I PLAY SO BAD!!! - Old School VS New School Poker Analysis Episode 8
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 ต.ค. 2024
- Welcome back to Episode 8 of the Old School VS New School Analysis series. This week we're going way back to the early 2000's where Mike Matusow and I both butcher a hand while we're hooked up to heart rate monitors. You've been asking for a hand I play poorly and here's a good one.
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If you take into account the heart attack equity you had against Mike, I think we can say that it was a fine play.
I read Mike’s book, “Check Raising the Devil” and he talks about how in the early 2000s he did meth and molly a lot, that probably contributed to the heart rate 😂
I had to google molly not heard that one before, it's another name for Es
@@UtopssAKAPJ Yeah pretty much just another nickname for Ecstasy/MDMA
Did Dnegs have a heart rate monitor on him? Can he just see his neck pulsating? Is Dnegs a god?
@@howdareyou41 pretty much
DNegs was subtly suggesting as much all throughout the video, though he didn't come out too directly about it excepting at one point
"He got old and nitty" lol
He didn't even giggle at it lol
He looks better now
Please keep making these very entertaining
Yesss, we need more of this hands that you would probably play it differently now. Great video!!!
This video style is pure gold!
You’re probably the only person that can pull it off bc you’re a legend but still learning.
Can you please do the hand versus Antonio for HSP, where he hits quads. I want to know if you could get away from that hand now. I think you could!
I remember this hand. I just assumed they both had great tells on each other. It would be interesting to hear Mike's current thoughts on the hand. He was probably so high he doesn't even remember it.
These are so great. Thank you so much DNegs!
Favorite video so far! I feel like there is far more to learn from mistakes than good plays. Thanks D!
Love this Daniel! Such a good series of clips!
Considering he was the one all in, it makes sense that his heart rate was higher than yours. When 27 pushes into my 83 preflop, my heart rate does nothing.
With that logic, the small stack should also chill out if they think the hand was EV+.
I'm confused how he knows what his HR was
@@howdareyou41 you could try paying attention to the video. DNegs stated they had heart rate monitors/devices hooked up for this specific tournament/tv show.
@@thataverageplayer5680 do you think they had heart rate monitors? it kinda seems like they did.
amazing series of videos. very good concept. thank you for the content!
Been looking forward to more of this, keep up the good work!
I really miss High Stakes Poker on GSN.
Those shows were incredible
Was not expecting to see you here lol
Go Giants haha
This is one of the best so far. Thanks, Ice Kid Poker.
Way to play 9-7 off and nearly have a heart attack at the table! Love it
Hey Dan, i love your videos and content, im learning a lot like this! Maybe if you can visualize each betting phase somehow that would be great, im getting confused while thinking and remembering what you bet and your opponent have bet at the same time :x
Love and greetings from germany
If your heart rate is resting through all this (super impressive) then what the hell did Phil Ivey have on you in Shark Cage?? Did he ever tell you? Best of luck for WSOP in a few months!!
I should qualify by saying that I am aware that one thing Ivey did not have was any chips :p
Wow, great analysis. Thank you Daniel.
Loving the new show! Was just watching some classic WPT in the background when that hand from the 2006 Bellagio Five Diamond WPT Classic came up with you vs Ed Jordan where he ships 1,045,000 into a pot of 3,070,000 on the turn with a board of Qh-Qc-10h-4h with the 7s8s vs you're AcKh which you correctly called with in that spot. Would love to know about the table dynamic and player profile of a player like EDJ. Keep up the great job and thanks again for this creative take on TH-cam Poker Content.
Thank you for the video on your game play. Very informative
I started watching poker videos simply because of you. I'll have to learn how to play so that one day I can hopefully get the chance to play against you heads up.
Dude, your reads are phenomenal
Great retrospective, as always. Next do 1999 USPC vs Bonetti, all-in, 10s vs flush draw!
Best Poker Content Creator! So much knowledge it's amazing!
I was one of those comments you referred to, and this is exactly the type of hand I was hoping you would analyze. I still don't understand why you can't limp, but I am weak low stakes player so perhaps that explains why right there.
Never limp 1) it undermines your post flop play 2) splits your ranges 3) does not allow you to steal.
@@derekpaitrick1007 I would be more afraid of a guy who limped in and came out charging than a guy who raises a c-bets.
@Daniel Negreanu omg, Kid poker rocking the blond hair, I remember those days... excellent trip down mem lane... lol
The highlight of my life was to meet you at aria hotel at the posh burger place! my biggest regret was not getting a picture of you and I standing together! i was the guy the couldnt speak i was just so awe struck! thank you for being an amazing person!
i remember watching this when it first aired.
I'm a beginning player, you mentioned that 9-7 is a strong hand for this flop, can you explain why? Also you say that you're pretty much always playing it preflop as well, why is that?
9-7 can make straights and flushes, so he is always openning this hand late position... Its strong on the flop because its top pair and its very hard for someone have two pair or better on this flop, because that would be trips or 9-2,9-4,2-4, no one plays with that, so top pair is strong alone
Can you please do one of the quads Vs Gus Hansen? 🤔. Very curious if your hand is a fold with current GTO knowledge.
So in short: Don't play a very marginal made hand like it's a premium made hand.
You know, narcissists typically have significantly lower heart rates in stressful situations. Just sayin'
Makes sense...
So when the spotlight is on a narcissist they are quite comfortable lol...man thats too funny.
and Sociopaths ....
@@cirecomputers I didn't want to go there but yes, sociopaths too.
Funny comment, but the more likely explanation is that Daniel (and many pros) have just trained themselves to approach the game rationally and not get emotional/stressed, which can interfere with your thought process/decision making. It definitely helps if you're playing stakes you can afford too.
I’m a huge fan. I think you’re probably still my favorite player. But you do toot your own horn A LOT. Lol. So. It was very refreshing to see that you can admit when you played a hand bad. The honesty was very appealing to me. Good luck at the tables!
I getting a lot out of these Old School VS New School videos
"I would never have a limping strategy today" and year later... limping is pimping :D
Hey Daniel, I’m a video editor, and watching your youtube videos, I notice a bad editing, my work can improve so much the quality of your work
i remember that tourny, ice king negs
This entire video was to show off that you kept your heartrate low lol :p
I literally said the same thing , he has such a complex where he has to show how superior he is or better he is . Small man syndrome to the Max
he's pathetic
I like how Dnegs calls himself the "Ice King." As we all know, the "Ice King" (Adventure Time) is a bit looney tunes.
can u do the hand against esfandiari where he folds st.flush.......board was A2354 all spades . we couldn't see ur cards so i have guess of ur holdings. FYI....if u need the hand video i can send it to u......tnx
Would be awesome if you had the person you were playing with you in one of these videos.
What a way to say coca cola, ‘candy up the nose’
For u guys talking about hands... I got pushed all in tonight, A2 off... I had nines. Took a "turn" 4 tha worse.
It's always far easier to take the jibbedy jabbedy line while playing all loosey goosey eating a sandwich, as the sandwich eating distraction deters aggro play...
Daniel I have made the argument that losing that 1.2m to doug was actually an incredible investment because of how much better you became. I think you gained significantly more than 1.2m in EV for the rest of your poker career. What are your thoughts?
@harrydevriesable if he wins 1 single tournament that he likely wouldn’t have before the match then that could easily make up for it and don’t forget Daniel plays a lot at the WSOP. That’s not even figuring in the fact that Daniel gained even more notoriety and fans.
@@mattstone9364 CG HU and MTT completely different thing
@@DonnieL90 are you seriously trying to imply that there isn’t a Fuck ton of overlap?!?
@@mattstone9364 not really when we talk about GTO strategy.
@harrydevriesable do tourneys not always end up heads up? Not to mention he still got MASSIVELY better at the fundamentals of the game.
Tournament Question:
If someone is getting blinded out because they left the table. This eventually caused the blinded out player to go all-in.
Does those cards get folded since player is away from the table or since the player is all-in they must be tabled and potential win.
This happened and the player was very close to cashing. One TD said yes and the other said no.
Go ask the question in some poker forum
Hands dead if they are not sat down.
No, the sitting out all in player cards are alive.
But if they are sitting out and not all in, their cards are alive until someone bets or raise.
@@TheBeastNC Not in any casino in the Uk. The cards are dealt to the seat but they are dead if no one is sat down on the seat.
@@TheBeastNC NO
Daniel mentioned early in this video that he didn't want to engage in a large pot, but rather wanted to chip away small ball. Can someone explain why for me? Is it because it's risky playing an opponent who's unpredictable?
He's talking about how he thought back in the day. That is what he meant but it is no longer sound poker strategy so I wouldn't put too much stock in it lmao. The point of these videos is to highlight the difference between then and now in terms of strategy
He basically tried to win tournaments in a very safe way keeping pots small and only getting it in with the nuts. Everyone was pretty bad then so it worked well for him at the time
Think we can learn a lot from hands that you played wrong, that is how is lose usually.
Is it easier to dye your grey/ white hair dark or blond?
And Superstar.. your old school hair colour seems much cooler....
You like Man Jam don't you Daniel?
which is the best software for learning holdem and for instand help when playing live ?
hey mon have me on one a these 'ere breakdowns for da old school
This was actually Poker at the Plaza..not showdown at the Sands
I think he jammed cause he figured he was ahead with top pair and you raised him with something like J8/10 or q8/10, something like that. He just wanted to get it in and hope you missed your over(s).
You would re pre especially with a modern day Mike in the bb that folds like 70% now.
he put mikey on blast lol
but why blue frames tho?
You used to win when you were playing back in the days. Is this New school mixing you up`?
I'm not sure if you are serious but the Daniel who used to win "back in the days" wouldn't beat today's low stakes
Old school analysis is about comparing hands compare to your predicted opponents hands strength. New school analysis is about calculating the probabilities that you get a good hand compared to what you believe your opponent might have based of their betting patterns. The problem with old school is that old school takes a lot of risk in anticipation that your opponent does not have a nut hand. The problem with new school is that new school tends over-call too often that it makes you play like a maniac. Daniel has to balance his play if he is going to beat phil.
What about when he had kk vs your 89 and flop came 8k8
D@n_B and g_GP@ker didn't and wasn't ever going to apologize or offer to work on the problem in the company, V@nessa_K@de's new employer did. BIG DIFFERENCE!
Come do a video about how this kid from SC L.A. is pullin' $1k a night playing 1/2NL.
Classic DNegs, making fun of someone's past drug addiction with a giggle and a smile. Oh look he means well tee hee hee
Typical progressive hypocrite with a nasty streak a mile wide. I'm surprised he wasn't wearing black-face and kicking his dog while filming this...
@@deraykrause4517 my fav part is how he does it with his phony Mean Girls routine
Why r u all watching if u don’t like him
@@Dyl3423 Starved for poker content? Duh
@@Dyl3423 Same reason I watch Harvey Weinstein movies. Just because someone is an absolute piece of dog sh!t garbage person doesn't mean you can't enjoy their content.
I think this hand happened because you both new each other so well - if this hand was either of you vs a complete stranger it would not have happened this way at all. Another hand that went down oddly was Daniel Negreanu vs Ted Forrest, he's on the Button with Aces, Daniel is in the Big Blind with Ace Queen... The board runs out with 3 6s and an ace... But he checks behind on the river, to showdown aces full... Weird hand - I think its the only time Ive seen someone check down aces full...
When it comes to what mike was on, I'm not saying I'm just saying....
Still watching the video but had to comment on how I love the backhanded comments on Mike Matusow
Hey Daniel how are you
I’m great friend thanks
160 bpm...thats so dangerous man..surprised he survived
???
He was a big boy with a twice as fast heart beat. Cocaine in his system. The risk of heart attack is very high living like that
Great stuff over here
Daniel I've seen you raise with a drawl many times and bluff. I've been watching you for years.
It's a Canadian accent, actually ;)
That shirt looks to small. Looks like something Eric Foreman would have worn.
Raising a pro OOP gratifies ego...🙂
Yup, Daniel still as irritatingly nice as ever.
Since almost all pros have the same strategy in playing poker, it all comes in getting good cards. A pro cannot beat a rookie with good cards even if the pro will bluff or bet all-in, the rookie will play his cards in “chances and probabilities” of hitting better combination of cards.
Cowboy Aces
"Cocaine is a helluva drug"
I ben à fan of you for to long and i think you plaid it bad lol
Wow what a controversial statement😐
Would like to have watched this ... but I just can't handle 15:00 of ANYTHING that has Bozo Matusow in it ...
Nice video but despite all happening in the market now,Investing in crypto is still and will be the only big chance of making money without stress.
For real crypto is profitable.
Crypto is the new gold.
I wanted to trade Crypto but got confused by the fluctuations in price.
That won't bother you if you trade with a professional like Mr Robert Carl.
@@justinasmithy7648 I heard that his strategies are really good.
Wales
spiderman pointing meme......
Nobody cares that you had a lower heart rate
Candy up his nose 👃🥸
I know I can beat you in poker. Challenge me!
no u can’t
Wow you look older in the old video because your hair is so long and thick now.
Not a hater but you did lose to Polk and Helmut.
But they are good players as well.
Sensei ♠️♥️♣️♦️
Clearly you were making bad decisions. Look at those hair choices...
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I love your videos. As a feedback I didn´t find this one very interesting. : D
wtf xD
Old N Nitty
HEY DANIEL YOUR GG POKER RIPPED ME OFF STOLE FROM ME N SCAMMED ME I.REGRET PLAYING THERE BECAUSE I SEEN YOU SPONSOR THEM U SHOULDN'T
Can you imagine Mike Postle breaking down a hand like this? LMAO.....Me either! Also, seems like a lot of haters here, just remember haters, he has a smoking hot wife, does what ever he wants, and is RICH!........How's that taste haters? Lol
Who knew old school was all about talking about drugs, being unprofessional, and condescending. I thought that was you now-a-days, at least the " I'm a liberal. I'm smarter than everyone even though I have zero clue about anything buy poker". Who knew?
This is so stupid, your "old school analysis" is no analysis and your new school analysis is so old....
What else is new? No, but seriously mate, seeing you play deep stack NLH on High Stakes Poker just showed how fundamentally bad you were. You ran hot early and was able to fade variance and had an interesting personality that you were able to parlay into corporate money. Grats mate, you won at life! Remember when you played BMWCoupe, who was nothing more than a decent 2Knl reg and he ripped you apart? First couple hundred hands you ran well and beat him, talked shit and then he ended up taking your lunch money. Guy was like the 25th best player in Québec and he crushed you. ayou can never complain about bad luck ever. You feisted on fish while it was easy money while being good while poker players were drunkards and degenarates. Once smart money started moving in it was over. You play goofy and passive and relied on making hands. And you made those hands in crucial spots. ayou were awful in marginal situations, leaking heaps of money. But trust me, you win at life, so it’s all good. Who cares if you’ve been bad and running well for 15 years 😉