Is the M3 Pro MacBook Worth Buying for Video Editing?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 11 ก.ย. 2024
- In this video I talk about my first impressions with the new M3 MacBook Pro. I purchased the M3 MacBook Pro to speed up my workflow since I've seen so many creators talk about how great Mac's are, well I had to see for myself.
I've used Windows for over 20 years!! It's a big change for me, but I'm willing to persevere if it's worth it.
Is it? Watch the video to find out.
35 years in windows , now shifted me to apple m3
Wow, you too eh?! What do you think about it so far?
@@thesahdstudio time saving
And u still like it? And what computer or laptop did U had before this?
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Hey I work as a professional video editor mainly in the ad film industry where we shoot on arri and red cameras sometimes even sony vegas... as an "offline editor" who's main focus is to edit the story, put out a reference music track and some sfx.... the base m3 pro is more more more than enough for just editing...
The process that we follow for professional editing is that the arri raw or the r3d or the mxf gets transcoded to 1080p apple pro-res 422 for fcp and premiere or dnxhd mxf for avid media composer.
Once the edit is locked we send out an xml or edl to the colorist who is mostly working out of davinci resolve or baselight. They use the xml and replace the mov clips with the raw and grade on it. Once the grade is locked the final delivery of the film then happens at the online edit which is done on autodesk flame systems which are based on linux...
If we consider the m3 pro which I use too for professional editing... then its more than enough. I always feel that the best way to edit is to transcode no matter how good your system is... just transcode it overnight or if its less just go for a morning walk and breakfast thats all it requires... do the edit... once locked switch to raw and grade + render if you are the only person delivering the final file....
That's really cool, thanks for sharing. A good reminder for anyone wondering if the base model is good enough. I am still really happy with my choice to buy an older max as it works great with the Sony Codecs in 4k so I don't have to make proxies... But I bet following a similar method to yoursv would make the prices even smoother. Good share!!
@@thesahdstudio thank you... before we got spoilt with such good tech there were people creating marvels on old computers too 😋...
For cost restricted buyers the base m3 pro 14 inch is good too
@@nsen93what Ram configuration would you suggest?
what I like about this video is how it comes from someone who transitioned from a windows setup into the macbook. Most reviews I've seen on this model come from seasoned macbook users and they're always comparing two different silicon chips' performances, which is NOT wrong at all and it's very fair since it's important to know what the upgrades are in newer models. but the way they always said "dont buy this, buy that" and only points out on the minimal or at least not noticeable until you compare side by side type of drawbacks makes me look at the model very negatively and have second thoughts about transitioning, which again, happens every year when newer models come out. Thanks for the genuine first impression and thoughts video.
Thanks for the comment, I really appreciate it! I've recently switched back to Windows as I ultimately wasn't fully invested in the Apple ecosystem and wanted to get back into gaming, but still had a great time and have a new appreciation for Apple computers. Do you have a MacBook or are considering buying one?
@@thesahdstudio only macbook i’ve had was the one my company provided for work. I had my own mac mini m1 before. It was a really good machine i must say. What I felt when i bought it was a lot like what you described in this video. It got me into the ecosystem but after a while I had to sell it because of my financial situation. I’m considering to buy a macbook in the future because I like having a portable workstation
Such a informative vide mate! Been waiting for someone to test the M3 Macbook using Resolve rather than showcasing just benchmarks haha! Shout out to you! Looking forward to you testing that different codec!
Oh good. And I know, me too right? Show me what editing is like on this thing!!! I'll get some footage up this week. Thanks for watching 👊
I've been a Windows/Android user for ever as well, but lately I've been thinking about the MacBook Pro because my current PC can't handle editing 4K. I use Davinci Resolve as well. It's pretty scary/exciting thinking about changing but it will be fun learning something new.
That's exactly what I'm going through...scary / exciting but honestly it's mostly exciting. This thing makes editing in Resolve a breeze it's pretty nuts. Also the screen makes color grading more fun since it just looks so good. I DID just order the Max because it has more ram and a bigger hd, but that won't be arriving until Christmas so I'll keep using this one for another month until I return it. I'll try and get out more content on this Mac and editing 4k files so you can see just how good it is. Also on another note, I just ordered a v90 sd card for my Sony zv-e1 which means I can shoot in xcvc-si which apparently are less compressed video and also even easier to edit. The laptop can handle compressed files just fine but I really want to maximize my editing speeds hehe. Something to talk about at least! I'm mentioning it because maybe you are shooting in really compressed files and if you change those files to a less compressed codec or at the very least, make proxies (I made a vid on that you should watch if you don't), you'll speed up the work flow on your existing setup.
@@thesahdstudio I'll check it out, I'm not sure what codec I shoot in, ill have to have a look. Looking forward to seeing some more videos on how editing is going on the M3 Pro, since I feel like the max is a little out of reach for me!
I purchased this on its release day and was surprised to find that the base model included 18GB of RAM. While I haven't received any updates on the M3 yet, I was quite impressed with the M2 during the time I was using the Air model.
The 14-inch M3 Pro with 18GB of RAM is sufficient for all tasks, rendering at incredible speeds.
I use all adobe apps, struggles at MOGRT but thats due to poor compressing that are available.
The 512GB of storage is ample, but you can always supplement it with a portable SSD if needed.
Overall, I highly recommend it. Although I have also used the 16-inch model, I would suggest opting for the 14-inch version.
You really can't go wrong with ANY of the Apple Silicon chips right? It's just a bit tough figuring out exactly which model you need... it's very easy to over or underbuy. The Max was worth the extra $$$ for me due to the extra video encoders on the chip, but if you don't do video editing, that extra money would be wasted!
@@thesahdstudioTrue I’m just saving my max money to purchase one more similar MacBook Pro or build a PC so there’s always one editing system in our office and works more like a dock station and P1 for file management.
@@siddusaikhey im 18 year and wanting to start video editing advance lvl for yt videos and also wants to learn music beat production m4 is gonna release so ill hold to it but is 18gb enough for all this? Cuz even on m4 pro ill buy base 18gb i got no more budget ill prop buy m4 on my birthday march is 18gb enough for everything bruh?
@@Dream99972 yeah u can wait M4 as per news is not a performance upgrade but Ai integration.
But remember since ur just 18 - Adobe subscription is 7700INR per year if you’re okay go for it. If you want for free(crack) go for Dell new i5 laptop with 3060 6gb ddr6 at 77k
Respect and appreciation for your work dear sir. I watched your video on Aparture Amaran 60xs also its perfect review and I finalized my purchased after your video. Now same here for macbook pro I am considering M3 Max vs M3 Pro.
I'm really glad you found the videos and thanks for the comment 👊
And I know it's a tough decision. You have to think of a lot of things, price being a big one of them. I really found a Max was a much more enjoyable video editing experience so I'm a bit partial to that... But for just a everyday computer though Pro is more than enough for most people and it does edit videos pretty well too. You could always make proxies too worst case scenario.
Let me know what you decide and good luck!!
Really nice video. Im stressing about buying a new laptop cuz im still on a 2019 intel macbook pro and my dad's tired of me using his 16 inch m1 macbook pro all the time (ridiculous he has an m1 tho he's an accountant, he only uses excel, word, chrome, and outlook...). Thanks for making this fun to watch, it let me chill out for a bit inbetween all these comparison videos hahah.
Hahah yeah and I have more comparison videos coming soon too! M1 Max vs M3 Max in the next couple days. I'm just trying to figure it out and get the right one before I settle in and get cozy.
all I want is a laptop which will work as well as my Mac Studio but on the run. From what you've said the one that I just got (M3 MacBook Pro..er Pro seems to be the machine that's right for me. I want to be out in the countryside with my separate sd drive with all my FCP projects, editing my 4K film and adding my own music. Great stuff. Thanks for the review.
That really is a sick machine, capable of doing what you said. I like the fact that the max chips have extra encoders but I'm always a bit of an overkill kind of person... Depending on what codec you're working on that laptop is probably more than fine... Plus the battery is just outstanding. Have you had it for a while yet? What do you think about it?
Windows or Mac doesn't matter, but what does matter is with the Mac M-series chips and especially the M3 chips you need to understand the basic chip design and with one favors the work your going to do. With M3 Apple did a lot of juggling of number and types of cores, also reduced number of transistors on one of the M3 chips, and made some chassis changes removing a fan and a port. So you need to understand difference in performance cores vs efficiency core and the number of GPU cores. So you get the right one for the type of work you're going to do. Like I mainly do music so performance cores are important and GPU don't matter. You do video performance is important but GPU cores are very important. So you might of been better off buying a refurbish from Apple M2 Pro of a discounted one from Amazon or BestBuy and saved money and got just as much and in some cases more Mac for less money.
As the the Apple ecosystem if you not that much of a computer nerd it can be very handy that all the Apple devices talk to each other seamlessly. You can do basically the same thing on Windows using all the Google apps it's not as seamless as Apple ecosystem, but the basics are there.
These are all good points, thanks for sharing. I actually have ordered the Max which I am waiting for... whether it will be overkill for me, well that will be very interesting to see. I want something to lasts but my goodness it's a lot of money. It IS helping me make money so I can justify the cost if it helps my actual workflow which so far it seems like it does big time. I just have to make sure I get the right one like you said.
for a extra $400, just get the M3 max which should help you a lot more for video editing. It comes stadnard with 36GB RAM and 1 TB SSD, which i think is necessary for photo/ video editing. It also has faster memory bandwidth and 2x video encoder / decoder. I would spend the extra money... well i did spent the extra money.
I am not a fan of spending money on tech just to not be able to do what I need it to do.
The m3 Max literally JUST arrived :) Now I have both (until I return one) so time to pit them head to head in a deathmatch showdown. I can't wait to see what happens. I have no clue how well this thing will do.
would love to know your thoughts. I just started with me m3max yesterday. @@thesahdstudio
This year Apple downgraded the cores and overall specs of the Pro chip version to further differentiate the lineup. Sadly, your machine is the one version that is actually worse than last years M2 Pro. But the color is cool and one day the ray tracing may do something for you, but by that time the M6 will be out. Yesterday I actually created two multi-layer 4K videos, down-sampled 7K from my Sony A7IV in 10-bit, denoised with effects. One was created in CapCut which I am playing with and the other Davinci resolve. Each video was about an hour in length and I exported them both at the same time just for fun. My M2 Max 16" 32 didn't break a sweat and while that was going on I was editing my high resolution thumbnails in a 5K panel and watching TH-cam in 4K on another panel. If you were quiet and tilt your head you could hear the fans. My point is this, even the M1's are sick. The performance differences are barely or completely unnoticable and Apple's Mac sales agree with my view. If you are doing something that can touch the power of these chips short of running your own AI model or complicated 3D rendering (I do both and they will make Mac systems beg for mercy), you have to be doing something literally stupid like I did exporting 2 projects at once to touch the power here.
Apple is unbeaten to sell you less for more money and you even dont notice it..
when u say this m3 pro is worse than last years m2 pro, would u mind explaining what in specific do u mean by that, if u don’t mind, like for video editing or in general? is it the 150gb/s memory bandwidth for example bc ive been looking to get into the laptop market and ive watched so many reviews but i can’t decide which would be the best buy for a long term hold, (kinda deal with fomo for new tech) and im kinda a “brand new” laptop only buyer and all m series pro laptops are about the same in price new online (m1 pro-m3 pro) ($2000-$2500) but a lot of them have benefits of their own and changes in the next generations, i wanna get into video editing, coding for college, good battery and im not sure which model would be best, if u had any suggestions really would appreciate it
Yes, Apple has downgraded the M3 Pro chip to only have a 14-core GPU compared to 16 cores on the base M2 Pro chip model. Also, the upgraded M3 Pro now only has a 18 GPU cores compared to 19 on the M2 Pro. Also, they have substantially cut memory channels.@@plzwatchthis1057
Hehe that's awesome your M2 pro is still crushing it. Love to hear that. I actually ordered the Max so that will arrive closer to Christmas and I'll return this one (the Pro) once it arrives. Will it be overkill? Maybe. But I like the idea of having 32gb of ram like you mentioned. What codec do you shoot with on your a7iv? xcvc-s, hs, or is?
So far am having no regrets with this thing. The performance is fantastic.
No question they are master marketers. It's a lifestyle they sell. And I'll be honest, even after buying just the laptop, I want to buy an iPhone... I want to buy the headphones... they sure know what they are doing.
It took me a year to get used to the Mac OS and I'm still learning.
Haha yeah it's just the little things right? Although I used my windows computer the other day and it felt a little alien to me, I'm not going to lie.
I have been a computer and techno geek for a few decades now. Personally hate Apple even though that is what I learned on in the early 1990's but I truly hope it works out for you.
Hehehe thanks man. In Resolve there's a huge difference so far. I do need more time to really say for sure but I'm excited with this thing. There's a lot of little annoying things that when I use my Windows laptop I'm like 'ohhhh this is so much better' but maybe those will go away with time. We shall see! You rock a desktop or lappy?
I have both a desktop and laptop. Both are super computer though the laptop I had to go through hoops to update the video card when getting Davinci as both the laptop and video card tried to lie to me and say it was obsolete. So I googled it and then "hacked" it a bit and boom. My wife uses it for her videos. @@thesahdstudio
i was high and i thought i was tripping when u started doing the effects
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How are you finding the 16"? - I went for the 14" as it fits nicely in a 10L Peak Design Sling with a ZV-E1 haha. The 16" does have better battery, cooling and speakers though, so there is that! - it was a close call but as I travel a lot the 16" doesn't fit well in planes/trains/etc.
Honestly if I could make it bigger I would! It is a great size though I like it a lot. Traveling for me means going from one room to the other so I definitely don't have the same issue with size that you do 🤣. The screen and speakers are just fantastic I'm highly impressed with them.
So I talked a bit about recording codecs in the video. What do you shoot in? Xavc-s 4k?
hi bro.
choose Macbook pro
M3 pro 14 inch ( 1 TB SSD)
but i confusing which specs enough for graphic designs and video editing works ???
11 core CPU, 14 core GPU ( m3 pro)
12 core CPU, 18 core GPU (m3 pro)
RAM : 18 GB (or) 36 GB
I think they can all do it... The question is how well do you want the computer to do it. For me the pro wasn't quite good enough even though it was better than what I had before. If you want a computer that does a little bit of minor video editing then even the smaller one is probably enough. But if you want to grow and keep this computer for a long time I think it's worth spending a few extra bucks and getting more RAM. Exciting purchase!
Thank you for this video. It was very helpful 😊
Glad you found it! Thanks for watching and good luck on your journey. I did ultimately stay in the Mac ecosystem but the M3 Pro was not the one for me.
Struggling with this decision right now. I've got a 1 year old Asus ProArt Studiobook, , and have been looking to build a new desktop to replace it just for Resolve Studio. I've had so many problems with corrupted timelines, lagging, etc on this system that it is just wasting my time. It's a pretty powerful laptop with a 13 Gen I9, 64Gb RAM, and an RTX 4060, but it still struggles way too much, and I as a part time creator I can't afford to have hours of work made useless because I can't open the timeline anymore. After seeing some performance tests I'm starting to consider Apple again. I just hate the way everything is laid out on Mac's, even though I do have an Iphone, IWatch and IPad...
Yeah I hear you. You can really customize Apple with apps to make it feel more like a Windows experience. I've gotten mostly used to it at this point. Your editing experience on that computer should not be that bad... what Codec are you editing with? Do you ever make proxies? I know it's a slight pain but, your setup should offer smooth editing performance. Let me know about what camera and video files you're working with then let's go from there.
@@thesahdstudio Primarily it is 4k H.265 I believe, from a Canon R8, with some from DJI action cam or drone, which believe are H.264. I drop timeline resolution down to 1/4 for the 4k timeline, I use Fusion Render cache, and have tried proxies. Biggest problem I have is the timelines becoming corrupted randomly, which then crash as soon as they are opened. I've contacted Black Magic support, with no resolution. I'm so scared to close Davinci that I just power through an entire edit, render and proof before closing out these days. I don't do a lot of crazy Fusion effects, but do use some Fusion titles and transitions. Little to no color grading at this point. I do use Voice Isolation on just about every edit though. I'm currently leaning towards a Mac Studio and just getting a low end Macbook Air for travel and transfer of footage to an ssd, eventually.
@@m2seacrew yeah that's frustrating man. For science it'd be curious if you converted all the footage to Prores or something and see if you still have any issues. But I'd hope a Mac Studio would be gnarly for you... I mean the M3 Max I was using was pretty impressive. But still, the lack of GPU made the Effects not super duper smooth. I mean it was good enough... the overall editing experience in the timeline was smooth like butter and that's the most important part imho
I should have mentioned in the other video. You can still live in Google land. All the apps are available for Mac OS.
Definitely learn the shortcuts. You can edit it some if you want to in Settings - Keyboard. You have some more control there.
I personally operate in both worlds (Windows and MacOS). Been doing so for a very long time. I still prefer Mac OS since 1997.
Thanks for the video and good luck!
Thanks for the comment. And good call with the shortcuts. I have been in Googleland for awhile and it's fine but I'm just so curious what's outside of it so I might try and do a painful but FULL switch. I wonder if it's even possible with thousands of pictures etc in Google Photos.
Not sure if it'd be worth actually doing but we'll see. I have a tendency to go all in when I do things :)
I have seen that while editing in final cut pro there is an option to change it from "better quality" to "better performance" which was allowed the base Macbook M3 model to handle raw 6k footage. Idk if that helps or if there is an option in Resolve that will help with the buffering/lag. Also personally, I have my foot in both ecosystems, I run a high performance desktop when editing in Premier and other Adobe softwares. But I also enjoy the apple ecosystem and the seamless transfer between devices as I have an Ipad pro, iphone, and recently a mac which i sold due to financial reasons. Hope this helps!
Out of curiosity what phone are you rocking? Yeah that's a good point. Yes there are lots of ways in resolve to speed up the scrubbing and editing... I'm just trying to find the workhorse that's beefy enough where I don't have to do that and so far it seems like the m3 Pro can handle it. Although just for science I did buy the max which is on its way so I will test that as well. Not sure if I'll keep it due to the cost but we'll see.
I found it quite funny how you were trying to talk yourself into getting the M3 Max chip version in this video, then I had a look at your channel and saw the video "M3 Pro vs M3 Max" and then "M3 Max - From Excitement to Regret". Cracked me up 😂
Haha right? I thought it was funny too which is why I did it. But I think I've been able to help a lot of people understand more what each machine is truly capable of at least when it comes to video editing for us amateurs anyway. I'm happy about that.
I see your going to go ahead and grab the max. I know you will be happy throwing effects and overlays over your video and it won't lag. If your a video content creator rendering multiple clips dropping in your video into apps like captions or cap cut it serves its purpose to invest in any max chip. As the world advances files and apps just get bigger. Apple just needs to scrap the entry level systems and just sell the pro or max chips. Pro is industry standard for computers in general for people to handle projects here and there but if you doing 4k video every week you need the max. The amount of rendering and stuff you don't want your machine skipping a beat. You need to be able to edit render and upload without the computer even blinking that's what the max chip brings.
My Max showed up yesterday and I spent all day comparing it vs the Pro and, you're not wrong. The Pro is still a beast but can't quite compete with the Max when I really started pushing it. The video will be up soon.
With that being said I'm telling my neighbour who's a Mac user about my recent purchase and he, who ONLY watches Netflix and writes scripts was like "I want to make sure the one I get can handle watching content and stuff you know?". I was like, ahhh there's the audience the base model is for :)
loving the new videos fellow content creator here enjoying it for sure it would be cool to see a day in the life of content creation I always enjoy those videos and gain inspiration from them @@thesahdstudio
@@ShoeCrewTV Sweet man, will keep that in mind for sure. Appreciate the support. How's it going for you? You working on the ShowCrewTV channel or do you have other things going on as well?
The first question you need to answer for yourself which Video Codexes do i have to edit & constantly buying & selling or constantly returning parts of your setup will get you to no Solution. My advice get the best 1/2 Cameras that you can afford & a Laptop that can handle editing those Videos
For sure... good questions but they are tough to answer when you just begin. I think the Apple Silicon laptops are a safe place to start though for any new creator.
I still prefer Windows for my main system... But everything in my mobile setup is apple, and it's a major part of the my production workflow in the field as well. The only reason I still use and will keep building Windows systems is because I can customize everything I need in a home build and despite the Apple narrative, there's still plenty of decent hardware out there that do just as well as there SOC design in real world use, but still give you swappable parts.
Very interesting. I'm really considering switching to an iPhone as I think that will be the real proof that I've switched and committed to the Apple ways but I'm a little hesitant. I have no experience with Airdrop or, heck any of the Apple services but they seem really awesome, and I would love to use the camera more on my phone and be able to move those files around easier than always plugging in. Let me know if you think it'd be worth me switching the phone.
And when I use my Windows PC, I miss it. I can fly around on that thing and it still feels good. I still need it for a few apps I can't get on the Mac as well for controlling my network stuff which I haven't figured out on the Mac yet either.
If you really want to see what that machine can do, you need to shoot 6k prores HQ and edit in FCP.
The quality is amazing and editing is a breeze.
For now I am stuck with my Sony camera so am limited in working with those codecs! But the Mac still rips for that.
@thesahdstudio if you get the chance, try downloading some 6k proress HQ files from a S5iix and give fcp a try.
The quality is amazing and as fcp is optimised for prores, the editing is easy despite the massive file sizes.
It's a massive step up for armatures and semi pros to be editing proresHQ so easily on "affordable" computers.
So im in the same situation, i was a windows guy until now but now that i need to upgrade my phone im thinking of getting the iphone 15 pro or the S24 ultra. If i would jump to Apple sooner or later i would upgrade to a Macbook pro with an m3 pro chip. I edit 4k footage and having multiple layers and texts + animations puts my current laptop to his limits (at least at play back time)
How do you feel about your decision now that some time has passed ?
Yo! I just released a new video that explains how I feel about the M3 max better than I could respond with in a comment :) Let's chat more about it there!
I'm currently editing videos in DaVinci Resolve on my desktop Windows PC and I'm planning on buying myself a laptop to be able to work anywhere. It's really hard decision for me wether it's gonna be MacBook or Windows machine.
From one side MacBook build quality is very high, it also looks way better, everyone is compliments it's keyboard, touchpad, sound quality and pretty much everything else but on the other side I worry that I won't like MacOS and even if I will I'd have to learn how to interact with the system from the very beginning which obviously is gonna lead to inability to edit and learn to edit as fast as it was on Windows. Also I'm planning on still using my Windows PC even after buying a laptop and if that's will be MacBook then certainly constantly switching between Windows and MacOS is not going to be a pleasant experience)
Please let me know what you think. Maybe your advice can make my decision a little bit easier)
Okay switching between the two isn't ideal butt it isn't that bad. You can put Chrome or whatever else you want on the Mac... And while it takes a little while to get used to some of the different commands and shortcuts, overall I think it was actually great. Worst case scenario you can reprogram the buttons and create your own shortcuts to match that of windows and then it would be a very smooth transition. A lot of people do it. And there's just so many little apps you can have that make it more of a Windows experience like rectangle which helps you snap your windows around etc.
Yeah honestly no Windows laptop really comes close to matching the video editing experience of the MacBook. If you want portable power I think you're going in the right direction. It's nice to buy used to save a few bucks but if you try buying new you can always return it. That's what I did.
Which one are you thinking of getting?
@@thesahdstudio Thanks for your advice! For now it's either MacBook Pro 16-inch with M1 Pro vs ASUS Vivovbook S16 OLED S5606MA (most powerful version)
@@Ilya_Yatsko I know it costs a lot more but the Max chip is just SO good when it comes to having a smooth editing experience, I highly recommend it if you can make it work with your budget. The Asus screen will be nice but the battery will likely not come close to the MacBook let alone the power while it's unplugged. Good luck with your choice :)
Thanks for the content! Deciding between M3 Pro and M2 Max. I'm gonna do video editing on it among other things. What would you recommend?
The Max no hesitation IF you want your video editing experience to be smooth as butter. If you don't need it to be super smooth, the M3 Pro is still very capable and will have a better battery. They are both just fantastic but for video editing, the double media engines on the Max chips make a HUGE difference.
Haha! Glad you waited to get a much better deal! Waiting here for the Mac Studio M3 Max when it's available. 3nm is a good jump from 5nm and M3 Max is competing with M2 Ultra in many use cases! Been using Windows since 1996! Use external 1-2TB for cache and enable smart cache when needed. Also it finally has AV1 encoding!
Interesting! Is AV1 going to be a big deal do you think? Is the point of it smaller files or more effective files to work on?
@@thesahdstudio It's comparable to H.265 (HEVC) in size/quality but open source. Most streaming platforms gonna shift to it. So uploading in AV1 can make things easier or get priority by TH-cam to show a much better compression than VP9 they use now mostly? AV1 videos don't look that good so far on youtube with similar blocky artifacts in gradient shadows/colors.
@Bo_Hazem really interesting. Thanks 👊
@@Bo_Hazem I don't think M3 series has that AV1 "encoder" but only "decoder", just as how it is described on the Apple website, which is kind of frustrating to know they might put the the feature in the following generation.
@@Wayne-sn6qy It's the Apple way of releasing things, like celebrating USB-C 10Gbps and we've been for a while with 40Gbps which is thunderbolt performance. I hate both MS and Apple but planning for the next Mac Studio M3 Max for both portability and low power usage and it'll be my first Apple PC.
Might go back to Windows when Snapdragon releases something similar and Microsoft releases a competent OS on ARM.
I JUST got the M3 Max and compared it here - th-cam.com/video/eaNBAqprWKE/w-d-xo.html
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Check out my fun first impressions video of the M3 Pro here: th-cam.com/video/TZgfFGWToOk/w-d-xo.html
Love it when you young people talk about the high price of Apple products. Steve Jobs unveiled the first Mac I ever owned the 1984 Apple Macintosh computer with at $2,500.00 US price tag. Today adjusted for inflation cost of that original 1984 Apple McIntosh would be $7,405.90 US in October 2023.
Haha. First of all thanks for calling me young. Second, my dad had a Tandy 1000 which lord knows how much he spent on being an early adopter. But yeah, at the time you had to pay to play! Now we at least have many options to choose from. This DOES cost a lot, and the Max I ordered which I'm going to try instead of this Pro costs even MORE... but what I need to find out for myself is, is this worth the cost... or are people brainwashed. I can't say yet. This is good stuff but does it warrant the cost.
typical boomer
I think 16GB is still low RAM if you wanna deal with heavy duty tasks like 3D, Raw , rendering stuff. I would say 64GB minimum but apple likes money and I can easily get a Dell 64GB laptop for less. GPU and RAM is a decision factor for me and I don't care about the rest. That's why I still need to figure out a laptop for editing on the go with simple stuff only. Hard task
Not sure if you saw my most recent video but in it I share what took me a LONG time to realize... video editing is all about decoders. It's why the Apple Silicon chips are so good and why most Windows are not. A lot of the Intel 11th+ Gen chips (with a K on them e.g 14700K) use QuickSync which is their own media engines that will make working with most video codecs MUCH better. I always thought Windows machines were just garbage at video editing, it turns out I just wasn't working with the right footage.
Such a great video, just what I seached!
Glad you found it! Fyi I JUST dropped a new video you might want to watch talking more about editing with the M3 Pro: th-cam.com/video/r4pvS3VeRCI/w-d-xo.html
Once you get the phone it's a done deal. lol. I'd say get the Max and more RAM. Apple Card will be your friend. Looking forward to more videos on Resolve and the mac.
Haha right? And yeah, yesterday I ordered the Max with 1tb and 32gb of ram. Looking forward to trying that out.
Can't wait to get some more videos up about Resolve and the MacBook! Stay tuned.
You may want to correct your title. It looks like you got the M3 Pro Macbook Pro, but your title reads that you got the base M3 (not M3 Pro).
Yes thank you, good catch! I indeed got the Pro Pro not the regular m3. Shows what a Mac newb I am!
@@thesahdstudio I don't think it's you. The naming conventions from Apple are just wacky.
only issue on windows is 4;2;2 Support for playback no AMD no Nvidia Gpu supports 4:2:2 decode
They don't eh? Are encoders and decoders part of the hardware on the CPU or something? I'd like to learn more about that... I noticed the max chips seem the best for video editing in those file types because of the encoders and decoders I'm guessing?
@@thesahdstudio yes decoders for specific codecs , So far Mac M series and Intel iGPU Only supports 4:2:2 Real time playback , where as others like AMD/Nvidia do not support it , So it is decoded by CPU which makes playing it back kimda laggy even if you put something like a rtx4090 and most of the Mirrorless cameras use10bit 4;2;2.
For this specifc use case m series is great
Thanks for opinion! Really resonates with me.
Glad you found the video! Apple sure makes great products. You just have to find the right one for you!
Just unpacked my m3 pro. I'm the windows guy BTW 😄
@ilmarss ohhh baby! How exciting. Once you've had a chance to play around with it with let me know what you think!
This might be a dumb question but, i have a laptop with rtx2060 i5 9300h 16 ram, would there be a huge difference if i got M3 pro with 36ram and 512gb ssd? My knowledge about apple is really bad so i have no idea
So it depends on what you'll be doing, but for video editing, yes, it will be a huge jump. Not only will it be MUCH better for video editing, you can do it all on battery too which is insane. The battery on the M3 Mac's is just bananas. The Pro isn't as good as the Max chip for editing but overall it's a great choice. I think you'd be really happy with it.
Listen about compressed files. Very good point
Yeah I never quite realized how much of a difference working on compressed files makes. For awhile there my goal was to shoot uncompressed, but then I realized the quality was a bit worse at the sacrifice for making the files easy to work on. It's a fine line trying to find the sweet spot.
Please reply me asap 👇🏻
Hi brother please suggest me this thing- i'm a full time designer and complex video editor in future I will use this laptop for after effects works. The video clips I use for editing those are 4k 60FPS h.264/HEVE
Currently I'm using Intel windows laptop Now I want to buy 14inch MacBook m3 pro with 11core CPU, 14Core GPU 18GB memory, 512GB SSD now can you please suggest me should I buy this laptop for next 5 years?
Advance thanks 🙏🏻
I would not but that. You will want the Max chips as they have double the video encoders which make a huge difference for video editing. Get 32/36 GB Ram and at least 1tb of HDD.
The Pro chip is not good enough for full time video editing in my opinion.
Hey man m4 is gonna release so I’ll buy that but ill go for base pro version 18gb ram
My requirements are main
Video editing
Will that be enough? I got no more budget to modify ram🙂
Honestly, IF you are going to be doing video editing on there, you gotta get the Max chip. It has double the video encoders which will make the biggest different over the CPU's. I mean I ended up returning all the M3's and got myself a M1 Max with 32gb ram. It shreds the video editing. Save up and get a Max chip if you can. I wouldn't recommend the Pro for video editing but that's just me.
Hi, I have a small question even I am looking to buy a laptop especially for video editing, color grading, luts, shooting in 4K 60 FPS with multiple layers of graphics.. in short. Heavy editing stuff. So we’re you able to do all these stuff on your Rog with 2080 graphics card ? And one more question can Mac book handle all the things that I’ve mentioned above. It’ll mean a lot if you could answer this question. Thanking you in advance .. 😊
Honestly, the ROG laptop struggled with it when it was plugged in. IF I used proxies it was fine but that was a bit annoying. The Mac can handle ALL of the things you mentioned buttery smooth WITHOUT using proxies AND it can do it all on battery. It's pretty crazy. I do think the Max chip is worth getting over the Pro if you are going to do video editing. I ended up getting a M1 Max and it still shreds!
Hey nice review thinking for getting the macbook pro m3 16" just not sure what spec yet. I also edit on resolve for my small but growing youtube channel.have you any suggestion as ill be editing hopefully oncea week. hope all is well
Well I'm not really sure about your budget or anything but from all my research and testing I think I will return all the M3 stuff and just get an M1 Max 16". That, I think, is more than enough for anyone in your shoes. I'd suggest 32gig ram and at least 1 tb hard drive. The M3 is great but it can't really handle VFX which I'd like to add, so this should be good enough for awhile and allow me to upgrade my other gear a little more. Hope that helps! Save where we can right?
@@thesahdstudio hey there thanks for that, sound advice. Resolve can be hard on the labtop/ pc 🖥️ while doing some work. I shoot my video off my 13 pro max so it’s very easy to get the footage off and putting onto a Mac book
i want upgrade my old PC (Ryzen 5 1600 & GTX 1070) to PC who can handle Video Editing 4K 4:2:2 10 Bit H.265 without Proxies on premiere pro or davinci resolve
Can you advise me, which better should i buy?
Windows PC that have Intel i7 14700k & RTX 4060 OR Mac Studio M2 Max?
Because the price really similar in my country, and for game i just play DOTA2, Valorant, and other light games. (maybe i still use old PC for the gaming)
Tough call my friend! There's something special about having a video card for those times you need it. But an M2 Studio would edit so well...
I honestly don't have much experience with the newer desktop Windows stuff, but if you haven't checked out the Tech Notice channel I highly recommend it. This is his world and he will offer much better advice than I could.
You will have to let us know what you decide!
Is it true that it really isn't able to support than one external monitor?
Only 1 for the non Pro/Max right? The big brothers can handle 3? That's gnarly. I've never needed more than one but I guess this is the kind of tool where some people do and that's sick.
Hi, I actually work on a PC desktop, I want now to buy a mac to be able to work outdoor. Are there any problems transferring files from Windows to mac?
To be honest I have a hard drive that I moved all my files over too before moving them to the Mac, and it was no problem. I'm not sure exactly how to do it directly from a MacBook to a Desktop but I'm sure it's not complicated. Nowadays all the file types are so similar it's not as big of a thing as it used to be. Which Mac do you want to get?!
@@thesahdstudio the One in the video, M3 pro with 18 gb RAM . Wich hard drive do you use?
@jrl__alessandro9127 I actually have a network attached storage drive so I just use that. Depending on the size of the files though I mean you could even use a jump drive. But depending on files it might be worth getting a decent external one. I hear Samsung's are good.
You bought the MBP 14” M3 Max, not Pro
The machine in this video is the 16'' MacBook Pro (16gb ram / 512 hard drive). I did order a 16'' Max which will arrive around Christmas so when that arrives I will return this one.
Excited! These things seem nuts.
Hi bruh i thought very much bout ur recommendations that u suggested max chip for editing here in my country max chip m3 pro is 4000 dollar its pretty expensive compare to others what i was thinking that rather than buying max should i built a 5000 gaming pc i can do gaming too in it then and would it be powerful and better for editing compare to max? Thanku
Ok, I have learned something lately that is very important. And that is... you need to figure out what kind of files or codecs you will be doing while you are video editing. See I always thought it was because the Max chips were SO good... they are! But it's also because when I was using it on Windows and testing it, I was using the WRONG codecs. If I recorded on a different codec on my Windows computers, it would have been WAY different. You can check out this page here:www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/what-h-264-and-h-265-hardware-decoding-is-supported-in-davinci-resolve-studio-2122/
I'm going to make a video on it shortly so stay tuned. Yeah, you probably don't need to spend the big bucks on the Max depending on what kind of footage you will be editing.
I think that for your case (video editing) the max would be more beneficial, because The max chips have 2 encode & 2 decode engines,,,the pro chips have only one of each,,,, video with effects, more gpu cores and more ram would help as well,,, I'm no video editor by any means, but the max chips are better for that task,,,
Thanks for chiming in. Yesterday I ordered the Max so it is on its way! It sadly won't arrive until Christmas but at least I have this one to use until then... and honestly, this thing is pretty bananas. It's probably fine but I am excited to get a little more so I can really use and push my video editing. I just want to get really good at it and have as many tools at my disposal as possible.
Happy with the MacBook so far though. Are you team Apple?
@@stickybeak3172 very interesting... what was the conclusion at the end of the video? Was 48gb of ram enough? I've been considering the older M2 Max but if I get one with a bump up from the 32 gb ram, the 64gm ram one is, well around $1,000 cheaper than the m3 max. Tough call at that point what to do.
@@stickybeak3172 thx for letting me know. Yeah he's got a sweet Channel!
thxxx for this!
Thanks for the comment 👊 Appreciate it!
What a question in the header. Even the M1 MacBook Pro is worth buying for video editing.
Haha right? On one hard, like you said, yes. It's worth it. I guess the real question is 'Is it worth upgrading for?'. I'm sure a lot of people have M1's or older computers and really want to know just how much better it'll be. I tried to showcase (in other videos as well) exactly how well it performs in the Resolve so if others use it in that app, they can see just how much better it is. But yeah, I ended up getting a M1 Max and it works great for my needs / price point. What computer are you rocking?
Go for iPhone! Great honest video!
I'm so torn! My wife has an iPhone and loves it. I'm still so invested in the Google/Android ecosystem I don't know what to do. I know it'd be a good safe buy but I'm a little scared. Plus they ain't cheap!
How's m3 macbook pro
With 18gb unified memory for
4k editing 10bit video?
Is it good or will have some issues?
It was fine. I think the extra money for 36 gigs is worth doing.
Since I was chasing the smoothest video editing possible I coughed up the extra dough for the max chips. They do feel even smoother but I do think the M3 Pro with 36 Ram is good for most!
After watching you go back and forth from the M3 Pro MacBook Pro in this video to an M3 Max and finally(?) to the M1 Max I decided that your misery needs company. I traded in my M1 Pro MBP 14 for the base M3 Pro MBP 14 which should arrive in a couple of days. I'm telling my wife it's your fault. 🤣
Bwahahah!! 🤣 The efficiency of the m3 chips are crazy. You'll love it. Was the m1 still working fine for you? It'll be interesting to hear how much of an upgrade it is for you. Exciting. Keep me posted!
@@thesahdstudio The M1 was working fine. I decided to simplify my setup by trading in the MBP and selling my desktop so I could have just one device with plenty of power but still have the portability.
@@bryans8656 Oh I get it. Well enjoy my man! I'm a little jelly. I miss that m3 efficiency.
Bro 18GB is sufficient for 4k videos editing in da Vinci for m3 pro 512GB please reply?
Yeah it's sufficient for sure! It's not as good as the Max chip of course for smooth playback, and depending if you start making more complicated timelines you might want more RAM. But, if you're just slightly trimming 4K videos on a timeline without adding effects or layers it'll be awesome and have an amazing battery!!
@@thesahdstudio ummm I'll use to edit 4k video but while exporting I set as 1080p coz I shoot on iphone andd i think it will work good as possible and my work is really different like professional edit not only cuts many more stuff in fusion and effect text many more my budget sucks so that im going with m3 pro 18GB
@neevvvvv yeah I hear you. It'll be good. For what it's worth I had the M3 Pro but I ended up returning it and buying an M1 Max because I use it primarily for editing videos and the M1 Max is better in my opinion because of the extra video encoders
@@thesahdstudio let's see bro how it will goes with m3 pro. It's coming today😁
@@neevvvvv NICE!! Did you get it?! Ohh baby. Let us know what you think once you've had a chance to play around. 👊
While editing here is it da Vinci resolve studio or free version..?
Good question. I use the Studio version. Though the free version is just fantastic. It's crazy how good it is.
@thesahdstudio but did you know the studio version allows the encoders decoders to work and the free version doesn't?
@@Charles-qw4hv Yeah. It definitely is nice to have the extra horsepower when working with 4k files, especially the compressed ones. But it still edits quite well without... it depends on your computer of course.
How is the M3 pro with motion graphics in the fusion tab?
I didn't tinker with it too much in Fusion to be honest so I can't really offer a firm stance on it. I will say that the lack of graphics cards in the MacBooks made me slightly disappointed with using VFX etc... but it made up for it with the rest of the video editing experience. It was usable.
@@thesahdstudio aah thnx anyway
Oh he got the pro max. I was confused for a second
Well right now I have the MacBook Pro 16" with 18gb of ram and 512 hd. It's a great machine but I am going to return it because I ordered the Max with 32gb of ram. That won't arrive until closer to Christmas.
Exciting times! It's a huge change. Wondering if I should switch phones too. Yikes!
There’s no going back once you bite the forbidden Apple.
It's good stuff! This summer's Snapdragon laptops will be interesting... finally some decent competition! If they start making them with decent video cards that will be really interesting. But yeah the Apple stuff just works.
Hey man is MBP m3 pro with 18gb ram sufficient for video editing and programming
Yeah I think it's a solid machine for basic video editing for sure. I wouldn't buy it myself as I'd want at least 32gb of ram but if it's all you can afford it'll still be a pleasure to use. If you see in the video where I compare the M3 pro to the M3 max you can start to see where it slows down.
@@thesahdstudio I am a student and I can only afford m3 pro with 18gb of ram. Are there any other laptops you suggest for video editing, programming and some basic blender work. Great Content 👍
@@threadsvio Thanks man! Honestly, if you can find a deal on the older m1/m2's like I did, I would nudge you in that direction to save some money. I ended up with an M1 Max 16" with 32 gigs of ram... it was almost $1,000 cheaper (CAD) and it performs much better for video editing do to the extra encoders. But video editing is important to me so that is a big deal. You can find used ones WITH AppleCare and that makes it a safe buy since it's linked to the serial number. I would also encourage you to check Apples refurbed models on their website too. You might save enough money to buy a set of Apple Max headphones and you wouldn't even notice a difference with performance. Just saying!
@@thesahdstudio In India there's no refurbished section on apple website and m3 cost around $2300 with student discount. M2 pro with 16 GB of ram and 1tb ssd costs around $2500.
@@thesahdstudiom1 Max with 32 gb of ram and 1tb ssd cost around $3600 (16 in)
Is 512gb enough storage tho ?
It really isn't for video editing... though I can't say for other things (3d, photography etc).
Would external SSD help in that case.. I’m talking about the m3 pro mid range chip.. not the normal M3
@@Digging-life From what I hear, yes... you can make externals work well and you can even use Smart Rendering on them also which would be sweet.
Are those prices in Canadian dollars
Yes thank you pointing it out! Usually I try and remember to convert it in the video but I've got a lot going on. Crazy expensive either way for the high end models!
nice
Got my Max yesterday and compared them all day today... the plot thickens!
I am going to have my first Mac but I am in between pro and max. Will go to M3 Max probably. What do you guys suggest. I will do lots of edits and creative work. Thanks people
Ok, as someone who has owned the M3 Pro and the M3 Max I can say the Pro is just awesome... to be completely honest, right now I am shopping around on the Apple site for refurbished M2's because I think they are probably more than enough for what I do (4k video editing).
I would say whatever you get, as long as you have 32gb+ ram and ideally 1tb hdd, any of them will absolutely shred for you. Is it nice to have more than you need? Always. Do you actually need that? Probably not.
You could get a M2 Max refurb AND buy a watch AND headphones for the price of the M3 Max. Just sayin'!
Please can you help a beginner here. I am yoga teacher. I use one setup (frame), one video, 40 min or so, fade in, fade out, little colout grading (brightness mostly) and ad some music in a background an background noise reduction. I normally have 1080p videos but considering going to 2k or maybe 4k in a future.
How long does the export on this video lasts?
This is important because I have yoga centar in Croatia and on top of my 20+ videos a month of editing, I have 30 more from my yoga teachers. So I need to have quick export. My edit lasts for about 10 min TOPS because I don't have much to do and it's all simple and automatic, but I have a lot of videos to process.
Thank you very much for your help. I want Macbook Air, but I am not sure 16gb, 512 ssd M2 15'' will be fast enough. I edit in CapCut.
Here is an example:
th-cam.com/video/3vcofTIOQ0E/w-d-xo.html
What are you editing on now and how long does it take?
The Air should work fine for you but it's not really built for video editing. You'll want fans on there especially for quick exports, and that's where the MacBook Pro's really shine. I mean honestly you should probably do what I did and get yourself a M1 Max. The Max have extra video encoders on the CPU and absolutely shred through video editing.
As far as how long it takes, I mean it's minutes... and that's me editing 15 minute 4k videos with h.265 compression which are the hardest to work on. If you're doing 1080p it'll just blast through that very fast... I can't say how long exactly because I don't know, but it will be fast.
While the Air can do it, I wouldn't recommend it. I'd recommend at LEAST a MacBook Pro... and honestly, if video editing is your main thing and you make money off it, do yourself a favour and get the Max. I wanted to save money and bought a used one and am extremely happy with it. Hope this helps!
@@thesahdstudio thank you very much!!!
I am editing now on this windows laptop and it takes me under 5 min for my videos:
MD Ryzen 5 5600H with Radeon Graphics 3.30 GHz
16.0 GB RAM
Windows 11 Pro
I have old and used Macbook pro 2017, intel i5, 8 gb 256 disc and it takes me little over 12 min for the same video.
Great Video. Honestly the reason your videos are getting bogged down is because the M3 chips memory bandwith has been decreased from 200 GBs with the M2 Pro to 150 GBS. The M3 chip only has 100GBs I believe. For reference see the following video. He dives right into it.
th-cam.com/video/Fv78mPxRp9A/w-d-xo.htmlsi=dYzVDuJnWWvLG3qx
Thanks! And yeah I've heard about that. I know from future experimenting that the Max chips have double the media engines on them so I wasn't sure if that was the biggest reason why the Max MacBooks were so much better or if it was this. The laptop was great otherwise!
Always apple for editting, for years and years...
Yeah I can see why! The ONLY reason I could see using a Windows machine for editing would maybe be if you do a lot of graphics, masking, 3d work etc that would benefit from a video card. Otherwise, the editing on the Mac has been just amazing. I love it.
For 3000 bucks i can upgrade a hp Fury g10 i7-13700hx laptop with 128 GB RAM and 12TB ssd storage. That is future proof 🙂
Yeah that sounds beefy indeed! Wonder how long the battery would last!?
@@thesahdstudio unplugged MacBook Pro ist unbeatable. 😉
@@creator1a66 Did you mean IS or ISN'T unbeatable? lol
Because the battery life will be very hard to beat. Those new Snapdragon laptops though are looking interesting!
I am most definitely not working with you if I step into your coloring bay and I see a PC.
Heh. Not even if the results were incredible?!
Some of the best colorists I ever worked with had pcs
Omg..nobydy use 512 anymore…ur room is so nice to be an editor with 512G 😂 hahahha… u should be using at least 2T witnh that room aesthetic…i tot at first ur a bad ass video editor because of ur room design…now ur asking if 512G is enough?! U must be kidding…only grade school students are using 512 now
When I bought the computer it was the only one available right away (just released)... I knew I would be returning it so thought it would still be interesting to use it and see how it handles video editing etc... I then bought the M3 Max with 1tb hard drive and 48g ram. I eventually returned that then got the M1 Max with 32gb ram and a 1tb hdd which I use now. It is perfect for my work flow, and I have a NAS with 6tb if I need to store anything as I delete everything as I go so 1tb is enough for now. I will likely sell this one in a year or so when the newer/smaller cpus are released.
Using a Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra + Mac and I won't switch to the iPhone. The Mac and the iWatch (don't have it) is great but I won't switch. The S23 is too good.
Yeah that Ultra is really nice. I'm rocking the S21 which is fine. I'd like my phone and computer to work a little more harmoniously but with what I do it's good enough for now. I wouldn't hate to try the iPhone Pro Max though :) Too bad it's like 2 grand.