IQ and nationality across the world: is there any discernible association between the two?
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- It is claimed that there are dramatic differences between the intellectual ability of people in China and those in central Africa. How reliable are the data upon which this idea is based?
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A bright girl in my class of 15 year olds was never absent. One day she was not there so I asked her friends if she was ok. They said that a nasty boy in their class in another subject, had beaten her and put her in hospital ....for answering too many questions. This type of intellectual jealous rage might explain some of the random unprovoked attacks we see these days
Or the up to 20% archaic hominid dna that is aggressive and impulsive. Like stone age hunter gatherers are adapted to be like?
@@ChaadFairservice20022 yes, horse for corses
When I was a pupil in the junior school, I was given a 'merit' badge for outshining the class and this resulted in jealousy! So I decided to keep my mouth shut in future! 🤔
@valeriegrimshaw1365
I've witnessed this type of abuse as well, that's why brilliant children should always be protected by enrolling them in advanced classes, or perhaps advanced schools.
They were called Grammar Schools ..@@theenglishman8668
Is anyone else tired of seeing ads pleading for money to solve the problems of africa i.e. sanitation, clean water, teaching them that their animals need water/food/medical attention, medication for malaria, eye problems, miney to help keep girls in school and not be married off. Its the 21st century - no matter the millions poured into the country nothing changes.
But I thought they were the people who invented everything in the modern world?
The last time the world injected capitol into Africa and received a return was during the time of slavery.
Foreign aid should be renamed to 'Money Laundering'.... because that's exactly what it is....🙄
I am 60 this year from Scotland and i can remember even as a child learning and see things about giving to Africa, so are so on point with this no matter how much money we all give as a planet it will never change.
I was sick of it 40yrs ago when i didnt have a pot to piss in,i didnt breed,got a job and did something about my plight.
Surely Wakanda lifts the African continent's overall IQ to an average of teenage super genius
Not even in their wildest dreams.
I think all the folk in Wankander were all murdered while they slept in their utopia, I'm sure it will soon be proved to have been carried out by White men. 🤔😉
Wakanda's a real place. Great buildings, universities, public parks, fountains, abundant electricity. Its real name is Johannesburg. Then the locals took over it and it went the same way as Haiti.
Yes they are eleventymillionhundredthousand and 33 and 6 quarters better than us for sure. Their stats cant be wrong they was kangs ffs 😂
But yet you fear the so called Blk man doing everything in you're power to disrupt and destroy any Progress, 400 year's of Oppression,
The fact 80% of Africans are bilingual 70% speak numerous European languages doesn't equate to IQ is hilarious, anyway for a people who are so supposedly thick, the fear is real 😂
It's not only having high IQ! it's being able to use intelligence for invention and innovation, which europeans are still at the top of Invention and innovation.
Lol why couldn't the europeans use their high intelligence to figure out that the corona V***** was all poison? Have you seen the deagel stats?
After the fall of Rome, Europe went into a decline which lasted most of the next thousand years. During that time, the intellectual centre shifted to the muslim world, which acted not only as the inheritor of classical learning but also as a conduit for learning coming from India especially. The islamic golden age lasted until the early mid-13th century when the Mongols sacked Baghdad, throwing so many books into the Tigris that it was claimed the waters ran black with ink for months, and a man on a horse could pass across the river by riding on the discarded volumes. Much of the new knowledge that found its way to Europe entered though Al-Andalus (muslim Spain). It's arguable that the muslim world has never recovered from that devastation, just as Afghanistan hasn't after the Mongols destroyed the network of irrigation canals in the country.
It's not simple IQ that led to European primacy, but the development of political systems which allowed for innovation. Other areas of Eurasia suffered either from a string of warlord rulers or, as in the case of China, an over-mighty and stifling bureaucracy, which strangled any new ideas at birth.
When David Lammy first appeared on Celebrity Mastermind and thought Marie Antoinette discovered Radium i did start to wonder about his IQ i must admit.
And told the camera he hadn't seen a policeman all day. Even though there was one stood behind him.
@@charlesbeltington-smythe9229 Since Mr Lammy's ill fated appearance on Celebrity Mastermind i have noticed the general knowledge questions have got considerably easier , for instance a recent question they asked was what is T you can put butter or jam on it , Answer Toast , even Lammy would have cracked that one 😀😃😄
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Exactly, but he's one of the cleverest.
A prince among diversity hires.
They did an exercise at a University in SA where you are supposed to get the most intellegent. The gap was the same. You can argue all day, the proof is out there. We build up SA in 30+ years and produced power the cheapest in the world. Gave it to the dark and it was destroyed to a point where we have loadshedding. if its not IQ then possibly a lack of moral compass or all of the above.
Excessive testosterone is my guess....🙄
You possibly didnt provide electricity and homes to the poor as we know. ANC did all that
Look also at Haiti, and other carribean countries, Haiti has been independent for over a hundred years, it is now a failing country, they are thousands of miles removed from their origins yet the outcome is still the same as, say South Africa, same people same outcome, which I find really sad
@@rexona1178 Haha, wrong! If you think the ANC provided electricity and homes to poor black Africans, then you are woefully misinformed.
@@andrewhall7176 it is true that white people especially the Afrikaans are more skilled than other Africans. The solution is for us to help each other and try to live as one and not try to divide people by race. That is why i respect people like Christo Wiese and many other Afrikaans for working to develop the continent instead of preaching race. Humanity will overcome instead of hatred.
The Bellcurve is a great read
Very clever man. The sociologist Charles Murray wrote articles warning us that we were in danger of creating an underclass in the UK because of our benefits system....back in the 1970s....
And Making Sense of Race by Ed Dutton
@@valeriegrimshaw1365 the destruction of the grammar school system was the very worst thing that happened to british education
@@valeriegrimshaw1365The underclass is a myth disproven in a study that included there are only a handful of families in the UK where three generations haven't worked. And the UK benefits system is inadequate; nothing like what it was in the '70s.
@@thomasrobert4654every kid in my one room village school in 1970 passed the 11 plus... All but one came from blue collar or farm employee families...
That year they closed the grammar schools in the County...
I still maintain that this was a loss to society in terms not just of ability but of those kid's relatively low starting points in society.
Knowing where you came from, (apart from inevitable few self important prats), is key to balanced change where it is genuinely required.
Having some toff that never once went to bed cold decide what is best for others is seldom going to achieve anything equable... IMO.
Well I think of it like this. Africa is loaded with resources. It has food, metals, wood, fuel sources, diamonds and whatever else a civilization could need. In spite of this, large parts of it remained in the stone age until only recently.
Many European countries (Ireland for example) are rocky, cold, wet and quite poor when it comes to resources. In spite of that, Europe gave birth to the most advanced civilizations in human history.
My theory is that having very little to work with forces a selection process for creativity, long term planning and impulse control. If you live somewhere where food is readily available, you would have no need for that.
cold winter hypothesis
when you have this amount of resources a whole continent of low intelligence labourers has to be helpful.. then again without compitent managment... sigh :-) (and yes my brain is akin to custard so pls excuse the not so great spelling.. just like most of africa i too dont give a toss how the rest of the world sees me
It does explain a lot. If feeding yourself just came down to picking something off a tree you're not going to really develop your brain.
@@nihilistlivesmatter5197
Yes
I stumbled upon that hypothesis independently to then read about it later. It is exactly how evolution works, and many tens of thousands of years of separation in different environments WILL lead to change due to selection pressures and genetic drift.
That very old saying “necessity is the mother of invention” seems to be unknown these days. Don’t they teach proverbs in school anymore?
IQ is measured on problem solving, pattern recognition, and 3D thinking. Its not based on literacy as that is a learned skill not an inherent one. A crow can't read Paradise Lost but it sure as hell can figure out how to get a peanut out of a bottle. Inherent differences in IQ are apparent when looking at the current and historical states of the world. Europe, East Asia, and historical Middle East had empires and dynasties that lasted for centuries, the descendants of which have led continuously successful countries. Oxford University both pre-dates and outlived the Aztec empire, pre-contact sub-saharan Africa was still in the stone age hunter gatherer phase. What caused the IQ variance by region, whether climate, abundance, lack of predation, etc. is open for debate but anyone with eyes and reason can see that there IS a difference.
The idea that's possible to test innate, inborn intelligence is utter nonsense. Adults who were born deaf who do not learn sign language usually have the intellectual abilities of small children. People raised in deprived environments likewise show significant backwardness, and "primitive" cultures are similarly deprived environments for intellectual development, and the same is true for lower classes of different ethnic groups. Chinese and Jews, even poor ones, have strong traditions of both learning and hard work, while other groups, Southern whites, in America, my country, for example, do not and had lower IQs than Blacks in the North. Geography plays a huge role, especially isolation. People who live in mountainous places, the further one lives from the coast in Africa, and, again, areas of earier European colonization and Christianization, and probably Islamization.
@@mikechristian-vn1lehogwash! You obviously have not watched " A Million Years B.C. " with the delicious Raquel Welch.
@@evaflowervines9520 lovely girl raquel and she had an ar-e like a double decker bus, lovely jubbly rodders.
@@evaflowervines9520 notbseen it since i was a kid, but, obviously, I will have to rewatch it, solely for educational purposes, or course. It disproves evolution, too. Noah just couldn't fit dinosaurs on the Ark.
@@mikechristian-vn1le Intelligence is largely genetic. Not entirely, obviously. Your environment can have some effects on your intelligence as well, but not much. People that live in impoverished areas do have lower intelligences, but why is that? Is it because they're poor that they're less intelligent? Or is it because they and their parents are low in intelligence and the general factor of personality that they're poor in the first place? I do believe that the latter is true, considering the fact that intelligence is largely heritable and has enormous effects on a person's life and financial and social status.
Hey Simon, did you see the report a couple of days ago from Denmark which listed crime by ethnicity? It's very interesting. Spoiler alert, native Danes are well down the list.
Yes, I shall be covering that!
By law, they also list as a Dane, those not Danes who are 3rd generation...just to try to obscure the facts further.
see sanity4swede,,,Malmo 2nd rape capital in the world after africa
typo sanity4sweden
@@roringusanda2837 Any boonga in Denmark would be 1st gen.
There’s been multiple IQ studies conducted over decades- all come to the same inconvenient conclusions. This is not in dispute.
One comparison conducted in the US was looking at the IQ scores of identical twins adopted at birth by different families and thus raised in varying environments. Similarly a representative group of randomly selected people from the same areas had their IQ scores recorded. The study showed that the difference between the identical twin IQs were much smaller than for the sample picked at Random. DNA is the most significant factor determining intelligence.
Very inconvenient for the thought police.
Off the top of my head I think the study was called The Minnesota Twin study. Before this all the experts believed that IQ was down to environmental factors.
The most educated, most well off group of African people are the ones who have lived in the USA for multiple generations. Even with all those advantages, they still average a score in the 80's.
I recall that African Americans recorded higher intelligence than Africans but one has to consider that black Americans have 25% white dna.
Not true, they are in the 90s and so are some of ths island countries in the Caribbean.
African Americans do Ancestry dna tests and often find quite a few European ancestors up the family-tree. Not really a surprise when you consider all the history.
@@theeone4500the average is 85.
@@lugo_9969they got european iq boost for sure
There are places in the world where people get murdered because their heads are believed to contain gold.
just my luck to live in a place where most heads are full of wood 🤣🤣
Where?
Teeth?
@@terrencewalker8219London.
Is that NZ?
The american SATS are illuminating.
Indeed so.
Electric lights are also illuminating.
@UsernameRebelWithTheShits The American SATs are an IQ test.
I think you're straw manning Lynn here. He did acknowledge all of this and thought that Sub Saharan African intelligence could be raised to around 80. He said as much. It's not that he was too lazy to collect the data. It was a lack of funding and time. He merely used the best data available.
Its disgusting how britains achievements are downplayed in the world, so much credit goes to people n countries who stayed simple farmers until britain revolutionised human existence starting in the late 1500s, around the time of shakespeare imo.
Look at china for example, so intelligent yes? Thats why they resisted western inventions n stayed a backwards agrarian society till the 1950s, thats how smart they really are imo.
Similar IQ results would also give a false low value, would occur if certain labour and Democrat politicians are tested, such as our own Diane Abbott, and the American AOC.
Re Abbott, I would really like to know how she got to Cambridge university. I think it was the 70s, so was there some sort of preferred scheme for non ethnics available as far back as that?
@@lsmith992yes the wokey institutions been at it a long time, wrecking meritocracy
I'm from South Africa.
The deterioration of every thing, that requires intelligence, and ability, such as keeping the basic infrastructure of a modern economy running, makes me think that there is indeed a genetic code involved.
Look at Haiti
Bang on. Look at Jamaica too.
Well Haiti has solved both the adequate nutrition and the over population problems at the same time.
Dem Coco Pops ar tick as shiiet an tings.. innit blud!
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We wuzzzz kongzz
It is hard to argue with thousands of years of empirical evidence.
I’ve life experience that has proven what I know about these foreigners.
They are good at running and jumping
Great sport players.
and ???? our white girls enmass , and our gov allow it to keep them quiet
We're all equal in athletic ability. People who think there's a hierarchy to it don't understand. And there's obviously a lot more to sports than athletic qualities anyway.
@@basylpeterjonesare we really all equal in athletic ability......I beg to differ tbh, a shorter heavier person isn't going to be able to jump as high as a taller lighter one......
@@basylpeterjones No we are not equal, I can run fairly quickly but compared to Usain Bolt. ?
@@knockschool When someone says blacks are more athletic, they always point to sprinters - with West African ancestry. Leaving aside the fact that the fastest 60 metre time is by a Chinese sprinter, athletic ability isn't just sprinting and those elite sprinters can't run longer distances. So then they point to Kenyan marathon runners and other East African distance runners and say they're black too - but the problem with that is they can't sprint.
The black athleticism belief might hold water if middle distance events were black dominated. But there's a better argument for saying that blacks are less athletic than everyone else: there have been white British elite sprinters and distance runners, and China has a world record at distance as well as that split-time 60 metre record. What black population has elite athletes in totally different distance categories?
It's not hard to poke holes in studies but when several studies of the same subject corroborate each other despite differences in degree of accuracy, the conclusions can be taken to be true..
So if there's a few studies saying a particular drug is or isn't effective, they shouldn't be questioned? Absolutely nonsense: th-cam.com/video/U0haCpUCfNo/w-d-xo.html
"Studies" are easy to falsify. It doesn't matter how beautiful your theory is or how many papers agree with it or how many professors or institutions believe and enforce it. If it doesn't match reality, it's wrong.
Like Simon said, use good research, discard bad research.
@@sleepyazureeye4969 of course they should be questioned.. I never said they shouldn't.. scientific method relies on repeatability & reproducibility. If those are achieved within statistical variation, conclusions are pretty reliable
I was thinking the same. There is also antidotel ("lived experience") evidence for what it is worth!
@@joefreebs4247 Not necessarily.
Let's go back to the video I linked you above; three studies were discussed in which hundreds of thousands of patients were given a particular dosage of a certain medication under specific conditions.
If you were to repeat them - give the same dosage of the same medication to patients under the same condition - you will indeed be able to reproduce the study and receive the same results. However, all three studies ended up being seriously, seriously wrong.
What they did wrong was:
1. The dosage was above the safe limit, creating a toxic response.
2. The time in which the medication was administered was outside the efficacy window (it was given far too late to have any effect).
3. The patients it was given to were already on their deathbed, having been overcome with the infection. The medication given was the wrong type entirely; at that point, anti-inflammatory medication was needed, not anti-viral medication.
Meanwhile, other studies in which a much lower (and safer) dose of the same medication was administered in the correct timing window found it to be exceptionally effective, as much as 90-95% reduction in hospitalization and mortality.
The problem isn't with the scientific method or reproducibility, the problem is that the study itself has been set up in such a way as to skew the findings and present a pre-determined, desired result.
So for every study, you have to go to their methodology section and scan that for such errors. You cannot simply take it on trust that they did things right, no matter how many similar studies whose results were within a statistical error margin are published.
@@markhenry192 life experience?. I know from being as old as Simon, that's worth an awful lot... You see those studies play out before your eyes
thanks
You're welcome.
An easy way to view a countries capability is whether they can produce cars and/or aircraft. Only one country in sub saharan Africa that has made cars. South Africa. Now why would that be...............
It’s the gold standard used by the military and government intelligence agencies for years.
Emotional intelligence differs considerably across the world too.
Some countries have contributed lots to the world in terms of inventions, literature, art, architecture, education, technology etc, pleanty haven't. Im sure that says alot.
@smogthehorse. Most people can spell words correctly, some people can't. It's "plenty" not "pleanty" and "I'm" not "Im".
My spilling has never been grate . As for the rest of it I just press the keys and let the phone do the work. I could go back and correct it but you get the gist and besides this is no English lesson and pleanty of people make grammatical mistakes so pick on them too ! Seeing I'm a horse I think I do quite well.
@@simonmilligan7497 making a meal out of a typo? what a dick move...disappointing but somehow predictable from you
@@smogthehorse9409 In the grand scheme of things it's a minor oops...I mean it's not like you cited a telephone survey with zero arrests & convictions as proof the South west was more dangerou than inner city London
@@smogthehorse9409 Or that time someone cited DofE data saying bIk kids outperformed wht kids but when you look into it it was an outlier during covid when predicted grades were order of the day.....yeah that would be totally humiliating
Europeans had guns , Africans had spears
Imagine if it was hand to hand combat 😂😂😂
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Exactly! They never showed up to Africa without the gun. They know they can't beat us in hand to hand combat
@@Ratty-zu2nw actually in Franco-Dahomean war the french decided not to waste gunpowder and just used bayonets instead
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Have you ever seen a c him p attack Africans? Don't you just love it when you see the fear in their eyes?👀
The Bell Curve book explains everything….
Interesting information 🤔
IQ increases through successive intellectual challenges over the generations. It's called development. Without stimulation, there is no prompting. That is why. Nothing overly complicated.
I saw a Nigerian labourer carrying a wheelbarrow. Genius.
I've also seen British workers taking their "wheelbarrow tests".......🤦🏻♂️
When Rushton gathered data for South Africa he used university students and found a score of 85 among Bantus. That's the elite.
When I see b Lacks I immediately think.
3rd grade reading level and
Kindergarten comprehension
And.... Zero inner monologue
Just like Simon's fans then.
LOL
@@candy-le4nh 👈 likes his own comments
@@candy-le4nh Or thick like you then..
LOL
Look up Thomas Sowell and Clarence Thomas
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Bobby boy obviously reared his ugly head late today, as I'm in South Florida, and I've already ran around the block and finished my breakfast.😂
There's a brand new service station just opened up down the road from me ( shop, petrol, garage, car wash , Greggs takeaway etc).
Outside on the forecourt standing next to their big flashy expensive cars there was a dozen sharp suited Indian business men all congratulating one another on the launch of their new joint venture - these are obviously the owners.
Its obvious to me that Asian/Indian people are not only highly intelligent but have good business sense and are fiercely driven to succeed.
Hence the reason they are slowly taking over our country.
Literally no more than a few thousand brits took over india with a 125 million plus population, never more than 200,000 brits in india n they ruled till they decided to leave.
@@petersmith5915 .....but today the UK has an Indian Prime Minister, can't remember India ever having a British Prime minister ?
@@davidmclachlan6592 britain built the parliament in india before they left n the whole indian political system is based on britains parliament tho, imo.
So why do they blow themselves up then?
@petersmith5915Things seem to have gone full circle with Indians having the "whip hand" now.
I entered university as a mature aged student in the top 1% of the state but failed miserably and 20 years later discovered I was on the ASD spectrum .
In school I rarely did homework or assignments and teachers tolerated it because I usually got top marks in exams without studying.
That doesn't work at university...
Thomas Sowell is worth looking up regards IQ.
No one cares.. the per capita avg means a genius afro is a mirracle. Where as genius euros are inevitable.
@@ChaadFairservice20022palm coloured are going down the pan ( Toilet)
Why? He's not qualified to comment on it.
@@basylpeterjones Not qualified? That's what you're going with? Thomas Sowell is the Rose and Milton Friedman Senior Fellow on Public Policy at the Hoover Institution.
He writes on economics, history, social policy, ethnicity, and the history of ideas. His most recent book, Discrimination and Disparities (2018), gathers a wide array of empirical evidence to challenge the idea that different economic outcomes can be explained by any one factor, be it discrimination, exploitation or genetics. His books on economics include Housing Boom and Bust (2009), Intellectuals and Society (2009), Applied Economics (2009), Economic Facts and Fallacies (2008), Basic Economics (2007), and Affirmative Action Around the World (2004). Other books on economics he has written include Classical Economics Reconsidered (1974), Say’s Law (1972), and Economics: Analysis and Issues (1971). On social policy, he has written Knowledge and Decisions (1980), Preferential Policies (1989), Inside American Education (1993), The Vision of the Anointed (1995), Barbarians Inside the Gates (1999), and The Quest for Cosmic Justice (1999). On the history of ideas he has written Marxism (1985) and Conflict of Vision (1987). Sowell also wrote Late-Talking Children (1997). He has also written a monograph on law titled Judicial Activism Reconsidered, published by the Hoover Institution Press in 1989. His writings have also appeared in scholarly journals in economics, law, and other fields.
Sowell’s current research focuses on cultural history in a world perspective, a subject on which he began to write a trilogy in 1982. The trilogy includes Race and Culture (1994), Migrations and Cultures (1996), and Conquests and Cultures (1998).
Sowell's journalistic writings include a nationally syndicated column that appears in more than 150 newspapers from Boston to Honolulu. Some of these essays have been collected in book form, most recently in Ever Wonder Why? and Other Controversial Essays published by the Hoover Institution Press in 2006.
Yeah, definitely not qualified.
@@ChaadFairservice20022most "genius" are severely lacking In other areas tho, a mathematical genius may be good with numbers but in some cases will struggle to tie their own shoes........
So were the IQ tests carried out on those people from Ethiopia and Equatorial Guinea not valid simply because they were administered in Israel and Spain instead of in their home countries? I taught for many years in Saudi Arabia where consanguinity rates are very high. Many of my students had considerable learning difficulties with the notable exception of boys from the Abha region which has the lowest rates of first cousin marriages in the kingdom. When I had a boy from Abha in my class, it was obvious immediately. He was brighter than his classmates. He learned at a much faster rate and particated to a far greater degree in class. I don’t think you can dismiss the results of those IQ tests on the basis of where they were administered. It's not as straightforward as that.
Philippe Rushton has a great book on this.
Some of the people I know who have university degrees are not very bright at all, while other people I know who are trades people seem more intelligent and have more wisdom/street-smarts. Go figure! 🤔
Educated fools tend to be one trick ponys tbh focused on one subject, alot of genius tend to be autistic and while being very clever also tend to be very gullible, the higher ups don't like to believe the peasantry are on n equal level when it comes to intelligence tho do they......
The last of the Mohicans , lets hope this generation isnt the last of the E Nation 🏴
White is the Tar get cos only us can stop them.
Suggesring that IQ wouldn't vary among human populations is utterly ridiculous.
Leftwaffe are ridiculous
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I don't need an acadrmic paper to tell me that I am smarter than everyone else around me. They remind me on a daily, sometimes hourly, basis.
If you are the smartest person in the room, then you are in the wrong room.
@@johnmcguinness6145 I doubt such a room exists.
Einstein was blak init
E woz!
Oh mammy, we dun got clever with real book learning but we can't read no how.
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Hez know az Big-Ally-E 'round Brixton.
A lil bit (like all tribe members are). But also an incest loving, cousin marrying, niece banger.
The documented history's of exploration is a good indication of various factors of advancements tribes and races had achieved world wide throughout history should bare witness to I Q levels Simon ? : )
Dont need a study to show me what I've known for years. Thick blik, proven time and again
We wuz vikingz and britonzzz
@@englishpatriot9464they wish 😂
@@BulletProof_Viking horrible histories says otherwise 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I would be interested in videos explaining things like dog eating in some cultures etc, how did it become normalised in china?
Thankyou for this video Simon, i appreciate you calling out propaganda, i believed this study before but thought surely there cant be whole nations of people with iq60
They really are all engineers and doctors then, glad we've cleared that up.
African immigrants in the US and UK are amongst the highest IQ group, and the most academically successful.
If Lynn's scores are so wrong, how come there aren't any "correct" numbers floating around on the internet?
we have genetic data on this now, the name of one prominent researcher in this area is "davide piffer", the genetic data lines up perfectly with the flynn effect adjusted scores
It's not only Richard Lynn who does that. Others do by estimating from the countries around them by an average. This is not reliable either and they should state this when they show the IQ estimates. However, you don't understand what an IQ score is by your description of 'half.'
One island is very bright...so are the few countries next to it...think 10000 miles away. Most are inbetween...one group of islands near the US and a whole continent are special needs.
Thanks for this Simon! A great deal of sense here. Sadly there are many who believe that there is a racial element in intelligence just as there are those who believe that intelligence is biased. dependent on income, family structure etc. The problem is that these opinions can lead to expectation in school and work. It can affect the effort a teacher makes in preparing that child to succeed in later life.
Thanks Simon, as always you are very informative and fair minded. 🇮🇪
Well knock me over with a feather! "The Bell Curve" by Herrnstein & Murray is an interesting read. Any comments Simon? Perhaps you could do a TH-cam clip on this book?
It is obvious that there are anomalies and inaccuracies in these rankings, but overall there is little surprising in the order that emerges. Prosperity seems generally to correlate with intelligence, and it seems more likely that the latter tends to drive the former, rather than the reverse.
I just checked the latest database from Lynn. There are 6 studies done on Ethiopia and only 3 of them come from Israel. Those that come from Israel are actually a little higher than those that don't.
Beta Israel, Ethiopian Jews, DNA proves, are descended not from a Lost Tribe, or other Jews who migrated to the Horn of Africa, but instead from people who converted, during Ethiopia's long Christian era.
It is well known that the data on national IQs is poor, but it should be clarified that modern IQ tests have been designed to be culturally neutral; that is to say, they rely upon abstract tasks like the rotation of pictures or pattern detection, rather than language or mathematics skills. It's not socially acceptable right now to collect IQ data, but if we were to start doing so in the modern era, our picture of national IQ would be pretty clear.
IQ data and estimates for populations and racial groups are published. I don't know why some think this isn't done now.
Using literacy and numeracy arnt the be all and end all when it comes to solving problems, only for communication and working out etc I know plenty who can read an rite, and dd and subtract.....but are also.....ahem thick as fuck 😬😬😬😅😅😅😅 seems to be a lot of them In politics
Another good video. I’ve always thought the IQ stuff was unimportant. Besides, you never want too much of a good thing. Europe and NA could stand to drop a few points.
Well said Simon I have been trying to expose this study for years. If you use credible resources the differences are not insignificant but they are small.
The bell curve explained it all years ago.
You simply need to look at the countries themselves and their buildings and infrastructure to see how obvious IQ and ability are linked.
It is Stone Age stupidity to think otherwise
Glad to see correction on Lynn, because I like him (RIP!). I try not to elevate those I like into being irrefutable sources of knowledge. Another good and educational vid!
People tend to believe lies from people they like and deny truths from those they don't.....
@@josefsterling5462 So true.
Please post in *at least* 1080p
The production quality on these videos is shockingly bad - almost as dire as the content
Wakanda is in the negatives.
Kind of disappointed in your take here. Lynn didn't conduct almost none of the studies. He only collected and published them. Original studies were done over decades and decades by countless other authors.
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I distrust IQ tests. I gave maths lessons to my child during lockdown. It was seriously difficult to get my head around algebra which I hadn't used since the 1970s. Presenting IQ tests to people whose school had a dirt floor might produce unreliable results. If there are IQ differences between the races, we still retain equal value as human beings. But don't blame W people if some of them can't become scientists.
It has nothing to do with education
@@AssfaultRode you should ask yourself why they hadn't developed an education systsem to begin with
@@yeoldeaesthetic3780 Okay, I did. I asked myself and myself told me that many of them didn't even have a written language or a word that meant 'future'
^ animals cant fathom future.
No one blames them for anything. One can't blame a lion for being a lion. The issue is that we're lying to ourselves and believing a fantasy that is becoming ruinously expensive to maintain.
"O.K. Jenny"...
Did they actually take iq tests in all those countries or did they extrapolate data for some of those countries?
Richard Lynn used non-verbal tests. They can be viewed on the internet.
@@speedysteve9121 For all the countries?
@@speedysteve9121Richard Lynn isn't a scientist.
IQ levelling down, happening right now.
Mr. Simon, we are entering based territory...
There are loads of studies out there & they have to be analysed, warts & all, to see if protocols & practices are valid. There are Tests out there that exclude biases which simply show patterns & sequences the subject has to identify. The UN has carried out IQ Studies & significant differences have been found.
Global Universal Basic Skills is probably the more accurate map
I see that any country with an average IQ of 74 or below are rated as morons on the Levine and Marks 1928 classification. That's East Timor down to Nepal, languishing in last place with an average of 51, with Africa collectively in between.
By finding fault in some research dose not disprove it. Unless you have other info to counter it.
I detect a potential circular logic in your assessment of the Guineans in Spain.
If a person has an IQ of fifty something then you would expect them to be in a special school, if in any school at all. Saying they were in such an institution does not necessarily say that they were outliers for their greater populalation. Perhaps any kid coming from that location would end up in such a school in the west.
I expect better Simon.
That's part of the problem. People want an easy answer which applies evenly across all sectors and nature simply doesn't worth that way. Necessity is the mother of invention. It shouldn't surprise us when people who face winter extremes learn to delay gratification and solve problems on a long-term scale.
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Good book is Making Sense of Race by Ed Dutton.
proud english citizen here.. IQ tested back in 1997 at 163.. was going to join mensa until found out one has to pay for the "privilege".. anyway,now down to two teeth and about the same amount of usable brain cells.. i can assure you it has taken some serious amount of effort to reduce my grey matter that much.. picture a slug snorting salt ... :-)
Despite your allegedly high IQ, you still did something very stupid. Guess you’re IQ must not be been that high….
High IQ and being a useful contributing member of society aren't mutually exclusive
IKR, I've met dozens of intelligent people who are lazy parasites with no desire to achieve anything.
Ahh, you’re a brave man, Simon. This is a dangerous topic. While I think the historical outcomes DO testify to national differences in this area, to suggest that certain African countries have a mean IQ that would place their entire population in the “mentally disabled” range is idiotic.
It's only dangerous because the truth hurts bunin matters of truth, not facts (commonly agreed upon opinions) we have to consider that we are as wrong as we are right
@@josefsterling5462 You’re right Josef, and we shouldn’t run away from the reality like frightened primitives. I do think the critique of the work described is valid, however .
forget studies, empirical data, correlations, and ratios - believe what your gut tells you about other groups of people from life experience
There was also scientific sexism. I learned about it when I did a feminist unit at university. Apparently they did things like giving false details about the size of the female brain and other things.
Well there is association between living in a high-HDI nationality and having a higher IQ, than a person who lives in a low-HDI nationality.
Simon, perhaps you know this but.... iq is mesured on the Bell curve . 50 is not only half of 100. Do correct me. Have a nice easter or purim
Its very easy for the hard of thinking in a class to stop all learning dead.
@David. Yes & especially when its the teacher.
Intelligence is imagination and persistence.
Einstein said that.
Me not fick. Me iq good. Cuz I is a rap master!😂
Tic as fook
How did Richard Lynn get his IQ scores for Equatorial Guinea
In some cases it is simply through misrepresentation of the data. One egregious example is the score for Equatorial Guinea in central Africa. Its national IQ is supposed to be 59, which is the lowest in the world. But that’s based on one sole study, and if you examine that study you find out a couple of interesting facts: firstly, that the study was actually done on a sample of children with various kinds of cognitive deficits, some of them organic like brain damage, and some not; the second thing you find out is that the population being sampled was not actually from Equatorial Guinea. So that’s as blatant as it gets.
Children from regions of the world where the average IQ is a lot lower than in Europe or East Asia would be categorized as having learning difficulties by European standards. You can't rule out the possibility that these samples were representative. Considering the IQ for chimpanzees is somewhere between 20 to 40 the chances of an average of 56 for Equatorial Guinea being accurate is extremely unlikely.
Where did you get that nonsense about chimpanzees from?
This video again, for the umpteenth time
It's making a point not made in videos on the same subject.
Compare subSahara with similarly isolated meso and South America. The latter had large cities, complex societies with stone buildings; mathematics and astronomy of Babylonian standards and ; writing while subSahara had none of these.
Umm the very concepts of mathematics, metallurgy and chemistry developed in sub-Saharan Africa.
We now have to simply employ anybody and everybody , no matter if the candidate is suitable for the job or not. Everybody will be able to be accepted for any faculty at any university and anyone will get a degree. Merit is now becoming a dirty word because everyone is a winner. Aptitude tests are racist now.
Less dangerous to visit you say why would it be dangerous?
Can’t because of Low eye-q now and low impulse control.
"Trust the science". "Trust the data". lol
The problem is that social research has become driven by agendas. Those agendas tend to be left wing ones. You really cannot take any research outcomes at face value any more I'm afraid.
At least we can say Lynn provided some balance against the heavily left weighted academia.
I think what you can do legitimately is look at the general sense of this kind of research and draw some conclusions.
I was recently looking at life expectancy figures in 200 countries and territories. When you consider that each country's system will be grappling with different factors (e.g. in some countries not all birth dates are recorded, in others not all deaths are recorded) you have to take the numbers with a pinch of salt.
However you quickly get a general sense of what is actually going on across the world when you notice Africa generally reports the lowest life expectancies, followed by parts of Asia and Latin America, with people in the "first world" being longest lived.
This can be good enough as long as all you want to do is have a broad understanding of the truth of an issue.
So it is with IQ