🤖 Install Mech Arena for FREE here on Mobile and PC ✅ clik.cc/R8f9w and get a special starter pack to help kickstart your game ⭐ FINALLY GOTHAM KNIGHTS HAS ARRIVED. There was a small scheduling mishap so this was originally supposed to be the first video of the year, but it is what it is. When I originally tossed this into the ring as a potential poll option, I wasn't expecting it to win, let alone take 40 percent of the vote. But well, I'm glad y'all picked it. Is Gotham Knights a trash fire like everyone says or is there something a little more? Also there's a comic. That's cool. Let me know other deep dives and "100 percent" videos y'all want me to check out. There's a big one, Avengers that's gonna be getting it's final patch soon so... that seems like a good idea?? Bad Idea?? IDK
Best part of Red Hood is how all of his ability descriptions try to emphasize how non-lethal his stuff is despite the gameplay being the total opposite. You get gems like "Red Hood plants a concussion grenade on grappled enemies, which then explodes into smaller cluster concussion grenades."
@@garibaldibritann1240 Storywise no, Red Hood is reformed and doesn't kill anymore. Gameplay wise, Red Hood turns Gotham Knights into a 3rd person shooter where you try to headshot enemies as much as possible for massive crit damage bonuses.
The one cool thing about this game is the patrolling on different nights. The Arkham games were basically the four worst nights of batman's life, but going on regular patrols with long running crimes to solve is a great concept for a superhero game
Yeah that’s what keeps me returning to this game quite frequently. The city really just feels like a cool place to hang out and patrol around. The lighting and, color palette and the mood of the city is so engrossing.
Add that "one cool thing" to a bunch of its other cool things, like the dialogue/characterisation of the characters and the game was definitely a great if flawed bat family experience
As mid as the game turnt out, I still think the idea of utilizing the Bat family is really cool, and I don't want that to go to waste because Gotham Knights fumbled the baton pass.
Oh bleep. Persona's format doesn't fit everything (couldn't really imagine SpongeBob or Spider-Man quite working in that format), but imagine the Bat Kids, post Death of Batman, working as an eight person Persona style turn based RPG unit out of the gate? That could have been HYPE. Dick Tim Jason Barbara Cass Steph Damien And, sure, why not have Harper Row, for balance?
I'm hoping and coping for a Ninja Turtles style Gotham Knights game, but it being good since TMNT is kinda of struggling as a franchise right now with the exception of the comics.
I'm surprised this game didn't leave off with a Damian reveal. Batman's family has to raise his secret son. Probably would have got people interested in a sequel.
If only they had more people on the team who actually had passion for what they were making and they didn't get railroaded into making this quasi live-service schlock. This is a great idea and would have been really fun to see
Hahahahahaha just started playing yesterday for the first time. Picked Batgirl as my first and got her to lvl 10 before I realized you could change characters AND level them up with gear from the other characters that you found. Batgirl does have all the cake haha. Haven't tried red hood or Nightwing yet. Robin does seem fun though. Enjoying his element use and not really liking his first bow staff special. Other then that it's a pretty fun game.
@@jamaaldagreatest2748 oh most definitely without question haha. However its fun for what it is. it's more then likely the fact that I've not played an open world game in quite some time.
It definitely feels like it was supposed to be a live service game, but was changed at the last minute. Perhaps they changed that in response the reception of Marvel's Avengers.
@@alonsomorales3249 You and I already know that they won't do that. The easiest excuse with the least accountability is the usually the one taken. If they're dumb enough they might take it in reverse, aka "we should've stuck to our guns and stayed focus on live service."
Yeah same. And he called it the "Rocksteady trilogy" and called Arkham Origins a "spin-off". He probably never played them and barely knows about the Arkham games.
@@yummynubs3646 both gamespot and IGN's reviewers spent 30 hours on the game before writing their reviews. Is this one of those games like Days Gone where it gets "good" after 60 hours?
Is it weird this video literally made me go buy it on Steam? Like...it's a video about how mid this game is and all I can think is "Shooting things as Jason looks fun".
@@LadySatya I think as an RPG nerd all the numbers don't put me off like I think it did a lot of the more standard action fans expecting another Arkham City.
That's pretty much the reason I'm gonna buy it, I've wanted a free roam Red Hood game for the longest time. Also wish we got a standalone Arkham Tim Drake game. I usually don't care for Robin ever but he really shines in the Arkham games
I like the concept and the ideas like patrols on different nights to break up the story and how it’s presented. If there was one thing that really killed the story pacing of Arkham Knight it was how after every major story beat you were reminded there were other subplots. At certain points it’s like “Alfred who the fuck cares, Barbara just killed herself!”
Saw this game on sale for $28 and figured it was time to give it a try. Even as a DC fan, I stayed away from release day since everyone said the game was glitchy and sucked. I've been playing for about 10hrs and I love this game. As a fan I love the story. As a fan of the Arkham games I'm glad it looks similar but the game play is different. I love the different fighting styles of the characters. Love patrols in Gotham. Love the detective work. It takes itself less seriously than the Arkham games. It's fun. Reminds me more of Spiderman PS4.
(I know this comment is four months old so sorry for dragging you back) I 100% agree, I also played after the game seemed to be optimised a bit so the lag and glitching wasn't too bad or often. I loved the story and ability to play with friend in Gotham. Honestly I kinda wish we had more optional bosses/stories with more of the rogues gallery.
I’m way late to this, just randomly decided to check it out on game pass. I’m not experienced with the Arkham games which probably helps in this case because I’ve been thoroughly enjoying this game. Only like 8 hours in but it’s just generally fairly fun, serviceable stealth and combat and a decent story so far. Waiting to play games and going in with no expectations and not paying $70 pays off haha
@@swingingfordearlifeI played it on release and I had a great time. I think I logged about 60 hours onto the game before I was done, and a huge part of that was just doing every possible crime I could every night because I found in fun. That being said, you should absolutely try the Arkham games after this one.
the credits remind me of Pokémon omega ruby and alpha sapphire where in the credits it would have what Pokémon you used to beat a gym leaders last Pokémon there. so as it went your team would evolve and you'd have new pokemon, it was a cool sequence.
This game is a good comparison to suicide squad when it comes to showing a company bowing down to live service complaints, then you have suicide squad that didn’t and still went through with the live service model
Now I just want a Batman Beyond video game. It'd be so cool to have cyberpunk, batman, detective, super tech shenanigans. They'd totally ruin Terry by trying overly hard to connect it awkwardly to the more popular continuities, but it could potentially be cool enough as to be worth it lol
That's for being honest about how you feel about the game. So many youtubers act like games have to define the art of gaming, or the games are trash fire. It's okay for games to be okay.
Well. That also depends on your opinion on detective games and grind-fests. I personally prefer them to the Arkham style, even if this is not up to par I absolutely have enjoyed it more because that's my preference
@@humanistwriting5477 agreed, couldn’t finish Arkham knights because of the god awful bat tank missions, my friend and I had a great time running through this game together. If you weren’t expecting an Arkham clone it’s a fine game
It's funny you say that because I'm currently playing this right now and I'm enjoying it. The story is interesting enough to keep me entertained although I don't care much for the power level aspect of it because I feel like it wasn't needed. So it is making to go back and play through finally all three Arkham games and their entirety. I feel like right now I'm more enjoying that it's an open world beat him up game and I've not played one of them in quite a long time.
My best friend and I were so hyped for this game. We were pumped for a Arkham styled CO-OP experience and we had played really bad games before, so we felt we were adequately prepared. We preordered it on PC, but neither of us could have foreseen just how bad the performance issues were. I would get ~20FPS outside in the open world, and at some points it even dipped into the single digits. Once, it even dropped below 1FPS because one random enemy was slowing down the game BIG TIME during a fight. But inside buildings and underground, I would get a perfect 60FPS. The whole open world was woefully unoptimized to the point where I couldn't ride the bat-cycle without outpacing the world loading around me. I have a decent rig that is able to run Arkham Knight on ultra at a stable 60FPS, but it barely met the minimum requirements for Gotham Knights. We were disappointed by the massive technical issues that held back the game. The game on its own is average with potential, probably getting a passing grade of a C, but the technical issues really kept drove our score further and further down. When they introduced that patch in early November, the game got very unstable. We learned that if either of us crashed, we BOTH had to close and relaunch the game, otherwise the game would still think we were in a lobby together. When we beat the game, it crashed on the credits for both of us. We uninstalled it almost immediately. We didn't even wait for the 4 player CO-OP mode to come out, so I'm glad you covered that in the video. But you know that WB didn't have any faith in the game when it didn't get a season pass; hell, leaked screenshots from the Suicide Squad game shows that it already has a season pass. The way I see it is that WB had two options when it came to Gotham Knights: either give the devs more time to polish the game or to push the game out and move the majority of the team elsewhere. We already know what option they picked, so let's hope Suicide Squad is good enough to justify them sacrificing Gotham Knights for it.
Yeah, don’t put your hope too high for Suicide Squad: no actual gameplay in three years and at three months at the release, a leak that actually put together an awful plot and a battle pass, and this game has more red flags than hype. If you really have to rely on the sole name of the studio and his previous success then something is pretty fishy.
Many theorized it was to be a live service but with how bad that avengers live service game went, they quickly tried to turn it back into a single-player game hence all the resources and crafting, gear score things. Personally I've taken to sit back and watch triple A's shoot themselves in the foot over experiencing games just being alpha tested by the public, like many have started doing.
That is the issue at hand, they don't have more time. Atleast, not in the companies eyes the vast majority of the time. They say "I want Gotham Knights done in 3? years" and when that three years is up they can probably squeeze a delay or two but much more than that and they're bleeding money that could be spent on the salaries of workers on a better game. Which even hurts it more so with reviews, you release a 60ish hour game and the reviewer who NEEDS the clicks and views right away only can spend a bit of time playing it before they uninstall it and move on to the next game on their to do list that is likely coming out when the deadline for them to be relevant or in the case of big review sites, actual deadline for the review. There is also a massive echo chamber and more people like negative reviews than positive ones, because its more cathartic to see a thrashing.
The characters having a shared level seems very convenient and seems like it cuts down any grinding a ton considering you don't have to level up four different characters
I still plan on getting this one and you kinda solidified what I felt the game would be. A decent game which is fun to a certain kind of person. Especially if you don't go into it trying to force it into an Arkham mold. A decent 7. I agree. 7's have a place in our libraries. Don't always need a A5 wagyu. Sometimes you can enjoy a 15 piece from McDonald's
Honestly you’re spot on. It’s a solid 6 or 7 that reallllly got hurt by the inevitable comparisons to the Arkham series. Nothing I plan on redownloading but can’t hate
Punching bags of the week and bandwagoning have become a massive problem. The unchecked negativity completely disgusts me and has caused me to stop looking at literally anything about any game until I'm done with it.
Man Gotham Knights' looks like something I'd really enjoy. You've sold me on at least giving this game a shot at some point if I ever get a nice PC or a PS5
Got a cheap key for it and ended up having quite fun with it to be honest. Wouldn't play through it again or use NG+, but for one Playthrough it was totally fine. I agree with Austin saying that there should be a sequel if they do it right...the game definitely had potential.
yea i think if they work on the technical side, give you what you got at the end of the game at the start of the next one such as traversal, scrap the rpg aspects (power level stresses me out if its not maxed gear lmfao) and tweak the combat a bit(please just ADD PARRIES), it has some serious potential
Someone who gives a great review instead of 20 minutes of bashing. Definitely subscribed and adding the game to my wishlist to pick up down the road. Thank you for your work!
I get the feeling this was going to be a live service game, but the higher-ups put the kibosh on that when Avengers and some of the other live services started losing money
I'm not joking when I say it is so refreshing to have a review treat games fairly. I know I commented something to this affect in a past video, but it's so rare. I really do like your videos man. Good work!
You do great work Austin! Appreciate you taking one for us viewers for some of these games. Your "so you don't have to" series is one of my favs on TH-cam.
I enjoyed the game, while I can admit it’s not revolutionary it was fun. I enjoyed playing as Batgirl and Robin, and it felt kind of nice playing in an open world like Gotham.
I wish publishers would help keep games flowing smoothly in the right direction. The co-op and loot mechanics bog the game down and serve to get developers away from the core experience
Yeah the loot was basically wasted time and co-op needed to not be server based especially if said servers were janky too. They could have had costumes with colors and little tweeks. Then have elements be something you can swap in and out that already scales to the player.
I absolutely LOVE The Runaway!!! He's such a perfect concept for a new DC Western Hero! He fits perfectly into the classic guys like Vigilante and Jonah Hex! It's a perfect fusion of that era with modern sensibilities for a cool superhero concept!
Dude, that final charming scene that you were talking about was shown as a trailer at one point I think. I remember that was one of the first things I ever saw of Gotham knights and I thought the whole game was going to be like that, which I was not excited about. Having it be bookended as the last thing is way way better than being the first thing you saw lol
Oh hey, 60 hours to 100% a title that mostly everyone thought was mid? That _does_ sound like paradise compared to spending 122 hours to 100% Cyberpunk 2077, a game that got (and still gets) a ton of flak, but me? I love it! We didn't get wallrunning or whatever features CPR might've promised before release, but my first playthrough that started on launch week and ended on January 19, 2021 was actually relatively painless, about 80 hours and I was more fortunate than most, got few bugs (though the ones that I did encounter were pretty nasty, including one softlock, thank Christ the game saves every five seconds) and enjoyed the story and gunplay a lot, not very often you see actual dismemberment systems in First-Person Shooters nowadays, picking up where Soldier of Fortune left, and it looks absurdly beautiful and colourful, a far cry from the piss filter-ridden days of the seventh gen of consoles. I decided to start a replay december of last year and I'm sorry-not-sorry, but I still love it, and in fact, it's when I decided to go for 100%. But what does all that have to do with Gotham Knights? Simple, if you enjoy the game, don't give a shit about what other people say, it really is just that.
I actually like this game. And I'm considering playing it another 4 times as I would rather play this game again then go near the god-awful trainwreck that was Suicide Squad: Kill Rocksteady Studios.
I watched this review and the avengers one. Great reviews but who is in charge of the background music on these videos it is incredible. The review got a thumbs up but using iceman’s theme from X-MEN COTA in the background? That got me to subscribe !
I’m basically a year late but yea. Dude simply didn’t want to criticize the game too much I think. 7.5 is a pretty solid/good game. Not “mediocre” like he said.
People only rate games from 5 to 10. Bc 7 is in the middle it means it's average. 5 or 6 would be equivalent to "below average" even though it doesn't make any sense lol
If they removed the leveling this game could have been much more fun. The best about spiderman and arkham is that you feel powerful by the end but getting taken down by lvl 50 thugs is really humbling and quite the drag
I didn't mind this game at all, but I'm not surprised it turned up on so many disappointed games lists. I'll be honest there were multiple times I wanted to stop playing and go on to something else (Whenever I did I couldn't think of anything else to play so I kept playing.) As I kept at it past the opening hours however I couldn't put it down and ended up enjoying myself. The problems I have with Gotham Knights I just wish it wasn't so grindy and enemies weren't so bullet spongey even when you're level capped it was annoying.
One cutscene in the game has both players. When you're escaping from the mines and they're blowing up and youre being chased by the owl dudes. Your character opens up the door at the end and looks back before going through it. If you're with a friend, when your character looks back, your buddy runs through the door before you follow after him. Only cutscene in the entire game at least that I know of.
Yeah game burn out has happened to me too. I started Transformers:Devastation in idk, 2018 or 2019?? Dropped it after maybe 2 hours. But then finally came back and played it a lot over Winter 2023 and fell in love with it.
I remember when this game came out I had saved up alot of money but still figured to wait and maybe buy it months from now. Then i saw a friend playing it online and asked how it was. He said it was actually really good. I bought it and maybe 2 hours later knew I had made a mistake
Tim Drake may have the Adam Sandler look, but I still prefer it whatever they did to Jason Todd. Dude looks like every football player I knew back in High School. Dude looks like regularly listens to Alex Jones and Joe Rogan. Dude looks like he sells drugs despite having a trust fund. Dude looks like the human version of Knuckles in Sonic Boom.
I genuinely liked Side Story bits of characters, Nightwing struggling with leadership, Robin dependable on Batman's guidance trying to overcome it, Redhood's traumatic past and trying to be team member. Except Batgirl who can't remember her father's face? And questioning her photographic memory?😅
I'm decidedly not a comic or superhero fan, and I can't really get into open world sandbox type games, but something about watching this game and knowing you can do the whole thing co-op has me more than mildly interested. I really want to grab a friend, rent or buy this for cheap, and just go at it for a weekend. It's too bad the overlap of people I know who are knowledgeable enough about Batman to explain things to me and people who care for these kinds of games is practically nonexistent.
I know it's completely irrelevant and I'm being super pedantic pointing it out, but every time you said Arkham *Knights* hurt me just a little bit ;) I love these "I beat _ 100% so you don't have to" videos btw. Whenever you do one on a game I'm somewhat unsure about getting, it always helps me come to a decision.
My ideal Gotham Knights would have taken place in the Arkhamverse with Arkham Knight style gameplay (not a fan of the new combat and RPG mechanics). The Belfry team would be Barbara (still as Oracle), Dick, Tim and Cassandra Cain as Batgirl. Jason would be his own thing, still murdering criminals and hiding from his ex-team, maybe they would fight at certain point and then redeem himself to become lame non-lethal Red Hood at the end. Keep motorcycles as the main mean of transport, but make them faster and cooler, so you don't miss gliding as much.
I really just want the ability to use traversal abilities indoors. Big warehouses and stuff full of enemies are annoying when i wanna glide over their heads and have plenty of room but it wont let me
Holy shit I haven't gotten a notification on your account in a hot minute. Great video and really happy you reviewed this. I played it with a friend as our first game we played together in years and despite the issues it was a really fun and great time that ended in a nightmare fight where my friend who isn't as much of a gamer ended up saving the final hard mode fight flailing around like a madman and chipping her down. It's a great game and glad to played it. The sole thing I really wish is if it just had more. More polish, more content, more story. I know Suicide Squad is being done by another team, but I cant help but thank Gotham Knights for being that gateway game to get into gaming more with a friend I haven't had much time to really do anything with. It's special to me and sucks to see so many people dumpster it as hard as it is. It's what gets exhausting about the gaming community and the internet as a whole where it just becomes a never ending navigation of trying to avoid kicking a seemingly never ending amount of hornets nests over any and everything. Happy belated birthday and the last time I think I saw a vid you had blue hair haha. Another cool thing Gotham Knights had unexpectedly brought to me is your channel and I'm sure a decent backlog.
Now I really want you to play Marvel's Avengers. It would be very interesting to get your take on that game. Especially after seeing what you said about this one. I know the game is ending but it will still be playable so it would be interesting to see what you say.
Great video Austin!! I wanted to like the game but enduring the whole bunch of bugs at launch I was experiencing was too much, for the first time in my life I refunded a steam game... By the way after playing Hi-Fi Rush I just want now a Harley Quinn game in that graphical style and embracing sillyness!!! it would be so cool!!!
PLEASE GUYS PLAY ARKHAM ORIGINS!!!!!! It’s not by the same company as the good Batman games, but it’s story is canon and it takes place on one of Batman’s first Christmas’s!!!! It’s pretty much boss fight after boss fight I love the game so much
Is... is it weird that i kinda wanna play it now that i have seen this video? I wouldn't pay a lot of money for it mind you but yeah, you got me curious Austin. Well done!
I was so hyped about this, I even pre-ordered it. That is on me. I didn't think this was game terrible but it certainly could've been more. When it works, the coop mode can make it much more bearable.
I definitely think people who are more familiar with Bat family lore will get more out of this game than people thinking it's another Arkham game. Comic fans have been waiting forever for all these characters to come together. There is so much more story and substance to experiment with just Batman vs Gotham's rouges gallery. I'm sad for the mid reception for something I think was a step in the right direction. It would be amazing if they ever made a Batman movie that wasn't just another origin story.
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FINALLY GOTHAM KNIGHTS HAS ARRIVED. There was a small scheduling mishap so this was originally supposed to be the first video of the year, but it is what it is. When I originally tossed this into the ring as a potential poll option, I wasn't expecting it to win, let alone take 40 percent of the vote. But well, I'm glad y'all picked it. Is Gotham Knights a trash fire like everyone says or is there something a little more? Also there's a comic. That's cool.
Let me know other deep dives and "100 percent" videos y'all want me to check out. There's a big one, Avengers that's gonna be getting it's final patch soon so... that seems like a good idea?? Bad Idea?? IDK
Can you do Avengers lol, I stopped playing after the boring endgame
Do Marvel's Avengers next also Guardians of the Galaxy
Review Marvel's midnight suns game
Video starts at 2:42
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Best part of Red Hood is how all of his ability descriptions try to emphasize how non-lethal his stuff is despite the gameplay being the total opposite. You get gems like "Red Hood plants a concussion grenade on grappled enemies, which then explodes into smaller cluster concussion grenades."
Does Red Hood prefered killing is opponents?
@@garibaldibritann1240 Storywise no, Red Hood is reformed and doesn't kill anymore.
Gameplay wise, Red Hood turns Gotham Knights into a 3rd person shooter where you try to headshot enemies as much as possible for massive crit damage bonuses.
@@jakesteel4916With non-lethal bullets.
@@prezmil4282 non lethal PIERCING bullets
I would have loved it if all of his weapons/abilities just had non-lethal in front of everything as a joke.
The one cool thing about this game is the patrolling on different nights. The Arkham games were basically the four worst nights of batman's life, but going on regular patrols with long running crimes to solve is a great concept for a superhero game
Yeah that’s what keeps me returning to this game quite frequently. The city really just feels like a cool place to hang out and patrol around. The lighting and, color palette and the mood of the city is so engrossing.
Really cool idea, but the game itself is not good enough to support it.
@@flyingplantwhale545eh
Add that "one cool thing" to a bunch of its other cool things, like the dialogue/characterisation of the characters and the game was definitely a great if flawed bat family experience
@@biconditionals The dialogue and character writing was terrible what are you on about?
As mid as the game turnt out, I still think the idea of utilizing the Bat family is really cool, and I don't want that to go to waste because Gotham Knights fumbled the baton pass.
Oh bleep. Persona's format doesn't fit everything (couldn't really imagine SpongeBob or Spider-Man quite working in that format), but imagine the Bat Kids, post Death of Batman, working as an eight person Persona style turn based RPG unit out of the gate? That could have been HYPE.
Dick
Tim
Jason
Barbara
Cass
Steph
Damien
And, sure, why not have Harper Row, for balance?
I'm hoping and coping for a Ninja Turtles style Gotham Knights game, but it being good since TMNT is kinda of struggling as a franchise right now with the exception of the comics.
I think a part of the reason it got so much hate is because the last batman game looks and plays better than this
i always thought that what if instead of the bat family we get the titans game in the same format, it will be great imo
You tripping
I'm surprised this game didn't leave off with a Damian reveal. Batman's family has to raise his secret son. Probably would have got people interested in a sequel.
If only they had more people on the team who actually had passion for what they were making and they didn't get railroaded into making this quasi live-service schlock. This is a great idea and would have been really fun to see
I will say I like how caked up Dick Grayson and Barbara Gordon is. Wish I had more nice things to say about this game.
Hahahahahaha just started playing yesterday for the first time. Picked Batgirl as my first and got her to lvl 10 before I realized you could change characters AND level them up with gear from the other characters that you found. Batgirl does have all the cake haha. Haven't tried red hood or Nightwing yet. Robin does seem fun though. Enjoying his element use and not really liking his first bow staff special. Other then that it's a pretty fun game.
@@MiBrCo4177 I’m sorry but the gameplay is extremely generic
@@jamaaldagreatest2748 oh most definitely without question haha. However its fun for what it is. it's more then likely the fact that I've not played an open world game in quite some time.
@@MiBrCo4177 what a coincidence
I picked up the game 2 hours ago and ALSO picked batgirl
@@Lung-Stealer lol yeah I figured she would be a different play style... I was kinda wrong.
It definitely feels like it was supposed to be a live service game, but was changed at the last minute. Perhaps they changed that in response the reception of Marvel's Avengers.
It was, and they absolutely did. Such a fucking shame.
@@IzraelGraves is it? It's now mediocre instead of trash because of it
@@thatitalianlameguy2235 i think he means it's a shame they we're initially going down that path
at the very least hopefully they take this as a fail on last minute switches and not because it was the bat family instead of Batman
@@alonsomorales3249 You and I already know that they won't do that. The easiest excuse with the least accountability is the usually the one taken.
If they're dumb enough they might take it in reverse, aka "we should've stuck to our guns and stayed focus on live service."
My soul cried a little every time Arkham Knight was said in plural form so it cried an awful lot
Thats me whenever someone pluralizes "Attack on Titan"
@@SolidSnake240 that’s reasonable. There’s multiple attacks and titans.
Yeah same. And he called it the "Rocksteady trilogy" and called Arkham Origins a "spin-off".
He probably never played them and barely knows about the Arkham games.
@@TheFirstCurse1He didn't call it a spin-off. He said it was considered a spin-off. It not being included in the Arkham collection doesn't help.
@@captainmega6310 Same thing. And it's not a spin-off. It's part of the Arkham Quadrilogy.
I keep forgetting that this game even released, considering how little people were talking about it compared to the previews.
I’m glad people like Austin exist, to actually play games that people shit on and forget about and actually give them a chance
Well its not like this game didnt deserve the bashing it got.
I mean, so did the reviewers. No one in the mainstream reviewed this game without "actually playing it"
@@bikechan9903 you mean "actually play it" for 15 seconds and vomit out the same thing the internet is saying
@@yummynubs3646 both gamespot and IGN's reviewers spent 30 hours on the game before writing their reviews.
Is this one of those games like Days Gone where it gets "good" after 60 hours?
It really helps.
Honestly just playing Jason and shooting my way through Gotham was a good time
Is it weird this video literally made me go buy it on Steam? Like...it's a video about how mid this game is and all I can think is "Shooting things as Jason looks fun".
@@Goldenkitten1 valid honestly. It's a fun time if you have the right expectations for it
@@LadySatya I think as an RPG nerd all the numbers don't put me off like I think it did a lot of the more standard action fans expecting another Arkham City.
This game sucks
That's pretty much the reason I'm gonna buy it, I've wanted a free roam Red Hood game for the longest time. Also wish we got a standalone Arkham Tim Drake game. I usually don't care for Robin ever but he really shines in the Arkham games
Nightwing leads
Batgirl does machines
Red Hood is cool but rude
Robin is a party dude
Yeah, this is basically a TMNT game
2 videos in one week.
Man is putting in work for our entertainment.
Thanks
Hear, hear!
I'm just having fun and bein tired.
He must not have "muh kids"
I like the concept and the ideas like patrols on different nights to break up the story and how it’s presented. If there was one thing that really killed the story pacing of Arkham Knight it was how after every major story beat you were reminded there were other subplots. At certain points it’s like “Alfred who the fuck cares, Barbara just killed herself!”
Saw this game on sale for $28 and figured it was time to give it a try. Even as a DC fan, I stayed away from release day since everyone said the game was glitchy and sucked. I've been playing for about 10hrs and I love this game. As a fan I love the story. As a fan of the Arkham games I'm glad it looks similar but the game play is different. I love the different fighting styles of the characters. Love patrols in Gotham. Love the detective work. It takes itself less seriously than the Arkham games. It's fun. Reminds me more of Spiderman PS4.
(I know this comment is four months old so sorry for dragging you back)
I 100% agree, I also played after the game seemed to be optimised a bit so the lag and glitching wasn't too bad or often. I loved the story and ability to play with friend in Gotham. Honestly I kinda wish we had more optional bosses/stories with more of the rogues gallery.
I’m way late to this, just randomly decided to check it out on game pass. I’m not experienced with the Arkham games which probably helps in this case because I’ve been thoroughly enjoying this game. Only like 8 hours in but it’s just generally fairly fun, serviceable stealth and combat and a decent story so far. Waiting to play games and going in with no expectations and not paying $70 pays off haha
@@swingingfordearlifeI played it on release and I had a great time. I think I logged about 60 hours onto the game before I was done, and a huge part of that was just doing every possible crime I could every night because I found in fun. That being said, you should absolutely try the Arkham games after this one.
Been playing about 20 hours now from ps+ premium. It’s wayyyy better than the internet and reviews led it to be!
This boy working hard this month 😂 appreciate you Austin.
the credits remind me of Pokémon omega ruby and alpha sapphire where in the credits it would have what Pokémon you used to beat a gym leaders last Pokémon there. so as it went your team would evolve and you'd have new pokemon, it was a cool sequence.
This game is a good comparison to suicide squad when it comes to showing a company bowing down to live service complaints, then you have suicide squad that didn’t and still went through with the live service model
8:24 is it just me or does Bruce look like Metro Man?
imagine if spiderman had to unlock his webswinging and wallcrawling in his game
I cant get past the fact that this dudes vocab and cadence is about 3/4 of the way to being full blown "witerawwy fweakin wediuwous"
Now I just want a Batman Beyond video game. It'd be so cool to have cyberpunk, batman, detective, super tech shenanigans.
They'd totally ruin Terry by trying overly hard to connect it awkwardly to the more popular continuities, but it could potentially be cool enough as to be worth it lol
That's for being honest about how you feel about the game. So many youtubers act like games have to define the art of gaming, or the games are trash fire. It's okay for games to be okay.
Sometimes, mid is okay!
@@austineruption
Not at $70 it's not
Think it’s gonna be awhile before we ever get a Batman game as good as the Arkham games if this is any indicator.
Well. That also depends on your opinion on detective games and grind-fests.
I personally prefer them to the Arkham style, even if this is not up to par I absolutely have enjoyed it more because that's my preference
@@humanistwriting5477 agreed, couldn’t finish Arkham knights because of the god awful bat tank missions, my friend and I had a great time running through this game together. If you weren’t expecting an Arkham clone it’s a fine game
It's funny you say that because I'm currently playing this right now and I'm enjoying it. The story is interesting enough to keep me entertained although I don't care much for the power level aspect of it because I feel like it wasn't needed. So it is making to go back and play through finally all three Arkham games and their entirety. I feel like right now I'm more enjoying that it's an open world beat him up game and I've not played one of them in quite a long time.
Ngl, kind of wanna read the comics just for the Runaway. That is one of the coolest hero designs I've seen in a while
I have mixed feelings about gotham knights character designs but man the harley quinn boss outfit is great honestly one of my favorites of her looks
Just so you know, the Archie MegaMan comics are amazingly fun and fit the tone of the games perfectly.
My best friend and I were so hyped for this game. We were pumped for a Arkham styled CO-OP experience and we had played really bad games before, so we felt we were adequately prepared. We preordered it on PC, but neither of us could have foreseen just how bad the performance issues were. I would get ~20FPS outside in the open world, and at some points it even dipped into the single digits. Once, it even dropped below 1FPS because one random enemy was slowing down the game BIG TIME during a fight. But inside buildings and underground, I would get a perfect 60FPS. The whole open world was woefully unoptimized to the point where I couldn't ride the bat-cycle without outpacing the world loading around me. I have a decent rig that is able to run Arkham Knight on ultra at a stable 60FPS, but it barely met the minimum requirements for Gotham Knights.
We were disappointed by the massive technical issues that held back the game. The game on its own is average with potential, probably getting a passing grade of a C, but the technical issues really kept drove our score further and further down. When they introduced that patch in early November, the game got very unstable. We learned that if either of us crashed, we BOTH had to close and relaunch the game, otherwise the game would still think we were in a lobby together. When we beat the game, it crashed on the credits for both of us. We uninstalled it almost immediately. We didn't even wait for the 4 player CO-OP mode to come out, so I'm glad you covered that in the video.
But you know that WB didn't have any faith in the game when it didn't get a season pass; hell, leaked screenshots from the Suicide Squad game shows that it already has a season pass. The way I see it is that WB had two options when it came to Gotham Knights: either give the devs more time to polish the game or to push the game out and move the majority of the team elsewhere. We already know what option they picked, so let's hope Suicide Squad is good enough to justify them sacrificing Gotham Knights for it.
Yeah, don’t put your hope too high for Suicide Squad: no actual gameplay in three years and at three months at the release, a leak that actually put together an awful plot and a battle pass, and this game has more red flags than hype.
If you really have to rely on the sole name of the studio and his previous success then something is pretty fishy.
Good thing you preordered so they know to do it again for the next game
Many theorized it was to be a live service but with how bad that avengers live service game went, they quickly tried to turn it back into a single-player game hence all the resources and crafting, gear score things.
Personally I've taken to sit back and watch triple A's shoot themselves in the foot over experiencing games just being alpha tested by the public, like many have started doing.
That is the issue at hand, they don't have more time. Atleast, not in the companies eyes the vast majority of the time. They say "I want Gotham Knights done in 3? years" and when that three years is up they can probably squeeze a delay or two but much more than that and they're bleeding money that could be spent on the salaries of workers on a better game.
Which even hurts it more so with reviews, you release a 60ish hour game and the reviewer who NEEDS the clicks and views right away only can spend a bit of time playing it before they uninstall it and move on to the next game on their to do list that is likely coming out when the deadline for them to be relevant or in the case of big review sites, actual deadline for the review.
There is also a massive echo chamber and more people like negative reviews than positive ones, because its more cathartic to see a thrashing.
@@TheMaskedWarrior92 They have a state of play for it today so here's hoping at 4PM EST.
The characters having a shared level seems very convenient and seems like it cuts down any grinding a ton considering you don't have to level up four different characters
I still plan on getting this one and you kinda solidified what I felt the game would be. A decent game which is fun to a certain kind of person. Especially if you don't go into it trying to force it into an Arkham mold. A decent 7. I agree. 7's have a place in our libraries. Don't always need a A5 wagyu. Sometimes you can enjoy a 15 piece from McDonald's
Honestly you’re spot on. It’s a solid 6 or 7 that reallllly got hurt by the inevitable comparisons to the Arkham series. Nothing I plan on redownloading but can’t hate
Certainly one of the games released last year
Punching bags of the week and bandwagoning have become a massive problem. The unchecked negativity completely disgusts me and has caused me to stop looking at literally anything about any game until I'm done with it.
That’s what I do now
If it keeps me entertained a few hours every morning after work and all night long on my nights off
It’s a winner
Arkham Knight, singular! I couldn’t figure out if the pronunciation was comment bait but it finally got to me
Man Gotham Knights' looks like something I'd really enjoy. You've sold me on at least giving this game a shot at some point if I ever get a nice PC or a PS5
17:06 LMAO i actually SCREEAAMED laughing with that bat girl zoom in + echoing "jason??" 😂😂😂
Got a cheap key for it and ended up having quite fun with it to be honest. Wouldn't play through it again or use NG+, but for one Playthrough it was totally fine.
I agree with Austin saying that there should be a sequel if they do it right...the game definitely had potential.
yea i think if they work on the technical side, give you what you got at the end of the game at the start of the next one such as traversal, scrap the rpg aspects (power level stresses me out if its not maxed gear lmfao) and tweak the combat a bit(please just ADD PARRIES), it has some serious potential
Its fumny the titles are called playing (blank) so you dont have to. But it actually makes me want to play these when i watch the videos
Someone who gives a great review instead of 20 minutes of bashing. Definitely subscribed and adding the game to my wishlist to pick up down the road. Thank you for your work!
Tim Drake is not the newest Robin. That’s Damien Wayne. And Jason Todd isn’t a zombie.
Batgirl's a tank because she hides all the damage in her bullet proof dump truck
“it’s boring but it’s good!”
I get the feeling this was going to be a live service game, but the higher-ups put the kibosh on that when Avengers and some of the other live services started losing money
Ok, I'd love if they went heavy into being a detective with The Question. An underrated hero with endless possibilities.
I'm not joking when I say it is so refreshing to have a review treat games fairly. I know I commented something to this affect in a past video, but it's so rare. I really do like your videos man. Good work!
The party's not over until I'm defeated!
*Spin kick*
KO!
At least it's realistic. One spin kick to the face usually does end a fight.
You do great work Austin! Appreciate you taking one for us viewers for some of these games. Your "so you don't have to" series is one of my favs on TH-cam.
Heard that red hood had non legal guns and immediately never gave it a second thought
I enjoyed the game, while I can admit it’s not revolutionary it was fun. I enjoyed playing as Batgirl and Robin, and it felt kind of nice playing in an open world like Gotham.
I mainly played as Nightwing and Red Hood; and because of that, I had a blast. Finally being able to roam as Nightwing in Gotham was huge for me
I wish publishers would help keep games flowing smoothly in the right direction. The co-op and loot mechanics bog the game down and serve to get developers away from the core experience
Yeah the loot was basically wasted time and co-op needed to not be server based especially if said servers were janky too. They could have had costumes with colors and little tweeks. Then have elements be something you can swap in and out that already scales to the player.
I absolutely LOVE The Runaway!!! He's such a perfect concept for a new DC Western Hero! He fits perfectly into the classic guys like Vigilante and Jonah Hex! It's a perfect fusion of that era with modern sensibilities for a cool superhero concept!
Dude, that final charming scene that you were talking about was shown as a trailer at one point I think. I remember that was one of the first things I ever saw of Gotham knights and I thought the whole game was going to be like that, which I was not excited about. Having it be bookended as the last thing is way way better than being the first thing you saw lol
i really hope wb decides that suicide squad shouldnt be a marvels avengers style live service title, but recent rumors suggest that they wont
Coming from the future to say that Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League makes this game look like a an actual game.
That Akira-inspired bike is reeling me in. I really don't want to play the DLC, but that bike.....
Oh hey, 60 hours to 100% a title that mostly everyone thought was mid? That _does_ sound like paradise compared to spending 122 hours to 100% Cyberpunk 2077, a game that got (and still gets) a ton of flak, but me? I love it!
We didn't get wallrunning or whatever features CPR might've promised before release, but my first playthrough that started on launch week and ended on January 19, 2021 was actually relatively painless, about 80 hours and I was more fortunate than most, got few bugs (though the ones that I did encounter were pretty nasty, including one softlock, thank Christ the game saves every five seconds) and enjoyed the story and gunplay a lot, not very often you see actual dismemberment systems in First-Person Shooters nowadays, picking up where Soldier of Fortune left, and it looks absurdly beautiful and colourful, a far cry from the piss filter-ridden days of the seventh gen of consoles.
I decided to start a replay december of last year and I'm sorry-not-sorry, but I still love it, and in fact, it's when I decided to go for 100%.
But what does all that have to do with Gotham Knights? Simple, if you enjoy the game, don't give a shit about what other people say, it really is just that.
I actually like this game. And I'm considering playing it another 4 times as I would rather play this game again then go near the god-awful trainwreck that was Suicide Squad: Kill Rocksteady Studios.
The game is actually called rocksteady:kills the arkhamverse.
Suicide squad is ass but it’s definitely better than GK.
@@mr.longjohn0014 nah gotham knights is arkham city compared to suicide squad.
I liked Gotham Knights a lot. It was fairly fun. Batgirl was my go to and she just felt super engaging, the story was fun, overall I enjoyed it.
I watched this review and the avengers one. Great reviews but who is in charge of the background music on these videos it is incredible. The review got a thumbs up but using iceman’s theme from X-MEN COTA in the background? That got me to subscribe !
The game WAS a live service game. Then they removed everything last minute.
The title feels like a challenge and I accept it
This game is a five and you would still be charitable
Why not try to see the positives in stuff, even if it's mediocre?
@@austineruption These kids have no experience with Daikatana or Drake and the 99 dragons. Gonna go install a bunch of cringe mods.
I’m at 16:10 and you’ve genuinely convinced me to go back and replay the game. If I remember I’ll update how it went
The "mediocre zone" on a scale 1-to-10 should not be placed at 7.5. Why the heck do we need 6 shades of "bad"?
I’m basically a year late but yea. Dude simply didn’t want to criticize the game too much I think. 7.5 is a pretty solid/good game. Not “mediocre” like he said.
People only rate games from 5 to 10. Bc 7 is in the middle it means it's average. 5 or 6 would be equivalent to "below average" even though it doesn't make any sense lol
@@jimcarrey2866It sort of makes sense if you think about how grading works. 50% is a failing F, 90% is a successful A.
Low key one of the best Harley Quinn designs in any medium.
I see Austin's also being recommended all the based PC-98 music on TH-cam 🤣 Quality work as always.
Based is REAL
If they removed the leveling this game could have been much more fun. The best about spiderman and arkham is that you feel powerful by the end but getting taken down by lvl 50 thugs is really humbling and quite the drag
I didn't mind this game at all, but I'm not surprised it turned up on so many disappointed games lists. I'll be honest there were multiple times I wanted to stop playing and go on to something else (Whenever I did I couldn't think of anything else to play so I kept playing.) As I kept at it past the opening hours however I couldn't put it down and ended up enjoying myself. The problems I have with Gotham Knights I just wish it wasn't so grindy and enemies weren't so bullet spongey even when you're level capped it was annoying.
One cutscene in the game has both players. When you're escaping from the mines and they're blowing up and youre being chased by the owl dudes. Your character opens up the door at the end and looks back before going through it. If you're with a friend, when your character looks back, your buddy runs through the door before you follow after him. Only cutscene in the entire game at least that I know of.
I liked this game a lot more than most! It was an imperfect but fun game and I think a lot of people expect perfection from every release these days
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Yeah game burn out has happened to me too. I started Transformers:Devastation in idk, 2018 or 2019?? Dropped it after maybe 2 hours. But then finally came back and played it a lot over Winter 2023 and fell in love with it.
I remember when this game came out I had saved up alot of money but still figured to wait and maybe buy it months from now. Then i saw a friend playing it online and asked how it was. He said it was actually really good. I bought it and maybe 2 hours later knew I had made a mistake
That sucks. I hear no one talking about GK. But people are always talking about AK.
This game is a solid 8/10 imo. I loved it
Tim Drake may have the Adam Sandler look, but I still prefer it whatever they did to Jason Todd. Dude looks like every football player I knew back in High School. Dude looks like regularly listens to Alex Jones and Joe Rogan. Dude looks like he sells drugs despite having a trust fund. Dude looks like the human version of Knuckles in Sonic Boom.
I genuinely liked Side Story bits of characters, Nightwing struggling with leadership, Robin dependable on Batman's guidance trying to overcome it, Redhood's traumatic past and trying to be team member. Except Batgirl who can't remember her father's face? And questioning her photographic memory?😅
I'm decidedly not a comic or superhero fan, and I can't really get into open world sandbox type games, but something about watching this game and knowing you can do the whole thing co-op has me more than mildly interested. I really want to grab a friend, rent or buy this for cheap, and just go at it for a weekend. It's too bad the overlap of people I know who are knowledgeable enough about Batman to explain things to me and people who care for these kinds of games is practically nonexistent.
I expect it to show up in a humble bundle eventually
It would be perfect for that, expecially if you could find a batman nerd to explain stuff, like you said.
I'm with ya on Batman Beyond. It would be so cool to see it get a revival somehow
I know it's completely irrelevant and I'm being super pedantic pointing it out, but every time you said Arkham *Knights* hurt me just a little bit ;)
I love these "I beat _ 100% so you don't have to" videos btw. Whenever you do one on a game I'm somewhat unsure about getting, it always helps me come to a decision.
Yeah I know I messed up. I sure said the word "Knights" like 100 times though.
Bruh, that sounds like an IGN 7 if anything.
in less than 10 years well get a make your own batman create a character game with leveling loot and 3 man co op and itll be a 77/100
This game is NIGHT AND DAY better than suicide squad. I actually really enjoyed Gotham Knights
My ideal Gotham Knights would have taken place in the Arkhamverse with Arkham Knight style gameplay (not a fan of the new combat and RPG mechanics). The Belfry team would be Barbara (still as Oracle), Dick, Tim and Cassandra Cain as Batgirl. Jason would be his own thing, still murdering criminals and hiding from his ex-team, maybe they would fight at certain point and then redeem himself to become lame non-lethal Red Hood at the end. Keep motorcycles as the main mean of transport, but make them faster and cooler, so you don't miss gliding as much.
I really just want the ability to use traversal abilities indoors. Big warehouses and stuff full of enemies are annoying when i wanna glide over their heads and have plenty of room but it wont let me
As someone who likes games with good itemization it's so sad to see it executed such that the most positive thing I have heard is "you can ignore it."
I like the costumes aspect, but it just feels arbitrary most of the time.
I'd love an extension to this game, maybe adding characters like Cassandra Cain or Damien Wayne as new characters
Holy shit I haven't gotten a notification on your account in a hot minute. Great video and really happy you reviewed this. I played it with a friend as our first game we played together in years and despite the issues it was a really fun and great time that ended in a nightmare fight where my friend who isn't as much of a gamer ended up saving the final hard mode fight flailing around like a madman and chipping her down. It's a great game and glad to played it. The sole thing I really wish is if it just had more. More polish, more content, more story. I know Suicide Squad is being done by another team, but I cant help but thank Gotham Knights for being that gateway game to get into gaming more with a friend I haven't had much time to really do anything with. It's special to me and sucks to see so many people dumpster it as hard as it is. It's what gets exhausting about the gaming community and the internet as a whole where it just becomes a never ending navigation of trying to avoid kicking a seemingly never ending amount of hornets nests over any and everything.
Happy belated birthday and the last time I think I saw a vid you had blue hair haha. Another cool thing Gotham Knights had unexpectedly brought to me is your channel and I'm sure a decent backlog.
Actually, Octopath traveler did something similar with the credits, showing which party members you had, and a small clip from the end of each boss
Now I really want you to play Marvel's Avengers. It would be very interesting to get your take on that game. Especially after seeing what you said about this one. I know the game is ending but it will still be playable so it would be interesting to see what you say.
If you pay close attention during gameplay, you can randomly hear someone say something followed by “eh?” 😂
Great video Austin!! I wanted to like the game but enduring the whole bunch of bugs at launch I was experiencing was too much, for the first time in my life I refunded a steam game...
By the way after playing Hi-Fi Rush I just want now a Harley Quinn game in that graphical style and embracing sillyness!!! it would be so cool!!!
PLEASE GUYS PLAY ARKHAM ORIGINS!!!!!! It’s not by the same company as the good Batman games, but it’s story is canon and it takes place on one of Batman’s first Christmas’s!!!! It’s pretty much boss fight after boss fight I love the game so much
Belated happy birthday Austin!
Thank you!
@@austineruption Happy belated thanks for the content
That Arkham Asylum case made me burst out laughing, what a gorgeous case. Those were the days. [citation needed]
I love Gotham knights. Especially the Batgirl stealth takedowns from above🤨
Ayoo? 😮
5:28 “my partner”
cuuuuute
Is... is it weird that i kinda wanna play it now that i have seen this video? I wouldn't pay a lot of money for it mind you but yeah, you got me curious Austin. Well done!
I was so hyped about this, I even pre-ordered it. That is on me. I didn't think this was game terrible but it certainly could've been more. When it works, the coop mode can make it much more bearable.
I definitely think people who are more familiar with Bat family lore will get more out of this game than people thinking it's another Arkham game. Comic fans have been waiting forever for all these characters to come together. There is so much more story and substance to experiment with just Batman vs Gotham's rouges gallery. I'm sad for the mid reception for something I think was a step in the right direction. It would be amazing if they ever made a Batman movie that wasn't just another origin story.
I was having trouble focusing on what you were saying when the Legend of Legaia music came on 🕺😂
Red Hood having superpowers is so dumb