Man With 200 IQ Explains Hell & God
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you do works my friend, i might now believe in the word salad you host but i believe in you Curt
Hi Curt, I take it the voice that you heard that time was audible. Was it sarcastic in a playful sort of way, and was it a man's voice
Why not repent of God's gnosis of good and evil? Then iniquity won't be found in you so you won't be a worker of it and you won't be asked to depart into outer darkness. This is knowledge of the truth people perish for lack of, Otherwise ever learning.
You are NOT a mortal physical body, which is imperfect, but you are pure Consciousness (Soul) - that's why IF you found your TRUE self, which is true GOD both inside and outside of you, then you will be ONE with him!!!
Calling things "good" or "evil" is what cuts one off from THE ONE. The Unity of God (Love/agapē/Universal, unconditional love and benevolence) includes that which we refer to as "evil." To say "God can't hear you" is not only anti-Christ ("With men this is impossible; but with God ALL things are possible."-Matthew 19:26, Mark 10:27), but by definition, illogical.
Trying to figure out where consciousness comes from is like trying to take apart the radio to find the announcer.
Okay, so I'm not the only one? 😂
Stop looking to the radio to find the announcer-you’re an antenna that can tune in to God/Jesus…hint, you hear the voice internally in your heart.
Alan Watts’ analogy. Nice.
Cute. But incorrect.
The announcer is not inside the radio, but consciousness is an action of the conscious individual.
How about: trying to find where consciousness comes from is like thinking about how the voice coming from the radio works?
Thats funny I like that
C.S. Lewis said, " The doors of hell are locked from the inside!" That's where the quote comes from.
Everything is internal. Everything is Consciousness.
Dawkin's hell would be finding out he was wrong about God
Id pick hell. Demons will get bored of torturing us, then its party time. Mesnwhile, youll be unable to experience some emotions and will be kissing that yahweh butt for eternity. Id be begging to be deleted, what sad egomaniacal loser needs worshipped?
Finding out would just be the beginning. The door. “Abandon all hope ye who enter.”
I doubt Dawkins is able in anyway to conceive of the notion that he could be wrong about anything.
I suspect an IQ of 200 is no better than an IQ of 70 when it comes to understanding God but still very interesting.
It's like putting a 2000 hp engine into a Dodge Caravan, and expecting to win a race on a road course.
It takes a LOT higher intelligence to understand any concept of God.
He is lying there's no way this muppet has such a high IQ
We cannot fully define nor comprehend God. We can grasp but a little bit, and fuel the spark of divinity within us all, and grow in faith and understanding. IMHO
i suspect an atheist.
200 IQ
200 Pixel webcam
That was very funny. Lol
🤣🤣
Glad then I'm not losing my vision
If I had a dime for every pixel on his screen, I'd have a nickel.
And a 25W light bulb 😅
Eeveryone, no matter the IQ, has room to grow.
I measure intelligence in terms of HQ: Humility Quotient
@@Archeidos-ArcanaBeautiful! Seriously. I teach Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu and one of my students is a medical doctor and department head. He remarked how one of the attractions to this very physical and cerebral art was the humbleness you have to accept, no matter one’s position in life. A dignified man of social and professional status in very undignified grappling positions changes one’s brotherly humanity for the better, if he can adapt his thinking.
@@Archeidos-Arcana I agree with this...
Very underrated quality in terms of intelligence
nicely put, nonviolent and smooth
obviously i think someone with a 200 iq knows this more than 99.999999% of people including you
My Christian teaching said that hell is the absence of God. Pretty consistent with what the guest is saying. You choose, not God. You reject God, you are in hell.
👍
Millions of people in other cultures (for example, Japan) don’t believe in the Christian god and are doing just fine! Certainly better than most Christian god believers.
Fine? What are you talking about? One of the most unhappiest countries in the whole world, high cheating %, high suicide %, a debt equal to 300% of their gpd and birth rates declining, Huge amounts of hikkikomoris, wtf you talking about?
@@badco.3705 What I know of Japan is limited, but the anecdotes I hear is right on the mark with what you're saying. Japan as we knew it is dying, and it seems pretty hopeless.
He understands hell but not Jesus or sin. We are saved by the grace of God through faith in Jesus. Jesus was indeed perfect but a good man cannot enter heaven. What Jesus did on the cross was payment for our sins. We are all sinners. No man has lived a sinless life but Jesus. Through faith in His death burial and resurrection we are saved. Our good deeds are like filthy rags to God. By simply being good we are showing our works to be equal to what Jesus has done for us. When someone truly understands what Jesus did for them and accepts Him as Lord of Lords they will try to do everything possible to please Him but what they do is not what saves them. The work was done on the cross. It’s by grace we are saved through faith in Jesus.
When that Hello Fresh commercial came on, i thought that was him askin the guy a literal question about life and dinner.
😮😂
I think the idea that someone with a high IQ and great wisdom cannot also be the sufferer of deep emotional scars from a savage childhood is excessively idealistic. I met Chris several times in the past. The thing that surprised me when I first met him was how personable and downright normal he is. However, for all his impressiveness, he has one foible, and that is his tendency toward negative thinking. Once a raw nerve is touched, a rant fueled by negative emotion becomes a distinct possibility. That said, I would not be writing this if I didn't believe with utter conviction and clarity that this is something he does, NOT who he is. A more caring man I have not met.
Amen. We all suffer from the negativity waying down on us, and deal with it in different ways of varying healthiness. I give credit to Chris for dealing with the massive negativity directed toward him in healthier ways than most. If people only began to understand his struggles, I think they would give him much more credit too... God bless, bro.
Nice!
We never know what's going on in someone's mind either, despite the words they speak more often than not too.
I am willing to state publicly this guy is smarter than me so he is worth listening to in my view.
I find it difficult to believe we don't have *something* that created us in some manner.
I choose to call it God but I don't know what it is any more than the next person.
Hope we get to find out at our end/beginning?
Chris seems to me to be a down to earth guy and dosn't pretend he's so much better then everybody else. He's open about his greater intellectual capacity which is probably one reason many people dont like him. The standard is usually that smart people act humble and downplay their intelligence as an act of virtual signaling, when in reality behind close doors they still pride themself to be smarter then everybody else. We need more men like him who aren't afraid to step on peoples toes and tell the truth whatever the cost may be.
How did you come to meet Chris? Was it hard to keep up with him intellectually?
His black background (for this topic) and humorless expression made me giggle for it instantly revealed his propensity for melodrama. IQ isn't indicative of freedom from delusions. On the contrary it can justify its fabrications more intensely, just as very low IQs can.
The take on hell as being your own making totally makes sense.
We all have dark side. Its a powerful tool given to us to use for survival. The choice has to be made to use it wisely. That same darkness will be our own tailor made hell without God.
Who's worm dieth not
So why do religious people poison you with their scary hell? Don't talk about it snd people won't be able to put themselves there.
@@jason1440 Alice in Chains - Private hell. we all can fall into our own hell,locked from the inside and nobody on the outside can help us. we need to figure it out ourselves :p some dont,and commits suicide.
didnt lane staley commit suicide@@enednas801
"God has created man in his own image, and man has returned the favor." A perfect quote for this video.
More like entertaining.
You do realise the majority of deities over time have been elephant-people, cat-people, and any number of strange animal hybrids, or even pure monsters. Bit of a stretch to use that man created God theory to explain God.
So God created cretins, dwarves, cripples, hydrocephalics, etc, yet most monkeys look pretty good. Was God a monkey punishing Humans?
he speaks of atheists & buddha & the importance of acknowledging the ultimate reality, "evil is total denial & negation of ultimate reality & his own highest level of reality which is god" & that god is perfect & cannot absorb imperfection into itself & then he speaks of how clee irwin didnt acknowledge him & his ctmu theory ( he forced clee to cite him ), in the parts of clees theory which were "straight, pure ctmu", but "in different language", that clees theory is imperfect, "missing essential structure" & that when clee first introduced his theory he was like "what the hell?"
When its said God created man in his own image I don't believe they are talking about the physical body I believe they are talking about the consciousness.
What he is describing is called Narcissistic Personality Disorder, identifying with positive emotions while making others indentify with negative emotions. The Creator is empathy and respect, a sense of social and physical equality. Hell is self doubt, being trapped in animal flesh here on this Earth.
As he said, contradicting himself, he is just like other philosophers....just like all scientists who claim "100% accuracy"
This clip sure stirred up some emotions in the comment section! 😂
most people have a strong and adverse reaction to subjective BS, and this guy is full of it.
I only came here to get a laugh from all the religious fruit cakes and pretentious smart folk. I haven't been let down. My opinion on the subject is simple. Prove it.
But no one can and those who choose to follow the fairytales spend all their lives trying to convert the really smart people in the room. Have you ever noticed how atheists are content and not bothered with trying to force their beliefs unless provoked. However the gullible ones are so outspoken and bombastic about their unsubstantiated claims. The world would be a nicer and safer place if there was no religion at all .
People hating the truth
@@BigTimeRushFan2112 Advanced math and logic are subjective BS?
@@eddiepool2546 can be, yes. I can cobble together statistics to prove literally anything I wish. But hey, if you wanna admire this guy feel free man, different strokes for different folks, but a genius he just is not.
This is an example of why Inner Work and personal experience are key, concepts and words can only take one so far. One can explain being burnt all day, yet a few seconds of experiencing such will give true understanding beyond what words with no personal experience to relate can. We are all a work in progress, and have our own areas of focus and knowledge, it is still interesting to hear other self's attempt to explain the Self. 💚🙏
Thats your god "self" its very selfish and will end you in nothing but misery at the end. There is an actual God call on his name Jesus Christ and repent.
thats exactly correct, experience is the best teacher there is. We are a curious being however i was luckily blessed that if i see you touch the skillet, i understand that it is hot and will cause me harm.
@@swiftxrapid919 where did you get that he doesnt believe in God?
@@huntedbreed3602 lol, I hope most everyone is blessed with common sense, the issue is if one see's many people blindly believing what they are told, are they going to do the same, parroting, missing the point that IT is within you. Never taking the steps to personally experience for themselves. Thanks for the comment, let's me know the need for improvement in explanatory methods for dealing with the smart.
The universe is simply a very advanced soul sorting algorithm.
To say you figured out what God is & what he does is like a termite claiming it figured out man, his brain, his intention and his existence.
That's a great analogy, and is the basis of understanding that we humans with our extremely limited spectrum of intelligence (IQ 100, +/- 100 or so) can't possibly figure out how the universe, consciousness etc. was designed. An IQ of 200 could never accomplish such a feat, but maybe one of 2,000,000.
It's a result of your ego being told you're a genius for your whole life.
i don't believe you are right about this. but if i hear you correctly. it would be like humans creating termites and then becoming completely jealous if somehow the termites didn't understand and worship their human creator. is this about right? this sounds like nonsense to me.
he speaks of atheists & buddha & the importance of acknowledging the ultimate reality, "evil is total denial & negation of ultimate reality & his own highest level of reality which is god" & that god is perfect & cannot absorb imperfection into itself & then he speaks of how clee irwin didnt acknowledge him & his ctmu theory ( he forced clee to cite him ), in the parts of clees theory which were "straight, pure ctmu", but "in different language", that clees theory is imperfect, "missing essential structure" & that when clee first introduced his theory he was like "what the hell?"
termites and men might still be too closely related in scale - a man who thinks he figured out god is no wiser than a termite who figured out god
he seems like he has convinced himself he knows what he is talking about.
He has, because he has confidence in his perspective. Does that mean that he thinks he knows everything? No. He just doesn’t think he’s completely wrong and he KNOWS that he has a contribution to make. Now tell us what you mean, because implicit in your comment is that he doesn’t know what he is talking about.
@@adamsheafferhe doesn’t know squat
Thank you I came to look for this comment.
Issac Newton agreed with him, so does a professor of physics at MIT. He goes over a lot of people’s heads so you shouldn’t feel bad for not getting it.
@@oldhollywoodbriar my problem with him is that he does the equivalent of describing the chemical equation for chocolate, but has never tasted it. You can say chocolate in a million different languages, talk about its chemical components, write about it all day long, but if you’ve never actually tasted it, it doesn’t really amount to much.
How are you not over a million subscribers???? I’m from Toronto too homeboy. Love, your show man. You’re one of the smartest on TH-cam.
Ha. Thank you so much ! What part are you from?
@@TheoriesofEverythingdude you’re from Toronto!! I’m in Scarborough 🩵💃🏾🎉 sending you so much love and thank you🩵
@@dotsoflovelight8409 Nice!
You are an amazing interviewer. I’ve never seen an interview where I felt like someone didn’t ask the most important questions possible. I now KNOW questions not asked are unasked deliberately.
...holy shiiii.. this world makes me soooo confused ..the more information gets to me and the more "knowledge" I gain, the more I think I know nothing... and it makes me doubt everything...it makes me sad
Sit with that ❤
Knowledge is considered of the devil, that why is wise to guide your life by the Bible.
@@ericafelipep9906 had a hard time reading that but amen 🙏
True understanding comes out of real connection to your Creator. The God of the Bible is the true God, the Living God, and in Him you can find answers that make sense. 25 years ago, after seeking Jesus Christ by turning to Him, talking to Him, believing He existed, and being real with Him, I decided to ask Jesus to be my Lord. A few days after I made this request He revealed Himself to me, and started to teach me about reality. This person talking doesn't know Jesus, because he is not sharing the things that Jesus shared with me. I did not physically see Jesus, but I was filled with His Holy Spirit greatly, and experienced miracles, and the Holy Spirit started teaching me out of the Bible - putting different verses together for me that I never could have connected on my own.
There is a spiritual realm that sits behind what we see physically, and interacts with the world directly. The devil is a real being, with real power, and works to affect reality as well. While God is Love, the devil is pure hatred, and views humanity with contempt. The devil thrives in fear, confusion and suffering, and strives to bring this about everywhere. Jesus Christ defeated the devil, and was the only human to ever do so. This is because He came as God in the flesh, to offer Himself as a perfect sacrifice to cover OUR sin. He died for us - out of love for us. He chose this.
When you turn to Jesus Christ with all of your heart, and choose His Lordship over your life, He can undo the confusion we all experience, and provide truth. He is, in fact, the only true source of truth for humanity, because truth goes far beyond 2 +2 = 4, and all the mechanics of this physical realm. Truth goes much deeper, into WHY you exist, the PURPOSE for your life here on the planet, and the ETERNAL PURPOSE that Jesus has for you. I understand why I was created. I understand what will happen (roughly) once I am gone from my physical body permanently. I have some small conception of what eternity holds for me, although I honestly believe that in our mortal form we cannot understand many aspects of this, as it is simply beyond us in this small, closed-in existence here. I have experienced things in the spirit that I cannot accurately describe with language - glimpses of so much more.
But none of this is possible without Jesus Christ. HE is the Bridge between Man and God. His sacrifice of Himself on the Cross opens the way to God. God is as the Bible represents Him - Father, Son and Holy Spirit. Three Persons - One God. This is another thing that I do not believe we can properly comprehend in our mortal form, even though I know it to be true. So if you want answers - real answers - there's only One to turn to.
Hebrews 11:6 "But without faith it is impossible to please Him: for he that comes to God must believe that He is, and that He is a rewarder of them that diligently seek Him."
I can testify that this verse is completely true. I hope that you will find out for yourself.
We know very, very few things, and suspect most things.
Can he please stop sending people to hell as if he is god himself?
He makes a lot of assertions about what you have to do to win back God's attention without explaining how he knows any of this.
He may be very smart, but he's not all knowing.
People who proclaim to know what god would do to you in the afterlife are incredibly arrogant.
Eternal unending punishment for being incorrect about the nature of reality?
His god is incredibly vengefull.
Honestly, this guy just sounds like a typical religious fundamentalist with a big vocabulary.
Cope. Seethe. Then read the CTMU and try again.
He just reads a lot of books. The answers are all out there, not hard to find or figure out. You don’t have to be Isaac Newton to understand him, but it helps.
@ Jesus answered them, “Is it not written in your law, ‘I said, “You are gods” ’? John 10:34
@ “People who are atheist have been deformed. They went to school and were told lies by people in authority.” Dr Wolfgang Smith prof of physics MIT. “I read the book of genesis as though it were literally true” Joscha Bach (World’s Top AI Scientist). “People are atheists because they’re dummies,” Chris Langdon world’s smartest human. Maybe stop listening to the liars and the dummies and these topics won’t go over your head. Atheism is the fairy tale.
@@goldwhitedragon There's nothing in the CTMU that explains God's demands of us. It's more likely just the opinion of a former bouncer larping as the smartest man on earth. Take comfort in your delusion of eternal punishment for anyone who disagrees with you.
Despite my admiration for brilliant people, I'm rather taken aback and dismissive of anyone claiming to know what gawd wants or thinks forgives or judges...
I do like the tiny bit i understand about the ctmu
I trully do belive humanities biggest sin is anthropocentrism. Every holy book, every vision, every statement is MAN made, therefore, in the best of cases, we are misguiding each other into oblivion. If you meditate and don´t wrong yourself or others, i belive you will find the answers in yourself , not these geniuses or books made 2 thousand years ago.
@@DecimeCuba
Too true and fair enough...
If only our nature was to cooperate vs compete...
It might be possible if the excesses of elite wealth were directed to correcting the problems it has caused
Sounds like you exclude the possibility of direct interaction and communication with god. If you don’t, do you think god doesn’t communicate it’s nature? If god communicates its nature, is it arrogant to tell people what it said? The only question left if you accept that god communicates is whether they actually communicate with the prophet speaking.
@@fancycrafts7774 why would gawd choose to communicate with one person over any others? I'd love for gawd to communicate with me so I endeavor to be open and receptive but I can't claim any knowledge given to me directly. That's where your thoughtful statement fails to compel me .
So, again, I don't trust those who claim to know what gawd wants and I consider it a blasphemy
@@DecimeCuba that's a wonderful ethos and I share it.
The word "sin" has been morphed into meaning crime against gawd but in the original language of the texts it means a mistake or error or mis step
Honestly the thing about Chris that bugs me so much is his ego. He has such a desire to be credited and be praised for his intelligence. I have arrived at many pieces present in his CTMU independently, and I've seen many many others including Klee Irwin that seem to have also come to some of the same understandings. If he is really concerned with being as Christ-like as possible, he shouldn't matter who is sharing ideas that will help humanity progress and heal.
I love how he explains a lot of this stuff and I think he's right about a lot, but the arrogance and the inability to veil his swollen ego just kind of make it hard to like him.
Chris is a narcissist; not to the high degree of Trump, but likely middle of the road narcissist.
I cut him some slack. Very intelligent people are used by society. Many times, they are identified early in life and tasked heavily. They rarely get to enjoy a normal life or childhood.
We are have to control our egos. We all are working process ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Tolerance is part of dominating our Ego
He rubs me the wrong way a bit too in this regard. It's a common pitfall for extremely high intellect people.
Bro learned Buddhism from the back of a Lucky Charms box.
Lmaoo
Nothing he said was incorrect
Technically he embellished in order to suit his own needs and narrative IMO.
Sure, Jesus might have been a common man but Buddha CHOSE to abandon luxury and privilege. He's saying that just because Buddha was born into a wealthy family means he's not a real G basically?
That seems wildly off since the whole point of Buddha is that he chose to abandon all desire for material or otherwise things.@@GM-oq5hq
These people taught very different ideas that are not really related to each other. One taught about the inner self and the other about your relation to other human beings.
and you are a jew.
His hell interpretation is consistent with the the Biblical concept of annihilation
Where is that mentioned in the Bible as a "concept" of man's fate after death ?
Yup, annihilationism or universal salvation based on the texts of original Greek.
It's self chosen and choices can always be changed
Too much anger, not enough love IMHO.
Exactly! More love!
Yeah. His hubris looks fatal.
Did you watch the whole thing? The story with him and Dawkins along with the other evil, atheists eugenicists shreds light on why he can't stand him. If you can believe him a Dawkins was part of trying to ruin his reputation. Oh and he's not a Bible believing Christian perse so he doesn't necessarily have the same rationale.
These people believe they are gods of men and secretly plot to control society within their societies. They believe an IQ gives them the authority. To be fair I didn't learn this from him but he does spill the beans, so you speak. Why don't they like him or respect him? Because he isn't pushing a Godless narrative. That's why. Well, that's one reason why.
@@northernstar2064 over your head
Not anger just truth... which can hurt.
I'm in the Spinoza camp re god. I can see the parallels with how the faithful understand god but I understand it a little differently. The fact that its often so translatable is always heartening to me, i can't discuss this stuff with my athiest friends in quite the same way
There's no hell literally. Is figurative. Meaning destruction. Hades (Hell) was the dump outside of Jerusalem where they burned trash, ect.
There is no such thing as “human perfection “.
Facts 💯
as far as you know? Or are you stating that as truth? 0 chance of there being a perfect human? I will state that there’s 0 chance of your statement being true. Something that you or I could not define or prove doesn’t make it factual.
Jesus Christ of Nazareth and God would disagree with you but go ahead you know more than God clearly.
Halle Berry?
Jesus is a perfect human so what do you mean
You would need to know his entire life story abd experiences and how his parents brought him up and those moments in life that shaped his character....all these things come into play when someone gives a definition of their God
Beautifully put :)
God is objective. But yes, many people have different opinions about Him. That doesn’t change what and who he is. It’s simply your personal subjective opinion of him but that says loads about you and nothing about him.
Well we all got our definition of God somewhere, most of us growing up in religion class or church....and how can we be so sure that is the objective truth of what God, what is the objective definition of God, I mean you can get very close and have majority of people agree with the definition but how can we be so sure it's objective
@@TheSouthernorycle The One is objective, and the highest philosophical term acording to Proclus (Elements of Theology) and this is where Christianity as a new force of Empire (Rome) moved to stamp out Platonism & Philosophy in favor of cherry-picking (via: Psudo-Dionysius) and dogma.
The One denotes parts
Parts denote unity
Unity denotes wholeness.
@@mazolab Non binary
Do you believe in spirit boxes or the study of phenomenon regarding spiritual control over radio frequency etc. If so then do you believe you could communicate with the same soul in hell over time intervals of your choosing indefinitely? If so then can the deterioration of one’s own hell/reality still be accounted for?
Love this interview!
Are you sure its not 200 ego rather than IQ? One commonality of people with an oversized ego or superiority complex is that they have little need or regard for evidence based approaches. You ask them why they the evidence does not line up with their beliefs and they always deflect or attack. Their identiy is tightly wound to being an independent source of knowledge, suggesting they should be restrained by evidence like the rest of us is a great insult to them. Nothing against this guy in particular, I've just come across plenty of oversized egos and there are commonalities, that's all.
Intellects can easily become narcissistic, especially when they are well aware of being more intelligent than the majority of the population. Good ones keep themselves humble by always looking up to people who are smarter than themselves. It’s normal for us, who are not as intelligent, to feel less while listening to them because it can seem intimidating. However, this is our perception rather than reality.
that's the problem with unproveable theories, it ends up just being a bunch of intellectuals having a dick measuring contest and then nobody wins
What are arguments from first principles.
Perhaps the inability to not think outside an empiricist mindset is a marker of a unintelligent / low confidence / lazy thinker.
It goes both ways friend.
Have you ever read the Structure of Scientific Revolutions by Thomas Kuhn?
Agreed brother .. He's a pefect example that high IQ means little to nothing to me as he droans on & on about his so called understanding of God & religion .. As a matter of fact, he is more prone to continue to bring up what he believes is an all encompassing theory of everything, a.k.a. God with his own self-righteous theory , CTMU .. He also loves to hide behind the true questions @ hand with a lot of buzzwords to defend his foundation of CTMU .. I think he has some serious issues that come to light just listening to him & his God Complex .. No thanks, I don't mid a little fringe in my science , but puh-lease gimme a break and lastly, his understanding of Buddha & Buddhism is so lacking that it doesn't even merit a response from this seeker of truth .
Chris, please ignore any nasty comments. Some people don't understand people.
Yeah! Some people are very apatic and ignorant. They doesn't care about what is around us 😢
This brilliant gentleman has the most soulful, haunting eyes...stopped my scrolling INSTANTLY. I took it as a sign and my whole world view has changed along with a level of clarity I have not experienced until now. With gratitude, I am humbled.
What!!!!! lol please tell me you’re joking 🙃.
I'm so dead💀💀 "his haunting eyes" like bre did u jus buss??😭😭😭
Who is this guy? What makes him an authority on who and what God is?
"God" defined himself - in The Bible no less - I AM
So then all who can say those words , "I am," are gods also!!! Thanks!!!
@@eeayquetting5963yes, in fact that is true. God is the opposite of chaos. We are part of it. Just like a certain product is part of its manufacturing plant.
@@Braun09tv that's awesome, I love seeing it that way rather than thinking that us and God are separate... How can anything be separate from the all?
Thank you so much!!!
Richie Dawkins? OK, can't verify his IQ, but he definitely zoomed in 200%. Also, IQ tests are mostly based on pattern recognition, not some divine intuition.
Pattern recognition and how long you can remember them. I was told i had an IQ of 143 when i was 6 by matching puzzle blocks to pictures against a clock. I always wondered how inaccurate that random test was lol
@@notallowedtobehonest2539 To my knowledge, there is only one sanctioned IQ test. Something called the g factor plays a significant part.
yeah no kidding. Richie? lol where did that come from? is this man religious???
@@notallowedtobehonest2539 My pattern recognition is amazing, so I always had 130-40 or so on those IQ tests. Real IQ tests are about a lot more than that, and also how quickly you can do them applies. Very doubtful you would come anywhere close to that on a real IQ test.
@@funtimes8296 yah but why get my iq reappraised then
The name of his theory sounds a lot like "the cat's meow". Was he trying to be clever when he came up with his acronym?
I would love for this channel to sit and go through an actual TOE, while stopping to explain each part. Either just Curt on his own wrestling with his interpretation of the TOE or with the author as a guest to explain themselves.
Individuals like Sam Harris and Richard Dawkins have done untold amount of damage.
You are 100% correct. Destroyed the minds of an entire generation.
Why Sam Harris?
😅😂😂. Good for them!
@@Forzemotorzport4 Because Harris offers extremely half-baked criticisms of religion, and it's clear that he hasn't spent any time genuinely weighing the anti-thesis. He's built a career upon 'religion bad' -- and altogether, his thought lacks in the intellectual rigor and even-mindedness to consider the nuance. Even if religion was complete nonsense down to its very core; to think that you can just throw it out altogether requires a profound level of hubris.
@@Archeidos-Arcana Sam has become a religious zealot in his pursuit to discredit religion.
Is his IQ measured in the metric or imperial system ?
Mico units
His IQ has been verified, to be fair and honest. If you want to learn more you can go to the CTMU wiki. That's where you'll find the 50+ page CTMU literature he published also. One reason he doesn't like a lot of these guys is because they were part of trying to discredit him as soon as they discovered that he had high regard for philosophy and believed in a God.
Oh and the other reason is obvious; he wasn't part of their little "circle jerk" which is so common among these societies.
God system.
@@WtfYouMeanDude No it has no units it's a quotient of two numbers
of age multiplied by 100 !
@@mazolab oh, well if you dad said. then we know. thank you.
The idea of hell locked from the inside is "the gates of hell are locked from the inside" and it comes from Sartre's plat No Exit.
It's true what he says, total ego death is terrifying on a profound level.
It can be anyway.
❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤ Exactly, we must CONTROL OUR EGOS. Very smart
This explains why they stopped taking those tests so seriously.
Exactly. How this guy got famous is a fluke.
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IQ tests are still taken seriously.
You may just be uneducated
@@_Royalfool_ @mygirldarby The point is there are plenty of other people with reported IQs equal or higher that have actually done something. This guy just got randomly famous and then Malcolm Gladwell made him more famous.
this is so crazy, i got recommended a clip of this last night that was posted like 9 months ago and listened to the podcast up to the Q&A at work today and it just so happens you upload another clip of it? “When the ears of the student are ready to hear, then cometh the lips to fill them with wisdom."- The Kybalion, reigns true
Loving God isn't complicated. One doesn't need a 200 IQ. Look around you and see Gods creation. Take a walk in the woods. Stop and be silent and the God of all creation and of you will speak to you. Love Him back by speaking back to Him and thanking Him for all that is. You will feel His love for you and a peace will come upon you.
KooKoo
yes and everything is killed in the forest, everything is chasing food and trying to survive, larvae and worms start to go decaying corpses, bacteria and smell start to cause a stench, nice view of the forest yes :D
@@Natacenichodidel kookoo
Dude, Your channel is amazing
Appreciate that!
Is CTMU supposed to be something of a technical description of reality and God?
yes
I would like him to break this down more technically and give example of how this would occur to someone in real life. from what i understand life is highly destined anyway, you come here to live a life that was highly predestined. so if you cut ties with god you probably knew you were gonna do that in the spirit realm before birth anyway i would assume. i would love for this to be explained in detail one day by him, as i think most researchers and spiritualists are still piecing together the mechanics of reality.
I think it's because he's trying to get there from the inside-out using the rules we're restricted to here. He's getting pretty damn close! Though I believe he's wrong about a lot of it, oblivion ect.. I feel like he's closer to the target than any other theory I've seen. His theory has God & multiple levels of ascension before unification, that alone puts him ahead of the rest. Donald Hoffman is getting there too.
there’s a ctm-university you can join for free and engage with chris
awesome i will check it out@@uncreative4
It’s funny because it sounds like he’s saying that ‘anyone out of tune with reality is cutting themselves off from God and by definition ‘Evil,’’ which is the essentially the same conclusion I came to about any and all narcissists. As someone who grew up in Texas, I can confidently say I’ve had countless case studies to intuitively arrive at this conclusion 😂😂😂🤌🤌🤌 this man deserves a bigger voice in culture, so thank you so much for giving him a platform to present his ideas 🙏😇
Well, know that 200 IQ man, that he performs a very powerful magic called whispering? Beware of false prophets who try to psychoanalyze god. Let me go against his words. Your consciousness is both creator and observer, and this world is a school through suffering, pain and fear. You are the protagonist, each of us is one, each ... Your adventure will lead you along spectacular paths lined with amazing stories. This world is a simulation, a course, where you have to learn to play an instrument, which creates stories. Gods love stories. And we, as images of God, love them too, that is why we have poetry and humor and the art of painting and music. There's no hell, you'll just have to stay after school.
200 of IQ is not incompatible with telling bullshit. :)
It seems to me this guy is expressing the most deadly sin of all. PRIDE. ( that he acts as a judge towards others)
Agreed, though I think the word in his case should be "hubris".
how you measure your context is your judgement
@@davidgough3512 And how you replied to me is yours. Maybe we are all sinners.
@@haydndavies2248 how one measures is according to one's judgement.. another way to put it is that consciously or not, our reality is en-formed & defined by our filters, and we are thereby affected by these filters: "as ye measure so shall ye be measured".. which i believe means we answer to the contexts-parameters we identify within. Our very existence as an organism is derived from the totality of universe - the ecosystem/earth&moon/sun/star-systems/ history of matter & energy; such that the loss of a limb or even some internal organs would be less deadly than losing our "external organs", like our societal networks (farmers, shippers, builders, health care workers etc) living soils, living forests, living oceanic plankton (providing oxygen), the planet Jupiter( diverting asteroids by virtue of it's orbital position and gravity) or the sun (for obvious reasons).. so it is a mistake when we identify ourselves as either physically or spiritually less than, or other than, the totality of being: our higher self.. without which we are prone to objectify, ignore, alienate, disrespect, or abuse whatever we've disavowed as part of our greater being, and that is the sin that condemns us: our self drawn limits on our true identity and the identity of others, our blinding stance of false smallness. Langan is saying that if our measurings fall short of our higher self - our kinship with God - it is these false measurings that throw us out into darkness.. or, by the same virtue, our more accurate measurings that we benefit from as ablessing. How we describe and divide our selves and our world is the set of contextualization/identification that determines our seeming fate.
2 thessalonians describes the falling away where those that did not obey the word of God are given powerful delusions. Satan is now creating false signs and wonders through out the world today ,look at all the AI stuff and ufo disclosure. I believe the rapture is near and satan is about to reveal himself to the left behind.
*To add to my comment just previous:* And for those not aware, it goes without saying that Christopher is the perfect name for Chris in light of its origins. Here is a partial glimpse into some of the root meanings of Chris’s name:
”The name Christopher originates from the Greek words “Christos” (Χριστός), meaning “anointed” or “Christ,” and “phero” (φέρω), meaning “to bear” or “to carry.” Combined, they form “Christophoros,” which translates to “Christ-bearer” or “one who carries Christ.” The name Christopher has deep roots in Christian tradition and is imbued with symbolic and historical significance, reflecting a spiritual bearing and a sense of purpose.”
I actually find it very interesting as well, his name is as we know Christopher Michael Langan, both the root meanings of the name Chris and Michael align not only with his personality but what he has produced, further than this though, my own name is Michael N L (I won’t give the names there, and I mention L there because of the connection to Langan, no the only similarity I’m aware of in our names is number of syllables there and the same beginning letter) I also among other personality similarities happen to be a very abstract thinker who’s work is along the same lines as Chris’s but more likened to the direction of my name, something I never planned for having only researched the root meanings of my name later last year. I am more on the divergent side of things compared to Chris as well.
All this considered though, I have zero desire to meet Chris at this stage of my life but it’s not outside the realms of possibility, I would only want it to happen at a time that intersected with maximal wisdom.
Anyhow, peace and love to everyone aye, sincerely.
Yet "Curt" hosts roaming 4 hour long podcasts eloquently engaging with his guests in deep thoughtful questioning.... names have no meaning!
"...remembering that you have nothing planned for dinner..." haha
That goes against the New Testament where one of the contemned on the cross asked to be with God and was accepted.
If you are talking about the Christian God.
No this guy just foolishly thinks that time matters. Time doesn't even flow in one direction outside the physical world.
He went to Paradise, which was in the center of the earth.
@@ScriptureClips What’s your source for that?
@jm329 Jesus said, "Today you will be with me in paradise" Paradise, as described in the story of the rich man, was in the center of the earth. Paradise in Abraham's boosom, was where the righteous went that had yet to accept Jesus. It was across from hades separated by a gulf but both located undergound. It was also where Jesus went directly after death before his ascension to preach to the captives and lead them out. Hades or the pit is also where Jonah found himself when he was swallowed by the fish.
Hell is severing your umbilical cord with God. In my opinion.
Yes
I have some people suffering from narcissism and it seems they just cant avoid following the dark path of evil every time they get put to the test of using empathy and insight they always chooses their own egoistic ways and tries to bend the reality and manipulate and walk all over the good people in my family. Freud calls the egoistic,dark sides of an individual for "the shadow" and quote "the shadow has roots reaching all the way down to hell" :O It sure can look like it the way they act.Personally I have been an ateist but after a magic mushroom trip I got my third eye/pineal gland activated and was introduced to a feeling I can inly describe as God conciousness that was pure love and bliss.I belive that pineal gland is a key to getting in touch with ur higher self wich is another link to getting in touch with this emmensly powerful feeling of love and healing,also strong intuition,knowledge to help u on ur way in life.choosing good over bad. people with narcissism seem to only worship themselves.not a higher power.
@@enednas801everyone has a shadow side. It’s placed there for protection and survival. But it’s all about control. One has to control it. Human beings are capable of horrific acts. It’s fact. Some chose darkness which leads to their demise and ultimate hell. While others chose the light. Which means they choose to have Gods presence with them. Free will.
Yes and that is done through ones actions. Cause people can say whatever but their actions and choices define who they truly are.
Hey Curt. Can you ask Chris to explain CTMU for 7-12 yo kids and send it to After Skool to illustrate it like he did the Sacred Geometry lecture of Randall Carlson? I do believe that this will interest many people. I had never heard of him or his theories until last year, and stumble upon him through your podcast. I can’t judge his personal opinions, but I believe there are more avid science following people whom never heard of him than he reckons. Please make it happen.
@CTMUist already does something like that
If you were actually read his books. And you read his charts and mathematical diagrams, this podcast is only a drop in the ocean.
Let kids learn to think critically first.
@@skybellau This is a good way to train yourself in critical thinking, looking over theories which utilise logic and reasoning.
I bet this guy was decently tolerable, and had a few friends before he took an IQ test.
He thinks that those who just lack belief - have hate for gods. It’s actually stupid- IQ points notwithstanding.
My high IQ doomed me in society because I`m "weird." I probably have some form of autism. I have trouble communicating verbally and have laser focus bordering on obsession with hobbies like radio receivers, off-grid solar, astronomy, various science subjects, gardening, playing musical instruments, metal detecting, wildlife photography, ancient (and coming) catastrophes, writing, preparedness, etc etc.
Check his childhood
lol!
This guy can not prove his IQ test. If you Google search him you will find out he if full of shite and he is arrogant as hell (pun intended).
Great talk !
This idea that God no longer hears those who lose faith is super depressing.
But it does not make sense. How can something that can only exist through his existence not be heard by him? I mean we're a part of him if everything consists of god?! So god can not ignore himself, right?
@@chrome6570 we here, have the free will and being not perfect and severance from recognizing our GoD make us invisible
I’d like to be a fly on the wall when he meets Source…
If God is perfect then God is unconditionally forgiving.
Perhaps forgiveness requires some level of participation from both involved parties?
The hell he describes sounds just fine…like the death we all can expect…just like before we are born.
One of the best guests and what a privilege to listen. Illuminating.
How do these people speak with such authority with zero evidence? I mean, not one shred of evidence and this guy rambles on about ancient myths. So weird.
What rules did you use to define evidence?
Sounds like someone has never heard of the measurement problem 😊
How is it that you can say such things without reading into his theory? Let me turn your logic around on you (I don’t like to be mean, but sorry, even if Chris is wrong in the end, it’s just disrespectful to blow him off). How do *you* speak with such confidence on an entire discipline with *zero* studying? I mean, not one refutation to any of the tenets of Chris’ CTMU in your comment, and you ramble on about a tangent on the guy’s beliefs.
Ego. I think its silly, 200 IQ people don't talk about god or gods or myths as if they are real....this guy rambled on and on and on about literally conjecture and myth as if he knew it as a fact. What a silly topic for a video...
@@BigTimeRushFan2112 are you insinuating that his IQ wasn’t verified by several psychologists throughout his life? Do you yourself speak from a position to know what someone in the 99.999 percentile can and cannot say?? if that’s what you think, you oughta read Leibniz’s monadology. I have an exceptionally high IQ, and I’m here to tell you that I don’t give two fucks about Chris’ IQ. He’s largely picked up where Leibniz left off in many respects.
“When you die… god can’t hear you anymore”😂I think you added an extra zero.
This was interesting. I don't believe I had ever heard of chris langan prior to watching this video, and I had the same idea of what hell is and the experience of it from my first ayahuasca experience. Eerily similar actually.
Well this just proves that high iq doesn't save you from cognitive bias and narcissism
and doesnt save you from religion either..
@@jekonimus chris isn't religious. he says that jesus is the perfect example of a human being, not the son of god. this is because his model can be interpreted to recognize any and all religions as valid as long as they are centered around god.
He is like a very smart uncle who has a story for everything but at some point you start to suspect that at least some of them are creation of his own mind
In pondering the topic myself the question occurred to me; “what if I believe in nothing in this life?” And just as quickly came the answer “then you’ll have nothing in the next one.”
I think listening without prejudice to NDEs makes for good research.
So none of what he is saying is in the bible, where does he think he is getting this information from?
This man seems unstable.
I'm pretty sure those are not his thoughts.
Jesus said almost the same thing, but that book was thrown out, or never admitted into the official Bible.
I think it's in the gospel of Thomas from the Egyptian, early version, of the scripture, and it goes something to the effect of:
- Don't try to find me in buildings of wood or stone.
- Lift a rock and you'll find me; look behind the tree and I'll be there.
I don't want to paraphrase too much.
I'm sure you will find it very easy.
Essentially, what it means is that wherever you go, he's there - he is you = you are him.
I have an easier time trusting someone who's looking for the truth than someone who's claimed to have found it.
Just my worthless two cents.
Absolutely. Those who Know don't speak, those who speak don't Know.
two cents are never worthless friend-o
thanks for the two cents, ill take it
Good work Curt 🌀
Nobody comes to the truth without Sadhana. Period! Nobody!
"richy" doesn't run around telling people how much he hates God. He simply doesn't believe that there is evidence for the existence of a God.
Apathy is not hate, and the relation of each to love is key.
He fails to understand that his attitude of superiority carries the burden of caring about the rest of us. He clearly doesn't feel anything for anyone of lesser IQ. His demeanor destroys his message.
He fails to recognize that god is the only thing that existsn and all of reality is god entertaining and exploring itself. So claiming "this person will go to haile" is to entirely fail to know the nature of reality, god, awareness, consciousness
@@yourlogicalnightmare1014chaos also exists and is not part of any kind of god.
@yourlogicalnightmare1014 what is hell is Gods filtration method? The universe filtering out entrapy?
@@Braun09tv
Chaos is within time and space.
Nothing is or can be apart from god.
@@yourlogicalnightmare1014 chaos is the opposit of order, no matter what time and space is. It is a scale.
When someone says "God can't," I'm out.
there is ZERO correlation between IQ and knowledge of Heaven and Hell
I wonder if my IQ is beyond 200, because what in the fook did I just listen to?
It just proves that IQ does not measure anything meaningful.
It measures your ability to solve problems in a confined amount of time. It’s very specific in what it measures. His IQ being very high means that he has lots of mental horsepower so to speak. I’ve read his material and it’s very sound from a logical perspective.
@@nathanielgates2863 A lot of mental horsepower should allow someone especially in our time to understand how world works. If hes IQ is that high then he just decided to apply that to the superstitions he had.
A useful theory will be able to make correct predictions. His theories make no testable predictions thus not a useful use of his presumed high IQ.
@@electrodacus he’s not “applying superstitions.” Have you read any of his material? The point of his CTMU is not to make predictions as it is a MODEL. Predictions aren’t the end all be all. Science has unfortunately become a religion.
@@nathanielgates2863 Science has nothing to do with religion. There are of course "scientists" that try to mix religion and science but science is as far separated from religion as it can be.
What good is a model unable to make predictions ? CTMU is supposed to be a model of the universe and probably a good example of why you think Science has become a religion. He likely was to lazy to learn physics (not his fault as there is no free will) so he applied his intellect to "model" with makes no testable predictions.
I have not looked at the details of his CTMU but I have no incentive to do so after watching this video.
He seems more interested in philosophy so I can guess that CTMU is philosophy not Science.
The entirety of the universe being god is something I've thought of as a child, but the idea was brought on by hinduism. He has some interesting (non-dualistic?) ideas, but . . .
Just watch one of the NDE (near death experience) YT channels. After hearing several of those videos there are quite a few similarities to many religions description of the after life. Those channels have filled in a lot of the missing gaps of perspective for me.
IMO no prescribed religion, gets it all right or wrong. (Some more than others of course, probably a few exceptions as well lol)
hey you figured it out, been preaching this for years. tell your friends will ya..... the closest way to get answers is through NDE findings. case closed. this guy knows nothing....
I oftej think about how anaesthesia just turns you off, likelg to me that, thats more what to look forward to when the lights go out
Woah, that was the harshest burn ever on anyone. Poor Richie.
He knows what God thinks
Hahaha, right on!
Well, under his CTMU -- yes literally everyone on some level knows what God thinks; because we are God self-reflecting upon himself.
@@Archeidos-Arcana
I understand, but those are not his thoughts.
Jesus said almost the same thing, but that book was thrown out, or never admitted into the official Bible.
I think it's the gospel of Thomas from the Egyptian, early version, of the scripture, and it goes something to the effect of:
- Don't try to find me in buildings of wood or stone.
- Lift a rock and you'll find me; look behind the tree and I'll be there.
I don't want to paraphrase too much.
I'm sure you will find it very easy.
Essentially, what Jesus is saying that wherever you go, he's there - he is you = you are him.
@@Archeidos-Arcana Why accept it as true in the first place?
@@jamielowell4237 I don't accept anything as true -- I reject binary logic overall. I accept CTMU as a valid perspective no different than any other contextualization of lived experience.
Even most of "modern science" is interpreted upon equally unfounded ontological and metaphysical assumptions which institutional science seems to delude themselves into believing they don't hold, or is somehow irrelevant. CTMU is just another way to understand the same things in a different way.
For someone who has a 200 iq he sure made a lot of claims without evidence!
You should read CTMU and then speak on this subject.
@@ether23-23 hey man I'm just pointing out the obvious, anyone can make claims, this guy made tons of em I don't need too read a book too react too a video.
Guy in video escaped Mental hospital. Utterly damaged.
What's CTMU, overview of disorders? Start with Shizo-affective and down the list until you find the match.
@@autopilot3176 nice bait pal
There's plenty of people who do all the right things but still feel miserable. Temperament matters.
Does Chris have a book about his theory?
Yes, CTMU (Cognitive Theoretic Model of the Universe). It can be downloaded as free PDF
How did Kurt not laugh at that first comment lmao id of died
because curt is a humble and curious person with a truly open mind… meaning he’s not someone who falls into the trap of thinking an open mind is a pre-ascribed set of beliefs
@@uncreative4my original comment was wrong I meant the bit when he mentions Dawkins for the first time. It proper tickled me 😂
What Mr Langan says about God's perfection and the stratified identity reminds me as a Muslim of what the definition of a human self is : 3 selves ( the anima bounded to selfishness, the judgmental self or consciousness and the appeased self, surrendered to God and serene ) all three culminating in the human soul, a breath from the divine Soul.
Great and simple explanation of denial of highest self identity and atheism and eventual death without a soul, love this guy.
Why all the hate, the guy is talking about his relationship with God, it may not work for everyone. Everyone has their own approach. Its just his view, many roads lead to Rome
I am so glad I watched this long enough to hear him talk about Jesus...
Which is when exactly
❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤ it was not a coincidence
Wow ... this thought is exactly what I came to realize a couple of years ago... his explanation starting at 5:10 🥰👹
ChatGPT says this about the CTMU:
"The CTMU, or Cognitive-Theoretic Model of the Universe, is a theory proposed by American physicist and philosopher Christopher Langan. It aims to provide a comprehensive framework for understanding reality, integrating elements of metaphysics, epistemology, and cognitive science.
The CTMU proposes that reality consists of a self-processing, self-referential system that Langan calls the "Universe." It suggests that reality is fundamentally computational and that information is at the core of existence. The theory posits that the Universe is a self-contained, self-creating system that evolves through a process of self-simulation.
Langan's CTMU has been the subject of debate and criticism within the scientific and philosophical communities due to its ambitious claims and complex nature. While some see it as a groundbreaking attempt to unify various disciplines under a single theoretical framework, others criticize it for its speculative nature and lack of empirical evidence."
The intelligence of a person does not dictate whether what they say is true.
Correct. In this case, it's the strength of the logic behind what he says. I bet you haven't looked into it.
@@eddiepool2546 You don't know anything about me and yet make assumptions. It's ironically fitting for the entire situation. I remain unconvinced without evidence.
@@detaildevil6544 The evidence is based on logic. Have you found a flaw in this logic or have you looked into it?
@@eddiepool2546 There is no proof for a soul, heaven or hell. So, yes, his arguments are flawed by relying on these terms. These concepts cannot be measured nor demonstrated and thus do not meet the requirements for evidence.
@@detaildevil6544 The proof and demonstration is logical in nature. Many assume that this is impossible. But the CTMU shows why this is not the case. All one need do is study the theory to see why.
Hell is by far the most harrowing implication of the CTMU. Respect for including the dialogue regardless, Curt. The truth is important.
As for your choice of guys to ask him about, as a general rule of thumb, Langan sees atheists/materialists as doing tremendous damage to teleology in general and human utility in particular. Asking him about them is akin to asking a pacifist what he thinks about famous generals; he can say they're adept at what they do, but going any further than that or to laud them outright would be dishonest. (The Klee Irwin question was almost hilariously unfortunate; the self-simulation concept was mentioned by Langan multiple papers, and was well-established by him at the point that Klee put out his 2020 paper. Langan's definition is considerably more rigorous too. To Klee's credit, he did go back and cite him, but if it was difficult, as Chris suggests, then that's likely a sore spot.)
Personally, I don't so much blame atheists as much as I blame dogmatic materialists. The atheistic worldview only became ontologically and metaphysically viable by virtue of dogmatic empiricist-materialism that it arose from. It's a lot like declaring yourself the final judge of all knowledge. I understand why people prioritize information from the senses -- but when you shirk metaphysical ideation altogether, and begin mistaking the *map* for the *territory* -- then you've committed a fatal error.
Our senses likely don't present the full picture -- and it's very well possible that the mind, by aggregating the senses -- is capable of providing a broader illustration of the territory. If mankind forgets this fact, it could be fatal. Just contemplate the possibility of what's going on with UAP right now.
It's especially concerning to me: the amount of scientific-materialists that are cocksure: that their contextualization of their lived experienced somehow isn't influenced by their own metaphysics (that they often don't even know they hold).
@@Archeidos-ArcanaAn excellent insight!
Radio frequency is how you get external consciousness into the machine
How would god make an emergent decision as if in a sequence, with god being outside of time unless it was already preordained? Like how is the action of severance possible unless time here influences the divine? I see a real contradiction here. Maybe metasimultaneity provides grounds for contradiction to be possible