Use my code AUSTINERUPTION to get $5 off your delicious, healthy Magic Spoon cereal by clicking this link: magicspoon.com/AUSTINERUPTION Also check the description. I read a comment the other day that made me think hard to myself so I included a Song List and will try to do that going forward! FINALLY, Metal Gear Survive is done! That was... one of the longest videos on the channel as well as some of the most effort. Let's just say... I didn't sleep last night. Also to date this video, i'm gonna take a nap and then watch ric flair's last match with bated breath. QUESTION OF THE DAY! After watching this, do you think you'll try Metal Gear Survive?
It’s infuriating that they have probably the best engine for third person shooters ever made, they had metal gear online which they just let die, and they’re sitting on the tech doing fuck all with it. No ambition, no weird ideas, not even shitty games. Just nothing.
From what I remember reading at the time, the Fox engine suffers from most of the same problems as Square Enix's Luminous engine. Sure, it's super powerful and genuinely amazing, but you need to be able to program in both Japanese and English, it's super complicated, and Unreal does 90% of the same stuff much easier. Sometimes it's hard to justify a boutique engine.
that's kind of why everyone hates Konami now. They just rake in their money from mobile games and call it a day and don't let anyone else touch their IP's despite many many others being able to do it better.
Rather than zombies, I think the game would have been more well-received had the premise been something along the lines of a soldier trapped behind enemy lines having to escape/survive against overwhelming odds, with a focus on stealth and survival mechanics with the player having to manage their hunger, thirst and sleep while also avoiding enemy patrols. I'd have certainly given it shot in that scenario.
yea but that would take effort or a dev team that even wanted to make it in the first place. ( you can tell how much the devs for survive didn't want to make this game xD )
+Sobari Wait, how would base building work there? @@vanconojl Wouldn't it take less effort, like removing features and not even making a new model for enemies?
@@Bezaliel13 not at all since a good map requires a lot of planning and testing for a balance and fun/challenging experience it would take way more effort than a shitty zombie tower defense to program all the enemy patrol behaviors+ pathfinding for the AI and effort is something that konami hates.
@@vanconojl Why would they have not had it still be a tower defense game in that "behind enemy lines" scenario? Opposing gunfire? Honestly, bit unfair to say they would definitely have made a new map just because of human enemies.
@@Bezaliel13 they would if any amount of *EFFORT* was used for this theoretical game effort SURVIVE devs didn't really have and i don't blame then i would also hate to work on such a game (survive) for konami *especially* after all the abuse konami did to all the people employed at Kojima's team (also the other employees, man fuck konami...)
I think the point of Kojima’s quote is that when you strip all of the spicy and weird elements in Metal Gear Games, it’s root story and overarching messages are always about politics and espionage. There’s a lot of weird things in Metal Gear but they’re never the center story at hand, unlike how Survive is a zombie tower defense game in story and gameplay all the way through.
Eh, Austin missed that the place is the deep future, and the Lord of Dust is a grey goo event. Which is actually the biggest danger of nanomachines. So they actually did try there.
Even MGR:R, the one where you play as Robocop if he were a ninja slashing up watermelons and other ridiculous characters with a lightning sword, even that has a lot of blatant commentary about authoritarianism
The gameplay Kojima’s team put together for MGS V is by far the best third person shooter mechanics I’ve ever played. I’m surprised some of that translated to survive as an asset flip.
Alot of the time when I see a video title like "I did X so you don't have to" I still feel like I want to do the thing they did. But this is the first one that comes to mind, where I go "Yeah I don't want to do this"
Me too but I paused it and am leaving the vid cuz I took him at his word that he actually 100% beat it and was stoked to see how awful that'd be but I'm at least glad he let me know he lied and clickbaited before he got into it.
To clarify when Kojima said he wanted to finish with it every step along the way... He meant since Mgs 1 on the Playstation. You can end the series at any point of the MGS time line and you'd be correct to say it's the directors idea of a canonical ending.
Kojima never wanted MG to end, he wanted to share it to his staff. Basically he just wanted to personally stop working on it while the staff was continuing it.
I find it hard to imagine the franchise ending before 4 though. I could do without V when it comes to the story alone. But its gameplay is so good so I find it hard to imagine a world without V for that reason. Anyway, there's plenty of other routes they could have taken when it comes to the story of V, and I would never have missed the story of the game we got. It's just a bridging gaps kind of story. @LordEmmerich Right. And it became clear to him that he had to do it himself, because he wasn't happy with what the team was doing on their own. They even had a program that was about teaching others to work like Kojima. Despite that, the others couldn't come up with something on his level. If I recall correctly, that was before MGS3.
@@DanSmeed no, fans would just send death threats anytime someone other than Kojima started working on it. It wasn't about "oh I have to do it myself". Kojima-stans would just threatene their way into getting what they want. He didn't even want to helm MGS4.
The one thing that really stood out to me when the game was coming out was despite the fact Konomi did hand out review copies, no one could even play it or review it until after release day, not due to any review embargos, but because the game was online only and the servers weren't up until like a day after release.
This is the thing that makes the game just not fun. Worse yet is that your base still loses resources and your NPC recruits can still get ill even when you don't logon to play. So you're never safe and the game basically forces you to stay married to it at all times.
The irony is that Hideo has publicly stated he wanted to do a Zombie-esk game a few times. I'm sure he was just throwing shade because he was salty he was fired.
@@dragonpee not every game Hideo wanted to make were MGS, he specifically said he was fed up with constantly making games for that singular IP when he wanted to make new games. He didn't say zombie games bad he said zombie MGS is bad.
"Where do zombies fit into that?" I dunno, you tell me, Hideo. Considering there were zombies in MGS5, along with a flaming unicorn, a pyromancer, a reanimated demonic Volgin, a whale made out of fire, and bootleg Strogg soldiers.
@@demoliman probably a reference to Moby Dick, MGSV was announced as a random game from a developer called Moby Dick games, that prologue is full of Moby Dick references like "Ishmael" and "Ahab" And Moby Dick is a whale
I like a good survival game, but god damn, Konami really shot themselves in the foot of releasing a zombie survival game immediately after splitting with Kojima. It doesn't matter how playable the game is, Zombie saturation was at peak when MG survive was released, booting your star dev to chase a trend that your IP had no prior connection to was dumb. I don't know why anyone would pay for a game that's on life support, it's amazing Konami kept it up for as long as it is.
I mean he killed 80 million on V and a quarter of that money didn't even go for V. So even if they wanted to keep him, Hideo just shot himself in the foot to try and get fired with shit like that
@@digimonrockers6732 That would be too much, but if the full price for development for that game was that it is pretty normal for AAA Game development cost. Most in the industry consider 50-60 Million the base margin for the difference between AA and AAA, and especially for an entry garanteed to sell well like the fifth Metal Gear and most likey last one regardless of Kojima x Konami disputes and an Open World sandbox one at that. If the 80 Million was the total, even if overbudgeting the fault is in Konami for not caring enough to ask for an openworld AAA game from Kojima that costed less, they should be grateful for having a franchise and devs who can make great and acclaimed products that will be well received and turn in more profit and new loyal consumers in the future. Sounds more like the new CEO didn’t really like nor care for videogames and threw any part of the company around it instantly as soon as he took over, while trying to minimize the cost of that.
Kojima repeatedly went over budget for MGSV and for his entire tenure as Vice President of Konami all the games released under him (Castlevania: lords of Shadow, Z.O.E HD collection etc) all underperformed. He had his personal lawyers remove all traces of an interview from the internet in which a translator for MGS1 talked about how Kojima can't write a good story to save his life and he'd be laughed out of any Hollywood writing room because he was salty about it... The only game that sold well was MGSV but even then it wasn't a huge sales success in comparison to other major releases at the time. He was on his way out no matter what tbh.
it isn't because of zombies being in the game, nobody was tired of zombies, it's because of how Konami treated Kojima and the fan loyalty to Kojima, nobody who ever hates on this game, say they do because of zombies being a tired concept
@@PlaidSuitPinstripeWorld You have to remember how abusive Konami was. Of course one of their employees would say something bad about someone they think of as underneath them, that was like, part of when their employees were coming out to talk about just how bad it was. Verbal abuse and literally being constantly monitored like they were prisoners was (and might still be) a normal day at Konami. It doesn't surprise me they weren't able to get the best games out while having Konami higher ups constantly doing everything they could to make sure they wouldn't be able to just focus on developing games. Would you try in a job that treats you like actual garbage, or would you just float through until they decide to finally fire you?
"It's so wiggly...Why" I was not expecting this and wasn't even looking at the screen until the very second he showed the hat wiggling and I actually died laughing
I played the online mode of this with a friend. Fun fact: If you don't play any story mode at all, you have a shitton of locked features in the online modes, so I was just kinda running around with the starting gear and slapping zombies. The best part of the game, by far, is the fact that the Fox Engine lets you play baseball with thrown grenades.
There's one important detail that you missed. The "storage area" is the future. They're _deep_ in the future of the Metal Gear Solid universe, which fell to a grey goo event from nanomachines. That's... actually the biggest problem with nanomachines.
The thing about the people with telekinesis, the cyborgs, the vampire and the ghost in Metal Gear Solid is that they were being used as weapons or assets by their goverments or the leader of their faction, just like Big Boss or Solid Snake were used, and it's a reference to the Cold War era when military was looking for people with special abilities to work with (or for) them. In Survive you are in an alternate dimension filled with zombies because everyone likes TWD at the moment.
I'm honestly surprised Konami hadn't pulled the plug on the servers by now. I mean there are people playing it but it's not the kind of numbers you'd expect a publisher to be OK with continuing to run, but then Babylon's Fall hasn't shut down...yet.
I think it’s still bringing them money actually. The game has a dedicated fan base and the charges are really small for something that makes the game a lot more fun. It’s definitely happening soon though.
Well I’d say there’s no way the pachinko n gacha games are bringing in more money then what a good game for one of their classic locked away franchises would but evidently I’m wrong and there must be a very lucrative market for it if they keep going
@@revalution1965 I mean i can't say this 100% as there may be things i'm missing but i was sure the reason Konami went fully into Pachinko was because they were making SO much more money with relatively small resource costs compared to the money required to make a game. The returns on them is just so much higher...well it was before, you know, the 'event' that shut everything down.
Metal Gear Survive still brings in money through microtransactions. The fact that Metal Gear Survive is making more money than some new games (like Babylon's Fall) signifies that Metal Gear Survive is a cult success. Obviously not a huge success, but Metal Gear Survive's cult following has allowed it to earn a profit each month.
@@johnpenguinthe3rd13 I can vouch for this yeah. It strikes a balance in the survival game genre that not many others have, so it has got a loyal fan base!
I just want to bring up why the oxygen mask doesn't appear at 13:12 is because you have the bandana head item equipped. For whatever reason, all head cosmetics in the extra slot just disable the mask model completely.
To be fair the head cosmetics include a full pyramid head and a bear mask so they probably just made it a blanket flag to disable the mask for any head cosmetic
The reason is probably that they couldn't be assed to work out the meshes for a certain number of head-slot items with the oxygen mask, so they just disabled all of it.
@@thefez-cat In truth it's probably because of how the models are built. The end game gears in the game also have special mask so it might be due to this too.
I never beat the game 100%, but I did play through the campaign and got both good and bad endings. Honestly, I didn't hate it? It was painfully average, but I didn't really get bored playing it. I can't imagine 100%'ing it though.
@@MrQwertysystem If memory serves, you get the alternate ending by jumping into the wormhole after you take Chris, essentially abandoning everyone else. It's also completely missable because you can't replay the mission, so you either have to delete your save and start over, or buy another save slot and start a new file. The ending has your character wandering in the desert and it's implied you become one of the wandering soldiers you can rescue in Phantom Pain.
I remember my brother beat the 'final boss' of LID (back when it was more generous with Death Metals), and only like 4% of players had actually gotten that cheevo. I wonder if it's higher or lower now. He was, and probably still is, among a very small few who actually reached the "Hater" floors above the final boss, that they added as a post-game.
@@Hugsloth lid kinda slaps tho, and it at least still feels like a suda51 game more than survive feels like a kojima game. I got it just for the no more heroes armor and I got like halfway through without spending much money on it bc they give out like 100 death metals for $5
Appropriate to its secret-time-travel story, Metal Gear Survive seems like a game displaced in time. Everything in this video makes it sound like it would've been a PERFECT smaller-scale portable release on like, the DS or PSP. Unfortunately it released in an era where those don't exist anymore, trying to fit it into the market that does exist only hurts them, and of course it was at basically the absolute WORST time to release a lower-budget Metal Gear spinoff.
@@nazrulaqmar4891 The concept of 'handheld gaming' has transformed significantly; thanks to the Steam Deck and Switch you can play full console games on handheld. And you've also got mobile gaming, where a much smaller team can make a smaller spinoff intended for a less involved playtime, but they've honed in on very specific styles of game that are nothing like the console games. So there is a divide, but it's a very different kind of divide. I think Survive seems like specifically the kind of mobile game that you see a major franchise put out on a handheld console, particularly in the DS/PSP era. You know, where they hand it off to the B-team and you get something that plays mostly like the main games but is smaller-scale, has some weird experimental mechanics, is more designed around short bursts of playtime, and probably isn't canon? Metal Gear Survive feels like THAT kind of game.
I mean, the fox engine wouldn't have worked on those platforms at all but I get what you mean, feels like a spin-off companion game back in the day where there was such a thing as weaker consoles
To me, i feel like the micro-management of your health was also a subtle callback to MGS3. Cuz back in that game, if you got wounded or something, you had to go into the menu and fugure out what item you need to mend it.
@@Neopumper666 no duh. If you play stealthy enough, of course you can BUT if you are a casual player who happens to get hit or take major damage, the game has a mechanic where you have to mend certain aliments. Like if you get shot, you may have to use the knife to remove a bullet and then use bandage wrap to help the wound heal. I know it's not 1-to-1 hence why i said "subtle callback" cuz in this game, they go all the way with the micromanagement. Of course, this is just my opinion on how i see it, again...literally at the start of my comment i said "To me" lol But yea, the other person's comment who replied to me makes me think otherwise now but it would have been interesting if they were thinking in regards to MGS3 when they added the survival mechanics regarding your players' health
@@Neopumper666 Also, this isn’t true. There’s two sections where it’s mandatory. (Well, maybe not essential during the Eva part depending how u did) But the opening yes you have to my g
What also breaks my heart is that Suikoden can't even get a collection like Castlevania, Contra or MGS. The first two games can fit just about anywhere now in terms of storage. 3,4,5 are all also relatively small compared to a modern game. Even if you bundle in Tiekris for all of the translated games you could still fit all 6 games on an 8 GB switch cartridge. Konami must have seen how well the Eiyuden Chronicles Kickstarter made so why they don't just release a collection baffles me.
I wholeheartedly agree. It's far and away my favorite game series, so much so that I own all of them including tactics. I want my son to go through and play them, but I don't have the hardware to run them. I can just emulate them now but it's not really the same and can be annoying transferring saves over that way.
I always wanted to give that series a try but not a big fan of turn based rpgs unless they really bring something cool to the table combat wise or at least can turn the battle speed up to get it over w faster 😅
Love u Austin but gotta warn anyone thinking about it that Magic Spoon is a keto-friendly food and is totally not meant to be eaten just like normal cereal and does NOT taste like normal cereal. It was originally made to sell to a small group of people for keto but they didn't make enough profit marketing it that way, so began marketing it to EVERYONE
I like watching people review it who AREN’T sponsored. It’s hilarious how different they’re opinions are when they are not being paid. Check out drew gooden’s review of it…
I've got a Keto diet, and I found the cereal in Target. Try a box in there if you want a low sugar meal. Be aware certain Keto-friendly sugars can have either an aftertaste or be a laxative. Do your research.
He doesn't take the credit, stupid people give him credit for all the work. He credits his team all the time. Hell, he is very open about the ideas that he had that were persuaded out of him by his team even.
"The _Metal Gear_ games are about political fiction and espionage... Where do zombies fit into that?" --Hideo Kojima, the man who put skin-breathing, voluptuous, bikini-wearing mutes, fire whales, fire horses, leather wearing grey aliens and, well, zombies in MGSV?
The drastic downfall of Konami is one of the most heartbreaking things I've gone through when it comes to gaming. They use to publish some of my favorite series. I miss Silent Hill and Metal Gear so much. It is right up there with the drastic drop off in quality with Bioware games. I'm not one of those that screams about gaming being better back in the day as we have a ton of amazing games these days, but I can't help but really miss some of the old days and how if you saw a publisher or dev associated with a game you could almost bet it would be good. Hell now you can't even trust CD Project Red who were the darlings before CP2077. As a pc guy I have to say Sony seems to have the last couple devs you can bet will release a great product and of course we still have from software
Konami always treated their devs like trash, all original silent hills and mgs were made despite of it, there are a bunch of reasons why the "downfall" occurred, but the most important one is the rise of social media cancel culture and gamers inability to understand that there are more then 1 person responsible for the end product.
I swear it isn't a nostalgia thing -- developers really did seem to be more consistent in the late 90s-early 00s. There were so many "do no wrong" studios back then; Square, Konami, SNK, BioWare, Rockstar, the list goes on. Hell, go back in time far enough, and there was an era where a game with the Sonic Team logo on it would be considered gold. You could always bet on those developers' games being top notch, and now it feels like all of them have taken massive falls. I struggle to think of any big studios today that have comparable reputations to the aforementioned ones in their golden age. We have, like, FromSoft and... maybe Valve? Any other consistently good studios I can think of are indie devs.
@@lk8300 Not every game is going to be good but we definitely have a couple masterpieces RD2, God of War, GOT, LoR Shadow of war, and Elden Ring and there is probably others i haven’t played
The updates from this channel are always an automatic "stop everything else and watch" for me. Especially if it's not a series or game I'm familiar with, bc Austin just doing Austin Things is a solid time
I absolutely agree with how you rated Survive. It's very okay, it's mostly inoffensive as a game, but didn't need the Metal Gear title. I myself liked the game though, messing around with friends in the multiplayer was a ton of fun.
I genuinely loved metal gear survive. It encouraged me to do all the combat stuff I never did in MGSV. I still think MGSV is some of the best multi-player I've ever played and survive definitely took me back to those days even if I was playing against mindless AI.
I wish this game wasn't called survive because the game was really fun in it's own ngl repetitive but what zombie survival game isn't left for dead did so good cause of pvp but other games like wwz was so fun then get repetitive
As a guy who plays alot of this game, you've basically described it in the best way possible, not sugarcoatting anything or over beating things. Nicely done 👍
@@_trashPANDA It's not good either. The Fox Engine makes it playable as an MGSV asset flip; but the always-on and limited playability (smallish maps, useless vehicles, and poor end-game loops) means that you're better off playing any other survival game out there preferably Days Gone.
yea things like always-online connectivity and "the game advances while youre not playing it" mechanics are what kept me from even attempting it. im sure there was some cathartic experiences to be had, but im someone who sees the DD mother base cinematic every time i play mgs5 so everybody would be dead in Survive because id touch it maybe a couple times a year at most
If they released the game as a brand new IP instead of associating the "Metal Gear" this would be a pretty popular game with a solid small community behind it. Is a bit fun survival game
You can't really do that when the game still has the base gameplay of MGSV and multiple elements of MG. It be like saying MGR or MGA should be their own IPs too.
@@manusiaorang2842 Metal Gears are still plenty in Survive even if not the focus, we could say the same as in MGRR where Metal Gear Excelsus is clearly no the big bad/focus of the game. And considering the big creature at the end of Survive, the Lord of Dust, is made of advanced nanomachines, which already was seeing as a major threat in MGRR with Armstrong, it just follows the thing of how Metal Gears (the machine) are slowly less and less the focus as times goes on.
Thanks for making this video, I've always been morbidly curious about Survive. Having picked up playing Fallout 76 recently, I am hearing a lot of similarities, which make it sound like there actually are some good aspects to it, since I'm really enjoying 76. The major difference between them being that Bethesda has continued supporting 76 with things like giant free content updates on a regular basis.
FO76 is a game is despised at launch same woth this got back to them in 2022 to get all the achievements, since I started both, and now they are seriously my run to games to play after a long day of work if the bois on MG S I play that if not FO76
Yes. That annoyed me to the point of saying "not interested" anytime his video is recommended. Don't lie and reveal it near the end of thr video. I was fascinated to hear what even unlocked for those. In MGSV You unlock different guns, mods and vehicles, but here I have never played it. It destroys my desire to see more since if he lies about that, what else does he lie about?
@@Mathadar as someone who actually did 100% this game, the endgame wasn’t very interesting and kind of turns into a clash of clans type base manager. Although I still enjoyed the combat system and weapons for all of it.
He probably just meant a 100% save file. Many games have at least some trophies/achievements that aren't actually counted towards 100% by the game itself.
@@KeybladeMasterAndy Wow man that would be such a great guess if he hadn’t specifically said in this very video that he didn’t get 100% because it would take too long.
Mad props to you for actually playing Survive for a good amount of time to make this video, you put in more work then, I dare say, most people do. Also I didn't remember Konami owned all those franchises so now I'm sad again.
I remember when this first came out I saw a few people basically making this exact same video, showcasing the game and saying how it wasn't the worst thing ever made like the internet made it out to be. You can imagine how the internet responded to them. I'd love to see more people come play this game online, it's chaotic and dare I say, kind of fun. Nothing amazing mind you, but nothing extremely bad either.
13:12 that's mainly due to how the special accessories work. It will always get rid of anything on your head so not only would you have the accessory on no matter what and so it won't cause clipping issues. You can see it if you go I to the dust without a special head accessory on and when you go with one on.
Fans:"Konami, you have such great ips, please use them!" Konami:"Here's a pachinko, best I can do." Fans:"but.....but we wanted actual video games." Konami:"You know what? Because I like you kid, I'll throw in a nice cg cutscene that shows you what could've been!" Fans:“......Why are you like this...."
The pachislot slot branch of Konami was never related to the video game branch. as a matter of fact they even are considered as seperate companies in job agencies in Japan. Well, they were, because the pachislot focused branch no longer even exist.
The Fox engine is so good in Metal Gear Solid 5 and makes the whole game feel so modern and polished even in 2022. Konami are really wasting it by only making this trash and football games.
I think Konami could have made MGSV's sequel a game that I'd be playing to this day if they put way less work. Like gimme them 2 MGSV maps (maybe cook up a 3rd one), some loose drawn-on-the-knee story, expand the base and survival mechanics a bit and set me loose with some friends to do side-ops tier missions. I'd be addicted.
Wow, I forgot this game exists. My wife and I are huge Metal Gear fans and Survive was pushed out of my memory by our frequent discussions of how much we love literally every other Metal Gear.
It wasn't zombies that killed this game it was the mandatory internet connection. People tend to get upset when you tell them they can't actually own the thing they paid money for.
@@breadordecide I pay my internet provider a fee to provide me with internet. I pay me games developers to develop my games. these two concept are entirely separate. Imagine buying a game for 80 dollars and then being asked by the developer "did you also pay your internet provider for the MANDATORY INTERNET CONNECTION WE FORCED UPON YOU FOR NO REASON? Oh you didn't, well then I guess you can't own your product than. YOU ARE A FOOL AND CLEARLY DO NOT HAVE A JOB OR ANY CONCEPT OF VALUE. keep your idiotic opinions to yourself.
@@breadordecide There's a difference between being online and a game that is ALWAYS ONLINE. Always-online games rely on a central server to be playable, when that server goes, the game is unplayable. Do NOT defend Online-Only Games for ANY REASON.
Interesting take on this game. Metal Gear may be my favorite franchise, but I only ever heard negative impressions regarding this one. Some of the lore in Survive at least seemed like it was trying to do some interesting stuff.
@@breadordecide “Solid” is being very generous since even without having Metal Gear Solid attached to it, at its best it’s just a generic and mediocre survival game in an era oversaturated with them.
@@belldrop7365 And whats wrong with that? I heard diablo immortal is great as long as you stop at the ending. Enjoy what you want. Who cares what other people think? And don’t kink shame.
honestly, the idea that the reason the wandering soldiers are messed up is due to nanomachines messing with their heads, is more satisfying to me than simply trauma since they have near super speed.
Technically, he meant it more like "how will they write it in?". He wondered how the writers will put a spin on it/make it plausible, rather than question the theme/idea itself. "Where do zombies fit in that?" is what people kept because it felt more like a heroic slam dunk at Konami this way. Problem is, Japanese is inaccurate if translated to English on the fly, and this kind of thing happens frequently enough. Considering all the strange stuff in the previous games (pretty much every boss from the main games), integrating loony concepts into a serious setting is something he clearly loves. I just don't see him questionning the idea, he seems to really like the brainstorm process of adapting these things in because he did that for pretty much every MGS so far. It'd make sense he'd be curious to see how it gets done without his input this time around.
The Skulls and their puppets made sense in terms of the story and lore in Phantom Pain. The Wanderers were just convenient cannon fodder just for the sake of saying Survive was a survival game.
If you've never read Kojima's interviews, he's kinda fucking weird. He's kinda like Anno imo, their art speaks louder but their interviews just end up them contradicting themselves every time they talk
You know what would have been a better idea than making this game? Co-op Metal Gear Solid 5. Like it was all there and the game even had multiplayer but rather than give us a mission based co-op mode where we get to use stealth tactics as a team...we got this. Just...what...we....asked for?
Heyyy, I'm one of those aforementioned crazy folks of the 100-ish daily players that still log in to Survive today. And I gotta say, you absolutely did a great job in being fair covering Survive, especially compared to what everyone said about it in 2018-19. To be perfectly clear, I have over 800 hours in the game, 4 characters, 2 of them with all 4 sublcasses maxed out (and the other 2 are almost there), and I even made my own review of the game on my main account's channel. I really like this game, and I am one of its craziest defenders today. I did note a couple of inconsistencies you didn't get 100% right but it was nothing big (one I remember is that you don't always have to reload a save on dying; the game lets you port back to base and leave a box with all your gathered materials in it that you can retrieve later). I did want to say that I feel like the multiplayer was the point of this game, and once you really dig into Extreme matches with a group of 4 you start to see a side of the game that doesn't come out at any other time, and really wouldn't work if you didn't work as hard as you have to in order to get to that point. In other words, the endgame of Survive is super hard, but it's very learnable for almost anyone, and once you get a team of 4 who have that learning already done, you'll be really impressed with what you can do just by having experience. You don't have to be a god gamer to be great at Survive, you just have to be smart enough and willing to put in the work. So in light of that I wish you hadn't said players shouldn't do multiplayer as soon as possible, because that's what I tell everyone. As soon as you hit level 5, hop into the Discord and there will inevitably be someone who's willing to carry you or let you tag along and help you get a lot of materials, which makes the rest of the single player story so much less of a chore. On that note, there's a big Survive Discord server with hundreds of people in it on every platform that I see match up every day, and the in-game matchmaking Survive provides absolutely blows, so you really should get on Discord to group up here like you mentioned. Thanks for being so fair to Survive, I enjoyed watching your video! I play on PC too, so if you ever want to come back to the game for some masochistic reason, hit me up on Steam. I'm Rossaroni on there. I solo hard salvages all the time, I'll show you what those hammers are really for. [Edit to add] Oh I also wanted to say that despite my 800+ hours, I also have not gotten the 100% on Survive. It's a silly thing.
Thanks for this comment, I enjoyed reading it! Hard to imagine 800 hours and no 100 percent but that's the RNG for sure. I think as part of a community it makes sense to hop into multiplayer asap! But I was even more sadistic and just asked some friends with close to no experience to tag along so none of us had anything LOL
@@austineruption Oh to be clear the trophies I lack could be gotten any time but I just don't care because it's the eat all food trophy and the gear I lack is from lower level salvages that I just don't do often!
If you bought the game, but the game is online only, then that means that you don't own the game at all, you just rented it temporarily and access can be denied at any time.
1:20 - In my experience most of the bad games eventually do skew back towards "Mostly Positive", even the real garbage. Once the post-launch reviews are in and it says "Mostly Negative", the only people who are going to buy it are people determined to like it, who'll insist on leaving a "I don't get why everyone hates this game?!?" review. And of course, people buying it to leave useless, unfunny joke reviews. Then as the recent reviews start to creep up, people will start to get it on sale because they think the game got an update that makes it good or something, and figure "Sure, now that the game's $1.50 and not $60 it's not so bad". Meanwhile anyone who knows why the game's so bad doesn't buy it and thus doesn't knock the score back down with negative reviews.
While I personally loved this game and how hard it was to actually survive, and to play around in the FOX engine a bit more, it really frustrated me when reviews for the game came out on TH-cam and Dunkey, a very popular, (not good) reviewer did a video on the game. He basically played the first 20 minutes and then released a video about it as if that was anywhere near enough to actually review the game. The game has some cool stuff in it, I personally loved being able to use a Helicopter blade as a sword while dressing up like a random fake MGS military squad.
I got this game for like 5 bucks in a bargain bin. Glad I didn't play it at full price at launch but I found it Worth it for that much least. A better executed zombie game in MGSVs engine would have been amazing though
This game is actually decent. Everyone jumped on the bandwagon of "it's trash" but didn't actually give it a chance. I've played every Metal Gear game, and appreciate this as a separate spinoff survival entity.
yeah, it would've probably been a decent game if it was an independent one, but the fact that it's canon to the mgs series just ruins everything, even Hideo said where the hell did they come up with zombies on mgs. But I don't like it because first, it's zombies and we see them everywhere, second, it's canon to mgs (According to them, for me this will never be canon) so it ruins every single thing on the game
@teebles tbh, I've no idea, it's a comment I made 9 months ago that I probably forgot about after 2 weeks, and I even forgot about this game entirely and have stopped playing MGS months ago. So, I have no idea
OMG! I have been waiting, and I'm ready. Edit: Loved the video, this game is so weird in the way that it is done. Maybe if they had called this LITERALLY anything besides Metal Gear (or waited a few more years), it may of found moderate success.
@@rgm4646 I think just long enough to be removed from firing kojima, they canned one of the greatest game directors, and then 1 year later announced a zombie survival game. This game never had a chance.
I feel like Survive suffered from the same situation that Resident Evil 6 suffered from. A mentality that a game series should just copy and paste the series constantly because that’s what people are entitled to. However I think games that change up their format and experiment are cool. I think Pokémon and Call of Duty has caused people’s mentality to develop a comfort zone where everything will be the same and nothing will change.
Honestly, I was willing to give survive a chance, not enough of a chance to get immediately, thank goodness. After learning about the constant struggle for food and water, the resource shenanigans and the general crafting madness, I had cooled off to it and left it alone.
>title of the game literally has 'Survive' as part of it >whines about survival mechanics that were already present in MGS3/it's a survival stealth-focused game, what did you expect lmfao.
Thank you for the genuine review. The game was instantly hated on release, but the criticism was mostly just (deserved) Konami bashing. Definitely wasn't a great game, but there were parts that were enjoyable.
36:30 That has to be one of the WORST suggestions and purchase you could do. Say you buy a game and after a while you put it out to play other games, then after a while you came back to this game and realize you can't play anymore because their servers have been shut down so you say okay and try the single player campaign... only to realize you CANNOT play because you need to login to the game's server to play what should supposedly come IN the disc in the first place!
The most fun I've had with this game was play testing it and making Jill Valentine. After that playing the game made me realize. I rather be water boarded.
I remember when this was announced I actually thought it looked interesting. Like, if it wasn't made by Konami or even just under the MGS title after the shit they pulled, I would have bought it cause I love survival horror like this. And from watching your video, yeah I would have loved it. But then again it IS Konami, and fuck em.
I legitimately like mg survive idk. Guilty pleasure maybe? Fox engine is is always good fun and the game is challenging managing your meters. Stories weird and lack luster but i wasn’t expecting a good one for this game. It’s also one of the better survival games out there imo. Idk give it a shot if your interested.
I too enjoyed my time with it. Played it from beginning to end. I wasn't too fond of the online mode. Though by the time i got into it the player bases was pretty dead. Overall a fun game. I get why people shit on it. But if they look past all the bullshit and give it a try past chapter 3 I think they'd enjoy it as well.
@@IPLayedVR42Long yep same here except I got it day one and even then the online wasn’t booming haha. Still a good well made game. If you leave your Konami bias at the door and just take it for what it is.
Worst thing is that this sounds like a game I would absolutely enjoy if it was under a different name and had proper support, love and care put into it
I’d went into the demo with my friend after putting aside all preconceptions regarding the Kojima split. It was actually a pretty decent time with some thought put into the melee system (spear stab headshots baby). Kind of felt it didn’t deserve most of the mechanical criticisms that the first wave of journos heaped on it. Wasn’t enough to convince me to get the full game though. My friend went on to complete it with another gang of friends and had a pleasant enough experience from what he tells me. It was indeed one of the games of all time.
I played throught it and had a decent time in it, there was even some moments that I thought were kinda neat, its a 7/10 game for me, like its serviceable and with a friend it probably would be more fun to play.
I played through the beta AND the game itself, and it was fun. I think it was one of those games where it would've really hit its own sort of stride with a sequel that its almost definitely never going to get, though. And it REALLY shouldn't have been called Metal Gear. If it were just called 'Survive', or 'Dite', or something, and Konami used it to let their developers gain experience using the FOX engine, it would've gone over way better. As is, though, I enjoyed it. I didn't have any friends who were willing to give it a go, so I was mostly going through it solo and without much of the end-game to experience, but the solo experience was solid if definitely not what I wanted out of a MGS game, and the handful of co-op matches I did were honestly kind of a blast, I'm not gonna lie. Also, I still think the reveal that your home base is built from the wreckage of a Diamond Dogs Mother Base from a timeline where the Dust managed to return and infect everyone is a genuinely really well-done and shocking bit, complete with the realization that the logo also has that fucked up crystal protrusion coming out of the dog's head.
I have spend more than 100hrs and it's a fun game. The team behind came out with some pretty nice weapons you literally booby trap your defense point with oil floors and zombies getting impailed or air canons don't doing damage but blows away zombies in to others traps.
@@JoCoHo Do you want it bad, or do you just kind of want it? Either answer is perfectly okay. You know, people freeze their asses off climbing Everest or K2. For most people that's hell, but for some they love it. It's all about temperament. The second it feels like a job, something you have to do not what you want to do? Burn it to the ground and walk away. I'm not even one of those Dark Souls loving masochists. Those games don't suit me at all. MG Survive did. I wouldn't do it again. But thinking back on it, the fun I had, the friends I played with, I'm glad I did. That's what that platinum means to me, and that's all it is.
@@dars5229I mean, that's pretty much just a major cope? Comparing climbing Mount Everest to playing a shitty game for hundreds of hours seems like a major cope
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FINALLY, Metal Gear Survive is done! That was... one of the longest videos on the channel as well as some of the most effort. Let's just say... I didn't sleep last night.
Also to date this video, i'm gonna take a nap and then watch ric flair's last match with bated breath.
QUESTION OF THE DAY!
After watching this, do you think you'll try Metal Gear Survive?
best part about this video is that I can finally erase all the footage and then install forza horizon hot wheels and truly live my life.
@@austineruption but the real question is, how did you survive?
good news austin, now you get to play Left Alive
I want that cereal but I gotta have milk with it and that's too many carbs T_T
Put chapter breaks for your ads
There's an Easter egg where if Snake falls asleep in his jail cell in MGS3, he has a nightmare where he has to 100% Metal Gear Survive
Nice joke.
That or seeing Vulcan Raven naked
That’ll be in the remake in 100+ years
Its true wtf???
@@2k13Ghost Careful! You'll poke your eye out with that thing.
It’s infuriating that they have probably the best engine for third person shooters ever made, they had metal gear online which they just let die, and they’re sitting on the tech doing fuck all with it. No ambition, no weird ideas, not even shitty games. Just nothing.
From what I remember reading at the time, the Fox engine suffers from most of the same problems as Square Enix's Luminous engine. Sure, it's super powerful and genuinely amazing, but you need to be able to program in both Japanese and English, it's super complicated, and Unreal does 90% of the same stuff much easier. Sometimes it's hard to justify a boutique engine.
@@Nohraz Do you know that not everyone knows everything about game development ?... Apparently you don't.
that's kind of why everyone hates Konami now. They just rake in their money from mobile games and call it a day and don't let anyone else touch their IP's despite many many others being able to do it better.
I will stand by RE6 being the best third person shooter engine. That Mercenary mode is the best.
@@casedistorted Don't forget pachinko machines. They love that shit in Japan.
Rather than zombies, I think the game would have been more well-received had the premise been something along the lines of a soldier trapped behind enemy lines having to escape/survive against overwhelming odds, with a focus on stealth and survival mechanics with the player having to manage their hunger, thirst and sleep while also avoiding enemy patrols. I'd have certainly given it shot in that scenario.
yea but that would take effort or a dev team that even wanted to make it in the first place. ( you can tell how much the devs for survive didn't want to make this game xD )
+Sobari
Wait, how would base building work there?
@@vanconojl
Wouldn't it take less effort, like removing features and not even making a new model for enemies?
@@Bezaliel13 not at all since a good map requires a lot of planning and testing for a balance and fun/challenging experience it would take way more effort than a shitty zombie tower defense to program all the enemy patrol behaviors+ pathfinding for the AI and effort is something that konami hates.
@@vanconojl
Why would they have not had it still be a tower defense game in that "behind enemy lines" scenario? Opposing gunfire?
Honestly, bit unfair to say they would definitely have made a new map just because of human enemies.
@@Bezaliel13 they would if any amount of *EFFORT* was used for this theoretical game effort SURVIVE devs didn't really have and i don't blame then i would also hate to work on such a game (survive) for konami *especially* after all the abuse konami did to all the people employed at Kojima's team (also the other employees, man fuck konami...)
I think the point of Kojima’s quote is that when you strip all of the spicy and weird elements in Metal Gear Games, it’s root story and overarching messages are always about politics and espionage. There’s a lot of weird things in Metal Gear but they’re never the center story at hand, unlike how Survive is a zombie tower defense game in story and gameplay all the way through.
Eh, Austin missed that the place is the deep future, and the Lord of Dust is a grey goo event. Which is actually the biggest danger of nanomachines. So they actually did try there.
@@PosthumanHeresy
Those don't really have anything to do with politics or espionage though lol
Even MGR:R, the one where you play as Robocop if he were a ninja slashing up watermelons and other ridiculous characters with a lightning sword, even that has a lot of blatant commentary about authoritarianism
and Anarcho Libertarianism, fascism, online culture, meme culture, war profiteering, the corruption of the legal systems
@@PosthumanHeresy The Grey Goo is actually Solid Snake’s built in AI nano-machines gone haywire
The gameplay Kojima’s team put together for MGS V is by far the best third person shooter mechanics I’ve ever played. I’m surprised some of that translated to survive as an asset flip.
Nah, Vanquish is way better
@@AydarBMSTU “By far the best third person shooter *I’ve* ever played”
my dude, it’s his opinion
@@Lhamb And his opinion sucks. Your point?
@@asdergold1 Forbid anyone on the internet have an opinion you disagree with, pop off I guess
Almost like MGS isn’t a gameplay focused series.
Alot of the time when I see a video title like "I did X so you don't have to" I still feel like I want to do the thing they did. But this is the first one that comes to mind, where I go "Yeah I don't want to do this"
Same. I even played through Balan before watching his video on that.
Started the video, looked the game up on Amazon, saw it's like 10€, put it in my basket and removed it again once I finished the video.
Me too but I paused it and am leaving the vid cuz I took him at his word that he actually 100% beat it and was stoked to see how awful that'd be but I'm at least glad he let me know he lied and clickbaited before he got into it.
Funny, did this way before and it didn't feel like that.
Yeah this is a game I never attend to play let alone 100%
To clarify when Kojima said he wanted to finish with it every step along the way... He meant since Mgs 1 on the Playstation. You can end the series at any point of the MGS time line and you'd be correct to say it's the directors idea of a canonical ending.
Kojima never wanted MG to end, he wanted to share it to his staff. Basically he just wanted to personally stop working on it while the staff was continuing it.
I find it hard to imagine the franchise ending before 4 though. I could do without V when it comes to the story alone. But its gameplay is so good so I find it hard to imagine a world without V for that reason. Anyway, there's plenty of other routes they could have taken when it comes to the story of V, and I would never have missed the story of the game we got. It's just a bridging gaps kind of story.
@LordEmmerich Right. And it became clear to him that he had to do it himself, because he wasn't happy with what the team was doing on their own. They even had a program that was about teaching others to work like Kojima. Despite that, the others couldn't come up with something on his level. If I recall correctly, that was before MGS3.
@@DanSmeed no, fans would just send death threats anytime someone other than Kojima started working on it. It wasn't about "oh I have to do it myself". Kojima-stans would just threatene their way into getting what they want. He didn't even want to helm MGS4.
@@Elric_ wouldn't be surprised if he hates MGS4 lol
Probably not V though. That game wasn't even finished so it's hard to imagine that was where Kojima wanted to end it
The one thing that really stood out to me when the game was coming out was despite the fact Konomi did hand out review copies, no one could even play it or review it until after release day, not due to any review embargos, but because the game was online only and the servers weren't up until like a day after release.
This is the thing that makes the game just not fun. Worse yet is that your base still loses resources and your NPC recruits can still get ill even when you don't logon to play. So you're never safe and the game basically forces you to stay married to it at all times.
@@billywashere6965ah, the idiotic attempts to make Games as a Service the industry standard...😊
"Where do zombies fit into Metal Gear?"
Literally the Skulls unit and Puppet soldiers.
The irony is that Hideo has publicly stated he wanted to do a Zombie-esk game a few times. I'm sure he was just throwing shade because he was salty he was fired.
Dont forget the nano zombies in mgs4
@@dragonpee Probably the real reason, I wouldn't blame him if it was true.
@@dragonpee not every game Hideo wanted to make were MGS, he specifically said he was fed up with constantly making games for that singular IP when he wanted to make new games.
He didn't say zombie games bad he said zombie MGS is bad.
@@dragonpeehe was never fired, he just left. Man was too Chad to let himself be fired by some losers
"Where do zombies fit into that?" I dunno, you tell me, Hideo. Considering there were zombies in MGS5, along with a flaming unicorn, a pyromancer, a reanimated demonic Volgin, a whale made out of fire, and bootleg Strogg soldiers.
I.... still don’t understand where the hell that whale came from. I was so confused and still am.
@@demoliman probably a reference to Moby Dick, MGSV was announced as a random game from a developer called Moby Dick games, that prologue is full of Moby Dick references like "Ishmael" and "Ahab"
And Moby Dick is a whale
@@shayp.cormac2380 Pequod is also a Moby Dick reference, its the ships name!
@@demoliman, Venom is hallucinating.
there were Zombie like things in MGS4 also
I like a good survival game, but god damn, Konami really shot themselves in the foot of releasing a zombie survival game immediately after splitting with Kojima. It doesn't matter how playable the game is, Zombie saturation was at peak when MG survive was released, booting your star dev to chase a trend that your IP had no prior connection to was dumb. I don't know why anyone would pay for a game that's on life support, it's amazing Konami kept it up for as long as it is.
I mean he killed 80 million on V and a quarter of that money didn't even go for V. So even if they wanted to keep him, Hideo just shot himself in the foot to try and get fired with shit like that
@@digimonrockers6732 That would be too much, but if the full price for development for that game was that it is pretty normal for AAA Game development cost. Most in the industry consider 50-60 Million the base margin for the difference between AA and AAA, and especially for an entry garanteed to sell well like the fifth Metal Gear and most likey last one regardless of Kojima x Konami disputes and an Open World sandbox one at that. If the 80 Million was the total, even if overbudgeting the fault is in Konami for not caring enough to ask for an openworld AAA game from Kojima that costed less, they should be grateful for having a franchise and devs who can make great and acclaimed products that will be well received and turn in more profit and new loyal consumers in the future. Sounds more like the new CEO didn’t really like nor care for videogames and threw any part of the company around it instantly as soon as he took over, while trying to minimize the cost of that.
Kojima repeatedly went over budget for MGSV and for his entire tenure as Vice President of Konami all the games released under him (Castlevania: lords of Shadow, Z.O.E HD collection etc) all underperformed.
He had his personal lawyers remove all traces of an interview from the internet in which a translator for MGS1 talked about how Kojima can't write a good story to save his life and he'd be laughed out of any Hollywood writing room because he was salty about it...
The only game that sold well was MGSV but even then it wasn't a huge sales success in comparison to other major releases at the time.
He was on his way out no matter what tbh.
it isn't because of zombies being in the game, nobody was tired of zombies, it's because of how Konami treated Kojima and the fan loyalty to Kojima, nobody who ever hates on this game, say they do because of zombies being a tired concept
@@PlaidSuitPinstripeWorld
You have to remember how abusive Konami was. Of course one of their employees would say something bad about someone they think of as underneath them, that was like, part of when their employees were coming out to talk about just how bad it was. Verbal abuse and literally being constantly monitored like they were prisoners was (and might still be) a normal day at Konami. It doesn't surprise me they weren't able to get the best games out while having Konami higher ups constantly doing everything they could to make sure they wouldn't be able to just focus on developing games. Would you try in a job that treats you like actual garbage, or would you just float through until they decide to finally fire you?
"It's so wiggly...Why" I was not expecting this and wasn't even looking at the screen until the very second he showed the hat wiggling and I actually died laughing
I played the online mode of this with a friend.
Fun fact: If you don't play any story mode at all, you have a shitton of locked features in the online modes, so I was just kinda running around with the starting gear and slapping zombies.
The best part of the game, by far, is the fact that the Fox Engine lets you play baseball with thrown grenades.
And tennis
There's one important detail that you missed. The "storage area" is the future. They're _deep_ in the future of the Metal Gear Solid universe, which fell to a grey goo event from nanomachines. That's... actually the biggest problem with nanomachines.
The thing about the people with telekinesis, the cyborgs, the vampire and the ghost in Metal Gear Solid is that they were being used as weapons or assets by their goverments or the leader of their faction, just like Big Boss or Solid Snake were used, and it's a reference to the Cold War era when military was looking for people with special abilities to work with (or for) them. In Survive you are in an alternate dimension filled with zombies because everyone likes TWD at the moment.
I geniunely want to know who asked for Survive, who in Konami thought a zombie survival game was definitely what Metal Gear needed after Kojima left
In the spirit of metal gear acid or portable ops, it had that fun MGS weirdness to it. Not uncommon for the series tbh.
Apparently this was based on an idea Kojima pitched to Platinum about a game where gray fox fought cyber zombies.
Kojima did lol. It was planned during MGS5 development.
@@serch3ster no they didnt, the guy lied to you.
@@AmelpsXett It might be a real speculation, tho, and the game where Gray Fox fighting nanomachine zombies was suppose to be a sequel for MGRR.
I'm honestly surprised Konami hadn't pulled the plug on the servers by now. I mean there are people playing it but it's not the kind of numbers you'd expect a publisher to be OK with continuing to run, but then Babylon's Fall hasn't shut down...yet.
I think it’s still bringing them money actually. The game has a dedicated fan base and the charges are really small for something that makes the game a lot more fun. It’s definitely happening soon though.
Well I’d say there’s no way the pachinko n gacha games are bringing in more money then what a good game for one of their classic locked away franchises would but evidently I’m wrong and there must be a very lucrative market for it if they keep going
@@revalution1965 I mean i can't say this 100% as there may be things i'm missing but i was sure the reason Konami went fully into Pachinko was because they were making SO much more money with relatively small resource costs compared to the money required to make a game. The returns on them is just so much higher...well it was before, you know, the 'event' that shut everything down.
Metal Gear Survive still brings in money through microtransactions. The fact that Metal Gear Survive is making more money than some new games (like Babylon's Fall) signifies that Metal Gear Survive is a cult success. Obviously not a huge success, but Metal Gear Survive's cult following has allowed it to earn a profit each month.
@@johnpenguinthe3rd13 I can vouch for this yeah. It strikes a balance in the survival game genre that not many others have, so it has got a loyal fan base!
I just want to bring up why the oxygen mask doesn't appear at 13:12 is because you have the bandana head item equipped.
For whatever reason, all head cosmetics in the extra slot just disable the mask model completely.
To be fair the head cosmetics include a full pyramid head and a bear mask so they probably just made it a blanket flag to disable the mask for any head cosmetic
The reason is probably that they couldn't be assed to work out the meshes for a certain number of head-slot items with the oxygen mask, so they just disabled all of it.
@@thefez-cat In truth it's probably because of how the models are built. The end game gears in the game also have special mask so it might be due to this too.
You mentioning Dark Cloud and using Dark Cloud music in your video makes it an immediate 10/10.
The reason they’re wary of digging into that gold mine is because they keep Fing up every sequel and reboot they attempt.
I never beat the game 100%, but I did play through the campaign and got both good and bad endings. Honestly, I didn't hate it? It was painfully average, but I didn't really get bored playing it. I can't imagine 100%'ing it though.
Hey its Trav Guy, my favorite X and Metroid TH-camr. Didnt know you also watch Austin Eruption
That's the problem, you shouldn't be saying this about MGS..
I could can fun playing anything that uses MGSV's engine, so I have to agree with you
Wait... The game had multiple endings? I finished the campaign and I never knew it had multiple endings... What even determined which ending you get?
@@MrQwertysystem If memory serves, you get the alternate ending by jumping into the wormhole after you take Chris, essentially abandoning everyone else. It's also completely missable because you can't replay the mission, so you either have to delete your save and start over, or buy another save slot and start a new file. The ending has your character wandering in the desert and it's implied you become one of the wandering soldiers you can rescue in Phantom Pain.
Getting big Let it Die vibes from this game, even the way they run events and keep it maintenance mode. Super bosses, micros all that jazz.
as someone who reached the top of the tower of barbs, spot on, except Lid is worse since it wants to charge you if you die
I remember my brother beat the 'final boss' of LID (back when it was more generous with Death Metals), and only like 4% of players had actually gotten that cheevo. I wonder if it's higher or lower now.
He was, and probably still is, among a very small few who actually reached the "Hater" floors above the final boss, that they added as a post-game.
@@Hugsloth lid kinda slaps tho, and it at least still feels like a suda51 game more than survive feels like a kojima game. I got it just for the no more heroes armor and I got like halfway through without spending much money on it bc they give out like 100 death metals for $5
Let it Die is a great comparison, for both its pros and it’s flaws!
@@yourfavoritelawnguy2722 Or, just dont waste death metals to revive your character. Just use another to find you previous character and kill it.
Appropriate to its secret-time-travel story, Metal Gear Survive seems like a game displaced in time. Everything in this video makes it sound like it would've been a PERFECT smaller-scale portable release on like, the DS or PSP. Unfortunately it released in an era where those don't exist anymore, trying to fit it into the market that does exist only hurts them, and of course it was at basically the absolute WORST time to release a lower-budget Metal Gear spinoff.
Hey isn't there like Steam Deck ? Does that can be considered as handheld ? Or does handheld truly dead ? Man I miss the Vita
@@nazrulaqmar4891 The concept of 'handheld gaming' has transformed significantly; thanks to the Steam Deck and Switch you can play full console games on handheld. And you've also got mobile gaming, where a much smaller team can make a smaller spinoff intended for a less involved playtime, but they've honed in on very specific styles of game that are nothing like the console games. So there is a divide, but it's a very different kind of divide.
I think Survive seems like specifically the kind of mobile game that you see a major franchise put out on a handheld console, particularly in the DS/PSP era. You know, where they hand it off to the B-team and you get something that plays mostly like the main games but is smaller-scale, has some weird experimental mechanics, is more designed around short bursts of playtime, and probably isn't canon? Metal Gear Survive feels like THAT kind of game.
Yeah . But I still want to play PS4 or PS5 in my hand. But no they wasted the Vita smh
I mean, the fox engine wouldn't have worked on those platforms at all but I get what you mean, feels like a spin-off companion game back in the day where there was such a thing as weaker consoles
Him: I played this game so you don't have to.
Also him: Look how much fun I'm having.
It always makes me so happy to hear Dark Cloud mentioned by anyone especially when the music is used
Hands down one of the best bgm ever in videogame history god I want a dark cloud 3 so badly so very badly
To me, i feel like the micro-management of your health was also a subtle callback to MGS3. Cuz back in that game, if you got wounded or something, you had to go into the menu and fugure out what item you need to mend it.
It's definitely not that. Konami just wanted to follow a "trend" but they were very late to the party as japanese companies always are
What are you talking about? You can complete mgs3 without healing at all
@@Neopumper666 no duh. If you play stealthy enough, of course you can BUT if you are a casual player who happens to get hit or take major damage, the game has a mechanic where you have to mend certain aliments. Like if you get shot, you may have to use the knife to remove a bullet and then use bandage wrap to help the wound heal.
I know it's not 1-to-1 hence why i said "subtle callback" cuz in this game, they go all the way with the micromanagement.
Of course, this is just my opinion on how i see it, again...literally at the start of my comment i said "To me" lol
But yea, the other person's comment who replied to me makes me think otherwise now but it would have been interesting if they were thinking in regards to MGS3 when they added the survival mechanics regarding your players' health
@@folver91 I can understand that lol. I guess i gave Konami waaaaay too much credit there 😂
@@Neopumper666 Also, this isn’t true. There’s two sections where it’s mandatory. (Well, maybe not essential during the Eva part depending how u did)
But the opening yes you have to my g
What also breaks my heart is that Suikoden can't even get a collection like Castlevania, Contra or MGS. The first two games can fit just about anywhere now in terms of storage. 3,4,5 are all also relatively small compared to a modern game. Even if you bundle in Tiekris for all of the translated games you could still fit all 6 games on an 8 GB switch cartridge. Konami must have seen how well the Eiyuden Chronicles Kickstarter made so why they don't just release a collection baffles me.
Pachinkos and gacha, that's why
I wholeheartedly agree. It's far and away my favorite game series, so much so that I own all of them including tactics. I want my son to go through and play them, but I don't have the hardware to run them. I can just emulate them now but it's not really the same and can be annoying transferring saves over that way.
I always wanted to give that series a try but not a big fan of turn based rpgs unless they really bring something cool to the table combat wise or at least can turn the battle speed up to get it over w faster 😅
Such a shame Suikoden is trapped on old gen consoles, all 7 games kick ass
@@rstrack89able based, I luckily own them all physically, I wish they weren’t so expensive so they were more accessible to a wider audience
Love u Austin but gotta warn anyone thinking about it that Magic Spoon is a keto-friendly food and is totally not meant to be eaten just like normal cereal and does NOT taste like normal cereal. It was originally made to sell to a small group of people for keto but they didn't make enough profit marketing it that way, so began marketing it to EVERYONE
I like watching people review it who AREN’T sponsored. It’s hilarious how different they’re opinions are when they are not being paid. Check out drew gooden’s review of it…
Got to love it when people take a sponsorship deal without researching the company that they chose to accept money from. Those who do are scum.
Agreed, it’s hella expensive, the boxes are small and cheap quality and the taste/texture isn’t great. Wouldn’t recommend lol.
I've got a Keto diet, and I found the cereal in Target. Try a box in there if you want a low sugar meal. Be aware certain Keto-friendly sugars can have either an aftertaste or be a laxative. Do your research.
@@brickmcmuffin4585 At that point, it is probably tastier, healthier, and cheaper to just make eggs.
24:18 Old Metal Gear Sahelanthropus........9 years before being created
Well the time travel plot exist
Kojima gets a lot of praise but hes also the guy who takes 100 percent credit fro the games that many talented people make
Kojima had nothing to do with this.
He doesn't take the credit, stupid people give him credit for all the work. He credits his team all the time. Hell, he is very open about the ideas that he had that were persuaded out of him by his team even.
"The _Metal Gear_ games are about political fiction and espionage... Where do zombies fit into that?"
--Hideo Kojima, the man who put skin-breathing, voluptuous, bikini-wearing mutes, fire whales, fire horses, leather wearing grey aliens and, well, zombies in MGSV?
I would prefer if you didn't talk about Codetalker that way
MG had so many narrative themes and that's what made it so great to talk about
And cyborg ninja, and some weird looking octopus suit, and.. Ah yeah a self produce human battery
well yeah but they were all cool
Being weird and wacky >>>>> zombies
The drastic downfall of Konami is one of the most heartbreaking things I've gone through when it comes to gaming. They use to publish some of my favorite series. I miss Silent Hill and Metal Gear so much. It is right up there with the drastic drop off in quality with Bioware games. I'm not one of those that screams about gaming being better back in the day as we have a ton of amazing games these days, but I can't help but really miss some of the old days and how if you saw a publisher or dev associated with a game you could almost bet it would be good. Hell now you can't even trust CD Project Red who were the darlings before CP2077. As a pc guy I have to say Sony seems to have the last couple devs you can bet will release a great product and of course we still have from software
Konami always treated their devs like trash, all original silent hills and mgs were made despite of it, there are a bunch of reasons why the "downfall" occurred, but the most important one is the rise of social media cancel culture and gamers inability to understand that there are more then 1 person responsible for the end product.
So you're one of those guys that is okay with average games today
Not heartbreaking at all. those guys make hundreds of millions with our money. They knew what they doing with this franchise. Just to fuck up hideo.
I swear it isn't a nostalgia thing -- developers really did seem to be more consistent in the late 90s-early 00s. There were so many "do no wrong" studios back then; Square, Konami, SNK, BioWare, Rockstar, the list goes on. Hell, go back in time far enough, and there was an era where a game with the Sonic Team logo on it would be considered gold. You could always bet on those developers' games being top notch, and now it feels like all of them have taken massive falls.
I struggle to think of any big studios today that have comparable reputations to the aforementioned ones in their golden age. We have, like, FromSoft and... maybe Valve? Any other consistently good studios I can think of are indie devs.
@@lk8300 Not every game is going to be good but we definitely have a couple masterpieces RD2, God of War, GOT, LoR Shadow of war, and Elden Ring and there is probably others i haven’t played
The updates from this channel are always an automatic "stop everything else and watch" for me. Especially if it's not a series or game I'm familiar with, bc Austin just doing Austin Things is a solid time
I absolutely agree with how you rated Survive. It's very okay, it's mostly inoffensive as a game, but didn't need the Metal Gear title.
I myself liked the game though, messing around with friends in the multiplayer was a ton of fun.
I genuinely loved metal gear survive. It encouraged me to do all the combat stuff I never did in MGSV. I still think MGSV is some of the best multi-player I've ever played and survive definitely took me back to those days even if I was playing against mindless AI.
I wish this game wasn't called survive because the game was really fun in it's own ngl repetitive but what zombie survival game isn't left for dead did so good cause of pvp but other games like wwz was so fun then get repetitive
Excuse me my dear sir, Revolver Ocelot spins his guns for the perfect amount of time, every single time. "Mrowww!!!"
The fact that this has a bigger player base than Babylon's Fall is insanity.
It may be a bad metal gear game, but at least it's a nice game on its own
@@condrador4518 is it though? I don't think it is. The AI is very broken...
@@vyor8837 same with skyrim and yet we enjoy it
I said nice, not great, best, fantastic or whatnot
@@condrador4518 Ya, but skyrim's AI won't freak out and attack a random pole you put down over attacking you the player.
What's Babylon's Fall? I've literally never heard of it and I follow games.
9:10 - Review starts.
Thank you
A fascinating video on MGS's own Federation Force. Thanks for the vid
As a guy who plays alot of this game, you've basically described it in the best way possible, not sugarcoatting anything or over beating things. Nicely done 👍
must be hard on you having to play this game. im sorry
@@offcialaa2progamr Did... did you watch the video? He said it wasn't bad. Just not really a Metal Gear game.
@@_trashPANDA It's not good either. The Fox Engine makes it playable as an MGSV asset flip; but the always-on and limited playability (smallish maps, useless vehicles, and poor end-game loops) means that you're better off playing any other survival game out there preferably Days Gone.
Why would u play this
@@billywashere6965 days gone is trash imo
yea things like always-online connectivity and "the game advances while youre not playing it" mechanics are what kept me from even attempting it. im sure there was some cathartic experiences to be had, but im someone who sees the DD mother base cinematic every time i play mgs5 so everybody would be dead in Survive because id touch it maybe a couple times a year at most
Austin: "Whole world wants you to die and unfortunately there is no quicksave"
Death Stranding: How is that an issue?
If they released the game as a brand new IP instead of associating the "Metal Gear" this would be a pretty popular game with a solid small community behind it. Is a bit fun survival game
Yeah, the name Metal Gear carries certain expectations that it simply can't meet. But it's by no means a bad game.
heh heh you said solid
You can't really do that when the game still has the base gameplay of MGSV and multiple elements of MG.
It be like saying MGR or MGA should be their own IPs too.
@@lordemmerich but MGR and MGA is about metal gear. Yes, that big war machines
With nukey
@@manusiaorang2842 Metal Gears are still plenty in Survive even if not the focus, we could say the same as in MGRR where Metal Gear Excelsus is clearly no the big bad/focus of the game.
And considering the big creature at the end of Survive, the Lord of Dust, is made of advanced nanomachines, which already was seeing as a major threat in MGRR with Armstrong, it just follows the thing of how Metal Gears (the machine) are slowly less and less the focus as times goes on.
Thanks for making this video, I've always been morbidly curious about Survive. Having picked up playing Fallout 76 recently, I am hearing a lot of similarities, which make it sound like there actually are some good aspects to it, since I'm really enjoying 76. The major difference between them being that Bethesda has continued supporting 76 with things like giant free content updates on a regular basis.
FO76 is a game is despised at launch same woth this got back to them in 2022 to get all the achievements, since I started both, and now they are seriously my run to games to play after a long day of work if the bois on MG S I play that if not FO76
Even went and got 100% achievements on both versions of FO76 on Xbox and Windows 10
Funnily enough MGS V did have zombies of a sort; some of the skulls could make temporary zombies to annoy you during a few boss fights.
And on mgs4 too with the bugged nanomachines soldiers
Thank you, Austin, for continuing to suffer through games so we don't have to. Super excited for the SEGA Marvel stuff.
“I beat it 100%.”
“Hey all so I didn’t beat it 100% because it would take too long.”
Uh?
It's all about the thumbnail baby! But yeah 200 hours of a game like survive seems hazardous to your health.
Yes. That annoyed me to the point of saying "not interested" anytime his video is recommended. Don't lie and reveal it near the end of thr video. I was fascinated to hear what even unlocked for those. In MGSV You unlock different guns, mods and vehicles, but here I have never played it. It destroys my desire to see more since if he lies about that, what else does he lie about?
@@Mathadar as someone who actually did 100% this game, the endgame wasn’t very interesting and kind of turns into a clash of clans type base manager. Although I still enjoyed the combat system and weapons for all of it.
He probably just meant a 100% save file. Many games have at least some trophies/achievements that aren't actually counted towards 100% by the game itself.
@@KeybladeMasterAndy Wow man that would be such a great guess if he hadn’t specifically said in this very video that he didn’t get 100% because it would take too long.
Mad props to you for actually playing Survive for a good amount of time to make this video, you put in more work then, I dare say, most people do. Also I didn't remember Konami owned all those franchises so now I'm sad again.
That Dunkey review of this game said you only put fences and poke enemies to death.
Like yeah… nope.
I remember when this first came out I saw a few people basically making this exact same video, showcasing the game and saying how it wasn't the worst thing ever made like the internet made it out to be. You can imagine how the internet responded to them. I'd love to see more people come play this game online, it's chaotic and dare I say, kind of fun. Nothing amazing mind you, but nothing extremely bad either.
If it's free or super cheap, maybe.
Dark cloud is a series that doesnt get enough love. Props
13:12 that's mainly due to how the special accessories work. It will always get rid of anything on your head so not only would you have the accessory on no matter what and so it won't cause clipping issues. You can see it if you go I to the dust without a special head accessory on and when you go with one on.
Fans:"Konami, you have such great ips, please use them!"
Konami:"Here's a pachinko, best I can do."
Fans:"but.....but we wanted actual video games."
Konami:"You know what? Because I like you kid, I'll throw in a nice cg cutscene that shows you what could've been!"
Fans:“......Why are you like this...."
The pachislot slot branch of Konami was never related to the video game branch. as a matter of fact they even are considered as seperate companies in job agencies in Japan.
Well, they were, because the pachislot focused branch no longer even exist.
The Fox engine is so good in Metal Gear Solid 5 and makes the whole game feel so modern and polished even in 2022. Konami are really wasting it by only making this trash and football games.
MGS5 nailed the gameplay feel so elegantly.
I think Konami could have made MGSV's sequel a game that I'd be playing to this day if they put way less work. Like gimme them 2 MGSV maps (maybe cook up a 3rd one), some loose drawn-on-the-knee story, expand the base and survival mechanics a bit and set me loose with some friends to do side-ops tier missions. I'd be addicted.
Also mother base tower defence in they like tower defence so much
Wow, I forgot this game exists. My wife and I are huge Metal Gear fans and Survive was pushed out of my memory by our frequent discussions of how much we love literally every other Metal Gear.
It wasn't zombies that killed this game it was the mandatory internet connection. People tend to get upset when you tell them they can't actually own the thing they paid money for.
And yet we’re all online all the time.
Such a stupid thing to get upset over.
@@breadordecide I pay my internet provider a fee to provide me with internet. I pay me games developers to develop my games. these two concept are entirely separate. Imagine buying a game for 80 dollars and then being asked by the developer "did you also pay your internet provider for the MANDATORY INTERNET CONNECTION WE FORCED UPON YOU FOR NO REASON? Oh you didn't, well then I guess you can't own your product than. YOU ARE A FOOL AND CLEARLY DO NOT HAVE A JOB OR ANY CONCEPT OF VALUE. keep your idiotic opinions to yourself.
@@breadordecide There's a difference between being online and a game that is ALWAYS ONLINE. Always-online games rely on a central server to be playable, when that server goes, the game is unplayable. Do NOT defend Online-Only Games for ANY REASON.
Interesting take on this game. Metal Gear may be my favorite franchise, but I only ever heard negative impressions regarding this one. Some of the lore in Survive at least seemed like it was trying to do some interesting stuff.
The negative people barely played it. They misrepresented the game. Its a solid game.
TH-camrs had an agenda. Bunch liars.
@@breadordecide “Solid” is being very generous since even without having Metal Gear Solid attached to it, at its best it’s just a generic and mediocre survival game in an era oversaturated with them.
@@amirgarcia547 I had a blast with it.
@@breadordecide A lot of people are having a "blast" with diablo immortal, Fallout 76 and scat too.
@@belldrop7365 And whats wrong with that? I heard diablo immortal is great as long as you stop at the ending. Enjoy what you want. Who cares what other people think?
And don’t kink shame.
For everyone wandering the video technically start at 6:00 minutes and the plot at 9:15
honestly, the idea that the reason the wandering soldiers are messed up is due to nanomachines messing with their heads, is more satisfying to me than simply trauma since they have near super speed.
MG Survive walked so Palworld could run
That zombie's line from Kojima always drove me nuts because HE PUT ZOMBIES IN 5!
Technically, he meant it more like "how will they write it in?". He wondered how the writers will put a spin on it/make it plausible, rather than question the theme/idea itself. "Where do zombies fit in that?" is what people kept because it felt more like a heroic slam dunk at Konami this way. Problem is, Japanese is inaccurate if translated to English on the fly, and this kind of thing happens frequently enough.
Considering all the strange stuff in the previous games (pretty much every boss from the main games), integrating loony concepts into a serious setting is something he clearly loves. I just don't see him questionning the idea, he seems to really like the brainstorm process of adapting these things in because he did that for pretty much every MGS so far. It'd make sense he'd be curious to see how it gets done without his input this time around.
The Skulls and their puppets made sense in terms of the story and lore in Phantom Pain. The Wanderers were just convenient cannon fodder just for the sake of saying Survive was a survival game.
If you've never read Kojima's interviews, he's kinda fucking weird. He's kinda like Anno imo, their art speaks louder but their interviews just end up them contradicting themselves every time they talk
You know what would have been a better idea than making this game? Co-op Metal Gear Solid 5. Like it was all there and the game even had multiplayer but rather than give us a mission based co-op mode where we get to use stealth tactics as a team...we got this. Just...what...we....asked for?
Yeah, really needed some Sniper Elite Co-op in MGS5.
Heyyy, I'm one of those aforementioned crazy folks of the 100-ish daily players that still log in to Survive today. And I gotta say, you absolutely did a great job in being fair covering Survive, especially compared to what everyone said about it in 2018-19. To be perfectly clear, I have over 800 hours in the game, 4 characters, 2 of them with all 4 sublcasses maxed out (and the other 2 are almost there), and I even made my own review of the game on my main account's channel. I really like this game, and I am one of its craziest defenders today. I did note a couple of inconsistencies you didn't get 100% right but it was nothing big (one I remember is that you don't always have to reload a save on dying; the game lets you port back to base and leave a box with all your gathered materials in it that you can retrieve later). I did want to say that I feel like the multiplayer was the point of this game, and once you really dig into Extreme matches with a group of 4 you start to see a side of the game that doesn't come out at any other time, and really wouldn't work if you didn't work as hard as you have to in order to get to that point. In other words, the endgame of Survive is super hard, but it's very learnable for almost anyone, and once you get a team of 4 who have that learning already done, you'll be really impressed with what you can do just by having experience. You don't have to be a god gamer to be great at Survive, you just have to be smart enough and willing to put in the work. So in light of that I wish you hadn't said players shouldn't do multiplayer as soon as possible, because that's what I tell everyone. As soon as you hit level 5, hop into the Discord and there will inevitably be someone who's willing to carry you or let you tag along and help you get a lot of materials, which makes the rest of the single player story so much less of a chore. On that note, there's a big Survive Discord server with hundreds of people in it on every platform that I see match up every day, and the in-game matchmaking Survive provides absolutely blows, so you really should get on Discord to group up here like you mentioned. Thanks for being so fair to Survive, I enjoyed watching your video! I play on PC too, so if you ever want to come back to the game for some masochistic reason, hit me up on Steam. I'm Rossaroni on there. I solo hard salvages all the time, I'll show you what those hammers are really for.
[Edit to add] Oh I also wanted to say that despite my 800+ hours, I also have not gotten the 100% on Survive. It's a silly thing.
Thanks for this comment, I enjoyed reading it! Hard to imagine 800 hours and no 100 percent but that's the RNG for sure.
I think as part of a community it makes sense to hop into multiplayer asap! But I was even more sadistic and just asked some friends with close to no experience to tag along so none of us had anything LOL
@@austineruption Oh to be clear the trophies I lack could be gotten any time but I just don't care because it's the eat all food trophy and the gear I lack is from lower level salvages that I just don't do often!
You hit me with the nostalgia when you mentioned dark cloud base building then started playing dark cloud 2 music. That games music is so good.
If you bought the game, but the game is online only, then that means that you don't own the game at all, you just rented it temporarily and access can be denied at any time.
1:20 - In my experience most of the bad games eventually do skew back towards "Mostly Positive", even the real garbage. Once the post-launch reviews are in and it says "Mostly Negative", the only people who are going to buy it are people determined to like it, who'll insist on leaving a "I don't get why everyone hates this game?!?" review. And of course, people buying it to leave useless, unfunny joke reviews. Then as the recent reviews start to creep up, people will start to get it on sale because they think the game got an update that makes it good or something, and figure "Sure, now that the game's $1.50 and not $60 it's not so bad". Meanwhile anyone who knows why the game's so bad doesn't buy it and thus doesn't knock the score back down with negative reviews.
this video did not need to be this long
I've been waiting so long for someone to do this
Honestly, would have given it a shot if it wasnt "online required"
Video starts at 3:30
While I personally loved this game and how hard it was to actually survive, and to play around in the FOX engine a bit more, it really frustrated me when reviews for the game came out on TH-cam and Dunkey, a very popular, (not good) reviewer did a video on the game. He basically played the first 20 minutes and then released a video about it as if that was anywhere near enough to actually review the game. The game has some cool stuff in it, I personally loved being able to use a Helicopter blade as a sword while dressing up like a random fake MGS military squad.
I got this game for like 5 bucks in a bargain bin. Glad I didn't play it at full price at launch but I found it Worth it for that much least. A better executed zombie game in MGSVs engine would have been amazing though
this game has fans that actually defend it
The gameplay is not bad u should try the post game
IF YOU WANT A GOOD BREAKFAST JUST COOK A DAMN EGG
This game is actually decent. Everyone jumped on the bandwagon of "it's trash" but didn't actually give it a chance. I've played every Metal Gear game, and appreciate this as a separate spinoff survival entity.
yeah, it would've probably been a decent game if it was an independent one, but the fact that it's canon to the mgs series just ruins everything, even Hideo said where the hell did they come up with zombies on mgs. But I don't like it because first, it's zombies and we see them everywhere, second, it's canon to mgs (According to them, for me this will never be canon) so it ruins every single thing on the game
The only people who think this pile of wank is "good" haven't played a good tower defence game, like Sanctum.
@teebles tbh, I've no idea, it's a comment I made 9 months ago that I probably forgot about after 2 weeks, and I even forgot about this game entirely and have stopped playing MGS months ago. So, I have no idea
@teebles yeah ngl I agree with you lol
@@DR3ADER1 You know what, screw both of them, Bloons TD and PvZ are the good tower defense games.
Watching this because the new remake for PS5 came out today
OMG! I have been waiting, and I'm ready.
Edit: Loved the video, this game is so weird in the way that it is done. Maybe if they had called this LITERALLY anything besides Metal Gear (or waited a few more years), it may of found moderate success.
Yeah maybe just 'Gear' they would have had to wait 10 years for people to forget about MGS 2,3,4 & 5
@@rgm4646 I think just long enough to be removed from firing kojima, they canned one of the greatest game directors, and then 1 year later announced a zombie survival game. This game never had a chance.
thx for making it and not absolutely calling it trash
I feel like Survive suffered from the same situation that Resident Evil 6 suffered from. A mentality that a game series should just copy and paste the series constantly because that’s what people are entitled to. However I think games that change up their format and experiment are cool. I think Pokémon and Call of Duty has caused people’s mentality to develop a comfort zone where everything will be the same and nothing will change.
Honestly, I was willing to give survive a chance, not enough of a chance to get immediately, thank goodness. After learning about the constant struggle for food and water, the resource shenanigans and the general crafting madness, I had cooled off to it and left it alone.
wait until he finds out about survival games
@@Fearless665 Wtf is this crap?!
>title of the game literally has 'Survive' as part of it
>whines about survival mechanics that were already present in MGS3/it's a survival stealth-focused game, what did you expect lmfao.
@@thespiritofhoxhawell4413 I expected that eating an entire bear would last you more than 8 in game hours.
THIS controversial game series is damn good!
I did really love the MGSV gameplay systems and definitely wanted more. But yeah this felt like a strange turn
Thank you for the genuine review. The game was instantly hated on release, but the criticism was mostly just (deserved) Konami bashing. Definitely wasn't a great game, but there were parts that were enjoyable.
36:30 That has to be one of the WORST suggestions and purchase you could do. Say you buy a game and after a while you put it out to play other games, then after a while you came back to this game and realize you can't play anymore because their servers have been shut down so you say okay and try the single player campaign... only to realize you CANNOT play because you need to login to the game's server to play what should supposedly come IN the disc in the first place!
If they made a battle royale game with the Fox engine/MGSV gameplay I would play it forever.
This comment was made a year ago. Recently I started playing mgs 5 again and have to agree. It can be an amazing engine when optimized well
The most fun I've had with this game was play testing it and making Jill Valentine. After that playing the game made me realize. I rather be water boarded.
I remember when this was announced I actually thought it looked interesting. Like, if it wasn't made by Konami or even just under the MGS title after the shit they pulled, I would have bought it cause I love survival horror like this. And from watching your video, yeah I would have loved it.
But then again it IS Konami, and fuck em.
Love to hear the legend of legaia music at the 20 minute mark my dude! Great video regardless.
This game ironically raised the dead zombie trend back to life.
Then it died again right after but that's besides the point.
I legitimately like mg survive idk. Guilty pleasure maybe? Fox engine is is always good fun and the game is challenging managing your meters. Stories weird and lack luster but i wasn’t expecting a good one for this game. It’s also one of the better survival games out there imo. Idk give it a shot if your interested.
I too enjoyed my time with it. Played it from beginning to end. I wasn't too fond of the online mode. Though by the time i got into it the player bases was pretty dead. Overall a fun game. I get why people shit on it. But if they look past all the bullshit and give it a try past chapter 3 I think they'd enjoy it as well.
@@IPLayedVR42Long yep same here except I got it day one and even then the online wasn’t booming haha. Still a good well made game. If you leave your Konami bias at the door and just take it for what it is.
Worst thing is that this sounds like a game I would absolutely enjoy if it was under a different name and had proper support, love and care put into it
I’d went into the demo with my friend after putting aside all preconceptions regarding the Kojima split. It was actually a pretty decent time with some thought put into the melee system (spear stab headshots baby). Kind of felt it didn’t deserve most of the mechanical criticisms that the first wave of journos heaped on it.
Wasn’t enough to convince me to get the full game though. My friend went on to complete it with another gang of friends and had a pleasant enough experience from what he tells me. It was indeed one of the games of all time.
I played throught it and had a decent time in it, there was even some moments that I thought were kinda neat, its a 7/10 game for me, like its serviceable and with a friend it probably would be more fun to play.
I played through the beta AND the game itself, and it was fun.
I think it was one of those games where it would've really hit its own sort of stride with a sequel that its almost definitely never going to get, though. And it REALLY shouldn't have been called Metal Gear. If it were just called 'Survive', or 'Dite', or something, and Konami used it to let their developers gain experience using the FOX engine, it would've gone over way better.
As is, though, I enjoyed it. I didn't have any friends who were willing to give it a go, so I was mostly going through it solo and without much of the end-game to experience, but the solo experience was solid if definitely not what I wanted out of a MGS game, and the handful of co-op matches I did were honestly kind of a blast, I'm not gonna lie.
Also, I still think the reveal that your home base is built from the wreckage of a Diamond Dogs Mother Base from a timeline where the Dust managed to return and infect everyone is a genuinely really well-done and shocking bit, complete with the realization that the logo also has that fucked up crystal protrusion coming out of the dog's head.
I have spend more than 100hrs and it's a fun game. The team behind came out with some pretty nice weapons you literally booby trap your defense point with oil floors and zombies getting impailed or air canons don't doing damage but blows away zombies in to others traps.
Boss:im so proud for you militer
Snake:yup me too peace.
We survive:thx i try to survive it. Then i will become the new boss.
This isn't a game I would ever want to put myself through. But you have my respect. I hope they remember you.
32:57 'The cons outweigh the negatives'
This got to be the best MGSVS summary ever.
I had alot of fun with this game
One of the hardest platinums I've ever gotten. But one of the most rewarding.
I don't know man, it was a massive pain in the ass for me and the last month was just grinding wormhole digs repeatedly for Kuban energy
@@JoCoHo Do you want it bad, or do you just kind of want it? Either answer is perfectly okay. You know, people freeze their asses off climbing Everest or K2. For most people that's hell, but for some they love it. It's all about temperament. The second it feels like a job, something you have to do not what you want to do? Burn it to the ground and walk away. I'm not even one of those Dark Souls loving masochists. Those games don't suit me at all. MG Survive did. I wouldn't do it again. But thinking back on it, the fun I had, the friends I played with, I'm glad I did. That's what that platinum means to me, and that's all it is.
@@dars5229I mean, that's pretty much just a major cope? Comparing climbing Mount Everest to playing a shitty game for hundreds of hours seems like a major cope
bro used some dark cloud 2 music. absolute legend. im a simple man. i hear a dark cloud reference, i like. i subbed a while ago cuz i like the flow of your videos, so hearing the dark cloud 2 song randomly was a nice bonus. good taste
This game is the low point of La-li-lu-le-lo(w)