ear full on the way home after that soulmate rant 🤣🤣
Mckenzie.. my heart goes out to you. I felt every word. Im sitting here in tears on Valentines day... I was hopeful that I would finally get a positive test, but instead my second IUI failed. This is the hardest thing my husband and I have ever gone through together and I have never felt a heartache like this. Sending you baby dust.💕
was anyone else upset with McKenzie's husband for not comforting her as she cried?
This is real life, not a romantic drama
just because that what you would've wanted doesnt mean the same for everyone. Everyone has different way of coping. To many, it makes them even more sad to touch them in a situation like this
@@nelsondendomo6687 lmao you're so right
The couple in white gave me the ick. Idk why but there's something that comes off inauthentic about them in all of their screentime. As if they are trying too hard to force an image of a perfect/happy relationship.
Exactly
I can totally relate to how McKenzie feels. Me and my husband also had three miscarriages. The recent ones were last year and the year before. I don’t think my husband will ever leave me but I can’t help but still feel worthless
Hey! It’s McKenzie! You are so amazing! I am so sorry you’ve had to deal with this too. I wish you the best in your journey and I’m always here to be a listening ear if you ever need it!
@@mckenzieriniker244 thank you so much 😊 it’s been two years since my miscarriages and no matter how much someone assured me that it’s going to be ok I still feel heartache. Some days I’m ok and some I’m not
Obsessed with Eden & Jay, they were so raw. Also their outfits were amazing.
i love eden and jay. they seem like they were truly meant for each other and actually love each other
Respect to the families who participated in this
eden and jay
Me : “I believe in soulmates”
Also me : forever alone
Same girl same lol
🥲
Well that makes sense actually 😆
One long relationship and you’ll be convinced there’s nothing divine or cosmic about love - it’s just a commitment
Miscarriages are extremely hard.
Even the thought of doing a recording for a show a week after we had ours sounds terrible, let alone it being the third miscarriage.
Thank you for sharing, you aren’t alone.
What the hell Tyler your WIFE is crying about her miscarriage and you’re looking at her like
👁👄👁
She mentioned on the comment section that she hates being hugged whilst crying.
It is heart breaking that McKenzie blames herself for something so out of her control and that happens to a large number of pregnancies regardless of what people do to try to minimize the chances of it happening. Just the fact that she got pregnant is something to be proud of. I hope things get better for her
Thank you so much! That means the world to me 🥰
I really appriciate McKenzie talking about her miscarriages. They're so common and need to be talked about more so women don't feel alone or like its their fault and so partners know how best to support them.
it’s not awkward to talk about miscarriages. i don’t feel awkward listening to you, though i do think you’re really strong and appreciate you sharing with us! miscarriages happen to millions of women and occur in 10-20% or 1 in 8 of all pregnancies, and we need to normalise discussing them so that women don’t feel ashamed to share the news and instead suffer alone what is already a heart-wrenching and isolating experience. thanks again for sharing!
Eden and Jay are so adorable! I love the way they look at each other; like they are so in love.
The chemistry between Charlie & Amber is so cute. I hope they keep the stardust in their eyes for the next 50 years. 😍🥰
adored this video, v well done
The lesbian couple is so cute, I love their style! 🥰
Strongly agree with Amber on the Rhino and Hedgehog perspective.
I definitely relate to Richard's view of "Soulmates". It's like the prompt being "You enjoy driving 'Tesla Mustangs'. Well of course not because they don't exist; BUT I chose to drive the car that I am over any other car and I constantly make that conscious choice every day. And the fact that they had not talked about it actually says so much more for their relationship: they've never felt the need to "validate" it with an "are you my soulmate" question. Clearly he makes her feel like that was never even in question. And on top of that, his view is that she is also making that choice every day even though it is a "feeling" that she has. I think people sometimes put too much emphasis on the labels and don't look at the substance.
How Tyler didn't touch his wife when she broke down seemed awkward to me . Just me?
I don’t like to be touched when crying! He comforted me though haha. Don’t worry!
I was about to leave a certain comment, but after watching this, I just can’t. Love is love. It’s something I’m jealous of I guess…
Can we all just appreciate how well-dressed the couple in front are
This is probably one of favorites y’all have ever recorded.
These lesbians need to stop making me cry 😭
I feel like these questions were a bit too surface level
I would have to agree with this. There was another episode I remember seeing in a different format that was a Valentine's Day special from a couple years ago, and there was more honesty and diversity in the selected couples and their responses. What I will give credit to though is when McKenzie opened up about her struggles with miscarriage.
5:51 why is he just standing there? he should have comforted her... like wtf? supportive husband of the year award goes to-
Not everyone likes to be touched tho
@@realSimoneCherie THANK YOU! I hate being hugged while I’m trying to talk while crying
I mean, he did everything I wanted him to! So I’m okay with it haha
The soulmate question was a great one! I’m still thinking about it…
Soulmate, why does that need to be tied to only one person, also why is it equally tied inte romantic relationships?
exactly. i feel like people only think you can receive love when its romantic
10:51 pls the way he looks at her :( i need someone to look at me like that
I love this one! I can't even disagree with any of the points and it was a real tear-jerker. Bravo!
I am missing middle ground episode. Those are my favourite types of ep in jubilee.